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Episode 67: Australian Team for World Mountain and Trail Running Championships announced!

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Welcome to Episode 67 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This episode is hosted by Brodie Nankervis and Vlad Ixel, focusing on the big news of the week, the announcement of the Australian team for the World Mountain and Trail Running Championships. Listen in as Brodie and Vlad give an overview of what they have been up to the last couple of weeks, including Vlad's recent win at the Goldfields Pipeline Marathon 50km and Brodie’s experience at the World Orienteering Championships. We finish the episode with coverage of some domestic trail races, and an aussie in action at the WMRA cup in France.

Results

The Guzzler: https://www.theguzzlerultra.com.au/2025-results/

Goldfields Pipeline marathon: https://my.raceresult.com/341290/

Boyne Valley 50km: https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=398211

WMTRC Team Annoucement: https://www.athletics.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/2025-World-Mountain-and-Trail-Running-Championships-Team.pdf

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Transcript

Introduction and Guest Introduction

00:00:00
Peak Pursuits
Hello and welcome to episode 67 of the Peak Pishers podcast. My name is Brodie and today I'm joined

Vlad's Race Success

00:00:09
Peak Pursuits
by Vlad. Vlad, how are you going?
00:00:10
Vlad
Yeah, not doing too bad. um I got some good results from a race on the weekend, so I'm pretty happy.
00:00:17
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, on top of the world. There's a little bit of a cash grab, which sounds good. and We'll get into that in a little bit.

Episode Structure Overview

00:00:22
Peak Pursuits
um We've got the boys on this week. I know the girls were on last week, so um I think we're going to struggle to live up to them, but we'll see what we can do.
00:00:30
Peak Pursuits
um So we've got a good episode. We're going to catch up with what Vlad's been up to. We'll catch up with what I've been up to. ah cat's out of the bag and the team for the World Trail and Mountain Running Champs has been announced. So we'll go over that and talk a little bit about it.
00:00:49
Peak Pursuits
um And then we've got some results to cover at the end.

Kalgoorlie Race Highlights

00:00:52
Peak Pursuits
um so yep should be fun um but yeah Vlad we might start with what you've been up to because you were racing again at the weekend I saw a few comments in the Strava people saying it's Sunday Vlad must be racing um tell us about it what were you doing
00:01:07
Vlad
Yeah, did the 50k out in Kalgoorlie. So about an hour flight from Perth or a six, seven hour drive. um I did that race in 2021, like during COVID when you couldn't really travel anywhere.
00:01:21
Vlad
um So yeah, i thought, yeah, I'd go back. They've put up a good prize money as well. They've had They have $2,000 for the 50K and the marathon winners.
00:01:33
Vlad
Kind of goes 2000 and then second place is 500. So there's a big drop between first and second. But then they also have a $500 bonus for breaking the records for the 50K or the marathon.
00:01:46
Vlad
um So yeah, went there with one of the guys that I trained with. Actually, he drove there, but and he was doing the marathon, Carlos.

Race Weekend Logistics

00:01:54
Vlad
but we were able to run together. He broke the course record for the marathon and I got the win in the 50K in the course record. So yeah, good weekend. Pretty, you know, still pretty full on flying out there like early on Saturday and then coming back really late on Sunday.
00:02:11
Vlad
um so yeah, pretty full on weekend. But yeah, got to put in a good effort, like, you know kind of a race effort that didn't, Affected my training too much. I had one day taper leading up to it. Just did a 30-minute job on Saturday.
00:02:27
Vlad
um Raced on Sunday. And then yesterday, Monday, pretty much went back to normal training, about an hour 15 worth of running. And legs feel good.
00:02:38
Vlad
So yeah, win weekend.
00:02:42
Vlad
um So yeah, it was definitely fun.
00:02:42
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, fantastic.
00:02:44
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, cool.

Race Conditions Analysis

00:02:45
Peak Pursuits
And um the the race itself, you were saying just before to me that it was it's like relatively flat, but still like a bit tough underfoot, so a bit of gravel and a bit of trail.
00:02:57
Peak Pursuits
um So the speed that you were running was pretty good?
00:02:59
Vlad
Yeah, i mean, um it's not like the quickest course in the world. It's um you drive out about 42K out of Kalgoorlie and then you run back into town. um The 50K is the same course as the marathon, except at 34K, we do an 8K loop and then go back to the course of the marathon.
00:03:19
Vlad
um But yeah, it's pretty much a bit of elevation, um kind of like rolling gravel roads. um well There's some rocky sections and some trail sections are a bit more s sandy and slow.
00:03:35
Vlad
But yeah, overall, fairly quick compared to trail running. I guess it's in between trail and road running. I did wear my road running shoes, but it was like on the kind of on the edge between trail running and road running.
00:03:48
Vlad
um A lot of people had trail running shoes for that.
00:03:49
Peak Pursuits
Yeah. Yeah,
00:03:51
Vlad
um
00:03:52
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah
00:03:52
Vlad
yeah think The sandy bits are probably like the ones that really slow you down. um The rocks were okay, but yeah, it's a pretty quick course. um It's pretty much you get a headwind the whole way, which is not that fun.
00:04:05
Vlad
um And it's really cold. I think it was about two degrees when we started. um So yeah, posted a picture of me in gloves and arm warmers. And then you're in this desert, kind of read red desert background. So people are wondering why I'm wearing gloves.
00:04:20
Vlad
um But yeah, two degrees at the start. But then yeah, once we got to the finish, it was probably around 15, 16, so perfect running condition. um But yeah, not the fastest course for sure.
00:04:32
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, and and you wouldn't expect it. don't know, when people think of Kalgoorlie, they probably don't think of it as being cold. But it makes sense of this time of year, I guess.
00:04:41
Vlad
Yeah, exactly. and i mean, during the day, it's nice and warm, but the mornings are like really, really cold. And um they were actually getting some rain um last week there as well. So Lucky it was dry, but yeah, it was pretty windy and cold and yeah, quick running conditions.
00:04:55
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:04:58
Vlad
But um yeah, it's a bit windy.
00:05:01
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah. And was it and your course record that you broke, your own course record, or was it someone else's?
00:05:08
Vlad
Yeah, it was it was. It was my course record from 2021. I guess, yeah, I mean, it's not like an easy place to get to. um
00:05:19
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:05:19
Vlad
So I guess not too many people are ah heading over for for that event. We do support that event with Bix. We send them product. um We've been sending products for the last few years.
00:05:33
Vlad
so it was nice to um be there as well. But yeah, they're kind of local runners with a few people that travel for it.
00:05:36
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, that's cool.
00:05:41
Vlad
um They also have very limited numbers. So I guess they'd like for the marathon and the fifty k because there's a bit of a few cross road crossings along the way. I don't think they want to make it like too big.
00:05:54
Vlad
um The 10K and the half marathons are pretty big events for for that area. And they do get quite a lot of people. um But yeah, the 50K and the marathon, I think, um well, yeah, it was 18 runners um for the 50K.
00:06:10
Vlad
And yeah, for the 50K, there was only 18 runners. So yeah, not ah not too many runners actually go over, but yeah, pretty big event for them, especially especially for the shorter distances.
00:06:17
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, it's cool. Sounds like an interesting one. And nice one for you, I guess, close-ish to home.
00:06:27
Vlad
Yeah.
00:06:27
Peak Pursuits
Not as far as getting to the East Coast.
00:06:29
Vlad
Yeah, for sure. Same time zone as well, which was nice. And um yeah, a few people do drive over, but yeah, I flew over and it was a quick, short one hour flight, which was nice.
00:06:41
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, nice. um And the rest of the week you said it was a relatively

