Intro
Introduction and Weekend Activities
00:00:29
Heather
Hey guys, welcome back.
00:00:32
Victoria Ouellette
hi welcome back, everybody.
00:00:34
Shelley
hey happy hump day.
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Victoria Ouellette
We're excited to be back for another episode.
00:00:44
Heather
you guys do anything fun this this past week? Weekend?
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Victoria Ouellette
Now, I was so busy last weekend that I just chilled this weekend, and I'm so glad.
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Shelley
Did absolutely nothing, which is fine.
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Victoria Ouellette
What about you?
00:01:05
Heather
um i was trying to think dang i almost don't remember but yeah
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Victoria Ouellette
That eventful. ah
00:01:13
Heather
i do feel like i had a lot going on but like nothing like fun fun just busy busy stuff yeah but yeah that's it shelly you want to tell us what today's episode's
00:01:19
Victoria Ouellette
Everyday life. Yeah.
Petty vs. Valid Scenarios Overview
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Heather
going to be about
00:01:26
Shelley
So today's episode is going to be about petty versus, or sorry, petty or valid.
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Shelley
So are you being dramatic? Or is this actually disrespectful? So we're going to get into a few scenarios. um No judgment.
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Shelley
Actually, lots of judgment. So how about we just get into it? Who's going to start?
00:01:55
Heather
I think Victoria should start. go ahead.
00:01:57
Victoria Ouellette
Okay. Yeah. I'll start then.
Not Tipping for Bad Service
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Victoria Ouellette
so is it petty or legit to not tip when you have a really bad service during a night out at a restaurant?
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Heather
I think it's valid.
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Heather
You said it was bad, right?
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Victoria Ouellette
It was bad service. Yeah. You had bad service.
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Shelley
so we usually tip quite well but if it was bad service I would still tip but it wouldn't be very much that's just me though like if they spilled drinks all over me and everything like that no I'd be like no it's okay like thanks but
00:02:32
Heather
I mean, I guess it depended on how bad it actually was if I would.
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Victoria Ouellette
they' just having a really bad day
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Shelley
No, I'd probably just, I'd probably still tip him, but not as well. Maybe I'm not sure.
00:02:48
Heather
I was gonna say, I think it would depend on the type of bad it was.
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Victoria Ouellette
i agree like you if you can tell they're just really busy and there's but they're trying but it just they it just failed like yes right
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Heather
like it's not their fault i mean it could be wherever you were at
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Shelley
But if they're like not busy and they're just like hanging around talking with their friends or yeah.
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Victoria Ouellette
Well, like you can see them across at the register, just texting their friends and laughing in the kitchen.
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Shelley
And they don't care. Yeah.
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Victoria Ouellette
Like, but I will say, i mean, it's petty, but am I going to do it?
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Shelley
then yeah, probably not tip as well.
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Victoria Ouellette
It might be petty, but I'm still going to do it.
00:03:28
Heather
i always do think about like that's that's how they make their, most of them, that's how they make their living. so
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Victoria Ouellette
Right. Right.
00:03:35
Heather
But like i what but i I guess I have to think about like, not everybody's like me, but when I go to work, I go to work and do my job.
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Victoria Ouellette
work yeah yeah right
00:03:43
Heather
so So I guess and there's that.
Feeling Offended by Friends' Actions
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Heather
go next, Shelley?
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Shelley
Okay. so this one I have being offended when your friend hangs out with their other friends without you.
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Victoria Ouellette
Legit.
00:04:05
Heather
sounds like Sounds like she might be targeting. Sounds like she might be targeting this one.
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Victoria Ouellette
ah that
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Shelley
valid emotional damage or codependent behavior
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Shelley
i mean i think it for me it would matter like if i was free that day and i was friends with this person as well and i was live close by
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Victoria Ouellette
Shelly, what did I do?
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Heather
When did she hang out with somebody else?
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Victoria Ouellette
When did that happen?
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Shelley
I can't think of anything right now, but yeah, just, don't know.
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Victoria Ouellette
No, I mean, yeah, like you said, I think i my first instinct is to say it's legit.
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Victoria Ouellette
um But it would depend. Like, yeah, is are they with that friend, like posting pictures and like sending videos laughing together? or like No, you know what I mean? When it's like legit, like, okay, wow.
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Shelley
Like, what about me?
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Victoria Ouellette
Why didn't I get invited? in
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Victoria Ouellette
But if if you're doing it, if you feel that way because you don't like their other friend, ah that could be a little petty.
00:05:12
Victoria Ouellette
Like, it I guess it depends on the reason you're really feeling that way. Like.
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Heather
I think my go-to answer, my first instinct answer I should say say would be to say petty.
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Victoria Ouellette
I mean.
00:05:23
Heather
But I do get, like, I guess some of the valid reasons that that people could say valid, like depending on the situation or there's a lot of things that could be there that could cause things to be, I guess, valid. But my first instinct answer would be to say petty.
00:05:43
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, really, the only the only way it could even really be valid for me is if it's like you were free that day. you guys are all friends. You would normally hang out all together.
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Victoria Ouellette
And then that one time they chose not to do it, then it's like, OK, well, that's legit.
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Victoria Ouellette
But even if it was like. you're free that day and you didn't get invited, but it's something that those two people do all the time together and always have alone, like then that would, then it would be petty.
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Victoria Ouellette
It's like, okay, that's their time together too, you know? So yeah, I agree. Different scenarios, but mostly petty, but some legit.
Avoiding People with Longer Routes
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Heather
um I'll go with, let's see. I was going to do everyday chaos. Taking the longer route just to avoid someone you know. Petty or valid?
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Victoria Ouellette
That's valid.
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Shelley
Is it someone that you don't want to talk to?
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Shelley
Don't want to have a conversation?
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Heather
If you're taking longer route to avoid someone that you know, assumingly you don't want to talk to them, right?
