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Daily Southampton: Episode 146 - JURIC GONE?!?
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Southampton –With wild news and rumours circulating the club, we try to cast our minds forwards to a year in the Championship, and what we think that may look like for saints!
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Introduction and Southampton's Situation
00:00:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
Hello and welcome back to the Daily Southampton, part of the Global Sports Podcast Network. My name is Greg Elliott and I am, as always, joined by my good friend, Zach Ingofinch. are you Zach?
00:00:22
Zak
Yeah, not too bad, mate. It's been long enough from a game that I'm not completely, not completely depressed. Looking forward to the next game, despite the fact we're probably going to get battered.
00:00:35
Zak
I'm in the space that you're at a little bit. So, you know, let's let's talk about a really depressing topic. Isn't that...
00:00:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:00:42
Zak
That's a lie. That's a lie. It's not that depressing.
00:00:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, look, I'm taking the positive stance, Zach. We're looking forward to more enjoyable times.
Relegation Realities and Managerial Speculations
00:00:53
Global Sports Podcast Network
At this point, even Opta are saying we have a 100% chance of relegation.
00:00:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
It is yes clear and obvious to anyone looking in. Right.
00:01:03
Zak
Have we checked the latest the latest percentage chance of us staying up?
00:01:04
Global Sports Podcast Network
they
00:01:07
Zak
Do you want me to do that in the background?
00:01:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
right Well, Zach, there ninth it said greater than 99.9 is the official line, but I did see that they ran 10,000 supercomputer simulations and none of them did we stay up.
00:01:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:01:23
Zak
Oh no! you seen the betting odds?
00:01:28
Zak
a One a thousand is the odds checker.
00:01:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:01:35
Zak
Wow, we are. no what's the letter?
00:01:39
Zak
Sorry. That's just.
00:01:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:01:41
Zak
Wow.
00:01:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
And so we have reached the acceptance part of our grieving process from our time in the Premier League. And we're going to try and have a little look forward to our time in the Championship and have a little think about who we think might stay and how big of a job Jurich or whoever
00:02:02
Zak
whomever
00:02:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
may have as part of the rebuilding process. So I guess let's start with that elephant in the room. About 20 minutes before recording, we both sent each other the same article from the Echo from George Rhys-Julian claiming that the plan is for Southampton to fire Juric at the end of the season.
00:02:26
Zak
It's really funny because we were talking about what to do today. so Obviously, it's a wildcard day. We're slowly building and creeping our way back to match much day again. We were thinking, you know what what should we do? We have seen we had a a nice ice room 101 yesterday.
00:02:40
Zak
i got some some research on the go for an episode probably tomorrow. And we were like, why we talk about you know the acceptance that we're probably going to be relegated and what's going to happen going forward like if we keep church a lot. then And then it's like the fates aligned when they gave us this beautiful article to let us know, it's probably going to happen.
00:02:55
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:02:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, but also it's hardly like shock take journalism.
00:03:04
Zak
Yeah, no, you're right. it's It's, hey, this guy who's won like one game out of, like what, 11 or something?
00:03:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:12
Zak
is yeah it's... It's going to be difficult.
00:03:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, so, all right, let's, I think that this article, I think that before this article was published, that this was absolutely the case. And I think that there was a slim to zero chance of Jurich being our manager next season. Are you in that same boat?
Juric's Performance and Replacement Rumors
00:03:31
Zak
el look I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt whilst he looked like he was going to be able to change some stuff, right? And again, the first couple of games felt slightly more positive, but the fact that I seem to be more and more confused watching the team means that unfortunately we have fulfilled the prophecy of the last time we went down...
00:03:53
Zak
where we have hired another manager who doesn't really have a clue. But unlike the Nathan Jones vitriol, it feels very much like the Sellers march towards despair, where we've had that one positive result.
00:04:07
Zak
You know, we've got to win.
00:04:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:04:09
Zak
Everything else kind of feels silly, and it feels like a lot of the stuff is silly. And if you've not listened to... I think it was our our last post-match review where, don't know, we shared some feelings and we we looked over the opinion of a Roma fan on Juric.
00:04:26
Zak
And the fact that it lines up almost identical to what we're struggling with now is not stock good reading.