Training for European Races

00:06:45
Peak Pursuits
normal week. Did you get some other normal training in earlier before that?
00:06:48
Vlad
Yeah, so pretty much straight after Gold Coast, I went in try and get as much elevation and technical running as possible. i am flying to Europe exactly in a week next Tuesday.
00:06:59
Vlad
So I got to bank in some elevation in the legs. So yeah, stayed with my two um key sessions, but um the rest was, yeah, just trying to get as much elevation as possible. So actually overall, a pretty good week for me.
00:07:16
Vlad
um You know, got just over 4,500 meters of gain um in 13.5 hours of running.
00:07:22
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah.
00:07:25
Vlad
um So, yeah, was a really good training week and a lot more elevation than pretty much the last three, how five, six weeks. um So, yeah, going to try and get a bit more um elevation this week and then next week will be a lot easier while um'm when i when I actually get to Austria and bank in some longer runs.
00:07:45
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah
00:07:46
Vlad
to try and get ready for a bigger event in in September.
00:07:51
Peak Pursuits
Yeah,

World Championships Preparation

00:07:52
Peak Pursuits
yeah. That's a a good segue, I guess, into it's a race that we can and we can both announce that we're both doing. and I've heard Jess say a few times on that on the podcast, we're building for a race, which Jess also got selected for the the same race.
00:08:00
Vlad
yeah
00:08:06
Peak Pursuits
We're all doing the short trail and the 45K at the World Mountain and Trail Running Champs in Canfrank. So that's cool.
00:08:17
Peak Pursuits
Going to be all three of us building towards that, I think, We're all in different spots at the moment. where I compare myself to you, Vlad. I get a bit scared that we're each on our own little journey.
00:08:30
Peak Pursuits
um but Are you staying in Europe from Austria when you go across next week or the way into a world challenge?
00:08:36
Vlad
Yeah, exactly. So I'll be there for exactly like 60 days or 61 days, um which I'm really excited about. I only have one race planned, which is in two weeks time.
00:08:48
Vlad
And after that, I will yeah just try and get as much technical running as possible and elevation because the course looks like you know from the pictures and from what I've heard, and maybe we can talk a bit more about it, but it looks to be like a very slow course. um very technical, a lot of like steep uphills and downhills. So the 45K could be ah five and a half to six hour, um ah right which means there'll be a lot of hiking, probably some scrambling and stuff like that. So yeah, it's definitely will have to be pretty specific with the training that I do now. I feel pretty fit, um but very road fit.
00:09:30
Vlad
um So, yeah. But, yeah, I guess, you know, we still have another seven weeks. So, yeah, hopefully I can bank in some very early later.
00:09:40
Peak Pursuits
Yeah. And you get a lot of, Mountain time, are you going around and doing some more of the work for BICs in Europe, like doing that the tour of the races but not running them this time?
00:09:51
Vlad
Yeah, a few less releases this year. Last year, ah well, the last three years have been pretty full on and Europe got pretty expensive.
00:09:59
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:10:00
Vlad
So, Yeah, renting a car, you know, 100 days of Airbnbs, um you know, traveling from race to race every week. It was pretty tiring, expensive, obviously really good marketing for Bix and we saw it with um increase

