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Nicole Shine: Hello.
Conor: Hey everyone, welcome back to Glenwood's Music Club, where each week we pick an album, Legendary or Obscure, Loved or Not, and review it. In this episode, we're reviewing another one of my choices, Faith No More's Angel Dust.
Conor: um Faith No More, before we get into it, Faith No More is like my band, like Tool and Radiohead are Nicki's bands. They're just like so ahead of their time and very much underrated.
Conor: in my opinion. And kind of funny, the way it irks Nikki when people say creep when asked if they know Radiohead, I'm that way when people say Epic when asked if they know Fade No More.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: Like, it's, Epic was a good song, but yeah it irks me in the same like volume as nikki does with like creeping radiohead oh so all right uh angel thus released june 8th 1992 it's faith no more's second studio album it was produced by matt wallace and the band recorded in co Coast Recorders and Brilliant Studios in San Francisco, California.
Conor: um So following the success of The Real Thing, the band decided not to play it safe and instead took a different musical direction.
Nicole Shine: Paul the best of real things. The band decided not to play a stage and instead different musical directions. This musical direction is also the major difference by the conclusion of Black Cat in writing process as opposed to the Bradley where he was involved in writing for American state and local melodies because the normally did all the instrumental music before he joined.
Conor: This new musical direction was also heavily influenced by the inclusion of Mike Patton in the writing process as opposed to The Real Thing. where he was only involved in writing the lyrics and vocal melodies because the band had already written all the instrumental music before he joined.
Conor: um Angel Dust is a deliberate, dark, and satirical deconstruction of fame in American pop culture. The title, as chosen by the keyboardist Roddy Bottom, hilarious name, but it's actually his name, stated that he chose the name because it Summed up what they did perfectly and that it's a really beautiful name for really hilarious Hideous drug not hilarious hideous drug and that should make people think Similarly the artwork contrasted one beautiful image with a gruesome one um On the front cover was the beautiful image then on the back cover was the gruesome one Suggesting its combination of being really aggressive and disturbing and then really soothing
Nicole Shine: them
Conor: um, the beautiful with the sick. So angel dust is widely celebrated as genre bending alternative metal masterpiece.
Conor: Though initially polarizing due to its uncommercial experimental nature, it later garnered immense critical acclaim, massive influence on the new metal movement and significant legacy awards.
Conor: So babe, how did you find out about this album? Did you discover it yourself or did someone introduce it to you?
Nicole Shine: Um, you did.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: Um, I was not, like, you're gonna be mad, but, yeah, I was one those people that really knew Epic.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: Um, and I did know their, like, cover Easy that's on this one.
Conor: yeah
Nicole Shine: Those are probably, like, the two, um, there's another one on here, we'll get to it, that I think I heard before you introduced me to it, but, um,
Conor: OK.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, that was really all I knew. um i have, I've of course heard about Mikey Patton because you can't not, but um it's funny.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I have another friend, and you know, that is, that's crazy about Faith No More.
Conor: Yep. Yep.
Nicole Shine: And i was talking to this one guy um who's a 12 fan like me, and we were talking about Faith No More fans. And we were we made a funny comment, like, we never, like, you never meet a, like,
Nicole Shine: a uh passive faith no more fan like you never meet like a casual faith no more fan like people either are not into faithful more they're like really really really into faith no more like there's no in between um i always found that interesting
Conor: Yeah.
Conor: Yeah. Yep.
Conor: Is that kind of like, I kind of feel like that's how it is with tool too, you know?
Nicole Shine: for the most part there's some cat there's some casual tool listeners um you know what i mean like they know the they know the radio songs um you know those are those are the people that go to concerts and get mad because they don't play the radio songs or whatever but um um die hard yeah there are some um which i'm sure there's some casual face no more fans i guess i've just never met them
Conor: Oh.
Conor: Yeah, that's true.
Conor: Yeah, that's true. I've only met the people that are like diehard or they're like, nah, I don't fuck with that. Yeah.
