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Episode 59 - Masters Recap
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AC takes the reins this week alongside his brother Jake. The boys discuss final rounds, Scottie's greatness, Ludvig, the disappointments and much more. As always, things got a bit weird when the lads discussed the pigeon racing in Timaru. Enjoy!
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Introduction and Guest Appearance
00:00:18
Speaker
Welcome to the Off The Tips podcast. It's AC here, riding the Carter. Our good friend, Cal, he's under the weather at the moment and he's back in the motherland. So I just hope that it doesn't hinder his preparations for the Hillary Cup this week. But yeah, so he's taken the spell and
00:00:30
Speaker
That's your home
00:00:37
Speaker
Joining us today, a familiar voice for me, but not for the listers. My brother, JC, Jake Clare. How are you going, mate? Welcome to the pod. Any first tee gestures for
Scotty Scheffler's Masters Victory
00:00:50
Speaker
you, mate? How are you feeling? Oh, I'm feeling all right so far. Good to be on. Had a couple close calls at jumping on, but now we're on and it's good to be on Masters Week for some golf that I've actually watched. Yeah, good stuff.
00:01:07
Speaker
Most listeners here I'm sure know that Scotty Scheffler gets it done this year, winning by four, a clinical final day and just an epic Masters to be honest. I don't know about you Jake but I really enjoyed the Masters this year. The last sort of six holes I guess were probably a bit
00:01:27
Speaker
sort of, I don't know, it didn't quite live up to what I thought it would, but until we got there, I thought Augusta was at its absolute best. It was so firm and fast, except that first sort of Thursday morning where there was the rain around. Do you have any thoughts on that? Like, how do you enjoy your viewing this week? Yeah, I loved it as always.
00:01:51
Speaker
I was hoping for a little bit of a closer finish in the end, but it was pretty good up until 11, 12 and Golden Bell and Amy and Korna struck, but Scotty way too good in the end. Did it what? And I think, I don't know how you felt. During the week, I sort of thought, I said to Cal and whether it was stupid or not, I thought Scotty, round one and two, I thought he wasn't himself.
00:02:19
Speaker
He hit one, should have gone on the drink on 13. He was lipping in three footers, like really sketchily. And then, so I thought, to be honest, after two rounds, I thought Homer was the guy to beat. And then Chef were on that final round. He came out of the blocks a little bit sketchy and then
00:02:42
Speaker
from 8 down just played flawless it was it was pretty incredible while others were sort of stumbling around him he the thing about chef and I I'm interested to see what you think
Ludwig's Potential and Style
00:02:55
Speaker
too is he he hits the bold shots but he never gets greedy so like he still goes for 13 and 2 even though he doesn't need to he just backs his ability to put in the middle of the green 9 he hits one to a kick in
00:03:12
Speaker
He just, he knows when to be aggressive and knows when not to. And it sounds simple, but you just see, he just does it better than anyone else. And he executes. Yeah, he's, he's so far the best player in the world at the moment. I think even you just before saying he's a bit shaky round one and two, he's still out of six under round one, which is pretty scary. Like if you think he's not his best and he's shooting that and he's got to be tough to beat coming home.
00:03:42
Speaker
Um, I was pretty surprised in the last round, those first five, six, I was to see if Mrs. Iron shots that far, but didn't take long for him to turn that around. And then there's no stopping him from there. Yeah, he was really struggling. Even the, the short end of the first, particularly like, hang on, like this isn't, this isn't Scotty. And then from there, it was just like he sort of.
00:04:11
Speaker
He just, he just steadied himself and that's, that's what he's about. He doesn't get too high or low. He's, he's pretty unflappable. I thought when, when Max fired that dart in there at 10 and, and Ludwig made that part on nine, I thought, Oh, it's all on here. We're going to have like four going in. Um, it's going to be like a grandstand finish. And then my car would dump that one, the bunker on nine.
00:04:40
Speaker
makes a six, Ludwig dumps on the water and leaven and all the sudden it was just, and then Max sort of made a meal of 12 and it was just, it was amazing how quickly that turned. Is that how you felt? Yeah. Yeah. It was, I mean, yeah, for all three guys, I was in a space of two holes. I was just all of a sudden shift of keeps the ball, keeps the ball dry and keeps on the profit. He was probably going to be sweet. Um,
00:05:09
Speaker
Yeah, for me, Chef Lo, it was also that that weird shot too, where he just emailed the green. I was like, shit, you might not be on here, but he was that back nine. He was just flawless. Ludwig, that shot on 11. I thought that was his only bad shot, really. Like 100%. He played sweet after that. It was just Scottie was just too good after.
