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First Impressions and Who we are

The 28th Angle Podcast
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First impressions matter—so what does yours say about you? In our very first episode of The 28th Angle Podcast, we introduce ourselves, share our thoughts on first impressions. Get to know the voices behind the mic as we kick off this journey with real talk, laughs, and a few unexpected takes. Press play and let’s get into it!

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First Episode Excitement

00:00:01
Victoria Ouellette
Hi
00:00:28
Shelley
Yeah, guys.
00:00:28
Victoria Ouellette
guys
00:00:30
Heather
Hey
00:00:30
Victoria Ouellette
We're finally recording.
00:00:30
Shelley
Our first first episode.
00:00:33
Shelley
Can you believe it?
00:00:35
Victoria Ouellette
Nope, it's crazy. We've done a lot of planning, so yeah.
00:00:37
Shelley
long time.

Introductions: Victoria, Heather, and Shelly

00:00:39
Victoria Ouellette
I think since it's going to be everybody's first impression of us, let's um do an introduction and we'll get into some first impressions,
00:00:47
Shelley
Sounds good to me.
00:00:50
Victoria Ouellette
All right, I'll start. um So as you know now, my name is Victoria. I've been married to a man for almost 15 years now. ah We have three kids together.
00:00:58
Shelley
Dang
00:01:00
Victoria Ouellette
Three, so two, two kids together. but Three that live here.
00:01:06
Victoria Ouellette
oh I don't know.
00:01:06
Heather
You got one of mine. It's fine.
00:01:07
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, I got an extra somewhere. They just find me, I guess.
00:01:14
Victoria Ouellette
um I was a stay-at-home mom. um Up until two years ago where i've I spent most of my time in school. Now I work in IT My husband's also in IT and I've been to school for a lot of different things.
00:01:28
Shelley
who
00:01:28
Victoria Ouellette
Dental assisting and massage therapy. I guess I like school. Yeah. um heather here is my identical twin sister um i'm seven minutes older so she's been like a best a built-in best friend for my entire life and then shelly is also my best friend and we will get more into how we met later so my current obsessions right now are pokemon cards i love gmm and like three d printing crafting and gaming so good mythical morning
00:01:59
Shelley
So what's GMM? That's
00:02:04
Heather
She even said it like they do.
00:02:04
Shelley
cool.
00:02:07
Victoria Ouellette
Always. right, Heather, you want start your introduction?
00:02:11
Heather
Sure like she said, I'm Heather. I am 37 years old. I don't remember if you said your age, but obviously you we're identical.
00:02:17
Victoria Ouellette
i I didn't know.
00:02:18
Shelley
Wow.
00:02:19
Heather
So I gave her age way too. So
00:02:23
Victoria Ouellette
Wow.
00:02:24
Heather
um I am a mother of three, a stepmom of four. i don't usually call them my stepkids, but just for introduction reasons, I did.
00:02:35
Heather
um So, yes, that is a total of seven kids.
00:02:46
Heather
Anyways, that's our theme song. um
00:02:50
Victoria Ouellette
perfect fit.
00:02:50
Heather
I had my first one. Yeah, that's the first thing everybody says. Oh, like the Brady Bunch. So anyways, um I had my first one when I was 16. sixteen So I became a mom very young. I also became a widow at the age of 31, which I also find very young for that.
00:03:07
Heather
um i enjoy being crafty you playing video games and for the most part we try to find fun things to do with the kids on saturdays to get them off their electronics and spend time as a family but that's me it
00:03:22
Victoria Ouellette
devices. With all your teenagers and their devices.
00:03:24
Shelley
Right.
00:03:25
Heather
yeah yep yep yep
00:03:27
Shelley
to
00:03:30
Shelley
Okay. Well, I'm Shelly and I'm married for actually guys ah next month will be 10 years. 10 years married.
00:03:40
Victoria Ouellette
Ten years.
00:03:40
Shelley
16 years with the same man.
00:03:42
Heather
Nice. right
00:03:43
Shelley
um I have two stepdaughters and two grandsons. One's almost 10 and one is almost 8. eight I just can't believe that.
00:03:52
Victoria Ouellette
We're sure into it.
00:03:53
Shelley
I enjoy gaming with everybody and crafting and hanging out with family and friends. um I have my Florida family, these guys.
00:04:04
Shelley
And I recently actually started three d printing because of these guys. and love it.
00:04:12
Victoria Ouellette
Pushed into it
00:04:12
Shelley
It's so fun. um So my husband is also, he works IT, but he works from home. So he's always home. um I used to be always here.
00:04:21
Victoria Ouellette
always there.
00:04:24
Shelley
Yeah. I used to work in a nursing facility, nursing home facility as a certified nursing assistant when, oh, I'm Canadian, by the way. um So I used to work in the nursing home as a certified medical, uh, sorry, certified nursing assistant for, believe, eight years.