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Shelley
kind of petty, I think.
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Victoria Ouellette
You think that's petty?
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Shelley
I do. Because I would be like, just say I didn't want to talk to you. And I seen you like, so I can't use you because if I didn't talk to you and I seen you on the street, you would like, what hell's your problem?
00:07:10
Shelley
I don't know who to use in this scenario.
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Victoria Ouellette
I would confront you. what you're saying?
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Shelley
Yeah. You're like, what are you doing?
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Victoria Ouellette
She'd really have to avoid me.
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Shelley
is I I can't even think of an example.
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Victoria Ouellette
She would have to know for sure that she could avoid me. Wow, that makes me sound so mean, Shelly.
00:07:26
Shelley
Well, no, it's just because we're best friends, you know, like if I trying to avoid you, like why am I trying to avoid you?
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Victoria Ouellette
There's bigger problems. Yeah.
00:07:32
Shelley
Yeah. So somebody that I'm not really close with or something, um i would just walk past them and be like, hey, what's up? Sorry, I got to I got something to do Let's chat later. Or I'll text you later.
00:07:44
Heather
Would you do, would you though, Shelley?
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Victoria Ouellette
Shelly, you don't confront anybody.
00:07:49
Shelley
No, I would just walk.
00:07:49
Victoria Ouellette
i think you'd walk around the entire Walmart before you would rock your run into somebody.
00:07:53
Shelley
I would just say hi and then I would keep going.
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Victoria Ouellette
If you really didn't want to talk to them. What if it was somebody that you knew liked to talk and would stop you?
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Victoria Ouellette
Like, you knew for sure. And you don't hate them.
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Shelley
Like, and if I was busy, because I'm busy and I have to be somewhere.
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Victoria Ouellette
You just don't want to talk to them right now. Because you're busy. You have to go somewhere. Yeah.
00:08:11
Shelley
Yeah. Then if I had, if I had, if I was busy and I had to go somewhere and there was that one person that could like talk to me for three hours in one sitting, yes, it's legit.
00:08:24
Shelley
I would go around Walmart so that they didn't see me.
00:08:29
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, exactly. And I would say it's legit because, i mean, really, you're the one going out of your way to avoid it.
00:08:37
Victoria Ouellette
You're making sure you don't hurt their feelings, really, as well. As opposed to, like, walking up, them saying, trying to say hi, and you're like, no, I'm busy, I'm going to go.
00:08:48
Victoria Ouellette
Like, that might be kind of mean or petty.
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Shelley
Well, no, I would say hi. I would say hi. Like, hi. Bye.
00:08:57
Victoria Ouellette
I don't know.
00:08:59
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, most of time I just don't care.
00:09:01
Victoria Ouellette
I probably would say that too, but but i I agree it's legit sometimes.
00:09:05
Shelley
i Like, it's hard to say that now because, I mean, i only know in my town, like, one family. So... and the chance of me even seeing them is, like, slim. Like, just out and about, really.
00:09:22
Shelley
Just because of different hours and stuff.
00:09:25
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, my chance is so low.
00:09:27
Shelley
Yeah, your chances are pretty low, too.
00:09:34
Victoria Ouellette
So will go with.
Using Excuses to Stay Home
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Victoria Ouellette
Is it petty to say you already have plans when you'd rather just stay home?
00:09:47
Heather
I don't think so.
00:09:47
Shelley
No, I don't think so either.
00:09:49
Victoria Ouellette
I don't either. i think it's legit or valid.
00:09:51
Shelley
Because I think like you could have plans. You and Wayne legit have plans to watch a movie.
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Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, my plans are to stay home.
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Victoria Ouellette
That's what my plans are.
00:10:00
Victoria Ouellette
I did not lie to you. My plans are to stay right here on my computer and play games.
00:10:04
Shelley
But it would be if if you didn't want to go somewhere, but like, yeah, I have plans. I'm going bowling, but you're really staying home. Then maybe that would be petty.
00:10:12
Victoria Ouellette
Well, yeah, I would just be lying.
00:10:14
Shelley
Yeah, that's true. Lying. Yeah. oh
00:10:18
Victoria Ouellette
oh Yeah, that was an easier one.
00:10:22
Shelley
So this one's kind of, I don't know. We do this all the time because we've said so much in chat. Feeling betrayed when someone sends a TikTok you already saw. Like, do you think I'm behind? I think that is not even like, pet we none of us would ever think that way.
00:10:39
Shelley
Because we send TikToks to each other. They'll like, yeah, I've seen that. Oh yeah, I've seen that. you know But there's no pettiness behind it. It's just like, oh yeah, seen that.
00:10:48
Victoria Ouellette
No, I don't think that's petty at all.
00:10:48
Shelley
We're on the same page.
00:10:49
Victoria Ouellette
No. Well, I mean, I mean, there's times where somebody else will send a TikTok that the other person just sent. And like, did you not see my TikTok?
00:10:57
Shelley
Yeah. yeah Yeah, I guess, yeah, that's happened a few times.
00:10:58
Victoria Ouellette
I just sent that. like but
00:11:02
Heather
Me and Aaron do that to each other, actually.
00:11:05
Heather
If I send him a TikTok or some kind of video, Facebook Reels, usually what we listen to or watch, um he'll be like, I literally sent that to you yesterday. didn't you You didn't watch my... You didn't watch anything I sent you?
00:11:15
Victoria Ouellette
guess you didn't click on it, did you?
00:11:18
Heather
Probably not. I was probably busy. My bad.
00:11:20
Victoria Ouellette
Oops, sorry.
00:11:21
Heather
know what I tell you.
00:11:23
Victoria Ouellette
oh That's funny.
00:11:26
Heather
So... Stealing your mug back from the office kitchen. Petty or valid?
00:11:33
Shelley
If it's your mug, valid.