00:05:35
Speaker
Yeah, he pulled out. Um, let's, let's go into them a bit more individually. So Scotty.
00:05:42
Speaker
He was 22nd parting this week, first tee to green and first around the green. And one thing I was going to mention is just his ability to chip shots to like kick ins, like within a foot. So it just, it just takes so much pressure and mental energy off. You know what it's like when you hit like a decent chip and it's like five, six foot, like it just gets so draining.
00:06:09
Speaker
Yeah, I know that. Probably not a decent chip, a good chip. And you just have all these five, six foot mop jobs. Whereas he just chips them to like, he doesn't even have to think about the part. Yeah. It's, it's pretty spectacular. He's just so, so good all around. Like he is, I don't know, in my life, I've never, I don't think I've seen anyone play this good. So consistently, like,
00:06:37
Speaker
week in week out just flushes it and yeah it's just so
Evaluating Max and Colin's Strategies
00:06:42
Speaker
hard to beat and i'm sure you probably saw he hasn't shot over par this year it's staggering and then you throw in also you know we've had we've had bay hill the players and then houston open and the masters and he's lost to one person yeah and that's also
00:07:04
Speaker
three tough golf courses. He hasn't even shot over pirates. Yeah, it's hard to sort of, you kind of run out of words to say how good he is. A couple of messages I've had in from Monty Jake. He said that Scotty's a better bloke than he gets credit for, which I don't know what Monty's on about there. I don't think anyone thinks he's a shit bloke. Like I, you know, he,
00:07:34
Speaker
I don't think so. I'm interested to see if he'd had a few beers or I don't quite know what he's going to try to say there, but I think.
00:07:45
Speaker
I don't know how you feel, but two months, so two years ago, I found him quite boring, but I think he's just slowly sort of opened up to the media. And now I'm like, he's not boring. He's just quite down to earth, but he's still, you know, he still cracks the old like joke, whether it's funny or not. It's another thing, but he's not, I wouldn't say he's really boring. I think, I think he's evolved. I think now.
00:08:09
Speaker
Now when he talks to the media, you can tell that he's really sort of, he knows he's good, but he's humble at the same time. Yeah. I think that's probably like the thing, like he doesn't really come out saying like, like Broxford or something like, yeah, I'm going to win this week and stuff. But I don't think anyone at all ever thought he was a shit bloke.
00:08:33
Speaker
No, okay. The other thing, the other thing Monty's fired in is, he said that Scotty will win six or more majors. Would you agree with that? Yes, at the moment, I'd like to. I wouldn't be surprised if he wins three out of the fours. Yeah, I definitely think he's going to win two. I would not be surprised at all if he won three.
00:09:01
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I don't see why not. If he plays like he is for the... Which is hard to do obviously, but if he plays like he is for the next two, three years, he could have six by then.
00:09:12
Speaker
Yeah. It's one of those ones I always worry whether you're becoming a bit of a prisoner of the moment because there's like, you think of the run Rory went on from 2011 to 2014, Spieth in that sort of period from 2015. Even Jason Day's run in 2015, he only got one major, but it's just, it's so hard to maintain. And like Tiger Phil, there's not many that have done it, but
00:09:40
Speaker
Scotty, like, I think right now it is hard. It is easy to say. I do think he can win six or more. It's, um, yeah. But yeah, again, like even things like having a kid that will change things with, uh, yeah, it might make me better.
00:10:06
Speaker
Like, heck, if that perspective gives him another, like, point to size 10. What was the go with that? Like, do you reckon if he got a phone call on 16? Was he leaving? I think he would have. I reckon if it was late in the round, Meredith would have just held off the phone call. I think she would have too. She gets a good paycheck too. Yeah.
00:10:35
Speaker
Yeah, it's hard to say. Have we got anything else on Scotty? Nah, I think obviously Ted Scott as well. Four Masters wins now. That's impressive. That's going to be something to count for as well. So impressive as a caddy.
00:10:55
Speaker
No, I agree. Yeah, I run out of things to say about Scotty. And I think the more majors he peels off, the more interesting he becomes. And I don't know. I don't know about you. I don't feel heaps when he's playing. But I don't root against him either. But I wasn't going, oh, I hope Scotty doesn't win. But I just gravitate towards other players.
00:11:25
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. Great.
Unexpected Performances at the PGA Tour
00:11:28
Speaker
Okay. Let's move on from Scott. The other guy who, I'm so proud of him and it sounds really stupid, but Ludwig. I, I thought he hit the shit out of it on Sunday. He, as you mentioned, he had one bad swing, but oh, he, he looked so relaxed and like chilled and, but he's got that dog in him too. And I, I dunno, I, I just came away from that.