00:04:44
Shelley
Um, it was, it was a very great job. I really liked it and I miss it from time to time. Um, but we call Florida home now and yeah, that's, that's me.
00:04:59
Victoria Ouellette
one One gives my age away.
00:04:59
Shelley
And,
00:05:00
Victoria Ouellette
One gives where I i live away.
00:05:03
Shelley
oh,
00:05:04
Victoria Ouellette
No, I'm just kidding. So yeah, we obviously all live in Florida.
00:05:08
Shelley
Well, oops. but

First Impressions and Meeting Stories

00:05:13
Shelley
Yes, that's me.
00:05:13
Victoria Ouellette
I knew you were going to say it.
00:05:18
Victoria Ouellette
Yep, that's us. So um i don't know if you guys ever have any questions or want to know more. Let us know. I'm sure you'll get to hear lots of different views and angles from the podcast as we talk about things.
00:05:32
Victoria Ouellette
We're all pretty open, so I would anticipate some random stories here and there.
00:05:37
Shelley
Mm-hmm. For sure.
00:05:38
Victoria Ouellette
Right? Yeah.
00:05:40
Heather
ye
00:05:40
Victoria Ouellette
But we thought for a first episode, i think first impressions would be a fun thing to talk about. so
00:05:48
Shelley
I think so. I want to hear Heather's first impression. First, first, first impression.
00:05:51
Victoria Ouellette
yeah yeah let's it's not the point of a podcast right
00:05:54
Heather
Shelly can't talk. It's fine.
00:05:55
Shelley
Let's go. I can't talk tonight.
00:06:00
Victoria Ouellette
ah
00:06:02
Heather
So, um, I obviously can't do a first impression with my sister because she's been with me, you know, my entire life. And Shelly, don't, they met when we were out of state, they lived in a different state.
00:06:16
Heather
So I don't know. I feel like me and Shelly didn't really have like a first impression type story.
00:06:20
Shelley
No, I don't think we did.
00:06:20
Victoria Ouellette
true first impression.
00:06:21
Heather
So yeah. So I went with um my partner, my other half, um and how we met. And I think mainly we picked that because of everything I've been in life and us having seven kids and, you know, how everything works.
00:06:36
Heather
People people will get curious, I guess is a good word for it.
00:06:40
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:06:40
Shelley
Yeah, for real.
00:06:42
Victoria Ouellette
Two people with seven kids came together.
00:06:42
Heather
So anyways, we have been yeah we have been together since October of 2019. um we We joined on Facebook Dating and um
00:06:59
Heather
think we were both on there not really looking for anything. like I guess we didn't know what we were looking for because he didn't even finish his profile. So, yeah.
00:07:08
Victoria Ouellette
it's just half started oh wow he cared a lot
00:07:08
Shelley
Oh, really?
00:07:10
Heather
He didn't even finish his profile picture, his profile dating page thing.
00:07:12
Shelley
Wow.
00:07:15
Heather
He never even finished it. So, um yeah, I know.
00:07:17
Shelley
Sucker.
00:07:22
Heather
Well, I don't think he expected to find anything, be honest.
00:07:24
Victoria Ouellette
and
00:07:27
Victoria Ouellette
sucks for him i'm kidding
00:07:28
Heather
So, yeah. I am pretty sure that he swiped on me first and i liked me or whatever it's called on Facebook dating. I don't remember now. It's been too long. um And then he waited until the next morning to message me because he didn't want to seem like, you know, he was, I don't know, desperate. I don't know.
00:07:47
Heather
on the word for it um and so then we I mean ever since then we started talking so we had our first date and um we both I said from the very get-go that I would not be with anybody that didn't at least at the very least understand video games because in my prior marriage I
00:08:06
Victoria Ouellette
that.
00:08:06
Shelley
Yeah, for real.
00:08:11
Heather
Technically, i mean, I don't want to say wasn't allowed to play video games, but it was it was very hard to play video games because he just did not understand the concept of a video game.
00:08:19
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:08:20
Heather
So... um I always said that in my next relationship, if they didn't play video games, they it it was an instant no. Sorry.
00:08:31
Heather
So in his profile pictures, he had a Horde shirt on, which is from World of Warcraft for anybody that doesn't know, I guess, what Horde is. Or World of Warcraft is a video game, PC video game, for anybody that doesn't know what that is.
00:08:44
Shelley
Thank you.
00:08:45
Heather
And me and my family have played that since Vanilla, since the very beginning.
00:08:50
Victoria Ouellette
release yeah
00:08:51
Heather
Yeah, since, so that's, it's been a literal huge part of our life, like all of us. And so um because he had that shirt on in almost all of his pictures, i was like, okay, cool. out I'll give him a shot.
00:09:04
Heather
He at least knows, he at least understands the concept of video games and I assume plays well. So it was, you know, a really good connection for us to have.
00:09:12
Victoria Ouellette
be weird if it didn't play well
00:09:14
Shelley
Yeah, just he's like, oh, I found this shirt at the thrift store.
