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Daily Southampton: Episode 127: Wildcard Wednesday - An ode to hope!

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Southampton – Zak has prepared a wonderful piece about hope and how there is still plenty left to be had! We discuss the hard times we have found ourselves in, and what hope there is left.

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Introduction to the Daily Southampton Podcast

00:00:09
Zak
Hello and welcome to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. Today is myself, who will be hosting this podcast, alongside my good friend and co-host, Greg Elliott. How are you doing, bud?
00:00:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm all right. I'm excited about today. i'm Looking forward to hear what you got to say. I do like these ahp episodes.
00:00:27
Zak
Yeah. it Just be ranting for 25 minutes at Interrupted, except when I ask you to interrupt me.
00:00:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
well We've had a fair share of it going the other way too. yeah Just these episodes are together nicely.
00:00:38
Zak
This is also true. it's It's a skill I have in real life as well as well as the podcasting space, which is always good

Transfer Deadline Day Excitement

00:00:45
Zak
to have. Obviously, we're recording this on transfer deadline day as well, so we've still got a lot of exciting evening with football field information to to fill our boots.
00:00:55
Zak
so yeah this This is sort of, I say i say an essay, it'll probably be easier to actually bounce off of you, but it was some musings that I wrote down after we had a discussion.

Southampton's Past Successes vs Current Struggles

00:01:06
Zak
And it was about how you talked about how 10 years is a long time in football. And you were talking about us potentially being in the Europa League in 10 years time, but I laughed it off.
00:01:14
Zak
But then ten years ago, you know we got into, well not ten years ago, potentially ten years ago at this point, we we got into the Europa League and we had European nights. And it's insane to think about because of our ah current predicament. So like I guess what this is is like a a case for hope and I'll explain some of the reasons why and some of the sort of Long-term listeners and and you, Greg, know that my back my background in football is not as long and as vast as a vast majority of football fans or yourself. and We're often the targets and scapegoats of the but you know being a fake fan. I can't imagine anyone would think I'm a fake fan of Southampton, of all teams.
00:01:54
Zak
because come on, we're not exactly, you know, but it is one of those things. I've also got friends that have adopted clubs later on. One of my friends adopted Bolton as his club because he picked a team one year that got promoted because he didn't want to support his dad's team which was Spurs and now is stuck supporting Ligue 1 Bolton who at one point were almost like minutes away from financial ruin.
00:02:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
But arguably still better than supporting Spurs.
00:02:17
Zak
There you go. a so like sort of University was a huge turning point for me and that's when all of a sudden like a lot of the people I was speaking to and going out drinking with talking about football at the time would go to a bar in Winchester called the Exchange, which often was showed like Champions League. We'd go to quite a lot of just but watch a lot of games and I started going to games with my friend Katie as well. And I think the biggest turning point for me getting what I'd refer to as obsessed and understanding a lot more about it than I thought I did, was obviously breaking my foot year I met my wife in 2014, which resulted in me playing football manager a lot over that summer, a heck of a lot. um So I guess what my point is is that my passion started
00:03:04
Zak
during a time that was later than most and was during a time where the club was moving into peak success mode, right? It was kind of when we got into the Premier League and you had the first great season back with Pochettino.
00:03:18
Zak
i did go to one of the championship games where i can't pretend i didn't remember a lot of it i think we beat west ham and it was some of my cousins and stuff were there it was a great time but again we've been drinking since about 10 am m and got to the game i think it was like a 5 pm game so because my passion started later it's like i experienced the lofty times of sort of the europa league and the bottom of the prem you know, and the championship and whatever we are in the position that we are now.