00:11:55
Speaker
And Rory's my favorite player and I was like, maybe Ludwig should be my favorite player. He was just cruising around. He was just cruising around loving it and just flushing it. He's such a good player. He's going to be, I think everyone knows now, but he's going to be so good. Something that I saw was like, everyone talks about how much he flushed it.
00:12:20
Speaker
Which he not having 320 bombs up the guts and then flushing his irons, but then Apparently he had zero through three parts this week Yep, he was first in parting this week So you you throw that driver in with the ability to part like that Being first first strokes game putting around Augusta and your first start there. Yeah Yeah
00:12:47
Speaker
I think it helped that he had, oh, his name's escaping me on his back, Ricky's old kitty.
00:12:55
Speaker
um yeah anyway he's he's had plenty of trips around there and and Ludwig did credit him saying that he felt that he helped him out a heap um but yeah just the way he just wore a smile on his face and i don't know the way he rolled that clutch putton on six the par three and then he looked at it he looked at his caddy like well i was stressed over that but the fact he still made it shows that
00:13:22
Speaker
He's got that dog in him. And as you say, I think apart from 11, he barely missed a shot. Yeah, I was a little bit disappointed that one left on 15 because I was like, man, get him a long line in his hand and he might be able to make an eagle. And then he flipped that one left. But even that wedge he had in 15
Rory McIlroy and Other Disappointments
00:13:42
Speaker
was a yard from being within five feet if it came back off that ridge. And then he almost went out anyway.
00:13:51
Speaker
But yeah, I just, I'm buying Ludford's stock. Like I first made a start. He just, he's unflappable. And someone, I was actually yelling to some old cadre at work and he was, he did make a good point. He said at the moment, there's just no scar tissue there. Like there's just no demons from being old that maybe someone like Spieth and Rory have.
00:14:19
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, looks like I think it is a vehicle and it definitely looks like that when he's playing like he was like the smile on his face the whole day that's when the drink has a little laugh. He was just loving life, wasn't he? Yeah. He also.
00:14:42
Speaker
Um, so I've just been at the pub and my mate Liam, who, you know, Jake, um, watches a lot of golf and he, he reckons that Ludwig is going to get double figure majors. What's your response to that? That's an enormous take. I mean, yeah, he covered it. I think it's too early to, too hard to know now. Okay. If you were setting a line on the tab, what would it be?
00:15:14
Speaker
like majors i'd probably go four and a half yeah i was gonna say i was gonna say four or five so we go four and a half you can't really yeah it's so hard like you can't might be might be easier to might be easier to make a call after this here once he's played four well i think i think he'll be very hard to beat at valhalla um calthor cal thinks he's gonna win the open which i don't i'm not
00:15:44
Speaker
I'm not overly sure. He's European, but he's Scandinavian, college golf. I don't know if the open will be necessarily his go straight away. I think he'll be good in any conditions to be honest, because he hits it so well. He'll be around. A lot of people will be around until 4, I wouldn't be surprised to say. Probably worth discussing is Max's weak. He's notoriously
00:16:10
Speaker
struggle to majors and we all know that he's a better player than that but it was it was really awesome to see him this week play so well after two rounds he was my guy to beat I thought he was just I haven't seen him play that well and before I actually listened to a pod three days before it and he said best he swung it in three years and then I went straight to the TAB and put some money on because I was like man if that's the case then I think he was
00:16:41
Speaker
Yeah, I knew he'd swing it. Well, Cal, Cal actually missed me and he said, I wish every year was just flushes only like this leaderboard was, which fair statement. What'd you think of Max this week, Jay? Yeah. Um, you found him at 90 months too. Yeah. Um, I thought, I mean, I didn't see a lot until the last round, but, um,
00:17:09
Speaker
yeah Val reports he was playing good and then last round he he just had that butcher on 12 really which it was a bit unlucky to take that big off but um i thought he maybe could have like on 13 hitting three words and then he couldn't get there i thought he maybe didn't take the course on enough to try and
00:17:32
Speaker
Are you going to have to run down Scotty? I mean, it was always going to be hard for him to shoot a 7 under or something, but I don't think he really attacked him enough to even get close to that. No, I think that's a really fair statement. I thought that shotty into 10 was sick. That was a dart. I think he had to drive on 13 too. It was
00:17:57
Speaker
Yeah, it just wasn't it. I think he had to force the issue there. I don't really... I know that he finds the Long Island there quite uncomfortable, the way he swings it with the ball above the feet. Yeah, yeah. I think it was time to step on it. I think it really was. Definitely. Yeah, I think
Ceremonial Tee Shots and Aging Legends
00:18:18
Speaker
you will learn a lot from that. And I think now he had a good finish at the Open last year. So he's had two good major finishes in a row. I think the monkey's off the back.
