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Daily Southampton: Episode 137 - Loan Watch!
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Southampton – It's wildcard Wednesday so we cast our eyes away to the players we have out on loan and how they are getting on.
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Introduction to Daily Southampton
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott, and once again I am joined today by my good friend, Zach Ingo Finch.
00:00:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
How you doing, Zach?
00:00:21
Zak
Yeah, right mate. It'll be Wednesday when you guys listen to this, but yeah.
00:00:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's it.
00:00:26
Zak
Whoa.
00:00:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
It's Wildcard, Wildcard Wednesday.
Wildcard Wednesday: Topics Beyond Southampton Saints
00:00:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
The day where we frantically scramble for something to talk about that isn't Saints, because that is miserable at the moment, and we don't need any more of that.
00:00:39
Zak
strictly true. I'm happy to do a historical essay on somebody that we randomly have been involved with or whatever.
00:00:46
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, you're right. Looking back at the better times of being a Saints fan rather than focusing on the present.
00:00:51
Zak
yeah yeah the past or someone that could potentially build the future. Absolutely not the present.
00:00:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, absolutely. Well, speaking of the future, that's a beautiful segue.
Ronnie Edwards's Impact at QPR
00:01:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Today we're going to be doing a little bit of a loan watch, something that we don't normally pay a lot of attention to as the season goes on. But, you know, we've currently got eight players out on loan.
00:01:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Sorry, seven players out on loan, you know, building for the future and doing things potentially. So I thought we'd check in and see how they were getting on. So I've got it all in front of me. So I guess that could just get straight to it.
00:01:28
Zak
For sure.
00:01:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
So the first on my list is Ronnie Edwards, who he's gone out on loan to QPR.
00:01:38
Zak
They really, really like him. I've seen a lot of social media content and a lot of people being like, oh my goodness gracious me, we need to sign this lad immediately.
00:01:51
Zak
And us crying out for a defender, which is very funny.
00:01:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
funny Yeah.
00:01:55
Zak
Very funny. And obviously, if I remember rightly, we signed him because he was like, remember who he was on loan to. was on loan to a League One side, right? And he was absolutely bossing it. And so we were like, yeah, let's let's let's hit this guy up. And then...
00:02:08
Zak
He had an unimpressive debut, if I remember rightly, in like one of our cup games. And then after that, they were like, no. And then like he's gone on loan to a championship side and very similar to somebody else probably on your list.
00:02:20
Zak
So Shea Charles, absolutely, absolutely bossing it.
00:02:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:02:23
Zak
So, yeah.
Shea Charles's Performance at Sheffield Wednesday
00:02:24
Zak
What else have you got to tell me?
00:02:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, so he's had he's had eight appearances for them since he's gone out on loan in January.
00:02:31
Zak
Dang.
00:02:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
He scored a goal from centre-back.
00:02:33
Zak
Dang. okay
00:02:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Perfect. He played one game at right-back, but mostly has been slotting in as one of the main centre-backs. And in his most recent game, managed to help keep a clean sheet in a 4-0 win against Derby. Yeah.
00:02:50
Zak
Dang. I'm pretty sure I've seen he's had like a couple mana match awards as well. Like he is somebody that's clearly gone out and and impressed and fair play to him. Just...
00:03:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, he's played... He's become a solid mainstay in that team. like he yeah He wasn't in the squad for the first game, presumably because he'd only just got there like that day for Watford. Then he he had half an hour against Luton at the start of January.
00:03:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
And since then, he has played every single minute.
00:03:21
Zak
Dang.
00:03:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
say And in fact, it was in that 4-0 win against Derby that he got his goal.
00:03:23
Zak
Do we know...
00:03:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:27
Zak
Good lord. Do we know where QPR sit at the table? Like, is this one of those situations where they potentially get promoted and poach him? I don't... I can't imagine QPR being at that space, but you also don't want to mug off the entirety of QPR.
