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Jeff Buckley Grace
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Introduction to Glenwood's Music Club
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Nicole Shine
Hello.
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Conor
Hey everyone, welcome back to Glenwood's Music Club, where each week we pick an album and review
Overview of Jeff Buckley's Grace
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Conor
it. For our third episode, we're back into albums, and this week we're reviewing one of Nikki's choices, Jeff Buckley's Grace album.
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Nicole Shine
third episode
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Nicole Shine
we' reviewing one of the nick
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Nicole Shine
so
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Conor
The album was released on August 15, 1994.
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Nicole Shine
<unk>s release on august fifteenth ninety four
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Conor
It was the first and only studio album released by the artist, unfortunately, on May 29, 1993.
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Nicole Shine
first and only studio album really artist fortunately on ninety seven
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Conor
While waiting for his band to arrive in Memphis, Tennessee to record his second album, he died from an accidental drowning.
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Nicole Shine
waiting for band to arrive in that see to record the second album from
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Conor
The album was produced, engineered, and mixed by Andy Wallace and recorded in Bearsville Studios in Woodstock, New York.
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Nicole Shine
was produced engineered andrew holac
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Conor
Grace is a deeply introspective, emotionally volatile record.
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Nicole Shine
race is a deeply introspective motionary volattile record
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Conor
Musically, it bridges the gap between alternative rock, folk, jazz, and classical music.
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Nicole Shine
musically it bridges the gap between alternative rock and bold jazz
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Conor
Lyrically, it explores the agonizing highs and lows of love, the weight of mortality, deep existential grief, and the search for spiritual connection.
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Nicole Shine
miracle it explores the eyess and loads of love will be
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Nicole Shine
virtual
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Conor
The record has achieved legendary post-humor status, acclaimed
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Nicole Shine
record as
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Nicole Shine
legendary posthuor status
Personal Discovery of the Album
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Conor
Globally, it's regularly featured on Best of Lists, and Beckley's cover of Hallelujah was inducted into the National Recording Registry in 2014 for being a culturally, historically, and aesthetically significant recording.
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Nicole Shine
globally it's regular best of list and beckley's cover of hallinlu inducted into the national recording
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Nicole Shine
culturally historically and please student
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Conor
So, babe, how did you find out about this album?
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Nicole Shine
did you find out about this
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Conor
Did you discover it yourself, or did someone introduce it to you?
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Nicole Shine
groups on um people have been trying to get me to listen to this album for like 25
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Conor
Damn, 25 years. Shit.
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Nicole Shine
so bill backstory I am kind of stubborn when it comes to stuff when it when people like try to like Like, oh, you gotta listen this. Oh, you gotta listen to this.
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Conor
I get that.
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Nicole Shine
um I'm a huge Radiohead fan. um Radiohead and Tool are my two favorite bands. I love them equally. They're like my children.
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Nicole Shine
I can't choose um which one I like
Initial Impressions of Grace
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Nicole Shine
more. um But when people find out that I'm a um Radiohead fan, the first one, lot of times, one of the first things like, oh, you gotta listen to Jeff Buckley Grace, he you know, he influenced, you know, he's a flu, you know, um I'm like, yes yes, yes, yes, and, um, I, of course, of course, I've heard, um, his cover, Hallelujah, I think, it's the, did like, I think more people think it is his song than Leonard Cohen, um,
00:03:05
Conor
Have you heard Jeff Boakley? It's like, shut up.
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Conor
Oh my God.
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Nicole Shine
And I've heard other like, you know, things from the album, um but I've never sat and listened to it all the way through. and um I want to say it like a month or so ago, i was like, you know, let me just, I was looking for it, like new stuff to listen to.
00:03:46
Nicole Shine
And I was like, let me just, let me listen to this because, you know, so many people with similar musical tastes than me, you know, to me are always talking, raving about how good this album is.
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Nicole Shine
So i was like, okay, let me sit down and listen
Track-by-Track Review Begins
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Nicole Shine
to it. And of course it's so, it's really, really, really fucking good.
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Conor
So you're ready, basically, you right? You're finally ready.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah. It's really good. i mean, I knew it was going to be good, but I was just being stubborn.
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Conor
I mean, you gotta be in the mood, you know, because you want to give it its fair share.
