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Episode 57 - Easy Birdies and Strava Wankers
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Back in the house for more dribble so buckle in. The lads discuss AC's back-nine on the Old Course, the week's golf and what is up with Foxy. Play-off holes are great with a plethora of listener takes. Enjoy.
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Transcript
Introduction and Golf Frustrations
00:00:17
Speaker
Oh, good morning. Good afternoon. Thanks for tuning in. Whatever time of the day it is. We are back. It's the Off The Tips podcast and
00:00:26
Speaker
Look, I'm, I'm not going to sugarcoat it. It was a bit of a bludger of a week ago. There's not a whole heap to break down, but look, we're going to try our best. And I see calling in from mighty old London. I see. Thanks for staying up late, mate. How you going?
00:00:42
Speaker
I'm good, Cal. Yes, you're right about the golf. It's tough scenes this week.
AC's Fitness Journey and Challenges
00:00:47
Speaker
I've put on some weight over here, so I've just been thrashing myself at the gym, and I'm still a bit out of breath, I reckon. So apologies if there's a whole lot of breathing on the mic tonight, listeners. Yeah, we don't really want a medical emergency on the pod if AC goes down after just, you know,
00:01:09
Speaker
I have to call, what is it over there? Zero, zero, zero to get, um, to get manjorts into the... I don't know. That's actually a good point. I probably should know.
Masters Excitement and Travel Plans
00:01:20
Speaker
It's, um, yeah, good point. How are you, mate? Mate, going, going good as we can. Uh, you know, just counting down the days to a little, little bit of a break, a trip home. You know, we get one last big week push with the masters and then, you know, on the home stretch.
00:01:37
Speaker
One question I've got for you AC is I just thought about, are the, this is out of the blue, are the meal deals at co-ops still a thing in the UK?
UK Meal Deals and Weight Gain
00:01:49
Speaker
And if so, what should go to one? Because I remember when I was there, it was just, it was an absolute necessity most days. Hence why I probably put on 13 kilos the first six months I was there. Well, I reckon I average about
00:02:04
Speaker
five meal deals a week. And it doesn't matter what supermarket you go to, the same three, the test goes. It's always pretty reliable. Bloody good deal. I normally venture for like a fried chicken wrap, a bottle of juice, and then some chips. So yeah, that might explain why my face is looking a bit larger than usual at the moment. Why it's just guts everywhere in the clap.
Malnati's Valspar Victory
00:02:34
Speaker
Oh, mate, we'll jump straight into, you know, chatting a little bit of golf before we go a bit off tangent as we normally do. But Peter Malnati wins on the PGA tour, the Valspar Championship. I wasn't picking a bucket hat and a yellow ball to be victorious on the best tour in the world this week. But what did you think of Malnati's victory?
00:03:04
Speaker
Oh, good on him. I always appreciate an underdog, someone who's really been, there's no other way to say it, other than he's been a real battler on the PGA tour and he's picked up his second win. So good on him. He's, he's been quite vocal lately as well, being part of the policy board. So yeah, all props to him, but yeah, this week didn't inspire him much. And I don't know, is that a bucket hat or a floppy?
Hat Debate: Malnati's Style
00:03:31
Speaker
I'd say that's a floppy.
00:03:33
Speaker
It's a real grey area, isn't it? Because it's almost like a gardening hat. Because it's not quite a floppy that you see on a cricket field and it's not quite the tight bucket hat that you see issues wear. But it's like an in-between. I reckon he'd... I'd say he would look more out of place at first look with a bucket hat than he would with the hat he was wearing the other day. Yeah.
00:04:01
Speaker
Don't get me started on people wearing bucket hats in the career field. I think it's a disgrace, but, um, the heat. Yeah. And it looked good with the, I think, uh, a drawstring. One of those. Yeah. Make sure it's done up really tight too. Yeah. Yeah. So you can't, if you, yeah, I say if you did one of those up at the moment, the string would get lost.