00:09:16
Heather
Yeah. Right. Oh my god. can I couldn't imagine. If that's how it really went down anyways.
00:09:22
Shelley
Right?
00:09:22
Victoria Ouellette
ah good thing it was horde not alliance
00:09:25
Heather
Yeah.

Heather's Partner and Moving in together

00:09:25
Shelley
Oh, well, she wouldn't have she wouldn' have clicked on him for the Alliance.
00:09:25
Heather
For real.
00:09:25
Victoria Ouellette
it's been a long i'm gonna goner
00:09:30
Heather
Anyways, that was actually that was September, like the end of September 2019. So um our kids first met at the beginning of October. we both agreed that if our kids didn't like not only each other, but our other, you know, our each our own kids, then it really wasn't going to work. So that was like the first thing that we had to do was.
00:09:52
Heather
get our kids together and let them meet. So we met at a park. um It was a wooden park, which unfortunately they tore down now and it's kind of sad, but they met at a park and literally they got, they,
00:10:02
Shelley
Oh. That's awesome. Yeah.
00:10:08
Heather
They got along so well, like more than like anybody we could have ever imagined it happening. They're like literal best friends now.
00:10:14
Shelley
that's awesome
00:10:15
Heather
Like they don't want to be without one of another. They're always with each other in some way, shape or form. And it's just crazy to see the relationship they've built. So obviously, since we've been together since then, everything's worked out.
00:10:30
Heather
Yeah.
00:10:31
Shelley
Right.
00:10:31
Heather
um He had been single for a really long time, so it was it was a good adjustment um for him. And then... um we ended up moving in together February of 2020, which, yes, is really, really soon.
00:10:47
Heather
But it's big.
00:10:48
Victoria Ouellette
so soon
00:10:50
Heather
The funny story behind that is because he was playing WoW one night and completely ignoring my text messages.
00:11:00
Victoria Ouellette
oh no
00:11:01
Shelley
Oh!
00:11:01
Victoria Ouellette
oh
00:11:02
Heather
And then he was like, well, I'll call you when I'm done. Well, he never called me that night.
00:11:05
Shelley
Uh oh.
00:11:06
Victoria Ouellette
ah ah no
00:11:08
Shelley
Oh no.
00:11:09
Heather
So it was like the next day, obviously, I was like upset at him. And I mean, you know, i wasn't too upset, but it was like, ah really, you just you didn't call me nothing, you know. So he was like, you know, why don't we just why just move in together?
00:11:23
Heather
And so that really that's kind of how it happened. But I mean, I'm thankful for it. I'm actually thankful we did move in when we did because of COVID hitting that year and everything that happened. It would have sucked to not live together prior to all of that breaking out. So.
00:11:38
Victoria Ouellette
So what was your first impression of him when you met him then for the first
00:11:38
Heather
um
00:11:43
Heather
um I think I was still iffy. we went We met on our lunch break. but That was our first date. We went to a restaurant right because we happened to work like and wrote two minutes from each other.

Shelly's Friendship Evolution with Heather and Victoria

00:11:56
Heather
It was it was kind of crazy.
00:11:57
Shelley
well
00:11:58
Victoria Ouellette
That's weird. Yeah.
00:11:59
Heather
yeah Because we both live in a different county, but we both worked literally two minutes down the road from each other. So he was like, okay, let's go to let's, our first date can be, well, he met me the day before and the back of my work parking lot so we could just meet each other and see how it was.
00:12:14
Victoria Ouellette
Right. So it's never something that's going be. Yeah.
00:12:18
Heather
i think my first instinct, my first and impression of him was, i mean, that he was, you know, he was okay looking. I mean, obviously he wasn't like super impressed, but he was okay looking. And, you know, I really have never cared about looks to begin with. So yeah.
00:12:33
Victoria Ouellette
right so it's never something that's going to be
00:12:34
Heather
It really didn't matter to me. Yeah, it really did not matter to me.
00:12:37
Victoria Ouellette
yeah
00:12:37
Shelley
Right. Oh.
00:12:38
Heather
um But he was really super nice and I was just going with the flow. I'm always a go with the flow type of person. So i don't know. And then he brought me a rose on our first date and I still have that rose. And that's the reason he brought it to see if I was sentimental enough to keep it.
00:12:55
Heather
So I passed that test.
00:12:55
Victoria Ouellette
Oh, wow.
00:12:55
Shelley
oh
00:12:56
Victoria Ouellette
You passed his test.
00:13:00
Heather
um and also at that time he didn't realize it had been only like four or five months since my husband's passing he didn't realize that he said if he would have known that he would have never continued to date me I never lied about it I was always open and honest I've always been open and honest about it the day he passed away I've you know so he just somehow missed it somehow and that that's that's on him I don't know
00:13:01
Victoria Ouellette
it
00:13:14
Victoria Ouellette
But didn't you tell him or he just didn't listen? Yeah.