Critique of Recent Transfer Windows

00:03:51
Zak
And I don't think ever have we looked as much as an easy free points to most other clubs than we do now. And on top of that, we've had two or three of what could potentially be seen as the most disastrous transfer windows our most recent maybe being our worst ever. You know, I think that
00:04:14
Zak
Some of the players, the only real mainstay is Taylor Hubbard-Bellis, really. A lot of the rest of them are all kind of going out the door and lone. We're starting to see rumors of today because we don't know if it's already happened yet, but there's rumors of Cameron Archer potentially leaving.
00:04:29
Zak
and going on some sort of deal to lead. You've even got talk of Flynn Downs, who was such an integral part of our championship escape, potentially also going because he's no longer part of the plans of the current manager because of all these philosophies and systems and other random things that probably, if anyone was looking at the way that the club should have been built long term, should have probably din' done a bit better of a job.
00:04:55
Zak
But it's not the same as it was. It's not the same as it was before I got into football, when you know the club almost

Ownership Challenges and Historical Impact

00:05:04
Zak
ceased to exist. you know Greg, you'll have long memories of that. And a lot of sort of the older fan base will will remember how bad it it got and how we were hoping anyone would take us over. And it's one of the things that you know when we make the make the sort of jokes and laugh about the new ownership, and don't get me wrong, I'll get onto them.
00:05:24
Zak
I'll get there. But we are we do have owners that but have money and the club doesn't look like it's about to liquidate. And as the pessimist, that is how I will start my case for hope. And it hasn't been the full amount of time before we take an ad break, but it feels like a pivotal time to do it. So Greg, can we hear from our partners at Sengcaster?
00:05:48
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00:06:13
Zak
So we are back and one of the things I wanted to start off with is sort of you you look our owners now and look at where the ownership has been and when Lieber took over you could tell how much he cared about the club and he saved it and and that's why you know he's he's an integral part of the Southampton story. His daughter wasn't as much into football she kept it going I think probably for her dad's sake But it's like if I owned a family business that I had absolutely no real passion or stake in there for.
00:06:47
Zak
I would also probably at some point want to not work there. One of the bigger problems is who took that big percentage, right? So it's ah ah it's a part of the Southampton history that as much as we complain about Sports Republic being clueless, let's not pretend that Gao who took over beforehand was significantly worse. There was so much excitement potentially when he came in, except there wasn't. There wasn't an ounce of excitement because the first thing that everyone remember might have not remembered is that he failed the ownership test the first time around.
00:07:16
Zak
and then ah ah did some jiggery-pokery to make sure that that didn't happen the second time round. We then went on to be sponsored by... Well, it felt like some sort of illegal shell company, right? Like LD Sports. Greg, what are LD Sports? To this day, can you tell me?
00:07:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Nope somewhere between a gambling brand and a retail brand that didn't really exist something
00:07:38
Zak
Right, it's supposed to be some sports media company. If I remember rightly, it was like us, and there was another, I want to say Spanish La Liga or Portuguese team that were the two faces of LD sports. And it was just weird shell articles. like like someone had like in like It's like somebody had been told what a website was, and that they built a website off that description. and And other than that, they didn't have anything. now It was that bad, just to remind everybody, that mid-season they had to withdraw the shirts and replace them with new shirts for the new sponsor. So if you'd already purchased a shirt like I had, they would send you, as if because you showed proof of purchase, they'd send you a new shirt out with the sponsor on it. Which obviously didn't wasn't a much better sponsor, but at least the company was like
00:08:28
Zak
real? I think that you know there's a lot to be said about our sponsorship now but it very much felt like at the time we were kind of being owned by and sponsored by something that wasn't real and it kind of felt gross and it was some of his later comments and his you know you talk about our ownership now And you talk about how the lack of communication and sometimes it's frustrating they don't just say stuff. But then again, we've also recently just covered are now, you know, the now person chairman in charge of football operations, you just get who gave a interview to media, which he didn't have to do, you can just say nothing.
00:09:07
Zak
Acknowledging the situation, acknowledging how bad it is, but like you would have never really seen Gao say a lot. In fact, he gave an interview and he gave an interview to former Eastley MP Mim Davis, Mim Davis, who was also Sports Secretary for the Conservative Government at the time.
00:09:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thank you very much.
00:09:23
Zak
And that's why we got the famous quote everyone knows I'm about say, which is I'm not treating Southampton as a pig to be fattened and sold. I'm treating it as a child, but my children must believe they cannot depend on the boss. I've said to Southampton, I am now your father, but I'm putting on you on the right track. You need to feed yourself.
00:09:40
Zak
that That to me is makes no sense in because if that if he was trying to grow something and and letting stuff happen to do its own thing, usually parentrot you're a
00:09:52
Zak
you know You'll give your world to your kids, right? You wouldn't you wouldn't just kind of go, great.
00:09:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:09:58
Zak
Well, now I've got you, and I own you. Figure it out. Figure it out. No investment. No nothing. Just a lot of it was very, a lot of the rhetoric that came out is just somebody that kind of would rock up and is realistically just trying to cash out what you could from the club. right and that you know wasn't People think it's bad now. People think the ownership of bad now, it was worse. Just because we didn't get relegated. Remember, we very much almost did. We we were like a Gabi Adini goal away from being in the championship with an owner that didn't invest. And we could have ended up like Reading. Easy. It's it's it's not that hard. It's happened to you many clubs before.
00:10:40
Zak
So, you know, we've had lots of managers that have been great. We've had Pochettino, we've had Cooman in some regards passing through, depending on, you know, your opinions. He, as mark regardless of your opinions on him now, came in and performed some little miracles, I guess, and as much as he was ridiculed for beating Liverpool,
00:11:05
Zak
imagine the lofty heights of us beating Liverpool right now. if you know Imagine Russell Martin shedding a tear from the corner of his eye as he managed to beat Liverpool, it would be like absolute football poetry, yet this man who had spent a lot of his time battling Klopp and this man who had a lot of passion and love for the club, you know being emotional about a game that we're all very emotional about, otherwise most of you wouldn't be listening to a daily podcast talking about a football club and a vast majority of us wouldn't get as angry as we get about things because we We care about the club.
00:11:36
Zak
So that's just ah little weird personal thing that I just wanted to put in there. Because I find that him getting a lot of flack for that is real toxic. It's just a bit the big weird.
00:11:47
Zak
so So yeah, that was that was that.

