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Faith No More Angel Dust

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Introduction and Episode Focus

00:00:31
Nicole Shine
Hello.
00:00:32
Conor
Hey everyone, welcome back to Glenwood's Music Club, where each week we pick an album, Legendary or Obscure, Loved or Not, and review it. In this episode, we're reviewing another one of my choices, Faith No More's Angel Dust.
00:00:48
Conor
um Faith No More, before we get into it, Faith No More is like my band, like Tool and Radiohead are Nicki's bands. They're just like so ahead of their time and very much underrated.
00:01:02
Conor
in my opinion. And kind of funny, the way it irks Nikki when people say creep when asked if they know Radiohead, I'm that way when people say Epic when asked if they know Fade No More.
00:01:13
Nicole Shine
Yeah.

Faith No More's Musical Shift and Themes

00:01:15
Conor
Like, it's, Epic was a good song, but yeah it irks me in the same like volume as nikki does with like creeping radiohead oh so all right uh angel thus released june 8th 1992 it's faith no more's second studio album it was produced by matt wallace and the band recorded in co Coast Recorders and Brilliant Studios in San Francisco, California.
00:01:49
Conor
um So following the success of The Real Thing, the band decided not to play it safe and instead took a different musical direction.
00:01:51
Nicole Shine
Paul the best of real things. The band decided not to play a stage and instead different musical directions. This musical direction is also the major difference by the conclusion of Black Cat in writing process as opposed to the Bradley where he was involved in writing for American state and local melodies because the normally did all the instrumental music before he joined.
00:01:59
Conor
This new musical direction was also heavily influenced by the inclusion of Mike Patton in the writing process as opposed to The Real Thing. where he was only involved in writing the lyrics and vocal melodies because the band had already written all the instrumental music before he joined.
00:02:18
Conor
um Angel Dust is a deliberate, dark, and satirical deconstruction of fame in American pop culture. The title, as chosen by the keyboardist Roddy Bottom, hilarious name, but it's actually his name, stated that he chose the name because it Summed up what

Critical Reception and Influence

00:02:37
Conor
they did perfectly and that it's a really beautiful name for really hilarious Hideous drug not hilarious hideous drug and that should make people think Similarly the artwork contrasted one beautiful image with a gruesome one um On the front cover was the beautiful image then on the back cover was the gruesome one Suggesting its combination of being really aggressive and disturbing and then really soothing
00:02:48
Nicole Shine
them
00:03:06
Conor
um, the beautiful with the sick. So angel dust is widely celebrated as genre bending alternative metal masterpiece.
00:03:17
Conor
Though initially polarizing

Personal Reflections on Faith No More

00:03:18
Conor
due to its uncommercial experimental nature, it later garnered immense critical acclaim, massive influence on the new metal movement and significant legacy awards.
00:03:30
Conor
So babe, how did you find out about this album? Did you discover it yourself or did someone introduce it to you?
00:03:37
Nicole Shine
Um, you did.
00:03:38
Conor
Yeah.
00:03:40
Nicole Shine
Um, I was not, like, you're gonna be mad, but, yeah, I was one those people that really knew Epic.
00:03:48
Conor
Yeah.
00:03:48
Nicole Shine
Um, and I did know their, like, cover Easy that's on this one.
00:03:54
Conor
yeah
00:03:54
Nicole Shine
Those are probably, like, the two, um, there's another one on here, we'll get to it, that I think I heard before you introduced me to it, but, um,
00:04:03
Conor
OK.
00:04:06
Nicole Shine
Yeah, that was really all I knew. um i have, I've of course heard about Mikey Patton because you can't not, but um it's funny.
00:04:14
Conor
Yeah.
00:04:16
Nicole Shine
I have another friend, and you know, that is, that's crazy about Faith No More.
00:04:19
Conor
Yep. Yep.
00:04:20
Nicole Shine
And i was talking to this one guy um who's a 12 fan like me, and we were talking about Faith No More fans. And we were we made a funny comment, like, we never, like, you never meet a, like,
00:04:36
Nicole Shine
a uh passive faith no more fan like you never meet like a casual faith no more fan like people either are not into faithful more they're like really really really into faith no more like there's no in between um i always found that interesting
00:04:42
Conor
Yeah.
00:04:47
Conor
Yeah. Yep.
00:04:53
Conor
Is that kind of like, I kind of feel like that's how it is with tool too, you know?
00:04:58
Nicole Shine
for the most part there's some cat there's some casual tool listeners um you know what i mean like they know the they know the radio songs um you know those are those are the people that go to concerts and get mad because they don't play the radio songs or whatever but um um die hard yeah there are some um which i'm sure there's some casual face no more fans i guess i've just never met them
00:05:03
Conor
Oh.
00:05:08
Conor
Yeah, that's true.
00:05:13
Conor
Yeah, that's true. I've only met the people that are like diehard or they're like, nah, I don't fuck with that. Yeah.
00:05:27
Conor
I know. Right. For real, real. Um, yeah. So I was introduced to Faith No More through their first album. Um, real thing. And yeah, i was a casual fan, but like, um,
00:05:42
Conor
Back then, like, even if I was a casual fan of a band, I would still, like, you know, check out their new albums when they came out. Just because I was a lot more active in looking for music when I was younger, you know, as opposed to now.
00:05:55
Conor
Maybe that's just a side effect of