Ryan Fox's PGA Tour Adaptation
00:04:29
Speaker
That's a fact.
00:04:31
Speaker
Um, but other, other takeaways from the week, tough week for guys like Jordan Spieth and Foxy, man, it's, it's been a tough kind of introduction to America for Ryan Fox, hasn't it? Do you, do you put it down to anything in particular? Do you think, or do you think he just doesn't have his best stuff at the moment?
00:04:52
Speaker
It's hard to know. I think there's probably a few things in fact. I think one is probably the adjustment of just playing on the PGA tour. I'm pretty sure he's just on the road in hotels and stuff. Whereas he'd normally base himself out of London, I believe. So I think that would be something that's more difficult. And then also, I think it's his first look around a lot of these places. He played here last year from memory, or maybe played in Texas, but
00:05:20
Speaker
Um, yeah, I just think it's a bit of everything. I don't think he's playing as well though, because he didn't start the year overly well in the European tour. So yeah, it's just been, it's been tough. It feels very quiet. We haven't really heard a lot from him as well. Uh, I guess you hear a lot more from him when stuff's going well, because he's not like front of mind for the average golf fan. He is for us guys, but yeah, I don't know. Do you have any theories on it?
00:05:49
Speaker
I don't really have any theories I just know it's like he had such a good year last year and that like making all four cuts at the majors that big win at the BMW like it's pretty hard to back that up really and it just I'm not sure of some old habits of krypton but yeah he's just struggled in America to start with and look I don't know if what's coming up really suits him and maybe
00:06:20
Speaker
maybe the American style of play doesn't suit him. Like to be honest, they're pretty targetty golf courses. A lot of those tracks on the PGA tour. So, you know, look, we do say it every week, but it is really early days into his PGA tour career.
Hope for Ryan Fox's Improvement
00:06:39
Speaker
But, and I'd like to start seeing something shortly, like, especially bleeding into the major championship season, because, you know, as everyone in New Zealand
00:06:50
Speaker
would attest to, you want to see that guy in the mix at the biggest events of the year. And if his fault line is like this leading into it, it's hard to see him performing in those things like he did last year. Yeah, absolutely. And I think also just you just root for him as a bloke too. So we just want to see him do well.
00:07:12
Speaker
Yeah, I hope he turns it around, and I just want to see him, and I say a lot, just get in the mix at more tournaments. But I think he's just a way off that at the moment. But as you know in golf, he might feel OK about his game currently. He might just be the odd little thing that's off, and it's just sort of escalating. So hopefully he just finds a feel and sort of rolls with it. Yeah, I can turn around really quickly.
00:07:42
Speaker
It's a good field this week at the Houston Open, but he's in it. Whenever you've got a tee time, you've got a chance, I guess. We'll definitely be monitoring his situation leading into Augusta in a couple of weeks, but at the moment, yeah, it's not looking fantastic, is it? No.
Betting Results and JT's Performance
00:08:05
Speaker
Well, enough on, enough on Foxy and, you know, all the best on this week, hopefully, you know, turns, starts to turn it around. But AC, have you got anything else from the Valspar? Not a lot. We've got our bets, which obviously you were coming off a Scotty Scheffler win at the players. And then I had a win the week before, but yeah, we, we were way off this week. You had Foxy to top 10, seeing Mr. Cut, and then you had JT to win.
00:08:34
Speaker
who was T-64. He was in the hunt for a long time. We can talk about shortly. And I had Sam Ryder, who was T-33. I had Eric Cole to win. He was also T-33. And I Carson Young, top 20, and he was T-54. So that's the definition of mediocre right there. Yeah, that's a big swing and a miss. I probably need a taper from putting Foxy on my bet slips at the moment for the reasons we've just discussed.
