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Introduction to Tool's 'Ænima' Review
00:00:31
Nicole Shine
Hello.
00:00:34
Conor
Hey everyone, welcome back to Glenwood's Music Club, where each week we pick an album and review it. In this episode, we're reviewing another one of Nikki's choices, Tools, Enema.
00:00:49
Conor
Enema.
00:00:50
Nicole Shine
Anima.
00:00:50
Conor
Anema.
00:00:51
Nicole Shine
Anima. Anima.
00:00:51
Conor
So, we're basically, like you said earlier, last episode's breaking the seal, you know.
00:00:52
Nicole Shine
Whatever.
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Nicole Shine
know. Pronunciation. Yeah, breaking the steel until finally it was time
00:01:06
Conor
Yep, yep, exactly.
Background on 'Ænima' Album
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Conor
Alright, so, released September 17th, 1996. This is their second album. Produced by the band and David Bottrell, the album was recorded at Ocean Way Recording in Hollywood and The Hook in North Hollywood. It is the first album by Tool to feature bassist Justice, Justice, Justin Chancellor, who replaced original bassist Paul themore The year prior.
00:01:37
Conor
The title, I'm going mess it up just like you messed up the first teftones. The title, Anima, is a combination of the words Anima, which is Latin for soul, and associated with the ideas of life force, and term often used by psychologist Carl Jung.
00:01:46
Nicole Shine
mention of the words and for soul
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Nicole Shine
carl
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Conor
And Anima, the medical procedure involving the injection of fluids into the
Dedication to Bill Hicks: Influence & Direction
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Conor
rectum,
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
I mean, yeah. The linear notes included references to disassociative anesthesia through ketamine as well as Timothy Leary Futon's ritual magic and religious fundle fundamentalism.
00:02:06
Nicole Shine
here
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Conor
The band dedicated the album to comedian Bill Hicks, who they felt was going in the same direction as them, and as said, this album was partly inspired by him.
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Nicole Shine
was doing it
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Nicole Shine
inspire me
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Conor
The inside cover displays art featuring a painting of a disabled patient that shows a resemblance to singer Maynard James Keenan and Bill Hicks depicted as a doctor or healer with the line, another dead hero.
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Nicole Shine
hard <unk>
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Conor
um The packaging was nominated for the Grammy Award for Best Recording Package. North American Pressings of the album were packaged in a custom lenticular jewel case.
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Conor
for the cover and interior display. The cover art and other images and the linear notes can be can be set behind the lenticular lens to create an effective sequential animation.
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Conor
um European pressings of the CD featured a standard case and the insert contained a catalog of 16 fictional and humorous titled Other Albums Available by Tool.
Accolades and Influence of 'Ænima'
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Conor
um So, Anima was certified platinum on February 14th, 1997, just four months and 16 days after its release.
00:03:38
Nicole Shine
after
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Conor
That's fucking crazy, but I mean, Tool fans. um The track, Anima, won the Grammy Award for Best Metal Performance in 1998. On March 4th, 2003, Anima was officially certified trypno triple platinum by the RIAA.
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Conor
The album has appeared on lists of best albums in 96 in Kerrang! and Terrorizer. of 2003, Animo was ranked the sixth most influential album of all time by Kerrang!
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Conor
In 2006, it placed 14th on the Guitar World Readers Poll that attempted to find the best 100 guitar albums.
00:04:18
Nicole Shine
to get our
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Nicole Shine
hundred
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Conor
In 2014, readers of Rhythm voted it the third greatest drumming album in the history of progressive rock, which i totally agree.
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Nicole Shine
readers
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Nicole Shine
home
00:04:37
Conor
This album has some insane drumming on it. 2025, it was ranked by Livewire as the ninth best progressive metal album of the 1990s.
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Conor
So, babe, how did you find out about this album?
Hosts' Discovery of Tool's Music
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Conor
Did you discover it yourself or did someone introduce it to you? Silly question, but it's our, you know.
00:04:59
Nicole Shine
Yeah, yeah, yeah, the format. um Actually, this you know, i have a lot to say about this album.
00:05:06
Conor
Yeah, let's do it.
00:05:06
Nicole Shine
think um
00:05:07
Conor
Rip it open. That's what we're here for.
00:05:11
Nicole Shine
This was actually the album that got me into them. Like, I had heard I haven't really listened to Undertale. I have heard Sober, of course, just like everybody else. Thought the video was cool, just like everybody else, but I didn't really get into them.
00:05:22
Conor
yeah
00:05:24
Nicole Shine
i have a lot of friends who like Tool, and they were listening. They would listen to this all the time, and I kind of got into it from there. um So, yeah, this is the one that kind of got me. I was introduced through friends and got into them that way.
00:05:46
Conor
That's funny because it's very similar to me. um I've known about them since undertow as well with, you know, headbangers, ball, et cetera.
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Conor
That video was everywhere. It took me until being with you to really get in into tool despite numerous attempts from others in my life.
00:06:03
Nicole Shine
Yeah. why
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Conor
um I like them, but like sometimes it's hard to love them just because of their non-norm time signatures. I think I like more cookie cutter personally.
00:06:17
Nicole Shine
Yeah. Yeah. um It was through them that I discovered my love of weird time signature. Yeah.
00:06:24
Conor
There you go.
00:06:24
Nicole Shine
But just saying, them one thing.
00:06:24
Conor
Yeah. But I will say I do love them for when I want to listen to something atmospheric because, yeah, their music just takes you elsewhere, you know, when they get going.
00:06:26
Nicole Shine
It's something after. Because, yeah, you Yeah.
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Conor
So.
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Nicole Shine
The goats. All right.
Analysis of 'Stinkfist'
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Conor
All right.
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Nicole Shine
Let's get into the track list.
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Conor
Let's get into the album track list. um First song, Stink Fist.
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Nicole Shine
First song, Stingist. Mm-hmm.
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Conor
The album opener tackles desensitization and emotional numbness using visceral boundary-pushing imagery. The lyrics explore how humanity constantly craves more extreme destructive stimuli just to feel something, questioning why we are afraid to look deeper into our own pain.
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Conor
um Thoughts?
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Nicole Shine
Um, banger of a first song. You know, I gotta do it. I had i can't i gotta to start it. I gotta do it already. You know you know um you know what I'm about to do.
00:07:19
Conor
Do it.
00:07:21
Nicole Shine
Anybody who's listened to us for, you know, been with us for a while, but I gotta do it. This is the radio song. It's the song for the radio.
00:07:35
Nicole Shine
Radio song. It's the song that people say when they say they like the band.