Track Analysis: Part 1

00:05:57
Conor
getting older. I don't know. But, um...
00:05:59
Nicole Shine
yeah oh I also have a friend that played with one of their ex-singers. I'm not going to name drop or him on this, but you know who I'm talking about.
00:06:11
Conor
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:06:12
Nicole Shine
so i yeah I have a friend who who knew him um pretty well.
00:06:13
Conor
Their previous singer, Chuck Mosley. Yeah.
00:06:20
Nicole Shine
so
00:06:20
Conor
Yeah. No, that's awesome, man. I was like, when I heard that, I was like, oh my God, that's fucking cool.
00:06:26
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:06:26
Conor
um But yeah, I was a casual fan and then Angel Dust came out and
00:06:27
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:06:32
Conor
I was just like, holy shit, I'm totally on board now. Like that, it just blew me away. um So, all right, let's get into the tracks.
00:06:43
Conor
Land of Sunshine, a satirical funk-driven track inspired by late night infomercials, Scientology ads, and the superficial pursuit of happiness. Thoughts on Land of Sunshine.
00:06:56
Nicole Shine
um so this is the first one i've had the right notes on because i'm way not as familiar as connor which i was wanting you know wanted to challenge myself in and do one i wasn't that familiar with but um my notes for this one were um good good opener good voice
00:07:04
Conor
yeah
00:07:14
Conor
yeah yeah i agree like i said basically the same thing uh good opener um i love what he does with his voice like he speaks in like information infomercial vocals you know um so yeah good opener all right caffeine written during a sleep deprivation experiment the song features fragmented surreal lyrics reflecting madness and agitation thoughts on caffeine
00:07:44
Nicole Shine
um i thought it was good i think i said however i did start to feel the length of the song don't know why like
00:07:52
Conor
oh
00:07:53
Nicole Shine
as it went on, the song kind of felt longer than it was. And as a Tool fan, know you like shut the fuck up. But like, um yeah, it it, you know, I like the song, but it seemed like a lot longer for some reason than it actually was. i don't know why. That's what I put as my note for that one.
00:08:10
Conor
Oh, okay. roald Fair enough. Yeah, I put rock and song. um I love how Patton goes from like singing to whispering to screaming. And that's like a definite staple of his vocal stylings. Like he just sometimes goes all over the place or focuses on one style singing.
00:08:29
Conor
But yeah, next song, Midlife Crisis. Mike Patton wrote this song after being bombarded by images of Madonna in the media, describing it as a song about someone trying desperately to maintain their fame and relevance.
00:08:45
Conor
Thoughts on Midlife Crisis.
00:08:48
Nicole Shine
I put don't like very mid. Why is this a single?
00:08:52
Conor
Oh, wow.
00:08:53
Nicole Shine
um
00:08:53
Conor
I thought you were gonna do the, this is the hit single song. but
00:08:57
Nicole Shine
No,