00:09:04
Speaker
You know, sometimes you're betting with your heart, not your head, just in terms of my punts. But like, I thought JT was a huge sniff this week and I actually had him to top 10 in a gambling syndicate that I'm in. And after the second round, I put a message in the group chat just saying, boys, like, if there's ever a bet that's home, it's JT. It's JT to finish in the top 10 here. And he proceeded.
00:09:34
Speaker
to just sign for 79 on the Saturday, which is one of the tougher carries of all time.
JT's Putting Struggles and Psychology
00:09:43
Speaker
What was that putting display I see that he spewed up? That was unbelievable. He lost seven shots on the greens, which is just unheard of, really. That is insane.
00:09:58
Speaker
It's statistically, it's like they, they can't completely like say exactly what it is, but it's in the worst 30 putting displays of all time. Some stats have been tracked on the tour and there would have been some dusty displays in that time. So that's, that's really tough to see. That's, it's hard work. Yeah. Part of it is so hard mentally. How do you front up the next day? He shot three over, but.
00:10:25
Speaker
Man, I would have been feeling very jittery. It's hard. Cause he's had his, like he obviously had that average seat or shopping season last season. And the puddles are concerned at the start of the year. Like whenever you go back to the putter you've been, you were using in high school as a 30 year old, like probably, there's probably some head noise on display, which is what he did last year. So, you know, hopefully that's not creeping back in because, you know, there were plenty of signs of life.
00:10:54
Speaker
from JT to start this year. So hopefully just a bad week and we can see him kind of ramping it up because you know, he's got the masters coming up and then a hometown PGA championship, which you'd imagine he'll be right up for. So yeah, I'm not, I'm not sending a search party out for JT just yet, but look, we'll, we'll, we'll probably touch on this before the master and reflect on it.
Keith Mitchell's Final Round
00:11:24
Speaker
I declared him back about two months ago and I was starting to look a little bit shaky that call. It's not that he's playing better than he was last year, but I don't know if he's back. That was probably a bit silly. You've got to live and die by that take. The other guy, Cal, I'm interested to see what you say. He used to rub me the wrong way for no real reason. That's Keith Mitchell. I remember.
00:11:51
Speaker
years ago he was winning a major and he had that massive visor on and I just thought who's this yank just a tosser but I actually I'm a big Keith Mitchell guy and it was shit to see him shoot six over on the last day because I was actually I was hoping he would get it done yeah Keith Mitchell uh with his big duckbeak visor the roles it really takes me back to the 90s uh
00:12:16
Speaker
Look, I'm, I'm not a big fan, but I'm not like, he just, he's just another guy kind of for me. I know I've heard him do some, some media and stuff. And he, he seems like a pretty charismatic character, which, you know, you can always affiliate with those guys a bit more that they give you a bit more, but look, yeah, in terms of Katie's obviously a fantastic player and he gets himself to the top of the leaderboard fairly regularly. He probably just, he needs that killer instinct, doesn't he?
00:12:47
Speaker
Yeah, the thing with him is he drives the ball so well, so he always puts himself in contention, but it's just such a big discrepancy between his approach play and driving. It's pretty out there. It'd be one of the larger ones on tour actually. Well, Valhalla coming up, put yourself in a fairway there. You're always a sniff to be honest. Yeah, that's true. Maybe that's a bet to look for. Maybe not a win, but
00:13:15
Speaker
top 10, top 20. Yeah. You never know. You never know. Throw a dart. The list is maybe just put that in your notebook from a couple of guys that are coming off. I don't think you should. I really don't think you should. Uh, they will move on from the PGA tour. Uh, unless you've got anything to add. Nah, I got nothing there to that.
Nelly Korda's LPGA Win Analysis
00:13:38
Speaker
Let's meet out.
00:13:41
Speaker
At the old LA Open on the LPGA 2 and LA quarter, got the job done, returns to world number one, just an absolute baller of a player life. So, so good. But the reason I bring her up is not just that she won, but man, I, I struggled to watch golf when she's in contention. I just find it so boring. It's like I was tuning into that final round. I was obviously, I was cheering.