00:18:28
Speaker
Which is real cool because I think... Yeah, I agree. I think now he's had one really good crack at it. Like, because we've all kind of expected him to be in the mix a few times and he's been nowhere near it. But now he's had one real good crack at it. I think one might be far away from now. Yeah, I agree with that.
00:18:48
Speaker
And then in the final group, Colin, I actually remember messaging you, Jake, and I thought after six hours, I was like, Colin's flushing this thing, you just need some parts to drop. And then on nine,
00:19:04
Speaker
Really bad mistake putting in that bunker. That was dead there. I actually think he hit that first bunker shot so crispy. He was one of those ones he hit too good and he just sort of slid under it.
00:19:19
Speaker
And then from there, you're always going to play more conservatively, made a six, and then sort of had to try force the issue on 11. I don't know, I think a lot of people were going to call out Colin. And yeah, it's pretty yuck watching him hit like a big cut off 13 too. That was pretty disgusting. But I don't know, I think, yeah, I don't know.
00:19:46
Speaker
It was good to see him back. I don't think he is a dog, but I don't think he probably played as bad as what people would make out. Nah, he was, he's such a good player and such a good iron player. Like he's always going to, he's always going to be the best snuff as an either. I can't say I was really rooting
Pigeon Racing Story at the Pub
00:20:09
Speaker
for him to win. I messaged you saying, I hope he gets a gust on 12.
00:20:18
Speaker
We were pretty keen to see him dump one in Ray's Creek.
00:20:22
Speaker
yeah yeah um i just only such a good player but if he had three majors i'd be scratching my head yeah that's such a good call yeah it's hard to believe even dotty called out that he only has two major that his two majors were during covid with no crowds so she obviously has an asterisk next to them that that Harding park that Harding park that was such a
00:20:51
Speaker
It was like a Houston Open or something. Yeah, me and Cal discussed it on the pod regulating. Yeah, I'm sure the listeners know that too. Let's move away from those guys.
00:21:09
Speaker
Foxy. It was so good to see him. I had no expectations for Foxy this week. I thought he'd missed the cut the way he's been going. He's really been struggling. I don't think he probably envisioned that he'd be leading the Masters at some point this week.
00:21:31
Speaker
It wasn't, it was kind of funny, but no, that fat, he hurt into 13. That was, um, that was one of the biggest things from a pro. One or two bounces in, like that was, um, yeah, nah, it was good to see him in a strong and decent lake to get it. Cause he seriously battled since going to the PGA tour.
00:21:56
Speaker
Um, yeah, I was very surprised when I woke up Friday morning straight onto Instagram. It was like, right. Fox had shot a 30 front line or something. I was like, no, I heard him talking a few weeks ago saying he struggled with it. Moving to America, like hasn't really, like doesn't have as many mates here can go out with like,
00:22:19
Speaker
like the European tour guys that he's been playing with for the last, I don't know, five, six years or something. He said he hasn't really enjoyed the lifestyle, but hopefully that turns around for him and puts a few good PGA Tour weeks together. Yeah, I sort of, I think. I'm pretty sure me and Cal sort of speculate on that.
00:22:41
Speaker
It kind of, I can imagine it'd be hard in Europe, you travel around together a lot, but I think it's about every man from South on the PJ tour a bit more. And I can imagine it'd be quite an adjustment. And I think, I don't think he has a base in America either. So he's, he's just out of hotels. Yeah. He, um, he was coming, he was coming back and forth for a bit as well as I think his,
00:23:08
Speaker
wife's dad was pretty unwell so he's been back and forth up from New Zealand from the state so hopefully things settle down for how many settles in on the tour.
00:23:20
Speaker
But in terms of like, I know it probably comes across negative saying we didn't expect Foxy to do that, but I'm just stoked to see him have a pretty good week. And it didn't end up how he would have liked, but it was just nice to see, see some form from him because man, we're always rooting for Foxy. What a unbelievable human. He's just so Kiwi. He's so easy to get around. And yeah, I hope, I hope that springboards the season a little bit.
00:23:51
Speaker
I think maybe a good segue would be the live guys. We got a lot of Bryson content this week, Jake. Did you enjoy seeing Bryson back in the mix? T6 for him. He was in the lead after the first day. Did you enjoy seeing Bryson back on your screen? No, not a fair amount.
00:24:17
Speaker
I enjoyed having the love guys back. There's some seriously good players there. It is good to see where I'm playing against each other, but Bryce doesn't do it for me. Having his 3D printed irons. He's a content machine though. You gotta know that. Pulling that side out, having it over his shoulder like a sack of potatoes.