Managerial Changes and Their Consequences

00:11:50
Zak
And then in 2022, the club was brought out by by Sports Republic. Ralph was kept.
00:11:58
Zak
And as much as we want to say, you know oh, well,
00:12:03
Zak
you know They've made so many bad decisions, like well yeah but they brought they tried to bring in somebody who they thought knew about focalrite. I think his name is Gareth Shields. He was the guy that was in charge of like Man City's recruitment. And what happened is we we basically brought in the entirety of Man City, or at least most of their youth team.
00:12:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:18
Zak
right We had Bazounou come in, who is still a starter now. If not not in comparison to Ramsdale, but we played most of the championship and probably it'll be there's an interesting case there to as to whether he got injured, we would have bought Ramsdale or not.
00:12:31
Zak
right
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:33
Zak
so It's a hypothetical, but we had Romeo Lavia that ended up producing us tons of money in sales. Oribo, who has now come into form and has had patches of form, but has always been a solid squad player since he's been in. Adozi, who's now in the Champions League on loan, who will probably be able to do more as he matures. We also brought in Bela Koch up at that window. Say what you will, he did play quite well during the season we went down, but if he played better, we wouldn't have gone down.
00:13:03
Zak
I can say that at most players.
00:13:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm.
00:13:05
Zak
But it didn't work out, right? 12 points from 14 and it was dramatically bad, which is funny because what we had killed for 12 points now Hassan Hoot was gone. And then they made their second biggest mistake, which was to bring in Nathan Jones, which was possibly the most disastrous pick they could have. And they have hopefully learned from that, right? And I think that there are already signs that they have. Juric might not be the best ever, but Juric was the one they wanted originally. I think he was he was polite he was somewhere else at the time, and they couldn't really get him. So they they got somebody they saw as gettable, but they they clearly now
00:13:44
Zak
are relying on things but mate its again he's just he's just entirely a quote machine at this point
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Statistically one of the best managers in Europe. Let's not forget
00:13:54
Zak
and And he was, you know, he was, what, a caricature? He created probably the biggest reaction out of every Saints fan on Twitter I've ever seen, which was a which was uniting the entire fan base behind hashtag Jones out. And, you know, still have fond memories of that time. We were all united in our absolute desire to make him leave. And then he left and went on to bigger brighter things at Charlton. No offense, Greg. I know that your dad played for Charlton, but You know Yeah, it's not it's not like it was back in the day but even even with that they they still tried Let's not forget that the two players that are supposedly transformed in most recent form were purchased in that January panic by window So it's still a mana on a watchy both purchased during that time
00:14:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
what the lofty heights they once were unfortunately.
00:14:44
Zak
And then we also have Bree, who is, I don't think gets half as as much credit as he should, considering he was, I would have counted him basically as a free at 750,000 pounds, you know? like The fact he's getting picked over other players says a lot, the fact that he has now been sort of worked his way into squads managed by well at this point it will be four different managers if you conclude sell us as well shows a lot and then also alcraz who ironically again buying players for systems not very good because we sold a player that would probably suit us very well now and a fan favorite i missed charlie alcraz he was a good lad and also orsage which yeah that didn't turn out that well
00:15:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:15:27
Zak
Really? But again, it's it's interesting that it was seen as a disaster, it was seen as panic buying, but now, finally, some of those some of those situations are bearing fruit, right? We're still probably going to get relegated, but like those players were brought in for something and they are showing the qualities they have and why they were identified as players to be brought in. But the last we were relegated and changes happened again up top.
00:15:56
Zak
And that's when the club, you know, they decided not to hold on to sell us. He's gone on to, you know, move on to Reading, ah ah now Hull City. You know, his career in stock is growing, but they realized they needed a manager to do better. And they wanted to get a successful manager who would play exciting, quote unquote, at times.
00:16:15
Zak
not always the best football to watch. Russell Barton in 2023 and regardless of our opinions now on how out of his depth he was in the Premier League, we did really really well in the Championship. We could have kept with Sellers and we could have ended up mid-table, we could be stuck in that loop of losing all of our players in the Championship forever but we didn't. It was gross, it was not the prettiest at the time, it was somehow a massive unbeaten run which still managed to make us sleep finish fourth but we were promoted
00:16:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
we could only draw.