00:14:11
Speaker
further Aussie and contention tension and Gabby ruffles and she just couldn't quite couldn't quite get there. But man, like, I don't know if it's just because Nellie is so methodical and like surgeon like with the way she plays it. And it's hard to get around. She reminds me a little bit of Brooks Kepger actually, without the, you know, she's not as kind of entertaining when she does media and stuff. And she obviously cares about regular tour events a bit more. But yeah, I just
00:14:41
Speaker
I don't know what it is. I struggle with her a lot. Yeah, that's interesting. I think the comp is Brock's. Brock sort of bludgeoned the ball, whereas Nellie does look graceful when she hits it. So I don't know about that comp. I think. Yeah. I was more meaning like the way they approach golf tournaments is seems quite similar. Like. Yeah. Okay.
00:15:08
Speaker
They're kind of similar personalities on the golf course. Like you don't see a whole heap of emotion and yeah, not necessarily in terms of the actual way they hit the golf ball. Uh, I probably should have stipulated that because you know, it is quite different. Although Nellie is long, but yeah, it's, it's hard to compare them in that instance. Yeah. And Brock's way more of a dog. Nellie's not a noted dog.
00:15:36
Speaker
Yeah, but like two wins already this year, like you could consider that pretty dog like, but anyway, she, I just, I don't know. I can't put my finger on it, but like when she's in contention, it's just like, Oh no, not, not this again. But anyway, mate, I heard that you got out and played some golf this week.
Golf Simulator Adventures
00:15:59
Speaker
Did you want to, do you want to fill us in on that? Yeah, mate. So I,
00:16:05
Speaker
I took a trip to the back nine of St Andrews. Bucket list day. Didn't play well at all. I can't keep a straight face. I played the back nine but it was on a simulator. Yeah, oh mate. I didn't think you could develop head noise on a simulator but I have. I really have.
00:16:32
Speaker
I started shanking them and they, they were hitting the simulator. Lucky the screens were wide, but mate, it was not good. I, I don't know. Have you played simulator golf before? Yeah. Yeah. I have very limited amount, but it is quite hard. And what, did you have your own golf clubs? Yeah, I did. Okay. Yeah. I played using the ones that were there. I found it fine until I got
00:17:00
Speaker
within like 40 meters and normally you just do it on feel and I just didn't know how hard to swing and I just swing every time I'd swing way too hard because I'd feel like you have to like hit it at the screen and yeah I don't know I really struggled and then I started shanking chip shots off artificial turf I was like what is going on here so
00:17:27
Speaker
It's concerning. Actually, I walked away from there going, holy heck, you've got two weeks in Scotland in July. You better not play like that around the old course. Yeah, fuck. Well, you won't be getting signed for TGL Golf any time soon with that. With that display of form, the Boston Common aren't going to be knocking on AC's door. I doubt it.
00:17:57
Speaker
look tough that you didn't play that you didn't play well but probably playing poorly on a simulator is probably a bit easier than i imagine there are a few lagers involved and no it wasn't oh that's not quite um yeah so you went out to play simulator golf to
00:18:24
Speaker
It's too hard to get the golf courses in London and they're all soggy and shit at the moment. It's quite a good option. I know you're playing on a simulator and this is such a nutty chat. What line did you take on 7.8? I took a tight line because it just covered the hotel area, bounced on the cart path and
00:18:51
Speaker
in the middle of the fairway and I think I had a sick sign in which I proceeded to just hit the ropiest tow hook into the thick, the thick hag. I know it's only a simulator but it actually made me think like if you're down the stretch of the open you've got OB staring at you right on 16 and 17. It's like they kind of all bail it out bail out 16 on 16 and 17 like you can hit it as far left as you like really but
00:19:22
Speaker
The other thing that was quite tricky on the simulator is when you get wedged up against the side of a pop bunker because you don't really have a gauge of like, oh, can I get this out or not? You try and it just not work and chip out sideways. That part was quite strange. Well, that's tricky at the best of times. Yeah, exactly.