00:11:34
Victoria Ouellette
I think it's valid. They stole it from you. so Why is it in their kitchen? Did you leave it there?
00:11:42
Heather
I mean, in my opinion, if it's if it's at the office, yeah, I probably left it there.
00:11:46
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, and if I left it there, I get to take it home.
00:11:50
Heather
i mean, yeah, I think it's valid.
00:11:52
Shelley
I mean, I remember,
00:11:53
Heather
That's why I have an office. I keep my stuff in my office.
00:11:56
Shelley
i remember this one job I had. We, you know, if you wanted to bring your own coffee cup, that's on you, right? You didn't have to. They had like ones there that you could use. So I had bought one, like, you know, just from the dollar store or whatever, but like it was like a bigger coffee cup.
00:12:12
Shelley
And I had brought it because I worked a lot. And so when I came to work, I was looking for my coffee cup and somebody else was using it.
00:12:25
Shelley
And I was like, I was like, I know.
00:12:25
Victoria Ouellette
That's what happens when you leave in the kitchen, Julie.
00:12:28
Shelley
And I was like, they're using my coffee cup. Like I was being petty about it when it was my fault that I left it in the cupboard.
00:12:35
Heather
I was going to say, they probably didn't know.
00:12:37
Shelley
No, they didn't. No, actually had my initials on the bottom of the cup.
00:12:40
Victoria Ouellette
Your initials, not your name.
00:12:41
Heather
do you pick up a cup and look at the bottom of the cup when you take it out of the cabinet, Shelly?
00:12:42
Victoria Ouellette
Because I sure don't.
00:12:47
Shelley
Well, there was a lot of different staff members that had their favorite cups there, I guess. I don't know. A lot of people named their cups. But I don't know. But there's so many there were so many people that you know went through a day, so it wasn't like you knew everybody.
00:13:02
Shelley
But yeah, I was like kind of put out like they were using my cup. But I mean, that's petty on me.
00:13:09
Victoria Ouellette
It's definitely your fault.
00:13:09
Heather
i know for sure I know for sure if I left my cup in the kitchen, it would get used.
00:13:14
Heather
But i always I always wash it and put it back in my office.
00:13:14
Victoria Ouellette
Well, yeah, a hundred percent for me too.
00:13:20
Victoria Ouellette
We have like,
00:13:20
Heather
So maybe that's maybe that's the petty part in me that I just keep my own cup in my office. I don't know.
00:13:24
Victoria Ouellette
yeah, maybe. No, i yeah don I don't know. I think it's legit. Yeah. We have cabinets full of coffee cups at work that people just go and grab. So if I were to leave mine in the kitchen, a hundred percent, somebody else would use it.
00:13:39
Victoria Ouellette
So yeah, definitely. That's on Shelly.
00:13:45
Shelley
ah Yeah, it's on me 100%. Okay, so I don't think this really pertains to us, but I don't know. So if your friend invites their new to Girls' Night without asking or warning, are we allowed to be mad?
00:14:06
Shelley
Valid feelings or jealous energy? Like just Girls' Night. No husbands, no girlfriends.
00:14:11
Victoria Ouellette
No, that's a valid.
00:14:14
Victoria Ouellette
It's girls night and you're bringing somebody with you.
00:14:16
Shelley
Your boyfriend or partner.
00:14:20
Shelley
New partner. New. We don't even know this person.
00:14:22
Victoria Ouellette
I was going to say the fact that they're new, you know.
00:14:25
Heather
Well, think the fact that they didn't ask, yeah, it would be valid.
00:14:28
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, that they're new.
00:14:29
Victoria Ouellette
We don't know them and. You're just bringing them without even saying anything to something we normally do just us. I mean, to be honest, it could be male or female. I would feel the same way.
00:14:42
Victoria Ouellette
Like, at least tell me.
00:14:44
Victoria Ouellette
Give me a heads up.
00:14:45
Victoria Ouellette
They're brand new. I don't know them. They don't know me. If you want to plan a meeting, we can do that. But don't bring them to girls night or whatever it is. A just us situation that was planned.
00:14:56
Victoria Ouellette
Not without at least saying. Like, I probably wouldn't even say no if you asked, but like.
00:15:01
Heather
I was going to say that if you at least asked, then it probably wouldn't have been a big deal, but you don't ask, then that's a problem.
00:15:04
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:15:07
Victoria Ouellette
Then I might be upset. Yeah. So legit, that is legit or valid, whatever we're calling it.
00:15:15
Victoria Ouellette
feel like it's kind of in between.
00:15:18
Victoria Ouellette
So I picked this one because i never even thought of it as being a big deal, but I seen it.
00:15:28
Victoria Ouellette
I seen it and I was like, wait, really? Do people think that's petty? um So should you ever order the same dish as your friend at a restaurant?
00:15:39
Heather
I don't um i'll see the problem.
00:15:41
Shelley
Yeah, I don't see the problem. If that's what you like.
00:15:44
Victoria Ouellette
I don't either. Like, why wouldn't...
00:15:47
Shelley
Okay, perfect example. we were at, I think it was one of your kids' birthday, Heather. Chili's. Remember that?
00:15:57
Shelley
Like, a couple months ago or whatever? How many of us ordered the Honey Chipotle chicken tenders?
00:16:03
Heather
It was a lot of us.
00:16:05
Heather
And that's what i that's what I get every single time I go there.
00:16:06
Shelley
There was like six of us.
00:16:07
Heather
So if somebody wants to be petty about it, then I don't know what to tell you.
00:16:08
Shelley
Same, that's all I did. That's what I get every time I order from Chili's.
00:16:11
Victoria Ouellette
yeah Then that's on you.
00:16:14
Shelley
Chili's has the best honey chicken.
00:16:15
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. When I read it, i was like, wait, is that a thing?
00:16:18
Victoria Ouellette
Like, do people not want you to order the same thing as them? Like, I don't care if that's what you were like. You're paying for it, not me. i mean, even if I am paying for it, I guess.