00:13:28
Victoria Ouellette
So how long did it take him to realize that it only been like four or five months? Like right away or did
00:13:34
Heather
I don't... No, no, it wasn't right away. It was probably like a couple months later. and Maybe even longer than that when we moved in together.
00:13:43
Victoria Ouellette
it?
00:13:45
Shelley
and he was already stuck it was too late he's like well right
00:13:45
Heather
Because I remember him making a comment. Yeah.
00:13:47
Victoria Ouellette
It was too late. yeah
00:13:48
Heather
Yeah.
00:13:50
Victoria Ouellette
so going back.
00:13:53
Heather
Yeah, it was past the point of turning around because he was like, I really wouldn't have continued it.
00:13:55
Victoria Ouellette
point of no return well that's good
00:14:02
Heather
Yeah, I think, I don't, I mean, I think that's all I got there. I mean, i't I don't feel like it was like a very impressive first impression, but it obviously and enough to.
00:14:12
Shelley
It's interesting though.
00:14:13
Victoria Ouellette
i had its impacts yeah so i think i'm gonna tell you my first impression of shelly because
00:14:13
Shelley
I didn't know that. Yeah.
00:14:15
Heather
Yep.
00:14:22
Shelley
See, I've never heard this story, guys.
00:14:24
Victoria Ouellette
but
00:14:24
Shelley
So this is gonna be something.
00:14:26
Victoria Ouellette
So yeah, Shelly's never heard my version of this story. Um, I feel like you have maybe a little bit here and there. Um,
00:14:34
Shelley
Yeah.
00:14:36
Victoria Ouellette
so how long ago was it now, Shelly? 12 years?
00:14:40
Shelley
12 years.
00:14:41
Victoria Ouellette
12 years ago, I met Shelly.
00:14:42
Shelley
It will be 13 years in August, I believe. End of August. Well, no, beginning of September, I believe.
00:14:49
Victoria Ouellette
Beginning of September. Yeah. I remember it being his birthday.
00:14:51
Shelley
Yeah.
00:14:53
Victoria Ouellette
Um, So the first thing I remember, i do you remember what game we were playing?
00:14:59
Shelley
Yes.
00:15:01
Victoria Ouellette
Guild Wars 2, right?
00:15:02
Shelley
Yes.
00:15:03
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, that's what I thought. So, I mean, me and my husband are gamers. I mean, I met him on World of Warcraft. So um we obviously game together a lot. All of our friends are gamers.
00:15:14
Victoria Ouellette
So I think it was just the... the guild wars 2 i think it just came out so yeah um one of my husband's best friends also played and he invited us some we were well we basically were all military at the time right like our husbands and all that but so it's just kind of a i don't know common isn't it a common thing in the military to go out to dinner a lot i feel like it is because
00:15:17
Shelley
At the time.
00:15:41
Shelley
I feel like they got a lot.
00:15:42
Victoria Ouellette
Right. Like just the guys, I think they did it when they were single and then they just kind of moves on.
00:15:42
Shelley
I remember. Yeah. yeah
00:15:47
Victoria Ouellette
That could just be my, yeah my experience.
00:15:49
Shelley
Well, Tony never really... Yeah. I don't think, but he did live further away from base...
00:15:57
Victoria Ouellette
Well, from us. Well, yeah, i literally, we literally have been the same complexes. The other person, um So yeah, anyways, Wayne's best friend, my husband, and but i invited us out to dinner and i was like, oh, you know, Tony's going to be there.
00:16:13
Victoria Ouellette
And I was like, who is that? And Wayne's like, I don't, it's my boss. Like, I don't know. It's weird, but we like going out to eat. So we went. Um,
00:16:26
Victoria Ouellette
I was like, it's weird to go have dinner with your best friend and your boss, but let's do it, I guess. um And we went to so Brick's Pizza.
00:16:34
Shelley
Wow. Yep.
00:16:37
Victoria Ouellette
ah I can't remember if it was my first time or not. I think it might have been my first time to Brick's. They're really good.
00:16:43
Shelley
It was mine.
00:16:44
Victoria Ouellette
It was definitely yours. I was trying to remember if I knew you were going to be there. Did you know I was going to be there?
00:16:53
Shelley
Yes.
00:16:55
Victoria Ouellette
So I think I did know that you were going to be there, but I didn't know anything.
00:17:00
Shelley
Because I knew that, uh, because I remember Tony telling me that a guy he works with also met his wife on WoW because we met, also met on WoW, Tony and i Um, so and he's like, yeah, I'm
00:17:13
Victoria Ouellette
You know what? I think I did know that. I think someone told me that.
00:17:15
Heather
Thank
00:17:16
Shelley
So we're like, oh, maybe, maybe this could be a friendship, you know, because I legit ah just got there and had no friends. um So yeah, anyways, carry on.
00:17:30
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Um, I think I did know Shelly was going to be there, but all I knew is like, oh, it's the girl he's dating or something like that. Like, I don't really know what.