00:03:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Off the top of my head, without having the table in front of me while it loads, I think that they are in contention for playoffs, potentially, or they're
00:03:50
Zak
Yeah, because that's... Okay.
00:03:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
not quite. i mean, it is a bit of a crazy league, the championship, but that might be just a little bit.
00:03:58
Zak
Yeah, but you're right. that that That could change towards the
QPR Playoff Prospects and Loaned Players
00:04:00
Zak
end. But yeah, because where I'm at is if if he's doing a good number for us now and some of the rumours, which you know we don't usually pay too much attention to are true, but also that we could have a mass clear out at the end of the season, potentially someone that's lovely to bring back, but also it's difficult, right?
00:04:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:19
Zak
like
00:04:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:19
Zak
We are the epitome of don't fall in love with lone players and then we fall in love with lone players and
00:04:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Could do a real solid job for us next year.
00:04:27
Zak
Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.
00:04:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I guess if the price is right, we might not say no. 13th, but four points off of the playoffs.
00:04:34
Zak
God, that's...
00:04:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Man, the championship's a nuts league, innit?
00:04:37
Zak
What a year. I mean, to be fair, the Premier League's been pretty weird this year too, mate. We've already discussed like Spurs and and Man United before being in like places that we would never, ever expect to see them.
00:04:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I know, I'm just getting excited for next year already, mate, that's all it is.
00:04:47
Zak
So...
00:04:51
Zak
What do you mean, Greg? What happened to your hopes that we might survive?
00:04:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Anyway, moving to the list, as you alluded to, next on my list is Shea Charles, out on loan at Sheffield Wednesday,
00:05:04
Zak
Hmm.
00:05:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
and it's no secret that he beloved by Sheffield Wednesday fans. Yeah. I've got some stats before we go on on a bit of a chat about him. So he's played 30 games for them this season.
00:05:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's got one goal and five assists, although we know that's not really what he's in the team for.
00:05:27
Zak
Hmm.
00:05:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
But the impressive stat for me is he has played 95% of their minutes in the championship this season.
00:05:37
Zak
That's decent, considering he was pretty much a bit player last season. So, like, go in and get your first-team football. And I'm wondering if that's one of the reasons, potentially, why, right? Like, I feel like he's going to have to take the the place of Big Les.
00:05:50
Zak
I just don't see Sheffield Wednesday having the buying power.
00:05:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
100%. Agreed. Yeah.
00:05:54
Zak
Like, i feel I feel really bad for them in January because, like...
00:05:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
great
00:05:58
Zak
I don't know what transpired, but obviously us terminating the loan during their fans forum, bringing him back to Staplewood for like two weeks to just let him go back there.
00:06:09
Zak
And I think that there was a lot of fear that Les was going to go back to Chelsea to kind of fill in their injury crisis. Because apparently, despite having a thousand members, like thousand people in your team, you can still have an injury crisis.
00:06:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:06:21
Zak
And... But yeah, I feel like that's not smart. That's got to be so disruptive, right? Like, okay, you're in a place, you've been playing well all season, you you've been doing really well.
00:06:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:06:32
Zak
You've been brought back to
Sheffield Wednesday's Future Uncertain
00:06:33
Zak
potentially either coming to the first team, but not really. We haven't quite decided, actually, no, we don't need you to. You can go back tomorrow.
00:06:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think it's less disruptive in a loan spell because in a loan spell they're not spending their entire week there, right?
00:06:40
Zak
It's quite a while.
00:06:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like the whole deal is they spend some of their time at Staplewood and some of their time at Sheffield. So it's sort of a weird split. So it probably wasn't as disruptive as it could have been, but It's not ideal, but, you know, he he got back there. Yeah,
00:07:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah like, he's doing a job there.
00:07:03
Zak
Yeah, well, like he's he's having a nice he' something the most time.
00:07:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's getting the minutes in. You say they might not have the Bayern powers, Zach, but for all of the craziness and tumultuous we talked about around that time and around that fan forum, they currently sit in ninth, only three points out of the side of the playoffs. So, I mean, it's not,
00:07:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
outside of the realms of possibility that there'll be a Premier League team trying to buy him next season, which is...