00:16:29
Victoria Ouellette
Get what you're going to eat. I want you to eat what you what I'm paying for.
00:16:31
Heather
I was gonna say, i legit always tell my kids, I don't care as long as you're eating it, as long as you're gonna eat it.
00:16:32
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:16:37
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. So I don't know. I picked that one because it's kind of weird. Like, I just, I guess I never thought about it, but I think, I guess I could see people maybe caring. I don't know.
00:16:48
Victoria Ouellette
ah just thought it was funny.
Leaving Group Chats Over Disagreements
00:16:52
Heather
Okay. um let's see um leaving a friend group chat after a minor disagreement petty or valid
00:17:04
Victoria Ouellette
Petty.
00:17:05
Shelley
Penny. 100% Penny.
00:17:06
Victoria Ouellette
So petty.
00:17:09
Heather
yeah i agree i think it's petty
00:17:10
Shelley
Like the chance of you getting invited back to that chat is going to be zilch probably. or a new chat is going to be made because you damn well you damn well know that as soon as you left whoever's in that chat with you they're talking about you you're not getting invited back so that's petty and you should not be petty about that just mute the conversation and like there is yeah
00:17:20
Victoria Ouellette
If you're willing to leave that easy, like they talked about you.
00:17:36
Heather
There is a lot of petty people like that, though. i mean...
00:17:39
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Oh, yeah. hundred percent 100%. That's funny, though. Wow.
00:17:42
Shelley
I don't know if I've ever left it like that. like Maybe a long time ago, like three years ago, left a group chat.
00:17:49
Heather
long time ago is three years.
00:17:49
Shelley
But like, yeah, Wi-Fi was longer than that.
00:17:53
Shelley
But ah to be fair, there was a group chat of four people and three out of the four people left. so but
00:18:11
Shelley
I took back my like after realizing they didn't like my post first. What? Petty? or valid?
00:18:22
Victoria Ouellette
Petty.
00:18:23
Victoria Ouellette
Definitely petty.
00:18:23
Shelley
I guess petty on the Facebook.
00:18:26
Victoria Ouellette
Maybe they didn't see yet.
00:18:29
Shelley
Oh, you know they've seen it.
00:18:31
Victoria Ouellette
Maybe they're busy.
00:18:32
Shelley
Do you know how many times I've posted on Facebook? I don't post that much on Facebook. And one person likes my post way, like, hours, even maybe the next day later.
00:18:45
Shelley
and that one person is sitting in this room right now.
00:18:50
Shelley
Not sitting in this room, sorry. In this group right here.
00:18:53
Victoria Ouellette
wow I was going to say, I will have you know that there's tons of times where I will see stuff at work, like while I'm scrolling, and then I'll get a phone call or somebody will walk in and I'll have to like set my phone down real quick.
00:19:08
Victoria Ouellette
And then sometimes once you see a post on Facebook and you refresh, it's completely gone.
00:19:14
Victoria Ouellette
So that happens to me all the time.
00:19:15
Shelley
I know. I'm just giving you crap.
00:19:19
Shelley
I'm like, dude, what um like two why why didn't you like my post?
00:19:19
Victoria Ouellette
So I guess that's why I it was defending the other person that didn't like
00:19:25
Shelley
Do you like everybody else? But mine. Okay. Um, yeah.
00:19:30
Victoria Ouellette
I guess you're posting at the wrong time, Shelley.
00:19:33
Heather
you need to wait until we're home and not at work.
00:19:36
Victoria Ouellette
And then post. Or like post it when we're on our way home.
00:19:38
Shelley
Now you're going to have all these...
00:19:41
Victoria Ouellette
You know?
00:19:42
Shelley
Yep. I'm going to start doing that, and you're going all these posts from me now at that time.
00:19:47
Victoria Ouellette
And we'll like every single one of them, you know?
00:19:52
Heather
You'll notice such a big difference, Shelly.
00:19:54
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. You'll get two likes.
00:20:03
Victoria Ouellette
Um, okay. So am going to go with,
00:20:12
Victoria Ouellette
is it petty or legit to feel irritated when someone doesn't hold the door open for you, especially if you're right behind them?
00:20:21
Shelley
If it slaps in my face, I'm irritated.
00:20:26
Heather
I think that's petty, but I think that's only, i feel like that's a me feeling because i don't expect, like it's nice, but I don't expect people to hold the door open for me. But it is nice when they do it, but i don't know.
00:20:38
Shelley
i I don't know. Like, I've never, I've never came across that where I was right behind somebody and they didn't hold the door. Unless it was somebody I know, they purposely didn't hold the door and I'm like, oh, thanks for not holding the door or whatever.
00:20:50
Shelley
But don't think I've ever had, like, a stranger. But mind you, though, Tony always grabs, like, when I'm with Tony, he always grabs the door first and opens it so I can go through.
00:21:00
Shelley
So, I don't know. but I'm lucky, I guess.
00:21:03
Victoria Ouellette
I agree that I think it's petty.
00:21:03
Shelley
always have him with me.
00:21:05
Victoria Ouellette
um And I think this is actually something I experience every single day, like almost every single day, at least in my work building.
00:21:14
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, I don't care. I really don't care. Like, I also think it's we have a door that you can go up and wave your hand in front of it and it opens the door for you. So like. Like, I don't care.
00:21:26
Victoria Ouellette
But there's people that'll do that. Like it's more so leaving for the day because I have like my work bag, like my wheelie work bag thing. And I'll have like my drink in my hand and my lunchbox. I'll have a handful of stuff and you'll see people just go out in front of me and then just not even hold the door like with me right behind them.
00:21:41
Shelley
That's, yeah, that's not cool.
00:21:42
Victoria Ouellette
Like, thanks guys. I'm, you know, you can see I got everything in my hands, but that's not their problem. That's, that's my problem. So no, I do think would be right.