00:19:43
Speaker
but you you can't like evaluate it like you could on a course if you know what i'm saying yeah like you don't know like how it's sitting in the sand because you're hitting off a mat in saying that if you played st andrews at this time of the year you'd be hitting off a mat anyway probably not out of the bunkers of course but you you have to carry one of those little turf mats around with you in the winter which is you know
00:20:09
Speaker
I actually, I was pleasantly surprised at the simulator golf. I've never played it before. I've obviously used Trackman and tested clubs out, but I've never actually played around a golf and I actually, it was actually quite fun. It obviously doesn't match the real thing, but I actually, it felt more realistic than I thought it would. Yeah, yeah, that's good. And, mate, at least you're out hitting balls again.
00:20:37
Speaker
It's good. It's what we want to see. You know, you've got a couple of months, like obviously missing the Hillary this year, which is tough for your red boys, but you got a big, well, summer of golf for you on the horizon. So you want to be, you know, the game and to be, to be in some respectable neck. Oh, a hundred percent. I need to, I need to start working.
Annoying Gym Scales
00:20:58
Speaker
I've said on the pod before, I need to start thinking of ways that I can work on my game at home. Cause I get up.
00:21:06
Speaker
I need to get better. I need to be better. Nah, my short game's okay. Just my golf swing. I need all sorts of- You just said you were shanking chips on a mat, mate. I don't know how good your short game cat is. That is- Yeah, I'm talking out both sides of my mouth there. Yeah, you're right. I don't know. I don't know. I'm just blaming that on rust. I normally- Well, mate, look.
00:21:35
Speaker
Nothing really has to cover on the golf this week. We'll move straight into our playoff holes, starting with, we'll tee off first, mate. Do you have anything to tee off on? I do, and it's actually a place that I've been trying to frequent lately, and that's something at the gym that I've run into. So I think I pay 50 quid a month, so that's probably pretty standard.
00:22:05
Speaker
25 a week NZ and the one so there's some there's some scales in the men's changing room, but you need to put in One quid coin to weigh yourself How are we going there? I know it's only one quid But I just feel like if you'll pay yeah, it's the principle of it if you're paying a membership I just think that is
00:22:31
Speaker
Fucking ridiculous, especially when you have people like me, you are trying to trim a bit. I don't want to be able to weigh myself, but I'm not paying that. Yeah, that is, that's true. I suppose cash is more, is on the body a bit more in the UK though. Yeah, it is. I just don't understand why. Yeah. Cause what if someone actually is like, they really care about, you know, weighing themselves and they go there.
00:22:58
Speaker
nearly, oh, let's say they weigh themselves twice a week, you know? It adds up the shit. No, that could get you a schooner. Could it? Could it get you a schooner? A pint. A pint. If you, yeah, it's two quid a week for a month, you'd be able to get a pint. Well, if you're weighing yourself at the gym, you're probably better off investing in the scales and the pints.
00:23:26
Speaker
I've been contradicting myself a lot tonight. Look, mine's a fitness one too.
Oversharing Fitness on Social Media
00:23:37
Speaker
I'm taking off on Strava wankers. Using Strava, great. I don't personally use it myself, but I should probably start. But sharing every single run or whatever fitness you do on
00:23:55
Speaker
on Instagram and like, mate, I just can't, I just can't tell you how much I don't care about your 5k time trial. Like maybe if you do like an ultra marathon or something, I can cop that or like a marathon, maybe, maybe an event, like an event driver, maybe, maybe, but just you, your 5k after work or, or something. And, and when, when it's a bit slow, like stipulating, didn't feel good tonight, but went and got after it anyway. Oh.