00:17:38
Shelley
Yeah, because we were just dating.
00:17:39
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. Um, and I think I had the same thought because it was like, I think I got told like, oh, they're playing Guild Wars two right now too, or something like that. And I was like, oh, cool. Maybe, maybe we could be friends because you know, my husband is military. I lived in Virginia at the time.
00:17:57
Victoria Ouellette
um And so I just feel like we moved a lot. So I just refused to get friends. I don't know. That's the kind of person I am, I guess. I know I'm going to move and leave. So why make friends? um I guess I'm okay alone. And I had like a ton of World of Warcraft friends. So I didn't need any real life ones.
00:18:14
Victoria Ouellette
I guess it was my thought. um So yeah, we all went to bricks. I remember we all sat down together and I think we got introduced. i don't remember. I think maybe it was like a sit down at the table.
00:18:28
Victoria Ouellette
this is Shelly. This is Tony um situation. But I remember seeing Shelly for the first time because she just looked like a bitch. Yeah.
00:18:39
Shelley
Oh my god! Oh my god!
00:18:42
Victoria Ouellette
Like when I seen her, i was like, she, I'm not a Valley girl. So she is not going to talk to me.
00:18:51
Shelley
Oh my- Oh sh-
00:18:53
Victoria Ouellette
The face that you were making when I came into the room, I was like, okay, that's fine.
00:18:57
Shelley
oh
00:18:58
Victoria Ouellette
We don't have to be friends. I'll go. go stay with my online friends then. Fine.
00:19:05
Heather
that's just funny to me because you both thought maybe we could be friends but then you gave each other mean looks I don't know
00:19:07
Victoria Ouellette
and Right.
00:19:15
Victoria Ouellette
and It is funny thinking back. And we didn't say anything the entire dinner.
00:19:19
Shelley
The entire dinner.
00:19:20
Victoria Ouellette
The entire dinner, we never said one word to each other. And we weren't like far apart from each other either. ah We weren't that far apart. We could have talked.
00:19:32
Victoria Ouellette
We just didn't. We didn't say a word to each other.
00:19:33
Shelley
Yep.
00:19:35
Heather
It's so weird.
00:19:35
Victoria Ouellette
um I know. It's so weird. It's kind of funny. And then I think we were kind of like in like a little plaza thing and we're like, let's go across the street to get some frozen yogurt.
00:19:47
Victoria Ouellette
um So we did. And I can't remember, Shelley, if you had started some kind of conversation at frozen yogurt. But it wasn't much. It was like, you know, oh, hi And then like something about Guild Wars 2, I think it was.
00:20:06
Victoria Ouellette
And that was it. That was the end of the conversation.
00:20:13
Victoria Ouellette
And I think we ended up talking again because of something on Guild Wars 2.
00:20:14
Shelley
That's so crazy.
00:20:19
Victoria Ouellette
You messaged me. And then so we kind of went back and forth. And then we started planning Shelly's husband's birthday party.
00:20:25
Heather
You had to.
00:20:26
Shelley
Surprise birthday party.
00:20:28
Victoria Ouellette
Surprise birthday party. Because I had to make the cake for it.
00:20:29
Shelley
yeah Yeah. So we must have got, we must have got close in there between that meeting and that for me to ask you, Hey, can you make his cake?
00:20:32
Victoria Ouellette
So I had to.
00:20:32
Heather
had to
00:20:40
Victoria Ouellette
well I right
00:20:44
Shelley
So there was, I think there was like, uh, his birthday's the 25th. So of September. So
00:20:49
Victoria Ouellette
listen I like my online friends that you turned into an online friend and that was you know I don't know yeah so I think our next story is going to be Shelly Shelly's version
00:20:52
Shelley
yeah, I guess that's funny though, that you've seen it that way.
00:21:01
Shelley
my version of what I seen. So I remember, um we're gonna call him Chad, was the one that had said to us, because we were playing Guild Wars 2 like you had said, um he's like, hey, let's go for it.
00:21:07
Heather
Thank you.
00:21:17
Shelley
Were we on, I think, Vent at the time? Were all us on Vent or no? don't remember.
00:21:23
Victoria Ouellette
I don't, not before. i know That was afterwards. I do remember us all being on vent for the first time, but.
00:21:26
Shelley
Okay, so maybe... Because I know Chad said, and I know you guys can't see the quotations, but I'm doing that. um He said that it would be cool if we met, um if I met you, because the thing we have in common is we both met our spouses on, wow, because nobody knew that.
00:21:47
Shelley
Nobody knew that. And when I told him, or when we told him, was like, oh, that's cool.
00:21:51
Victoria Ouellette
I think that is what he told me.
00:21:52
Shelley
You know, whatever.
00:21:53
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:21:54
Shelley
So he had, you know, said, hey, you guys want to go do this dinner? We'll go out for pizza. Tony I were like, yeah, let's do it. And so I remember it was by Wegmans.