00:07:43
Conor
What else? Oh, Stink Fist. Yeah, OK. um Yeah, I agree. It's a great opener. openings Opening sounds like like a broken, scary Jack in the Box about to open, which is pretty cool. Stylized vocals that are like very Maynard.
00:08:03
Conor
All right, second.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah. Yeah.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
Other ah quick thing. Tool fans will know this. Tool fans will know everything we're about to say, but um this is for the uninitiated.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
But um um MTV, he said, title is track one on the video. like have you MTV's not a thing anymore. But um if you go back, if look at old like MTV clips or whatever ah videos, and they they play this, it's track one instead of Stingfist because they didn't want to put Stingfist.
00:08:34
Nicole Shine
It's just a little funny thing.
00:08:39
Conor
ah Come on, I mean
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Nicole Shine
And this video is iconic too, by the way. Shout out to Adam Jones.
00:08:46
Conor
Yeah. um
Critique of Hero Worship
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Conor
All right. So track two, Eulogy. This track serves as a harsh critique of hero worship and mayordom. It deconstructs the idea of blindly following charismatic leaders, religious figures, or even artists, asking listeners to think for themselves rather than worshiping someone who demands absolute loyalty.
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Conor
Thoughts on this one?
00:09:11
Nicole Shine
Another banger. I love this one. um I like this one because people always try to like debate. who Mander's talking about, they're like, oh, it's this person, oh, it's about this person, oh, it's about this person, I'm like, we don't, you know, it's, it's about whoever, just put in your mind who it's about, because Mander's never gonna tell us, but, um, a lot of people are like, it's about L.
00:09:22
Conor
yeah
00:09:36
Nicole Shine
Ron Hubbard, and it's about this person, it's about Jesus, or, um, I've heard that it's about Cobain, I've heard, you know what I mean like,
00:09:40
Conor
Yeah.
00:09:44
Conor
Right? Yeah.
00:09:45
Nicole Shine
um I've heard you know so many different people who the song is about to be supposed to be about. But lyrically, I really enjoy the song. I love the sentiment behind it. Yeah.
00:10:01
Nicole Shine
Banger. Banger.
00:10:01
Conor
Yeah. um I feel like a lot of their music is kind of like,
00:10:02
Nicole Shine
feel like a lot of music is kind
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Conor
um I had the word just a minute ago, but like like you said, it's not about anyone particular. It's more about like a theme, you know, or whatever.
00:10:18
Conor
But no, my thoughts are like groovy bass. I fucking rock and tune. And I love that end guitar in the song. Yeah.
00:10:27
Nicole Shine
Yeah, this is some ah this a sum of Adam's best guitar playing on this song, I think. it he'd really like it really because i know um like danny deservedly so gets a lot of you know for his drumming but you know i feel like adam really you know was playing playing on a lot of these songs on this album yeah and i don't think he i mean he does from tool fans but as far as like public in general um
00:10:44
Conor
Yeah.
00:10:50
Conor
Yeah.
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Conor
ah just kind of see Danny drumming and yeah, no, you're right.
00:10:59
Nicole Shine
Yeah, yeah. Because he's a fucking octopus. And it's I think it's hard when you're in a band with a fucking alien. You
00:11:07
Conor
person with eight arms. Yeah.
00:11:09
Nicole Shine
you know, but he he just definitely deserves. um
00:11:12
Conor
Yeah, it keeps up with the drums for sure, you know?
00:11:15
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
Yeah. all right, track three, h Often associated with the birth of Maynard James Keenan's son, the song explores breaking the cycle of intergenerational
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Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
Intergenerational Trauma in Lyrics
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Conor
trauma.
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Conor
It contrasts the pain slash resentment of one's own childhood with the unconditional transformative love that comes with becoming a parent, learning to face dark shadows and grow.
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Conor
Thoughts on this one?
00:11:45
Nicole Shine
don't fight me to an army
00:11:47
Conor
Oh, OK.
00:11:49
Nicole Shine
ah we mean we know how we are this one of course a good song a beautiful song beautiful sentiment behind the song all that stuff but this is um if i'm being like 100 honest this is usually a skip for me um
00:12:04
Conor
ok okay
00:12:07
Nicole Shine
I can listen to it. It's not a bad song. So it's not like a lot of skips where it's like, You know?
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
It's not like last... What was it? Last Week Elite? Yeah.
00:12:16
Conor
Yeah.
00:12:17
Nicole Shine
Yeah, I was like,
00:12:17
Conor
Yeah.
00:12:18
Nicole Shine
I hate this. I don't hate it. But it's not... I don't know. For some reason, it's just... I'm just kind of like... grope It doesn't grab me. And if I'm like...
00:12:28
Conor
No, I get it. Yeah.
00:12:30
Nicole Shine
I'm just kind of skipping past it. I don't know why. I just...
00:12:35
Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
it's okay like i'm not you know if i listen to it i'm not in doing something else i'm not going to run to skip it but if i'm like in my car driving i might skip past it like that
00:12:46
Conor
Gotcha. Yeah, yeah. um I love the echoey guitar in the song. um The song definitely changes throughout, but that's you know par for tool.
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Conor
They don't just stay with one type of thing. you know um All right, track four, Useful Idiot. An atmospheric minute-long interlude consisting of the sound of a skipping record player. It was placed halfway through the record deliberately intended to track final listeners.
00:13:15
Conor
into thinking their copy was broken. Dick move. Now, um what do you think of this?
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Nicole Shine
What did you of this?
00:13:22
Conor
well Okay.
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Nicole Shine
talked about this, I think it was on our Pink Floyd review, where I talked about Soul and their interludes. And we were talking about the difference between an instrumental and an interlude.
00:13:28
Conor
yeah
00:13:33
Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
So these are interludes, where I feel like on the on dark side, they were instrumentals.
00:13:35
Conor
Yeah.
00:13:39
Nicole Shine
The difference, yeah.
00:13:40
Conor
Yeah. True.
00:13:41
Nicole Shine
And I was trying to explain to you the difference. Because you were like, what is the difference?
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Conor
Yeah.
00:13:46
Nicole Shine
a lot A lot of these are the difference of just being like, it's not really mute um music. It's like noises or, you know what I mean? Like, um a lot a lot of tools to interlude are 50-50 for me.
00:13:55
Conor
Yeah, yeah, that makes a lot more sense.
00:14:01
Nicole Shine
Some of them get really fucking annoying. We'll get to the one that's really fucking annoying later.
00:14:06
Conor
Yep.
