Transcript
Heather: Hey guys, welcome back.
Victoria Ouellette: hi welcome back, everybody.
Shelley: hey happy hump day.
Victoria Ouellette: We're excited to be back for another episode.
Heather: you guys do anything fun this this past week? Weekend?
Victoria Ouellette: Now, I was so busy last weekend that I just chilled this weekend, and I'm so glad.
Shelley: No.
Shelley: Did absolutely nothing, which is fine.
Victoria Ouellette: What about you?
Heather: um i was trying to think dang i almost don't remember but yeah
Shelley: That busy, huh?
Victoria Ouellette: That eventful. ah
Heather: i do feel like i had a lot going on but like nothing like fun fun just busy busy stuff yeah but yeah that's it shelly you want to tell us what today's episode's going to be about
Victoria Ouellette: Everyday life. Yeah.
Shelley: Yes. So today's episode is going to be about petty versus, or sorry, petty or valid.
Shelley: So are you being dramatic? Or is this actually disrespectful? So we're going to get into a few scenarios. um No judgment.
Shelley: Actually, lots of judgment. So how about we just get into it? Who's going to start?
Heather: I think Victoria should start. go ahead.
Victoria Ouellette: Okay. Yeah. I'll start then. so is it petty or legit to not tip when you have a really bad service during a night out at a restaurant?
Heather: I think it's valid.
Heather: You said it was bad, right?
Shelley: I mean
Victoria Ouellette: It was bad service. Yeah. You had bad service.
Shelley: so we usually tip quite well but if it was bad service I would still tip but it wouldn't be very much that's just me though like if they spilled drinks all over me and everything like that no I'd be like no it's okay like thanks but
Heather: I mean, I guess it depended on how bad it actually was if I would.
Victoria Ouellette: they' just having a really bad day
Shelley: No, I'd probably just, I'd probably still tip him, but not as well. Maybe I'm not sure.
Heather: I was gonna say, I think it would depend on the type of bad it was.
Shelley: I don't know.
Heather: Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: i agree like you if you can tell they're just really busy and there's but they're trying but it just they it just failed like yes right
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: like it's not their fault i mean it could be wherever you were at
Shelley: But if they're like not busy and they're just like hanging around talking with their friends or yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Well, like you can see them across at the register, just texting their friends and laughing in the kitchen.
Shelley: And they don't care. Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, but I will say, i mean, it's petty, but am I going to do it?
Shelley: then yeah, probably not tip as well.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Yes.
Shelley: ah
Heather: I mean, I always
Victoria Ouellette: It might be petty, but I'm still going to do it.
Heather: i
Heather: i always do think about like that's that's how they make their, most of them, that's how they make their living. so
Victoria Ouellette: Right. Right.
Heather: But like i what but i I guess I have to think about like, not everybody's like me, but when I go to work, I go to work and do my job.
Victoria Ouellette: work yeah yeah right
Heather: so So I guess and there's that.
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: Do you want to go next, Shelley?
Shelley: Okay. so this one I have being offended when your friend hangs out with their other friends without you.
Victoria Ouellette: Legit.
Heather: sounds like Sounds like she might be targeting. Sounds like she might be targeting this one.
Victoria Ouellette: ah that
Shelley: valid emotional damage or codependent behavior
Heather: Okay.
Shelley: i mean i think it for me it would matter like if i was free that day and i was friends with this person as well and i was live close by
Victoria Ouellette: Shelly, what did I do?
Heather: When did she hang out with somebody else?
Victoria Ouellette: When did that happen?
Shelley: I can't think of anything right now, but yeah, just, don't know.
Victoria Ouellette: No, I mean, yeah, like you said, I think i my first instinct is to say it's legit.
Shelley: That just.
Victoria Ouellette: um But it would depend. Like, yeah, is are they with that friend, like posting pictures and like sending videos laughing together? or like No, you know what I mean? When it's like legit, like, okay, wow.
Shelley: Like, what about me?
Victoria Ouellette: Why didn't I get invited? in
Shelley: yeah
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: But if if you're doing it, if you feel that way because you don't like their other friend, ah that could be a little petty.
Shelley: Yeah. Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, it I guess it depends on the reason you're really feeling that way. Like.
Heather: I think my go-to answer, my first instinct answer I should say say would be to say petty.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean.
Heather: But I do get, like, I guess some of the valid reasons that that people could say valid, like depending on the situation or there's a lot of things that could be there that could cause things to be, I guess, valid. But my first instinct answer would be to say petty.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, really, the only the only way it could even really be valid for me is if it's like you were free that day. you guys are all friends. You would normally hang out all together.
Victoria Ouellette: And then that one time they chose not to do it, then it's like, OK, well, that's legit.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: But even if it was like. you're free that day and you didn't get invited, but it's something that those two people do all the time together and always have alone, like then that would, then it would be petty.
Shelley: or
Victoria Ouellette: It's like, okay, that's their time together too, you know? So yeah, I agree. Different scenarios, but mostly petty, but some legit.
Heather: Okay. um I'll go with, let's see. I was going to do everyday chaos. Taking the longer route just to avoid someone you know. Petty or valid?
Victoria Ouellette: That's valid.
Shelley: Is it someone that you don't want to talk to?
Heather: Yeah, I guess.
Shelley: Don't want to have a conversation?