00:04:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
Not surprised, it?
00:04:33
Zak
So, yeah, I am under no surprise. I am not... devastated I don't think that everyone has warmed to him as much. I don't think that's really his fault. I don't think you you know i don't think anyone... Unless all of a sudden he saved us, right? and Unless all sudden we're wherere we're getting wins across the board. I don't think anyone that ever took that job but was ever going to have. It feels very much...
00:04:54
Zak
don't know, think we all had more of an affinity for Sparky at this point. I mean, arguably, he kept us up. So, you know, it's... But yeah, like I will wish him the Will Will, but i do not think that he is the correct decision to bring us into the championship based off of what we've seen so far and his inability to be tactically flexible when it is required.
00:05:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. I agree. I think that his style of play is probably more suited to the championship than the Premier League.
00:05:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't think that's a good enough reason to keep him in charge. to immediately throw you under the bus with the tough question then, Zach, with the obvious answer looming, I suppose, who's next?
00:05:38
Zak
Who shall replace him? every Everyone says Danny Roig. Why? he was linked with us previously because Southampton. And we we love to bring basically anyone that's had Ebony affiliation back to us apart from anyone in the Sports Republic era, unfortunately for them, which says a lot.
00:05:55
Zak
But yeah, I understand. And apparently, and take this with a pinch of salt because it is the sun. But they they were saying that, you know, he apparently, obviously he worked...
00:06:06
Zak
I guess alongside Johannes Spors at Leipzig at one point. So there's like history there. The club apparently went in for him beforehand.
00:06:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:16
Zak
There was a lot of hushed conversations around that. They didn't want to pay compensation because I get it.
00:06:23
Global Sports Podcast Network
We've shown that in the past as well with Swansea.
00:06:25
Zak
yeah we've Yeah, we've done this before. On top of that, they called up their mate who was available this time round when they fired a manager and they've decided to get...
00:06:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Got track record.
00:06:34
Zak
So yeah, i wouldn't be... I wouldn't really be surprised, and I don't think it would be that hard to tempt him away from Sheffield Wednesday, and I don't think it would be that difficult.
00:06:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
The hard question though, Zach, is he the man for the job?.....................
00:06:46
Zak
I think he's the man that has been selected. i do not know who the man is for this job, because as we've just told you before, and as we've kind of discussed, the current approach of a of a Sports Republic hiring and a Sports Republic...
00:07:04
Zak
sort of decision making when it comes to the football is to spin the wheel of different exciting tactics that you would use in football manager, throw a dart and then find a cheap manager associated with that style of football.
Rebuilding Challenges and Ownership Concerns
00:07:16
Zak
And that then replaces whatever the heck the Southampton way used to be.
00:07:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
and
00:07:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:07:21
Zak
So the reason that i think that he might be right is because if you hire a manager who have worked before who has worked for you before or worked with you in some capacity, there is a level of trust.
00:07:31
Zak
There is a level of understanding. So I think it makes more sense to me now than it would have when Spores was not our technical director, if that makes sense.
00:07:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay. Yeah. Well, it won't surprise you, Zach. to know that I have an opinion.
00:07:49
Zak
Good. Sam Allardyce, who's full?
00:07:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
And we will get to that.
00:07:52
Zak
Can't wait.
00:07:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
Oh, I don't know about that. But we will come to my opinion specifically on Danny Roll after the break.
00:08:41
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okay, and we're back. So yeah, I have an opinion on Danny Roll. And I don't know if it's going to be a popular opinion, but I'm going with it anyway. I think he is a fine selection for the championship, right?
00:08:57
Global Sports Podcast Network
But I think it puts us back to exactly square one after that. Like, okay... We're going to be facing, frankly, a monumental rebuild at the end of the season, which I'm sure will come on to sort of who we think may stay and may go.
00:09:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
there's going to be big changes. It's going to be a very fresh squad. Yes, he's doing well with Sheffield Wednesday on a shoestring budget. Can he repeat that?
00:09:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. if he does, is it going to be enough to actually get us promoted season one? I don't know. Possibly, but also i don't think it's going to be as clear cut as that. If we stay down, are we going to be able to use that time to build properly?