00:14:06
Nicole Shine
But um this one's not too bad. It's just it short. Not too bad. There's. It's funny, there's one on here that I never skip, but there's most of these interludes on here I skip if I'm in the car.
00:14:22
Conor
yeah
00:14:24
Nicole Shine
Like I said, if I'm letting the record play, letting the yeah, I let it play, but if I'm driving in the car, I'm not going sit there and listen to fucking 40 minutes of of that noise.
00:14:27
Conor
You let it play. Yeah. Oh yeah. I get you.
00:14:38
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:14:38
Conor
Um, yeah, I love this choice. The choice of this as an interlude. It's just a great audible. Um, it's probably my, it is my favorite interlude on this album.
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Conor
Um, probably in general from like tool.
00:14:55
Nicole Shine
down
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Conor
I'm saying that early, but you know. All right. So track five is 46 and two rooted in Carl Jung's concept of shadow integration and esoteric theories of human evolution.
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Conor
The title refers to a hypothetical evolutionary leap where humans gain two extra chromosomes from 46 48.
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Conor
symbolizing the evolution of human consciousness and the total acceptance of one's darker repressed shelf the shadow thoughts on this one yeah
00:15:32
Nicole Shine
Every tool fan's license plate. um
00:15:37
Nicole Shine
This is the unofficial. I don't think this was ever officially a single. But it got played, it got picked up by just about every radio station in this play.
00:15:47
Conor
yeah
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Nicole Shine
More than the, what was the other single from this album, which we'll get to.
00:15:53
Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
It has that radio, this is the radio song kind of feel to it.
00:15:58
Conor
Yeah.
00:15:59
Nicole Shine
um This is, this song is perfect. Like, i love I love the cover. i love when I see people do cover versions of the song. This this song flows like,
00:16:12
Nicole Shine
Only way I can really put it is flow. Like, the way it flows, it's almost like classical music.
00:16:15
Conor
yeah
00:16:18
Nicole Shine
The way it, like, flows and builds and moves. Like, the music moves has movement to it. It's hard to explain, but banger.
00:16:30
Conor
No, I get where are you're coming from.
00:16:30
Nicole Shine
I mean, yeah, I love this fucking song. So it's popular for a reason. Yeah.
00:16:35
Conor
Yeah,
00:16:36
Nicole Shine
I mean, that bass, Andrew is so sick.
00:16:36
Conor
I mean that bass intro and riff is just so sick.
00:16:40
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:16:41
Conor
The guitar works so well with it too. um Yeah, it just like you said it flows. That's a good descriptor for sure. All right, track six.
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Conor
Message to Harry Manback. us
00:16:57
Nicole Shine
That's just a funny title in it though.
00:16:59
Conor
Right? Yeah.
00:16:59
Nicole Shine
Harry Manbag.
00:17:01
Conor
A spoken word track set over ominous piano music. It is a real deeply aggressive voicemail left by an angry former roommate slash tenant who was evicted by the band.
Interlude Track Review: Voicemail
00:17:14
Conor
It highlights sheer human pettiness and anger, serving as a dark humorous counterpoint to the album's higher philosophy. philosophical themes what are your thoughts on this one
00:17:26
Nicole Shine
I skip this shit every time. Like, you only need to listen to it one time. It is their third most annoying interlude. Their second most annoying, least annoying interlude is on this album.
00:17:44
Nicole Shine
There's one. i don't know if we'll ever do Opiate. It's an um I mean, we've done an EP, but.
00:17:52
Conor
yeah
00:17:52
Nicole Shine
Not, not, not an opiate. It's on, um, saliva.
00:17:56
Conor
okay
00:17:56
Nicole Shine
That is, and everybody that's a soul fan knows what talking about. But LA, LA MC is the most annoying interlude that any band has ever put on an album.
00:18:12
Nicole Shine
It's terrible. But, um, This one is not that annoying. it's It's funny the first time you listen to it. And I can imagine somebody listening to this album the first time being like, what the fuck is this?
00:18:24
Nicole Shine
But um you it's you only need to listen to it once.
00:18:25
Conor
Yeah.
00:18:28
Conor
I was going to say, that's good enough.
00:18:29
Nicole Shine
Once you listen to it once, you don't ever have to listen to it again.
00:18:33
Conor
Yeah, I just imagine just repeat listens are not going to be highly likely. you know um I thought it was a good idea for an interlude track. um And I jokingly say, good way to get back at someone.
00:18:46
Conor
you know Very shady.
00:18:47
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:18:49
Conor
So, yeah. Immortalize their they're stupid voicemail. all right, next track, Hooker with a Penis.
Response to 'Selling Out' Accusations
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Conor
A blistering response to early fans and critics who accused the band of selling out once they achieved mainstream radio success.
00:19:09
Conor
Kenan sarcastically addresses the idea that playing music for money somehow compromises the art, brutally mocking the self-righteous hypocrisy of elitist fans.
00:19:22
Conor
Thoughts?
00:19:23
Nicole Shine
I love this song.
00:19:24
Conor
yeah
00:19:24
Nicole Shine
Again, I mean, I'm going to that a lot. But it's nobody can read a bitch like Maynard. And
00:19:34
Conor
you saying he's a queen
00:19:36
Nicole Shine
yes, he will probably call it. I mean, he does do drag. But um yeah, like it is the perfect response. to anybody who says this a band has sold out like you I mean what can you say like everything like we think we know these people but we don't know them like everybody who's ever made a like a commercial record for sale has sold out like what do you mean it's my sold out what the fuck you think you're buying a product like you're literally buying a product from a
00:20:00
Conor
yeah
00:20:08
Conor
Right? Yeah.
00:20:11
Conor
Right?
00:20:16
Nicole Shine
probably a chain store somewhere. you know what mean? Like, yes, he's, what do you mean selling out? What is selling out?
00:20:24
Conor
Right?
00:20:24
Nicole Shine
You know what I mean?
00:20:25
Conor
Yeah.
00:20:25
Nicole Shine
Like, the fuck just somebody's popular. And I hate, I always hate that because somebody's popular, they sold out. Like, you know what mean?
00:20:33
Conor
I know.
00:20:33
Nicole Shine
Like, come on, bro.
00:20:34
Conor
Yeah. I hate that shit, too.
00:20:36
Nicole Shine
So I, and this song is just a a banger.
00:20:36
Conor
Um...
00:20:39
Nicole Shine
And it, it's probably the hardest the song that goes the hardest on the album and yeah who no notes
00:20:51
Conor
It's funny when you talk about selling out because Jason Newstead had a very funny quote when he was still in Metallica doing an interview. And he was like, you know, when he was being asked about people saying they sold out, he's like, yeah, we sell out every single night in every arena. i was like, fuck yeah, dude, to own it.
