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Welcome to Season 5 of SNMA Presents: The Lounge!
We are kicking off our Run The List programming with discussions surrounding all things Election Season 2024 (Trump getting shot, Biden dropping out, etc.), the value of black women in professional settings and beyond, Nigerian celebrity wedding opulence, Hurricane Beryl, and more!
We also introduce one of our newest hosts of SNMA Presents: The Lounge, Student Dr. Samiza Palmer! We are so excited for her to be joining in on the upcoming conversations that we will have for listeners this season.
Stay tuned for additional programming that we will be releasing soon here on The Lounge!
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To share your thoughts on our discussions or if you have any questions to ask our hosts, email podcast@snma.org for a chance to be featured on the show!
Disclaimer: The opinions and views expressed on our podcast do not reflect the official stance of the Student National Medical Association.
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Vote ER Competition and Podcast Introduction
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From September to election day, join in for a healthy competition where you, healthcare care students are equipped with free, nonpartisan, vote ER tools, resources, and coaches. Teams earn points and climb up the national leaderboard by encouraging peers and patients to register and turn out to vote. Whatever type of healthcare care student you are, medical, nursing, social work, pharmacy, community health workers, public health, dental, et cetera, you are best positioned to empower your community members to register to vote. To join the movement, click the link in the description box below and reach out to students at vote dash-er r dot.org for any other questions you may have. Now, let's start the show.
00:00:58
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Hi, everybody. Welcome to SNMA Presents, The Lounge. Whether you're in the student lounge, doctor's lounge, or lounging around home, get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversations on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of health care. Now, without further ado, I know you guys are hearing a new voice today. My name is student doctor Semiza Palmer, and I'm happy to introduce myself as one of the new hosts of SNMA Presents the Lounge podcast. Now, to start us all off, we're currently in July, which is a month of first for a lot of different stages in medicine. Residency, classes start up again.
00:01:36
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Rotations kick back up for those third years out there. So I want to ask everybody, what is something that you guys are all doing for the first time this month? I mean, I can start off. So as we all just said, um it is a month of first. um I actually started my sub by a little bit before July, um but I'm here in Seattle right now. So one of the first things that I did for this month is actually like going outside more and hiking and stuff. They're really into that here. So that's something I did for the first time this month. So
Hosts' July Experiences
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yeah, what have you guys been doing? Not bad. Not bad. Well, welcome, Samisa. So great to have you on the lounge podcast. um Thank you. Thank you. Of course.
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um Hopefully you guys recognize my voice. I am student Dr. Isabella. And to answer the question, the first thing first, ah first time of doing something this month in July. um So I actually similar to you was on an away rotation in D.C. and I just finished my last shift yesterday. But in terms of something I did for the first time, um I would say honestly just like going to so I did go to like the museums when I was in DC at Howard, but I never really like took the time to like really try to explore it on my own. So I just like did some museum hopping like last week and I got to really like get to see like the National Museum.
00:03:02
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sorry, the national monuments as well. And I like went back to the National African American Museum. um And I just really like just took the time to explore. I've never like, usually when I i went, I went with other people with this time, I just like went by myself and I really just enjoyed that like alone time it was on a Sunday and there was a lot of people in the museums that Sunday but yeah that was like really nice to just kind of like soak in the city and also like most of my stomping grounds was like Shaw DC so going to that area of DC was different so it was just kind of nice to have that that experience but yeah what about DMV
00:03:34
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period. Okay. By God's grace, fingers crossed y'all. Y'all see me here next year for training. Okay. Okay. Okay. I like that. I like that.
Student Dr. Jared Jeffrey's Exam Prep
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What's going on everybody. My name is aspiring student, Dr. Jared Jeffrey. And as for something that I'm doing for the first time in this month, I'll say, um, for the first time I'm studying for a licensure exam. I actually just got completely degree conferred for my masters. The masters allows me to be able to register for the exam. And you know, it's one of those things where like I've been studying all throughout the the last semester of my program and they kind of tell us all throughout our rotations. Hey, the sooner you finish, like as soon as you can, just register to get the exam out the way. It is a pretty difficult exam, but they're also like, yeah, if you've been studying long enough,
00:04:23
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Just knock it out. You'll be okay. You don't want to start losing the information that you were learning because you tried to wait too long and stuff like that. And you get a couple tries to take it. So nothing too crazy. Right before I started rotations, I was studying for step two. So I get that struggle. It's not cute. It's not fun, but you got it. Absolutely. Absolutely. I appreciate y'all. I appreciate y
'Run the List' Segment on Current Events
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'all. a So we're gonna move into everybody's favorite section of the show. Run the list. For our pre-clinical students, running the patient list on awards allows the team to adjust pressing matters of the day. In this segment of the show, we'll be discussing some recent events in medicine and beyond affecting our communities and the populations that we serve. So y'all already know what it is. Y'all already know what it is.
Trump Assassination Attempt Discussion
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They tried to bring back the 1900s.
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there Was an assassination attempt on former president Donald Trump o on works buto not john crazy and all they were like ah So in case for whatever reason you don't know ah Trump was at a rally in Pennsylvania He is on the campaign trail as he is trying to regain the presidency. He is currently be Republican ah nomination and And a young man made an attempt on his life. I think he fired about eight shots at the ah the republic at the um Republican nominee.
00:05:58
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And the Secret Service stepped in because you know the Secret Service does follow all former presidents. They stepped in. They got him down. After they subdued the shooter, they made sure to get Trump out of there. And Trump being the well-media trained man that he is, made sure that he got one of the most iconic photos of this year on his way out of his assassination attempt. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie. That picture was hard. No, please do not. Jared. I have to give unbiased journalism. Isabella, that picture was hard. That picture was hard. What now? Do you think it was planned? Do you think that picture was planned? Because I'm just like, why all that?
00:06:39
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So I don't think it was planned and I'll tell you why I Watched the arm. I watched the video mad times. I watched the video man. It's all anybody I work could talk about I watched the video and to me it looks like when the first set of shots popped off Trump got down like he from the hood he did not get delicate a seventy seven year old man trump down um like he oh oh don what I think that he had a perspective where he could see whatever the secret server is doing what they needed to do right And he saw in my opinion. I think he saw When they subdued the shooter and he kind of you don't suspect it like oh, I'm good now You know, it's the secret service protocol to still get him up out of there, but he was like a word the threat is gone Real quick. I'm a you know
00:07:28
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Just because and you know, I think it's just off the fact that like he got his start on like remember way back when Trump is a reality TV star first like one say like Yeah, man, I think my boy knows what to do to drive ratings he knows what to do to make himself look good right know You know what's so crazy, though? Oh, sorry. I was just going to add, there's a video of, I don't know if y'all remember this, but like the shoe incident with George Bush, where the guy like threw shoes at him, and he ducked too. yeah And there's a point where they like the Secret Service like tried to get him, and he was like, it's all right. And you could see him saying that. I think he was just trying to go back to his roots. like Clearly, they got some sort of training in the Republican Party.