00:09:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
I mean, do we trust the scouting network of Sports Republic to do that? Frankly, no. and then, you know, either that first year or at least that second year, that's when the clock's ticking on those parachute payments and we need to go up.
00:09:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
And when we do go up, is Danny Roll the man to take us on to Premier League safety? Well, I see no proof that that is the case. He is another unproven quantity and we are back to square one.
00:10:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Now, I am no expert. I have watched a grand total of of zero Sheffield Wednesday games this season. I don't know. Hopefully, he's a slightly more he seems to be a slightly more pragmatic manager than we've seen for the rest of us this season.
00:10:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
And that would be a step in the right direction. But still... an unproven quantity.
00:10:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
So I don't think that, I still think it's the decision they'll make. I don't necessarily think it's the right decision.
00:10:38
Zak
The problem is, who is a proven Premier League quality manager that this point we could get in? right Because the thing is is that Leeds have managed to do that you know Burnley have managed to do that. Not with Vince and company, but they have this time around with Scott Parker.
00:10:55
Zak
There have been situations where they other teams have taken...
00:10:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know if you could call Scott Parker a proven quality Premier League manager, if I'm honest, mate.
00:11:02
Zak
Right.
00:11:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's a stretch, but okay.
00:11:04
Zak
It's a bit of a stretch, but my point is like, the problem is, is that we're getting managers who have had their first season of Premier League football ever with us, right?
00:11:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:11:13
Zak
weve We had that with Jones, we had that with Celis, we had that with Juric now, Russell Martin now. The problem is, is that, you know, we don't want to get in one of these sort of mid-level interim managers anymore because that's a problem.
00:11:29
Zak
but I guess it's finding... The thing is, is I also don't see them being... Having, i guess, the guts like we did in the Pochettino era, which was get rid of Atkins, because that killed all of us almost all of us, but proved to be tactically astute.
00:11:43
Zak
And as much as there was no time for sentiment, but you know, it ended up being the right decision. But there's also been times we've brought in people like Hasenhutl, and it's worked out pretty well, as well as it can be, thither for the time.
00:11:56
Zak
I think our problem... stems down to trusting the decisions that are currently made by the ownership, right?
00:12:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:12:04
Zak
You don't trust s Sports Republic to make good footballing decisions. I don't. We're going to have to see what happens with sports and see if that works out. If the football is put into his basket, if I remember rightly, Kraft has also stepped down now.
00:12:17
Zak
from anything to do with Southampton Football Club. So we're slowly getting rid of the people that don't know anything, trying to make decisions about something that they don't know, which is which is the perfect way to run... Much better way to run any business. Like, again, I know nothing about pickles, so why would I work at a pickle factory?
00:12:33
Zak
Baffling. Anywho, that's a weird analogy.
00:12:38
Zak
But, like...
00:12:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
just Just cucumbers of vinegar, mate. It can't be that hard.
00:12:42
Zak
But like it's it's one of those it's one of those situations where there is no, I guess, correct answer. the prop The thing is is, although he's not a proven Premier League manager, he has worked in the Premier League in the club previously.
00:12:58
Zak
And a lot of people referred to him as the quote-unquote brains behind Hassan Hool, because when he left, I think, to go and work as a assistant coach Bayern Munich, right, was where he went to before ended up getting his gig now.
00:13:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:13:09
Zak
when he When he went off to do that,
00:13:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
and see It's a good CV for someone not at that top point of like actually being in charge at the top level.
00:13:12
Zak
but
00:13:18
Zak
Correct.
00:13:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
they maybe Maybe it's the best of the job.
00:13:19
Zak
And I guess you could you could put you could put some of the you could put some of the sort of decisions made afterwards due to the fact of the lack of funding, the gal ownership sort of having a good CEO with no money, I guess, potentially.
00:13:34
Zak
But, you know, I don't know if it's necessarily him that turned the results not in Hasenhutl's way or was a combination of many things. We got found out, you know, whatever happened, happened. But it seems like a logical step for them to put their hands up and go, hey, why would maybe we should make, we should like move back to a system that worked previously, not even a system, but like move back to someone who has worked previously and has an affinity with the club.