00:04:18
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
So yeah.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
Um, I actually didn't know Jack about this artist or this album. Um, and you introduced it to me. So, um, for this podcast, but yeah, uh, listened to it last night and let's go through it. You ready?
00:04:37
Nicole Shine
yeah
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Conor
All right. So uh, ah Side note, you told me there's a there's a special edition I need to listen to. Like the original album had 10 tracks, but I guess the deluxe edition has 11 and some other demos or you know alternate takes.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah, the the original release has 10, and there's um the 11th song, Forget Her.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
um as I said listen to the 11th track because i don't think our our rating is based on skips.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
So unless it's an ass song, it's really not going to change our rating, which is is not an ass song, so it wouldn't change our rating probably anyway.
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Conor
and
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Nicole Shine
So um why not? they're both of them.
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Conor
I'm glad you told me though, um, to listen to the 11 track one. All right. Um, so the first track on the album, uh, Mojo pin, it examines escapism, drug use and seeking solace and romantic obsession in a dreamscape.
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Conor
Um, My thoughts were, you know, album opener, it's a mellow, haunting, and interesting how it changes tone like halfway through.
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Conor
um Those were kind of like the main things I pointed out. What about you? What you think of this track?
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Nicole Shine
think it's okay. It's a good opener. um The changes to it were... um I don't know if I really liked the changes, you know, the, how it changes.
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Conor
I agree. Yeah, it's a bit jarring.
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Nicole Shine
ah Yeah, it's very jarring. um it It doesn't, it just kind of, it kind of brings the song a little down for me. It's not a skip, but it does bring the song.
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Nicole Shine
I feel like without those jarring changes, i would have enjoyed it a little more.
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Conor
Yeah, it kind of takes you out of the the flow of the song for sure.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
So... so all right so the second song is grace the title track it explores a promise and belief in love even in the face of mortality it was inspired by buckley's separation from his girlfriend at an airport before moving to new york city my thoughts were i really really like the guitar part buckley played
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Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
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Conor
before the verses. That high vocal towards the end, man, he was wailing.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah, um you know, i'll take I take my man Tom York very personal. And so when anyone, like, compares anybody to him, I, you know, get in my feels. But I will say this man, Jeff, be sting and singing, singing.
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Nicole Shine
Like, that's okay.
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Conor
You go to church, man.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah, I told Connor, he be singing, singing. Like, he be singing like the Ritz do.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
He was singing like they had, was holding his family hostage and was like, you need to sing um to get them released or whatever. yeah this man, yeah, this man be singing, singing.
00:07:45
Conor
Get that high note.
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Nicole Shine
And I really, really, really like this song.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
It's one of my favorites on here. it's It's really good. The vocal performance. The guitar is good. The vocal performance is perfection. um ah really like it.
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Conor
Yeah. Yeah. All right. So the third track is Last Goodbye, a haunting and desperate breakup song detailing the painful lingering end of a relationship.
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Conor
I love the baseline in this song so much.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
um This is probably one of the favorites online on the album.
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Nicole Shine
Okay. Yeah, it's a good one, too. And, um like, I've heard a lot of people say, um like, he gets so much attention for his vocals that people don't really give him the props for his guitar playing or his, you know, his instrumentation and or whatever.
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Nicole Shine
And i I really enjoy his guitar playing, too, you
Buckley's Challenges in Recording
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Nicole Shine
know, and, you know, his instrumentation as well as his voice.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
You don't know his voice is spectacular, but I liked a lot of the instruments. There's probably, there's we haven't gotten there yet, there's probably one song where I don't really like the instrumentation, and we'll get there, but this is this isn't the one, so.
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Conor
Yeah. No, I hear you. um Like an interesting anecdote when I was preparing for this, um I learned that he had a hard time with arrangements and stuff when he was putting things down for the album because I like what he quoted. He was basically saying it's a lot different than live because live you can kind of switch things up and change things and improvise. When you do an album that's kind of like the finality of a song, you know, like it's kind of set in stone, like, oh, that's the way it's supposed to sound like or whatever.
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Nicole Shine
It's kind set in stone. oh, that's the way it's supposed to sound like or whatever.
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Conor
And that was kind of jarring for him to kind of get it right, so to speak, from one i what I read.
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Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
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Conor
So I thought that was interesting. All right. So next track, Lilac Wine, a cover of the Nina Simone Populares track. exploring drunkenness as a way to numb romantic heartbreak and sorrow.