Track Analysis: Part 2

00:08:58
Nicole Shine
I have that.
00:09:00
Conor
as For something else?
00:09:01
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:09:02
Conor
Okay.
00:09:02
Nicole Shine
But um yeah, when i I didn't know this was a single, so i was like looking up, you know, some yeah stuff about the album.
00:09:10
Conor
Yeah.
00:09:12
Nicole Shine
And I was like, I don't like the song. And I was like, why was this a single? I was like, no wonder I didn't get into them. I'm like, they released the like worst song on here.
00:09:24
Conor
Damn. The worst song on here?
00:09:30
Conor
Yeah, it's like, yeah.
00:09:32
Nicole Shine
it's It's actually, there's another, what we'll get there. But yeah, like I did not like this song at all. And it, I don't know why it wasn't like horrible. I just didn't. Like I i listened to it.
00:09:45
Nicole Shine
Um, I listened to it yesterday. i listened to it today. listened to it in the car. And there are some songs that I thought I didn't like when I heard them in the car. I was like, oh, shit.
00:09:54
Conor
Yeah.
00:09:55
Nicole Shine
But this, the car did not help this song. I don't like it on a train.
00:09:58
Conor
No matter where you want to.
00:10:01
Nicole Shine
I do not like it on a plane.
00:10:02
Conor
ah yeah green eggs and ham i was thinking the same thing but yeah it's you know the hit single or at least the one they played the most in my recollection um i loved the song when it came out but the overplay has lessened my love of it um still good just don't love it as much that was my thoughts on it um
00:10:03
Nicole Shine
i But, yeah. came out.
00:10:25
Conor
All right, so next song, RV, a dark theatrical track detailing the bleak, trapped reality of a suburban midlife existence. Thoughts on RV?
00:10:37
Nicole Shine
This is the other one I don't like It's it a lot like last week with the Benz The two songs that I like the least Are back to back I mean it gets
00:10:39
Conor
Really?
00:10:45
Conor
oh okay.
00:10:47
Nicole Shine
That should be a good thing, because that means that i you know, I feel better about the rest of the album, but yeah, e neither one of these songs I really like.
00:10:50
Conor
Yeah. Yeah.
00:10:57
Nicole Shine
I think I might actually almost like Arvie a little bit less.
00:11:02
Conor
Oh, okay.
00:11:03
Nicole Shine
um i can't i can't decide, but yeah, i don't I don't like this song at all either.
00:11:09
Conor
Okay. Yeah, I just, I put it as a good song. I just always laughed at the song because of the silliness of the music and the subject matter. You know, it's not, it's not going to be my first pick on the album, honestly.
00:11:23
Conor
And there's plenty times that I was like, skipped it, you know, I'll, yeah.
00:11:23
Nicole Shine
and
00:11:26
Nicole Shine
yeah like There's songs on here that have funny subject matter that are better than this. i don't even think it's the subject matter. who I don't like it. I think I just don't like it.
00:11:39
Conor
Um, next song, smaller and smaller, a heavy tribal sounding song that serves as an algo allegory for oppression, corporate greed, and the gradual wiping out of culture and habitats thoughts on smaller and smaller.
00:11:55
Nicole Shine
Now this one is more like it. I really like this song. Yeah.
00:11:59
Conor
Yeah.
00:11:59
Nicole Shine
I really like this one. This is a really good one. Yeah.
00:12:03
Conor
Yeah. Like it's funny.
00:12:04
Nicole Shine
funny.
00:12:05
Conor
Cause back in the day, like i
00:12:05
Nicole Shine
in like, wasn't really drawn to this song.
00:12:07
Conor
wasn't really drawn to this song but as i've gotten older like this song is one of my favorites on this album um great song and um it has a haunting feel to it but it's just so rocking so all right next song everything's ruined explores the feeling of losing one's innocence and the irreversible changes that come with success or adulthood thoughts on everything's ruined
00:12:08
Nicole Shine
But a professional like, this song is of my great song. And, um, it funky feel to it.
00:12:19
Nicole Shine
But it's just so Mm-hmm.
00:12:36
Nicole Shine
um i put on my note i said almost didn't like it but i got better the more it went on like at first when i like the first like minute or so the song i was like i don't know if i like this one but i enjoyed it more the the song went on that makes sense yeah
00:12:42
Conor
Really?
00:12:52
Conor
Okay. Yeah, yeah, totally. um I'm very different on this one. I love this song.
00:12:58
Nicole Shine
i'm song it's a good song yeah yeah yeah
00:12:59
Conor
I think it's such a great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, I mean, like, as a whole, like you said you kind of had to listen to it more and more and you're like, all right, it gets better, you know?
00:13:05
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:10
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:11
Conor
But yeah, it actually might be um one of my favorite fake no more songs of all time.
00:13:17
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:13:18
Conor
Yeah. right. Next one is malpractice, a chaotic abrasive song about greed, paranoia and mental deterioration thoughts on malpractice.
00:13:31
Nicole Shine
I put this song fucks, especially in the car. i love this fucking song.
00:13:35
Conor
Yeah.
00:13:35
Nicole Shine
I think it's so good. Like, I love this fucking song. I think it's really, really good. I added it to my playlist. You know, for me to add a song to the playlist, it's good.
00:13:43
Conor
Damn. All right. That's awesome.
00:13:46
Nicole Shine
Yeah.