00:14:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:02
Zak
and I think we'll probably be to afford the compensation, i think he might be interested in a move. But also, all of these things are if and buts. The way that some people are already talking about it is if it's like a sign on the dotted line deal.
00:14:14
Zak
we We don't know if they if if all of a sudden we get to the summer and they they don't make the money that they want to off of players. We've already got players that are probably going to leave on freeze that we don't want to leave on freeze. And then they decide, well, actually, it's just keep it it's cheaper to keep Dürer. We don't need to pay any compensation. We just carry on paying his wages.
00:14:30
Zak
so So that's the caveat is that it is a nice idea. i understand why everyone thinks that. I would kind of hope to so it be interesting to see someone build something like that.
00:14:44
Zak
If it gets to a point we get promoted again, I still think we came up too early. Maybe at that point we don't make the same decision where if the results in the Premier League are terrible in two years' time for like half of the season, we then wait to fire him and do the same thing again.
00:15:01
Zak
All you can hope is that we learn from the mistakes. And I think that it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world if we have a manager who... has got experience with the club, who actually will get on behind the scenes with everybody and hopefully, theoretically, build something new.
00:15:21
Zak
Because I do feel sorry for Juric inheriting a bunch squad.
00:15:21
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:15:26
Zak
And there there is an argument that he has reinvigorated some of the players.
00:15:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
And if Google AI is to be believed, uh, Danny rolls management style is exactly what I've been calling out for, to be fair, a pragmatic approach, uh, based off of player development and player fitness.
00:15:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's versatile and tactically astute. And, uh, Anyone who has listened to a video essay on philosophies in football might feel that tactically diverse is exactly what I want from a football manager.
00:15:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:15:59
Zak
so it also known as a How Pep Guardiola Kill Old Football. We reran it the other day when we were all unfortunately out sick. It was very, very good. i enjoyed listening back to it myself.
00:16:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
Okey-doke. After the break, I think we'll move on from the manager, Zach, and we'll have a little look through our squad quickly.
00:16:16
Zak
Who will be
Player Departures and Future Squad Speculations
00:16:17
Zak
here?
00:16:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
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00:16:52
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Okay, and we're back. I guess, Zach, let's start on the back and work our way forward.
00:17:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Seems like a logical way for me to go. Ramsdale is not going to be at the club as a championship team,
00:17:09
Zak
No, we make some money back on him. Probably the money we spent on him.
00:17:10
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:11
Zak
Happy days. We'll end up with Bizzuno and Lumley.
00:17:12
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh As much as I love Aaron Ramsdale and would love to see him annihilate the championship for a season, there's a 0% chance we're going to be willing to pay his wages and I think there's as much of a chance that he's going to want to stay.
00:17:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
So, yeah.
00:17:27
Zak
Look, he's going to be there.
00:17:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Thanks for trying. Cheers for getting money back.
00:17:29
Zak
Thanks, Jim.
00:17:31
Global Sports Podcast Network
no No harm, no foul.
00:17:32
Zak
He's going to... He needs to help another team like Leeds stay up but or Burnley. I know if there's talk of Newcastle, let's be real, unless he wants to play second fiddle to someone, he's probably going end up, you know, that's more of a jest and it's a mean jest on the about amount of teams he's relegated, but it's not his fault.
00:17:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:45
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:17:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
oh I could see him go into like a like West Ham or a Crystal Palace.
00:17:52
Zak
It's just being in it.
00:17:58
Zak
Maybe a Newcastle there were rumours about.
00:17:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Ormuth I've seen.
00:17:59
Zak
But yeah, he's he's he's gone. Bazzouna is going to come back off loan and he's going to be one of our goalkeepers. Lumley will probably one of our goalkeepers. Do you see Alex McCarthy get another season?
00:18:10
Zak
He's only had a year year this year and it's not exactly like he's shown himself in glory as our...
00:18:15
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, and he's about 83. Give it up, man.
00:18:21
Zak
Oh, fine servant.
00:18:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
it's It's funny, but i feel like he's actually about our age, so maybe it's shot fired.
00:18:22
Zak
I still remember...
00:18:26
Zak
Yeah, and no, you you forget. He signed as sort of a backup anyway, if I remember rightly.