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Conor
Um, my thoughts were, it's a good cover. Didn't know this was a cover actually.
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Nicole Shine
yeah
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Conor
um I actually, uh, went back and listened to the original before listened to this one. Um, I actually liked the original better personally.
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Nicole Shine
And I actually like the original better, personally.
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Conor
Um, like the original, but, uh,
00:10:16
Nicole Shine
I like the original, but he made it his own.
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Conor
he made it his own, you know, um, he used guitar instead of, Nina's was more heavily, you know, piano.
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Nicole Shine
He used guitar instead Nina's, was more heavily, you know, piano. He probably just transferred.
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Conor
He probably just transcribed the piano notes into the guitar. Um, it's haunting subject matter, but I dig it.
00:10:34
Nicole Shine
subject matter but i dig it Yeah, I like it too. His vocals are really pretty um on this. um No, no.
00:10:44
Nicole Shine
I mean, he didn't he didn't write it, so like it's not...
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Conor
No, no. Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
But it's a really good cover. There's like three covers on here, and they're all pretty good. Yeah.
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Conor
I feel like he did a good job of like staying true to the original, but also making it his own, you know?
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Nicole Shine
yeah
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Nicole Shine
Right.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
All right. Next track is called So Real. It deals with surreal romantic infatuation, transcendence, and the overwhelming feeling of total surrender and love.
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Conor
um My thoughts are the middle of the song sounded very like chaotic, grungy. um It's dreamlike. on edge guitar. I like the chorus.
00:11:27
Conor
Um, but yeah, that was all the notes I had for that one.
00:11:31
Nicole Shine
Yeah, this is a good one, but it gives me, um, it gives me like radio song. You know what mean? Like, like this is the radio song.
00:11:37
Conor
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:40
Nicole Shine
I don't even know if this was a single. Was this a single?
00:11:44
Conor
Oh, shoot.
00:11:44
Nicole Shine
I know Grace was a single. oh
00:11:47
Conor
Yeah. Grace and, um, last goodbye was a signal. I think so real was one.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah it if Yeah This really gives Single you know what I mean like um It's a good song but it just it really gives like This is the radio We need to We need to do start doing that on these reviews Like The radio song
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Conor
Yeah, there are three singles on this album, if I remember correctly. Yeah.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Conor
That needs to be an actual song where they make fun of it.
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Conor
Yeah.
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Conor
This is the radio song.
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Nicole Shine
Their song is Hallelujah.
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Conor
You'll hear it 20 times in a day. It's when you ask if you'd like a band, that's all people will say. right. Sorry. Sidetracked there. Uh, next song is Hallelujah.
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Conor
It's Buckley's transcendent cover of Leonard Cohen's song. It explores complex intersections of broken love. Um, sacredness tragedy and endurance my thoughts uh listen to the original first as well like the previous song cover um and then jeff's uh really like what jeff did with the song and you can see why it's on the national recording registry i think he definitely uh made it his own and kind of upped it you know
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Nicole Shine
Yeah, I definitely enjoy his version better. i mean, the the original version is, of course, good, but I like Leonard Cohen. But, um yeah, his his vocals are superior.
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Nicole Shine
So he really is just, um he, again, approved upon it. um This is the, you know, there's a reason why people think that this is at the actual, it's actually his song, you know.
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Conor
Yeah. Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
Yeah.
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Conor
For sure. um Next song is Lover You Should Have Come Over.
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Nicole Shine
For sure.
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Conor
A raw examination of youth regret in the morning of a lost love that the narrator realized too late they should have thought they should have fought for.
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Nicole Shine
You Should Have Come Over.
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Conor
Really good in your feel song.
00:13:57
Nicole Shine
Banger. Hmm. Hmm.
00:14:00
Conor
Feels like you're navigating a ship through a storm.
00:14:03
Nicole Shine
no
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Conor
i don't know. That's kind of the feeling I got. Really deep subject matter on this album. I really, really dig the feels, you know, behind each song.
00:14:16
Nicole Shine
This is a lot of people's favorite album on the song. We'll hold to see it's mine.
00:14:22
Conor
Mm-hmm.
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Nicole Shine
But I can see why. mean, it's an absolute banger. um everyric the lyric From the lyrics to the instrumentation to his vocal performance, it's just perfect.
