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As Ty & Eric are toasting their buns on Hawaiian beaches, they discuss Hawaiian statement beers, the North Korean ban on hot dogs, whether Governor Trudeau ever did anything good, when your bartender is a convicted felon, eating rats for dinner, slipping a laxative into your footlong, and Subway’s truck convoy culture.
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Transcript
Opening from Hawaii
00:00:03
Think Fresh
Yo, yo, yo, hellorehead hello, Hello, breadheads. Hello, Ty, my esteemed co-host. Or should I say Aloha? Aloha, breadheads. That's right. Because at time of airing, both myself and Eric are somewhere on a beach in Hawaii, taking in some rays, enjoying the annual Think Fresh retreat. I would also like to say mahalo for tuning in. Mahalo, whatever that means.
00:00:33
Think Fresh
Uh, that means thank you. I did not just Google that. Um, yeah, Brett heads. If you're listening to this, we are currently shirtless and barefooted most likely, um, sprawling our little toes in the sand. I'm wiggling my toes in the sand while Bay is taking pictures of a turtle or something. And no, I'm not talking about myself. I'm going to be feeling like a turtle the way I'm going to be hunched over in those little tiny lawn chairs. Oh, hell yeah, dude. My little toesies popping out of the sand like little baby tortoises. It's so great, Ty, to take you know a weekend off in January with you, my esteemed co-host, to celebrate our successes over the last year. and Thank you to the breadheads for buying so much merch. That's right. Ty and I were able to upgrade our seat to Comfort Plus. on way to I can now afford a carry-on. That's right. Wow. Can you imagine?
00:01:27
Think Fresh
Did you opt for the plane meal on the plane? I must have, I don't know. I like to be surprised because, okay, the best part about being a vegetarian on a plane, I think I mentioned it before, you get served first.
Hawaii Retreat & Culinary Adventures
00:01:40
Think Fresh
Oh, yeah. They do a special trip before even drink service to make sure that you are well fed. Special delivery, they write your name on the yeah the the meal as well. They'll be like, they'll put my name in a script font.
00:01:53
Think Fresh
Yeah. It's kind of like when you, I don't know, order a salad at sweet green and the yellow, yellow, yellow, your name, like veggie for tie. Yeah. Tea. That's what they say. Tea. Tea. why That's me. I'm tea. Yeah.
00:02:07
Think Fresh
yeah So Eric, do you want to explain to the breadheads why Hawaii was the obvious choice for a retreat after a hard year of grinding on this podcast? it just I know why it made sense two for us to do this, but I'm curious if you'd like to share that with the breadheads. Well, Ty.
00:02:28
Think Fresh
I'm currently googling the weather in Hawaii. It is 27 degrees Celsius, which means it is 80 degrees Fahrenheit. And it is also perfectly clear. It is maybe the best place to go in January. That's right. um Maybe Mexico is close like anywhere in the Caribbean. But Hawaii, I've never been. So I figured, hey, let's go. Everyone has always told me that it has the best food. Really? The food there is just incredible. and Um, I guess a lot of emphasis on seafood and fresh ingredients. So yeah, i'm excited to try it. Um, I love all those things. Yeah. I just felt like it we we talk twice a week about toasting, but we're not toasting. We need to go toast. Yeah, dude. We're living a lie right now. We're such hypocrites. I am pale like a raw bread slice. and That's right.
00:03:20
Think Fresh
I've been triple dosing vitamin D for the last couple months now. um In preparation of this retreat? In lack, ah in lieu of this treat. This treat? This treat. It is a treat. Yeah, I know I haven't seen Sun in like three months because Vancouver is You know, really kind of gloomy and rainy and gross. Yeah, dude. This is the time of year where everyone becomes a deadbeat dad. They haven't seen the sun for a while. Yeah. No, for sure. um So I've been kind of just doing that to maintain my immunity levels. But once we get up there, I'm probably not going to need to take any because we're going to have so much sun and it's been great. Yeah. Nice and warm. Got the blood flowing.