00:08:10
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that they're like, you know, people might come at you. and You need a dud. And then you need to make a moment on TV. oh like that So what I'm hearing is that we think this is real. This is not a conspiracy. um We think that this man really was shot.
00:08:26
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I think he was definitely shot at. um but at okay I think was definitely shot at. I mean, I think you have to like look at the articles too where they're talking about, you know, the shooter and there's like ah some discrepancies. Some people are like, Oh, he's a really good shot. Some people are like, he's a horrible shot. And he didn't even make the rifle club. So I think there's a lot of like murkiness around the shooter himself. But I don't think you I don't think you can have the reaction that Jared is talking about and that we all saw if it's not even slightly real. like There was some threat that he thought he was going to encounter that was real, right? um Now, the aftermath of that and like everything that happens afterwards, I think that's a little bit different. like How you sensationalize and how you report on it, like that's different. that I think maybe we have some discussion there, but I do think the threat itself is real.
00:09:20
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And I do think it is important to state that, um, there were people that were actually killed at this, um, at this incident. Uh, one person was Corey comparator, a 50 year old firefighter and father of two and father of two was killed. Two others, David Dutch, age 57, and James Kalp and haver age 74 were injured. So, you know, it it's, it's, it's those kinds of little facts that were like, Hmm. yeah I think a publicity stunt ends with less casualties. You know what I'm saying? So I wouldn't I wouldn't call it a publicity stunt. I just think that. Damn, I never see nobody turn an attempt on their life into a good media moment like that was absolutely insane. So also condemn all all acts of violence on
Secret Service Protocol Examination
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this podcast by the by the way.
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But I'm just like, how did this happen? There was security like the Secret Service, the the highest level of security in the nation. How does that even come to to be possible? So I was looking into the secret says the Secret Service protocols just a little bit, right? um I think the facts. Yeah, just a little bit, just a little bit. um because there hadn't been anything like this at any ah rallies or anything like that in the past 10 years, they're allowed to use a slightly lower level of a, of a, I'll say a warning or whatever. Yeah. So, so if you can imagine the subsequent, uh, the subsequent rally that Trump was at super heightened security,
00:11:06
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They were allowed to use a lesser level of security because there had been low level threats and things like that. Also, the Secret Service has their own protocol where, oh, the president's going somewhere. They kind of do a sweep of the area. They secure a perimeter and then they let people in. I think the situation with this one was just, this is an area where open carry is legal. Um, people are probably allowed to bring their guns with them to, to, to rallies. It's just the fact that this individual became aggressive with his in a place where there are, you know, people present. Um, it's also the fact that, uh, even if they are like, you know, they have like snipers or whatever stationed above, I heard that they are not allowed to engage prior to someone else. And like, so someone else like engaging or whatever the case may be.
00:11:56
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Mm, interesting. OK.
Biden's Debate Performance and Resignation
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This event just changed so much when it comes to the state of our nation and just like the trajectory of this this race. um the Him raising his fist and saying fight, like I'm like, you know what? It's getting too scandalous for me. It's getting too scandalous. And then on top of that, I'm just like, we know that people who have experienced assassination in the past have had higher approval of candidate, like have had higher approval from the public. So um it makes me think like, what? Like, do we think that this is going to push Trump over the edge and when it winning the presidency um or do we think this is just something that people are now going to just brushers brush aside?
00:12:48
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So I'll say it it definitely did positively impact his numbers. oh It positively imp impacted his numbers because you can combine a story of resiliency, right? With an iconic picture like the one he had. Yeah. Oh, the media, the media, the media has no choice but to run with it. You know what I'm saying? They had no choice but to plaster that picture everywhere. I'm sure it was on newspapers. I haven't seen a newspaper in a while. I'm sure it was everywhere. ah I think he'll experience a positive impact, but it won't be something that lasts directly to the election. Right.
00:13:25
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Well, I think so too. seisa Okay. Well, I think that that means that, uh, let's just hope and see where this kid is candidacy goes for Trump, because, um, we saw from the debate, you know, between Trump and Biden that things were looking a little bit shaky, at least when it comes to team Democrat, uh, you know, they are, I described them both to be elderly folk. Um, yes, Biden is 81 it nicely. Okay. and Oh, OD nice. Oh, you know, I'm trying my best to try my best to make this a, uh, meet not to, we're not ages. We're not ages. like The podcast is not an ages platform. So they are of the older age. Yep. And so that being said, um, literally they are.
00:14:19
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even older than Reagan, um where the most recent in terms of being the eldest was Reagan at 69 and then leaving at 77. So they are a bit older than what we're used to. They had this debate. um It was held in Atlanta June 27th. And a lot of people notice Biden's kind of poor performance um when he was talking and giving his responses during this debate. It sounded like maybe forgetfulness, dementia-like you know, presentation. um And so multiple elected official, according to NBC News, like ah multiple elected officials and political advisors, like honestly suggested that he should just end his reelection bid. um Yeah, what do you guys kind of think about what was causing Biden to be appearing a bit on the senile spectrum?
00:15:14
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I mean, I think in terms of Joe Biden, right? Like he's had an incredibly long political career, right? Like some way beyond like when either of us were here, this man has tried to be president like several times, yeah served in Senate for a long time. Like I think in general, like his initial election, like people are just like, okay, this is a man who served the country a lot. Like we need to throw him a bone and he needs to win. With this second race, I think it's become clearer that, okay, we kind of let that happen the first time. We didn't really have nobody else, but it's becoming too evident that he's a little bit too old to handle this position.
00:15:59
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And that's not to say all of us don't love Uncle Joe, you know, or like at least like him. yeah um He's been helpful in this transition period. But I think it just became clear to not only to younger voters who had who have known this for a long time, but older, more seasoned Democrats are like, oh, Yep. OK, we kind of see what they talk about. This is a little bit too much. So I think the debate really was like this. I wrote the camera. Oh, OK. Like we thought it is. Yeah, far. I hear
Kamala Harris's Campaign and Support
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you. I hear you. and And so, yeah, I think that it's really tough. Like, like I said, you know, media training is something that's, you know, really going to be helpful in this situation.
00:16:49
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to to be able to do that at a time where the most cameras are pointed at you, where everyone's looking something that's kind of like supposed to be one of those defined like pre-election moments. Yeah. You know, like ah they say with athletes all the time when the lights is on, it's time to shine. OK. Yeah. my My boy did not, you know, then I shot to his most optimal and here's a little dull. it just it wasn't giving oh you for me it wasn't go be shoty it was giving lackluster I hear you. I was just a little bit and so I think it was um it was also ah a matter of.