00:07:25
Zak
but But what about all of the people that want Danny Roll to be our manager?
00:07:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Right. Well... Yeah. Look.
00:07:38
Zak
Look, it'll be where will be, mate, right?
00:07:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
We'll burn that bridge when we get to it. Like, I don't want to write Juric off yet, because even if my opinion changes of him, and he does become... a manager that we think needs to be gone, Sports Republic might not agree and they proved that they're going to stick to their guns one way or the other with Russell Martin. So...
00:07:59
Zak
Yeah, wo we'll see what happens, right? But either way, it's glad I'm glad that he's doing well.
Sam Madozi's Return at Anderlecht
00:08:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Okay, so we'll move on to the rest of this, but first a message from our partners at Bionic.
00:08:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we are back. Okay, carrying on through the list. There is a pattern here, Zach, of players doing much better away from us than they do with us.
00:08:59
Zak
Yeah, I think I mentioned it yesterday.
00:09:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's going to really shine through at the start of this list, but, you know, stick with it. So Sam Madozi, obviously, as we all know, out on loan at Anderlecht, playing in the Europa League this season, although he's most of his games have come in the the Belgian Premier League.
00:09:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
14 appearances, two goals and one assist in the season so far. But in recent weeks has been out of action with a hip injury. He's been out for about four weeks.
00:09:27
Zak
Okay. Yeah, I was wondering, I do keep an eye on the team sheets and who who's out and what they're all up to. And obviously, like I kind of like, I have a weird soft spot friend that I think I've talked about in the past.
00:09:40
Zak
So it's nice to see him doing well there. But yeah, it'd be...
00:09:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, that out Out with injury for the last four weeks, but in their most recent game, he was back on the bench as an a new substitution. So hopefully back to fitness. And it was just a knock and nothing too serious to to contend with.
Juan and Matsuki at Gustepe
00:09:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hopefully be back in fine form soon. Next on my list is Juan, who's out on loan to Gustepe, who's our young centre forward that we sort of bought in and shipped straight off.
00:10:10
Zak
Yeah, genuinely, I'm sat there like, who? I genuinely, that must have flown under my radar because obviously sorry I paid attention to Masuki and then we had like Liss and we had other people.
00:10:21
Zak
And like, was he the one who was also supposedly signing contract at the same time as Wellington?
00:10:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's right, yeah.
00:10:26
Zak
Because we had, yeah, okay, that makes more sense.
00:10:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
The young Brazilian lad, yeah. So he's he's out in a Step A at the moment. He's played 19 games for them this season. He's got six goals and four assists.
00:10:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
But he is currently out injured with an unknown injury, as from the last, most recent game week in that league.
00:10:48
Zak
Not ideal.
00:10:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
not Not a huge amount of news that I've been able to find around him.
00:10:53
Zak
See, play us like that.
00:10:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Turkish league reporting is not the easiest to come across in English language. It has to be said, but what I have written down is that he averages 208 minutes per goal.
00:11:00
Zak
it Just not.
00:11:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, uh, fits in nicely with the rest of our strike force. In fact, that's probably a high average.
00:11:10
Zak
That's, yeah, it's going to be better than most of our straight forwards, mate.
00:11:12
Zak
But one of those weird signings where, like, I don't know whether or not he feels like he is ever going to be a Southampton signing, right? I don't know how you feel about that, but there are there are some players that we've sort of brought for the group model that do very much feel like that, right?
00:11:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:11:28
Zak
Like, because...
00:11:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, like the young goalkeeper, though, is it Liz? Matthias Liz? Yeah.
00:11:32
Zak
Yeah, like we spoke about, because obviously he had like a pre-season appearance, right, before completing a transfer that was, no one said how much money it was, which I find weird that you can just like not no say how much it is in an internal transfer, because theoretically, couldn't it just be like a quid? I'm sure there are rules around it, get me wrong.
