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Episode 60 - “Have you done over or under 10.5 Shoeys in your life”
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JC gets a second cap on the pod and Cal returns from the abyss. They chat LIV, Shoeys, Nelly Korda and a host of dribble.
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Transcript
Introduction and Return
00:00:15
Speaker
Hello and welcome back to the Off The Tips Podcast. Jeez, it feels good to be saying that once again. It's been a while since I've graced the pod and the boys kind of did a
00:00:28
Speaker
a great job a couple of weeks ago and then we've had a bit of a hiatus and AC will be having a hiatus as well today. But his brothers come back for his second cap, not just a one cap player, JC, welcome back to the off the tips pod mate. You did a great job last time.
JC's Life in Dunedin
00:00:45
Speaker
Hey Cal, yeah, good to be back on. I thoroughly enjoyed my first stint actually. Pretty nice getting on Masters week, but happy to jump back on.
00:00:57
Speaker
Yeah, I'm sure being at Uni in Dunedin, you're not as well around the last few weeks golfers you probably were with the Masters, but we'll try our best here. What's been happening, mate? How's Dunedin? I bet that student flat's feeling pretty fucking cold at the moment. Yeah, started to get pretty up there now. Today was pretty freezing actually.
00:01:23
Speaker
What's been happening, not heaps, you're being pretty busy with uni, but now getting a bit quieter, kind of leading into exams, but as well. Have you ventured out onto the golf course at all, or is that frozen solid? I've played a few nines. I've got a Dunedin student Ambrose tournament on Friday, which is exciting. The boys don't love
00:01:52
Speaker
It's kind of like a once a month thing and the boys are looking to go one better. We can second my monthly out St Claire. So hopefully you go one better. I'm sure you boys prepare for that pretty diligently.
Live Adelaide Golf Event
00:02:08
Speaker
Yeah, plenty of raps. Well, mate, since we last, since the, well, not me, but since you guys last recorded a pod, you know, plenty, plenty has happened in the world of Carlful.
00:02:20
Speaker
I've got a few notes down here, things we can talk about. But like, just kicking off, did you see the scenes of Live Adelaide? It looked like a bit of a circus. What chaos that was. Yeah, that looked like a great, great crowd to be in, be involved with. I actually did watch a little bit when I saw it was kind of getting close up the end there. Got on the live stream and watched a bit.
00:02:49
Speaker
you know there's yellow going on and people's backswing is down the stretch and stuff but i don't know did anyone in your office were they on the grounds or yeah we had a few we had a guy on the grounds and he said yeah it was pretty it was pretty like a great week but yeah it got pretty chaotic but on the whole i think it was all pretty good i think there was just you know like classic with 94 000 people there i think you're gonna have a
00:03:15
Speaker
percentage of people that get on the loudmouth soup and just start barking like in the tournament. But on the whole, I think it was great. Would live Adelaide be an event that you'd maybe put on a list of things you want to go to? Yeah, I definitely would, I think.
00:03:35
Speaker
never watched live golf so definitely something I want to want to want to do and obviously there's a lot of the best players on the live tour now so I think it's definitely something I'd want to do. I had a couple mates text me actually saying we should head over next year but we'll see how that goes. Circuit and a couple of the other golf courses around Adelaide I know Royal Adelaide's an absolute beauty and then and then maybe rip and tear at the Grange
00:04:04
Speaker
Would you be in the mosh when Fisher is just getting about his work? If I'd had a schedule, I think I probably would be getting involved there. Well, you know, like I'm planning on being there next year. So hopefully, you know, get the, I'll probably be on the tools though. So that's, that's, you know, it's a bit, it's great. Like a bit of a big, you know, a bit of a mood killer if you just wanted to go.
00:04:33
Speaker
go cut some shapes to losing it. And that mosh put out the back wall. Get up on the party hole. But, you know, yeah, on the whole, it looked like a great week. Brendan Steele winning it, you know, a touch of a mood killer. That guy's just a, you know, a bit of a journeyman. But, you know, rip a GC. Getting the team event are obviously great for the home fans, which leads me to, you know, asking you
00:05:01
Speaker
What is your stance on doing showies being a younger gentleman? I don't mind it. I've done a couple, but no, I don't mind it. What would your overall unders be? 20 and a half showies. Would you have done more than that? No, not more than that. 10 and a half?