Operational Shortcomings in Management

00:16:46
Zak
Yeah but well not as bad as Burnley now mate, have you been keeping up with their Nildills?
00:16:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Isn't it like double digit consecutive games or something stupid like that?
00:16:56
Zak
It is is a c incredibly upsetting. but that's kind of what happened right is that we we came back up but during that time and towards the end before we came back up and before we knew we were going to come back up we also lost some important parts of the footballing side of the business right they put too many of their eggs in one basket one of those baskets being Jason Wilcox who who who's was never replaced and him leaving was a problem because he was kind of the supposed brains behind a lot of the actual footballing aside of the business and all of those things kind of caused the situation that we've got now where up until Djuric kind of came in with his people it meant that it was essentially Russell Martin and Matt Gill
00:17:48
Zak
And to this day, we still don't know who planned that transfer window, right? It's a very weird thing.
00:17:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:53
Zak
But we'll talk about that after a word from our partners at the Global Sports Podcast Network.
00:18:00
Zak
The Global Sports Podcast Network is changing the face of football podcasting with dedicated daily content for every Premier League team, women's football, anti-football, and a daily Premier League wrap-up broadcasted in five different languages. This is your one-stop shop for your daily football fix. Find GSPN wherever you find your usual podcasts. And we're back. So how how you keep it on, Greg? You good?
00:18:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'm doing it mate, I'm looking forward to getting to the hope bit.
00:18:24
Zak
Yeah, so I'm ah'm very aware, right? So I'm afraid there's still some downsides to talk about first, but we'll we'll get there. In fact, one of the two were lines down on my notes shortly is, but Zach, where is the hope? Because I'm aware of how this plays out. but Obviously we came back up and Jason Wilcox wasn't here, we had Russell Martin still and he was given far too much time to turn around a bad situation it did not come to fruition. Some of that is definitely down to potential refereeing decisions. We are not the only club that suffered those potential refereeing decisions. Go back to any crossover we've had, go back to any mention of the name Anthony Taylor and everybody is going to be upset.
00:19:05
Zak
We were on the worst run we've ever had after a season where we probably had the best run we'd ever had. We had the heights of Wembley and the lows of the Tottenham game. So Greg, you asked me, where is the hope?
00:19:18
Zak
I like to believe in the good of people and I like to believe that people can learn, right? And you've brought this up quite often too and this is where we're quite aligned in our values of the fact that as much as I think I get angry about the ownership than you, despite the fact that you're a season ticket get holder and spend probably significantly more at the consignment stands than I ever would, like because you're you there, you use all of the facilities they've introduced, right things like the the fan zone you go, it's a nicer place for you to go. to Your kids are just wandering around in circles outside the game. So, you know, it's too late for this season, but they've they finally made some sort of a correct decision. They've brought in a manager that they know, a manager that they trust, a manager that they that is on their radar beforehand. They have removed the CEO that was in charge of the sort of money side of things and brought in you know their primary investor. Ultimately,
00:20:13
Zak
You know, no manager was ever going to come in. And I know that there's a lot of sort of anger around the fact that Djuric hasn't got a win until now. Right. I think we kind of our our opinions have probably changed since I started writing this because we finally have got that first win. But that was sort of like our new manager bounces and they all kneel at Fulham. And it was that was awful. But at the same time, no manager coming into these positions have had a massive new manager bounce, right? Like, Leicester have replaced their new manager with Ruby Lamb history, had like a game or two and have since lost everything.
00:20:46
Zak
I guess where I'm at in my opinion of the ownership is that if you think of Southampton Football Club as a a car that they took their foot off the gas and the car's broken down so they're trying to fix it and hopefully this time they'll learn to not just use duct tape right because that's that's