00:17:29
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Not only like the Democrats themselves, but the Democratic contributors, like a lot of their largest like campaign donors, you know, there are people that consistently just don't eat Democrat. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Some of the largest ones were awesome. Yo, this is this is not a good look. this I'm going to I'm going to I'm going to hold my donation if. We don't, we don't get somebody, somebody in here to replace. You know what I'm saying? Because I can't throw 80 million behind this. This is like a clear, like picked the other guy. You know what I'm saying? Um, and I think we just like, I think if we put it in perspective, it's just like not to be ageist, but if you were me or at our job and there is an individual who is up there in age and their age, just the, it seems to be impacting the performance at work.
00:18:19
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they would kindly be offered the opportunity to resign from the position. You know what I'm saying? And so I think that he made a really good, ah you know. are we We jump in, we jump in the gun. Cause what did, what did Biden decide to do? Honestly, I mean, after hearing all these senile comments and you're not looking too sharp there, Joe, um you know, he he decided to focus on what's on his plate. Oh, okay. I like that. I like that. Okay.
00:18:51
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ah That's, that's a really, a really great layup. Uh, because literally July 21st, which was two days ago, Biden officially announced his resignation from the presidential race. He posted on his Twitter account slash X account. My fellow Democrats, I have decided not to accept the nomination and to focus all my energies on my duties as president for the remainder of my term. My very first decision as the party nominee in 2020 was to pick Kamala Harris as my vice president and it's been the best decision I've made. Today I want to offer my full support and endorsement for Kamala to be the nominee of our party this year. Democrats, it's time to come together and beat Trump
00:19:32
Speaker
Let's do this. Guys, we're living in history. yeah The funniest way that I heard about this news. OK, so I'm Sierra Leonean, right? My mom literally lives in Sierra Leone. Why did this lady tell me about that first before I heard about it in America? that said i no type but we sierra leone before even okay we love that I don't know what type of direct line you got to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue, Eliza, but that's crazy. But that was insane. I was on a nature walk. I said, Oh, okay. Well,
00:20:06
Speaker
Oh, you really committed to them nature walks. I see you, Seattle. OK. Yeah. Come on. ah Come on. arbitrory the air We love it. Yeah. Yeah. We was looking at the red or red at the redwoods and everything. The red. Yeah. July 21st. That was a Sunday. Yeah, i I had a busy day that day, but I remember somebody dropped in the group chat around 1 p.m. And it was from like, you know, a less than reputable page. I looked too much into it. But man, I'll say about two hours later or the other pages followed up. And I was like.
00:20:39
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this is appropriate this this really fits you know what i'm saying this this really this is wild this is it no no no no no this is a graceful bow out i appreciate you you know i'm saying because politics a lot of times could be a very prideful place right it could be a place where people is always awesome Nah, don't worry. I got it. Oh, like, you know, you don't want to give up the the power, especially the most powerful seat in the world. Like right you don't want cook you want to give that up. You feel me? Um, but I think it's also like, you know, worth acknowledging. Yeah. We got a black woman running for president. Y'all. Okay. that's off scene know For me. Come on. now
Challenges for Black Women in Medicine
00:21:23
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this This is, this is where Isabella announces where she went to college.
00:21:27
Speaker
Oh, okay. So we jump in the gun. All right. Howard. So if ah Howard grad because president of the United States, that degree price will be. Astronautically high. All right, you're gonna have to be on a waiting list to get it to Howard. Okay I just need everybody to be to make me clear be clear like our price is already here But the price is about to go like times 10 from where you see my hand. Yep is going up Yes price is not today's price Y'all are silly obviously, okay, but I want to ask you on a serious note so
00:22:07
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What do y'all think of, so we know what we think, right? We know what everybody that follows the Shade Room thinks. What do y'all think a greater America at large will accept of a black, and I believe she's Southeast Asian woman as president. Let's say she were to win. What do y'all think? I was gonna say, I'll go ahead. Okay. Well, I was really just going to quickly say that, um, if you're asking from a personal opinion, I think that people's dislike for Trump outweighs anything that who she is. And I think that Biden support will foster that. But I also want to tap into the numbers and like talk about all of the milestones she's already had since this numbers. Yeah. it means So, so according to act blue,
00:22:58
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grassroots supporters have actually raised $46.7 million. ah dollars And this was this was yesterday, right? Through through ActBlue following vps VP Kamala Harris's campaign launch. This was actually been the biggest fundraising day of the 2024 cycle. Small dollar dollar donors donors are fired up and ready to take on this election. And According to pop base shortly after it was actually found out that over 24 hours, she was able to set a record of raising $81 million dollars for her campaign since Biden dropped out and has officially secured the required delegates to become the democratic nominee for president. So we know that. ah all data Yep. Yep.
00:23:34
Speaker
time has not been a fact of her. She's already climbed up like 10 steps in the past 24 hours. So I think that speaks volumes. So I would say I think she has a fair chance of winning and let's not even get into the endorsements, how people have endorsed her on social media. Beyonce's mom, AOC, Nancy Pelosi, the Clintons, MLK the third, Ariana Grande, Nissi Nash, like The list goes on and on. So I think she has a very fair chance of getting that seat, but to me, so I don't know what you think. What's what's your thoughts?
00:24:09
Speaker
I'm hopeful. And like I said, that's my soror. So I obviously want her to win. um And I pray and hope that all of the ah endorsements and the campaign funds are sort of indicative of people's changing um like attitudes towards her as a as a presidential candidate. I only worry because I was alive and well and voting in 2016. yeah And I remember that 53% not voting for somebody that looks like them and that is them, right? And Kamala not only
00:24:52
Speaker
um is you know obviously generally seen as like a black woman, probably first and foremost, but she's also mixed race and she's not necessarily mixed with Caucasian. She's, like we said, Southeast Asian. And I think sort of having that background while she's obviously been able to reach the pinnacle of the vice presidential office. I think it just scares me a little bit and I'm a little wary, but you think I'm not gonna be out of the polls. That's a different story. i am I am going to, and I'm going to try to encourage other people too. I guess I'm just a little bit wary about 2016. And I remember what it was
Male Birth Control Options
00:25:29
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like when we had our first major female presidential candidate and sort of where it went.