00:14:36
Nicole Shine
It's... a perfect song and just because it's perfect don't mean it's my favorite because you know i'm an odd as my boss would say an odd duck but um yeah it this song is a banger like it's one it will immediately like stand out to you when you hear it it's one those songs that like grab you immediately the first time you hear you know how some songs will take you like couple listens this to see whether or not you think, you know, you're into it or not.
00:15:04
Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
And this was one of those songs that when ah the first time I heard it, I was like, oh, no, this is this is it. This is a good one. So, yeah.
00:15:14
Conor
Gotcha. ah Next song is Corpus Christi Carol, a sweeping ethereal adaptation of a Benjamin Britten hymn, acting as an eerie and sorrowful meditation on death, peace and spiritual release.
00:15:33
Conor
Dreamy guitar sound yet again and very choir singing. just but makes me think of a church hymn stripped down. um i mean, obviously the title and the description of the p song. So, yeah.
00:15:46
Nicole Shine
Yeah, it a very, um to me, it was a very strange follow-up to... in between the two songs as in between know what mean it's a weird like it has a very weird placement for me in between the two i don't have to look into it more to see if there's a reason why it's placed in between those two songs or if it's just that's just where he decided to place it um his vocals are so freaking pretty like um again it's the odd song um it's almost ah um
00:15:56
Conor
Yeah, yeah.
00:16:16
Conor
Yeah.
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Nicole Shine
acapella almost.
00:16:26
Conor
Yeah.
00:16:26
Nicole Shine
um It's not, but it um it kind of feels that way. And it's just very, very pretty.
00:16:31
Conor
Yeah.
00:16:33
Nicole Shine
Like, his vocals are very pretty. um But it's weird in between the two songs that it's I don't
Diverse Musical Styles in Grace
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Nicole Shine
dislike it. It's just the placement is weird.
00:16:41
Conor
The policeman doesn't really flow. Yeah, that can happen.
00:16:43
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:16:45
Conor
on the albums for sure. Like, um, just the arrangement is so crucial lot of times.
00:16:53
Nicole Shine
yeah
00:16:53
Conor
And yeah All right. Uh, next track is called eternal life, a much more aggressive, socially conscious track, addressing self-destruction, racism, human folly, and the delta yeah desire for, sorry.
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Nicole Shine
sorry
00:17:11
Conor
And the desire for eternal peace in a corrupt world. um I put funky rock tune. Really like this track.
00:17:19
Nicole Shine
here it And this is going to be funny why you like it. i Jeff Buckley fans, don't be mad at me, but this one does not work for me. And I'm about to tell you why, and Connor's going to laugh.
00:17:33
Conor
Yo, I totally think I know.
00:17:33
Nicole Shine
Because it gives me red hot chili peppers.
00:17:35
Conor
ah ah
00:17:37
Nicole Shine
Did it give you red hot chili peppers?
00:17:39
Conor
Yup, totally did. i was like, oh shit.
00:17:40
Nicole Shine
I can't stand...
00:17:42
Conor
Yeah.
00:17:44
Nicole Shine
Sorry, Red Hot Chili Peppers fans. Sorry, not sorry. I cannot stand the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Kinda likes them. And... This is one of our only bones of contingent in our marriage, but...
00:18:00
Nicole Shine
So, yeah.
00:18:00
Conor
Shit's over, man. It
00:18:03
Nicole Shine
So, yeah. This... it Immediately, I was like, is Flea on the base? Or... But, um... And it was just funny, because my man, York, works with Flea in a different side project, but that's beside the point. But, um...
00:18:14
Nicole Shine
He's worming his way into every aspect of my life. But, um yeah, it um it's not a bad song. But because it immediately gives me Chili Peppers, it's just, my ears just went, my ears went, nope.
00:18:26
Conor
gives you a bad taste, kind of.
00:18:30
Conor
Nope. I don't want no funk except for Prentice's funk.
00:18:35
Nicole Shine
I like funk, but not Chili Peppers. yeah. so yeah
00:18:40
Conor
Yeah, no, I get that. Next track, Dream Brother. ah cautionary, empathetic plea about not abandoning loved ones heavily inspired by Buckley's own strained relationship with his estranged father.
00:18:56
Conor
Haunting vocals over a great guitar with subtle background instruments at first, then gets rocky. Doug the song. I did.