Heather: If you're taking longer route to avoid someone that you know, assumingly you don't want to talk to them, right?
Shelley: kind of petty, I think.
Victoria Ouellette: You think that's petty?
Shelley: I do. Because I would be like, just say I didn't want to talk to you. And I seen you like, so I can't use you because if I didn't talk to you and I seen you on the street, you would like, what hell's your problem?
Shelley: I don't know who to use in this scenario.
Victoria Ouellette: I would confront you. what you're saying?
Shelley: Yeah. You're like, what are you doing?
Victoria Ouellette: She'd really have to avoid me.
Shelley: is I I can't even think of an example.
Victoria Ouellette: She would have to know for sure that she could avoid me. Wow, that makes me sound so mean, Shelly.
Shelley: Well, no, it's just because we're best friends, you know, like if I trying to avoid you, like why am I trying to avoid you?
Victoria Ouellette: There's bigger problems. Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah. So somebody that I'm not really close with or something, um i would just walk past them and be like, hey, what's up? Sorry, I got to I got something to do Let's chat later. Or I'll text you later.
Heather: Would you do, would you though, Shelley?
Victoria Ouellette: Shelly, you don't confront anybody.
Shelley: No, I would just walk.
Victoria Ouellette: i think you'd walk around the entire Walmart before you would rock your run into somebody.
Shelley: I would just say hi and then I would keep going.
Victoria Ouellette: If you really didn't want to talk to them. What if it was somebody that you knew liked to talk and would stop you?
Shelley: Okay.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, you knew for sure. And you don't hate them.
Shelley: Like, and if I was busy, because I'm busy and I have to be somewhere.
Victoria Ouellette: You just don't want to talk to them right now. Because you're busy. You have to go somewhere. Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah. Then if I had, if I had, if I was busy and I had to go somewhere and there was that one person that could like talk to me for three hours in one sitting, yes, it's legit.
Shelley: I would go around Walmart so that they didn't see me.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, exactly. And I would say it's legit because, i mean, really, you're the one going out of your way to avoid it.
Shelley: Okay. Okay.
Victoria Ouellette: You're making sure you don't hurt their feelings, really, as well. As opposed to, like, walking up, them saying, trying to say hi, and you're like, no, I'm busy, I'm going to go.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, that might be kind of mean or petty.
Shelley: Well, no, I would say hi. I would say hi. Like, hi. Bye.
Victoria Ouellette: I don't know.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, most of time I just don't care.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: I probably would say that too, but but i I agree it's legit sometimes.
Shelley: i Like, it's hard to say that now because, I mean, i only know in my town, like, one family. So... and the chance of me even seeing them is, like, slim. Like, just out and about, really.
Shelley: Just because of different hours and stuff.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, my chance is so low.
Shelley: Yeah, your chances are pretty low, too.
Victoria Ouellette: So will go with.
Victoria Ouellette: Is it petty to say you already have plans when you'd rather just stay home?
Heather: No.
Heather: I don't think so.
Shelley: No, I don't think so either.
Victoria Ouellette: I don't either. i think it's legit or valid.
Shelley: Because I think like you could have plans. You and Wayne legit have plans to watch a movie.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, my plans are to stay home.
Shelley: Yeah. Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: That's what my plans are.
Shelley: yeah
Victoria Ouellette: I did not lie to you. My plans are to stay right here on my computer and play games.
Shelley: But it would be if if you didn't want to go somewhere, but like, yeah, I have plans. I'm going bowling, but you're really staying home. Then maybe that would be petty.
Victoria Ouellette: Well, yeah, I would just be lying.
Shelley: Yeah, that's true. Lying. Yeah. oh
Victoria Ouellette: oh Yeah, that was an easier one.
Shelley: Okay.
Heather: yeah
Shelley: So this one's kind of, I don't know. We do this all the time because we've said so much in chat. Feeling betrayed when someone sends a TikTok you already saw. Like, do you think I'm behind? I think that is not even like, pet we none of us would ever think that way.
Shelley: Because we send TikToks to each other. They'll like, yeah, I've seen that. Oh yeah, I've seen that. you know But there's no pettiness behind it. It's just like, oh yeah, seen that.
Victoria Ouellette: No, I don't think that's petty at all.
Shelley: We're on the same page.
Victoria Ouellette: No. Well, I mean, I mean, there's times where somebody else will send a TikTok that the other person just sent. And like, did you not see my TikTok?
Shelley: Yeah. yeah Yeah, I guess, yeah, that's happened a few times.
Victoria Ouellette: I just sent that. like but
Heather: Me and Aaron do that to each other, actually.
Victoria Ouellette: I
Heather: If I send him a TikTok or some kind of video, Facebook Reels, usually what we listen to or watch, um he'll be like, I literally sent that to you yesterday. didn't you You didn't watch my... You didn't watch anything I sent you?
Victoria Ouellette: guess you didn't click on it, did you?
Heather: Probably not. I was probably busy. My bad.
Victoria Ouellette: Oops, sorry.
Heather: know what I tell you.
Victoria Ouellette: oh That's funny.
Heather: So... Stealing your mug back from the office kitchen. Petty or valid?
Shelley: If it's your mug, valid.
Victoria Ouellette: I think it's valid. They stole it from you. so Why is it in their kitchen? Did you leave it there?