00:21:10
Conor
You know, like like, fuck you.
00:21:11
Nicole Shine
yeah like the fuck
00:21:12
Conor
Who are you? You know? Yeah, right.
00:21:14
Nicole Shine
and I'm supposed to be homeless because you fucking...
00:21:18
Conor
yeah right Oh, my morals. I won't, you know, I won't take any money because then I'll be a sellout. No, I got to pay rent. um I mean, with the title track like that or track title like that, you're instantly going to people like take notice and want to listen to it, you know?
00:21:36
Nicole Shine
I know.
00:21:39
Nicole Shine
and I noticed like a lot of people who like like I watch a lot of reaction videos the tool is like or bands I like in general.
00:21:47
Conor
Yeah.
00:21:47
Nicole Shine
And when people react to this album and they see that title for the first time, you always get fucking dude bros being like, oh, don't know if I want to listen to this. What's this going to be about? Oh, gosh.
00:22:00
Conor
That's so dumb. Like, what are you afraid? It's going jump out, bend you over, and rape you up the ass? No.
00:22:05
Nicole Shine
Oh, what are they going to say?
00:22:06
Conor
If I listen to it, I might turn gay.
00:22:07
Nicole Shine
Shut up.
00:22:08
Conor
oh
00:22:08
Nicole Shine
I ooooh.
00:22:10
Conor
Like, okay.
00:22:10
Nicole Shine
Shut up. Don't listen to this whole...
00:22:12
Conor
That's just...
00:22:13
Nicole Shine
Just shut up.
00:22:14
Conor
That's homophobia. Like, dude, really?
00:22:16
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:22:16
Conor
There's... That's stupid.
00:22:18
Nicole Shine
Anyway.
00:22:19
Conor
Anyways, so Enrant, next track, Intermission. A quirky, upbeat, carnival-like organ instrumental. It acts as a necessary breather or intermission to lighten the mood before diving into the incredibly heavy, dark themes of the album's later half.
00:22:38
Conor
Thoughts.
00:22:40
Nicole Shine
This is the one that I listen to. Remember as I always listen to one?
00:22:43
Conor
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:22:45
Nicole Shine
I always listen to this intermission because it so it's... So it's basically the the next song.
00:22:49
Conor
It's not.
00:22:52
Nicole Shine
It's Jimmy.
00:22:52
Conor
Yeah.
00:22:53
Nicole Shine
if you I don't know if you picked up on that. But it's like...
00:22:56
Conor
No, I didn't.
00:22:58
Nicole Shine
It's the same music as the next song. But with like organ or whatever they're playing.
00:23:05
Conor
Okay.
00:23:05
Nicole Shine
But if it's the exact same music. as Adam's guitar riff in Jimmy. But it's like on that whatever that is, an organ or sound like a daggone accordion or something.
00:23:16
Conor
Damn.
00:23:18
Nicole Shine
But it's the same it's the same as exact music.
00:23:18
Conor
Yeah, right.
00:23:21
Nicole Shine
So I always listen to it because it's fun. The contrast is so funny to me.
00:23:26
Conor
See, this is why this is good.
00:23:27
Nicole Shine
It wasn't. Mm-hmm.
00:23:28
Conor
Like, if a person that's deeply into Tool and a person that, you know, listens to them but isn't as deep because I'm learning shit, for sure.
00:23:35
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm. Yeah, go back to listen listen to Intermission and listen to Jimmy. It's the same.
00:23:41
Conor
Okay. All right.
00:23:42
Nicole Shine
It's pretty funny. thoughts on that song are scary, cool, perfect.
00:23:43
Conor
have to do that. i My only thoughts for this song was Scary, cool carnival music.
00:23:49
Nicole Shine
Alright, congratulations on Jimmy.
00:23:51
Conor
um All right, track nine, Jimmy.
00:23:52
Nicole Shine
A deeply
00:23:55
Conor
A deeply personal song continuing the themes explored in h It revisits childhood trauma, detailing the memory of Maynard's mother's illness and his own struggles.
00:23:55
Nicole Shine
personal song.
00:24:07
Conor
The lyrics serve as the narrator confronting his inner child and taking steps to heal and move on from the past. Thoughts?
00:24:16
Nicole Shine
Yeah, um I like when Leonard writes about his mom. Some of my favorite songs that he has are about that situation. um yeah
00:24:23
Conor
Yeah.
00:24:25
Nicole Shine
ah love the song, again. is um i like it It does kind of the same things that H does, i feel like, but better. like the song a lot better.
00:24:34
Conor
Okay.
00:24:36
Nicole Shine
I love the song. Side note, on the album, it's actually lowercase jack.
00:24:44
Conor
Okay.
00:24:44
Nicole Shine
because he's little. But...
00:24:46
Conor
Oh, it's those fine details.
00:24:50
Nicole Shine
But, yeah. um No notes. I mean, most of these songs are going to be a no note to me. What can I say?
00:24:57
Conor
All right. I mean, this one, that i don't know, in comparison all the other light tracks, it it was like, don't know, it kind of hit me with just an all right.
00:25:07
Conor
But the funny thing is, like after reading all these tracks, like stories behind the um song, like it definitely makes you want to go back and just constantly re-listen to the songs and kind of understand more what you know they're trying to get at, for sure.
00:25:25
Nicole Shine
Yeah, I think um this was the beginning.
00:25:26
Conor
sir
00:25:29
Nicole Shine
this song was almost, I mean, he kind of did it on sober too, but I think this is this was kind of the beginning of Maynard as the singer of
00:25:33
Conor
Yeah.
00:25:42
Conor
Okay.
00:25:43
Nicole Shine
You know what I mean? If if I'm trying to like find the right language for and what I want to say.
00:25:47
Conor
Yeah.
00:25:48
Nicole Shine
As far as like being a loud, yelly, and don't get me wrong, his voice is always good. it always it does It always does what it needs to do better than, you know, on every song.
00:25:55
Conor
Oh, yeah.
00:26:00
Conor
Yeah.
00:26:00
Nicole Shine
But ah you can see a perfect circle coming. know what I mean? After listening to Jimmy, you could see what he was about to do.
00:26:07
Conor
Yeah.
00:26:12
Nicole Shine
with the perfect circle and then on later two albums where he just let his voice be, you know, I don't gotta, you know, do the roar. I don't gotta do, you know what i mean? I could just sing and it can be beautiful.
00:26:21
Conor
Yeah.