00:21:50
Heather
They're ready to go home.
00:21:52
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. So, I mean, yeah.
00:21:52
Shelley
I just think it's the more polite thing to do is to hold the door open.
00:21:56
Victoria Ouellette
I agree. But I also and maybe this is like my anxiety. Like if people if someone holds the door for me and I'm just like a couple steps further away, i feel so bad. Like, don't wait on me. I'll get my own door.
00:22:09
Shelley
Yeah, I guess, because that's true, because then they're then you're like, you're running.
00:22:11
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Now that. Yeah. Rushing like, thank you for doing something so nice as holding the door for me. But now I have anxiety over it. Thanks.
00:22:19
Victoria Ouellette
You know, yeah.
00:22:22
Victoria Ouellette
And it's kind of the same for the elevator because I have to get on the elevator to go, up you know, to the sixth floor at work. And, um, but there's also like, people can sometimes go straight. So a lot of people don't tend to hold the elevator for people. Cause you just don't know where they're going.
00:22:36
Victoria Ouellette
Um, like you could hold the elevator and they're like, not even getting on it, you know? So, so, so yeah, I think that happens a lot too, where the elevator is like shut in your face, but yeah.
00:22:41
Heather
Yeah, that's true.
00:22:48
Victoria Ouellette
And I feel like it could be the same thing. i don't find it petty. I think it's if you didn't know and you're just trying to get to work, man. So.
00:22:54
Shelley
I tried, like, with the elevator thing. Yeah. There's been times... I can't hold the door! I'm sorry! That
00:23:02
Victoria Ouellette
But I do feel bad, like when I do it, like on accident, because I'll try to hold the door, like for the elevator at least.
00:23:08
Victoria Ouellette
But and I'll think they're going straight or I didn't see them because I'm just really not paying attention. I feel so bad, even though I shouldn't like. So it's kind of funny. Definitely petty, though. I don't think you should feel entitled to that. Do I think it's the nice thing to do? Yeah, for sure. You should hold the door for people. You should be nice, be kind to the world. But.
00:23:31
Heather
help them out if they need it yeah but it's no yeah definitely not uh is it my turn i feel like we switched orders somehow we did right
00:23:33
Victoria Ouellette
Right. But is it your responsibility? No, definitely not.
00:23:38
Victoria Ouellette
So. if
00:23:41
Shelley
I don't know. You go. And then I'll go after you.
00:23:43
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, you go. No, we've been going in the same order. I do think at one point we switched, but it's all right.
00:23:49
Heather
and Well, I only say that because I remember saying, okay, Shelley, you go next. So, and then now we're in a different order. Anyways, anyways. My next one will be ah refusing to let someone merge in traffic because they sped past you earlier. Petty or valid?
00:24:04
Victoria Ouellette
Definitely petty, but I'm doing it.
00:24:04
Shelley
Betty. Betty. Well, I just started driving again, so i'm going to be as nice as possible on the road.
00:24:17
Victoria Ouellette
It depends. Like, were they? I don't. Yeah, I'm most likely doing it. But I do try to remember to, like, be kind to people
00:24:17
Heather
No, I'm definitely doing it.
Traffic Merging Etiquette
00:24:26
Victoria Ouellette
but sometimes.
00:24:26
Heather
So i drive a really busy road every day.
00:24:30
Heather
and I mean, I know you do too, sis, but um um i I have to remind myself on that road not to be that way. but So a lot of the times, and especially lately, I'll be like, oh, well, just whatever.
00:24:41
Heather
If you want to go past me, go past me. But just don't go past me and then get in front of me and go slow. Like that, that drives me crazy.
00:24:49
Heather
Like if you literally just flew by me and then now you're slowing me down, like what is your problem?
00:24:54
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:24:54
Heather
That's when, that's when I start being petty.
00:24:57
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, I agree.
00:24:59
Victoria Ouellette
But I have a a sticker on my car on the back of my car that says, I hope something good happens to you today. And so I feel like sometimes I'll remember that bumper sticker is on my car.
00:25:11
Victoria Ouellette
Like, like, no, I should live by that and not live.
00:25:18
Victoria Ouellette
Do mean things through the in traffic. But it's hard because I will say like I, you know, I live in Orlando, so i drive crazy busy roads home in rush hour every day.
00:25:29
Victoria Ouellette
And sometimes I have no choice. Like these guys are not smart driver.
00:25:34
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Like, I'll be trying to, like, get off a turning lane that I've been sitting in for 20 minutes, not even exaggerating, maybe even longer. And people will go all the way around people and try to cut in front of me.
00:25:45
Victoria Ouellette
ah No, I'm sorry. I've been waiting here for 20 minutes. I'm also trying to get home and I've been nice to three people already. I have to cut my niceness off at some point and and get home.
00:25:57
Heather
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:25:58
Shelley
Tony has a sticker on the back of our card. It says US Air Force veteran. So we always think that people pass him on purpose because they think he's like a 90 year old guy or something.
00:26:08
Heather
was going to say a really old guy.
00:26:10
Shelley
but So it's funny. It's funny, funny.
00:26:14
Victoria Ouellette
Well, people do that because I drive a van. So I always think the same thing.
00:26:18
Victoria Ouellette
Oh, they're like, oh, behind a van. They're not going anywhere fast.
00:26:24
Shelley
Like, have you driven with her before?
00:26:29
Victoria Ouellette
My van can move it pretty fast. Thank you very much.
00:26:35
Heather
Yeah, know I don't get those feelings, like those vibes from anybody because i drive an SUV, so.
00:26:47
Shelley
who is guilty of this one? Alright, be honest here. We're not judging. Maybe a little bit, but okay.
00:26:52
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, we are. Okay.
00:26:55
Shelley
I'm not saying this myself, but I purposely didn't open their text so they wouldn't think I'm too available.