00:04:04
Think Fresh
um You're going to be off the D. That's great. You like more natural
Subway & Truck Drivers
00:04:10
Think Fresh
Ds. Yeah, I just need to get off the D. That was really the problem. Damn. But yeah, what about you? Why did you but did you choose Hawaii? We didn't have to go to the same place. It's true. We didn't. This is first and foremost a remote podcast, ah a global podcast as well. But that's right yeah, we are recording in person right now. We find we find a way no matter what. Yeah.
00:04:34
Think Fresh
Uh, it's about the toasting, Eric. It's about, it's about getting a little sand in your sandwich and your butt crack. Are you going to eat Subway on the beach? I think that could be a possibility. Oh, definitely going to happen. Dude, the butt crack is the sandwich of the body. If you think about it, butt crack is the sandwich of the body. Explain that please.
00:04:56
Think Fresh
I don't, I, it needs not be explained, but I will, yes, eat a sandwich on the beach because that's what the the beach is all about chips and set sandwiches. Okay. Eric and I are recording in his car and we've been sitting in this vehicle outside subway for what?
00:05:14
Think Fresh
Half an hour, an hour now? And we've had like five or six gigantic lifted trucks pull into this little parking lot and park next to us. And different dudes with beards are climbing out, stepping this like 10 feet down from their their lifted F-150 and then they're beelining it straight in a subway. It's pretty remarkable to see honestly. It's crazy how many just like,
00:05:40
Think Fresh
crusty dudes in trucks are coming through here. The number of flannel jackets we've seen in the last 45 minutes. It must be shift change at the... Oh, they're going to Starbucks. so They must be a gay couple. That makes more sense. They got to get their after work fraps for the drive home.
00:05:55
Think Fresh
but propp bro um I'm sure they're probably ordering like a faguccino or something. Nice. Dude, this is crazy, though, these trucks that are going by because we're in your low ride, your low ride Mercedes whip. And I feel like you could literally drive under this this vehicle next to us. Yeah. Holy shit. It's huge. It can it can monster truck your car if it wanted to. It could totally drive over the car. That's crazy. It's crazy.
00:06:21
Think Fresh
Um, but okay. I guess spread has, if you haven't noticed by now, we are recording this immediately after our last episode. So we're still sitting in the same parking lot. That's why I've seen so many trucks go by. You finished the last episode. You left your house. You had a life. We're still here. We're grinding. We're outside subway. It's kind of a beautiful
North Korea's Hot Dog Ban
00:06:40
Think Fresh
time capsule if you think about it. it is So if anything happened between Jan 7th and whatever the day is now, what what would the day be Ty? The 10th?
00:06:53
Think Fresh
the 11th? No, the 10th. Yeah, you're right. And when this is going live. So, I mean, the inauguration is on the 20th, so we thank God we will be around for that. But with the amount of Boeing issues these days, this could be our last and first last episode, first post-humous episode. Wow. Post-humorous, even. Post-humorous. We we didn't even get to 400. Wow, that's so sad. Yeah. I think we'll be okay, knock on fake wood. Yeah.
00:07:22
Think Fresh
That's right. My car does have wood grain. Leather with that wood grain. Yeah. um Any topics today? Yeah, do I got a report on one thing I heard about this week. This might be old news as of the 10th, but go um North Korea has, as of yesterday, banned hot dogs.
00:07:41
Think Fresh
Hot dogs are dunzo there. they They're no more hot dogs. I don't know what the punishment is, probably death if you consume one, but they have eradicated the glizzy from their their nation.
00:07:54
Think Fresh
Interesting, and okay, two follow up questions. One, can you define hot dog? We don't need to get into that. I'm assuming it's a phallic meat wedged between the butt crack of bread, which is the buns. This is gonna be a problem, Ty. This is a big problem because You were planning to go there on a tour. Yeah, dude. I was going to meet up with big, Johnny. Johnny chestnuts actively seeking asylum there. Damn dude. You got to eradicate the source. yeah We got to infiltrate at the home base. yeah Um, no, but think about it. Like.