00:26:25
Conor
Yeah.
00:26:25
Nicole Shine
you know what I mean?
00:26:27
Conor
No, totally.
00:26:27
Nicole Shine
Yeah. the Another song on here that's coming up too, where you can kind of start seeing that more. Yeah. right.
00:26:35
Conor
Yeah. All right. Track 10, Die Er von Satan.
Satirical Hash Cookie Recipe Track
00:26:42
Conor
It translates from German to the eggs of Satan or the balls of Satan.
00:26:46
Nicole Shine
I
00:26:49
Conor
This song is a satirical prank. It is read like an aggressive militant Nazi speech over an industrial beat, but it actually translates to a harmless recipe for hash cookies.
00:27:03
Conor
Thoughts.
00:27:04
Nicole Shine
always listen to this shit, too. Always, always, always listen to it. I don't know why. um i should probably, I could probably recite the recipe of what's funny. But, um yeah, ah it's just funny to me. Like, it's, every time I listen to it, it's never not funny.
00:27:27
Conor
Maynard got jokes.
00:27:28
Nicole Shine
oh they all do. But, um but it's, don't know, it's just funny to me.
00:27:30
Conor
Yeah, yeah.
00:27:34
Nicole Shine
Because it sounds, it definitely sounds, definitely giving like Third Reich. Right, yeah.
00:27:39
Conor
right yeah
00:27:40
Nicole Shine
But when you know what he's really talking about, and you can kind of like, when you listen to it, you can kind of hear certain words of, you know what i mean? That are definitely like food ingredients.
00:27:53
Conor
yeah there's certain words that aren't in like you know um nazi speech you know german whatever you know it's fucking don't know
00:27:57
Nicole Shine
Yeah. And I'm like, but it's German is not Nazi. Nazi speech.
00:28:07
Nicole Shine
But yeah, um it's it just is funny to me.
00:28:08
Conor
Charming? Furman?
00:28:10
Nicole Shine
so Yeah. Yeah.
00:28:11
Conor
Yeah, I thought it was a hilarious idea for song. Like, the aggressive speech makes you think, oh shit, they're saying some shit. And then when you hear what the song is about, you're like, what the fuck?
00:28:20
Nicole Shine
oh
00:28:23
Conor
You know, very comical.
00:28:24
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:28:26
Conor
So, all right, track 11, Push It. One of the most emotionally heavy tracks on the album. While it uses romantic possessive relationship language, the underlying meaning is about breaking destructive cycles and overcoming addiction.
00:28:43
Conor
It's a plea for growth, pushing oneself out of complacency and refusing to settle for a toxic or stagnant status quo. are your thoughts?
00:28:54
Nicole Shine
I love this song too. um while it While it is, you know, like you said, about overcoming addiction, and um it can also be seen as a like a song about DV, you know what i mean, as well.
00:29:12
Conor
Yeah.
00:29:14
Nicole Shine
um It kind of can have that double meaning. And um when I was going through certain situations, it really um was a song that spoke to me a lot.
00:29:25
Nicole Shine
um because always It always a personal meaning to me.
00:29:25
Conor
Nice. Okay.
00:29:29
Conor
Yeah.
00:29:29
Nicole Shine
um Would almost be my favorite song on the album. well We'll get to that part later.
00:29:35
Conor
Okay.
00:29:36
Nicole Shine
However, and Tool fans, again, will know what I'm talking about. But there is a version. And much like when we did Jarry Flies. And I was like, Nutshell would be my favorite. But there's a version of it that's better.
00:29:54
Nicole Shine
And it's the same thing with this song. Where this song would be...
00:29:56
Conor
Okay.
00:30:00
Nicole Shine
my favorite, but there's a song, there's a version, a recorded version of this song, a live version on Salival, that is so fucking good, it is so fucking good, like, oh, you listen to this and like, oh, this is so good, but no, that version of this, that song is so fucking good that it kind of dims the album version a little bit,
00:30:11
Conor
Nice.
00:30:28
Nicole Shine
So I usually, when I listen to that song, I usually go to that version instead of the album version.
00:30:34
Conor
And that's the live version? The other one?
00:30:35
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:30:36
Conor
Yeah, I feel like we've had this discussion before where if you may not like a song, like after you see a band live or you hear a live version, that kind of gets you, you know, into the song.
00:30:48
Conor
So it kind of sounds like that for you with this song.
00:30:51
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:30:51
Conor
Yeah. All right. um i said i was like that guitar sounds like a b that's buzzing in your ear um it's offsetting but cool sounding um the verse that maynard belts towards the end is just fucking great like i love it when he really lets loose you know yeah all right track 12 cesaro some ability hold on hold on before you sigh
00:31:00
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:31:21
Conor
An experimental interlude track. The title directly refers to Cesaro's summation or Cesaro's summability. Mathematical method used in calculus and analysis to assign a finite sum to certain infinite sequences.
00:31:37
Nicole Shine
Here they
00:31:37
Conor
Our series that would otherwise diverge go to infinity. The technique works by taking the average of the partial sums. Yeah, I just put tool equals math.
00:31:55
Conor
I didn't know I had to do homework when I listened this album.
00:31:55
Nicole Shine
go.
00:31:59
Nicole Shine
We said we were going to do that. We have them in their numbers and math.
00:32:03
Conor
Right?
00:32:03
Nicole Shine
Like, we we me and Connor have this conversation where we, like, bands have certain themes in their songs or certain imagery or metaphors that they go to all the time.
00:32:14
Nicole Shine
And once you start hearing them, you can't not hear them.
00:32:18
Conor
Right?
00:32:18
Nicole Shine
Like, Deftones is cars or riding in cars or any vehicles.
00:32:20
Conor
Yeah.
00:32:23
Conor
Mm-hmm.
00:32:24
Nicole Shine
um
00:32:25
Conor
Who's water?
00:32:27
Nicole Shine
Radiohead.
00:32:27
Conor
Radiohead. Yeah.
00:32:28
Nicole Shine
It's always a water or a lake or an ocean or a river or...
00:32:31
Conor
Yeah. Goddamn, Tom. Go swim.
00:32:33
Nicole Shine
Or rain.
00:32:34
Conor
Shit.
00:32:34
Nicole Shine
don't know, getting water.
00:32:36
Conor
Right?
00:32:36
Nicole Shine
And it was another band that had another one. But always say tools is always numbers and math and equations.
00:32:45
Conor
Yeah.
00:32:46
Nicole Shine
Like, they're going to hit you with the math or the theory or the mathematical equation.
00:32:46
Conor
God.