00:18:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:18:34
Zak
was signed as a backup from Palace, if I if i like get my memory correct. But yeah, so goalkeepers-wise, those are the two we've got remaining. Obviously, we probably need to shore that up.
00:18:43
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm sure we will.
00:18:43
Zak
Where that's coming from, who knows?
00:18:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knows? Maybe one of the... The yeah the Nipper from the under-21s. Didn't we send him out on loan? think. I don't know. Not familiar enough with the youth system, I'm afraid.
00:18:57
Zak
We should be. We're probably going to be where all our players come from next season, though.
00:18:59
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. And then the back line. Walker-Peters is going to go on a free. It's the end of his contract.
00:19:08
Zak
Oh, the pain. I remember watching his debut. I'm so sad.
00:19:12
Zak
what a servant. Anyway.
00:19:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jan Bednarek got offered a move to Roma in January and turned it down.
00:19:17
Zak
Turn it down. So that means for me, he doesn't want to be back to Southampton. He said he's settled here. He'd probably stay here forever at this point. He wants to retire here. He's not too bothered.
00:19:25
Global Sports Podcast Network
I take it.
00:19:26
Zak
I think at this point, it's a family thing, right? Like, you're a dad.
00:19:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:19:28
Zak
You've got a family. You know, it's like, don't want to disrupt your whole family for the sake of something.
00:19:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, I can see that.
00:19:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
I'd be happy with that. I like Yannick B. think he's played really well this season, despite the positions he's been put in by managers, players around him.
00:19:35
Zak
Yeah.
00:19:40
Zak
I still think that... When he first started, there was a lot of controversy around, like, they wouldn't play him. He kind of sat in the under-21s for a bit, and then they started playing him, and he always played solid, and he did well right up and until he had his little wobble.
00:19:54
Zak
He had his little wobble, and he's coming back and learned the grass isn't always greener. So by by having that lesson, i think, and learning it, it's worked out quite well for him.
00:19:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:02
Zak
So, yeah, I wouldn't see him going.
00:20:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
Will he be good enough for us to be a competitive team in the championship to go up? Yes. Will he still be our first choice centre-back if we make it back to the Premier League?
00:20:13
Global Sports Podcast Network
Probably not. I think that's the point he's at.
00:20:14
Zak
Not at that point. That's two years on, right? like for
00:20:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:17
Zak
That's if we make it back up after the first season, which I think is be harder this time around, if I'm totally honest.
00:20:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. It's definitely going to be hard. Harwood Bellis got a new agent last week.
00:20:27
Zak
There's already rumours that he's out the door. He wants to be in England international, but he's not going to do that in the championship.
00:20:33
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:33
Zak
I would like to see him stay, I guess. I do like Harwood, but I think he's the only one that's... he He cares a lot, but you can still see he's quite young. You can see that in sort of i guess the passion, and the passion goes two ways, right?
00:20:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:20:46
Zak
but I could see him being picked up by basically anyone else. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up going to Palace.
00:20:51
Zak
or a team or a team like that, right?
00:20:53
Zak
As a replacement or anything like that. You know, some somewhere... where I think he's probably deserving of, a I wouldn't be surprised.
00:21:00
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:02
Zak
And then...
00:21:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, a mid to bottom table Premier League team will probably come in and he will do a job there.
00:21:11
Zak
you
00:21:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
And it's a shame because I feel like if we'd have done well this season and stayed up, he might have gone on to be a future club captain.
00:21:12
Zak
It is a shame.
00:21:19
Global Sports Podcast Network
So...
00:21:20
Zak
Yeah, devastating. But it's just unfortunately how the cookie crumbles.
00:21:24
Global Sports Podcast Network
Bellicott chap? He's been
00:21:26
Zak
I feel like he's wanted to leave forever and I don't think he was going to want to stay there.
00:21:29
Global Sports Podcast Network
He's got some Premier League minutes now. So if an offer comes in, he's probably gone, right? As simple as that.
00:21:34
Zak
I wouldn't blame him in the slightest. and I know, again, like I became a weird de facto, like, Bella Koch app watch guy for a while, right? And I think it's just because I kept mentioning it because I'm the one that spends significantly more time on social media than you because it's one of the benefits.