Conor: I know. Right. For real, real. Um, yeah. So I was introduced to Faith No More through their first album. Um, real thing. And yeah, i was a casual fan, but like, um,
Conor: Back then, like, even if I was a casual fan of a band, I would still, like, you know, check out their new albums when they came out. Just because I was a lot more active in looking for music when I was younger, you know, as opposed to now.
Conor: Maybe that's just a side effect of getting older. I don't know. But, um...
Nicole Shine: yeah oh I also have a friend that played with one of their ex-singers. I'm not going to name drop or him on this, but you know who I'm talking about.
Conor: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nicole Shine: so i yeah I have a friend who who knew him um pretty well.
Conor: Their previous singer, Chuck Mosley. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: so
Conor: Yeah. No, that's awesome, man. I was like, when I heard that, I was like, oh my God, that's fucking cool.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: um But yeah, I was a casual fan and then Angel Dust came out and
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: I was just like, holy shit, I'm totally on board now. Like that, it just blew me away. um So, all right, let's get into the tracks.
Conor: Land of Sunshine, a satirical funk-driven track inspired by late night infomercials, Scientology ads, and the superficial pursuit of happiness. Thoughts on Land of Sunshine.
Nicole Shine: um so this is the first one i've had the right notes on because i'm way not as familiar as connor which i was wanting you know wanted to challenge myself in and do one i wasn't that familiar with but um my notes for this one were um good good opener good voice
Conor: yeah
Conor: yeah yeah i agree like i said basically the same thing uh good opener um i love what he does with his voice like he speaks in like information infomercial vocals you know um so yeah good opener all right caffeine written during a sleep deprivation experiment the song features fragmented surreal lyrics reflecting madness and agitation thoughts on caffeine
Nicole Shine: um i thought it was good i think i said however i did start to feel the length of the song don't know why like
Conor: oh
Nicole Shine: as it went on, the song kind of felt longer than it was. And as a Tool fan, know you like shut the fuck up. But like, um yeah, it it, you know, I like the song, but it seemed like a lot longer for some reason than it actually was. i don't know why. That's what I put as my note for that one.
Conor: Oh, okay. roald Fair enough. Yeah, I put rock and song. um I love how Patton goes from like singing to whispering to screaming. And that's like a definite staple of his vocal stylings. Like he just sometimes goes all over the place or focuses on one style singing.
Conor: But yeah, next song, Midlife Crisis. Mike Patton wrote this song after being bombarded by images of Madonna in the media, describing it as a song about someone trying desperately to maintain their fame and relevance.
Conor: Thoughts on Midlife Crisis.
Nicole Shine: I put don't like very mid. Why is this a single?
Conor: Oh, wow.
Nicole Shine: um
Conor: I thought you were gonna do the, this is the hit single song. but
Nicole Shine: No, I have that.
Conor: as For something else?
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: Okay.
Nicole Shine: But um yeah, when i I didn't know this was a single, so i was like looking up, you know, some yeah stuff about the album.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: And I was like, I don't like the song. And I was like, why was this a single? I was like, no wonder I didn't get into them. I'm like, they released the like worst song on here.
Conor: Damn. The worst song on here?
Conor: Yeah, it's like, yeah.
Nicole Shine: it's It's actually, there's another, what we'll get there. But yeah, like I did not like this song at all. And it, I don't know why it wasn't like horrible. I just didn't. Like I i listened to it.
Nicole Shine: Um, I listened to it yesterday. i listened to it today. listened to it in the car. And there are some songs that I thought I didn't like when I heard them in the car. I was like, oh, shit.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: But this, the car did not help this song. I don't like it on a train.
Conor: No matter where you want to.
Nicole Shine: I do not like it on a plane.
Conor: ah yeah green eggs and ham i was thinking the same thing but yeah it's you know the hit single or at least the one they played the most in my recollection um i loved the song when it came out but the overplay has lessened my love of it um still good just don't love it as much that was my thoughts on it um
Nicole Shine: i But, yeah. came out.
Conor: All right, so next song, RV, a dark theatrical track detailing the bleak, trapped reality of a suburban midlife existence. Thoughts on RV?