Brody's Orienteering Experience

00:10:16
Vlad
of sales in Europe.
00:10:18
Vlad
But at the same time, um it's quite a lot, you know, me, my wife and our little daughter. um so yeah, this year we're doing only three expos and, you know,
00:10:29
Vlad
I'll be able to train a bit more and travel a bit less and drive a lot less.
00:10:33
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:10:33
Vlad
and Yeah, the main one is the UTMB Expo, which I feel like has a brand that is in the running space, a lot in the trail running space. We kind of have to be.
00:10:43
Vlad
um And that's a pretty full-on week, and which I probably won't be able to train a crazy amount. But outside of that, hopefully, you knowt knock on wood, I'll be able to yeah really focus on mountain running and and like technical running. So I'd probably move a lot of my ski sessions to being uphill and downhill focused and yeah, try and develop or get some of those skills back.
00:11:10
Vlad
I mean,
00:11:11
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah.
00:11:11
Vlad
I do get a lot of elevation in Perth if I do hill repeats, but it's definitely different than, um, getting 1600 meters of elevation gain in, in the first 2k, which we're going to get ah in the first, sorry, in the 6k, which we're going to get at the race.
00:11:24
Peak Pursuits
ye Yeah.
00:11:28
Vlad
Um, yeah, it's, what about you?
00:11:28
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah.
00:11:31
Peak Pursuits
Something I look forward to.
00:11:32
Vlad
Are you, are you going to try and get some, um, specific training for it?
00:11:39
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, so I've um transitioned now into, I guess, what my prep will look like for World Champs. So a couple of weeks ago, I was at the World Champs for Iron Tearing.
00:11:53
Peak Pursuits
um So I ran the long distance, which was ah on the course was 16K, but we often run a bit further. So I ran about It was just over two hours of racing.
00:12:07
Peak Pursuits
um So, yeah, that was pretty tough. um I think I lost a bit of fitness ah coming coming into that. Like I think I spoke to a few people in like May and April and ah I thought I was still pretty fit.
00:12:25
Peak Pursuits
um And I think that was off the back of like a lot of cycling over the summer. Like I did a lot. Um, and then that sort of tapered off a little bit as, as I did a bit more running as the weather got worse, I got a bit more busy in April and May.
00:12:39
Peak Pursuits
So I did less cycling and I think that started to hit me fitness wise because my running volume was still low. um I started to lose a little bit. Um, so I wasn't probably in as good a shape as I would have liked it at world champs.
00:12:54
Peak Pursuits
Um, but my race was, was pretty good. uh in the circumstances um i came 44th um which is a little bit down on probably what i would have liked to but um yeah i think it was a good result and it was good fun um it was fun in finland and they put on a good event um then hanging out with the team so that was good um and then yeah after that i've traveled i've started traveling so i'm i'm staying in europe until um the trail running champs um traveling around um i'll be doing some training but also some travel um so yeah just uh
00:13:35
Peak Pursuits
eased back in the last week but um i've been up in norway in the lofton islands um and it's super steep up here um which is sort of good training but also just really tough um i haven't done a lot of like climb uh in my build back with my achilles so it's sort of trying to layer that in slowly um so doing some hiking with my lot with my wife, Laura, and um and then doing some running as well.
00:14:04
Peak Pursuits
um And I'm feeling pretty tired. So it's been, I didn't do 150Ks, but I did, I think I did about 50Ks of running and and another 30K of hiking. So for me, that was ah was pretty good. And I think the hiking was still fairly relevant training.
00:14:21
Peak Pursuits
So yeah, and and it's beautiful up here. It's such a fun way to explore um all the mountains and and whatnot. So yeah, so it was a good week of training. off the back and I'm looking forward to it.
00:14:31
Vlad
But technically least speaking, you'd be pretty happy with that course for the world champs. I mean, I guess, yeah, as a bit more of a technical amount.
00:14:37
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, I think so. Like, out I would hope that the technicality here is is higher because it's actually like crazy. Like I went for a flat run and thought like it's hard to know what the trail is going to be like when you're looking at on Strava.
00:14:52
Peak Pursuits
I thought it was mostly going to be gravel with maybe like a little bit of single track and then the maybe i think it was like a k and a half or 2K of single track I was on it was just like roots rocks and the whole trail even though it was like fairly flat it's just like up and down like three or four meters just continually, but like through boulder fields.
00:15:13
Peak Pursuits
It's just so slow.
00:15:14
Vlad
Thank you.
00:15:14
Peak Pursuits
um So, yeah, it's probably good training, but it's just like hard to move through. I think Spain will be maybe slightly less technical than the the really crazy stuff here. I think Norway trails are bonkers sometimes.
00:15:27
Peak Pursuits
um But, yeah, super fun. And and like you said, good but to start into that that more technical running and um get get my body, start getting my body used to it.
00:15:37
Vlad
Yeah, and I mean, I think we're going to talk a little bit more about the team, um but just quickly mean you are in the short trail. together with Billy and b Blake. um So I feel like technically, um you three guys actually like really good in technical running, which is really good, um especially going into a course like this.
00:15:58
Vlad
And um' I've been seeing Billy put in um some technical running and trying to scramble a bit and and build, I guess, that strength. And I'm sure Blake is doing the same thing. um So in in that sense, actually think we could do OK results wise.
00:16:14
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah i guess the for me like looking forward to spain i this year i knew that like my volume it was the number one goal for the year was to get the body right so the volume has had to suffer before that because last year i chased race goals and and they put me in a bad position by the end of the year so i'm going into the world champs knowing that yes i'm probably not going to have my greatest fitness ever or my best fitness that i what what my fitness I would like to have, um but I'm just going to do as much as I can before then in a smart way.
00:16:49
Peak Pursuits
and And I think the course actually does suit my, like I'm good usually over technical terrain. um So I think it suits my strengths. um Unfortunately, I won't have my best fitness and my strengths, but um I'm hoping that I'll be in pretty good shape by then.
00:17:05
Peak Pursuits
um and I can still sort of put on a pretty good performance. and And it's good for me that it's not like a super fast course, because I think if it was a super fast course, it would be hard for me to to be competitive.
00:17:18
Peak Pursuits
um Whereas I think I can do enough of the the technical and the steep ups and downs that I can ah can be somewhat competitive. So yeah, I'm looking forward to that.
00:17:28
Vlad
Yeah, I mean, it makes a massive difference, obviously, being on ah on a technical course. like Anything can happen. you know it's It's very easy to overdo it as well. um So yeah, I think with with the three of you being pretty good on the technical stuff, we actually have a good shot as well, like you know all three of you.
00:17:49
Vlad
are very smart races as well. Like you pace correctly, you you don't really over push, um you run very smart. Not just you, that's Billy and and b Blake as well.
00:18:00
Peak Pursuits
yeah i was going to say that might be the others more than me but hopefully i can i can channel their energy i think this year i will be trying to be a lot smarter because i know that i'll need to be to get through it
00:18:01
Vlad
Yeah,
00:18:11
Vlad
because I feel like we technically could have a really good result um With you know all the world champs that I've done before, there's a very fast start.
00:18:23
Vlad
And a lot of people can blow up on that first uphill.
00:18:23
Peak Pursuits
Yeah. Yeah.
00:18:26
Vlad
um So yeah, I think if we actually run this, we might actually have a good a ah good chance compared to if this was a very runnable course. um It would have been you know very different, but being so technical with so much elevation, just yeah, like you really never know. It's not exactly the fittest person wins all the time or the fastest.
00:18:49
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah
00:18:50
Vlad
There's a lot more