00:24:25
Speaker
Oh, that that's no good. Yeah, look, so you're talking about the people that actually plaster on socials, aren't you? Yeah, yeah. Like, I don't really use Java, but you can be friends with people and look at people's times. Is that how it works? Yeah. If you're going into the app to see how people have gone, like, yeah, that you're obviously, obviously different, but plastering on other forms of social media is just
00:24:54
Speaker
right up there with some of the top tier pelican behavior in my opinion. Yeah. No, that's fair. And I agree. I, I just don't want to see it. Please. To wrap up the show today, a little bit of a shorter one for the punters out there.
Easiest Birdie Holes in New Zealand
00:25:12
Speaker
So they're not going to hear us dribble for too long, but we put out the feelers for some listener takes. And this week we did what is the easiest birdie in New Zealand and
00:25:23
Speaker
Before we go into the list that takes, I don't know if you've prepared this AC, but what would your, off the top of your head, what would the easiest birdie in New Zealand be for you? Um, I'd say, hmm, Tenet Teaki at my local that's, that's like a par three and a half. Um, it's not the easiest hole, but I do think it's quite an easy birdie.
00:25:51
Speaker
I also make a lot of fives on there when I hit it left into the into the ship. There's a bit of trouble around that. Like, yeah, I think hit a good tee shot. Yeah, I think it's one of those ones where if you average it out, you'd probably average par, but it is one that's easy to birdie. That makes sense. And then, yeah, I think 18 at para is one that came to mind. And there's that there's a par five before a short par three at Tiamuru. I couldn't think of the number.
00:26:20
Speaker
It is an easy birdie. Four. Yeah. It's about 400 meters, I'd say. Yeah. It's an easy birdie. All the time. I was at Tiamo to an easy birdie. That's off the top of my head. An easy birdie. We say that like we shoot under par. Yeah. Say that like we make birdie there every single time. I know full well, I've hit one behind the trees on to it, on for it. Tiam made double, but more than once.
00:26:50
Speaker
But in terms of just looking at the hole and taking all the calculations in to play, it's an easy birdie hole. Mine was 13 at TA, especially in summer because you
00:27:10
Speaker
It's a tee shot, and if you can get it to the hill, which runs down a hill, it's a par five. So if you leave it at the top of the hill, you're hitting like eight or nine iron in, as you know, AC. But if you can get it to start rolling down that hill in summer, you're hitting like gap wedge into this par five. So that obviously is an easy hole. But look, we could go on all day and talk about easy holes. Aiden at Rustley's an easy hole.
00:27:39
Speaker
But I've, I've also made a nine there. So look, um, we'll just rip into our list of the takes. I see we'll go one from one. You start and then maybe if we've played it, we can, we can discuss where it's at. Yeah. So this one's from Danny and he said the third slash 12th at Otomodi. I haven't played Otomodi, but I've heard there's some very half a shot sort of holes.
00:28:08
Speaker
there'll be a few listeners not in the head saying that's an easy hole but yeah it's hard for us to discuss when you we haven't played it but um this is from TZ obviously an occasional podcast host and this may be a little bit of a dig at his brother his twin brother he said all 18 holes at Amberley Beach because we played out there over summer and Dave who it was also an occasional podcast host equaled the course record so with a
00:28:38
Speaker
8 under 64. But it was... I wouldn't say all the hulls are easy. There's definitely some easy hulls there. Lucky Eagle 2, that's a pretty easy hull. It's a classic country course and actually we needed to of course Nuffy's on it because I highly recommend playing there if you're in the area. It's one of my favourites. That's good and good to have a little bit of context around that one too. Next one's from Bill. He agrees with me. He says,
00:29:08
Speaker
Easiest three or hardest five. Yeah, so for the listeners that don't know, it's a short par four. I don't quite know what he means there, but I think what he's saying is once you're in trouble, it can be quite tricky. You can make bogey easily or easy birdie. I think that's what he's saying. Yeah, I think they occasionally play it as a par three, though, don't they? Yeah, if they play a really hard hole.