Nicole Shine: This is the other one I don't like It's it a lot like last week with the Benz The two songs that I like the least Are back to back I mean it gets
Conor: Really?
Conor: oh okay.
Nicole Shine: That should be a good thing, because that means that i you know, I feel better about the rest of the album, but yeah, e neither one of these songs I really like.
Conor: Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I think I might actually almost like Arvie a little bit less.
Conor: Oh, okay.
Nicole Shine: um i can't i can't decide, but yeah, i don't I don't like this song at all either.
Conor: Okay. Yeah, I just, I put it as a good song. I just always laughed at the song because of the silliness of the music and the subject matter. You know, it's not, it's not going to be my first pick on the album, honestly.
Conor: And there's plenty times that I was like, skipped it, you know, I'll, yeah.
Nicole Shine: and
Nicole Shine: yeah like There's songs on here that have funny subject matter that are better than this. i don't even think it's the subject matter. who I don't like it. I think I just don't like it.
Conor: Um, next song, smaller and smaller, a heavy tribal sounding song that serves as an algo allegory for oppression, corporate greed, and the gradual wiping out of culture and habitats thoughts on smaller and smaller.
Nicole Shine: Now this one is more like it. I really like this song. Yeah.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I really like this one. This is a really good one. Yeah.
Conor: Yeah. Like it's funny.
Nicole Shine: funny.
Conor: Cause back in the day, like i
Nicole Shine: in like, wasn't really drawn to this song.
Conor: wasn't really drawn to this song but as i've gotten older like this song is one of my favorites on this album um great song and um it has a haunting feel to it but it's just so rocking so all right next song everything's ruined explores the feeling of losing one's innocence and the irreversible changes that come with success or adulthood thoughts on everything's ruined
Nicole Shine: But a professional like, this song is of my great song. And, um, it funky feel to it.
Nicole Shine: But it's just so Mm-hmm.
Nicole Shine: um i put on my note i said almost didn't like it but i got better the more it went on like at first when i like the first like minute or so the song i was like i don't know if i like this one but i enjoyed it more the the song went on that makes sense yeah
Conor: Really?
Conor: Okay. Yeah, yeah, totally. um I'm very different on this one. I love this song.
Nicole Shine: i'm song it's a good song yeah yeah yeah
Conor: I think it's such a great song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But yeah, like, I mean, like, as a whole, like you said you kind of had to listen to it more and more and you're like, all right, it gets better, you know?
Nicole Shine: Mm-hmm.
Nicole Shine: Mm-hmm.
Conor: But yeah, it actually might be um one of my favorite fake no more songs of all time.
Nicole Shine: Mm-hmm.
Conor: Yeah. right. Next one is malpractice, a chaotic abrasive song about greed, paranoia and mental deterioration thoughts on malpractice.
Nicole Shine: I put this song fucks, especially in the car. i love this fucking song.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I think it's so good. Like, I love this fucking song. I think it's really, really good. I added it to my playlist. You know, for me to add a song to the playlist, it's good.
Conor: Damn. All right. That's awesome.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: I, um, I put, this is going to good. Cause this is a throwback to one of my other albums we went through. Um, I feel like this is what we'll play after black Sabbath, black Sabbath for Cthulhu emerging from the death.
Nicole Shine: Oh,
Nicole Shine: the Cthulhu.
Conor: This is like the hymn.
Nicole Shine: It's like the encore.
Conor: No, this is like the hymn destroying things part, you know, song that they play.
Nicole Shine: Yeah. oh Yeah,
Conor: Um, but yeah, it's just a, Really rocking song. And again, Patton showcasing his voice.
Nicole Shine: it's thong fucks, dude.
Conor: Just so good. So good. Yeah. Damn, fucks. All right. Sweet. Next song is called Kindergarten. A cynical critique of how the innocence of youth is quickly corrupted by societal structures. Thoughts on Kindergarten?
Nicole Shine: I just put that it was good, and I put a note like it almost sounded like it started over in the middle.
Conor: Oh, okay.