Track Analysis: Part 3

00:13:47
Conor
I, um, I put, this is going to good. Cause this is a throwback to one of my other albums we went through. Um, I feel like this is what we'll play after black Sabbath, black Sabbath for Cthulhu emerging from the death.
00:13:57
Nicole Shine
Oh,
00:13:59
Nicole Shine
the Cthulhu.
00:14:00
Conor
This is like the hymn.
00:14:02
Nicole Shine
It's like the encore.
00:14:04
Conor
No, this is like the hymn destroying things part, you know, song that they play.
00:14:04
Nicole Shine
Yeah. oh Yeah,
00:14:08
Conor
Um, but yeah, it's just a, Really rocking song. And again, Patton showcasing his voice.
00:14:15
Nicole Shine
it's thong fucks, dude.
00:14:16
Conor
Just so good. So good. Yeah. Damn, fucks. All right. Sweet. Next song is called Kindergarten. A cynical critique of how the innocence of youth is quickly corrupted by societal structures. Thoughts on Kindergarten?
00:14:34
Nicole Shine
I just put that it was good, and I put a note like it almost sounded like it started over in the middle.
00:14:40
Conor
Oh, okay.
00:14:40
Nicole Shine
Like, it's a part in the middle where you think the song's over, and it almost sounds like it just restarted from the beginning again. It's weird. I don't know if you ever caught that, but...
00:14:49
Conor
Okay, yeah, going to have to listen that again.
00:14:50
Nicole Shine
Maybe with me not being a a, like a, you know, Faith No More head, I don't know what fans call themselves, but...
00:14:56
Conor
Yeah, yeah.
00:14:59
Nicole Shine
so But yeah, i was like, did the song stop? And then it started over. I said, did I press, ah you know, did I accidentally restart the song?
00:15:05
Conor
yeah You're like questioning yourself and shit.
00:15:09
Nicole Shine
But no, I looked at the timestamp on the song, and I was like, no, that song is just does that. was like, OK. Yeah.
00:15:15
Conor
Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll have to listen that again. um Yeah, I just put um good driving at night with the windows down song. i just I've done that before with this song.
00:15:27
Conor
It's just a really good. It rocks and has a very like chill vibe to it, which sounds weird, but yeah, that's how it feels.
00:15:34
Nicole Shine
Alright, next song.
00:15:36
Conor
All right, next song, Be Aggressive. Written by keyboardist Roddy Bottom, this song uses cheerleading chants to address themes of B&M, sexual dominance, and the queer subculture.
00:15:48
Conor
thoughts on be aggressive oh okay yeah
00:15:51
Nicole Shine
I put that it's good. I said this was one I think I was familiar with before you, you know, listen to this album with you.
00:16:01
Nicole Shine
um For the first time, I feel like I definitely feel like I've heard this song before. you know, listen to the whole, you know, before, like back in the back days, like for some reason, I don't know, but I feel like I've definitely heard this song before.
00:16:11
Conor
okay yeah
00:16:18
Nicole Shine
It's a good song. Yeah. I think it's the lyrics are funny.
00:16:21
Conor
Oh yeah, same here.
00:16:22
Nicole Shine
So.
00:16:23
Conor
Yeah. I just put hilarious song, especially when knowing what the subject matter is about. um I like read an interview where Roddy was talking about the song and writing it.
00:16:34
Conor
And he was like, I just got a kick out of seeing Mike Patton perform every night in front of people saying, i swallow, I swallow, I swallow.
00:16:42
Nicole Shine
isn
00:16:43
Conor
ah thought that was funny as shit. um Next song, A Small Victory. combines a european dance pop rhythm with themes about relentless ambition and fighting one's way to the top only to realize the prize feels hollow thoughts on a small victory
00:16:49
Nicole Shine
here
00:17:01
Nicole Shine
Didn't have too much to say about this one. I just said it was good and that his voice was good on it
00:17:06
Conor
oh okay this one's actually like their think it might have been their second single from the album um yeah i actually i think it's a great song i really like it um
00:17:07
Nicole Shine
this one's back
00:17:19
Conor
I kind of, yeah, I like this one more than Midlife Crisis.
00:17:23
Nicole Shine
Oh, yeah.
00:17:24
Conor
Yeah.
00:17:24
Nicole Shine
Oh, yeah. Well, I like everything better than this. But yeah.
00:17:27
Conor
ah
00:17:29
Nicole Shine
but yeah
00:17:30
Conor
But yeah, it's it's a good one for sure. um Yeah. All right. Next song, Crack Hitler. A darkly satirical track about a deluded drug kingpin who compared himself to Hitler.
00:17:43
Conor
Thoughts on Crack Hitler.
00:17:46
Nicole Shine
I put okay. I put this chanting saved it for me. Like the chanting parts.
00:17:51
Conor
oh okay yeah
00:17:52
Nicole Shine
um Because it it was almost leaning into like, do I like this song? But I feel like those parts kind of made it interest interesting and kind of saved the song for me.
00:18:02
Conor
okay nice i put bring that funk baby and i was like papa was a rolling stone kind of made me think of that a little bit um yeah good song um patting on the megaphone i thought was cool just you know adding different elements to his
00:18:02
Nicole Shine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:06
Nicole Shine
Yeah. The song.
00:18:21
Conor
who's singing on different songs and stuff.
00:18:23
Nicole Shine
Yeah, the the song, like, the it didn't get, like, that's I think that's what saved the song for me. It didn't get, like, samey, samey, kind of, like, changed up, you know.
00:18:35
Conor
Yeah, he's he's really big on that. um And that might be why he does it. I don't know, just to not be like, you know, copy paste or whatever.
00:18:45
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:18:45
Conor
But yeah, he's not afraid to experiment. I will give that to him for sure. All right, next song, Jizzlobber.
00:18:54
Nicole Shine
The funniest title ever. for
00:18:56
Conor
Right. A heavy, sludgy track dealing with paranoia, claustrophobia, and a descent into psychological madness. Thoughts on Jizzlobber?
00:19:06
Nicole Shine
Um, this song also fucks.
00:19:08
Conor
Yeah.
00:19:08
Nicole Shine
I just put that it's really good.
00:19:11
Conor
Right.
00:19:11
Nicole Shine
Like, I think I like Heavy Faith No More. i don't know. You know, of course, I'm not that familiar with their stuff, so I don't know if their stuff gets heavy. We'll get to that in the other question.
00:19:20
Conor
Yeah.
00:19:21
Nicole Shine
But, um, I feel like I enjoy the heavier Faith No More.
00:19:28
Conor
More than the like melodic stuff or.
00:19:30
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:19:31
Conor
OK.
00:19:31
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:19:32
Conor
No, that'll be interesting once we you know do other albums.
00:19:35
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:19:36
Conor
See what your opinion is on those other album songs.
00:19:37
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:19:40
Conor
um My thoughts are i really love this intro. It's like a really scary horror movie intro, you know. Great song, and the ending is just as creepy as the intro.
00:19:51
Conor
And I said, might have to add to our Halloween