00:21:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:21:48
Zak
I say benefits, drawbacks of not having kids. I get a far more free time to sit on social media than I'd like. And, I think that he's been hard done by. Maybe his attitude hasn't helped either, but I also don't see him wanting to stay here any longer.
00:22:03
Zak
I don't think that he's massively got a tie to the town or the people or any anything else.
00:22:08
Global Sports Podcast Network
No, just a step of the way.
00:22:08
Zak
So why would he stay? Yeah, always has been.
00:22:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Jack Stephens?
00:22:13
Zak
He's getting on a bit now, right? But I can see him staying and wanting to prove himself.
00:22:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:19
Zak
He cares about the club, regard regardless of...
00:22:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. I feel like our first choice centre-backs or our sort of four squad depth centre-backs next season is probably Jack Stephens, Jan Bednarek, Ronnie Edwards and Nathan Wood.
00:22:34
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:22:35
Zak
yep
00:22:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't see that being an area where they try to invest in because I think there are going to be other gaps. Uh,
00:22:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
presume Wellington will stay.
00:22:43
Zak
You'd like to think so.
00:22:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah.
00:22:44
Zak
would be Unless he's caught the eye. I don't think he's quite caught the eye of teams the way that Alcaraz did or anything like that.
00:22:49
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:22:50
Zak
So...
00:22:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. Yuki rumors that he, He's not thinking about it to the end of the season. I don't know if that's good thing or a bad thing.
00:22:58
Zak
ah ah feel I feel bad for him a little bit. But also, it's like... You can tell a lot of these people have already got their their heads out the door sort of thing.
00:23:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah Manning and Bree, I don't know. i don't think they'll probably stay, right? i don't I don't see offers coming in for them. And I think that we know that they'll do a job for us in the Championship.
00:23:20
Zak
Unless... Unless Russell Martin suddenly starts heading up a a championship team and wants to take Manning. I don't see that happening. And I think Bree would perfectly be a good enough championship right back or right wing back for us.
00:23:38
Zak
And I emphasize championship because he's done well this season in the weird roles that he's been put in. But I wouldn't want to rely on him forever.
00:23:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:48
Zak
So yeah, that's us. Is that everyone?
00:23:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the defence.
00:23:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's the other.
00:23:52
Zak
Wait, hang on.
00:23:53
Zak
Why D'Alarios? He's still going to be here in the medical room?
00:23:56
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah. He played some football.
00:23:57
Zak
Will we see 45 minutes?
00:23:58
Global Sports Podcast Network
He played in the under-21s. Maybe.
00:24:01
Zak
Are we going to see his second debut like five years after his first?
00:24:03
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe. he had He was promising. i can see them doing a job as a squad player in the championship and building back up to fitness and maybe becoming a good really good fullback, wingback.
00:24:07
Zak
He was. Who
00:24:15
Zak
knows?
00:24:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who knows?
00:24:16
Zak
Who knows?
00:24:17
Global Sports Podcast Network
If he can stay fit, that's going to be the struggle when you've been out that long.
00:24:21
Zak
Very much so.
00:24:22
Global Sports Podcast Network
Midfield, this this is the one of the points of concern, right? Matty Fernandez is probably gone, right?
00:24:31
Zak
i was hoping that Snow would notice him, but people are starting to notice him it's making me sad. hate it because I feel like it's going to be like, of all clubs, like a Liverpool, right?
00:24:39
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:24:39
Zak
They're going to pick him up and it's going to be like another Carvalho where he just doesn't play. And then like goes out alone for half a season and like Blackpool looks like stupid.
00:24:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
I actually see a future where he stays but I don't know he there's going to be some tasty offers for him I think and it might just be too much to turn down but I can see a future where he stays and we effectively build the team around him because he has been out and out our best player this season by by quite a stretch
00:24:50
Zak
I hope so. I really hope so.
00:24:57
Zak
Yep.
00:25:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
And the most consistent as well. Aribo.
00:25:13
Zak
I think he's gone, if I'm totally honest.