Nicole Shine: Like, it's a part in the middle where you think the song's over, and it almost sounds like it just restarted from the beginning again. It's weird. I don't know if you ever caught that, but...
Conor: Okay, yeah, going to have to listen that again.
Nicole Shine: Maybe with me not being a a, like a, you know, Faith No More head, I don't know what fans call themselves, but...
Conor: Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Shine: so But yeah, i was like, did the song stop? And then it started over. I said, did I press, ah you know, did I accidentally restart the song?
Conor: yeah You're like questioning yourself and shit.
Nicole Shine: But no, I looked at the timestamp on the song, and I was like, no, that song is just does that. was like, OK. Yeah.
Conor: Oh, okay. Yeah, I'll have to listen that again. um Yeah, I just put um good driving at night with the windows down song. i just I've done that before with this song.
Conor: It's just a really good. It rocks and has a very like chill vibe to it, which sounds weird, but yeah, that's how it feels.
Nicole Shine: Alright, next song.
Conor: All right, next song, Be Aggressive. Written by keyboardist Roddy Bottom, this song uses cheerleading chants to address themes of B&M, sexual dominance, and the queer subculture.
Conor: thoughts on be aggressive oh okay yeah
Nicole Shine: I put that it's good. I said this was one I think I was familiar with before you, you know, listen to this album with you.
Nicole Shine: um For the first time, I feel like I definitely feel like I've heard this song before. you know, listen to the whole, you know, before, like back in the back days, like for some reason, I don't know, but I feel like I've definitely heard this song before.
Conor: okay yeah
Nicole Shine: It's a good song. Yeah. I think it's the lyrics are funny.
Conor: Oh yeah, same here.
Nicole Shine: So.
Conor: Yeah. I just put hilarious song, especially when knowing what the subject matter is about. um I like read an interview where Roddy was talking about the song and writing it.
Conor: And he was like, I just got a kick out of seeing Mike Patton perform every night in front of people saying, i swallow, I swallow, I swallow.
Nicole Shine: isn
Conor: ah thought that was funny as shit. um Next song, A Small Victory. combines a european dance pop rhythm with themes about relentless ambition and fighting one's way to the top only to realize the prize feels hollow thoughts on a small victory
Nicole Shine: here
Nicole Shine: Didn't have too much to say about this one. I just said it was good and that his voice was good on it
Conor: oh okay this one's actually like their think it might have been their second single from the album um yeah i actually i think it's a great song i really like it um
Nicole Shine: this one's back
Conor: I kind of, yeah, I like this one more than Midlife Crisis.
Nicole Shine: Oh, yeah.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: Oh, yeah. Well, I like everything better than this. But yeah.
Conor: ah
Nicole Shine: but yeah
Conor: But yeah, it's it's a good one for sure. um Yeah. All right. Next song, Crack Hitler. A darkly satirical track about a deluded drug kingpin who compared himself to Hitler.
Conor: Thoughts on Crack Hitler.
Nicole Shine: I put okay. I put this chanting saved it for me. Like the chanting parts.
Conor: oh okay yeah
Nicole Shine: um Because it it was almost leaning into like, do I like this song? But I feel like those parts kind of made it interest interesting and kind of saved the song for me.
Conor: okay nice i put bring that funk baby and i was like papa was a rolling stone kind of made me think of that a little bit um yeah good song um patting on the megaphone i thought was cool just you know adding different elements to his
Nicole Shine: Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: Yeah. The song.
Conor: who's singing on different songs and stuff.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, the the song, like, the it didn't get, like, that's I think that's what saved the song for me. It didn't get, like, samey, samey, kind of, like, changed up, you know.
Conor: Yeah, he's he's really big on that. um And that might be why he does it. I don't know, just to not be like, you know, copy paste or whatever.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: But yeah, he's not afraid to experiment. I will give that to him for sure. All right, next song, Jizzlobber.
Nicole Shine: The funniest title ever. for
Conor: Right. A heavy, sludgy track dealing with paranoia, claustrophobia, and a descent into psychological madness. Thoughts on Jizzlobber?