00:27:03
Shelley
Petty or a strategic mystery? So have you ever left anybody unread?
00:27:10
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, yeah, all the time.
00:27:15
Shelley
Wow, that was very easy for you to say.
00:27:20
Heather
sure Shelly Shelly kind of looked like it was shocked like she was shocked that we just openly admitted that so since you guys can't see her face
00:27:20
Shelley
don't think I've ever...
00:27:20
Victoria Ouellette
We're not a but not ashamed.
00:27:30
Shelley
um I gotta say that I've maybe done that few times, but eventually answered them. Eventually.
00:27:40
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, I'm not saying I didn't eventually answer them.
00:27:43
Shelley
I could have been upset.
00:27:43
Victoria Ouellette
It might have been 24 to 48 hours later.
00:27:46
Shelley
I could have been upset.
00:27:47
Shelley
I could have been upset with that person and didn't want to talk to them at that time. Or i just didn't want to talk to anybody. So yeah.
00:27:55
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, and that's okay. That's a legit feeling.
00:27:59
Victoria Ouellette
don't really think it's, it really depends. on I mean, i I know we've said this a lot. It really depends on the reason behind it. It could be petty. But I think a lot of times it might be you're busy or for your own mental health, or like you said, you didn't want to talk to anybody.
00:28:13
Victoria Ouellette
And that would make it legit or valid for me because, you know, your mental health matters. Your what you need matters. So.
00:28:22
Shelley
I honestly think the worst, not the worst feeling, but like kind of a bad feeling sometimes is when you message somebody. And I know everybody's busy, so I'm not like giving crap about it or anything like that.
00:28:34
Shelley
But sometimes I get in my head a little bit if I message somebody and they read it and they don't respond to me until the next day. And it was like legit...
00:28:43
Victoria Ouellette
I would never have known that, Shelly. I would have never known that.
00:28:48
Shelley
It was like a legit question or a little legit, you know, like messaging somebody saying, well,
00:28:53
Victoria Ouellette
Shelly will message me at like 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, maybe one and go, hey, how's your day going? I'll read it because I'm at work. And then I'll get busy and pulled away real quick.
00:29:05
Victoria Ouellette
Or I can read it even while I'm on the phone at work and then not answer her.
00:29:07
Shelley
wait, to did you, did you answer me today?
00:29:09
Victoria Ouellette
I'll get a message an hour later.
00:29:11
Shelley
did you and message answer me today?
00:29:14
Victoria Ouellette
I don't know.
00:29:14
Heather
Did you leave Shelley on red today?
00:29:16
Victoria Ouellette
Let's see.
00:29:17
Shelley
I sent her a really nice text today and I said, i said,
00:29:20
Victoria Ouellette
think I think I left her on red. Hold on. i Yeah, I did.
00:29:25
Shelley
I said, i said, has anybody told you that you're awesome today?
00:29:25
Victoria Ouellette
like left her on red today.
00:29:30
Shelley
Well, I did. And she never responded. I'm like, yeah.
00:29:35
Victoria Ouellette
Yep. At 5.50 p.m.
00:29:37
Victoria Ouellette
She said, I hope you have a good day. Love you. Has anyone told you today that you're awesome? Well, I just did. And I've never responded. Not even yet.
00:29:45
Shelley
Not even. Not even yet.
00:29:48
Heather
It is almost, it's almost too late.
00:29:48
Victoria Ouellette
Not even yet.
00:29:51
Heather
Yeah, it's almost too late.
00:29:53
Shelley
It's almost the next day.
00:29:55
Victoria Ouellette
Well, I have, don't I have 24 hours?
00:29:56
Victoria Ouellette
Like, isn't that?
00:29:58
Victoria Ouellette
Okay, good.
00:29:59
Shelley
I get it. When it comes to like ah so you know because we've been friends for so long, you get a Okay.
00:30:06
Victoria Ouellette
I'm going to pass guys.
00:30:09
Victoria Ouellette
But I will just it's only when you message me when I'm at work. like Today was like the worst. It was like one fire after another. There was like three fires at once today, actually.
00:30:21
Victoria Ouellette
like It was...
00:30:23
Heather
Not legit fires, by the way.
00:30:24
Shelley
I got so i think what I yeah she's not a firefighter guys uh so I think I'm what I'm getting what I'm getting out of this episode today is that I need to stop texting you during work hours and wait till you get home but don't expect yeah you
00:30:26
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, no. No. No.
00:30:29
Victoria Ouellette
yeah no
00:30:30
Heather
Just wanted to clarify it.
00:30:41
Victoria Ouellette
mean, you can text me at work. Just don't expect an answer back. Yeah. Unless I'm like talking in other chats and you see it, then that does happen.
00:30:50
Shelley
I mean, that happens.
00:30:53
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. I.
Delayed Text Responses
00:30:57
Heather
That's happened to me before too.
00:30:58
Heather
I'll be like, why isn't she answering me? She she just answered in this other chat.
00:31:02
Shelley
We have so many group chats and it's like, I mean, she's answered these three chats, but she can't answer my personal chat. Like, what the hell?
00:31:11
Victoria Ouellette
like there's a good chance like i'm just going through the list like if on days like that that it happens pay attention because i guarantee you'll see me answer one and then the next and then the next so it really depends on where you fall in line out of your text message compared to everybody else okay yeah exactly
00:31:24
Shelley
Yeah, i noticed that that day.
00:31:29
Heather
Just keep messaging and you'll be at the top, Shelly.
00:31:32
Heather
So that's what you get from that.
00:31:33
Shelley
yeah like keep messaging.
00:31:33
Heather
Just keep messaging and you'll be at the top.
00:31:37
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Well, I don't, sometimes I go from the bottom up. So I you'll never know.
00:31:40
Heather
Oh, well, no, you'll never, you'll never know.
00:31:42
Victoria Ouellette
You messaged more than once and now you're done.