00:25:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:17
Zak
I don't know where, but I just have a feeling that he would want to play
00:25:23
Zak
or move a back or onto to bigger things, right?
00:25:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Two relegations and a struggle to get in the team when he was in the championship. It's not... Yeah.
00:25:32
Zak
It's a lot of turmoil to part with.
00:25:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't see a lot of history keeping him here. from his perspective. I would like to see him stay, but again, yeah, agree. Flynn Downs kicked kicked off in January because he didn't get a move, so...
00:25:44
Zak
wow
00:25:47
Zak
but which is Which is insane considering we purchased him.
00:25:47
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:50
Zak
And again, I do feel a lot of that is when you have been a player that has been sent off and on loan constantly throughout your career, if something doesn't work out in your favour, you're able to just kind of drop it, right?
00:26:01
Zak
And I kind of feel like that's what his opinion was.
00:26:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:26:03
Zak
And, you know, I understand that he's had history of Ipswich and stuff previously, but yeah, are they going to put an offer in? Maybe. Would we accept it in the summer? Maybe. Would we want to keep an unhappy player?
00:26:14
Global Sports Podcast Network
I don't know. Would he go? I don't know.
00:26:18
Zak
Would we want to keep an unhappy player? Is he going feel an affinity to Southampton? Was he brought in as the talisman to the Russell Martin wave way of football? Yeah.
00:26:26
Global Sports Podcast Network
Will he be more suited?
00:26:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Because he's quite a versatile player though, and if we do change managers, he would probably be more suited to a Danny Roll team than a Juric team. So, there's that.
00:26:35
Zak
Yeah, but yeah it depends.
00:26:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
There's a lot of moving parts. That's a definite maybe for me.
00:26:39
Zak
Yeah, that that is a You could roll the dice and I wouldn't be surprised either way.
00:26:40
Global Sports Podcast Network
It could go either way. Uga Chugua is obviously going to go back to Chelsea. He's not going to sign permanently for us because why would he?
00:26:50
Zak
Who?
00:26:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
Who else in the midfield? Adam Lallana presumably going to retire into permanent cryo-freeze. Maybe go on and be Danny Rolls' assistant.
00:26:59
Zak
Who?
00:27:02
Zak
who
00:27:03
Zak
I know that sounds bad. I was excited a little bit.
00:27:05
Global Sports Podcast Network
shit.
00:27:05
Zak
I was kind of felt a bit, I'm still angry again.
00:27:06
Global Sports Podcast Network
to fit.
00:27:07
Zak
I'm still angry about the fact that all he did when he left was give us a spread of the echo. And I now kind of feel like we're being robbed out of a living, you know, because it's great that he gives a bit of flair. But if you give a bit of flair for five minutes of a game, every five or six games, everyone kind of, you know, how long is he, how many minutes has he had? I remember when we brought Theory Walcott in I thought he didn't play a lot. And then I look back and realise that,
00:27:27
Zak
played quite a lot from considering his age and Lallana's just what is the point like there is absolutely no point keeping a player who's going to play five collective minutes over the space of 10 games yes the experience might be good yes it might be good to have that level ahead are we going to be able to afford to keep that on the bench probably not should we probably not
00:27:36
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah
00:27:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
No. Yeah, I don't think he'll stay as a player in the championship. If he stays amongst the club, fair enough. Great. Good for him. I appreciate that. respect that.
00:27:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
That's fine. I don't see it being in a playing capacity. Again, it's another position, though, where we do have some you know promise potentially coming back. Yeah. if If it is true and Danny Royal does take over, Shea Charles is going to slot straight into that system with no issue.
00:28:11
Global Sports Podcast Network
Coming back off loan, great. Yeah. there's There's some hope. but
00:28:17
Zak
Yeah, I agree.
00:28:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
if we can but If we can keep Matty Fernandez and Shea Charles, that is two-thirds of a very solid midfield. If Flynn Downs around and buys in as well, thats that is a top
00:28:27
Zak
I will say
00:28:32
Global Sports Podcast Network
level championship midfield without a lot of work.
00:28:34
Zak
Yeah, and we're going to get there, but like one of the players you know above him that's going to come back off of loan, he's been doing pretty well. Other than a timeout and injury, he's played in European leagues, which isn't anything I could play.