00:11:50
Zak
But either way, don't know how I feel about that kind of stuff. And it's the same of a couple of players, like where you think, because obviously we're bringing it in some players specifically for the under-21s, which you'd like to think means eventually they're going to be promoted into the senior squad.
00:12:05
Zak
But when we're just shipping them directly out on loan, We haven't really utilised pulling them back in anymore. And as i brief as I briefly discussed in our sports episode, like maybe that will start to change.
00:12:21
Zak
But like, you know, where I'm at, mate, is that you're like, oh, not about as good as the rest of of our strike force. I'm relatively sure that nobody has six goals for our team this year.
00:12:31
Zak
like
00:12:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a very valid point.
00:12:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, fair point. Well presented.
00:12:34
Zak
with With about five or six get games more.
00:12:37
Zak
And yeah, I guess it's the Turkish league. And yeah, Torpoor did all right there. But also, like, who knows, mate?
00:12:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:44
Zak
Who knows?
00:12:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Uh, it's, you're right. Uh, and you know, he's showing that he can compete and score goals and what more can you, and, you know, because step he's sort of flying high in the league at the moment, to be fair, like six, which I think is sort of higher than where they normally expect to finish in the league. So, yeah, fair, fair play, uh, sticking with the step a and the group sign in theme, uh,
00:13:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
Matsuki, who is an attacking midfielder, the the young Japanese lag you mentioned earlier, out on loan. He has had 19 appearances for them this season with one goal and four assists.
00:13:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Seems to be a fairly solid, fairly mainstay in their team, either coming on off the bench or starting at the attacking midfield role, but Yeah, seems to be doing alright.
00:13:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Couple of goals, getting involved in it. Again, Turkish league news.
00:13:42
Zak
Yeah, I'll just have to see.
00:13:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Otherwise, hard to come by.
00:13:46
Zak
Yeah, it's going to be it's difficult, right? Like, I feel like they should do, they should do a better job. Like, they used to have a segment that literally was like Lone Watch, where they would talk about players out on loan or like,
00:13:57
Zak
I think they should do a better job in generally keeping up to date and keeping everybody up to date with, especially if it's players they want to bring back, right? Like I can understand why sort of like with a Ben Burrits and Diaz or Sam Amu, like
00:14:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
Ben Broughton-Diaz's Loan Evaluation
00:14:10
Zak
he's gone now.
00:14:11
Zak
There's an obligation to buy. So there's not really any point to letting us know how his progress is going from like a club perspective.
00:14:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:17
Zak
But, you know, and and I guess with Ben Burrits and Diaz, which i don't know if it's on your list, he's on your list, but like,
00:14:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
He is on my list. Yeah, we'll get to Yeah.
00:14:24
Zak
Yeah, but like with with that, it's one of the things where like I guess... I wouldn't call them rivals, but you know what mean? like It's because it's like a championship English side...
00:14:34
Zak
we really get as much information as we probably should on how our players doing. Because that that in that sense, the idea is that probably he isn't going to return, right? i don't think there's an obligation to buy with him.
00:14:44
Zak
But I don't know if he'd want to come back. And I know that he's been quite coy about and it's whether or not Sheffield can afford him. But yeah, with some of these like other sort of signings, it would be if they are supposedly Southampton players and they are going to come into the squad at some point, I think it would be nice to get information in a more digestible format.
00:15:01
Zak
And if that information is being put out there, then like and you know about it and it's it's not just an article like a one-liner on San Andreas website please let us know because I'd love to love to have that as like an actual source of information rather than us having to yeah it's difficult right it shouldn't be
00:15:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
100% because have gone out and searched for this and and I didn't find such an article looked on my standard couple of statistics websites and i I had a cursory Google through the local newspapers of of the clubs involved to see if they had anything particularly interesting to say.
00:15:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
But yeah, absolutely, let us know. Ben Broughton-Diaz is next on my list, but we'll come back to that after a message from our partners at Zencastr.