00:31:46
Victoria Ouellette
I may get, I may be too busy, but I reach the top to answer it. If a phone call happens at work and I only answered two chats, well, we start over in an hour.
00:31:56
Shelley
So she answers you during the day, guys. <unk>ts Congratulations.
00:32:06
Victoria Ouellette
Oh my gosh. Okay. I'm going to do mine.
00:32:13
Heather
We gonna do one more round or?
00:32:15
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, let's do so. Yeah, let's make this lash round, right?
00:32:18
Shelley
Yes, because I have one more I want to do.
00:32:19
Victoria Ouellette
You have one more. Okay, perfect. That works out. um Is it petty or legit to expect someone to replace something they borrowed and broke?
00:32:32
Heather
is it petty to expect somebody to replace it?
00:32:33
Victoria Ouellette
Is it petty? to If they borrowed it and broke it.
00:32:39
Shelley
did they break it on purpose they broke it i think it's valid that they should replace it if it was expensive important to you
00:32:40
Heather
I don't think I don't think it's petty, but it depends on what it is. Like, if it's something real expensive and, like, you knew how important it was to me, like, something that I can't just
00:32:58
Victoria Ouellette
definitely think it's it's valid.
00:32:58
Heather
If it was it was like a $5 cup or something, then no yeah You're just being buddies.
00:33:03
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:33:04
Victoria Ouellette
But I also think that I don't know that I'd let somebody borrow something if it really meant that much to me.
00:33:12
Victoria Ouellette
But I think the other person should, if you're a good person, you would want to replace it.
00:33:17
Victoria Ouellette
You know what i mean? For your friend, like you borrowed it.
00:33:21
Victoria Ouellette
So I don't think it's petty. I think it's valid, legit.
00:33:26
Shelley
I don't know if I've ever borrowed anything and broke something that I can think of.
00:33:30
Heather
I can't think of anything I've ever done.
00:33:31
Shelley
I can't think of anything. And if I did, 100% replaced it
00:33:33
Victoria Ouellette
Me either, but yeah, for sure.
00:33:39
Shelley
I thought for sure my snowman boa was going to be gone forever. Just kidding. Just kidding. I got it at the dollar store.
00:33:46
Victoria Ouellette
My kids used that for cereal while we had it.
00:33:48
Shelley
You should have kept
00:33:49
Victoria Ouellette
They used it for soup. like
00:33:51
Shelley
I should have just let you have it. And then I would the other one. And I was like, yeah.
00:33:55
Victoria Ouellette
Oh, look, best friend bowls
00:33:55
Heather
Well, when you come over for Christmas, you just need to bring her some, Shelley. You need to go to the dollar store and get her some.
00:34:01
Shelley
i'm going to um I'm going to bring a bunch of those bowls for everybody.
00:34:05
Heather
bowl for you, bowl for you, bowl for you.
00:34:06
Shelley
And we'll all have, well, the three of us, we'll have one.
00:34:06
Victoria Ouellette
Hand them out.
00:34:09
Shelley
Yep. We'll each have one. And we'll put the 28th Angle.
00:34:10
Victoria Ouellette
Best friend bowls.
00:34:11
Shelley
goal Put the 28th Angle podcast on there.
00:34:13
Heather
See, when we record, we can eat something out of them.
00:34:16
Heather
I don't know what, but don't know about I don't know about recording and eating at the same time, but you know.
00:34:18
Victoria Ouellette
but What are we eating?
00:34:18
Shelley
Maybe a hot dog Taco
00:34:20
Shelley
Yeah. ASMR. ASMR.
00:34:24
Victoria Ouellette
Sounds like a bad idea. Yeah. yeah
00:34:26
Victoria Ouellette
Just here crunching.
00:34:31
Heather
Okay, my turn, guess.
00:34:33
Victoria Ouellette
Your last one.
00:34:35
Heather
Let's see, I will choose keeping score of who texts first, petty or valid.
00:34:42
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, Shelly, petty or valid?
00:34:47
Victoria Ouellette
Let's hear it, Shelly.
00:34:47
Shelley
I'm ah bad for this because if I keep texting you and texting you and you don't answer then I'm going to wait a while and then wait for you to text me first so it could be eight months until we talk again
00:34:48
Victoria Ouellette
Let's hear it.
00:35:02
Shelley
I'm not saying you, but like, it's happened.
00:35:06
Victoria Ouellette
So is it petty?
00:35:07
Shelley
I think it's petty.
00:35:08
Victoria Ouellette
Are you being petty?
00:35:09
Shelley
I'm being very petty.
00:35:15
Shelley
But it hasn't happened in a long time. A long time, Yeah.
00:35:18
Victoria Ouellette
I can agree that it's petty, but it really, and I know this, we keep saying it, it really depends on the situation. Like, like a friendship or a relationship on any level should be two ways.
00:35:30
Victoria Ouellette
So like, if you're always counting, oh, I always text you first. Well, personalities matter too, you know? So it's a little petty just to do it as long as the other side gives back in their own way.
00:35:44
Victoria Ouellette
Then yeah, you're being petty, but.
00:35:44
Heather
So I feel like it's only, i don't want to say it's only valid, obviously,
00:35:51
Heather
feel how you want to feel but I think that it would be valid to me like from my standpoint at the beginning of any kind of relationship a friendship uh you know romantic relationship any of that I think it's valid for you to figure out who's texting who first like keeping i don't want to say keeping score even though that's what it says but like if you're constantly just texting the other person and it's in a new relationship then then maybe you should think of
00:36:15
Shelley
Yeah. Yeah, the person that you're...
00:36:18
Heather
Like, are they too busy for you? Do they not want to talk to you?
00:36:22
Victoria Ouellette
Do they not even think about you to even message you?
00:36:24
Victoria Ouellette
Do they not want to talk to me?