Upcoming Championship Course Challenges

00:18:51
Vlad
elements to it.
00:18:51
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, and I saw um ah Francesco Puppi, he's running long trail for the Italian team.
00:18:51
Vlad
So
00:18:56
Peak Pursuits
He was there checking out the course a few weeks ago um and he was saying that it didn't suit him and he's ah he's a quite strong, fast runner and he said it didn't quite suit his full strengths.
00:19:09
Peak Pursuits
He's going to have a red hot crack at it, but but it's um it's quite tough and technical. So when I saw that, I was i was pretty happy. I was like, that's good news for me.
00:19:18
Vlad
Yeah, and I mean, from what I've heard online is that the short trail is even more technical than the than the long trail. So yeah, it could be a long day out there. It's only 45K, but ah I won't be surprised if this is six hours plus for most of us.
00:19:36
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, I think it's going to be a long one. And I yesterday did an uphill and while I was doing it, i was like, oh, this could be a bit like it. The uphill I did yesterday was was like a hike, but I power hiked it 490 metres in one kilometre.
00:19:54
Peak Pursuits
It's a little less steep than that, but I'm getting the i'm getting the hiking in
00:19:59
Vlad
Yeah, i feel like we're going to have a lot of hiking in that race. So yeah, I'm going to start. Well, started actually doing some hike training and and getting some strength.
00:20:08
Peak Pursuits
Yes.
00:20:09
Vlad
But yeah, i feel like um with that course, we're going to have a lot of hiking.
00:20:15
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah, nice. Well, on that note, should we go over the rest of the team? So we've obviously, yeah we talked a little bit about the short trail open team that Vlad and myself are in. um We might just yell at the girls team and then I'll go through the rest of the other categories. So the ah women's short trail team has got Jess, Jason, Patricia McKibben, Sarah Jane Miller and Mia Noble.
00:20:40
Peak Pursuits
um So they're the four runners there. So jet that's the race that Jess has been talking about and that she's building out to. um So the trail and mountain running champs has two trail races, they're called trail races. So the short trail is the 45k distance and the long trail is 82k distance.
00:21:01
Peak Pursuits
So in the long trail, in the women, we have Nicole Patton, Kelly Angel, Cecilia Mattis and Hannah McRae. um And in the men's team, we have Ben Burgess, Matt Cran, Andrew Gaskell, and Thomas Dade.
00:21:17
Peak Pursuits
So, yeah, again, some really strong teams um across the across the board there in those other three trail teams, I think. What do you think? like ah like I feel like at other trail champs, maybe we haven't had the depths of four runners that have been super strong, but there's some really strong teams in there, particularly the long trail open women's