Shelley: So I have like
Heather: I mean, in my opinion, if it's if it's at the office, yeah, I probably left it there.
Victoria Ouellette: ah
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, and if I left it there, I get to take it home.
Heather: i mean, yeah, I think it's valid.
Shelley: I mean, I remember,
Heather: That's why I have an office. I keep my stuff in my office.
Victoria Ouellette: True.
Shelley: i remember this one job I had. We, you know, if you wanted to bring your own coffee cup, that's on you, right? You didn't have to. They had like ones there that you could use. So I had bought one, like, you know, just from the dollar store or whatever, but like it was like a bigger coffee cup.
Shelley: And I had brought it because I worked a lot. And so when I came to work, I was looking for my coffee cup and somebody else was using it.
Shelley: And I was like, I was like, I know.
Victoria Ouellette: That's what happens when you leave in the kitchen, Julie.
Shelley: And I was like, they're using my coffee cup. Like I was being petty about it when it was my fault that I left it in the cupboard.
Heather: I was going to say, they probably didn't know.
Shelley: No, they didn't. No, actually had my initials on the bottom of the cup.
Victoria Ouellette: Your initials, not your name.
Heather: do you pick up a cup and look at the bottom of the cup when you take it out of the cabinet, Shelly?
Shelley: yeah
Victoria Ouellette: Because I sure don't.
Heather: Yeah, I don't.
Shelley: Well, there was a lot of different staff members that had their favorite cups there, I guess. I don't know. A lot of people named their cups. But I don't know. But there's so many there were so many people that you know went through a day, so it wasn't like you knew everybody.
Shelley: But yeah, I was like kind of put out like they were using my cup. But I mean, that's petty on me.
Victoria Ouellette: It's definitely your fault.
Heather: i know for sure I know for sure if I left my cup in the kitchen, it would get used.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: But i always I always wash it and put it back in my office.
Victoria Ouellette: Well, yeah, a hundred percent for me too.
Victoria Ouellette: We have like,
Heather: So maybe that's maybe that's the petty part in me that I just keep my own cup in my office. I don't know.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah, maybe. No, i yeah don I don't know. I think it's legit. Yeah. We have cabinets full of coffee cups at work that people just go and grab. So if I were to leave mine in the kitchen, a hundred percent, somebody else would use it.
Heather: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: So yeah, definitely. That's on Shelly.
Heather: That's funny.
Shelley: ah Yeah, it's on me 100%. Okay, so I don't think this really pertains to us, but I don't know. So if your friend invites their new to Girls' Night without asking or warning, are we allowed to be mad?
Shelley: Valid feelings or jealous energy? Like just Girls' Night. No husbands, no girlfriends.
Victoria Ouellette: No, that's a valid.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: It's girls night and you're bringing somebody with you.
Shelley: Your boyfriend or partner.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: New partner. New. We don't even know this person.
Victoria Ouellette: I was going to say the fact that they're new, you know.
Heather: Well, think the fact that they didn't ask, yeah, it would be valid.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, that they're new.
Heather: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: We don't know them and. You're just bringing them without even saying anything to something we normally do just us. I mean, to be honest, it could be male or female. I would feel the same way.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, at least tell me.
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Give me a heads up.
Shelley: Like.
Victoria Ouellette: They're brand new. I don't know them. They don't know me. If you want to plan a meeting, we can do that. But don't bring them to girls night or whatever it is. A just us situation that was planned.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Not without at least saying. Like, I probably wouldn't even say no if you asked, but like.
Heather: I was going to say that if you at least asked, then it probably wouldn't have been a big deal, but you don't ask, then that's a problem.
Victoria Ouellette: Right.
Victoria Ouellette: Then I might be upset. Yeah. So legit, that is legit or valid, whatever we're calling it.
Shelley: like
Victoria Ouellette: feel like it's kind of in between.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: So I picked this one because i never even thought of it as being a big deal, but I seen it.
Heather: ah gosh
Victoria Ouellette: I seen it and I was like, wait, really? Do people think that's petty? um So should you ever order the same dish as your friend at a restaurant?
Heather: I don't um i'll see the problem.
Shelley: Yeah, I don't see the problem. If that's what you like.
Victoria Ouellette: I don't either. Like, why wouldn't...
Shelley: Okay, perfect example. we were at, I think it was one of your kids' birthday, Heather. Chili's. Remember that?
Heather: yeah
Shelley: Like, a couple months ago or whatever? How many of us ordered the Honey Chipotle chicken tenders?
Heather: It was a lot of us.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Heather: And that's what i that's what I get every single time I go there.
Shelley: There was like six of us.
Heather: So if somebody wants to be petty about it, then I don't know what to tell you.
Shelley: Same, that's all I did. That's what I get every time I order from Chili's.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah Then that's on you.
Shelley: Chili's has the best honey chicken.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. When I read it, i was like, wait, is that a thing?
Shelley: Right.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, do people not want you to order the same thing as them? Like, I don't care if that's what you were like. You're paying for it, not me. i mean, even if I am paying for it, I guess.
Heather: right
Victoria Ouellette: Get what you're going to eat. I want you to eat what you what I'm paying for.
Heather: I was gonna say, i legit always tell my kids, I don't care as long as you're eating it, as long as you're gonna eat it.