00:05:30
Speaker
It's probably a pretty good line. We had a red card where there was a red card last year, there were plenty of shoeys going on. Look, I don't know what's kosher and shoeys having, you know, it might surprise the listeners but never dabbled in a shoey. What's kosher is it as simple as is it your own shoe and then it's back on your
00:05:59
Speaker
back on your feet or is that, you know, are we sharing shoes? I can't imagine that's a... I can't imagine a hygiene issue. You're going out your own shoe and then you slip it back on and you've got one wet sock for the night. Yeah, fuck that. That's what I found. That could lead to like frostbite in Dunedin. Do you reckon anyone on Castle Street had to go
00:06:29
Speaker
go down to the hospital afterwards and get some toes amputated. That would be a story to tell, but I'd say that'd be pretty unlikely. Especially, you know, those poor uni students that are running those warehouse canvas shoes. I can't imagine those present steppers. What do you reckon the best shoe to do a shoey out of would be?
00:06:59
Speaker
um i reckon something that's a bit a bit of a bow tie yeah like a john ball yeah yeah yeah maybe maybe one of those white gun boots that you know the the boys in the factory the meat factories wear that that could be a good shoe to get some get some pus down your gullet out of but anyway i i digress and then
00:07:28
Speaker
Onto the next live event this week, which was won by Brooks Kepka, who is, you know, times has run to perfection almost, leading into the PGA, which will be his next start.
Golf Highlights: Kepka and Korda
00:07:42
Speaker
Do you think that'll, like, we're going to do a PGA preview pod over the weekend, but do you think that'll be sending shivers down some blokes on the PGA to his spine, seeing Brooks Kepka hit this kind of form before a PGA championship?
00:07:58
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. I thought he was going to be right in the mix at the Masters. He wasn't, but now he's found a bit of form too. I got no doubt he'll be in the mix at the PGA, going to go back to back again. He's been back to back at the PGA. I think he's going to do it twice, and I would not be surprised at all if he did. No, not at all.
00:08:27
Speaker
I actually wrote a column today saying that I think he should be the favorite and you could maybe take your eyes. Well, not take your eyes off Scotty Scheffler, but I think if you're heading into a PGA championship and Brooks Kepke has found some kind of form, fuck, he's going to be pretty tough to beat. That guy just plays those courses that are coined, well, the events that are coined the toughest better than any other bloke in the field.
00:08:57
Speaker
I'm not really sure if I want to see him win, but like, man, you have to just respect his mentality and his ability when he gets to these tough golf tournaments. Yeah, you have to just, you kind of got to love the way he just fronts up just four times a year and just gets it done really, but I don't know.
00:09:22
Speaker
I didn't like him for a while there though. I'm actually a fan of Brooks now. I wouldn't mind seeing him win, but I don't want him to get too far ahead of Rory either though. Yeah, fuck. If you branch that out to six, that is... I think... I'm starting to think six is probably Rory's number, I think. Yeah, I agree.
00:09:48
Speaker
just on that do you think you can still call like if say brooks it's all seven done and kepka ends up on seven rory ends up on five do you do you say that is brooks kepka higher in the record books than rory like is he a better player um i think it's hard to know with now the live tour like
00:10:18
Speaker
kind of how do you weight those wins and how are they going to be weighted in the future compared to a PGA Tour win? Yeah, obviously majors ultimately is the ones to get, but I think it's so hard to know, I reckon. Yeah, it is. You're right, because Rory could... Rory will end up on 30 plus PGA Tour wins and... Well, Brooks could easily end up on
00:10:49
Speaker
15 live wins, but you know, it's like you said, it's hard. But man, like now that I've like watching those live events over the last few weeks, man, the fields are way better than what the PGA Tour are throwing up. It's like, it's pretty concerning stuff. Yeah, Derek and if they Derek and if they go to 72 holes, it's like pretty safe to say that they're kind of
00:11:17
Speaker
almost like probably on the PJ2's level? Yeah, I'd say so. I'd say like the depth still isn't there and obviously you don't have the history but in terms of man for man, it's pretty hard to argue otherwise, isn't it? Yeah, 100%. The PJ2 have like two guys that are just considerably better than everyone else and then
00:11:46
Speaker
Um, well, like live, have a whole bunch of those guys that would, I'd say be on a similar, well, maybe not Sheffler level, but that'd be on a similar level to, you know, Rory that consist consistently be top 10 players in the world as what I'm trying to say, like your smits, your arms, your kepkas, like, but my, the, the most impressive thing over the past few weeks is has been Nelly Korda, like,
00:12:14
Speaker
Five wins in her past five starts, one of them a major. It's pretty hard to argue that she's the best player on the planet at the moment. If you're going on numbers, she's Scottie's four from his last five and she's five from five. So, man, it's impressive to see just two absolute champions dominating the game.