00:24:43
Speaker
Oh, I enjoyed having Bryson back in the mix and I didn't want him to win by any means. It was, yeah, I thought it was quite fun having him there. And he's just such a dork. Yeah. Holy gal on 18 on the third round, I was thinking the crap. Yeah. No, it's beautiful stuff. Cam also T6. I loved seeing Cam have a good week because I, I must admit I was a little bit worried that he could
00:25:14
Speaker
I don't know, like clocked off on Liv a little bit. But awesome to see here at a decent week. So there's signs of life there from Cam for sure. And I really think Pinehurst is going to set up really well for him. It's a little bit sandbouty feeling at Pinehurst. So I think if he keeps trending, I think he'll be a big factor there. Yeah, I'm a huge Cam Smith fan too. He was probably
00:25:43
Speaker
Probably was my favourite player that went to live, and I just hadn't really seen him, but I still love him. He's just such a solid player, putts the lights out. He was saying after the Masters that he... I don't know, he didn't get that much coverage without... Well, from what I understand, he didn't really make a lot of putts. He still was like four-stroke game putting, so he probably thought he had a bad putting week, but he was still rolling, he was rock.
00:26:12
Speaker
yeah always will yeah okay i think it's probably time to to go the disappointments let's start with rory so monty's monty sent in a take jake uh he said that rory's a little boy i just want to hear your response to that to start nah he's not a little boy at all
00:26:37
Speaker
The PGA Tour at the moment, he's probably the biggest, the biggest dog there. He's not, not the best player, but he's, you know, he's the most well respected and all that. And he's won four majors. He's won three FedEx Cups. Um, one of the players. He's, he's definitely no little boy. I'm interested to see if Monty, if it's in response to just this week, I think that is such a harsh take.
00:27:06
Speaker
I don't know about you. I didn't expect anything from Rory this week really. He just looks off all year. He's not comfortable with his golf swing. I watch a lot of Rory and he is taking about two or three extra looks at the flag or wherever he's aiming before he hits, which to me just shows that he's not comfortable over the ball.
00:27:36
Speaker
He's not trusting his golf swing. He, he doesn't want to pull the trigger. And also before this week, this was a second worst he's ever been strokes, gain approach play. And you could just see it all week. He was playing with Scotty the first two days and Scotty would always hit the right distance control and he'd hit it on the right level, the flag. And Rory just didn't have that control.
00:28:05
Speaker
and then you throw him wind and Rory just, his game just wasn't there. I don't think it was an Augusta thing or a mental thing. I just don't think at the moment his golf swing and games in the position where he can hit the shots he needs to. Yeah, I, same as you, I didn't have high hopes for him this week. Like he hasn't done much this season. Had that little,
00:28:33
Speaker
Well, a little backdoor top five last week at the Valero, but that's, I don't know, it doesn't mean anything to me personally, but I didn't have high hopes, but I agree. I don't think it was Augusta or the Masters. He's just not playing as well as he has over the last few years coming into it.
00:28:55
Speaker
Yeah, in Augusta, more than anywhere, whenever you're watching, you just get so exposed if you can't hit that iron shot with the right flight.
00:29:07
Speaker
and on the right shelf and he just he just didn't he couldn't hit them and there's a lot of criticism there was there's a time on the second round where Rory hit one in the water and Scotty hit one straight through and at the moment Scotty has more shots and he maybe does does all together but Rory can fly tonight he's not a
00:29:27
Speaker
He's not a fucking idiot. I've seen him do it. I just don't know if there's golf where it needs to be right now. People are saying he can't flight one. I've seen him go to the Scottish Open last year. He can fly to nine. He's Rory McElroy. He's the most talented golfer on the planet. He can fly to nine. He can be a little bit of a... I don't know if he's always a mutter. He prefers a wet track and he just pin-hunt.
00:29:57
Speaker
He's not completely one dimensional. I think Scotty at the moment, yeah, he definitely has more shots of his armory, but I just don't think Rory's near where he needs to be at the moment. I just hope he can find something and I hope he doesn't do a big... I hope he doesn't panic too much. I think he needs to just think, how can I get to swinging it like I did at LACC last year?
00:30:23
Speaker
He made one bad swing probably with that wedge that hit that bunker and you got beaten by one person and same as sort of at the open, you know, it's not like he's far off. Nah. Hopefully Valhalla's the week coming back to his last major.
00:30:42
Speaker
Yeah, I think, yeah, obviously good memories there. Ludwig, Scotty, Rory, it'd be hard to go past those three there. The one thing I think Rory could do is, I don't know, I...