00:22:06
Shelley
And I was so nervous. So we get out the car, because I'm always nervous meeting people, especially people I've never met. like And these are people that Tony works with. So you know military, I felt like I had to put on like some kind of a show.
00:22:21
Shelley
don't know. wasn't myself, okay? Obviously.
00:22:24
Victoria Ouellette
To be fair, you get nervous before everything.
00:22:27
Shelley
i do, I do.
00:22:27
Victoria Ouellette
So there's also that.
00:22:27
Shelley
That is my MO. So we walk in. i mean, we I remember this. We get out of the car and I think you three were standing outside.
00:22:40
Shelley
of the restaurant, like not like kind of the parking lot was there. And then there's like a curb thing. Like it was a plaza, right? So we walked up and I remember shaking your hands and I'm like thinking to myself, I'm like, why did I just shake them, head shake their heads? I don't shake people's hands, but because I guess Tony shake their hands.
00:22:59
Shelley
Cause that's what they do when they meet, I guess. I don't know. So I like shook it and it was, so it was just awkward for me shaking your hands.
00:23:02
Victoria Ouellette
I
00:23:05
Shelley
i don't know if you remember that shaking your hand or not.
00:23:05
Victoria Ouellette
is ah don't. I really don't.
00:23:07
Shelley
No, So like that stuck with me, right? So whatever.
00:23:10
Victoria Ouellette
It was that traumatizing, I guess.
00:23:12
Shelley
Yes. I'm like, why?
00:23:12
Victoria Ouellette
I blocked it out.
00:23:13
Shelley
Like, what is she like? What are they going to think? I shake it in their head, you know So whatever. i don't I don't remember going into the pizza restaurant then, but I do remember sitting in that booth in the corner.
00:23:25
Shelley
it was you. No, it was Wayne. You then Chad was in the middle and that it was me and Tony.
00:23:30
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah. this yeah yeah
00:23:32
Shelley
And the guys were talking about their work. And I think that maybe was the reason why we didn't talk was because they were talking.
00:23:35
Victoria Ouellette
Worked the whole time. like
00:23:40
Shelley
And it was like, i remember kept looking at you and I thought I was smiling. so this is one thing about...
00:23:46
Victoria Ouellette
She wasn't smiling, guys. She wasn't.
00:23:48
Shelley
This is one thing about me that Tony always tells me. And I think maybe you guys have told me too. Like, watch your face. And I'm like, I don't, like I said, my face may so be saying something, but truly I am not thinking what my face is doing. Because I don't i don't know. Like, i I don't know. I guess I don't have control. i have no idea. but
00:24:08
Shelley
So I guess in my mind, I thought I was like being nice about it, but it's giving you a bitch face. I apologize. Yeah.
00:24:15
Heather
later.
00:24:16
Victoria Ouellette
guys, took 12 years, but I i finally got an apology.
00:24:17
Heather
um
00:24:18
Shelley
12 years for the apology.
00:24:22
Shelley
And then I remember, but yeah, we definitely did not talk that entire dinner.
00:24:22
Victoria Ouellette
Wait a long time for that one. Yeah,
00:24:27
Shelley
Like not one single word, not like, Hey, what's your, I don't even know if I talked to anybody.
00:24:27
Victoria Ouellette
I know that for sure.
00:24:32
Shelley
Maybe, Chad asked me a question and maybe I was talking back.
00:24:35
Victoria Ouellette
Chad kept talking to you. Yeah.
00:24:39
Shelley
I don't know. Cause like, I think there were, probably in my head because i'm canadian i had the accent really thick back then um and i know like even to this day your husband picks up me for some of the words that i say and sometimes well i mean it's all in fun it's all i mean it's all in fun yeah he does it was all in fun like um garage was one of the things that i would say all the time wed like edge or something like that it's just whatever it's just a fun thing
00:24:57
Victoria Ouellette
Wow. That sounds really bad. but She didn't mean it like that. yeah Yeah.
00:25:01
Heather
if
00:25:01
Victoria Ouellette
No, I'm just kidding.
00:25:01
Heather
He picks on everybody.
00:25:12
Shelley
But um I just remember not talking to you during that table or during dinner and then we went and had ice cream. But I remember i have never seen this frozen yogurt thing in my life with all the toppings and stuff.
00:25:27
Shelley
I had no idea what it was.
00:25:27
Victoria Ouellette
it was you It was when that was really popular, though, you know?
00:25:31
Shelley
Yeah, because you put on your own little toppings.
00:25:32
Victoria Ouellette
And Shelley
00:25:34
Shelley
I mean, I lived in a small town, guys. I had no idea.
00:25:37
Victoria Ouellette
They didn't have frozen yogurt with toppings there.
00:25:39
Heather
you
00:25:40
Shelley
No, honestly, didn't have oh a Walmart for like the longest time, I swear. but yeah, so I didn't know what that was. um i knew it was ice cream, but I didn't know like, what do you do? Like, you like how many toppings you get? I think that's what I asked you.