Victoria Ouellette: Right.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: Right.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. So I don't know. I picked that one because it's kind of weird. Like, I just, I guess I never thought about it, but I think, I guess I could see people maybe caring. I don't know.
Victoria Ouellette: ah just thought it was funny.
Heather: Okay. um let's see um leaving a friend group chat after a minor disagreement petty or valid
Shelley: ah
Victoria Ouellette: Petty.
Shelley: Penny. 100% Penny.
Victoria Ouellette: So petty.
Heather: yeah i agree i think it's petty
Shelley: Like the chance of you getting invited back to that chat is going to be zilch probably. or a new chat is going to be made because you damn well you damn well know that as soon as you left whoever's in that chat with you they're talking about you you're not getting invited back so that's petty and you should not be petty about that just mute the conversation and like there is yeah
Victoria Ouellette: If you're willing to leave that easy, like they talked about you.
Heather: There is a lot of petty people like that, though. i mean...
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. Oh, yeah. hundred percent 100%. That's funny, though. Wow.
Shelley: I don't know if I've ever left it like that. like Maybe a long time ago, like three years ago, left a group chat.
Heather: long time ago is three years.
Shelley: But like, yeah, Wi-Fi was longer than that.
Heather: so ha ha ha ha.
Victoria Ouellette: Wow.
Shelley: But ah to be fair, there was a group chat of four people and three out of the four people left. so but
Victoria Ouellette: wow
Heather: turn
Shelley: I took back my like after realizing they didn't like my post first. What? Petty? or valid?
Victoria Ouellette: Petty.
Heather: Petty, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Definitely petty.
Shelley: I guess petty on the Facebook.
Victoria Ouellette: Maybe they didn't see yet.
Shelley: What?
Shelley: Oh, you know they've seen it.
Victoria Ouellette: Maybe they're busy.
Shelley: Do you know how many times I've posted on Facebook? I don't post that much on Facebook. And one person likes my post way, like, hours, even maybe the next day later.
Shelley: and that one person is sitting in this room right now.
Heather: like
Shelley: Not sitting in this room, sorry. In this group right here.
Victoria Ouellette: wow I was going to say, I will have you know that there's tons of times where I will see stuff at work, like while I'm scrolling, and then I'll get a phone call or somebody will walk in and I'll have to like set my phone down real quick.
Shelley: No, but
Heather: to just
Shelley: I know.
Victoria Ouellette: And then sometimes once you see a post on Facebook and you refresh, it's completely gone.
Shelley: It goes away.
Victoria Ouellette: So that happens to me all the time.
Shelley: I know. I'm just giving you crap.
Shelley: I'm like, dude, what um like two why why didn't you like my post?
Victoria Ouellette: So I guess that's why I it was defending the other person that didn't like
Heather: you
Shelley: Do you like everybody else? But mine. Okay. Um, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: I guess you're posting at the wrong time, Shelley.
Shelley: I guess so.
Heather: you need to wait until we're home and not at work.
Shelley: I guess so.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: Yep.
Victoria Ouellette: And then post. Or like post it when we're on our way home.
Shelley: Now you're going to have all these...
Victoria Ouellette: You know?
Shelley: Yep. I'm going to start doing that, and you're going all these posts from me now at that time.
Victoria Ouellette: And we'll like every single one of them, you know?
Heather: You'll notice such a big difference, Shelly.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. You'll get two likes.
Shelley: Yes!
Victoria Ouellette: Um, okay. So am going to go with,
Victoria Ouellette: is it petty or legit to feel irritated when someone doesn't hold the door open for you, especially if you're right behind them?
Shelley: If it slaps in my face, I'm irritated.
Heather: I think that's petty, but I think that's only, i feel like that's a me feeling because i don't expect, like it's nice, but I don't expect people to hold the door open for me. But it is nice when they do it, but i don't know.
Shelley: i I don't know. Like, I've never, I've never came across that where I was right behind somebody and they didn't hold the door. Unless it was somebody I know, they purposely didn't hold the door and I'm like, oh, thanks for not holding the door or whatever.
Shelley: But don't think I've ever had, like, a stranger. But mind you, though, Tony always grabs, like, when I'm with Tony, he always grabs the door first and opens it so I can go through.
Heather: I for sure have.
Victoria Ouellette: i
Shelley: So, I don't know. but I'm lucky, I guess.
Victoria Ouellette: I agree that I think it's petty.
Shelley: always have him with me.
Victoria Ouellette: um And I think this is actually something I experience every single day, like almost every single day, at least in my work building.
Shelley: Oh, that sucks.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, I don't care. I really don't care. Like, I also think it's we have a door that you can go up and wave your hand in front of it and it opens the door for you. So like. Like, I don't care.
Victoria Ouellette: But there's people that'll do that. Like it's more so leaving for the day because I have like my work bag, like my wheelie work bag thing. And I'll have like my drink in my hand and my lunchbox. I'll have a handful of stuff and you'll see people just go out in front of me and then just not even hold the door like with me right behind them.
Shelley: That's, yeah, that's not cool.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, thanks guys. I'm, you know, you can see I got everything in my hands, but that's not their problem. That's, that's my problem. So no, I do think would be right.
Heather: They're ready to go home.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. So, I mean, yeah.
Shelley: I just think it's the more polite thing to do is to hold the door open.