Australian Team's Prospects

00:21:38
Peak Pursuits
team. That's a really strong team.
00:21:40
Vlad
Yeah, i mean, I'm actually kind of surprised that the team is pretty full considering they're kind of announced um they're only really taking people that could make it to the top 50% of placing in the races.
00:21:53
Peak Pursuits
Mm-hmm.
00:21:55
Vlad
um So, yeah, I mean, like, I think we had strong teams in Thailand and Austria as well. um Again, like, I think maybe Thailand was probably a little bit more a little bit easier for us coming from Australia. Trails won that technical.
00:22:12
Vlad
um Austria was in the middle where this could be a little bit of a little bit outside of a lot of people's um comfort zones. But yeah, it's good to see at least we have a pretty big team.
00:22:23
Vlad
And the long trail being so long, anything can happen. So could be too.
00:22:29
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, that 82k is going to be tough.
00:22:30
Vlad
Yeah. yeah
00:22:33
Peak Pursuits
If we're saying that ours is maybe going to be a five and a half, six hour race, then is going to take a very long time. Yeah,
00:22:40
Vlad
yeah Yeah, I mean, we probably should mention that the... um So the short trail has got, what, 3,600 meters of elevation gain.
00:22:51
Vlad
um forty
00:22:51
Peak Pursuits
yeah I think so. Yeah.
00:22:53
Vlad
41.5K, 3,657 meters of elevation gain, um which is, yeah, lot I don't don't even know if I've done races with that much elevation.
00:23:04
Vlad
I'm just trying to think what Austria had.
00:23:05
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:23:08
Vlad
would like to say was under 3000 for the short trail um for a similar distance. So yeah, it is going to be slow.
00:23:16
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, because if you talk percent, like, and you think about you have to come down as well, that means that the climbs are on average just under 20%. twenty percent Like, for the entire course, you're going at 20%.
00:23:29
Peak Pursuits
Like, that's more like 18, maybe 17 or 18, but that's pretty significant.
00:23:34
Vlad
which means that you're not really going to be ah running too many uphills. Um, not for such a long, yeah.
00:23:40
Peak Pursuits
No, there's going to some steep uphills, some steep downhills, and and then a little bit of runnable in between, but not heaps. I think it's going to be a lot of run hiking.
00:23:48
Vlad
Yeah. Hiking.
00:23:51
Vlad
And the long course is 81.2K with 5,434 meters of elevation gain.
00:24:02
Vlad
So yeah, a little bit less than um if you go by percentage than the short trail.
00:24:06
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:24:07
Vlad
But still, you know obviously, it's going to be technical at the same time. so um Yeah, it's going to be a long day out as well for them.
00:24:15
Peak Pursuits
Thank you.
00:24:16
Vlad
um But yeah, probably some more runnable sections there. And if you do look at that elevation graph that they have on the website, it's probably not as steep.
00:24:37
Peak Pursuits
yeah and then we also have the mountain running distances so there's uh two mountain running distances which is the uphill only so it's the bottom to top race um i don't have the do you have the stats on that one exactly what the yeah yeah yeah just
00:24:51
Vlad
just uphill itself oh sorry just uphill itself yeah um 6.4 k with 990 meters of elevation gain so a thousand approximately a thousand meters um which is pretty runnable i would say like um you know the mount blanc
00:25:08
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:25:11
Vlad
VK is maybe three and a half or 4K long where you get a thousand meters and this is 6.4, six and a half K. um and So yeah, it's could be a little bit quicker than some other VKs.
00:25:28
Vlad
um And then the up and down one is,
00:25:34
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, I've got the up and down here.
00:25:34
Vlad
sorry
00:25:35
Peak Pursuits
We've got 14k or 15k with 820 meters of up and down.
00:25:35
Vlad
Yeah. Yeah. yeah
00:25:43
Peak Pursuits
So yeah, again, probably like a similar steepness to the uphill only, but doing the downhill as well. And I think it's it's it's two loops again.
00:25:53
Peak Pursuits
So it's not one big up and one one big down. It's two of the same loop this time. And I think maybe that was the same in Austria. Was it the same loop or was a different loop?
00:26:04
Vlad
Yeah, and which was really cool because i actually ran through the town and um yeah yeah, you definitely um get a vibe about how hard those races are because they are pretty short.
00:26:15
Vlad
It's only 15K, but they are going at some really fast paces. And then you get to see them on the flat um kind of town section. And yeah, first lap, you see a lot of people that overpush that first lap a bit too much. And Yeah, it definitely makes it a bit more interesting for spectators. Probably not as fun as a runner doing the same lap twice, but at least you know what's coming.
00:26:40
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah yeah and it looks um that's straight out of the the the main sort of part of ah the the the race hub which is the station in can frank um so it looks like it'll be a cool start finish area um so hopefully it'll be like a good vibe good one to watch i reckon that one be
00:27:01
Vlad
yeah and that's um that's on the last day right as well so that's they usually finish with that um which yeah and i mean it's not like a really long race as well um you know winners would probably be pretty close to an hour just over an hour um so yeah it's it'll be pretty fun um fun weekend have you booked your obviously you've booked your flights already um you booked them a while ago
00:27:04
Peak Pursuits
Yes. Yeah. Yeah, we're all finished, so we can just enjoy them supper.
00:27:14
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:27:18
Peak Pursuits
Yes. Yeah.
00:27:28
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah, so I'm staying in two.
00:27:29
Vlad
Yeah, I guess yeah we should mention that we knew about this a few months ago, and then they only announced it today.
00:27:29
Peak Pursuits
yeah
00:27:37
Vlad
So um yeah, there's ah few things and that we had to provide before they can actually announce the team. So we had to do the doping.
00:27:50
Vlad
um learning course, we had to make sure that we signed up to our local um governing athletics club. um there was a few things about uniform um but yeah definitely a bit more to do than ah usual race um you know we have that group chat that gets quite a few messages um so yeah i'm just happy that it's been announced and hopefully all the logistics that are out of the way and we can't we can concentrate on training now
00:28:21
Vlad
um because it is a lot like you know you get those messages throughout the day um for the last last me like the last few weeks and like yeah let's finish all of this let's announce the team and focus on training um but yeah what are you what are you what are your thoughts about this whole lead up to it
00:28:22
Peak Pursuits
Yes, yeah, it's nice.
00:28:40
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, it's been um been interesting, a bit different to teams that I'm used to being in and orienteering. A bit sort of drawn out process a little bit. And yeah, um but i'm umm like you said, I'm um very happy to to be in the team and very happy that it's actually been announced and that I can confirm that I actually am in the team. ah The whole time I've been like, well, it hasn't actually been announced yet. So it's not fully, fully confirmed. Yeah.
00:29:09
Peak Pursuits
yeah it's nice for it to be sort of locked in because I've i've booked all my my plans I'm headed to Canfrank um in early September to sort of check the course and then and then I'll sort of head away spend a few weeks away and then come back for the race um so yeah it's it's nice to have everything locked in now i should we should mention we have um Two team leaders, ah Aaron Knight and Simone Hayes, who are sort of helping out with the team.
00:29:38
Peak Pursuits
um And i i did we did miss going through the uphill team, and the mountain teams there. So that I'll just quickly read them out. um We have in the uphill only race, Fraser Darcy, Ian Best, Nathan Pearce and Michael Kernaghan.
00:29:55
Peak Pursuits
um which is a very strong team of uphill runners. um In the classic distance for the men, it's the same team um except Toby Lang is running the classic instead of Ian Bess, so Fraser, Nathan, Michael and Toby Lang.
00:30:00
Vlad
Thank you.
00:30:14
Peak Pursuits
um In the women, we have Lara Hamilton, Jess Ronan and Emily Bartlett in the uphill. um And then then the same three runners running the classic distance as well. So those girls are running both races.
00:30:26
Peak Pursuits
um And we have a under, is it under 20 or under 23? We have junior category, 20.
00:30:31
Vlad
to answer the question.
00:30:33
Peak Pursuits
twenty um in classic, so they just do the classic distance. um So a classic type race, so up and down. There's is eight kilometres.
00:30:44
Peak Pursuits
um We've got Alec Frankie. I don't know whether Z goes in there. Sorry, Alec. um And Tad Nolan and Robert Shannon.
00:30:55
Peak Pursuits
And in in the women, Emily Rogers and Ruby Smith. um So got some juniors going across as well. um
00:31:01
Vlad
So probably out strong probably our strongest team ever, technically speaking.
00:31:02
Peak Pursuits
So, yeah, yeah.
00:31:06
Vlad
i'm Definitely in the in the up and down and the uphill. I think that.
00:31:10
Peak Pursuits
yeah yeah, yeah. It's very competitive for the team this year for the the mountain distances. um And we know that. Those guys are running really quick as well. we know Fraser's running super fast on the roads.
00:31:24
Peak Pursuits
Ian Best has been doing a lot of uphill stuff. Michael Kernaghan's sort of shown he's ah and fantastic uphill runner. So, yeah, it's going to be it's really cool to see. and And Lara Hamilton, we're going to get to her in a little bit. She's been running in Europe.
00:31:38
Peak Pursuits
um We know Jess Ronan and Lee Barlett from earlier in the year and the Mountain Running Champs. So, yeah, super st strong team.
00:31:45
Vlad
Yeah, I think that, yeah, it was ah definitely a bit stronger than Thailand and Austria. So, yeah, hopefully some good results there. um I think we could mention that Leo was trying to get in as well.
00:31:58
Vlad
um Wasn't selected. I'm not really sure, you know. much about it but i know that he did post about it a few weeks ago that he wasn't selected um so yeah means that there is a lot of depth um in the selection process at least so um
00:32:13
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:32:15
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, definitely. Definitely. Yeah. So um he's obviously been running really well this year. So yeah, for him to miss out, it sort of shows how strong um the team is. So yeah, it's good to have that depth in in across the distances, particularly ah in the mountain running, in that mountain running team is a very strong team.
00:32:33
Peak Pursuits
um But, yeah, I think across the board the teams are really strong. So, yeah, it's it's exciting. um I'm really looking forward to so being over there, um being part of that team um because it it is a super strong team. So,
00:32:46
Peak Pursuits
Now we can ah look forward to our...
00:32:46
Vlad
And yeah we should yeah, we should mention that this is a self-supported team. um
00:32:52
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:32:53
Vlad
So there are few countries that support those teams, like the US, Germany, Spain, um Italy.