00:08:41
Think Fresh
How much, how many different kinds of meat can be in a tube, you know, all of them. share soed Every single one. And so it makes me think like, what's the problem here? Is it the tubular form or is it the contents of that tubular meat disc form? Because like, if it's made with real dog, there is possibility or with other kinds of, you know, lower grade meat, such as rats.
00:09:08
Think Fresh
That's true. We don't really know what type of like meat farms they have there. They might be running out of options. They might have, the cattle may be eradicated as well. I've heard of stories, Ty, where people there are so hungry and poor that they resort to eating rats. but Really? Yeah. They cook them up in so in a stew and they eat the rats. So it makes me think like, what did the hot dog do?
00:09:37
Think Fresh
to deserve this fate, you know? Yeah. Like it like seems like an overreaction to a very specific kind of food. Like a hot dog is the perfect food for a like poverty stricken nation because you don't need a definitive meat to make it. And I think that's what you're getting at, right? Exactly. You can make anything into a hot dog. Yeah. And it also seems cheap to produce at scale as well. Yeah, totally. So yeah, it's a really tricky one for me. Like it's not like they banned, like if they banned rats because people are getting diseases, then that's that's something, right? Yeah, 100%. I don't know, though, if you boil the rat long enough, get a little ratatouille action going, you might just eliminate any chance of the World Health Organization knocking on your door. yeah I don't think this has it. I think this is a crazy situation where a world leader's ego is larger than the
00:10:32
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appetites of its nation. And what I mean by that, Eric, is I think that the ban on hot dogs is probably because, think about this. What is the most American food that has ever existed? probably The hot dog or the hamburger? It's the hot dog and the hamburger. And, um, because of that, the hot dogs gotta go. That represents the ops. So this is more of a political move. I think so. I think it's a, they're taking a stance here. They said, we don't want your culture's cuisine here.
00:11:02
Think Fresh
My cuisine is not your costume. Exactly. So with that in mind, that is the best explanation I have. I haven't done any research beyond reading a newspaper headline, but I'm pretty sure this is just an act of defiance towards America. Yeah. I mean, this could be it. This could be it. But I'm trying to think of some other Americanized things that they may have.
00:11:28
Think Fresh
It's kind of a a black toaster box there, you know, it's hard to know what's going on with their like what what a typical North Korean meal is like. Yeah. I don't even know if they eat handhelds there. if It's all chopsticks. Yeah. Honestly, I think you're right about it being a political move because they don't even have like American cars there. Yeah, that's banned. Yeah, I think every aspect of life has been kind of designed to promote nationalism and to kind of signal to maybe themselves and to the world that they don't need anyone else. Yeah, well they're on their own. I guess they've done that. They truly do not.
00:12:08
Think Fresh
They're truly, there they might as well be an island, yeah right? It's everything but. They're not thriving, but they're not gone. They're not gone, yeah. If that's the bare minimum for a country, then yeah, I guess. Kind of is. It's kind of wild. So do you think when oh Donald Trump's prophecy of invading Canada comes true,
Canadian Culture & Politics
00:12:30
Think Fresh
do you think we will respond by banning the hot dog?
00:12:36
Think Fresh
I don't think our country could take it i loss too great for canada yeah and for vancouvers especially because if we lose japaog um might go nuclear that's true who but go pearl harbor ah ah us i will probably be in pearl harbor by the time of this episode yeah probably be out on the grounds of pearl harbor when that comment was made which yeah Next episode, stay tuned for the scene report. um I heard you can see the ships kind of sitting on the bottom of the ocean. Really? That's so cool. I cannot wait to be there. All men should go to Pearl Harbor at some point. This is a rite of passage for you. Yeah, I totally agree. Is this going to be the seventh truck to park next to us? It is. Oh my god, there's no way. Dude, one leaves and another one shows up. That was within seconds. That's right. This one looks like it has a backup camera, so I'm less worried. Yeah, the other one's got pretty close to Nick in your web. Yeah.
00:13:29
Think Fresh
Man. Huh. It's pretty funny that this is like, it's just a steady parade of truck after truck. Shout out to my truckers. I think they're all kind of out on the road today celebrating the Trudeau over news. A celebratory convoy. I think that's what we're actually witnessing right now. yeah Honk if you are in agreement with Trump's regs, not Trump.