00:25:34
Speaker
o That's a very, very fair statement. And you know, I will say though, right, the optimism, we would like the optimisic optimism to be there. Of course, you know that we have, there's people who clearly want Kamala to get that ticket and be president, but we got the haters. Of course, Trump is going to be Biden's number one hater. This man came out with a whole statement about, you know, yeah, he he saw this coming. i mean Yeah, I call him crooked like I could read his statement, but like honestly he doesn't even deserve that air time So I will say that he just he you just had the not he just had you know a lot of nonsense to say and then so a wins Who just likes to pop out from the blue wants to give her unsolicited advice on her week YouTube channel? I'm saying that Kamala slept her way to the top and I'm just like girl. Why do you can assault? Can't always kills me Candace Owens kills me Like what is going on?
00:26:30
Speaker
I don't, I truly don't understand. So yeah, I don't know. Um, I think given all of this sentiments and people's opinions, the number one thing we need to think about is how do we mobilize our votes and get Kamala into office? That's the bottom line of the whole thing. Um, because like you were saying to me, so like Kamala wears all these hats. She has all these identities. And we know, especially as a black woman, right? That's not an identity that's what's favored me upon. It's not. And really, when you think about it, who really advocates for black women the most in this society? Like who who does it for us? um So there has been some calm there were some conversations surrounding TikTok, I guess, about a black woman who I don't really remember the full scope of the conversation, but it kind of spurred like topics of who is advocating for black women because it doesn't seem like black men or even other
00:27:27
Speaker
black women are really there for us and that we have to kind of seek support elsewhere, especially when it comes to a professional setting where white people, particularly white men, seem to be the ones that hold the reins and how you know give us give people access. And so it then comes to this point where black women have to be the one to lead into white men for support. and so Interesting. you know I want to talk about it from the concept though of black women in medicine. um We make up such a small amount. like Literally, black Americans were 13% of this US population, but only make up 5.4% of the physician workforce, and then black women make up 2.8% of that. so It's very, very small.
00:28:09
Speaker
and so It makes me wonder, like what what is causing us to not really have that support from other Black mentors? Is it because they're so overburdened with their current scheduling? Because we know that a lot of them have so many responsibilities when it comes to just like if they're in an academic space. Some of them are like serving DEI. They're trying to recruit Black students into the institution. They're trying to like
Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar Feud
00:28:31
Speaker
you know help Black people come into the fold, but also like handled their own responsibilities. And so like, I guess I'm wondering from like, or I want to ask you guys, like, what do you think needs to change in order for black women to feel or have more support in the space, like in professional spaces, particularly when it comes to medicine?
00:28:55
Speaker
Simis, I'll give you the floor first, if you like. Yeah, no, that's fine. um It's a very interesting question. This is a question that like I've been thinking about since I stepped into medical school. um and So just a little bit of background about me. I did a linkage program at Drexel. So I've known my current cohort now for about four years, and we're going on our last year of fifth. And I think it's always been very interesting to me that our main black faculty advisor is a man. And you know they've had the discussion about black men in medicine and things of that nature, but there there hasn't necessarily been a...
00:29:33
Speaker
a counterpart for the black women in medicine. And I think maybe like towards my last year, our one other black female faculty advisor person was like, you know what? We need to have something. We need to talk about it. But
Nigerian Wedding Season
00:29:48
Speaker
I think in terms of the question, ah is it current scheduling? Is it like they're being overburdened? Yes. If you have those two main people supposed to that are supposed to be heralding the next generation of black physicians and it's only two of them for maybe what like Over 40 kids like of course they can't reach all of us, right? Of course if they try to get into other positions of power to personally uplift themselves It'll be difficult for them to reach all of us individually. They cannot possibly or physically Like know what is going on everybody's life, right? Yeah, and so it becomes this
00:30:25
Speaker
self-fulfilling prophecy of you have the one or two black faces that are in administration, you have them supposed to be in charge of multiple um other students of color and then obviously they're going to fill them or not uphold everything that they're supposed to and then the students feel disconnected so from them and it just repeats this never-ending cycle. um So and in terms of how to change it, I think the only way you can change it is if you know we, as you know burgeoning physicians of color, burgeoning health professionals of color,
00:31:02
Speaker
are successful and make it into these spaces, whether or not it is at the hands of a mentor that looks like us. And then we sort of become the change that we want to see, you know what I'm saying? So obviously, I may not have had a mentor in that particular way, but you have to find your person that is going to go to bat for you, whether or not they look like you, whether or not they talk like you are from the same spot. But you need to make sure that they're for you and for your success. And then when you get there, you make the changes that you need to make so that you can see you can be that person that wasn't there for you. And I think the only thing that will change it is time, honestly. ah I ah really like that answer. um I want to throw in ah piggyback on it a little bit and throw in the idea that like the experience of the black woman is so unique because
00:31:58
Speaker
everybody and even black men can sometimes overlook what's truly happening in like a micro aggressive situation. um I think that
Hurricane Beryl's Impact
00:32:10
Speaker
it's more likely that they're directed towards a black woman towards a black man in a professional than a black man in a professional space. all yeah Just because, and I'm gonna pick my words wisely here. I feel like as a professional society, we have moved away from looking at race as much of a proponent of how we interact in the workplace. However, we have not removed um sex from how we interact with one another in the workplace. So with that, I'd like to bring up this ah this one article that I saw from MedPage today. It was about the 2021 Black Women in Medicine Conference that was held in Boston, right?
00:32:50
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And they had a panel and a bunch of the panel were talking, it was physicians, academics, and other leaders of professional organizations, mostly women of color. And they brought up, they the conversation was about the cumulative effect of microaggressions and a lack of follow through and inclusive to inclusivity and equity efforts put forward by institutions and being overqualified for positions were being told they needed more experience. And one woman went on to quote,
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I have five degrees. I've done two residencies. I've done two fellowships and I'll still get a notification saying, well, we don't really know if you have the knowledge or the expertise. And this was said by Fatima Cody, Stanford MD and MPH of Massachusetts general hospital during one of those panels. And you're like, well, what else do you want? Do you want 20 degrees? Do you want 20 residencies now? And I think it's one of those things where.
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Black women don't go into rooms boastfully, right? They're not going to go into rooms trying to prove that they're the smartest in the room. They've done the work. They kind of are.
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And I. In a scenario where you've done the work, you kind of want to let your work procedure rather than going and trying to prove yourself. And these professional settings are still going to try to challenge you. They're still going to try to nitpick and they're still going to try to. Oh, well, I personally haven't seen that you can present expertise on this topic. So why should I believe it? Even though you've done XYZ and it's one of those kinds of situations where.
00:34:28
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um why concertparts don't experience this right right you know what i'm saying oh yeah yeah go for it yeah i think that um it really, I actually think that even in addition to what you've said, it just sounds like what they're essentially saying is that it looks like according to your resident your resume, right? You're missing this experience of just being a white male, right? So you being a black woman has pretty much dampered everything that you've done in your professional career. And yeah, you need to just you need to just go ahead and turn into a white guy. um So like what you're saying, it's like we- Almost everything that we like.