00:15:46
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00:16:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
and Okay, yeah, so as you alluded to, i didn't really know whether to include him on this list because... piss up in the air as to whether he comes back but I think that you mentioned it's an option to buy not an obligation and whether they'll be in a position to do that for the price we want I don't know but he's made six appearances sir for the Blades since joining them online two goals one assist started off really well in the in the start of those appearances that's where all of those goals and goal appearances came from
00:16:21
Zak
Yeah.
00:16:26
Zak
I think that's why he's been very quiet.
00:16:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
but didn't manage a huge amount in 55-minute appearance and a 3-0 loss to Hull, and had like a 19-minute cameo in their most recent game where they beat Swansea.
00:16:55
Zak
and so It's a difficult run, right? like you When we were the start the season, we thought maybe it would a good transfer. Again, we saw an an open training. We were like, maybe this is exactly what we need.
00:17:05
Zak
And then was kind of played in, i think, sort of sort of out of position. But then i feel like by the time Juric came in, if there was a chance for that sort of quote-unquote redemption arc for him, I think that it had already been decided by that point that he wasn't going to be here, right?
00:17:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:20
Zak
like that thats That seems to be the case for a couple of the loanies we've got the and a couple of people that transferred out.
00:17:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:25
Zak
It's that, like... they had, they were like, nah, shut up, shut right? And then they've just not had the opportunity under a new manager.
00:17:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Listen, he might come back in the summer and, you know, clean slate, fresh start, do a job for us in the championship but where you know he's capable of scoring goals and you great, fine, good.
00:17:41
Zak
Yeah.
00:17:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Let's hope. but or we make some money off him.
00:17:48
Zak
but Or, we make a profit, which is insane.
00:17:54
Zak
Yeah.
00:17:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah, it just seemed to struggle under all of the systems here. And I think like we alluded to it when he was playing that when he did get on the pitch, he was, I think he was played completely out of position.
00:18:07
Zak
Yeah.
00:18:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Like he was supposed to be this central defender. Who's like a good poacher in the box and knows how to shoot a goal. And all of sudden we just stuck him on the left wing.
00:18:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
but paly this Yeah.
00:18:19
Zak
Look, again, it's, as we pointed out, there seems to be a trend of, uh, you remove them from Southampton at the moment and they seem to be doing either relatively like really well or, or okay, but either way better.
00:18:32
Zak
But then I will also point out that like none of them have gone to Premier League standards areas or places or clubs, right? So they are taking it.
00:18:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
all dropped down a level.
00:18:42
Zak
Yeah, which which made may say something about sort of where our level is. Hmm...
00:18:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Well, moving on to a player that doesn't quite fit that mould currently.
Gavin Bozzunu's Challenges at Standard Leeds
00:18:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
Gavin Bozzunu out on loan at Standard Leeds, struggling for form.
00:18:54
Zak
and
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Two appearances, no clean sheets, six goals shipped. Played all 90 minutes of both of those games. A 2-1 loss to Genk, who, to be fair, sits at the top of the table.
00:19:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
So it kind of is what it is. But a 4-2 loss to Westerlo who sits 13th in the league. So, yeah, not...
00:19:22
Zak
Difficult, isn't it? You come back from a from a long stint out. you probably but You probably came back earlier than expected. So obviously they want him to get the game time.
00:19:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:32
Zak
It's difficult. um you know yeah yeah and The thing is is, if you have been out for so long and...
00:19:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:38
Zak
It really depends, I think, from a mentality perspective, how how difficult it is. And I know that a lot of people just seem to criticize him nonstop. And I remember people doing that long before the start the championship.
00:19:51
Zak
And yeah, like statistics-wise, he's not the greatest, but also like he's a young player. right Most goalkeepers are not in their prime at 21, so there's a lot of time to grow.
00:19:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:19:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Exactly. he He's, there's definitely potential there. And that was, I think what we signed him up for. i I have, I don't claim to be an expert in the Belgium league by any stretch of imagination. I've not seen the goals.