00:13:51
Think Fresh
Trudeau's resignation. Yeah. It's a. as They're filling the streets for sure. Big big week for the convoy. Yeah, I was um kind of reflecting on Big T's, you know, last nine years in office and 10 years, actually.
00:14:10
Think Fresh
um since he took over, and I gotta say, not many highlights. It was pretty cool that he legalized weed. You did? Yeah. wasn't That was a pretty big deal. I think I'd rather it be illegal. You wanted it to be illegal? That was the only thing that left it or made it kind of cool. I don't know, man. Now that you can buy it in the same trip as a Starbucks,
00:14:33
Think Fresh
Like but you can get a, you know, frat and ah like an edible in one kind of trip. I don't know. It just, it just takes away the magic a little bit. I completely agree. But I think that's what we needed. I think we needed to just like, it really shows that the war on drugs is just legalize it. It stops being interesting and cool. Then people just have no interest in doing it. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like then drop in people that are interested in recreational cannabis use has completely declined because You have to go buy it from like a store now. and you like And there's kind of this anti-capitalist, adjacent vibe that all of these like weed people had. like If you're a stoner, you probably aren't don't follow the conventions of like having a job. you know like ah Regular social circles. you Well, because they had a they had the job of,
00:15:33
Think Fresh
Obtaining and selling the weed distributing the weed, you know, it's true. That was their livelihood So they had to advocate it for it and it encouraged them to kind of like participate in this counterculture But now that the counterculture is just the culture they don't have that anymore And I think that's good for everybody because those people were just so annoying. Mm-hmm like weed people are so annoying But that's my whole point. I think there's more of them now better like more people are like kind of casually doing weed and It's just parents dude. It's like all adults are like dabbling in craft beer and recreational THC consumption And they're all like they think it's crazy. I don't know dude in my opinion like Before it was legal. We didn't have any weed graphic design. That's like now we have all of the weed brands i'm like
00:16:22
Think Fresh
Like this cute farm to table CBD company just popped up on your corner. It's like your rent's going up, buddy. Yeah, but you know and we don't need that. We just need people to like kind of hide behind a dumpster like this guy and sell me, you know, a couple of pre-rolls. Yeah, that's true. Something that is hopefully not laced. Exactly. And if it is that I deserve it. So be it. That's the, what you, the game you're playing, right? Exactly. Yeah. And maybe I just have less sympathy for,
00:16:49
Think Fresh
people having weed and dying, you know? I don't think it happens. I don't know if it ever happens. That probably doesn't happen. No. I mean, if it's laced, then you are probably fine. I understand your point about like, we don't need more avenues for graphic designers to imagine and express themselves. But if they, we didn't have the weed industry, they would just go work at a candle company or perhaps a fourth wave coffee shop.
00:17:19
Think Fresh
there's There's other industries that are tinned fish factory. Like, you know, there's, there's places where graphic design is still like having a Renaissance. Yeah. if It's possible that if we never legalized weed, we wouldn't have the tin fish epidemic. I feel like they're, they're too kind of related. I don't, I'm not sure what the relation is, but they feel similar. Yeah, dude. I don't know. We just, we just don't need it, but.
00:17:48
Think Fresh
What else did ah Trudeau kind of do for us? I know there's way more people on the streets doing fentanyl. yeah Oh, he eliminated all ah student loan interest, which was awesome for me because that means I never have to pay back student loans. When did he do this? That was like his first term, first year. It was one of the first things he did. So in 2015 or 16 or something? Oh, no, sorry. Pandemic. He said, screw it, no more interest. And he never, never brought it back.