00:29:36
Speaker
I think at the race to Turkey and at the Charles Tour event, I think they, well winter stroke play, sorry, that I think they play as a par three and then it's a proper big boy hole. Yep, massively. Yeah, we've got Monty sends in two, 18 at Para Para and we've already touched on and two at Muriwai downwind.
00:30:05
Speaker
yeah i'd agree with that yeah that is wide you can hit it anywhere off that tee as long oh look you can't go left but i think that's a good call actually from monty um have you played me all right cow no i've never actually been there i think i was supposed to go and play out there
00:30:26
Speaker
with you boys, but I think I got injured playing footy and I couldn't go. It was either that trip or the town boat trip. So I actually- Yeah, that rings a bell actually. I haven't actually played there. Yeah, good track. Next one is Matt Coringa 1. I have no idea what- That's one of the easier holes going around the Canterbury region that-
00:30:56
Speaker
It's just a straight, pretty wide par five that even in winter, you're not hitting much club into it. That's a good call. And it wouldn't really cross my mind at Coringa. Actually off the tips, I believe it is the longest golf course in the Southern Hemisphere. Yarns.
00:31:25
Speaker
I think that's, that could be a yard. But like it is, there is. We're going to have to fact check that. Yeah. Yeah. Let's fact check that. Some, to be fair, someone just told me that when I was, uh, when I was playing there. I didn't tell you the pub, did I? No, no, no. It was out there. Oh, um, I'll fact check that as you read out the next one, I see.
00:31:50
Speaker
Okay. Okay. Um, this one's from Ben and he says number two at Royal Bannockburn. I don't even know where that is. Uh, I think the Royal Mantra might be a bit of a piss take there. Bannockburn is like a, it's a central Otago kind of, kind of town. Uh, I only know that because you used to go on school camp there when I- Okay.
00:32:17
Speaker
was at Queenstown Primary. There's not a heap there. So look, I can imagine that's, that looks like, that'd be one of the more country tracks going around. So I'd imagine there'd be a couple of gettable holes out there, but look, maybe that's,
00:32:33
Speaker
that's a course that we need to tick off one day, go down it. I love seeing tracks like that. That's very niche. Okay, I'll keep going while you find that. The next one's from PureGolfersNZ and they've gone with the 14th hole at Nelson, driver A time most days.
Key Par Fives: Nelson and Fongar
00:32:53
Speaker
Okay, I haven't played
00:32:55
Speaker
Nelson Golf Club, but it does look very open from what I've seen. Yeah, it is. Look, just before we get on there, there is absolutely no facts behind that being the longest golf course in the Southern Hemisphere. What does it tip out at? Um, no, no, no. I didn't actually look at what it tipped out at. I just was looking for whether
00:33:25
Speaker
That direct quote was said to me, that was said to me, it was a fact and it appears it's not. So look, I'm sorry about that, but that's okay. On Nelson Golf Club. Yeah, it is open. I played a few times, there a few times over summer for the first time and, but like when the wind blows, cause it's right on the beach, it's very, it's a Lynx course, it's as tough as it comes, but
00:33:55
Speaker
14 at Nelson might be one of the easier par fives going around. I believe it was a, it used to be a par four, but some of the members complained and they just turned it into a par five without changing anything about the whole. And it's literally like, I'm not long by any stretch of the imagination. And there was no real way that I hit
00:34:22
Speaker
I hit, I emailed the green with nine iron the first day I played there and made seven. And then the next day hit, hit pitching wedge and made birdie. So like, it's, you're not hitting much club into a par five, even if, and if you're a long player, like, you know, some others are, you could be hitting less than that. So.
00:34:48
Speaker
Yeah, that is an easy hole, but it could be different playing into the fan as a lot of these holes are. Hey Cal, I've just pulled up Karinga Golf Club and so it tips out at 6500, which is actually, that's quite long, but it's definitely not Southern Hemisphere levels. Maybe it was like 100 years ago.