00:30:58
Speaker
I listen to the other, the teams, I listen to Max and Joe and then also Scotty and Ted Scott. I wonder whether Rory should get a senior caddy. They don't really converse. I just think sometimes in the big majors and the big spots, I sometimes wonder whether he needs a caddy that's a bit more firm with him.
00:31:25
Speaker
Yeah, it's something that's been brought up for a few times over the last few years, eh? I mean, yeah. I don't really know what to say on it, but I'm sure having a senior caddy who's been around the block for years won a lot is... I'm sure it can only really be done good. Maybe he can slide into bones as DMs. Yeah. Mind you, he did spray him at the Ryder Cup, so maybe that's...
00:31:54
Speaker
Maybe they have beef. Disappointments as well. I think we'll go through these quickly. Ram. He didn't seem himself this week, Jay. I don't know what you thought. His interview, he seemed really almost guilty. I don't know. It wasn't the John Ram I knew this week. Yeah, he was, he was off. I, he, um,
00:32:18
Speaker
I don't know, he's usually pretty confident, confident lad in his interviews and whatnot, but he just didn't seem, you're right, he didn't seem himself and played some at pretty average golf by his high standards. The other one is Hideki. I was so in on Hideki this week. There's nothing to really say, but I saw him in basically everyone's picks. So there was a lot of people that got burnt by him.
00:32:47
Speaker
Did you do better? Yeah, I did. He was my second behind Scotty A. I thought he was a huge, huge chance, and then shot like 6-7 over first round, and then that mask is gone, but yeah. Again, it was, yeah, pretty disappointing to see him play like that.
00:33:10
Speaker
yeah brooks was the other one he he'd been struggling up to it but i just thought classic brooks it's a major he'll he'll flick a switch yeah me too the putter was cold and yeah i think it sort of caught up with him this week that he he can normally flick a switch but i just think his game wasn't there i'm pretty sure he was shooting sort of most high 70s before this event so
00:33:40
Speaker
Yeah, I thought the same. I thought it was Brooks. He'll be in the mix 100%. Actually, I had no doubt he'd be in the mix, even after listening to his presses. And I thought he'd be right there again, just making a pig of himself. But it wasn't to be. And another disappointment for me is Hovland. He also hasn't been hitting the ball well, but then he should have won under first round. And I thought maybe he's
00:34:08
Speaker
but he's playing rubbish and I don't know, it seems pretty rogue changing his swing coach after winning a FedEx Cup. Yeah, I was going to back him to miss the car, so he didn't disappoint me because I thought he was going to disappoint me, but it just sucks to see him play like this because I thought, I honestly thought he'd be number one by the end of the year after I had a cup.
00:34:37
Speaker
And it just hasn't worked out. He said he's a naturally curious person. So he's obviously gone searching to try and get even better, which is always a bit dangerous. Yeah. And so obviously, yes, disappointing, but I sort of saw it coming. He got to 4-under at one point. So I don't know how he even managed that. Even in his interviews, before the 4-under missed the cut at like 10-over or something.
00:35:08
Speaker
Yeah, and even before his interviews, there was nothing confident about him in the interviews. He was last on the range the last two days before the tournament, never a good sign. No, it's not. It's to tell you what, there's a few big Europeans in those disappointments, isn't there? Rory, Ram and Hovland, probably the ones that killed the Americans at the Ryder Cup. That's a good point.
00:35:38
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Yeah, apparently Vic was out on the range on Wednesday and they closed at 6 and then they had to get the fuddlights out for him. Yeah, I saw a photo of that. Tough. Hopefully you can find something because it golfs so much better when Vic's involved. Yeah, apart from that, is there any other players you want to mention? I've got a few things I want to talk about but...
00:36:09
Speaker
Oh pretty cool story with the amateur playing with Tiger in his final round. That's some weird shit he was doing in the Bartlett cabin.
00:36:30
Speaker
How awkward is the Bartlett camera? I would not want to be in here. Handing that jacket over. It looks like an awful kind of just awkward little two old men and then three guys.
00:36:46
Speaker
Because apparently what happens is they basically get like a little nudge, like, hey, time to get out of here. And I think he took it very literally and was sort of just waiting and like looking at the person like, oh, when are you going to tell him to fuck off sort of thing? That's why he was going in the big side eyes. Some pretty funny videos of that going around. Yeah, it's class.
00:37:11
Speaker
uh and then when he was getting interviewed and they asked him about tying a handyman note or something looks over his left shoulder then just goes nah
00:37:24
Speaker
I'm sure he's not making it up. I definitely must have handed a note. There's a few lies of Augusta this week, actually, which makes me move on to Zach Johnson, ZJ, the Pelican. There is no way that was not directed at the crowd. I don't know if you saw that. Yeah, I did a clap again after a triple, which I can get around to Zach Johnson.