00:32:54
Nicole Shine
ah there you know but hey, that's why we love them, right?
00:32:58
Conor
Oh, okay.
00:32:59
Nicole Shine
This one I skipped, by the way.
00:33:01
Conor
oh okay All right.
00:33:02
Nicole Shine
Yeah. All right.
00:33:03
Conor
Okay. I mean, yeah. Track 13, Anima. The title track of a mashup of Anima, the Jungian inner feminine soul, and Anima, a medical flesh out.
00:33:20
Conor
Inspired by the comedy of Bill Hicks, the song is a scathing attack on the shallowness of Los Angeles and celebrity culture. The lyrics express a desire for California to slide into the ocean, flushing away all the materialism, fake spirituality, and vanity to start anew.
00:33:40
Nicole Shine
This was a single as well. um
00:33:43
Conor
Yeah.
00:33:44
Nicole Shine
This song, it has a video, which is pretty cool. It's not us well known as some of their other videos, but it's pretty cool.
00:33:51
Conor
yeah
00:33:52
Nicole Shine
um This song is amazing.
00:33:57
Conor
the
00:33:58
Nicole Shine
I mean, listen, a I mean, how can you, like, listen to the song and not like, like, this song is so good. I mean, I mean i don't know what else, the what can be said about it other than it's lyrics good, music good, everything good.
00:34:21
Nicole Shine
So, it has, you know, where tool fans get learned to swim, um, which is one of, uh, popular, another popular saying that we have amongst each other, um yeah, i don't, i don't know, yeah, yep.
00:34:39
Conor
Yeah. um my My thought was like that drumming halfway through the song, like, oh my God, dude.
00:34:48
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:34:48
Conor
Like he's just going. There are so many songs where he just goes off and it's, God, octopus for sure.
00:34:52
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:34:56
Nicole Shine
Yeah, that when it it comes back towards the the last, like, third of the song, and it's like those crashing drums.
00:35:01
Conor
Yep. Yep.
00:35:05
Nicole Shine
yes Yeah.
00:35:05
Conor
Right?
00:35:06
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:35:07
Conor
Like, oh, get it. Man. um All right, track 14. um Ions and then parentheses a little minus, I guess.
00:35:19
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:35:20
Conor
An unsettling soundscape slash noise track designed to set a tense atmospheric mood It sonically represents the neural firing of the brain and acts as a transitional bridge into the vast cosmic exploration of the final track.
00:35:39
Conor
um Okay, before you give your thought, I just ah just realized something.
00:35:43
Nicole Shine
I just realized.
00:35:47
Conor
tool and prints have a lot of thing in common with the way they like name their tracks they always got put some shit you know they got explain but anyways your thoughts on it you just give it okay
00:35:48
Nicole Shine
prince have a lot of things they What? Tool Prince lot things in common with
00:35:59
Nicole Shine
let's get it i mean a lot a lot of a lot of the anyway, she's I'll skip it. mean, lot of the interludes, you know i mean? Like, I skip because
00:36:12
Nicole Shine
I've listened to these albums so many times that I don't really feel the need to, you know what mean? So listen to the interludes, the interludes, just, you know, and this is all, I'll explain later.
00:36:18
Conor
Yeah, no, I get you.
00:36:25
Nicole Shine
There's one album where I really don't skip the interludes and we'll get there.
00:36:26
Conor
Yeah.
00:36:28
Nicole Shine
But um yeah, on this one, I just kind of go past most of the interludes. Sorry, not sorry.
00:36:37
Conor
No, I totally hear you. Like, that's something we'll have to talk about when we do our favorite, least favorite thing, because that's definitely a discussion to be had.
00:36:43
Nicole Shine
Yeah. ah Yeah, I don't even count them as songs. Like, I wouldn't count them as songs in my favorite, least favorite.
00:36:50
Conor
Okay.
00:36:50
Nicole Shine
So, yeah.
00:36:53
Conor
All right.
00:36:53
Nicole Shine
All right.
00:36:54
Conor
Well, my thoughts are in a world.
00:37:00
Nicole Shine
All
00:37:00
Conor
It's just very dystopian, like underwater audible feel.
00:37:03
Nicole Shine
right.
00:37:06
Conor
They're going crazy on that material they use in plays to make it sound like thunder. I'm like, calm down.
00:37:11
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:37:12
Conor
Like Maynard's on the side just going apeshit with that shit. um But yeah. Alright, track 15, Third Eye.
Spiritual Awakening in a 14-Minute Track
00:37:22
Conor
The epic 14-minute closing track incorporates the late comedian Bill Hicks' voice and revolves entirely around spiritual awakening. It is about prying the third eye open to expand consciousness, letting go of ego, and realizing that the physical, materialistic world is just an illusion.
00:37:42
Conor
Your thoughts?
00:37:45
Nicole Shine
This is one of the best songs ever made. And I say that with no... This is one of the best fucking songs ever made.
00:37:57
Nicole Shine
This is the start of Super Long Tool, which a lot of people may or may not like.
00:38:00
Conor
Super long.
00:38:06
Nicole Shine
We'll get there and it doesn't hold up.
00:38:08
Conor
Yep.
00:38:08
Nicole Shine
um part of it but um this song is like nothing like the first time you hear it like i get jealous of people who get to hear this song for the first time like this this song is like nothing if you've never heard the song or any of their songs their albums after this is like nothing you've fucking ever heard before um It's an amazing fucking song. That's all I can really say about it.
00:38:40
Nicole Shine
It's the GOAT. The GOAT. but Go ahead. Yeah, my thought was just like, and this song is going to be a perfect change.
00:38:43
Conor
um Yeah, my thoughts were just like, man, this song has so many different like changes, you know?
00:38:50
Nicole Shine
You know? And that's very natural.
00:38:50
Conor
And that's a very, very tool. um
00:38:55
Nicole Shine
I love when he just, again, making belt.
00:38:55
Conor
I love when he just, again, Maynard belting, you know, prying open my third eye.
00:38:57
Nicole Shine
You know, probably little bit longer about me.
00:39:01
Conor
And I said doing is Teddy P singing.
00:39:01
Nicole Shine
And I said, don't get
00:39:04
Nicole Shine
<unk>
00:39:04
Conor
You're going to listen. Take notice. you know um But yeah.
00:39:08
Nicole Shine
that's a comparison you don't get all the time
00:39:10
Conor
I know right. Yeah. yeah Alright. ah Favorite and least favorite song.
00:39:18
Nicole Shine
okay so my favorite song is probably going to be third eye I mean I don't think that was much of a surprise on there.