00:18:16
Think Fresh
I think that was immediately after I finished paying off the interest of my loan. Probably. That's unfortunate to you. Yeah. It was around that time. I actually do remember this and he would have saved me tens of thousands of dollars, but I instead, I don't think I saved much because I was like, you know, you have to pay the interest part first. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. That's on you, dude, for paying down your loans. Never do that. Always incur debt and never pay it back. This was before I was It's good with money. yeah me yeah Borrow against your assets. I know. Ty, I do actually recall you saying I'm intentionally paying as little as possible for my student loan so that hopefully it just gets eradicated. Eventually. for it like event If you wait long enough on any government loan, like
00:19:02
Think Fresh
The average government, like look at the Roman Empire, it was just a few hundred years. Like these governments have already been around quite a while. It's fragile. It could fall apart at
Hawaiian Leisure & Local Brews
00:19:10
Think Fresh
any time. The minute that happens, your loan is zapped. Yeah, true. So if you don't have to pay a government loan, don't. Yeah. We shouldn't have to pay anything anymore because if Trudeau's quitting, who are we paying? Who are we paying? You guys who quit? No. Dude, yeah, we're just paying stratifys basically. yeah It's just some unthinkable amount to an anonymous group that's supposedly gonna make things better. That's strata baby. Dude that's the new mafia yeah in my opinion. Wow. It's like it's quite literally the new mafia because if you think about it like back in the day if you lived somewhere that was like run by a mob you'd have to pay them
00:19:50
Think Fresh
And if you didn't, they would like break your windows and stuff. yeah And I'm pretty sure that's exactly what a strata would do. If you didn't pay a strata, they would come and break your windows. I think so too. An eye for an eye. yeah A pain for a pain. Yeah, so I think it's really, really the same thing. Yeah, you're right. ah One more thing Big T did that as they're coming to me was he also eradicated and MSP. Do you remember MSP, Eric? and MSP Medical Service Provider.
00:20:18
Think Fresh
something like that every month out of my bank account i was extracted like a hundred bucks to cover our universal health care there was a conflict there it's universal health care why are you taking my money for it it's kind of diffusing the cost of treatments. Yeah, you're subsidizing it. But you know me, I'm not going to go to a doctor. It's super gay to go to a doctor. Yeah, never do that. ah So that that was eliminated as well. So more money in the pocket.
00:20:49
Think Fresh
Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, so there's ah there were a few highlights of the True Day of Sega, obviously a few lows as well. It's kind of interesting though, like if I did those three things in a 10-year career somewhere, I would feel like a total failure and I would probably quit as well. Yeah, fair enough. You kind of want to like a hit every month, you know? You need more hits than Drake if you're going to have the same run as him. Like the annual report, it's got to say something, right? It's got to. Yeah.
00:21:17
Think Fresh
Yeah. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the coming months, Ty. But at the moment, I'm kind of chilling. I don't really care. I don't really care either. I'm on a beach. I am sipping a pina colada. I am getting a rash on my chest. That's right. I'm getting a terrible sunbird right now. I am absolutely nursing this. I've been sunning all day, Ty, and my nuts need some cream. Is there a Hawaiian beer, like a blue chip Hawaiian beer that I can Yeah. Pro cure while I'm on island. I think there's Maui Brewing Company. Did you say you're sunny and you're nuts? Yeah, dude. That's awesome. I go i should do some sunny too. Yeah. Maui Brewing Co. They got a restaurant, they got a brewery. Perfect. Oh, no, dude, this is what I'm talking about. The Kona Big Wave. You've seen this thing around, right? What is this? Is this a big beer? Yeah, Kona Brewing is like the biggest beer in Hawaii. This is what I want to be tapping into this next week. Nice.
00:22:16
Think Fresh
Yeah, my, uh, dry January is going to be on hold, I think for the weekend. Yes, you must. You must i must hold, hold the sobriety sister location on. ah why Oh,
Bar Incident Reflection
00:22:30
Think Fresh
ah wow. who Okay. Very exciting. Very exciting. So we'll have to tap into a couple bottles of the, their big wave golden ale. Very exciting. Yeah. I'm actually, uh, looking forward. This kind of looks like, like our.
00:22:44
Think Fresh
Kind of like honey lager, honey brown lager. Dude, it's it's new year, new beer. You know, guness the Guinness era may or may not be over. We might be in ah the Kona era. It's too early to call it, but that's my prediction. What is your prediction? It might be too early to call it.