Self-Funding Challenges for Athletes

00:33:02
Vlad
the UK, few others that have, you know, full.
00:33:09
Vlad
So pretty much, you know, the athletes get the whole trip covered, where for us, unfortunately, it's not. It's a fully self-supported team. um Yeah, it was a bit sad to see that, you know, even the uniform weren't included um this time.
00:33:25
Vlad
um and know a few runners had some uniform from previous races. um Luckily, I had mine from the Asia Pacific Trail, which were included.
00:33:37
Vlad
i guess Blake and Billy and a few others had them as well. But if you did have to buy the uniform, pretty close to $500 for uniform.
00:33:47
Vlad
um ah for the uniform which I thought it was quite a lot. um And yeah, probably, you know, makes it just a tiny bit harder. um But yeah, what are your thoughts?
00:34:00
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, it's expensive for sure. um Like it coming from orienteering where we do, we do it like it's mostly self-supported, but there is a bit coming from the Federation, which is nice.
00:34:11
Peak Pursuits
um They do support us as much as they can. It's tricky coming to this because I think for athletics, it's only a small, a very, very small part of their um their program um and it's very new. So they're not, and not it doesn't it doesn't appear that they're too invested in in it at this stage, but I think the longer it it runs and and the more competitive teams we send,
00:34:40
Peak Pursuits
the more athletics are going to take it, keep an eye on it, and and and then hopefully and in the future we'll see some funding going towards it. um I think the the reason, say, the uniform's not included is because it is and is part of athletics, whereas the the the team, the Asia-Pacific last year, because it was Autra, they were funding that, but because this team is sort of run by Athletics Australia, there's no funding available, so that that the uniform has to be paid for.
00:35:07
Peak Pursuits
um there's a team levy um you have to pay for your flights there is some accommodation included which is which is cool but and not for the whole team i believe it's just most of the team but maybe not all because there's only a certain amount of quota spots so yeah it's expensive trip um if you add all those things together um i don't know you could be talking or by the time you do some training beforehand and you're there
00:35:30
Vlad
six seven pound i mean just even if you just look at the basics um the accommodation the team um expenses and all that flights you know even just three or four days accommodation um in each like you know before and after um you know you're probably looking at six six and a half thousand dollars Which is a lot and you know it's just sad because it just means that we're not sending you know our best teams.
00:35:59
Vlad
um So technically we're slowing you know the growth of the sport. um And then again like we could have had bigger teams as well. um
00:36:09
Peak Pursuits
Yeah.
00:36:09
Vlad
So, yeah, it's bit weird, you know, that it is like, it definitely would have put a few people few really good runners that could have you know, maybe we would have not been selected if this was, you know, a fully supported, like, fully funded team.
00:36:24
Vlad
um But, yeah, I feel like, you know, if they are going to make it, you know, going to pay for everything. Let's open up the team and have more runners go. Like, let's make the most out of it.
00:36:34
Peak Pursuits
yeah
00:36:36
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, i think i think in my mind, you've got to go one way or the other. you if you If you are doing a sort of fully self-supported option, as long as someone meets the minimum requirements ability level that you're that you're looking for then you should be sending full teams but I guess that's where they've made that decision on on ability levels this year which I don't know exactly how you make that call um there's a few people that missed out that I think could could be running for sure um but yeah that's it's a
00:36:36
Vlad
yeah, it's a of a good thing.
00:37:08
Peak Pursuits
that's tricky so for the mountain teams they've sent pretty much full teams but what we're just get what we're sort of saying here is that you can have six people in the short trail and the long trail um and we've just sent a team of four so there's potentially some people who who would have gone and and it's not like they were a cost to anyone um because they would have been self-supported anyway so that's sort of yeah i i think like if it is self-supported i understand that it has to be ah do think that If we put more investment into it, i don't know where that investment comes from. That's the tricky bit.
00:37:42
Peak Pursuits
But if you put more investment into it, then you are going to be able to send better teams. and And the teams that do have investment will probably do really well. Like Spain, I know they are one that they put a lot of money into this.
00:37:54
Peak Pursuits
um The athletes actually get paid to go sometimes depending on the level that they are at. um So not only do they get their costs covered, but they have like bonus structures included as well.
00:38:04
Peak Pursuits
So um they obviously have super strong teams because of that, because it's very attractive for the best athletes to try and go for that. So yeah, I think Australia's maybe, we've sent some of our best athletes, but if we want to attract more, more really strong athletes to the sport of trail running, then I think funding something like this in the future will be really key to that.
00:38:26
Peak Pursuits
So yeah, hopefully we get there at some point in the future.
00:38:28
Vlad
Yeah, definitely. But yeah, I mean, yeah.
00:38:30
Peak Pursuits
I probably won't be on the team then. Like you said, if the teams get stronger, I'm probably not going to be on the team.
00:38:33
Vlad
Yeah.
00:38:35
Peak Pursuits
So I'll enjoy my year. um
00:38:38
Vlad
you
00:38:38
Peak Pursuits
But yes, I would love to be kicked out of the team by some really strong runners. So please come and do it. Yeah.
00:38:43
Vlad
Yeah, mean I think if we want to see the sport grow, um you know, runners like us shouldn't be on the team. But yeah, once you have pay six and a half thousand dollars to represent Australia, I guess you will see runners like us make it make it onto the team.