Nicole Shine: Um, this song also fucks.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I just put that it's really good.
Conor: Right.
Nicole Shine: Like, I think I like Heavy Faith No More. i don't know. You know, of course, I'm not that familiar with their stuff, so I don't know if their stuff gets heavy. We'll get to that in the other question.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: But, um, I feel like I enjoy the heavier Faith No More.
Conor: More than the like melodic stuff or.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: OK.
Nicole Shine: yeah
Conor: No, that'll be interesting once we you know do other albums.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: See what your opinion is on those other album songs.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: um My thoughts are i really love this intro. It's like a really scary horror movie intro, you know. Great song, and the ending is just as creepy as the intro.
Conor: And I said, might have to add to our Halloween playlist. You know?
Nicole Shine: yeah
Conor: i think that'd be awesome. All right. Next song is Midnight Cowboy, themed from. An instrumental cover of the Haunting Iconic theme song by John Barry, chosen by the band for its atmospheric mood.
Conor: Thoughts on their cover?
Nicole Shine: ah good I put good instrumental.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: And it sounds like the song from Black Mirror. So if anybody has watched like multiple seasons of Black Mirror, they'll know exactly what song I'm talking about.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: But there's a song that it's like Black Mirror is like in a shared universe. um And there's a song and that's the same song and it's in the several different episodes.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: of the show and it sounds as the music from that sounds exactly like i have i might have to find it to play for you but it sounds almost exactly like that song the musically i mean and that song has lyrics but it the music is almost exactly the same it's really funny
Conor: Yeah. yeah
Conor: Yeah, no, I get what you're saying for sure. um Yeah.
Nicole Shine: where i wonder if they're like based you know what i mean yeah
Conor: Yeah. um I put, it was a cool instrumental cover. I thought it was a nice chill way to end the album, but earlier you said you talked about easy.
Conor: Did you listen to version of the album where that's at the end?
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: oh okay. So side note, um, The last song was Midnight Cowboy, but I think in later versions of the album, they just added easy.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, it said extra track or whatever, because I was going to do my my radio song.
Conor: Okay, cool.
Nicole Shine: You stepped on my radio song. I'm sorry.
Conor: I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
Nicole Shine: This is the radio. I gotta do another song.
Conor: Do it. Next song. No, you can do it. Next song is easy. Give us a song.
Nicole Shine: This is the radio song. It's the song from the radio.
Conor: Ooh.
Nicole Shine: It's the second song that you say when people ask if you like the band. Because the first one is epic. okay
Conor: Oh, yeah.
Nicole Shine: Okay. You know people who aren't in Faithful More, they're like, oh yeah, epic. And I feel like this is the second one. Like, if if if you say Epic, because I've heard, I've seen this video and heard this cover a but whole bunch of times.
Conor: Really?
Conor: i didn't really. yeah I can't say the same. i haven't heard.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, like, almost like, I feel like I had this song in my library somewhere, their cover. um And I'm like, I feel like I've heard, of course, Epic the most, and I feel like this is the one I've heard from them the second most.
Conor: Okay. I mean, it is a cover of a great song, I think.
Nicole Shine: yeah
Conor: What are your thoughts on this cover?
Nicole Shine: no it's good his voice is really really good honest so I like that like I said I think it's in my library somewhere I'm pretty sure it is so yeah you have oh yeah you have yeah
Conor: Yeah, yeah.
Conor: Yeah. I actually, like, I've done this song a few times on karaoke at different places throughout my life. Yep. yep It's so good.
Conor: And then I love how he, his version of like, ew, like he stepped in some shit as opposed to the real smooth, you know?
Nicole Shine: Yeah, you know what i like? That um when we watched that concert of theirs, um that one concert video of theirs, and they opened with the Peaches and Herb.
Conor: What?
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I thought that was really, yeah, i thought that was really fucking funny.
Conor: The reunited. Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: but um yeah.