00:23:05
Think Fresh
fuck Wow, you're so critical. Sorry. i we My prediction is that it might be too or early to call it. Dude, profound statement. i'm fading co-host I need a Kona right now. Ty, before you fade, we have one more topic to get through. um You've been to the, actually sad, sad news coming out of Chinatown, Vancouver, my old hood. You've been to the Brickhouse bar with me.
00:23:34
Think Fresh
Yes, of course, the Brickhouse Bar, most notably home to ah fish tanks with fish but no water. That's what all my memory of Brickhouse is. Really? Yeah, there's just ah bunch fish just a bunch of dead fish in a fish tank. All I remember from it is like three dusty couches and like a tiny Asian man behind the bar with a wife beater. Yes. And unfortunately, Ty, our bartender, Leo, is his name. he was Convicted what of sexual assault? ah they're Going after everybody. Yeah. Yeah, and um I gotta say saw this coming She really you the way he was acting behind the bar. Yeah. Yeah there are science he was always kind of sleazy dude who I I guess like you kind of just ignored it because it was funny and he was kind of harmless at least with all of my interactions with him I never
00:24:29
Think Fresh
saw him do or say anything, but I always got the vibe that he would. new Yeah. um But yeah, he was just convicted in Vancouver Court for sexually sexually assaulting a minor. Oh, no. Who was a daughter of one of his friends who visited him at the bar kind of after hours. Oh, OK. OK. So it kind of happened on the job, but it's also kind of a family connection. Yeah.
00:24:56
Think Fresh
allegedly allegedly allegedly family connection i don't know if they were actually friends or if she was some kind of pimp but he was supposedly mixing drinks out of sight so he would like make a old-fashioned and then like duck down behind the bar slip something to the drink and then serve it to the young lady who then reported feeling nauseous and dizzy and was kind of in and out of it so this guy drugged this girl and like tried to like make out with her or something. It's just like really crazy. Yo, that's wild that the bartender himself is the one you got to watch out for. You never think that. That's why it's pretty common practice to make the drinks like in front of the person. Yeah. sure yeah to
00:25:42
Think Fresh
like clear yeah keep everything come above board literally imagine if the sandwich artist went in the back with your foot long for a couple minutes just between the meats and the lettuce dude yeah or if they ducked down and did something underneath the bar yeah they take the footy with you like i'd have some questions too yeah dude do you think that ever happens do you think like a girl walks in and the sandwich artist is It's hard, I don't even want to imagine it. I'm sure it's possible. It's 100% possible. It probably happens on a regular basis. yeah um Good or bad. Like maybe, you know, someone could be drugging someone, which would be awful and illegal, but they could also be ducking from the security cameras to add like a extra slice of pepperoni or something. Oh yeah. They're trying to bless you with some avocado maybe down there. Exactly. yeah Yeah, you're right. It's possible that, you know, someone's benefiting
00:26:34
Think Fresh
And it might not be the sandwich artists in every case. That's true. They, it could be the best, both worlds to Eric. They could be ducking to bless you with a laxative in there because they know that meatballs going to plug you up and they want to make sure that you have a good sandwich digestion experience end to end, end to end truly a bumper to bumper bumper to bumper. Okay. Back to this brick house bartender, Eric, real quick. Do you think like innocent until proven guilty is where this question is coming from?
00:27:04
Think Fresh
He's convicted through a due trial. Nevermind then, scrap all of my speculation. That's why I didn't have to say allegedly, but yeah, it's like a real thing that happened. Wow. It's kind of crazy. It's crazy. Well, I hope that Ty and Eric are never taken down for this podcast.
00:27:25
Think Fresh
We won't because we don't do anything legal. That's true. And with that, I will leave you with this, guys. Ahui Hu. That means see you soon or until we meet again in Hawaiian. Ahui Hu. Ahui Hu Hu. Ahui Hu Hu. What else we got here? That's it. Ahui Hu it is. Ahui Hu it is. Ciao. Ciao. Ahui Hu.