00:20:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know how many of them, if any, he's actually at fault for, you know, with a goalkeeper that actually the goals are only half the story.
00:20:20
Zak
Yeah.
00:20:23
Zak
Let's face it, like some of the goals that Rambo has let in this season have been entirely Rambo and some of the amazing saves that he's made this year have been on the players around because of the players around him that caused that.
00:20:33
Zak
So, yeah, I find that i find it difficult and two goals and I'm lost in touch.
00:20:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
We can hope that he'll find his feet, get into some form, start making some saves, get back to the player where he was before he was injured. I guess that's really all it's about this loan spell is getting those minutes under the belt, getting back to proper fitness and getting back ready to presumably be our number one choice in the championship next year, right?
00:20:56
Zak
What do you mean? Ramsdale, stay surely. He's up for a fight underneath, despite the fact he's recently come out and said that he's not really, he didn't really join for any other reason than because we need to play under Russell Martin and help us stay up.
00:21:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Look, I don't think that Aaron Ramsdale's personality would prevent him coming to play for us for a season in the Championship if a better offer doesn't come in.
00:21:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think his wage packet might. So...
00:21:26
Zak
Yeah, this is the thing.
00:21:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:27
Zak
there's that there's a lot of There's a lot of factors to it. I'm not going to criticise someone that's played really, really well for us this season. i'm not going to criticise somebody of you that chose to come here over other places, despite the fact that you know he's had a a rough season.
00:21:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:21:40
Zak
and I'm also not going to criticise the reasons why joined a football club. That's not really anything to do with me, and to be perfectly honest.
00:21:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
No.
00:21:47
Zak
Yeah.
00:21:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, absolutely.
00:21:48
Zak
Yeah.
00:21:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I mean, let's be honest, it was always a shrewd bit of business from Saints to bring him in.
00:21:48
Zak
it'll be
00:21:52
Zak
yeah
00:21:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
he would If we stayed in the Premier League and made a good show of it, he would go on to be a fantastic value signing who would stay with us and keep that fight. And in the event that we went down, he is also the sort of player that based off what we signed him for, will probably still make at least a break even on probably a profit.
00:22:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah, it was...
00:22:14
Zak
have to see it'll be it'll be what it'll be but you know i don't really blame lot of don't know don't want say don't blame the players entirely what's happened this season but i can understand where a lot of people's heads are at uh across the board right really oh good loss and yeah so it's
00:22:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. It's
00:22:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
been a difficult season. been It's been a difficult season to watch. To be involved in it must be be awful. I mean, you can see that on from, i think I shared with you, the picture from the Premier League Instagram.
00:22:43
Zak
I'll get your Premier League famous now.
00:22:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
of the... That's it, with the Bournemouth goalscorer and knee sliding in the celebration and me in the background, leaning on a wall, looking so happy to be in the place I love, St Mary's, really enjoying life.
00:22:59
Zak
Sorry, mate.
00:22:59
Zak
At least the points are reasonable prices, right?
00:23:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh
00:23:02
Zak
surely surely Surely the points are reasonable prices.
00:23:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Anyway...
00:23:05
Zak
like I wish Buzunu well. There we
Adam Armstrong's Position at West Brom
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah moving on to the final player on my list Adam Armstrong another player who I don't know if he will be coming back in the summer
00:23:09
Zak
go.
00:23:15
Zak
Do
00:23:20
Zak
you feel that way?
00:23:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
but I don't know I genuinely don't know i don't understand i still am not convinced I understand the loan move if he's coming back so i don't know it's a baffling one but yeah obviously gone to West Brom to the baggies
00:23:21
Zak
Genuinely.