Victoria Ouellette: I agree. But I also and maybe this is like my anxiety. Like if people if someone holds the door for me and I'm just like a couple steps further away, i feel so bad. Like, don't wait on me. I'll get my own door.
Shelley: Yeah, I guess, because that's true, because then they're then you're like, you're running.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. Now that. Yeah. Rushing like, thank you for doing something so nice as holding the door for me. But now I have anxiety over it. Thanks.
Shelley: know
Victoria Ouellette: You know, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: And it's kind of the same for the elevator because I have to get on the elevator to go, up you know, to the sixth floor at work. And, um, but there's also like, people can sometimes go straight. So a lot of people don't tend to hold the elevator for people. Cause you just don't know where they're going.
Victoria Ouellette: Um, like you could hold the elevator and they're like, not even getting on it, you know? So, so, so yeah, I think that happens a lot too, where the elevator is like shut in your face, but yeah.
Heather: Yeah, that's true.
Victoria Ouellette: And I feel like it could be the same thing. i don't find it petty. I think it's if you didn't know and you're just trying to get to work, man. So.
Shelley: I tried, like, with the elevator thing. Yeah. There's been times... I can't hold the door! I'm sorry! That
Victoria Ouellette: But I do feel bad, like when I do it, like on accident, because I'll try to hold the door, like for the elevator at least.
Shelley: that
Victoria Ouellette: But and I'll think they're going straight or I didn't see them because I'm just really not paying attention. I feel so bad, even though I shouldn't like. So it's kind of funny. Definitely petty, though. I don't think you should feel entitled to that. Do I think it's the nice thing to do? Yeah, for sure. You should hold the door for people. You should be nice, be kind to the world. But.
Heather: help them out if they need it yeah but it's no yeah definitely not uh is it my turn i feel like we switched orders somehow we did right
Victoria Ouellette: Right. But is it your responsibility? No, definitely not.
Victoria Ouellette: So. if
Shelley: I don't know. You go. And then I'll go after you.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, you go. No, we've been going in the same order. I do think at one point we switched, but it's all right.
Heather: and Well, I only say that because I remember saying, okay, Shelley, you go next. So, and then now we're in a different order. Anyways, anyways. My next one will be ah refusing to let someone merge in traffic because they sped past you earlier. Petty or valid?
Victoria Ouellette: Definitely petty, but I'm doing it.
Shelley: Betty. Betty. Well, I just started driving again, so i'm going to be as nice as possible on the road.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah
Heather: No, I'm definitely doing it.
Victoria Ouellette: It depends. Like, were they? I don't. Yeah, I'm most likely doing it. But I do try to remember to, like, be kind to people but sometimes.
Heather: So i drive a really busy road every day.
Victoria Ouellette: Like.
Heather: and I mean, I know you do too, sis, but um um i I have to remind myself on that road not to be that way. but So a lot of the times, and especially lately, I'll be like, oh, well, just whatever.
Heather: If you want to go past me, go past me. But just don't go past me and then get in front of me and go slow. Like that, that drives me crazy.
Shelley: Oh, yes.
Heather: Like if you literally just flew by me and then now you're slowing me down, like what is your problem?
Victoria Ouellette: Right.
Heather: That's when, that's when I start being petty.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, I agree.
Shelley: So...
Victoria Ouellette: But I have a a sticker on my car on the back of my car that says, I hope something good happens to you today. And so I feel like sometimes I'll remember that bumper sticker is on my car.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, like, no, I should live by that and not live.
Heather: Yeah. Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: not
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Do mean things through the in traffic. But it's hard because I will say like I, you know, I live in Orlando, so i drive crazy busy roads home in rush hour every day.
Victoria Ouellette: And sometimes I have no choice. Like these guys are not smart driver.
Shelley: yeah
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. Like, I'll be trying to, like, get off a turning lane that I've been sitting in for 20 minutes, not even exaggerating, maybe even longer. And people will go all the way around people and try to cut in front of me.
Victoria Ouellette: ah No, I'm sorry. I've been waiting here for 20 minutes. I'm also trying to get home and I've been nice to three people already. I have to cut my niceness off at some point and and get home.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Heather: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Shelley: Tony has a sticker on the back of our card. It says US Air Force veteran. So we always think that people pass him on purpose because they think he's like a 90 year old guy or something.
Heather: was going to say a really old guy.
Shelley: but So it's funny. It's funny, funny.
Victoria Ouellette: Well, people do that because I drive a van. So I always think the same thing.
Shelley: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Oh, they're like, oh, behind a van. They're not going anywhere fast.
Shelley: Like, have you driven with her before?
Victoria Ouellette: yeah
Shelley: Because I have.
Victoria Ouellette: My van can move it pretty fast. Thank you very much.
Shelley: but Yeah.
Heather: Yeah, know I don't get those feelings, like those vibes from anybody because i drive an SUV, so.
Shelley: who is guilty of this one? Alright, be honest here. We're not judging. Maybe a little bit, but okay.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, we are. Okay.
Shelley: I'm not saying this myself, but I purposely didn't open their text so they wouldn't think I'm too available.
Heather: Yeah.
Shelley: Petty or a strategic mystery? So have you ever left anybody unread?
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, yeah, all the time.
Heather: yeah
Shelley: Wow, that was very easy for you to say.