00:19:04
Nicole Shine
yeah it was very dreamy um floaty um oh yeah um a good ending we are going to talk about the you know the added song next um
00:19:09
Conor
Yeah. A lot of the tracks are. I dig that.
00:19:21
Conor
But as far as the regular album, this is like the ending track.
00:19:22
Nicole Shine
Yeah, um, this the ending track, um, um, his, this is his original vision, so I'm respectful that, even though I really, really like, um, the next song that we're gonna talk about, but, um
00:19:39
Conor
on dream brother nice
00:19:39
Nicole Shine
if If he would have ended it here, it would have been, i mean, you know, if I would have heard the original album, not the, you know, extended, um i would have to felt like it was a good ending.
00:19:51
Conor
good closer yeah okay cool are so now we're going to track 11 which is from the extended version of the album forget her in aching
00:19:52
Nicole Shine
It was a good closer. Yeah. Mm-hmm. yeah
00:20:06
Conor
Agonizing ballad about the inability to escape a toxic, heartbreaking relationship. The song centers on the struggle of loving someone who you know will only cause you pain, capturing the paralyzing cycle of trying to move on while being haunted by vivid memories of the past.
00:20:25
Conor
I love the haunting guitar. There I go again using that word. um And then I wrote down the lyric. don't fool yourself. She was heartache from the moment you met her. That lyric, man, that fucking, like, I was just listening and shit.
00:20:42
Conor
Um, I was paying attention, but not really hyper-focused. But as soon as they said that, like my head just whipped right to the, you know, the album. I was like, Oh my God, that's so good. But yeah, really good. I'm glad you told me to listen to that.
00:20:55
Nicole Shine
yeah i really really really like that song um
00:20:56
Conor
Yeah. Yeah.
00:21:00
Nicole Shine
um I believe he felt like it was too commercial and that's why he didn't put it on the original.
00:21:06
Conor
That makes sense. Yeah.
00:21:07
Nicole Shine
Yeah, but it's so good though. yeah
00:21:10
Conor
yeah
00:21:12
Nicole Shine
Like it's so, it's, such a good song his vocal performance it's his best um to me my favorite vocal performance of his um on the you know it's not on the album but it's my fate of all the songs we talked about today it's my favorite like vocal performance especially that last i want to say that last two minutes where he really starts getting in his bag
00:21:39
Conor
Yeah.
00:21:40
Nicole Shine
um Yeah, it's it's just good. It's a good, really good song. So, um,
00:21:48
Conor
Yeah.
Favorite and Least Favorite Tracks
00:21:49
Nicole Shine
yeah.
00:21:50
Conor
Right on. All right. Well, that's all the songs. So you're my favorite song. um Was.
00:22:02
Conor
It was going to be like I kind of had a three way tie between. Hold on.
00:22:06
Nicole Shine
Yeah, you go. It's your three-way time.
00:22:08
Conor
Let me explain.
00:22:09
Nicole Shine
okay.
00:22:11
Conor
um So Last Goodbye, Sylvia and Dream Brother. Like, I was loving all those. But until I heard Forget Her.
00:22:20
Nicole Shine
mother like was loving them until heard forget and so i'm the same kind of way so if we're going the original album it will probably be a lover you should come over
00:22:20
Conor
Yeah, that, I think Forget Her is my favorite.
00:22:32
Conor
Yeah.
00:22:37
Conor
Yeah, I figured.
00:22:38
Nicole Shine
If we're going, if we're including Forget Her, then it's Forget Her. um Both of those to me, you know, I love a good, and Grace could almost be in there too.
00:22:51
Conor
Yeah.
00:22:51
Nicole Shine
um i love his vocal performance, you know me, I'm ah um'm a vocal kind of girl, and I love his vocal performances on all those songs, um, so, it just depends on which version we're talking about, we're talking about the original vision, then it's Lover, You Should Have Come Over, if we're talking about the extended, we you know, so you know, extended version, then it's, it's, hands down, forget her, um, yeah,
00:22:57
Conor
Yeah.
00:23:00
Conor
Mm-hmm.
00:23:14
Conor
Yeah.
00:23:20
Conor
Okay. All right. so my least favorite track, and I feel like we're going to same on this, but it's the album opener, Mojo Pen.
00:23:29
Nicole Shine
It's the opener.
00:23:32
Conor
that That change is just so jarring to me. It really takes me out of the song and kind of put a bad taste in my mouth for the song. Yeah. Yeah.