Favorite Tracks Discussion

00:19:54
Conor
playlist. You know?
00:19:55
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:19:56
Conor
i think that'd be awesome. All right. Next song is Midnight Cowboy, themed from. An instrumental cover of the Haunting Iconic theme song by John Barry, chosen by the band for its atmospheric mood.
00:20:10
Conor
Thoughts on their cover?
00:20:13
Nicole Shine
ah good I put good instrumental.
00:20:15
Conor
Yeah.
00:20:15
Nicole Shine
And it sounds like the song from Black Mirror. So if anybody has watched like multiple seasons of Black Mirror, they'll know exactly what song I'm talking about.
00:20:19
Conor
Yeah.
00:20:26
Nicole Shine
But there's a song that it's like Black Mirror is like in a shared universe. um And there's a song and that's the same song and it's in the several different episodes.
00:20:31
Conor
Yeah.
00:20:37
Nicole Shine
of the show and it sounds as the music from that sounds exactly like i have i might have to find it to play for you but it sounds almost exactly like that song the musically i mean and that song has lyrics but it the music is almost exactly the same it's really funny
00:20:47
Conor
Yeah. yeah
00:20:54
Conor
Yeah, no, I get what you're saying for sure. um Yeah.
00:20:58
Nicole Shine
where i wonder if they're like based you know what i mean yeah
00:21:01
Conor
Yeah. um I put, it was a cool instrumental cover. I thought it was a nice chill way to end the album, but earlier you said you talked about easy.
00:21:15
Conor
Did you listen to version of the album where that's at the end?
00:21:18
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:21:19
Conor
oh okay. So side note, um, The last song was Midnight Cowboy, but I think in later versions of the album, they just added easy.
00:21:28
Nicole Shine
Yeah, it said extra track or whatever, because I was going to do my my radio song.
00:21:31
Conor
Okay, cool.
00:21:33
Nicole Shine
You stepped on my radio song. I'm sorry.
00:21:35
Conor
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
00:21:37
Nicole Shine
This is the radio. I gotta do another song.
00:21:38
Conor
Do it. Next song. No, you can do it. Next song is easy. Give us a song.
00:21:43
Nicole Shine
This is the radio song. It's the song from the radio.
00:21:47
Conor
Ooh.
00:21:49
Nicole Shine
It's the second song that you say when people ask if you like the band. Because the first one is epic. okay
00:21:59
Conor
Oh, yeah.
00:22:00
Nicole Shine
Okay. You know people who aren't in Faithful More, they're like, oh yeah, epic. And I feel like this is the second one. Like, if if if you say Epic, because I've heard, I've seen this video and heard this cover a but whole bunch of times.
00:22:06
Conor
Really?
00:22:16
Conor
i didn't really. yeah I can't say the same. i haven't heard.
00:22:21
Nicole Shine
Yeah, like, almost like, I feel like I had this song in my library somewhere, their cover. um And I'm like, I feel like I've heard, of course, Epic the most, and I feel like this is the one I've heard from them the second most.
00:22:35
Conor
Okay. I mean, it is a cover of a great song, I think.
00:22:35
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:22:41
Conor
What are your thoughts on this cover?
00:22:44
Nicole Shine
no it's good his voice is really really good honest so I like that like I said I think it's in my library somewhere I'm pretty sure it is so yeah you have oh yeah you have yeah
00:22:46
Conor
Yeah, yeah.
00:22:52
Conor
Yeah. I actually, like, I've done this song a few times on karaoke at different places throughout my life. Yep. yep It's so good.
00:23:04
Conor
And then I love how he, his version of like, ew, like he stepped in some shit as opposed to the real smooth, you know?
00:23:14
Nicole Shine
Yeah, you know what i like? That um when we watched that concert of theirs, um that one concert video of theirs, and they opened with the Peaches and Herb.
00:23:15
Conor
What?
00:23:23
Conor
Yeah.
00:23:26
Nicole Shine
I thought that was really, yeah, i thought that was really fucking funny.
00:23:26
Conor
The reunited. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:30
Nicole Shine
but um yeah.
00:23:30
Conor
It's, it's so good.
00:23:30
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:23:32
Conor
That's why like, oh man. I had a chance to see them like what a couple of years ago and then they canceled and I was so excited. i had like the biggest geek boner, you know, and then they had to cancel and I was like, man, it's kind of like with you and like Bajas or, you know, any other man, like you're so excited and then it is finally going happen.
00:23:51
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:23:56
Conor
Then they cancel and you're like, oh, fuck.
00:23:57
Nicole Shine
Yeah, that pissed me off so bad.
00:23:59
Conor
But side note, I think they are going to be touring in 2027.
00:24:02
Nicole Shine
Yeah, saw that.
00:24:03
Conor
So,
00:24:04
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:24:04
Conor
may have to make a trip somewhere just saying all right of favorite and least favorite songs let's do favorites what's your favorite
00:24:13
Nicole Shine
So, favorite first.
00:24:18
Nicole Shine
So, I think you probably are going to be able to guess. Could you could you guess which one my favorite is?
00:24:25
Conor
the which one did you say before um oh malpractice yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:24:31
Nicole Shine
Yeah. you
00:24:33
Conor
yep
00:24:34
Nicole Shine
Yeah, I like that one a lot. It was almost my... Um, cause you know, was listening to the album in order.
00:24:40
Conor
Yeah.
00:24:40
Nicole Shine
It was almost smaller and smaller. So I heard her malpractice.
00:24:44
Conor
Yeah.
00:24:44
Nicole Shine
And then I was her malpractice. was like, no, this, this is, this is the one.
00:24:47
Conor
no this one.
00:24:49
Nicole Shine
And then heard just labber.
00:24:49
Conor
This one.
00:24:51
Nicole Shine
And I was like, this one's really good too, but I like malpractice better.