00:39:31
Conor
Okay.
00:39:33
Nicole Shine
It used to be pushed, like I said, it was pushing for a while.
00:39:35
Conor
I was going to say, I thought it was push it based on your previous. Yeah.
00:39:39
Nicole Shine
But again, there's a much more superior recorded version.
00:39:46
Conor
Okay.
00:39:47
Nicole Shine
even thinking about it realistically, I'm like, it's not, like, Third Eye is just, it's from somewhere else. So, yeah. um
00:39:59
Nicole Shine
I would have to say my least favorite is going to again, Tool Army, don't take my card. But I'm going to have to say h If I'm going least favorite, out of all the other songs on there, it's just the one that's just not quite, it doesn't quite do it for me.
00:40:07
Conor
I knew it, yeah.
00:40:17
Nicole Shine
I can't realistically put any of the other, I mean, I guess I could as least favorite, but yeah. Yeah, H. So.
00:40:24
Conor
Um... um My favorite, I'm very much, it's funny because you were talking about them being hit singles and basically all my favorites are like the singles.
00:40:36
Conor
um It was a toss up between Stingfist and I think 46 and two. know, I know.
00:40:43
Nicole Shine
The radio song.
00:40:45
Conor
I know, but I mean, that's kind of par for me. This is
00:40:48
Nicole Shine
It's the songs that people say when they say that they like the band.
00:40:51
Conor
like, I have more to say when we talk about the rest of, you know,
00:40:57
Nicole Shine
Okay, go ahead. go ahead
00:40:58
Conor
album ranking but yeah um my least is god probably like cesaro some ability or dire air von shaten yeah i mean basically most of the instrumental interludes except for useful idiot um yeah and those are those are like my least favorites
00:40:59
Nicole Shine
Okay.
00:41:09
Nicole Shine
I mean those aren't songs.
00:41:13
Nicole Shine
scream <unk>
00:41:22
Nicole Shine
I'm gonna push you a little bit out of an actual songs. What would you say?
00:41:28
Conor
Oh, God. um
00:41:31
Conor
I think maybe, yeah, H or Jimmy. Yeah, I forget which one, but yeah, they just it was kind of stuck in my head when I was like i was listening and i would constantly go back and put you know songs under my favorite or least favorite, and then as I got further, those would change.
00:41:34
Nicole Shine
Cool.
00:41:48
Conor
But yeah, yeah.
00:41:48
Nicole Shine
okay all right
00:41:51
Conor
Does it hold up?
00:41:54
Nicole Shine
um yes of of course i mean of course i'm gonna say yes um no i mean i don't give a fuck what nobody like i say what i want um and
00:41:59
Conor
You'd get crucified if you said no. No? it's
00:42:09
Nicole Shine
Depending on what we, you might be surprised about some of my Tool takes on some other albums. But um
00:42:15
Conor
Yeah.
00:42:17
Nicole Shine
this album is, i mean, it's perfect. Just about, of course it holds up. As a Tool fan, I mean, I'm contractually obligated to say that. I mean, especially this one, which is a lot of people's favorite.
00:42:33
Nicole Shine
um it's not my favorite um we will get to my favorite one day probably um it's i want to do it because it was the one that got me into them um um but it i mean come on this album is amazing so yeah
00:42:38
Conor
Oh, yeah.
00:42:43
Conor
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:42:52
Conor
um I said also yes. Even though like I'm not a big fan of the you know the interludes instrumentals.
00:43:03
Conor
I think it does hold up.
00:43:04
Nicole Shine
does hold
00:43:05
Conor
um Definitely through the musicianship just because man they're all fucking beasts.
00:43:12
Nicole Shine
Yeah, and you can, um he didn't really talk about this, but they changed people who don't know, we all know, Tool fans, but um they changed basses during recording of this album.
00:43:20
Conor
Yeah.
00:43:25
Conor
Okay.
00:43:26
Nicole Shine
So their old bassist, Paul D'Amour, who's in ministry now, by the way, um he wrote about four, think the first three and Push It, if I'm looking at Wikipedia correctly.
00:43:39
Conor
Oh, okay. Okay.
00:43:40
Nicole Shine
And then Justin came in and did, you know, worked on all the other songs and been has been with them ever since. um And you can...
00:43:52
Nicole Shine
you can kind of feel the difference between, um the Justin songs and the Paul songs, you know what mean, like, you can kind of feel the more experimental, you know what I mean, um, vibe change of the, the actual music just by changing out one person, oh yeah,
00:43:59
Conor
OK.
00:44:13
Conor
I can see that, yeah. OK. You want go over the, remind our listeners of the ranking
Album Ranking System Explained
00:44:21
Conor
scale?
00:44:21
Nicole Shine
Alright, so our ranking system. So we go based on skips. um Zero skips is no notes. Perfect album.
00:44:32
Nicole Shine
One skip is a mulligan. Everybody gets one. Even the most perfect album of one time. Maybe sometimes experiment just didn't work.
00:44:42
Conor
Yep.
00:44:42
Nicole Shine
You know, everybody, you know, what you gonna do.
00:44:43
Conor
It went left when it should have right. Yeah.
00:44:45
Nicole Shine
Yeah, or it just doesn't grab you as much or whatever.
00:44:49
Conor
Yeah.
00:44:49
Nicole Shine
um Two skips is a classic. Still good. Still better than 90% of albums. um
00:44:55
Conor
Yeah.
00:44:56
Nicole Shine
Three skips is good. Four skips is mid. Five skips, I always get these backwards, is trash.
00:45:05
Conor
Nope, it's an ass.
00:45:06
Nicole Shine
Oh, yeah I always get these backwards. Five skips is ass. No.
00:45:11
Conor
That's what you said.
00:45:11
Nicole Shine
Yeah, it's Yeah, five skips is ass.
00:45:12
Conor
Yep.
00:45:13
Nicole Shine
I'm sorry. Maybe I should have made them sound different. Like different words. But anyway. Five skips is ass.
00:45:18
Conor
yeah
00:45:20
Nicole Shine
And six plus skips is trash. Because come on. You skipping six or more songs on the album. Trash right. um And then.
00:45:28
Conor
That's basically half the album. Okay.
00:45:30
Nicole Shine
Yeah and for double albums. Just double the rating.
00:45:33
Conor
girl
00:45:34
Nicole Shine
um So I'll go first. thentooo
00:45:38
Conor
Yeah.
00:45:42
Nicole Shine
If we're not counting interludes.
00:45:45
Nicole Shine
This is, even with H included, because like I said, I still listen to H, just not really in my car. going to have to give it a and ah no notes.