00:23:43
Nicole Shine
are not going to be the same.
00:23:45
Conor
Okay.
00:23:46
Nicole Shine
while i agree with you that da Well, agree with that that change is jarring. And for it to be the first song on the album, you're like, oh, God, that's what we're going to get.
00:23:53
Conor
Yeah.
00:23:57
Conor
ah Right.
00:23:58
Nicole Shine
But no, it it goes into grace and then immediately starts getting good. But um
00:24:01
Conor
Yeah, gets good.
00:24:03
Nicole Shine
um it's it's actually going to be eternal life for me.
00:24:09
Conor
the funk, baby. Yeah.
00:24:10
Nicole Shine
Because of all the things we mentioned before.
00:24:13
Conor
That makes sense. Yeah.
00:24:15
Nicole Shine
It's not a bad song. It's just, it gives me chili peppers. And...
Timelessness and Appeal of Grace
00:24:20
Nicole Shine
and yeah like i'm i'm grooving um' um i'm i'm i'm gonna listen to the album with my a lot of times i fall asleep to music so i have my ear my sleep headphones on and you know corpus christi carol is on it goes off and it's all dreamy and pretty and um and then it just goes out we're round brown bur brown i'm like oh god we'll put on the chili peppers we put them we'll put them on connor just sneak chili peppers into my playlist
00:24:46
Conor
I know, right? Hey, put your headphones on. ah
00:24:49
Nicole Shine
So yeah.
00:24:53
Nicole Shine
So yeah, that that would be mine.
00:24:56
Conor
right. Forgive me. I forget since our last.
00:24:59
Nicole Shine
Does it hold up?
00:25:00
Conor
Yeah. Do you want to that one first before the scale?
00:25:03
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:25:03
Conor
Yeah. Okay. Does it hold up? You go first because I'm like, you have more time with this and I just, you know, got a hold of it.
00:25:13
Nicole Shine
Um, I would say... I mean being as though people still um are discovering it all these years later and liking it I would say that it does um I'd say i would say it holds up um yeah I can see some I could see somebody putting this on in 2026 and you know discovering it and loving it um
00:25:39
Conor
Discovering it and loving it.
00:25:44
Nicole Shine
Um, it's not too dated, even though more like almost like grungier kind of stuff. It's not really dated. Um, not grungy, but you know what i mean?
00:25:54
Nicole Shine
Like 90s alternative.
00:25:54
Conor
Yeah.
00:25:56
Nicole Shine
Um, it really, it doesn't really date itself. And then the fact that there's like so many covers of, you know, standards and stuff. It, it, I mean, his voice is timeless.
00:26:08
Nicole Shine
Um,
Final Thoughts and Rating
00:26:09
Conor
He does have a great voice. Yeah.
00:26:10
Nicole Shine
yeah, I think it holds up.
00:26:13
Conor
Yeah, I agree. i think it holds up. um Like, I enjoyed the album, but it's probably not my taste exactly.
00:26:24
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:26:25
Conor
i like, I respect the hell out of his voice. Oh my God. um And I did like a lot of the songs, but yeah, I probably would have never known about this if he hadn't told me, which is awesome.
00:26:38
Conor
They told me about it. But, yeah. um
00:26:42
Nicole Shine
Yeah, this is, this will probably be much more my bad than yours.
00:26:45
Conor
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:26:46
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:26:48
Conor
wait
00:26:48
Nicole Shine
um okay. You want to do our rating?
00:26:51
Conor
Yeah. You want go first or me first?
00:26:58
Nicole Shine
I'm going to give it. Don't kill me, Jeff Buckley fan.
00:27:04
Conor
I'm
00:27:06
Nicole Shine
Because I know y'all are a rabbit. um But. And whether or not we add track 11 or not, it doesn't change the rating.
00:27:16
Conor
Oh, yeah, that's true. um
00:27:17
Nicole Shine
It doesn't change the rating because we go, like I said before, we go based on skips. And we both really like that song.
00:27:21
Conor
Yeah.
00:27:23
Nicole Shine
So it's not, it doesn't in affect the rating.
00:27:25
Conor
Yeah, that's true.
00:27:25
Nicole Shine
um But um I will give this a classic.
00:27:32
Conor
That's what I figured.
00:27:33
Nicole Shine
um
00:27:33
Conor
Yeah.