Overall Impressions and Album Ranking

00:24:54
Nicole Shine
So, um, yeah, it's malpractice.
00:24:54
Conor
Yeah.
00:24:57
Conor
Right on. um Mine's my favorite. Everything's ruined. I just love that song so much.
00:25:03
Nicole Shine
Um,
00:25:04
Conor
That one hits hits me for sure. All right.
00:25:07
Nicole Shine
funny that it's in between the two songs that I like the most.
00:25:10
Conor
I know, right? Yeah. Just sandwiched perfectly. All right. So, least favorite song.
00:25:22
Conor
Okay. Yeah.
00:25:23
Nicole Shine
It was a tie between, it was really a tie between Midlife Crisis and RV. um But it's probably RV. Probably RV.
00:25:32
Conor
Probably every... Wow. Okay.
00:25:34
Nicole Shine
Probably RV, yeah.
00:25:34
Conor
All right. I mean, it's a really, like... slow and kind of I don't know just didn't work yeah yeah yeah yeah
00:25:40
Nicole Shine
it just It just didn't he just didn't work for me. Midlife Crisis I didn't like, and I think it got more smoke because it was a single, and I couldn't understand that decision. But...
00:25:54
Nicole Shine
I'm like, at least RV wasn't a single.
00:25:57
Conor
yeah that would have yeah that would not have been a good move yeah
00:25:59
Nicole Shine
I mean, it wouldn't have been, but yeah, like...
00:26:04
Conor
um My least favorite is probably Crack Hitler. i
00:26:08
Nicole Shine
No, really?
00:26:09
Conor
Yeah, I just, meh.
00:26:11
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:26:11
Conor
ah you
00:26:12
Nicole Shine
I mean, it it's like I said, it's a man. the it at They at least kept it interesting. We kept it from being like.
00:26:17
Conor
Yeah, it's a good song.
00:26:17
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:26:19
Conor
I just, if I'm being honest, like if I listen to this album, I usually yeah skip that one. you know Yeah, I do, actually.
00:26:25
Nicole Shine
Yeah. like RV more than that.
00:26:29
Conor
yeah
00:26:29
Nicole Shine
Okay.
00:26:32
Conor
I'm not going lie about it.
00:26:32
Nicole Shine
All right. You know, I got got all the smoke for RV.
00:26:33
Conor
Yeah, I know.
00:26:34
Nicole Shine
All right.
00:26:34
Conor
I know you do. All right. So if you had never heard of the band and, um you know, this was your first introduction to them through this album, would it make you want to hear more from them?
00:26:50
Nicole Shine
um when I first let my first listen through I was like you know it makes me want to listen to more Mike Patton I was you know what I mean because I know he has a bunch of different side projects and I was like I like his ah you know he has a really good voice I mean everybody always you know that's not a hot take
00:27:01
Conor
Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah.
00:27:11
Nicole Shine
I was like, he has a really good voice, and I'm curious to see what his other bands do. I don't know, you know, about Faith and More. And then once I listened to it a couple more times, I was like, you know, i would be willing to give them, give another album a, um after this, a listen to see what direction it goes.
00:27:37
Conor
OK, yeah.
00:27:37
Nicole Shine
If it goes more in the direction of the songs I like. you know, I'd be willing to dig in more. And if it goes more in the directions of the songs I don't like, probably not.
00:27:49
Conor
OK.
00:27:51
Nicole Shine
um It just, ah it just depends.
00:27:51
Conor
Probably not. Yeah.
00:27:53
Nicole Shine
I would, I would at least give, i would at least do another album just to see what, like it would pique my curiosity enough to check out another album.
00:27:54
Conor
Yeah.
00:28:00
Conor
Gotcha.
00:28:05
Conor
I'm automatically thinking of like two of their follow-up albums, like King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime. I think you'd really dig, but yeah, if if that was the next one you like listen to after this one, but if you listen to album of the year, I don't know.
00:28:23
Conor
Cause that one has a lot more, you know, kind of singy, you know, kind of stuff.
00:28:29
Nicole Shine
yeah i don't like i think i do like the harder edge stuff um i don't think i like um hippity hoppity face in the world
00:28:39
Conor
Yeah.
00:28:43
Nicole Shine
I don't think I like Wicked Fly Flow. Faith No More. um But I do like the the harder edge. And even some of the more experimental stuff I like.
00:28:55
Nicole Shine
I'm not mad But I really. ah like i really like their. It's almost like I feel like how. ah How Faith No More fans feel. About Faith No More.
00:29:06
Conor
Yeah.
00:29:06
Nicole Shine
About this album. Like the songs I really like. I really really like. in the song that i don't like I'm like meh you know what i mean
00:29:15
Conor
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Like their fandom. Yeah, they're really like or don't like them. um
00:29:24
Nicole Shine
yeah I mean yeah I mean
00:29:25
Conor
Yeah, I mean, obviously, i I'd look into it more.