00:25:57
Shelley
was like, what do i do? and you're like, oh, you do this.
00:25:58
Victoria Ouellette
I was thinking that when you were telling that, like.
00:25:59
Shelley
Yeah, because I had no idea. And Tony's no help, you know. He doesn't know either, so. But I remember sitting at the table and eating it. i don't know if we really talked then or not.
00:26:11
Shelley
um I don't remember anything else about that day. But I do remember talking to you in game and asking, you know, hey, let's I think we were doing stuff in the game, maybe together.
00:26:19
Heather
Thank
00:26:21
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, maybe.
00:26:21
Shelley
And then we started planning and then you come over because I didn't drive. um So you came over. And we hung out. And then, yeah, like I said, we must have got close in there for you to come and make a cake for my husband's surprise birthday surprise birthday party.
00:26:34
Victoria Ouellette
Right.
00:26:36
Shelley
That was actually really fun.
00:26:37
Victoria Ouellette
A fancy cake. Yeah.
00:26:38
Shelley
Yeah, it was really... it was And we actually, to this day, I think now we're good at the years, how many years that we've known each other. But in previous years, we had to wait until September came up for that memory on Facebook to figure out how many years we knew each other.
00:26:52
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:26:55
Shelley
Because we're like, how many years is it?
00:26:56
Victoria Ouellette
yeah Do you know what I always do though? I, and maybe it's like my memory is like kind of like picture memory or something weird. and't know. I know there's like people that different, you know, remember things differently, but in my head, I remember the age your husband was turning and I have to add up how old he is now to remember when, when we met, like for some reason, I just remember those pictures of his,
00:27:08
Shelley
Yeah.
00:27:08
Heather
Yeah.
00:27:13
Shelley
Oh yeah.
00:27:20
Shelley
Oh my gosh.
00:27:25
Victoria Ouellette
his candles, like his age candles on the birthday cake.
00:27:26
Shelley
Yeah. Right.
00:27:29
Victoria Ouellette
And I'm like, that was the year. That's how old he was when we met. um This is how old he is now.
00:27:37
Shelley
that's so crazy yeah so I mean that's that's how I've seen our first impression so yeah we definitely do not hit it off at the first thing although can I i work can I add one thing um Heather the one thing I remember about when I first met you and I think I told you this recently was you came down for her graduation when she was graduating from
00:27:38
Victoria Ouellette
So that's how i remember that. Yeah.
00:27:46
Victoria Ouellette
I mean, i mean
00:28:03
Shelley
Dental assisting, I think.
00:28:04
Victoria Ouellette
I think it was dead to assisting, yeah.
00:28:07
Shelley
And i remember it was at her house ah in Virginia. You were coming down the stairs and I asked you a question, but I thought it was Victoria. And you're like, ah no, you mean my sister. And I was like, oh, dang, sorry. And that was the first time and the last time i ever messed them up.
00:28:27
Heather
I don't even remember that.
00:28:27
Victoria Ouellette
That was the only time.
00:28:28
Heather
That's what's funny.
00:28:31
Shelley
I remember because I was trying to like you know make a good impression on her family. Yeah.
00:28:36
Victoria Ouellette
she goes calling people the wrong names like and so what a first impression i think i remember shelling shelly telling me that story before but that's it i don't know what i was doing so
00:28:37
Shelley
Yeah. yeah yeah
00:28:40
Heather
Yeah, i don't I don't remember that at all.
00:28:50
Shelley
I don't even remember that the question i asked either. It was something to do with only you would know the answer. so
00:28:58
Victoria Ouellette
that's funny oh
00:29:01
Shelley
Yeah, so that's it. That's my, that's our first impression stories, guys.
00:29:04
Victoria Ouellette
yeah they were They were not good in first impressions for me and Shelly.
00:29:04
Shelley
I hope. Yeah.
00:29:07
Victoria Ouellette
you
00:29:09
Shelley
But here we are 12 years later, you know, so the longest, closest, I think, oh like constantly everyday talking friendship I've had.
00:29:10
Victoria Ouellette
12 years later. Yeah.
00:29:21
Victoria Ouellette
yeah Yeah, I don't know if we've gone a day really.
00:29:23
Shelley
Yeah.
00:29:27
Victoria Ouellette
Maybe a couple days like for big circumstances or vacations or something, but
00:29:27
Shelley
Maybe in the, yeah, maybe, yeah. Vacations or yeah, something like that. But yeah.
00:29:34
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:29:36
Victoria Ouellette
Yep.
00:29:36
Shelley
So that's it.
00:29:39
Victoria Ouellette
So let's get into how we came up with our podcast name.
00:29:46
Shelley
Yeah, that's good. That's a good one.
00:29:48
Victoria Ouellette
That's where we can

The Origin of 'The 28th Angle'

00:29:49
Victoria Ouellette
end it with that. um So, yeah, I think for me and Heather are the number 28 has been in our lives, our entire lives. Like we've had best friends growing up with birthdays on the 28th. the 28th. Obviously ours is.