00:45:57
Nicole Shine
It's going, I'm not a surprise, surprise. um If we're not counting interludes, it's a no notes. We count interludes, it's a whole different story. But I don't count interludes, especially if they're under a minute or only a minute.
00:46:04
Conor
Right.
00:46:09
Nicole Shine
um Yeah, it's it's a no notes for me.
00:46:14
Conor
Okay. Yeah, I'm glad you like said that caveat because I was i wrote that in my you know album ranking because if we're including you know the interlude intermission tracks, I'd be skipping five songs and it would have been ass.
00:46:31
Nicole Shine
Which is blasphemy.
00:46:33
Conor
yeah I know, I know. Well, come at me. That's fine. um But it that's it.
00:46:38
Nicole Shine
We have to get a divorce. That's it.
00:46:41
Conor
We're done.
00:46:42
Nicole Shine
Done!
00:46:43
Conor
um but yeah if we're not including the interlude intermissions i would probably give it a mulligan on one skip um um i think it's either jimmy or h i kind of yeah go in between those two so um but yeah um let's see
00:46:53
Nicole Shine
okay which year was your one yeah yeah no
00:47:10
Conor
Yeah, it's funny because I was kind of explaining the whole thing of if we were going to include the intermission.
00:47:15
Nicole Shine
yeah you're like don't come after me
00:47:18
Conor
no like, yeah, right.
00:47:18
Nicole Shine
i come back
00:47:20
Conor
i was like, you know, I don't have any skips on the actual songs, but yeah.
00:47:26
Nicole Shine
ah Yeah, like, um I think, and that's for anybody. I mean, we talked about this with other albums that had, you know, interludes before. I don't really um count them as songs unless they're instrumentals.
00:47:42
Nicole Shine
Now, I feel like an instrumental an interlude are two different things.
00:47:44
Conor
That's a song. Yeah. Yeah.
00:47:48
Nicole Shine
An instrumental is a song without, just without lyrics. Whereas the interlude is just like a little snippet of sound or some sounds.
00:47:56
Conor
That's true.
00:47:57
Nicole Shine
That's just a buffer in between the song.
00:47:59
Conor
Yeah.
00:48:00
Nicole Shine
Um, and the more we get into albums we do after from, it from here, from here out is they, they love it.
00:48:06
Conor
The more you'll understand, listeners. Yeah.
00:48:11
Nicole Shine
And they love it. interlude I'm like, every song does not need to interlude. They love it.
00:48:16
Conor
Maynard's like, yes.
00:48:16
Nicole Shine
They, they love interlude. Um, But yeah, um this, I'll do my little ranking real really quick of of albums.
00:48:28
Nicole Shine
um
00:48:29
Conor
Okay.
00:48:30
Nicole Shine
So this is not my, I would say my favorite Tool album is also my favorite album, period, of all time.
00:48:42
Nicole Shine
And that is Lateralist.
00:48:42
Conor
Hmm.
00:48:45
Nicole Shine
Lateralist is my favorite album. Um, and we'll get there. I guess I, I have spoiled the, when we do the Lateralist episode, but it's not, if you know me, anybody who knows me knows that's my favorite album.
00:48:55
Conor
Yeah.
00:48:59
Nicole Shine
Um, I'm not quiet about it.
00:49:00
Conor
Yeah.
00:49:01
Nicole Shine
Um, that's the album where I will listen to the, there are many interludes. Cause i feel like the interludes are actually good on there. But, um, um, so that would be the the top.
00:49:15
Nicole Shine
Um, I would probably put this as two. Yeah, this would be two.
00:49:27
Nicole Shine
hmm. 10,000 Days
00:49:30
Conor
Yeah.
00:49:35
Nicole Shine
That's a hard one. um I would probably put Undertow over. since so i Okay, so I would go Lateralis, Anima, Undertow, 10,000 Days, um and then Fear Inoculum.
00:49:53
Conor
um yeah
00:49:53
Nicole Shine
And then Opiate, if we're, even though it's the EP, Under Fear Inoculum. Yeah, I think that's my ranking. So...
00:50:02
Conor
I figured that would be probably your ranking.
00:50:04
Nicole Shine
Yeah, so in case you're wondering, case you care.
00:50:04
Conor
Yeah. case you're wondering.
00:50:08
Nicole Shine
But anyway, so that is our breaking the tool seal.
00:50:09
Conor
All right. Exactly.
00:50:15
Nicole Shine
um Sorry, we didn't do a movie this weekend. It was Father's Day, and we wanted to chill.
00:50:20
Conor
Exactly.
00:50:21
Nicole Shine
So we're just going to have to forgive us for that one. We'll be back this weekend with the movie we promised. um And next week will be a pick from Connor.
00:50:33
Conor
Yeah. So if you, if this week's album sounds like, you know, something you'd be interested in or if you want to revisit it, you know, definitely give it a listen.
00:50:34
Nicole Shine
seeing
00:50:42
Nicole Shine
Please, please, please check it out.
00:50:44
Conor
Re-listen it, you know.
00:50:46
Nicole Shine
Unless you want to be a hater. Because let me say something, school fans, we have to deal with that a lot, don't we? Um.
00:50:54
Conor
I got a soapbox.
00:50:54
Nicole Shine
i so ah no I told people I stopped arguing about Tula a long time ago. um The work speaks for itself. They're a millionaire grown man. They don't need me.
00:51:05
Nicole Shine
Little old me defending them. And I'm just anybody at this point who wants to argue about them is just being a troll. So don't their opinion really doesn't mean a whole lot um so to me. So whatever. But yeah.
00:51:22
Nicole Shine
yeah But if you are want to hear a banger of an album, you like rock music, this is...
00:51:30
Conor
Do you think this would be good intro for people since they always yours I guess
00:51:34
Nicole Shine
Yeah, i think so. Yeah, i think it's the most... think Undertow was probably... Well, no. just I feel like this is just as accessible. I think this is ah the perfect opener um before we get into their super long...
00:51:44
Conor
Okay.
00:51:49
Conor
Yeah.
00:51:49
Nicole Shine
long song i wish they would go back to making about like six minute songs i hope you know they probably will never will but whatever um but this is because you know most people just don't have the attention span for it i do but you know um but yeah this is so a really good i feel like a really good starting point for people um
00:51:50
Conor
Novel.
00:52:05
Conor
Yeah.
00:52:13
Nicole Shine
check it out and if you like it check out more of their albums and um we will see you guys next uh this weekend thank bye
00:52:20
Conor
Yep. See you.