Heather: Shelly's face
Heather: sure Shelly Shelly kind of looked like it was shocked like she was shocked that we just openly admitted that so since you guys can't see her face
Shelley: don't think I've ever...
Victoria Ouellette: We're not a but not ashamed.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah
Shelley: um I gotta say that I've maybe done that few times, but eventually answered them. Eventually.
Victoria Ouellette: I mean, I'm not saying I didn't eventually answer them.
Shelley: I could have been upset.
Victoria Ouellette: It might have been 24 to 48 hours later.
Shelley: I could have been upset.
Victoria Ouellette: and
Shelley: I could have been upset with that person and didn't want to talk to them at that time. Or i just didn't want to talk to anybody. So yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, and that's okay. That's a legit feeling.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: don't really think it's, it really depends. on I mean, i I know we've said this a lot. It really depends on the reason behind it. It could be petty. But I think a lot of times it might be you're busy or for your own mental health, or like you said, you didn't want to talk to anybody.
Shelley: I think
Victoria Ouellette: And that would make it legit or valid for me because, you know, your mental health matters. Your what you need matters. So.
Shelley: I honestly think the worst, not the worst feeling, but like kind of a bad feeling sometimes is when you message somebody. And I know everybody's busy, so I'm not like giving crap about it or anything like that.
Shelley: But sometimes I get in my head a little bit if I message somebody and they read it and they don't respond to me until the next day. And it was like legit...
Victoria Ouellette: I would never have known that, Shelly. I would have never known that.
Shelley: It was like a legit question or a little legit, you know, like messaging somebody saying, well,
Victoria Ouellette: Shelly will message me at like 11 o'clock, 12 o'clock, maybe one and go, hey, how's your day going? I'll read it because I'm at work. And then I'll get busy and pulled away real quick.
Victoria Ouellette: Or I can read it even while I'm on the phone at work and then not answer her.
Shelley: wait, to did you, did you answer me today?
Victoria Ouellette: I'll get a message an hour later.
Shelley: did you and message answer me today?
Victoria Ouellette: I don't know.
Heather: Did you leave Shelley on red today?
Victoria Ouellette: Let's see.
Shelley: I sent her a really nice text today and I said, i said,
Victoria Ouellette: think I think I left her on red. Hold on. i Yeah, I did.
Shelley: I said, i said, has anybody told you that you're awesome today?
Victoria Ouellette: like left her on red today.
Shelley: Well, I did. And she never responded. I'm like, yeah.
Heather: wow
Victoria Ouellette: Yep. At 5.50 p.m.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: She said, I hope you have a good day. Love you. Has anyone told you today that you're awesome? Well, I just did. And I've never responded. Not even yet.
Shelley: Not even. Not even yet.
Heather: It is almost, it's almost too late.
Victoria Ouellette: Not even yet.
Shelley: Midnight.
Heather: Yeah, it's almost too late.
Shelley: It's almost the next day.
Victoria Ouellette: Well, I have, don't I have 24 hours?
Shelley: no i I get it.
Victoria Ouellette: Like, isn't that?
Shelley: You do. You do.
Victoria Ouellette: Okay, good.
Shelley: I get it. When it comes to like ah so you know because we've been friends for so long, you get a Okay.
Victoria Ouellette: I'm going to pass guys.
Shelley: but
Heather: You get a pass.
Victoria Ouellette: But I will just it's only when you message me when I'm at work. like Today was like the worst. It was like one fire after another. There was like three fires at once today, actually.
Victoria Ouellette: like It was...
Shelley: guys
Heather: Not legit fires, by the way.
Shelley: I got so i think what I yeah she's not a firefighter guys uh so I think I'm what I'm getting what I'm getting out of this episode today is that I need to stop texting you during work hours and wait till you get home but don't expect yeah you
Heather: Just IT fires.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, no. No. No.
Heather: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah no
Heather: Just wanted to clarify it.
Victoria Ouellette: mean, you can text me at work. Just don't expect an answer back. Yeah. Unless I'm like talking in other chats and you see it, then that does happen.
Shelley: I mean, that happens.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. I.
Shelley: That does happen.
Victoria Ouellette: yeah
Heather: That's happened to me before too.
Victoria Ouellette: i
Heather: I'll be like, why isn't she answering me? She she just answered in this other chat.
Shelley: We have so many group chats and it's like, I mean, she's answered these three chats, but she can't answer my personal chat. Like, what the hell?
Victoria Ouellette: like there's a good chance like i'm just going through the list like if on days like that that it happens pay attention because i guarantee you'll see me answer one and then the next and then the next so it really depends on where you fall in line out of your text message compared to everybody else okay yeah exactly
Shelley: Yeah, i noticed that that day.
Shelley: Wow.
Heather: Just keep messaging and you'll be at the top, Shelly.
Shelley: Yeah,
Heather: So that's what you get from that.
Shelley: yeah like keep messaging.
Heather: Just keep messaging and you'll be at the top.
Shelley: Okay. Got it.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. Well, I don't, sometimes I go from the bottom up. So I you'll never know.
Heather: Oh, well, no, you'll never, you'll never know.
Shelley: so Oh, shit.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: Well. Wow.
Victoria Ouellette: You messaged more than once and now you're done.