00:35:06
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like i total yeah but yeah You us there, right? And then we looked at you. So it's it's a very tricky position to be in. And I think that, like what you said, we're trying to allow our work to proceed as we're trying to like allow that to be what's being seen and what's being valued. But in the end, all they see is you're not a white guy. And that's very disappointing. um you know change is necessary when it comes to these kinds of topics that we're talking about. Like change is necessary when it comes to how we view black women, whether it's Kamala Harris, whether it's a black woman physician, like we need to figure out how can we do things differently to really get effective
00:35:50
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um I would say, get like effective um support of these people who are really putting their lives and careers um on the line for the benefit of society. And something else that I feel like we haven't really tapped into, at least when it comes from a health perspective, is like what options are we giving when it comes to just women's um bodies and agency for how we look at like family family planning. Um, because we've have like women birth control. That's like some way that women try to take ownership over whether they have kids, when they have kids, but it's always seems to be like the woman is the one that always has to do everything on their own. Like why can't the guys have their own birth control?
00:36:32
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it's It's so funny because I was talking to a friend recently and you know, so I got eczema, right? Like a lot of people got eczema, whatever the case may be. And my friend is in medical school and she actually, you know, she took a look at my, um, what they gave me for my eczema. She was like, Oh yeah. Like, you know, it's a, it's like interesting thing. if, you know,
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this didn't clear you up, they would give you something stronger. And you want to know what's crazy. If you are a woman, that stronger thing that they would give you is like, you know, it could cause potential like birth defects in the child. So if you're of childbearing age, you absolutely have to be on birth control. And I was like, huh? Yeah. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I know. what youre Yeah, they're probably talking about it. But
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It's probably like Tretoin, I think, which is like a vitamin A derivative. I was like. Yeah, it can cause teratogenic effects in children, so you have to. There you go. Oh, you you said that just like she did beautifully. I was like, but you know, once again, you know, sitting here in my on my throne of male privilege. I'm trying to clear my skin up and now I gotta go on birth control. yeah What if I'm not? You do have to go on birth control. You, you and i'm like make Jared, have to go on birth control. You, not us because they now have an option where y'all could go on birth control. It was recently released that male birth control is a thing now.
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But unfortunately, it's not painful the way it is for us. It's not, it's not. Unfortunately, unfortunately, what is it? They're always going easy on men and I'm tired of it. We got IUDs, you know, they don't even pre-medicate women on IUDs anymore. Now you just going straight, whether you're crying, hallucinating. So you guys get some kind of stories. I've heard from friends about IUD placements like, Oh yeah. Like it's kind of just like a little, A little contraction. Are you good? Are you sure? No. I know it's worse. It has to be worse than that because I've literally witnessed women getting IUDs and it's almost like the whole world fell down when they got that thing inserted. So you guys apparently have some kind of gel on your shoulder. That's what the mechanism is. And I'm like, what's going on? A gel? Like it was stuck in the sandwich?
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it sounds like they try to like like you guys feel nice they not even try to
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and da da I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Would you have preferred a shot? Would have you would you have preferred a series of shots? I would have preferred something that's, what would you would you have preferred? Would you have preferred some kind of hormone therapy? Would hormone therapy have like 12 years? So you know how she was saying like, unfortunately, it's a bit painful. but We just want it to equal fortune. You know, eat no there's no option that you guys have read that isn't
00:39:41
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better in most terms than it, than it is for a woman. Like even if you think about vasectomy, it's like a little cute little o slip, s step, fast deferens me out, and go home. Yeah. Meanwhile, a total abdominal hysterectomy and bilateral salpindra. Don't that sound crazy? why this That sounds crazy. You're in the operating operating room. You know, I like this United front. Okay. Two women gets one guy. No, but I mean, like any sort of option for female birth control like has just been the pain level and the and the invasiveness of it is, it pales in comparison to any sort of male fertility option that we've ever had. And I was really about it was like,
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You know, initially, obviously, fertility was in the hands of men. Nobody really thought about, you know, women taking control of birth control until late I would say like 1930s earliest. And then there's just been this heavy shift where all the re responsibility is on us. Right. You know, it's it's I'm glad that you guys are taking some responsibility now with this, but it's just sort of a slap in the face. at like Oh, it's a slap. Even when you guys do it, like it's a lot easier. It's a slap. It very much is. I mean, what'd you think though, Jared? I'll let you talk since you're the guy. What'd you think about this new, this birth control that maybe you can now be trying out rather than telling your girl, Oh yeah. Uh, are you on the pill? Are you, you got an IUD? Now this time she can ask you the tables have turned my friend. So what'd you know? No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm a, I'm a ask him, but baby rub this channel on me.
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You know what? That's cool. You can get the jelly rub. but i the same it Hit the shoulders, baby. Hit the shoulders. yeah but you can cute But at the same time you're at least gonna have to get a little period or active labor simulator things Yes, you'll have to feel good on the shoulders. You're gonna feel it in your midsection as well oh that's crazy ah um I See I see y'all heads is that um, I think that this is revolutionary. Um, I I remember I used to have the same question why only women got birth control in undergrad. And the the reason was always, um it was easier, quote unquote, to control the the one egg of a cycle versus the billions of sperm produced per day or whatever. So like, you know, it's definitely very nice that um they were able to
00:42:19
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to you know level the playing field a bit. I'm sorry that it didn't come with the discomfort that that you guys are looking for. But speaking of discomfort, I think that we should move on to something that has been very uncomfortable for my man, Drake. oh ah yeah I see what you did there. I see what you did there. I feel like gonna I feel like we've managed to incorporate this beef into um maybe the last like three or four episodes at this point. so you know theres many
00:42:52
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We have to keep going. We gotta just keep it going. um The same way my boy Kendrick Lamar kept it going and dropped that Not Like Us movie video. I'm really on with today. I'm really on with you. know You're on it today. I see what, yeah. There's a little shade of massage, too. There's a little shade of massage, too. Um, so, so basically, uh, yeah, Kendrick Lamar drops like the, the not like us music video videos, beastie. Um, I hope you guys have gotten a chance to check it out. It was very nice. Uh, he had a little bit of a artistic direction in there, a couple of dances, all kinds of stuff. My favorite part of the video at the very ending, he does like a little wave in his all white fit that throws a blow middle finger.
00:43:36
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Oh, yeah, I did see that. And the streets, you know, the streets are always going to overanalyze the things that Kendrick Lamar does. He released the song at 4 p.m. Eastern time on July 4th. Drake was supposed to be at some kind of all white party for somebody famous. I don't know where it was that. But at that time, It is like, you know, oh, the video gets played. Kendrick looks like an attendee of that party. And he's like waving and you know that wave is going directly to Drake. This man is not resting.