Future Music Explorations and Fandom

00:29:30
Conor
Just because, like I said, when we're going through the intros, like, real thing was, I enjoyed it, but it was like, in my mind, it was kind of like a a B or C band, you know?
00:29:42
Conor
But then this album,
00:29:42
Nicole Shine
Naked Chili Pepper is like rip off almost.
00:29:46
Conor
A little bit, yeah. yeah um
00:29:48
Nicole Shine
And you know how feel about them.
00:29:50
Conor
I know, right? Oh, God. God forbid I ever do one of theirs. um But, um yeah, this album just, I feel like with the inclusion of like Mike Patton being able to add to the music as opposed to him just coming in after it was made, that really you know made them sore, so to speak.
00:30:10
Conor
you know um Because, yeah, like you said, the real thing. Like you said, the hip-hoppy. stuff like i feel like that wasn't him that was just he just came in you know the music was already written and shit but yeah all right so you want to go over the album ranking scale
00:30:16
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:30:22
Nicole Shine
even
00:30:31
Nicole Shine
Alright, album rankings. So we go based on skips. um Zero skips is a perfect album. um No notes.
00:30:40
Conor
no notes
00:30:42
Nicole Shine
um One skip is a mulligan. Everyone gets one. Sometimes, even on the most perfect of albums, there might be an experiment that just doesn't quite grab you while you're laughing.
00:30:54
Conor
I had an off they
00:30:56
Nicole Shine
they yeah I mean, you know, it happens.
00:30:56
Conor
well It happens.
00:30:58
Nicole Shine
But still pretty much a perfect album. um
00:31:00
Conor
Yep.
00:31:02
Nicole Shine
Two Skips is a classic album. Still 90 to 95% better than most albums you'll ever hear. Three is a good.
00:31:13
Nicole Shine
Four is a mid. Five is ass. And six plus is trash. And then for double albums, we just double it.
00:31:22
Conor
Yep. All right.
00:31:23
Nicole Shine
So.
00:31:23
Conor
So what is your ranking?
00:31:26
Nicole Shine
so based on my r ranking system but i'm going to give it a classic album yeah um it was a lot higher than what i originally thought don't kill me faith no more fans what i thought it was gonna be and let me let me just tell you i i came in here with
00:31:37
Conor
Nice. Right on.
00:31:51
Nicole Shine
not the smoke, but I came in here with, um because of that one friend that I have, you know i'm talking about, um they always trash talk to all the time, just to get under my skin and be a troll, so I was like, you know what, I'm coming here and loaded, I'm about to break, I'm about to lock and load it, and I'm about to hurt all these his little feelings, talking about his guy Patton, but um I was like, no, I am a honest music
00:31:57
Conor
Oh, no.
00:32:07
Conor
oh no
00:32:21
Nicole Shine
consumer aficionados so I'm going to say what I really feel um and besides the abomination of RV and midlife crisis I really like even the ones that didn't like weren't like oh you know it's fucks
00:32:38
Conor
Yeah.
00:32:38
Nicole Shine
I didn't mind. um
00:32:40
Conor
Okay.
00:32:40
Nicole Shine
Like, though, um you know, ah Crack Hitler, I mean, it was another one that was kind of like, eh, but I didn't really mind them. You know mean?
00:32:51
Conor
Okay. Yeah.
00:32:52
Nicole Shine
And then the songs, I think the songs that I really liked, i really, really liked. So that really brought up the a score for me.
00:33:03
Conor
Right on.
00:33:03
Nicole Shine
So, right.
00:33:04
Conor
Yeah, I was actually thinking you were just as we were going through the songs, I was like, oh, man, she might be giving it like a good or a mid. um
00:33:14
Nicole Shine
it could have been It could have been a good, because Crack Hitler is right on the edge for me a little bit.
00:33:14
Conor
But.
00:33:21
Conor
Yeah.
00:33:21
Nicole Shine
But I listened to it a couple of times. I'm like, I don't mind it that much. Not ever.
00:33:26
Conor
OK. Yeah, I'm glad you weren't coming in with, you know, a vendetta because of a.
00:33:32
Nicole Shine
yeah Yeah.
00:33:34
Conor
What's his name? You know, he who shall not be named opinion.
00:33:35
Nicole Shine
Yeah. Yeah.
00:33:39
Conor
So I appreciate that. Plus, I would have been like, come on, man, because I love him.
00:33:43
Nicole Shine
I know.
00:33:44
Conor
But no, I'm glad I want your honest opinion.
00:33:47
Nicole Shine
No, i'm ah um ah ah I'm going to give my honest opinion, whether good or bad on here.
00:33:48
Conor
That's the whole point of this. Yeah.
00:33:52
Nicole Shine
So, yeah.
00:33:52
Conor
Right. As it should be. Ditto. um All right. So, yeah, I gave it a mulligan just because crack Hitler.
00:33:57
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:34:02
Conor
Again, I said it when we're reviewing it. I, a lot of times I just skip that one.
00:34:08
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:34:08
Conor
You know, it's a good song. It's just, I have to be in the mood to want to listen to the whole album from start to end. So.
00:34:16
Nicole Shine
Yeah. And I was able to add, like, I think I added the three songs. I think I added smaller and smaller, mild practice, just live raw to my ah playlist.
00:34:25
Conor
Nice.
00:34:27
Nicole Shine
So, hey, you never know. I could... i could You know, you you let me know the one you think I'll like based on that information next. And maybe I'll, you might have a, you know.
00:34:40
Conor
Yeah.
00:34:40
Nicole Shine
i don't I don't think I'll ever be a diehard Faith No More. I might be the first casual Faith No More fan.
00:34:46
Conor
Oh my gosh. No, I just get a kick out of you having a song, Jizzlobber, in your playlist.
00:34:49
Nicole Shine
In this day.
00:34:53
Conor
It's just great.
00:34:54
Nicole Shine
I mean, I have heard. I have.
00:34:56
Conor
I mean, there's worse titles.
00:34:56
Nicole Shine
we My favorite band literally has a song called Hooker with a Penis.
00:35:01
Conor
Yeah, yeah.
00:35:01
Nicole Shine
in Oh, yeah.
00:35:04
Conor
Imagine that compilation album. Hooker with a penis.
00:35:07
Nicole Shine
Oh, God. Just love her. Stink fist.