00:30:04
Victoria Ouellette
on the twenty eight um obviously ours is um Like we would have different best friends and they'd still have the 28th birthday growing up. It was the weirdest thing.
00:30:14
Shelley
That's so wild.
00:30:15
Victoria Ouellette
I know.
00:30:15
Heather
Yeah.
00:30:16
Victoria Ouellette
um And it turned out Shelly's birthday is also on the 28th. So apparently I can only best friends with.
00:30:21
Shelley
Yeah. Yay!
00:30:25
Victoria Ouellette
She passed that test. with
00:30:31
Victoria Ouellette
That's how she made it. The 12 years guys. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, we all, you know, we all realized that all our birthdays was on the 28th and and we're we were, you know, thinking of ideas with that. and I think we came up with, who was it, Shelly?
00:30:50
Victoria Ouellette
don't remember.
00:30:51
Heather
it was it was It was me.
00:30:51
Victoria Ouellette
Who said it? Oh, it was you, yeah.
00:30:52
Shelley
I think it was Heather.
00:30:55
Victoria Ouellette
um Yeah, came up with the 28th angle.
00:30:57
Heather
I just threw it out there because it was something that popped up. so
00:31:00
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:31:00
Heather
And then...
00:31:02
Victoria Ouellette
And we thought, you know, three different perspectives, angles, you know.
00:31:06
Shelley
yeah
00:31:06
Victoria Ouellette
It was cute. The 28th.
00:31:07
Shelley
We were looking about we werere looking at like what the 28th angle represents or means.
00:31:12
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah, that's what we went into next. We went to things people could mistake in calling us or like it just, you know, of course, um I worried about it being and people thinking it's a math podcast.
00:31:15
Shelley
yeah
00:31:25
Victoria Ouellette
You know, and she came up a lot.
00:31:26
Shelley
Or fishing. Fishing.
00:31:29
Victoria Ouellette
Yeah.
00:31:29
Shelley
yeah
00:31:30
Victoria Ouellette
yeah
00:31:30
Heather
yeah
00:31:30
Shelley
But it's not. It's not.
00:31:31
Heather
I think my my concern was people asking literally what the 28th angle means. So um I think Shelly looked it up for us and and you know found out that it does have an actual really good meaning for us.
00:31:37
Victoria Ouellette
Yep, definitely.
00:31:44
Heather
So um it actually means the important importance of maintaining strong connections with loved ones. um So it signifies happiness and peace and I really think that's probably what all three of us, I mean, like to represent in ourselves anyway. So it worked out really good.
00:32:03
Victoria Ouellette
yeah definitely
00:32:04
Shelley
Yeah, for sure.
00:32:06
Victoria Ouellette
It's a lot of what we stand for and enjoy and really good friends. And we all love family and, happiness and peace and all that in our life. So it was fitting.
00:32:17
Victoria Ouellette
We all liked it, which is, you know, trying to get three people to agree on something.
00:32:18
Heather
Yep.
00:32:21
Shelley
Yes. Trying to get three people to agree on a name.
00:32:24
Heather
Actually, it was Shelly that came up with something with the 28th and then it was me that came up with the 28th angle.
00:32:28
Shelley
Yeah.
00:32:29
Heather
So I didn't want to take all the credit because I realized, yeah, I realized I kind of jumped in there.
00:32:31
Victoria Ouellette
So you guys kind of work together. Yeah.
00:32:34
Shelley
Well, I felt like, i just I just felt like, you know, it's wild. Never in my life have I've known people, like, with their birthday the same date as mine.
00:32:45
Shelley
Not date, like, not, sorry, month. Not month, just date.
00:32:50
Victoria Ouellette
eight yeah
00:32:50
Shelley
and um your mom even like it's wild to me like it's so crazy to me and like it's just the 28 number just has always been a part of me as well for um x amount years that i am um
00:33:07
Victoria Ouellette
it
00:33:09
Heather
Well, even digging through this, me and my sister realized that our spouses equal, their date equals 28th.
00:33:16
Victoria Ouellette
together they call the 28th yeah So so funny.
00:33:17
Shelley
yeah it's hilarious
00:33:22
Shelley
I mean, MySpoice has 25. Yep. five
00:33:28
Victoria Ouellette
and the kid's birthday somewhere add up to 28?
00:33:34
Victoria Ouellette
That would be funny. Anyways, yeah, so... Scheduling plans, I think the goal right now is every Wednesday morning at 8 a.m.
00:33:46
Victoria Ouellette
So we enjoyed hanging out with you guys.
00:33:47
Shelley
yeah
00:33:51
Victoria Ouellette
I hope you come back and listen.
00:33:53
Shelley
Yes.
00:33:55
Heather
Yes.
00:33:56
Victoria Ouellette
And we'll see you guys later.
00:33:59
Shelley
Thanks for hanging out.

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