00:23:37
Global Sports Podcast Network
Three appearances for them, one goal in his opening appearance. He scored in that opening appearance. But the news article I found told a harrowingly familiar story of how he's being stuck out on the left wing and left out to dry and not being given a shot in his natural position of playing through the middle and how if West Brom and Tony Mowbray don't change that, they are are going to continue to struggle And the woe of his appearance on the left wing against Millwall driving an XG, which I know is a meaningless stat, but of 0.12. So... Yeah. Yeah. I think so.
00:24:19
Zak
but if i Yeah, where I'm at is, well, how is that going to convince him to stay, in my opinion? Like, is he going to stay a place where he's also going to get no game time and out position?
00:24:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:30
Zak
I think at the moment he just wants it to recapture his form, right?
00:24:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:32
Zak
Like, I think that a lot, there are the two reasons, two main reasons for the move are going to be game time and just, you know,
00:24:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
i think so
00:24:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
confidence.
00:24:39
Zak
yeah like it's not if he's not going to get starting minutes which i doubt he's going to and we've seen that and he's going to be swapped out after 45 minutes every game and be started out on the left and not really given a chance to you know especially where as i think you pointed out constantly pairing him with archer where they're basically both kind of doing the same thing and neither of them are scoring you may as well just send him out on loan and let him to build his confidence but i don't I think that he would be happy to come back in the Championship.
00:25:08
Zak
Or at least I'd like to think.
00:25:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
I hope so.
00:25:10
Zak
But there's there's a lot of players that I thought would have been or would still be happy to be here that have proven me otherwise. And then there are ones that I thought would be on the first boat out of the club that are still here. So do I know?
00:25:22
Zak
Again, we don't know these people as human beings.
00:25:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:24
Zak
That's the problem.
00:25:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, indeed.
Summary of Loan Players and Future Games
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that is, that is the end of my list. That's the end of Lone Watch. Uh,
00:25:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
that's all the the loans I can find again, not the easiest thing to find who we actually have out on loan at the moment. So if I've missed anyone, apologies.
00:25:41
Zak
I think Don Ballard went out on loan again after being recalled to somewhere else. I think that's the only person I can think of that i know is definitely...
00:25:50
Global Sports Podcast Network
you're right. And I think the reason that probably hasn't come up in my research is I think that probably counts as under twenty one so on the website in particular that I've got my list from.
00:25:58
Zak
Yes, again, it's...
00:26:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I guess that makes sense.
00:26:01
Zak
It's just a it just a bit weird. But like where I'm at is that we we genuinely are talking about how we don't have players and we need to make all these transfers and stuff. I think that if we if if and when, because it's much more of a when at this point, we go down.
00:26:15
Zak
like We have some players that are going to have now championship experience. who potentially could just slot into the side. you know You've got Ronnie Edwards, who's beloved. Shea Charles, that's beloved and played really well.
00:26:26
Zak
Armour to come back and potentially do another record-breaking championship season. Dozie who's been doing all right.
00:26:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:26:32
Zak
And then obviously, if we want to hit up our multi-club network, maybe that's what they'll do. Obviously, that that won't replace all of the recruitment that we have and and all the bits and places. But Yeah, just don't discount everybody who isn't here just because they're not here, I guess would be my advice.
00:26:47
Zak
They might end up being sold, but if we make a profit off them and then we can buy better players with a better recruitment structure, that is also prudent. And I think it's important to sort of pay attention to what could be the future of the club or alternatively, the past.
00:27:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:05
Zak
Guess we'll see.
00:27:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
hello that, uh, takes us over hump day and through wildcard Wednesday as we run out of time. Uh, tomorrow we draw it back to a much closer future as we look forward to our game on Saturday against Brighton, uh, with a crossover episode.
00:27:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
sorry, did I, I almost didn't sound excited for that. It's, uh, pain creeping in.
00:27:27
Zak
it's me mate that's the one that's sad come on come on
00:27:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Uh, But until then, thank you very much for joining us, Zach. Thank you for joining me and talking through our players of the future or prophets of the future, whatever that may be.
00:27:36
Zak
thank you mate
00:27:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
and We will see you tomorrow and we look very much forward to it.