Hopes for Strategic Improvements

00:21:04
Zak
what they did. They they they came in New football owners have done other things before they chucked a bunch of money somebody they trusted in the man city recruitment for the event or maybe we can just what everything with kids didn't work out that way suddenly we're relegated they they they speak to this other guy they get this other guy that's now been poached by manchester united hope it's going really well for you and i will cook so they seem to have a great time.
00:21:27
Zak
i And now actually have plans again to go, well, maybe that was a mistake that we made by not bringing in a director of football. They are trying to bring in a new director of football. You know, there's a lot of talk behind the scenes. Apparently it's to do with work permits. Obviously they don't have the elite sporting ones, the same as players do. So it's a lot more difficult than it would be otherwise.
00:22:12
Zak
But like there is investment there. They are talking to the media. They are making changes behind the scenes. Whether it's too little or too late for the season, what you can hope is that lessons have been learned. Because once you've been relegated twice, I'm pretty sure you don't really want to be relegated for a third time. But there are other teams around us who have done supposedly the right things, right? Ipswich got the lap but I expected not to go down. Leicester not too long ago won the Premier League. We talk about our fall from Grayson, our fall from the heights of Europa League. Leicester literally won the Premier League.
00:22:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:47
Zak
Right, like that is how far they fell and then they managed to get themselves back up There is potentially a lot of clubs around us as well that have broken financial rules with no punishment, right? Like we kind of all knew that was happening because they've realized if they punish everybody with consistent point deductions They're not gonna have a league left And we all know that that kind of stuff is a bit dodge, right? But we are one of the ones to benefit with having money left over but We do not have a fairy tale where some owner has swooped in and we're not going to get everything we want. But our club does fight like does live to fight another day. We are sustainable in a way that means that we are not going to just collapse tomorrow. We will get to support Southampton Football Club for the foreseeable future.