00:44:16
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He's not. You hear me? You hear me? A foot has never left his neck. It hasn't. And and I think like with this music video release that came out on the fourth, which I do not think was a coincidence. I mean, the man called Drake a whole colonizer. And so it's only fitting, right, that you drop it on colonizers day. um I think that that. Oh, no, you didn't. Oh, my gosh. o o yeah i yeah you okay youre thinking about it right you didn't yep okay keep over my head too
00:44:49
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andt what was like got over there So there were so many like just metaphors that ah Kendra dropped in the music video like he came out He had, um I think I remember him like doing the little hopscotch while he was you know saying the famous A minor joke. um He was hitting a pinata when he was saying like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, okay, you know that part where you start moving your shoulders to the left or the right? you like That's when he was hitting the pinata. i was like It was giving kids, right? So like of course, he like honing in on the aspect of identifying Drake as a P-E-D-O,
00:45:25
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And but I think what the the the knife the the knife and the twist but twisting of the knife was when he brought out Whitney and them damn kids at the end, and they were all, I don't know if they were Krip walking, I don't know if they were J, what whatever they was doing in that video, brought them out at the end after. in southern california Okay after Drake mentioned Whitney and Dave free who he claimed was the father of Kendrick's child So, um, I don't know Kendrick just didn't let up on Drake's neck whatsoever with this video It's almost like he kind of like buried that just buried him like actually put the put the headstone on the grave He just
00:46:06
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Yeah, it this is um this has been a monumental time of hip-hop, but how do you guys think, like this is overall, hopefully this is the last time we're going to talk about this, because we've been talking about this for a while, like you said Jared, like what do you think this has meant and done for hip-hop thus far? This entire like beef, release of Not Like Us, the music video, like what has it done? i Think from the beginning waking up a sleeping giant is great Waking up a asleep. So, you know at the room at the beginning when we were thinking oh who's the best Kendrick J Cole Drake We were all talking man Kendrick don't make enough music to even be in the the discussion not no more
00:46:49
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yeah not no more he came out with them songs back to back to back to back to back yeah and Everybody hushed up all that noise. I think it's also worth noting that dropping the music video Not like us had dropped from the number one position on the charts. It went back to number one like it' It's it's revitalizing it is invigorating I'm still hitting a wop wop wop every time I hear it in a party or something um I was in one spot the other day. I was at Everyday People. Everyday People, they played it three times in a row. I was like, damn. And I bopped every time.
00:47:24
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about the can it there's like a whole new song i Only few songs could do that where it feels new every time you hear it Every time I didn't think it was gonna be the song of the summer I thought Drake was going, you know, do a Drake usually do and drop a little song in the summer Nope, not like us song in the summer 2024. Yep Yeah, I was listening to this old baby keem song with Kendrick Lamar and he was like, yeah Connie changed his life But I'm still old-school Gemini That's the entirety of this entire beef. He's not letting it go. He's not letting it go. And I think if given the chance, if Drake even says pin to anything.
00:48:09
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he's gonna do it you got he got he got said elses in the to i said that with what way be know james po i think much is Keep it very very cute, please and mass You know what keeping a cute but the really the keeping a cute comment is really nice because I feel like Nigerians Niger Niger Bella What are they been keeping it cute? They've been, the what's it called? um ah Nigerian wedding season has commenced and it has been a beautiful thing to witness. And every single wedding I've seen thus far has been keeping it cute, 100%. So we gotta talk about the one. Nigerians have a season for weddings? Put me on.
00:48:56
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So when I say wedding season, I mean that they, the the celeb Nigerian celebrities have been dominating weddings for the past, I will say few weeks now. And so ah okay it's it's been wedding season for us, right? not you gotcha Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. It's giving that, yeah. So, of course, I'm sure majority of y'all know DeVito, the Nigerian singer and his long-term girl, he's the one that made money for you, right? Okay, the one that we bopping our heads to in the club and the only Nigerian song they love to play, overplay it, right? What did you say? I love you all. Yes.
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Okay, so His long-term now his wife but long-term girlfriend, maybe one of many girlfriends, but I'll get to that Chioma has gotten the ring finally, right? She's but she's gotten the ring after a lot of BS is I think the nicest way that I can say this. Um, I thought i thought you was gonna say what holla I Oh, you know, I should have said while all right. Okay,
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okay so y'all know I'm Nigerian American. So of course, this hits a little bit close to home. But um, so basically, they, so they, I'll give the backstory of DeVito and Shoma's romantic journey. So they met at Babcock University in 2013. They didn't become friends until 2015. And since then, they've had an on and off relationship that has been like full of scandals, drama, but of course romance because they are married now. This man has had so many cheating allegations against him, so many outside children while being with her. they Unfortunately, they even lost their own two-year-old son. He drowned in a pool. I believe it was due to negligence. I think the person was supposed to be watching him. They didn't watch him. um They've got their lot together like gone through hell and back, literally, as a couple. and For some reason, Chioma has stayed right by this man's side.
00:50:53
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despite the nonsense and she finally got the ring, right? She got the ring and she got the wedding and it took place June 25th. It was beautiful. um Everything was glamorous. It was really nice to see. um And so that was, I i would say, wedding number one of two beautiful star studded after the wedding. It was very nice. Now Sharon Oja and her Odoku silencer, as I like to call him, I don't know, his name is not relevant in this situation because he's not the veto, right? um But I will say that
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Wow. Wow. It's not relevant. We go call him a dogu silencer because that, that to me is the relevant part is that she just, she came in heavy with this guy saying, yeah, this is the guy. Um, she had this like reveal a couple of months prior saying that she like already did the traditional wedding that she's technically, cause you know, in Nigerian culture, like you, like as, once someone pays the bride price, you're technically married, right? We do the, the wine carrying, at least for EBA, I would say like for most evil culture. or for e-bows. We do wine carrying. I don't know what other tribes do for their traditional wedding, but you do the traditional wedding and then you do the white wedding if you're like Christian. um so Basically, like she did the bride prize, which was only after talking to this man for, I believe it was three months only. She knew this man for three months and so got engaged in March, was wedded by June. um Everyone was happy for her because, of course, Sharon was in her early 30s. Time was ticking. She's a very popular Nollywood actress. um I've watched a lot of her stuff.