Conor: It's, it's so good.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: That's why like, oh man. I had a chance to see them like what a couple of years ago and then they canceled and I was so excited. i had like the biggest geek boner, you know, and then they had to cancel and I was like, man, it's kind of like with you and like Bajas or, you know, any other man, like you're so excited and then it is finally going happen.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: Then they cancel and you're like, oh, fuck.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, that pissed me off so bad.
Conor: But side note, I think they are going to be touring in 2027.
Nicole Shine: Yeah, saw that.
Conor: So,
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: may have to make a trip somewhere just saying all right of favorite and least favorite songs let's do favorites what's your favorite
Nicole Shine: So, favorite first.
Nicole Shine: So, I think you probably are going to be able to guess. Could you could you guess which one my favorite is?
Conor: the which one did you say before um oh malpractice yeah yeah yeah yeah
Nicole Shine: Yeah. you
Conor: yep
Nicole Shine: Yeah, I like that one a lot. It was almost my... Um, cause you know, was listening to the album in order.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: It was almost smaller and smaller. So I heard her malpractice.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: And then I was her malpractice. was like, no, this, this is, this is the one.
Conor: no this one.
Nicole Shine: And then heard just labber.
Conor: This one.
Nicole Shine: And I was like, this one's really good too, but I like malpractice better. So, um, yeah, it's malpractice.
Conor: Yeah.
Conor: Right on. um Mine's my favorite. Everything's ruined. I just love that song so much.
Nicole Shine: Um,
Conor: That one hits hits me for sure. All right.
Nicole Shine: funny that it's in between the two songs that I like the most.
Conor: I know, right? Yeah. Just sandwiched perfectly. All right. So, least favorite song.
Conor: Okay. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: It was a tie between, it was really a tie between Midlife Crisis and RV. um But it's probably RV. Probably RV.
Conor: Probably every... Wow. Okay.
Nicole Shine: Probably RV, yeah.
Conor: All right. I mean, it's a really, like... slow and kind of I don't know just didn't work yeah yeah yeah yeah
Nicole Shine: it just It just didn't he just didn't work for me. Midlife Crisis I didn't like, and I think it got more smoke because it was a single, and I couldn't understand that decision. But...
Nicole Shine: I'm like, at least RV wasn't a single.
Conor: yeah that would have yeah that would not have been a good move yeah
Nicole Shine: I mean, it wouldn't have been, but yeah, like...
Conor: um My least favorite is probably Crack Hitler. i
Nicole Shine: No, really?
Conor: Yeah, I just, meh.
Nicole Shine: yeah
Conor: ah you
Nicole Shine: I mean, it it's like I said, it's a man. the it at They at least kept it interesting. We kept it from being like.
Conor: Yeah, it's a good song.
Nicole Shine: yeah
Conor: I just, if I'm being honest, like if I listen to this album, I usually yeah skip that one. you know Yeah, I do, actually.
Nicole Shine: Yeah. like RV more than that.
Conor: yeah
Nicole Shine: Okay.
Conor: I'm not going lie about it.
Nicole Shine: All right. You know, I got got all the smoke for RV.
Conor: Yeah, I know.
Nicole Shine: All right.
Conor: I know you do. All right. So if you had never heard of the band and, um you know, this was your first introduction to them through this album, would it make you want to hear more from them?
Nicole Shine: um when I first let my first listen through I was like you know it makes me want to listen to more Mike Patton I was you know what I mean because I know he has a bunch of different side projects and I was like I like his ah you know he has a really good voice I mean everybody always you know that's not a hot take
Conor: Okay. Gotcha. Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I was like, he has a really good voice, and I'm curious to see what his other bands do. I don't know, you know, about Faith and More. And then once I listened to it a couple more times, I was like, you know, i would be willing to give them, give another album a, um after this, a listen to see what direction it goes.
Conor: OK, yeah.
Nicole Shine: If it goes more in the direction of the songs I like. you know, I'd be willing to dig in more. And if it goes more in the directions of the songs I don't like, probably not.
Conor: OK.
Nicole Shine: um It just, ah it just depends.
Conor: Probably not. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I would, I would at least give, i would at least do another album just to see what, like it would pique my curiosity enough to check out another album.