00:12:42
Speaker
Yeah, it's crazy. I don't watch a lot of the women's golf, but I mean, five women's are seriously impressive in a row, including a major. And Nellie tees it up again this week to make it six, which she's every chance at doing. I think Nancy Lopez and Anna Kasoramstam are the only other players that have won six from six starts. So, man, I can't
00:13:09
Speaker
I'll be tuning in intently. It's actually Blockbuster TV if she's in the mix on Sunday chasing down this record. I actually can't wait. And it's a big event that Cognizant found this cup. I think eight of the world's top ten are there. It's going to be proper. Are there majors the week after the men's majors? Yeah. So we've got the US Women's Open and then the PGA shortly after.
Kiwi Golfer's Major Debut
00:13:39
Speaker
And it's a, it's a really good time, you know, to get back on the podcast grind with all these great events coming up. But, you know, before we move into some more lighthearted stuff and, and, and head back off the golf course, uh, I just wanted to mention Kazuma Kabori, uh, obviously the North Cantabria and invited to the PGA due to his win at the, well, due to him topping the,
00:14:08
Speaker
PGA Tour of Australasia's Order of Merit. It got handed out last year as well to David McEloozy. Man, it's pretty cool to see a guy that was an amateur in October is making his maiden major championship start at the second major of the year. And man, I was on a press conference to him the other night and he's pretty unflappable.
00:14:38
Speaker
got all the right tools to have an unbelievable career. And hopefully, you know, it starts, starts this week or next week. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's real cool to have a, have another Kiwi on the scene. Cause obviously we don't get many, many playing around the top, the top leagues, but especially to have someone that young, what is he 20 tools up again?
00:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, so have someone that young from New Zealand playing in a major is pretty special It's just happened all so quickly like in what I like the most about him is he he just knows how to win like admittedly doing it on the Aussie tour is completely different than
00:15:23
Speaker
doing it on either the DP or Liv or PGA tour. But once you get in those positions, you've still got to take them. And he did that three wins in a season on any tour is pretty outstanding stuff. AC and I have talked about it all the time, how good his putting is. And he was saying that he wants to see where his game's at at one of these things, see how it compares. You don't get a lot of opportunities
00:15:53
Speaker
to be able to do that against the best in the best. So like, it'll be interesting to see how he comes back and how he turns up at this thing. And I believe that off the tips alumni Tyler Wood will be on the bag for him at this, at the PGA.
PGA Championship Speculations
00:16:13
Speaker
So, you know, maybe we can pull some strings and get some caddy tails a bit after the PGA. Yeah, imagine if he
00:16:23
Speaker
He got the luck of the draw and ended up like that amateur at the Masters and ended up with Tiger or something like that. Or imagine, obviously a log shot, but imagine how cool that would be. Yeah, it would be. But also imagine if he
00:16:43
Speaker
He turns into the Michael Block story of the PGA. Just saying that that is disrespecting Kazuma massively by saying that. And he is on a completely different level to that guy. But what do you reckon we're going to get from the Block Party this year?
00:17:12
Speaker
Yeah, are we going to need a block party at Valhalla or not? Nah, I think he's going to chop it. Not that I know how he's going or anything, but I hope he chops it. Yeah, well said, man. I just, I can't cop that guy's, the way that guy conducts himself around the golf course, just how he acted like every shot was a surprise last year was just like,
00:17:40
Speaker
Yeah, knock on these five footers and kind of stand there looking around them. Like you are clearly a good player mate, like just get on with it. But did you actually, before I forget, did you see all that carry on at the Zurich Classic with Lowry and McElroy? Yeah. Marching Band's belting us Sweet Caroline, which AC, that'd be a tough scene for AC. He hates that song.
00:18:11
Speaker
That was absolute carry-on, eh? That was, I don't know, that was so American bit of that carry-on and then they got those belts out and poor Shane Lowry couldn't get his custody in it. Taking me back to the WWE days, I thought that was
00:18:35
Speaker
the big show in Ray Mysterio, just a hell of a sell. That's pretty much all there is to cover about the Gulf, well off the top of my head anyway. The ladies haven't come into this with a whole heap of a run sheet.
00:18:53
Speaker
I want to move on to just some light playoff holes. Maybe we can talk about the previously gone Hillary Cup. But before we do that, JC, I want to hear if there's any tales from Castle Street. Have you got any yarns, maybe a follow up for the listeners on your pigeon gambling debut? We never heard anything on the pigeon results. You've been fleece day.
00:19:23
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. They didn't post any results of that race on Facebook. I noticed they posted some last weekend, some results for a race, but none of ours. Was your pigeon included in the results last week, the one you punted on? Yeah, I think it sucks.
00:19:52
Speaker
Pretty solid form line. Yeah, I don't know. I would love to know how it went in the race beforehand. Yeah, wetted. Yeah. Well, that would be good to know, especially if it won. Yeah, and a few creatures out in Timaru. Not too many stories.