00:28:48
Global Sports Podcast Network
Same here, you see?
00:28:49
Zak
Yeah, it's a dosie.
00:28:51
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah, agreed.
00:28:51
Zak
He's been, he's been a, you know, and a look to, you know, good, the good Belgian team. They've been up there in, there they've always historically been up there in sort of the top of that league.
00:29:03
Zak
Yes, it's not a hard league to get to the top of, however, know,
00:29:07
Global Sports Podcast Network
yeah right we are rapidly running out of time so instead of going player through player uh through the front line uh i'm instead going to ask zach do you see any of our front players wingers or strikers staying and slash or do you want any of them to stay
00:29:27
Zak
Paul goes. I wish him well. i and I hope he goes back to being top scorer in the Belgian league. I love him dearly. as a guy, I think he's really cool. It's really nice when he we do dances and we sing and all that jazz.
00:29:45
Zak
It's just not cut out. Cameron Archer, yes, please. Let's keep him. Let's actually give him service. Let's see him start scoring goals. He'll tear it up in the championship.
00:29:52
Global Sports Podcast Network
hundred percent
00:29:54
Zak
Suleymane, I would like to see him retain the level of form and desire and drive he has now.
00:30:01
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think he's gone.
00:30:02
Zak
However, part of that is down to Juric. I feel like he is gone. I agree with you. ross Stewart is still going to be here while they reconstruct his knees out of, don't know,
00:30:13
Zak
Sandpaper again. We'll find out. I guess you forgot about him as well.
00:30:16
Global Sports Podcast Network
Is his contract up?
00:30:17
Zak
No idea.
00:30:18
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think his contract might be up in the summer.
00:30:20
Zak
That would be interesting.
00:30:20
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I don't know if we would renew that.
00:30:22
Zak
We would not renew that in a heartbeat. Does Armour come back? Probably. i don't think he's been lighting up West Brom.
00:30:28
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah? No?
00:30:30
Zak
You know, he would probably want that opportunity to do really, really well for us again.
00:30:35
Global Sports Podcast Network
Tyler Diblim? Diblim? We've spoken about it at length. I think that a year in the Championship wealth would be best for his career.
00:30:41
Zak
I want to
00:30:42
Global Sports Podcast Network
And I hope that stays.
00:30:43
Zak
and The problem is, is modern, modern football.
00:30:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Maybe a big chance that a big offer comes in and takes him. But front three of Armour, Diblin and Archer sounds a lot scarier in the championship than it does in the Premier League for our opposition, as opposed to Premier League, where it would sound a little bit scary for us.
00:30:48
Zak
Modern football, mate.
00:31:02
Global Sports Podcast Network
I think that's just about it. Yeah, Sammy Adoji to come back. Look, I'm feeling a bit more optimistic about it than I was at the start of the episode.
00:31:08
Zak
It's not as bad as we think. We we forget we've got like we've got two players on loan currently tearing up the championship in Edwards and Shea Charles. We've got Adozi doing it right.
00:31:19
Zak
Buzuru was bad at the beginning of his loan spell because he's been out for like a year, but he's come back and I think he's putting in some good work. so like
00:31:27
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:31:28
Zak
So it's not as bad as it could be. And I think a lot of people are scared.
00:31:30
Global Sports Podcast Network
Yeah. You know what? You're hearing it here first. 25-26 Championship League winners.
00:31:36
Zak
Oh, Oh, no.
00:31:38
Global Sports Podcast Network
Southampton, here we come.
00:31:39
Zak
It's going to be the same thing. I don't know, Greg. but Greg, of the crab cheese, it's better.
00:31:44
Global Sports Podcast Network
Championship. Ole, ole, ole. right. Well, on those eternally, maybe delusionally optimistic tones...
00:31:49
Zak
oh
00:31:54
Global Sports Podcast Network
we will wrap up and call it a day. We'll be back tomorrow with some more Saints joy. and until then, give us a message on all of the socials. Let us know. do you think we're coming straight back up?
00:32:09
Global Sports Podcast Network
think it's going to be much more difficult? Are we going to keep hold of any of our players? Let us know. And we will see you tomorrow.