Shelley: but
Victoria Ouellette: I may get, I may be too busy, but I reach the top to answer it. If a phone call happens at work and I only answered two chats, well, we start over in an hour.
Shelley: wow
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: So she answers you during the day, guys. <unk>ts Congratulations.
Heather: Oh my god.
Victoria Ouellette: Oh my gosh. Okay. I'm going to do mine.
Heather: We gonna do one more round or?
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, let's do so. Yeah, let's make this lash round, right?
Shelley: Yes, because I have one more I want to do.
Victoria Ouellette: You have one more. Okay, perfect. That works out. um Is it petty or legit to expect someone to replace something they borrowed and broke?
Shelley: to replace what
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Heather: is it petty to expect somebody to replace it?
Victoria Ouellette: Is it petty? to If they borrowed it and broke it.
Shelley: did they break it on purpose they broke it i think it's valid that they should replace it if it was expensive important to you
Heather: I don't think I don't think it's petty, but it depends on what it is. Like, if it's something real expensive and, like, you knew how important it was to me, like, something that I can't just
Shelley: um
Victoria Ouellette: definitely think it's it's valid.
Heather: If it was it was like a $5 cup or something, then no yeah You're just being buddies.
Victoria Ouellette: Right.
Heather: Stop.
Victoria Ouellette: But I also think that I don't know that I'd let somebody borrow something if it really meant that much to me.
Heather: but Yeah.
Shelley: That's true.
Victoria Ouellette: But I think the other person should, if you're a good person, you would want to replace it.
Shelley: No.
Victoria Ouellette: You know what i mean? For your friend, like you borrowed it.
Shelley: Yes.
Victoria Ouellette: So I don't think it's petty. I think it's valid, legit.
Heather: Yeah, I agree.
Shelley: I don't know if I've ever borrowed anything and broke something that I can think of.
Heather: I can't think of anything I've ever done.
Shelley: I can't think of anything. And if I did, 100% replaced it
Victoria Ouellette: Me either, but yeah, for sure.
Shelley: I thought for sure my snowman boa was going to be gone forever. Just kidding. Just kidding. I got it at the dollar store.
Victoria Ouellette: My kids used that for cereal while we had it.
Shelley: You should have kept
Victoria Ouellette: They used it for soup. like
Shelley: I should have just let you have it. And then I would the other one. And I was like, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Oh, look, best friend bowls
Heather: Well, when you come over for Christmas, you just need to bring her some, Shelley. You need to go to the dollar store and get her some.
Shelley: i'm going to um I'm going to bring a bunch of those bowls for everybody.
Heather: bowl for you, bowl for you, bowl for you.
Shelley: And we'll all have, well, the three of us, we'll have one.
Victoria Ouellette: Hand them out.
Shelley: Yep. We'll each have one. And we'll put the 28th Angle.
Victoria Ouellette: Best friend bowls.
Shelley: goal Put the 28th Angle podcast on there.
Heather: See, when we record, we can eat something out of them.
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: I don't know what, but don't know about I don't know about recording and eating at the same time, but you know.
Victoria Ouellette: but What are we eating?
Shelley: Maybe a hot dog Taco
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah. ASMR. ASMR.
Shelley: ah
Victoria Ouellette: Sounds like a bad idea. Yeah. yeah
Shelley: and asmr
Victoria Ouellette: Just here crunching.
Victoria Ouellette: the
Heather: Okay, my turn, guess.
Victoria Ouellette: Yep.
Shelley: yes
Victoria Ouellette: Your last one.
Heather: Let's see, I will choose keeping score of who texts first, petty or valid.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah, Shelly, petty or valid?
Victoria Ouellette: Let's hear it, Shelly.
Shelley: I'm ah bad for this because if I keep texting you and texting you and you don't answer then I'm going to wait a while and then wait for you to text me first so it could be eight months until we talk again
Victoria Ouellette: Let's hear it.
Shelley: I'm not saying you, but like, it's happened.
Victoria Ouellette: So is it petty?
Shelley: I think it's petty.
Victoria Ouellette: Are you being petty?
Shelley: I'm being very petty.
Victoria Ouellette: ah
Shelley: But it hasn't happened in a long time. A long time, Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: I can agree that it's petty, but it really, and I know this, we keep saying it, it really depends on the situation. Like, like a friendship or a relationship on any level should be two ways.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: So like, if you're always counting, oh, I always text you first. Well, personalities matter too, you know? So it's a little petty just to do it as long as the other side gives back in their own way.
Victoria Ouellette: Then yeah, you're being petty, but.
Heather: So I feel like it's only, i don't want to say it's only valid, obviously,
Shelley: Okay.
Heather: feel how you want to feel but I think that it would be valid to me like from my standpoint at the beginning of any kind of relationship a friendship uh you know romantic relationship any of that I think it's valid for you to figure out who's texting who first like keeping i don't want to say keeping score even though that's what it says but like if you're constantly just texting the other person and it's in a new relationship then then maybe you should think of
Shelley: Yeah. Yeah, the person that you're...
Heather: Like, are they too busy for you? Do they not want to talk to you?
Shelley: Yeah.
Heather: What's going on?
Victoria Ouellette: Do they not even think about you to even message you?
Heather: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Do they not want to talk to me?
Heather: Something.