00:20:23
Speaker
Didn't drink last weekend, so not a heap going on. Got a red card this Saturday, which involves going to the zoo at the Highland this game, so might be, could be some yarns coming out of that.
00:20:38
Speaker
Oh yeah, well maybe we have to get you back on next week. Might have to do a showy. What's the zoo like at the heart of those games nowadays? Because you see that old footage, it's clearly not the same as it was at Carrowsbrook, but is it still pretty loose? Yeah, it's good for the New Zealand Darby's. So the zoo's only really for
00:21:07
Speaker
If you're not a first year and you're there, it's kind of frowned upon and we're a bunch of third years going, which is kind of the point of the red card. It's supposed to be a little bit crook, but it's a bunch of first years. If it's not a New Zealand derby, it's pretty shit, but if it's a New Zealand team, the Crusaders are not sick.
00:21:29
Speaker
Oh, that'll be a proper Darby. Yeah, two South Island teams. Hopefully that's all right. What sort of behaviour unfolds in the zoo? There's quite a few fight videos came out this year, actually. That's not what we needed. Well, mate, you'd be pleased to
00:21:57
Speaker
see that your blue boy's got the job done in Rotorua a couple of weeks back. It was just some of the great scenes on a golf course anywhere. I'm led to believe that the blue side hoisting the Hillary Cup. Yeah, look like a great week as it always is.
00:22:22
Speaker
Quite a comfortable one in the end, wasn't it? I saw up until the singles and then saw that you won by two or three points. Yeah. Mate, we won. Once a Blue member always a Blue member, mate. Hopefully I'll be back sometime soon. What a week. I'll talk to
00:22:49
Speaker
Look, I'm sure AC would love to be able to break this down and I'm sure you ask a few more questions, but the blue skipper myself, you know, encountered some health concerns and was in and out of hospital. So it was, it was a monumental display by the big fella. Also, also went on to an MVP I believe too. Yeah. Like you wouldn't read about it. It's just, you've heard of Jordan's flu game.
00:23:18
Speaker
But have you heard of the blue skipper's flu Hillary cup you have now? I jumped on one of those live videos and asked for an update on your throat and you told me it looked like your knees after falling off a skateboard or something. Yeah, that's pretty similar to what it looked like. I had strep throat. I probably need to start licking toilet seats.
00:23:46
Speaker
What went on? What went on off the course at the Hillary this year? Well, we had the ramfully shield, which was, you know, look like that'll continue. But I'm, I'm firmly, I had dinner with Monty and Cindy last week and we're firmly kind of in the camp that we need to, we need to change the beverage. Like it's called the ramfully shield because you have to drink a box of ramfellies. But, um,
00:24:12
Speaker
Mate, like, the, the ram fillies were just probably, like, the most disgusting piss I've put in my gut, say. It was so grim. Yeah, they're pretty crook. I don't know if you're dammed. I, um, for a, like, a Hall's cricket team initiation, it's just a one-off game against another Hall.
Humorous Anecdote: Drinking Challenge
00:24:36
Speaker
And they put, um, put a box of ram fillies in a bucket of boiling water.
00:24:43
Speaker
you did buffer it hot around furloughs and that was just disgusting. That stuff has so much yeast in it I'm surprised it didn't turn into all over sourdough after being in hot water. It was iced food instantly actually and basically run the same too. That's so tough to see. Mate, do you have any golf
00:25:11
Speaker
Actually, sorry, when's your Ambrose tournament? Friday. How have the reps been? There's been enough nine-hole rounds, I think. I purchased the 3-iron for the bag off Marketplace, a little tightless TMB. I don't know if I'm going to be able to hit it, but I'm able to see how that goes. Could be a good play on a frozen golf course. Might be like hitting a harder on an ice rink.
00:25:44
Speaker
Apparently, it's supposed to be a bit windy on Friday. Oh, right club in the back there. Well, mate, do you have any parting words for the listeners? We won't drag this out any longer than it needs to be. I'm pretty sure we spoke about Shoeys for eight minutes.
00:26:04
Speaker
Well guys, it was great to be back. JC, thanks for jumping on it at such short notice. We really appreciate it. Hope you stay warm and illness free down in Dunedin.
00:26:20
Speaker
Cheers,
Conclusion and Teaser
00:26:21
Speaker
mate. Cheers, guys, for tuning in. AC will be back on the weekend for a PGA Championship preview, so looking forward to that. And as always, like, share, and subscribe. We know we're a bit of a slack on the posting and the uploading of pods, but we're back to ripping from now on. So appreciate you tuning in, and we'll catch you all next week. Why didn't you just go home? That's your home!