00:37:51
Speaker
that guy's such a flog and i've always kind of thought he was a bit of a tool and then watching full swing he's doing those greasy phone calls jt i want you on my team man and j tizzle baby calling jt tizzle grow up um and the thing that made me laugh is he just denied it all instead he was saying f off to himself
00:38:20
Speaker
clearly just looking up at the crowd. He's just, he just does his reputation no good. Just a minute, be like, yeah, I told him to fuck off. I was a bit hot on the collar. Like I'm going to miss the cut now. I don't want to get clapped for a triple. It felt very sarcastic. You know, it's all I need to say. And people respected that. And he just decides to sort of deny it. And
00:38:43
Speaker
Yeah. I don't think we need to talk too much about it, but it was just, it was pretty embarrassing. He, he's, yeah, he's a power kid. And the other thing I want to talk about, Jake, is I want to yay a few people have sent into our Instagram asking about the Jade AFit. How, how did you feel about that vest he had on round two? Honestly, I don't, I mean, it's, it's out there, but I don't mind it at all. Like.
00:39:10
Speaker
I'd wear it. Yeah, I don't mind that. He didn't really look like a golfer, but he looked kind of scarred. He looked like a, there was a twee, looked a bit like a cigarette packet. I thought it was quite funny.
00:39:27
Speaker
And then I think what made it bad was he had like a hat paired with it that's just plaster with logos. If he'd had something, it's just a nice simple one logo on the front. I think it would have really complimented it. And he had the nice glasses on. Yeah, I don't think it was too bad. The fact that Guster turned and told him to take it off was a bit rough. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I thought it was sweet.
00:39:55
Speaker
We probably need to wrap it up soon, but I've just got a couple of things that we need to go through. And that's, Cal just wanted me to make sure that I talked about opening the ceremonial tee shots and Gary Pla. Yeah, I don't get around the ceremonial tee shot. I'm pretty keen for them to cancel that. I think it was a lot better when Arnie was there because everyone loves him and he's just,
00:40:24
Speaker
such a class player but now i don't know it just doesn't feel the same like who are you going to start rolling out when these guys kick the bucket like Nick Foudo and Ben Crenshaw i don't know i don't know i don't really have i have any strong opinions on it but yeah and then i think
00:40:48
Speaker
Cal and I were talking about how... Actually, sorry, sorry. On the topic of these old blokes, how about Greg Norman to understand what I say, he's got a sore right hand. I didn't see that. He said his right hand is sore from shaking so many hands, it'll gust when people congratulate him. Oh my God. Brother.
00:41:16
Speaker
I can't, Greg Norman might be my most hated golfer, a head of Gary Plow. Um, even the fact he followed Rory around trying to get his attention grow up. Apparently he was following him in his practice around trying to get attention and Rory hit one way right on five and he was like mocking him and shit. Man.
00:41:45
Speaker
Pretty funny, yeah, to buy a ticket like of like the secondhand resales Yeah, that is good But yeah, I I have no time for that guy. I think he's a toss pot Yeah, and I taught me and Cal were discussing how it is pretty rogue how before the masses and that's some ceremonial tee shot They're just on the range just hitting 50 balls Yeah
00:42:15
Speaker
I saw a few of them get out of their irons. You've got to hit one drive. Or why have you got nine in your hand? Maybe you hit two to warm up. But you're hitting a driver. And then Gary did this sort of like kick after he hit one in the fairway. Yeah. And then we had Butch Harmon in the coverage over here in the UK, Jake. And he was talking about how much bullshit it was that
00:42:44
Speaker
Gary played at 100 press-ups a day or whatever he claimed. It was so funny. It was just calling him out on live TV. He literally, the words he said was BS, which was quite funny.
00:43:01
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Yeah, Cal's also said, can you spray Gary Playa? And apparently Gary Playa was talking to some little kid and was just giving them shit for eating ice cream and saying that they need to replace it with fruit. You don't grub, man.
00:43:22
Speaker
He's just a walking meme. The amount of times we've had to talk about on this podcast. I'm glad he's around for the content. I can't believe people saw him calling out a kid for eating an ice cream. I don't know that. That was outrageous and also pretty funny. Yeah. Any parting words on the Masters? It's just good to have major golf bars.
00:43:52
Speaker
I say, I say it quite a lot to my mates and stuff. That's my watching majors is my favorite sporting event out of anything to watch really. So great to have it back. I don't know, but it comes and then all of a sudden it's gone too. So yeah, hopefully it's a very good one.