Victoria Ouellette: i can agree with that. If it was a brand new relationship on any level, friendship, you know, relationship, any kind of friendship um or relationship. I mean, yeah, I mean, I could agree that I agree that it would be valid only in the new.
Heather: And the new era of it, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: ah Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Anything past that is a little valid.
Heather: is petty.
Victoria Ouellette: I it's little petty. Yeah.
Heather: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Victoria Ouellette: So.
Heather: Okay, shall we?
Shelley: There's some really funny ones out there in the world. So a i judge I judged someone because their phone battery was always at 1%.
Shelley: Like, what are you running from? Petty or valid?
Heather: Sounds familiar. Whose phone's always at 1%?
Shelley: Not mine. Mine's always at 100%. phone's at 1%? whose phone said ah one percent
Victoria Ouellette: she'll know when she hears this.
Heather: Mom's.
Heather: My mom.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah. Yeah. Our mom's always dead or dying.
Heather: Her phone's always dead.
Shelley: Oh, her phone's always dead.
Heather: so what is it? Is it petty that we're judging her for? it Is that what it is?
Shelley: It says petty or survival instinct. That's what it said. Yeah, is it petty because you judge her for having her phone battery at 1%?
Heather: I don't know how to answer it.
Shelley: Or is she like...
Victoria Ouellette: I think it's probably a little petty. Yeah. Cause what does it matter to us? I
Shelley: It's not really like... We're not like really like judging her. It's just we're poking fun at her.
Victoria Ouellette: but pick at her. Yeah.
Shelley: Yeah. It's like it's your phone. I mean, if you're going to need it it's only 1%, what are you going to I got my phone. My phone's at 100%. And I have a solar power battery charger too, so
Victoria Ouellette: Well, I mean, I don't know. It's a little legit. Like for, especially ah like her, for example, um I don't really want to say the big reason, but like, it's mostly so we can check on her, like make sure she's good, make sure she's okay.
Shelley: yeah You guys...
Victoria Ouellette: Like, and so when her phone's dead, we can't do that.
Heather: Yeah, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: That makes us worry. um So I do think it's kind of valid.
Shelley: She needs to have like ah one of the those magnetic... ah mate What are they called? Magsave?
Heather: The mag save?
Shelley: For iPhone? Yeah.
Heather: She probably has one, doesn't she, or no?
Shelley: she
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: She needs one at her desk.
Victoria Ouellette: and style
Heather: She needs one everywhere she sits.
Shelley: Everywhere she sits.
Victoria Ouellette: she
Shelley: Okay.
Victoria Ouellette: that would still mean that she has to put it there yeah
Heather: No, the ah problem is, i was going to say, the problem is she sits her phone down and walks away from everywhere.
Shelley: um Yeah, that's true.
Heather: She always says that she never has it.
Shelley: always heard i always hear that. Like, oh, I gotta go get my phone. Like, my phone... Like, Tony would say my phone's glued to my hand. That's what he would tell me.
Victoria Ouellette: I often set mine down forget but i I will remember pretty quickly that I need to go get it oh true
Heather: I often ah have to set mine down and forget, but i have I usually always have my watch on.
Shelley: Like...
Heather: So if it goes off and I see something like important pop up, I'd be like, oh and let me go find my phone.
Shelley: Yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Let me go answer.
Shelley: I stopped wearing my watch after two days.
Victoria Ouellette: Yeah.
Shelley: I just had my watch on, and then I...
Victoria Ouellette: Two days.
Shelley: um Well, I mean, I had it on for a long time and then I just recently, because I got a new phone, so I just recently paired it with my new phone and I had it on for two days and I was like, it's annoying me, so yeah.
Heather: Wow.
Victoria Ouellette: ah really, really want to watch, but I haven't got one yet. So maybe one day.
Shelley: Just get a renewed one from Amazon. That's what did.
Heather: want a new watch, a newer watch.
Shelley: I want a new one. I want a new one. um
Victoria Ouellette: Maybe one day.
Shelley: But yeah, one day.
Heather: yeah
Shelley: Oh, what I was going to say about the phone thing was I actually panic just a little bit. If I go to bed and my phone's at like 20% because I'm like, I do my crosswords ah every night on my phone.
Victoria Ouellette: Shall learn her crosswords.
Heather: which
Shelley: I have to do crossword puzzle before I go to bed every night. And if my phone dies, yeah.
Victoria Ouellette: Wait, I want to read this one because it's funny. The one in Discord. I don't think you guys read it.
Heather: one oh I've seen that yeah
Victoria Ouellette: Pretending to forget someone's name because they annoyed you once. Patty or Valid? What? That's definitely Patty.
Shelley: It
Victoria Ouellette: No questions asked. All right. Well, so that is going to be it for this episode, guys. I hope you enjoyed it. We had some fun answering questions.
Victoria Ouellette: um It's all in good fun. no no harm, meant real judgment here.
Shelley: We all love each other.
Victoria Ouellette: Live your best life. ah You do you. um i feel like we're all petty at least a little bit at some point. So and that's OK.
Heather: For sure, but without a doubt.
Victoria Ouellette: So we will see you guys next week.
Heather: Thanks for listening.
Shelley: Thank you all.
Heather: Bye.
Shelley: Thanks for having us. Bye.
Victoria Ouellette: Thanks for hanging out. We'll see you next week.
Heather: bye
Shelley: bye