00:27:34
Nicole Shine
Because, in all honesty, I'm going to probably skip Mojo Pen every time. And I'm probably going to skip to Eternal Life.
00:27:46
Nicole Shine
So with two skips on our, oh, we should probably explain our rating scale, huh? Oh,
00:27:51
Conor
Oh, yeah. Sorry. Let me go back on.
00:27:52
Nicole Shine
Sorry.
00:27:53
Conor
Well, hopefully by this time they'd know, but yeah, go ahead.
00:27:54
Nicole Shine
Yeah, well, we'll just, we'll do it the next, we'll do it just because somebody might not have listened to it.
00:27:59
Conor
Yeah, this might be someone's first episode. Yeah.
00:28:02
Nicole Shine
So, our rating scale is zero, we go based on skips, and zero skips is a no notes perfect perfect album. um One skip is a mulligan, everybody gets the one.
00:28:15
Nicole Shine
You know, even the most perfect of perfect albums, there's usually that one song that's like, eee, it's zero.
00:28:15
Conor
Yep.
00:28:21
Conor
Which is totally fair, I think.
00:28:22
Nicole Shine
Yeah, the experiment, maybe they tried something and it just didn't.
00:28:23
Conor
Yeah.
00:28:25
Conor
The drummer. The drummer song.
00:28:27
Nicole Shine
It didn't.
00:28:28
Conor
Yeah.
00:28:28
Nicole Shine
Yeah, was a Ringo song. um Two skips is classic. It's still good, you know. So, you know, most albums have at least 10 songs, so only two.
00:28:42
Nicole Shine
um Three is good. Four is mid. Five is ass and six plus is trash and then for double albums just double those um so i'm going give this a classic because of skipping probably when i mean the times i've listened to this in the few you know two months or so that i've been listening to it i'm usually skip mojo pen in eternal life um so with two skips on my scale is a classic
00:28:52
Conor
Nice.
00:29:20
Conor
Yeah, I kind of figured you would be either Mulligan or Classic. um
00:29:24
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:29:26
Conor
Let's see.
00:29:26
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:29:26
Conor
um I originally wrote good, but upon like thinking about it and reflecting it on it and just going through each track, um I think I might upgrade it to Classic.
00:29:30
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:29:44
Conor
Now, mind you, I only listen to it like one or two times you know in preparing for this so i don't have as much time with it you know um but yeah i'd say probably two skips two or three skips i'm i'm in between there um i'm obviously mojo pin um i did not write down my other ones um
00:30:00
Nicole Shine
Which ones would you skip?
00:30:06
Nicole Shine
Yeah, you didn't like that one.
00:30:14
Conor
Maybe the covers. I don't know.
00:30:16
Nicole Shine
Yeah.
00:30:16
Conor
Yeah. Just because, don't get me wrong, they're great covers, but they're not his. You know?
00:30:22
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:30:22
Conor
So maybe those. But yeah, I usually write those the every track down, but my bad. forgot to. So, yeah.
00:30:31
Nicole Shine
Alright, no problem. Alright.
00:30:35
Conor
Yeah. Cool.
00:30:38
Nicole Shine
another one in the bag um we'll be back um this weekend with a movie we haven't done i feel like it's been a while since we've done a movie right um because we took um this weekend off for connor's birthday um so we'll be back with the movie selection and then um next week we'll be back it'll be connor's turn to pick an album again So we'll be back with a counterpick for the music club.
00:30:40
Conor
That's right.
00:31:06
Conor
Yeah.
00:31:10
Nicole Shine
think that's Yep. And you're curious and haven't heard it
00:31:14
Conor
Yep. And if you're curious and haven't heard it already, go out and give ah Jeff Buckley's greatest album to listen to.
00:31:22
Nicole Shine
Mm-hmm.
00:31:23
Conor
Definitely worthwhile. And yeah.
00:31:25
Nicole Shine
Yeah, if you like, um if you're a fan of amazing, you know, really good vocals, um you will not be disappointed. Because like I said, the man Jeff can sing.
00:31:40
Conor
He can sing.
00:31:40
Nicole Shine
That boy can sing. He good. He good. So, yes. All right.
00:31:47
Conor
All
00:31:47
Nicole Shine
thanks Thank you guys for hanging with us. We'll see you next time.
00:31:50
Conor
right. See you guys.
00:31:51
Nicole Shine
right