00:44:12
Speaker
I agree completely. It's so good to see everyone back and I just hope... Yeah, I just hope that it just shows the golf world that we need to sort this shit out because they just need to be playing together more often. It helps when you have such a good stage for it. I thought it's best I've seen Augusta play in such a long time. It was firm. It was outstanding.
00:44:38
Speaker
Apart from, I would have liked to close the finish, but apart from that, it was just such an awesome week. I watched probably 30 hours ago for this week. I watched a heap. Um, and yeah, just loved it. Just before you go, Jay, I need to hear about your, your weekend and in particular, the subject of pigeon racing. Can you, can you just give the listeners a bit of a gauge on what happened there?
00:45:05
Speaker
Yeah so I've gone up to Timaru for the weekend for a memorial golf tournament for one of the lads my cricket team's grandad and we've played the tournament and gone out in Timaru and we're in we're in a pub called Hector Blacks and we're just sitting around these couches and this bloke with a cheese cutter on and a big trench coat comes walking over you've always into punting yeah don't mind a punt and then
00:45:36
Speaker
Um, there you go as well. I've got some pigeons running. Cry-shifter Tim Aro tomorrow. Do you always want to have a punch on them? They're all kind of, kind of shook and worried, like wondering what he was on about. Do you have any odds? Oh, I don't really have odds, but I've got form lines and he sits down with us on the clipboard and reads out all the pigeon names. Itchy Pekka, Maverick.
00:46:05
Speaker
far left and goes through their form lines, tells us a couple of them that didn't end up coming home.
00:46:14
Speaker
Ashburn into Timaru's sprint half in the week before. Anyway, it was pretty funny and we all ended up having a punt on the pigeons. He said we'd get a phone call with our pigeon one in shock hour and none of us got a phone call and he's probably away laughing with 150 bucks in his pocket. I have so many questions.
00:46:43
Speaker
Done quite a lot of pigeon racing research, actually, since you told me. So, oh, right. So say 12, 12 go. Is it often that, you know, they'll end up with 10 over the finish line and two will just be AWOL? I think most of them, most of the time they will come home, but a couple don't. Who knows where they end up? That's outrageous. Might end up in Nelson or something.
00:47:14
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There's a, I tell you what, Jake, there's a lot of pigeons in London, so I might have to start sort of scoping them out, just seeing what one's up fast. I might have to catch one and become a pigeon trainer. I don't know how you train a pigeon, but you might have to get on that illegal gambling black market for pigeons and start making some money. Yeah, maybe that could be my niche.
00:47:44
Speaker
Yeah, I'd love to know how they know where they're going. I really do. But back in the day, they used to deliver posts and shit, didn't they? Yeah, they used to go to war for stuff. Yeah, so they must... Yeah, I think we'd probably be delving into areas that we've had unqualified for. Yeah, I found that pretty hilarious that you lost 20 bucks on a pigeon on your Saturday night. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:13
Speaker
But yeah, I don't know. I hope that's the lowest thing I'll ever be punting on. Mate, I think that takes the cake. I don't know what. Especially given that there's a pub and there's no sort of form of sager. I think the only thing that might surpass is like if you're in Fiji or something and they're doing those like toad races. They're not great.
00:48:41
Speaker
You probably wouldn't want to be losing 20 bucks on those either. But yeah, I saw that, I actually, I did some Googling and I saw that on the NZ Herald that someone paid 2.9 mil for a pigeon once. So profitable game. Was bound to three, which I think made it faster. Maybe it just knows its way home. Good pigeons up in the Northern Hemisphere maybe.
00:49:10
Speaker
Yeah. Currently up when he's like, when he see these goes off an hour 58, but about two hours 20 minutes suddenly. Oh, that's class. Okay. I think we need to wrap this up.
00:49:28
Speaker
Thanks a lot for stepping in, Jake. I hope you enjoyed it. Great job tonight, mate. Obviously, probably pretty special getting on for Masters Week. It's a lot easier than commenting on how the Valspar went.
00:49:45
Speaker
No, you did a great job. Thanks for helping out. Listeners, we'll be back next week. I'm going to talk a bit about my golf. I had a tournament on the weekend. Cal will be coming back from the Hillary. So probably a bit of dribble about our own games next week, which will be a bit of fun.
00:50:06
Speaker
Yeah, I hope you enjoyed the Masters Week. Getting our DMs, throw plenty of takes at us. Like, share, subscribe. Thanks again, Jake. We'll catch you next week. Yeah, thanks for having me. Good luck to the boys at the Hellary and go to the blue side.