Conor: Yeah.
Conor: Gotcha.
Conor: I'm automatically thinking of like two of their follow-up albums, like King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime. I think you'd really dig, but yeah, if if that was the next one you like listen to after this one, but if you listen to album of the year, I don't know.
Conor: Cause that one has a lot more, you know, kind of singy, you know, kind of stuff.
Nicole Shine: yeah i don't like i think i do like the harder edge stuff um i don't think i like um hippity hoppity face in the world
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I don't think I like Wicked Fly Flow. Faith No More. um But I do like the the harder edge. And even some of the more experimental stuff I like.
Nicole Shine: I'm not mad But I really. ah like i really like their. It's almost like I feel like how. ah How Faith No More fans feel. About Faith No More.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: About this album. Like the songs I really like. I really really like. in the song that i don't like I'm like meh you know what i mean
Conor: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I see what you're saying. Yeah. Like their fandom. Yeah, they're really like or don't like them. um
Nicole Shine: yeah I mean yeah I mean
Conor: Yeah, I mean, obviously, i I'd look into it more. Just because, like I said, when we're going through the intros, like, real thing was, I enjoyed it, but it was like, in my mind, it was kind of like a a B or C band, you know?
Conor: But then this album,
Nicole Shine: Naked Chili Pepper is like rip off almost.
Conor: A little bit, yeah. yeah um
Nicole Shine: And you know how feel about them.
Conor: I know, right? Oh, God. God forbid I ever do one of theirs. um But, um yeah, this album just, I feel like with the inclusion of like Mike Patton being able to add to the music as opposed to him just coming in after it was made, that really you know made them sore, so to speak.
Conor: you know um Because, yeah, like you said, the real thing. Like you said, the hip-hoppy. stuff like i feel like that wasn't him that was just he just came in you know the music was already written and shit but yeah all right so you want to go over the album ranking scale
Nicole Shine: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
Nicole Shine: even
Nicole Shine: Alright, album rankings. So we go based on skips. um Zero skips is a perfect album. um No notes.
Conor: no notes
Nicole Shine: um One skip is a mulligan. Everyone gets one. Sometimes, even on the most perfect of albums, there might be an experiment that just doesn't quite grab you while you're laughing.
Conor: I had an off they
Nicole Shine: they yeah I mean, you know, it happens.
Conor: well It happens.
Nicole Shine: But still pretty much a perfect album. um
Conor: Yep.
Nicole Shine: Two Skips is a classic album. Still 90 to 95% better than most albums you'll ever hear. Three is a good.
Nicole Shine: Four is a mid. Five is ass. And six plus is trash. And then for double albums, we just double it.
Conor: Yep. All right.
Nicole Shine: So.
Conor: So what is your ranking?
Nicole Shine: so based on my r ranking system but i'm going to give it a classic album yeah um it was a lot higher than what i originally thought don't kill me faith no more fans what i thought it was gonna be and let me let me just tell you i i came in here with
Conor: Nice. Right on.
Nicole Shine: not the smoke, but I came in here with, um because of that one friend that I have, you know i'm talking about, um they always trash talk to all the time, just to get under my skin and be a troll, so I was like, you know what, I'm coming here and loaded, I'm about to break, I'm about to lock and load it, and I'm about to hurt all these his little feelings, talking about his guy Patton, but um I was like, no, I am a honest music
Conor: Oh, no.
Conor: oh no
Nicole Shine: consumer aficionados so I'm going to say what I really feel um and besides the abomination of RV and midlife crisis I really like even the ones that didn't like weren't like oh you know it's fucks
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: I didn't mind. um
Conor: Okay.
Nicole Shine: Like, though, um you know, ah Crack Hitler, I mean, it was another one that was kind of like, eh, but I didn't really mind them. You know mean?
Conor: Okay. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: And then the songs, I think the songs that I really liked, i really, really liked. So that really brought up the a score for me.
Conor: Right on.
Nicole Shine: So, right.