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seems like a very sweet woman. um But after they got married, everything cool, cool, cool. We see the man's you know reveal. Apparently he's handsome. They thought that this man was probably like looked like a gargoyle because she didn't show his face in the in the um like preview of like her being engaged. So they're like, oh, we hope this man is cute. Barely he was cute. I saw him and I agree. And they found out later on that this man had been married not once, not twice, not thrice. And had multiple divorces. So people are kind of just like, huh, Sharon, like, did you think this through? Um, is this gonna be okay? Or is this gonna be like a marriage at last? So who knows? Um, but I think the biggest point of all this that I want to ask you guys is like,
00:53:09
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what really is the purpose of marriage anymore? Like I feel like people are marrying and sometimes it seems like people are marrying after going through a lot of nonsense. if People are marrying people who may have really weird pasts. Do you all think that marriage is really still like revered and honored the way that it should be? I'll let you go first Jared. I have thoughts, but I let you go first. Okay. Okay. Um, I think that the idea of romanticism has confused a lot of our society. I think that um people confuse being in love with
00:53:47
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This thing, that means a whole lot to society about forming a union, combining lives, combining finances, combining everything that you do with another individual. And um I think to a degree, they kinda, so I'll put it like this. There's a whole... ah I listen to a lot of other podcasts, you know what I'm saying? um ah You know, I try to grab bits and nuggets out of there to add to my own personal ah repertoire of things that I don't think about and things that I'll use in my dating, and my search for love. And so one one one of the one of the good ones was search for a woman that wants a marriage, not a wedding. And I think that there is a good bit of this society
00:54:36
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They hear for weddings. They not here to for marriage. You know what I'm saying? So um is the institution as revered? I don't think so. I think somewhere along the lines, you know, we lost the teachings from the elders as far as how to be a wife, how to be a husband, how to ensure that we are respect and revere one another and keep a household as one. And I'll leave it there. Samiza, what you got? Yeah, I mean, like I said, I think my thoughts are that we've had changing views of marriage throughout time. Initially we all know it started off as a business transaction. Then it became this commercialized idea that's wrapped up into love and gifts and how we, you know, us like say our love for each other and how we care about one another. And I do agree that I think too many people pay attention to the wedding instead of the marriage.
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But I don't think that absolves, like, personal responsibility in each of these situations that you're talking about. Like, with DeVito, like, your whole child, like, passed away and there was still extramarital affairs. Like, that's insane to me. Right? um The Dogu Silencer, like, I don't know all about what's going on with him, but, yeah like, that just sounds like there's been too little attention paid to the foundational things in a relationship and not enough into the things are going to make you have a stable marriage and partnership throughout the rest of your life. ah But, for percent you know, in terms of talking about all this chaotic stuff and storms that have to do with love, let's talk about a real storm that occurred. Oh, y'all, y'all, y'all, you know what? I'm loving this. I'm really loving this. The hurricane barrel. that happened okay that affected the southwestern United States and the Caribbean.
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um so yeah just you know Just so you guys could know more about it, at least and initially it was a category one hurricane that formed in 2018, the second ah named storm in the first hurricane for that year since tropical storm Alberta. It never really grew to a hurricane But in this year, um it became named again in 2024 and was the second named storm in the first hurricane with the historic distinction of becoming the strongest hurricane to develop in June and and the earliest form category five storm in Atlantic history, according to the convoy of hope.
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um had a significant impact to cause at least 22 deaths in the Houston area and widespread power outages. And after the July storm, it contributed to more than half of those fatalities. So um just want to know, what did you guys hear about Hurricane Beryl? Because I feel like I was like in the middle of studying and rotations and everybody was like, it's a hurricane. And then there were jokes about it from the Caribbean side. So like I like totally was just trying to figure out like what actually happened. yeah Yeah, so um I'm Caribbean American myself. um We always go, you know, hear about something that's going on, like a neighboring island, islands that's not too far away. ah What I heard was it did is it did is big one in the Caribbean, especially Grenada. I heard that Grenada had um
00:57:56
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widespread power outages There was a little bit of flooding and a couple people there was actually like, you know The my I don't know how our parents get the footage they get on whatsapp at all ah that That that needs to be studied in its own like how they circulate things on a level But I even saw footage of like there was one woman literally Holding her home together like her wolf is about to come off. She's she tied some rope around and she's like Oh, no, you don't pulled it back down and she's like pulling it and holding the foundation of her strokes together She's like yo, I'm not going anywhere like like I
00:58:32
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I have to stay here and yeah I have to defend this home because yeah it's it's yeah it's not coming back. um this this this was a This was a big one. This was a was a big one. This was a bad one. yeah and it's really like Unfortunately, actually two members of our podcast team like also had some negative effects of the hurricane. Unfortunately and like, you know, and so I just even like realizing how removed I was from because I was like, oh that like people not everybody on our team even lives like stay on the East Coast people live everywhere. So it's kind of just like there are some people who are going to be affected by it that you know personally and it's been like really sad to see like some of them having to delay exams or having to delay like things they're supposed to be doing because of just not having any power is really disappointing um and it's really been sad to witness um like you guys are alluding to there's been a
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like huge spread power and gas services impact. um Basically, the storm actually resulted in 2.7 million power outages breaking the previous record of 2.1 million set by Hurricane Ike in 2008. And by Thursday, July 11th, more than 1 million center point energy customers mainly in the Houston area in Southeast Texas are still without electricity. um So this is crazy. And um I would say on the flip side, I'm glad that there are some people in power who are actually taking like initiatives and action to help these people who've been affected by Hurricane Beryl. And Meg Thee Stallion, the Houston hottie, created a emergency power program in Houston to provide generators for senior citizens actually affected by the hurricane. So y'all know Meg has a background in um like health administration. She wanted to... Because like after being inspired by her grandma, who um unfortunately passed, um she wanted to create nursing homes like for
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for elderly people. And so I think this is kind of her way of like using her degree and her passions to then be able to donate to this really good cause. And so um we know that these power outages led to some deaths that they attributed to environmental heat exposure, hyperthermia, with outages in air conditioning, fans, and other just temperature regulation means, according to NBC News. And so her creating this like emergency power program is going to be very helpful, especially to the frail and immunocompromised and elderly when it comes to just giving them the ability to survive through this hurricane. But yeah. I think that there is also one more angle to kind of look at this from. Houston has been garnering a lot of attention as a place for young people to move in the past couple of years. They have a lot of new infrastructure, a lot of new jobs, cheaper housing, things of that nature.