Closing Remarks and Future Episodes

00:35:13
Nicole Shine
Alright, so we um will be back next time with a selection from me.
00:35:22
Conor
Yeah.
00:35:22
Nicole Shine
If I haven't started, I have no idea what we're going to do next. But um I might change it up. We might do something maybe a little more dancey. I like we've been doing a lot of rock. or you know um um Who knows?
00:35:34
Conor
Yeah, no, that'd be good.
00:35:38
Nicole Shine
Or maybe we'll do more rock. Who knows? Whatever I feel like. um and then this weekend we will be back with a movie um and next week again like i said a selection for me so thanks for hanging out with us what oh yeah
00:35:52
Conor
Yep. Oh, I got one more thing to say. um Just want to say, yeah, again, Mike Patton, one of my all-time favorite vocalists. just his versatility range and vocal style are amazing. Sorry, I'm geeking out.
00:36:10
Conor
um Humor me. um he His other side projects include Mr. Bungle, Fantomos, Tomahawk, Peeping Tom, Lovage, and Dead Cross. i've loved I've listened to the majority of them and i just Highly recommend checking them out just for the audience in case you didn't know.
00:36:30
Conor
So, and you, babe, you know, so, yeah
00:36:32
Nicole Shine
OK.
00:36:33
Conor
All right. End rant.
00:36:34
Nicole Shine
oh And I'm a stan. I love how I'm a Maynard and Tom York stan. Right? I get labeled, but okay. Anyway.
00:36:46
Conor
No, no, there's no smoke.
00:36:47
Nicole Shine
So...
00:36:49
Conor
Don't act like, you know, you're alone in that. I respect that. That's awesome.
00:36:53
Nicole Shine
So, anyway.
00:36:54
Conor
Yeah. Yeah.
00:36:55
Nicole Shine
We'll be back again, like I said, this weekend with the movie. Next week with one of my picks. And thank you for hanging out with us. We'll hear from us this weekend, maybe.
00:37:07
Nicole Shine
Kind of funny.
00:37:08
Conor
Yep. All right.
00:37:09
Nicole Shine
Alright, bye.
00:37:10
Conor
See you guys.