00:36:26
Victoria Ouellette
i can agree with that. If it was a brand new relationship on any level, friendship, you know, relationship, any kind of friendship um or relationship. I mean, yeah, I mean, I could agree that I agree that it would be valid only in the new.
00:36:40
Heather
And the new era of it, yeah.
00:36:41
Victoria Ouellette
ah Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anything past that is a little valid.
00:36:46
Victoria Ouellette
I it's little petty. Yeah.
00:36:47
Heather
Yeah, yeah, for sure.
00:36:52
Shelley
There's some really funny ones out there in the world. So a i judge I judged someone because their phone battery was always at 1%.
00:37:05
Shelley
Like, what are you running from? Petty or valid?
00:37:09
Heather
Sounds familiar. Whose phone's always at 1%?
00:37:14
Shelley
Not mine. Mine's always at 100%. phone's at 1%? whose phone said ah one percent
00:37:21
Victoria Ouellette
she'll know when she hears this.
00:37:25
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Yeah. Our mom's always dead or dying.
00:37:26
Heather
Her phone's always dead.
00:37:27
Shelley
Oh, her phone's always dead.
00:37:31
Heather
so what is it? Is it petty that we're judging her for? it Is that what it is?
00:37:35
Shelley
It says petty or survival instinct. That's what it said. Yeah, is it petty because you judge her for having her phone battery at 1%?
00:37:42
Heather
I don't know how to answer it.
00:37:46
Shelley
Or is she like...
00:37:46
Victoria Ouellette
I think it's probably a little petty. Yeah. Cause what does it matter to us? I
00:37:51
Shelley
It's not really like... We're not like really like judging her. It's just we're poking fun at her.
00:37:55
Victoria Ouellette
but pick at her. Yeah.
00:37:56
Shelley
Yeah. It's like it's your phone. I mean, if you're going to need it it's only 1%, what are you going to I got my phone. My phone's at 100%. And I have a solar power battery charger too, so
00:38:09
Victoria Ouellette
Well, I mean, I don't know. It's a little legit. Like for, especially ah like her, for example, um I don't really want to say the big reason, but like, it's mostly so we can check on her, like make sure she's good, make sure she's okay.
00:38:22
Victoria Ouellette
Like, and so when her phone's dead, we can't do that.
00:38:26
Victoria Ouellette
That makes us worry. um So I do think it's kind of valid.
00:38:32
Shelley
She needs to have like ah one of the those magnetic... ah mate What are they called? Magsave?
00:38:38
Shelley
For iPhone? Yeah.
00:38:39
Heather
She probably has one, doesn't she, or no?
00:38:41
Shelley
She needs one at her desk.
00:38:42
Victoria Ouellette
and style
00:38:43
Heather
She needs one everywhere she sits.
00:38:45
Shelley
Everywhere she sits.
00:38:46
Victoria Ouellette
that would still mean that she has to put it there yeah
00:38:46
Heather
No, the ah problem is, i was going to say, the problem is she sits her phone down and walks away from everywhere.
00:38:49
Shelley
um Yeah, that's true.
00:38:52
Heather
She always says that she never has it.
00:38:53
Shelley
always heard i always hear that. Like, oh, I gotta go get my phone. Like, my phone... Like, Tony would say my phone's glued to my hand. That's what he would tell me.
00:39:01
Victoria Ouellette
I often set mine down forget but i I will remember pretty quickly that I need to go get it oh true
00:39:06
Heather
I often ah have to set mine down and forget, but i have I usually always have my watch on.
00:39:10
Heather
So if it goes off and I see something like important pop up, I'd be like, oh and let me go find my phone.
00:39:14
Victoria Ouellette
Let me go answer.
00:39:15
Shelley
I stopped wearing my watch after two days.
00:39:18
Shelley
I just had my watch on, and then I...
00:39:20
Victoria Ouellette
Two days.
00:39:21
Shelley
um Well, I mean, I had it on for a long time and then I just recently, because I got a new phone, so I just recently paired it with my new phone and I had it on for two days and I was like, it's annoying me, so yeah.
00:39:33
Victoria Ouellette
ah really, really want to watch, but I haven't got one yet. So maybe one day.
00:39:37
Shelley
Just get a renewed one from Amazon. That's what did.
00:39:41
Heather
want a new watch, a newer watch.
00:39:42
Shelley
I want a new one. I want a new one. um
00:39:47
Victoria Ouellette
Maybe one day.
00:39:47
Shelley
But yeah, one day.
00:39:50
Shelley
Oh, what I was going to say about the phone thing was I actually panic just a little bit. If I go to bed and my phone's at like 20% because I'm like, I do my crosswords ah every night on my phone.
00:40:05
Victoria Ouellette
Shall learn her crosswords.
00:40:07
Shelley
I have to do crossword puzzle before I go to bed every night. And if my phone dies, yeah.
00:40:15
Victoria Ouellette
Wait, I want to read this one because it's funny. The one in Discord. I don't think you guys read it.
00:40:19
Heather
one oh I've seen that yeah
00:40:21
Victoria Ouellette
Pretending to forget someone's name because they annoyed you once. Patty or Valid? What? That's definitely Patty.
00:40:34
Victoria Ouellette
No questions asked. All right. Well, so that is going to be it for this episode, guys. I hope you enjoyed it. We had some fun answering questions.
00:40:46
Victoria Ouellette
um It's all in good fun. no no harm, meant real judgment here.
00:40:50
Shelley
We all love each other.
00:40:52
Victoria Ouellette
Live your best life. ah You do you. um i feel like we're all petty at least a little bit at some point. So and that's OK.
00:41:00
Heather
For sure, but without a doubt.
00:41:03
Victoria Ouellette
So we will see you guys next week.
00:41:07
Heather
Thanks for listening.
00:41:09
Shelley
Thanks for having us. Bye.
00:41:10
Victoria Ouellette
Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next week.
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