00:35:16
Speaker
No, yeah, I think they they have like these special tips that they put out because there's like events, a lot of land. Yeah, yeah. So I don't know. Whoever told me, I just believed whoever told me that because I they had they had the blacks out on this one hole and I looked back and that dead set would have been like
00:35:38
Speaker
Like a five iron away. 50 meters away. Jake says 10 at Fongar is up there, which is AC. You can probably let the listeners in on this as you have been a member at Fongar. Yeah, I have been. Yeah, so it's always been a pretty easy par five, but I
00:36:03
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Yeah I think, I haven't played since the trees have been cut out but I can imagine with that it would just be free rain off the tea, elevated tea. We can get, it's very boggy in the winter longer, it's basically underwater but in the summer it can get quite dry and yeah I can imagine you could have some pretty short clubs into that hole and there's not, there's not a lot of trouble. I actually have my longest holdout.
00:36:26
Speaker
on that hole, but it wasn't for Albatross because I topped one previously. A whole one from about, it was probably, it was a four iron, so it must have been 185 probably, for Eagle. Jesus, good. Fuck, you'd love to see it. Yeah, but it just sucks that it wasn't, it wasn't for an Albatross, that would have been cool. But anyway, I'll stop blabbing on about that. Daisy said 10 at Nelson. Yeah, it's pretty easy.
00:36:55
Speaker
It's, it's, it's a little bit longer. Like, like I, I know, oh, this is just obviously, you can only speak from personal experience, but I hope the fairway both times I played there and was still hitting. I don't know. I think I hit like a three hybrid and it was, and it was admittedly playing into the fan a little bit, but yeah. And in terms of layout, it is, it's just a straight, straight part five that is just, Oh no, sorry. I'm thinking of the wrong, I'm thinking of 11.
00:37:26
Speaker
Yeah, 10, 10 is pretty easy actually. It's why the airport on the right, it's big, big target, not hitting much club in and then 11 is easy as well as I got my holes back to
Scoring-Friendly Holes and Personal Anecdotes
00:37:48
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front there. So yeah. It's early over here, mate. And look to finish.
00:37:55
Speaker
We've just got another one. I said 13 at TA and Jake says 12 at TA, which is, yeah, equally as easy. That's a very scoring stretch of golf there. 12 and 13. The only thing about 12 at TA... Is 12 at 1 with the OB right? No, it's got OB left. So it's got the driving range on the left. Oh, yes, yes.
00:38:21
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So it's actually a little bit nerdy for someone like me who's got a well-documented left miss because you just Just blow one straight into the middle of the driving light range So like you surely yours don't cuz normally when yours go left if they come out here high Yeah, yeah Well, then you just hit it to the net just go through the net It does have some holes in it. So
00:38:49
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they're probably not finding it. But it does, I will say like the tee shot there does demand a cut obviously, but it's an awkward tee shot, especially when the tees are right over on the right. But look, you can, but in saying that you can just probably hit like, you can just hit five or six iron down there and still probably, and probably have the same club in at the absolute most.
00:39:17
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But if, if you can hit a high, like cut over those trees on the right, like mate, you're, you're talking pitching with your lesson to that hub and it's a bit great, but that pretty much wraps up there. I need to stiffen up their par five. I think in tournaments, I think in tournaments, they might play as par fours, those two holes, 12, 13. But that wraps up our, our listener takes, man, we actually,
00:39:44
Speaker
We had a few there and took us out to the 40 minute mark after I said that we were going to have a short pod, but I see. Are we doing some piling on the edit? Yeah. Do you have any parting words for the listeners? No, nothing from me. Just enjoy the last bit of good weather in NZ and get out and play some golf.
00:40:07
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Well said, mate. And guys, as always, we appreciate you tuning in and we will catch you next week.