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a favorable destination. And I thought that it was really interesting that they were managed. They were able to accommodate so many people in such a small amount of time. And I think that situations like this kind of like lead you to, OK, well, you're accommodating a lot of new citizens. Are you able to withstand emergencies and be able to accommodate to citizens? Right. Like I live in New York. If it's one thing that New York is gonna do New York is gonna take care of you and stuff to go down I remember Hurricane Sandy. They was holding it down anytime the snow drops anything like that like
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New York got emergencies handled. you know So um not to say that Houston doesn't. This could just have been a hurricane of unprecedented proportion. But um it's just something to to think about, you know something to consider. i was i was um I was talking to a friend about that. And he was like, yeah, like you know I'm OK. I recently moved out here. But I know a lot of people who didn't move in and such ideal ah into an ideal situation the way he did, who are like, really? like up a creek right now, no pun intended. And I think it just also speaks to like the interconnectedness of this issue with like the political climate in Texas, right? Like, I i don't know if y'all remember, but when they had that big snowstorm, again, this electrical system that they have, this monopoly, it keeps coming back up. And I think as we, you know, come to terms with the fact that global warming is real yeah sir and their patterns are changing,
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Like you have to make those accommodations. And I think as a state, they're not necessarily ready to hear those things. So I think it it begins to it begins to impact the people that aren't in power more than the people that are in power. Right. So I think that we're going to continue to see issues like this as climate change begins to have, like, real world impact. So we just need to do our part and try to do better with that. Exactly. And that climate change causes, right. everything getting just out of whack when it comes to the kind of temperature we're getting, what kind of, ah ah if we're getting certain natural disasters, if we're getting too much heat, too little heat, is it too cold? Too much heat means probably the sun is shining a little bit too hard more than it should be shining. And we know that we gotta protect our skin, our glowing melanin skin, okay?
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And so thankfully we have the gift of melanin, but having the gift of melanin does not mean that sunscreen is not to be used for black people. So it's actually, and of course we always have to talk about our health awareness month, it is actually UV safety month. And so I would like- What month? u v UV ultraviolet safety month. Yes. There is a month for everything. Wow. There is a month for everything, isn't it? And this is very timely considering we are in the month of July. The sun has been shining a little bit too hard, especially in DC. I'm, I won't hold you guys. I've been sweating through all my scrubs, everything. And so, um, I think it's important for us to just kind of give perspective as to, you know, the importance of black skin protection against the sun. So hyperpigmentation disorders like melasma,
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and post-inflammatory hyperpigmentation are actually more prevalent in individuals with darker skin tones, significantly affecting their quality of life. Now, while ultraviolet light has been has long been known to contribute to these conditions, recent research actually highlights a significant, often overlooked role of visible light in exacerbating hyperpigmentation, particularly in skin of color. And so um I think it's actually necessary for us to know that it's not even just about like getting maybe something very serious like cancer, which we're not exempt from, but even just like making sure our skin is even because sometimes y'all walk around with all these black dots on y'all face and you're wondering why that is, it could have simply been resolved with sunscreen, right? And there is actually, thankfully, more options available to us because we know that the mineral sunscreen with the cast, which is not doing it for black skin and
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We were like, yo, look at my ghost, looking like straight up goes and how are we supposed to hide? the Like my foundation can only do so much. It can't, it can't hide ghost looking sunscreen. Okay. So, um, I think it's nice because now we're in a time where there's different options that we have black girl sunscreen. Apparently, there's even been new trends um developing in tailored photo protection, which emphasizes using cutting edge methods to improve sun protection effectiveness customized to each person specific requirements. So basically like personalized sunscreen. And so I think that's really cool that that like is even an option. um But
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I would like to also emphasize skin cancer does still happen in blocks and maybe it's not at the same rate, but it actually was found, it was actually found that black male patients were actually more likely to be older at diagnosis and have melo melanoma that metastasized to the lymph nodes. And this actually translated to poor survival survival rates. And so it's actually known that black people, if we do get skin cancer, it's likely already gone very far when it's discovered compared to white ah skin. And so we need to understand that skin protection for us is actually vital because it's probably even harder to detect it in our skin to begin with. But yeah, I mean, what are y'all, how y'all going to be, you know, lathering up on the sunscreen? this on what What changes are you guys going to be making to your skincare routine? Because, you know, I like mine right now.
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That's every day, baby. Sunscreen is not a thing. I mean, sunscreen is a thing every single day. That is a part of the skincare routine. We got the toners. We have the serums. We have the moisturizers. But that sunscreen is every day. And I got to tell my sisters about it, too. And because they're like, why you been on sunscreen? Why is why is skincare routine 10 steps? Because it is. Because it is. Right. And that's it. And that's it. Jared, what you using? Because, you know, your skin is kind of glowing from what I could see, but... My brothers in Christ. Yes, tos to your friends. Y'all know that the Lord always going to make a way. I do not have no kind of sunscreen nowhere near my set up. I I don't be doing sunscreen on at all. I'm not going to lie. I actually wanted to ask, like, isn't it like only if you're going to be in the sun for a prolonged period of time that you should throw some sunscreen? No, no, no, no, no. Anytime you step foot outside that door.
01:07:22
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That's tough. That's what's going on. Even Andor, just keep it in. Yeah, Andor is just crazy. Wait, I'm sorry. Are y'all, I'm sorry. Isabella, you laughing too hard. Isabella, you're laughing too hard. You're laughing too hard. That strike one Johnson over here in the chat asking if I got the ten and one soap in my shower caddy Like is it like is it dawn dish soap or something like that? No, it is only three and one downplay
01:07:57
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Relax or relax. I got a separate body wash if you conditioner I got us. I got a separate lotion body oil you fill me You just miss the sunscreen you just miss that's it you missing the Sun i will say I will say I'm into the sunscreen But you feel listen, here here we are to hear me out. I work nights Mmm So I'll be leaving the crib to some already dad. She said, that doesn't matter. She said, look at her eyes set. And what that mean, like you alive in the sun is out like UK, you in your bed, but the sun is still shining on you. You might be sleep, but it's there. Man, you don't want to see these blackout curtains. I got I work. I work nights. I got seat during the day. These blackout curtains go crazy. jared I'm begging you, please go to your mobile.
01:08:51
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but my I'm begging you, go hit that. ah What do they got in New York? It's a special drug story. I got Dwayne reids yes oh yes he mean has dwayne Reed. Just pick one. i give I'm gonna let y'all know how it go just just because it's UV prediction month And so I spin it like this my brothers in Christ if we gonna be outside this time We gotta be outside the right way. You feel me? We gotta to be able to protect ourselves from all The things that might be coming in a little hot these ladies included you feel me Kings? That's what I'm talking about yeah
01:09:32
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Okay. well yes This has been great. I i'm i didn't know Jared and skipped out on sunscreen, but you know what? He learned something new today. That's what the podcast is all about. You go and get that sunscreen. Okay. We're going to keep supporting you said yourself mus and glow in anyway. um it was it is but But you don't have the sheen of sunscreen. I don't see that on your face. That's what you're missing, right? Now, next after that, right? Jared's going to buy us a sunscreen. Then we're going to be supporting Vote yeah ER these next few months. And to step in, when we get that full circle moment and we hear Biden say, Kabbalah.
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