00:38:50
Peak Pursuits
yeah
00:38:58
Vlad
um Which, yeah, I mean, I just feel like, you know, um like last time for Austria, um we bought the uniform. But it was a lot cheaper.
00:39:10
Vlad
um Like I'm pretty sure like the Puma singlet was like $35. Like I think it was reasonable. Well, like this time, like saying again, I did not have to buy the singlet because I had it from from last year.
00:39:23
Vlad
um But the singlet was $75. um So yeah, I feel like, you know, a $75, you know, champion system, which is a good brand, um but it's not Puma.
00:39:35
Vlad
It's a bit weird that, you know, some things could have not improved there and I'll tell you the truth, it's pretty much exactly the same singlet that ah had that I got for free, actually, for the 2016 team. So years on, um you know still the same singlet. It's a bit weird that they could not improve on it.
00:39:56
Vlad
um Yeah, it's just, yeah, kind of weird that 10 years on, same material, same design, um nothing has not changed, but this time we're actually paying $75 for a singlet, which is a lot of money.
00:40:11
Vlad
So yeah, it was a bit disappointing to see all of that, but yeah, I'm also happy in the same sense that I can still be part of the team. while we're still not super competitive.
00:40:20
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, fantastic.
00:40:22
Vlad
And yeah, I guess in 10 years time, hopefully, when when the teams are supported a bit more, um you know better runners will step up and make those teams.
00:40:33
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that'd be cool to see. um But yeah, it'll be interesting to detail your build when you when you get over to Europe and my ongoing training and Jess's sort of prep, she seems to be training really well, so I'm excited to see how she goes and um yeah, it'll be very cool for us three all to be over there together. Maybe we'll do a little podcast in Camp Frank.
00:40:59
Vlad
Yeah, just like we did in South Korea, right?
00:41:01
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, yeah, exactly. hey
00:41:05
Vlad
And yeah, I think um also the Asia-Pacific Trail Champs will be announced very soon, hopefully for next year.
00:41:06
Peak Pursuits
Nice.
00:41:13
Peak Pursuits
Cool.
00:41:13
Vlad
um I don't know too much about it, but I just heard that it's going to get announced soon. So if you are listening,
00:41:18
Peak Pursuits
I was going to say, you got any teasers? Because I'm very excited about that.
00:41:22
Vlad
yeah, I just want to find out where it's going be.
00:41:22
Peak Pursuits
I'm interested to see where it'll be. Because I think that, again, that's ah that's a cool opportunity.
00:41:24
Vlad
Yeah.
00:41:28
Peak Pursuits
So yeah, hopefully, yeah, keep an eye out on that. if youre interested on these sort of representative teams because that was I wasn't part of the team last year, but I was there and it looked really cool. So, yeah, definitely something to keep an eye out for.
00:41:42
Peak Pursuits
All right. Well, we might move on to some results. um So we had a few races over the weekend. um I might start with ah the Guzzler, which was probably the biggest event over the weekend. um The Guzzler is a race up in Queensland.
00:42:00
Peak Pursuits
um put on by the trail company. um So it's ah got lots of different distances. um So they've got 50, 21 and a 10 up the sort of behind Brisbane there.
00:42:14
Peak Pursuits
um So in the 100K, the winner in the women was Christy Laurie in 1254. Tracy McDonald was second in 1503 and Denise Davies was third in 1540.
00:42:29
Peak Pursuits
In the men, Jordan Nukanuku, Nukanuku, I've said that wrong, is 11.43. Sorry, Jordan. um Second is Liam Thierens in 11.59.
00:42:44
Peak Pursuits
And third was Nolas Rolt in 12.13. So fairly close in the top three there in the men. And Christy got a big win in the women. That's a really impressive run.
00:42:59
Peak Pursuits
I'll go to the 50K. So in the 50K in the female category, Kobe Munro was first in 5.06. Ariane Houston was second in 5.37.
00:43:13
Peak Pursuits
devvan And Sonia Racegirdle was third in 5.40. She was just ahead of Beth McKenzie, who would know from uta ah She was 5 as 41 in fourth.
00:43:29
Peak Pursuits
So think I saw on Beth's Instagram she didn't have the greatest day, but the those strong running women up there to the beat Beth Steele. good on them. In the men, first was Oliver Cook in 4 as 57.
00:43:44
Peak Pursuits
Second was Theo Atkinson in 5.06.50 and third was David Clark in 5.10.13. So Kobe Munro, who ran 5.06, was actually second overall. So very strong run there.
00:43:57
Peak Pursuits
And in the 21K in the women, Ashley O'Loughlin was first in 1 hour 57.55.
00:44:07
Peak Pursuits
Mish Hansford was second in one hour And Viv Broadbent was third in 204-29. And in the men, Ben Dufus, who I think has won, I think he might have the course record for this 21K as well as the 50K. He runs the Guzzler most years, I think.
00:44:27
Peak Pursuits
He was first in one hour Zach Newsham, who had a really good run at BTU, also another great run for him. running one hour 35.16.
00:44:38
Peak Pursuits
And third was Anthony Gordon in one hour 38.27. So that was the Guzzler. I think yeah I'll do one other here. I had the Boyne 50K, which is also up in Queensland, I believe.
00:44:52
Peak Pursuits
um Just to quick shout out on this one for the 50, because Zoe Manning, who was in the Asia Pacific trail running team last year,
00:45:02
Peak Pursuits
in the junior category she's had another great run last year she ran this race she ran four as 16 this year she's run it again and she's won outright in three as 42 44 so so ah really strong run from Zoe there um she was yeah first in 3 hours 42 second was Helen Rolfe in 4 hours 16 third Emily Barton in 4 hours 49 and in the men
00:45:32
Peak Pursuits
and in the men Joshua de Jonquer was first in three hours 50. Trent Blinko was second in 406.
00:45:42
Peak Pursuits
And Matthew Nipres was third in 409. So that was a boy in 50K. And I think you're going to take us to Goldfield's Pipeline Marathon, the one that you raced, Vlad.
00:45:56
Vlad
yeah so i did the 50k came first in the 50k um second place was michael snot and third place jayden mcnamara in the females it was only three