Optimism for Southampton's Future

00:23:33
Zak
Does it mean that we're going to get even more ridiculous types of shirts and shirt sponsors and stuff is going to get more expensive? Yeah, that's unfortunately the state of the world and the state of football. Football is a product now. regardless of whether we want it or not for it to be as sustainable and to have the entertainment value that we want out of it it means that football is just going to be like the way it is it would be lovely to have it back the olden days if you want that you can go to your local sunday sunday league team or alternatively go see a non-league team right people like easily crying out for fans on a weekly basis but we all know that that's not how picking a football club mostly works
00:24:07
Zak
We for our younger listeners us I guess what I wanted to point out was that football can change the blink of an eye again in in a decade. I joked and I said I thought Greg was mad for saying in 10 years time we could be in Europa League but we could. In 10 years time we could accidentally win the Premier League. You think that's mad but the season that Leicester won the season before they almost went down.
00:24:29
Zak
is mad.
00:24:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:31
Zak
you know You look at the state of the football now, like Manchester United still considered like a giant, but since Fergie left, you know you've looked at the string of managers and the players they've had. You saw yesterday, even you know Marcus Rashford has now gone, another one of their sort of talisman players where you know football is different to how it was, but it can all change so quickly.
00:24:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:24:53
Zak
you know You'd have never thought when he scored 30 goals in a season, he would leave United. right
00:24:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:58
Zak
and for our older listeners like you've seen the club go down and rise from the ashes time and time and time and time again and we'll do it again it just unfortunately i don't know what it is about this season the damage was done so early it's like it feels so much more painful than it is but we are all here because we love the club. We are all along for the ride no matter what. So here's to championship nights next year where hopefully we can rebuild those head in the cloud moments and Greg will be able to take his kids to Wembley again after telling them that we don't go every other year.
00:25:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Absolutely.
00:25:37
Zak
Or it will be really exciting that maybe we'll win the league again or it won't be but we will be here to fight another day and we will still be able to be supporters of Southampton Football Club and We are not the only people to suffer in the world of footballing chaos It just turns out it's it's our year to be laughed at but even then I think that United and Spurs have got us beat and
00:25:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:26:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. No, you're right. Well, uh, What a fantastic point you've made. Brilliant. Uh, I'd go back to that very interview with drag and so like the one you've mentioned that he didn't have to do, but decided to go to talk sport and, and put himself in and talk about the situation. And he said something that a lot of people but sort of took out of context and took the mic out of where it was like, you know, business isn't always a success. First time you've got to try and try again. And look, Richard Branson.
00:26:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
our older listeners will might remember once launched Virgin Cola so if you want to write Nathan Jones off as Virgin Cola and that goes on to become the global powerhouse that Virgin is today then great I'm here for it it happens
00:26:38
Zak
Oh, he did!
00:27:13
Zak
but But we do have owners that I think care more about the club than people realize. And if that's just because they have a financial investment in the club, that's fine because that means they'll protect that investment.
00:27:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:27
Zak
But we will we will still have a club to go and enjoy for years to come because other clubs and other fans have not been as lucky in recent years, right?
00:27:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely.
00:27:37
Zak
So, so that's kind of where I'm at is that, you know, as the pessimist of the podcast.
00:27:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
ah ah Very well put, and you're right.
00:27:43
Zak
it's my case five
00:27:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
It was very well put, you're right, we need to get behind it and they have made mistakes and come out and owned it and they are going to continue to make mistakes because that is how the world works but they care and that's what matters.
00:28:00
Zak
yeah and and that And that's where I'm at. And as much as sometimes the the idea of recording after we've lost five nil is another sense of just dread, even if it is also quite cathartic, you know it it will not last forever.
00:28:16
Zak
It's all temporary, everything. so So we just need to enjoy the good and the bad and and hope that the decisions they make in the future are our better ones. Simple as that.
00:28:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
If it leads to a poor and actually winner at St Mary's, that might be all this season needs to turn the positive tide.
00:28:27
Zak
That's where I'm at.
00:28:36
Zak
And if it's a Suleimada, we're at St.
00:28:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
They're getting more money out of you anyway, so it's a win-win.
00:28:40
Zak
Mary's.
00:28:45
Zak
So you very much for joining us today, Saints fans, if you're still here. I realised that that was a bit of a long one. and it's a bit of Thank you very much, Greg, for for being my duck and and listening to my rants.
00:28:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
right Thank you.
00:28:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Brilliantly prepared. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
00:29:01
Zak
It's been, yeah, it's just, again, all of this sparked from you going, well, you know, 10 years time, you can be back in the Europa League. And I thought you were insane. And then it turns out I had so many more thoughts about it than I did. So as usual, you can find us on all the social media, Facebook, Twitter slash X, Instagram, TikTok. We are on the official GSP and YouTube channel now as well.
00:29:21
Zak
So yeah, give us a like give us a follow ah Rate the podcast Rate the podcast if you're enjoying it. We certainly love putting out content every day You know, it's been one of the things that have helped us get through what has been a real tough season But we look forward to seeing you in the next one, which will potentially be something figure it out. yeah Thank you and goodbye everybody