Conor: Yeah, I was actually thinking you were just as we were going through the songs, I was like, oh, man, she might be giving it like a good or a mid. um
Nicole Shine: it could have been It could have been a good, because Crack Hitler is right on the edge for me a little bit.
Conor: But.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: But I listened to it a couple of times. I'm like, I don't mind it that much. Not ever.
Conor: OK. Yeah, I'm glad you weren't coming in with, you know, a vendetta because of a.
Nicole Shine: yeah Yeah.
Conor: What's his name? You know, he who shall not be named opinion.
Nicole Shine: Yeah. Yeah.
Conor: So I appreciate that. Plus, I would have been like, come on, man, because I love him.
Nicole Shine: I know.
Conor: But no, I'm glad I want your honest opinion.
Nicole Shine: No, i'm ah um ah ah I'm going to give my honest opinion, whether good or bad on here.
Conor: That's the whole point of this. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: So, yeah.
Conor: Right. As it should be. Ditto. um All right. So, yeah, I gave it a mulligan just because crack Hitler.
Nicole Shine: Yeah.
Conor: Again, I said it when we're reviewing it. I, a lot of times I just skip that one.
Nicole Shine: Mm-hmm.
Conor: You know, it's a good song. It's just, I have to be in the mood to want to listen to the whole album from start to end. So.
Nicole Shine: Yeah. And I was able to add, like, I think I added the three songs. I think I added smaller and smaller, mild practice, just live raw to my ah playlist.
Conor: Nice.
Nicole Shine: So, hey, you never know. I could... i could You know, you you let me know the one you think I'll like based on that information next. And maybe I'll, you might have a, you know.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: i don't I don't think I'll ever be a diehard Faith No More. I might be the first casual Faith No More fan.
Conor: Oh my gosh. No, I just get a kick out of you having a song, Jizzlobber, in your playlist.
Nicole Shine: In this day.
Conor: It's just great.
Nicole Shine: I mean, I have heard. I have.
Conor: I mean, there's worse titles.
Nicole Shine: we My favorite band literally has a song called Hooker with a Penis.
Conor: Yeah, yeah.
Nicole Shine: in Oh, yeah.
Conor: Imagine that compilation album. Hooker with a penis.
Nicole Shine: Oh, God. Just love her. Stink fist.
Nicole Shine: Alright, so we um will be back next time with a selection from me.
Conor: Yeah.
Nicole Shine: If I haven't started, I have no idea what we're going to do next. But um I might change it up. We might do something maybe a little more dancey. I like we've been doing a lot of rock. or you know um um Who knows?
Conor: Yeah, no, that'd be good.
Nicole Shine: Or maybe we'll do more rock. Who knows? Whatever I feel like. um and then this weekend we will be back with a movie um and next week again like i said a selection for me so thanks for hanging out with us what oh yeah
Conor: Yep. Oh, I got one more thing to say. um Just want to say, yeah, again, Mike Patton, one of my all-time favorite vocalists. just his versatility range and vocal style are amazing. Sorry, I'm geeking out.
Conor: um Humor me. um he His other side projects include Mr. Bungle, Fantomos, Tomahawk, Peeping Tom, Lovage, and Dead Cross. i've loved I've listened to the majority of them and i just Highly recommend checking them out just for the audience in case you didn't know.
Conor: So, and you, babe, you know, so, yeah
Nicole Shine: OK.
Conor: All right. End rant.
Nicole Shine: oh And I'm a stan. I love how I'm a Maynard and Tom York stan. Right? I get labeled, but okay. Anyway.
Conor: No, no, there's no smoke.
Nicole Shine: So...
Conor: Don't act like, you know, you're alone in that. I respect that. That's awesome.
Nicole Shine: So, anyway.
Conor: Yeah. Yeah.
Nicole Shine: We'll be back again, like I said, this weekend with the movie. Next week with one of my picks. And thank you for hanging out with us. We'll hear from us this weekend, maybe.
Nicole Shine: Kind of funny.
Conor: Yep. All right.
Nicole Shine: Alright, bye.
Conor: See you guys.