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00:46:09
Vlad
or four um females so yeah if if you're out there listening next year uh good prize money um so good chance but jackie clareman um finished first followed by Barbara Fabreg-McLens.
00:46:27
Vlad
um And in third place, Vicky Lee. The marathon, I guess, a little bit more um runners, but yeah, not not too many people. So yeah, definitely a good one to do um for the chance to win some money.
00:46:41
Vlad
There's 55 runners in the marathon. um Carlos... And Querio is pretty much my training partner. We ran Gold Coast most of the way together.
00:46:52
Vlad
um he won in 2044 and got the course record. um I was kind of telling him to slow down a bit so you can go for the course record next year and try and get the $500 bonus. But he did beat it by almost three three minutes.
00:47:07
Vlad
um
00:47:08
Peak Pursuits
Mm-hmm.
00:47:08
Vlad
Thomas Page, who is a local from Kalgoorlie, um lives in perth now a really good runner i think he ran um 231 or 232 in osaka not long ago um he ran 258 and right behind him um corinne garveveld in 259 um kiara nazaroff who won the women's in 321 um so she trains in our group as well this was the longest race before this was 5k um so yeah she's i think her sister lives in um in kalgoorlie um so she's like yeah it's a good chance to come visit her and win some money as well and yeah pretty big jump from 5k races and shorter races um to a marathon
00:47:43
Peak Pursuits
you
00:48:00
Vlad
So well done to Kiara. Alexander Clare was second and Katie Shangai came third.
00:48:12
Vlad
um There was few more people, one go through the half marathon and the 10K, but that were the main events. And yeah, it was nice to see a lot of local runners join the shorter distances.
00:48:23
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, nice. Yeah, it looks like a cool race. Always cool to have a little bit of prize money on offer. So, yeah, keep an eye on that one for future years. um And then overseas, we also had um obviously lots of races happening as always, but Lara Hamilton was racing in the World Mountain Running Association Cup.
00:48:38
Vlad
Thank
00:48:46
Peak Pursuits
They had a round in Briennecon. I may have said that wrong. That's in France. um she ran both the uphill and the classic distance. Unfortunately, wasn't feeling too good on the uphill, so i had to DNF, but then backed up and was able to run the classic distance and came a really strong 11th place.
00:49:06
Peak Pursuits
So a great run from Lara there. And I also noticed when I was having a look at the results that Jessie Speedy, who was at UTA, I think the 22-kilometer winner, um she came 12th place. So she's from New Zealand and she's been doing some of these mountain running distances. I think she's running at the mountain running champs, the what trial trail mountain running champs as well for New Zealand later in the year. So she's getting in some specific prep for that. So cool to see the those two running and racing against each other.
00:49:38
Peak Pursuits
um Coming up, well, I guess that's, yeah, I think that might be all for the results for this week. So yeah, coming up next week, um there's a few races happening across the country for the podcast, we have Simone. She's traveling at the moment. She's ah racing in Poland at the Tatra Sky Marathon, which is part of the Sky Running World Series.
00:50:01
Peak Pursuits
So she's got 42K with 3,300 up and down. Sounds pretty actually relevant to our race later in September. Maybe we should have headed over to Poland for that one.
00:50:12
Peak Pursuits
would be cool to see Sim get her first European race in over there. and she's building up for CCC. So and that's the first part of her European trip.
00:50:27
Peak Pursuits
um In Australia locally, we have few races happening, um Australian Outback Marathon, another one in Northern Territory this time, Clare Valley Trail Run, Sydney Ultra Marathon.
00:50:43
Peak Pursuits
We have another one of the Northwest Trail Running Series in to Tasmania. Summit Shoalhaven, a lot of stuff going on across the country. What are you up to next week, lad?
00:50:56
Peak Pursuits
Another race? Are going to this Northern Territory one, maybe?
00:51:00
Vlad
I am doing another race, but not racing yet. I'm just doing a big expo then, a PTS, a Perth Trail Series one.
00:51:03
Peak Pursuits
Okay.
00:51:08
Vlad
And then, yeah, get yeah packing and ready.
00:51:08
Peak Pursuits
Cool.
00:51:11
Vlad
But did want to mention that like a few months ago, I think when the selections for the team, for the OZ team was going on, And we kind of talked about it, how they were going to select only the top 50.
00:51:22
Vlad
And, you know, i think we said like probably be nicer and better for the sport to have a bigger team. And after we did talk about it, I did get a couple of messages on my Instagram kind of saying, yeah, that's,
00:51:33
Vlad
We definitely agree with you there. And i think like a good example of this um was Nick Maxlow from South Australia. So he was in the short team in Thailand um together with me and a couple of others.
00:51:50
Vlad
and like I think probably you would agree to say he's not like the most elite runner. um you know Obviously, a really, really good runner, um but probably won't consider himself as an elite.
00:51:57
Peak Pursuits
Thank you.
00:52:01
Vlad
But I think a good example of making that team was... you know, him coming, coming, doing the champs, then coming back home, starting a coaching business and opening a running shop and, you know, creating a community around it. So you never know, like, you know, how powerful some of those experience could be for some runners and the effects on the community.
00:52:25
Vlad
um So, yeah, overall, I'm obviously happy that we do have a big team.
00:52:28
Peak Pursuits
you
00:52:29
Vlad
um But yeah, like we said, we could have easily added an extra two runners, you to the team, especially for the short, obviously only in the short and the long, and you never know how that will change the trail running community because, you know, Nick had that experience in the team and and went on and, you know, improved the community in South Australia, the trail running um community there. So yeah, hopefully for next time we can we can have a bigger team because it does make a big difference and um can help the sport in in a lot of other ways, except just performance.
00:53:01
Peak Pursuits
Yeah, that's a really, really good point and ah like quite a nice story from Nick there. So, yeah, good on you, Nick. And, yeah, cool that he got that experience and cool that he's pushed that sort of love of trail running onto a lot of other people, I'm sure, since then. So, yeah, that's it's it's it's a good thing to think about as well, hopefully for the future teams when we're talking about this sort of stuff.
00:53:22
Vlad
Yeah, absolutely.
00:53:22
Peak Pursuits
Nice one.
00:53:23
Peak Pursuits
Well, I think that's all for this week. Nice and short. Nothing nothing too too long. Hopefully yeah we have maybe three of us on next week. um I'm in Norway for another week, so hopefully get on to some ah more runnable trails, I think, in the

Episode Farewell

00:53:41
Peak Pursuits
week. I'm headed down to Oslo.
00:53:42
Peak Pursuits
um And, yeah, we'll catch up with you next week. See you later, bud.
00:53:47
Vlad
See you, everybody. See you, guys.