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Episode 73: Aussie UTMB Review!
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Welcome to Episode 73 of Peak Pursuits, your ultimate podcast for everything trail running in Australia. This episode is hosted by Sim Brick, Brodie Nankervis and Vlad Ixel and covers the top Aussie results of UTMB Week! Hear our top Aussie overall and category results from every race distance and the crews thoughts on some of the standouts or the hard days.
To everyone that got out there and raced, huge congrats!
We finish by bringing it back to Aus for the Wonderland Trail Run results and some quick times at Sydney for Leo Peterson and Fraser Darcy!
Results:
UTMB: https://live.utmb.world/utmb/2025/utmb
Wonderland: https://www.webscorer.com/race?raceid=403485
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Thanks for tuning in to Peak Pursuits! Connect with us on Instagram @peakpursuits.pod to share your thoughts, questions, and your own trail stories. Until next time, keep hitting the trails and chasing those peak pursuits!
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Transcript
Introduction and Jet Lag Talk
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Music
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Hello and welcome to episode 73 of the Peak Pursuits podcast. My name is Simone Brick, coming to you from home in Australia, a very jet-lagged human because I arrived this morning technically.
Hosts' Current Locations and Travel Plans
00:00:22
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It's 6pm Monday, but I am joined by two travellers still, one being Brody Nankervis. are we doing, Broads? Yeah, pretty good. um I'm in Ireland at the moment um and yeah, the weather's Pretty much the same as it probably is in Melbourne, so it's not too different. But I'm headed to Spain in a few days, so looking forward to some sun.
00:00:45
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Nice, nice, very nice. Although it was cold. It was a little cold when I left Annecy and left Europe and I came home to semi-similar weather. It's not necessary. It's cold here, much actually much colder.
00:00:57
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But the sun's out. It's spring, so we're coming into good stuff. And Vlad, you are still in Italy. Yeah, just got done with the UTMB Expo. So um pretty much hard. I think doing the Expo is harder than racing the races there. um But yeah, just catching up on work now from a whole week of the UTMB Expo.
00:01:19
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Yeah, quite possibly it would be. Like i I do not envy anyone doing that Expo at all um because it's like a week-long ultra event of people socializing and doing dealing with work stuff.
00:01:35
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Although one thing I noticed, almost every single person I chatted to as I walked through the expo is a impossible not to walk through the expo and find at least five or six people you knew because just everyone was there.
00:01:48
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But almost every person mentioned how busy as it was, how much they dislike big crowds like this because they're a trail runner. And just like my observation is like this is the weirdest convention of bringing together whole bunch of people that really like solo time in the mountains and putting them all in one place so they're kind of loving life and kind of hating life at the same time.
00:02:09
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Yeah, that expo is obviously getting bigger and bigger. Luckily, like our location of our booth is wasn't like right in the mess because I've only walked through the expo like once and it was like, yeah, super tight, not that fun.
00:02:23
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But then luckily we were just a bit outside of it and there a bit more space. So it was a bit nicer where we were. But, yeah, there was definitely a lot of people. Yeah, honestly, primo position for you, i i would say, because, yeah, I'm with you. I walked through the the expo a few times and just, nah, you have to get out of there pretty quick. But around your area, which was near the river, um you can actually chill and relax. And you guys get to see the runners come past on race days. so that's a bonus too.
Focus on UTMB - The Biggest Trail Running Event
00:02:53
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But yeah as everyone can already tell, as I bring it back to the pod, the topic of this week is, of course, going to be UTMB, running through what went on for all the Aussies out there and just the races in general.
00:03:07
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um It's hard to go past pretty much the biggest week of trail running in the world, at the moment at least, um with plenty more big stuff coming up. But First of all, Brodie, give us an update. How's the holiday, the switch to holiday mode going and how's it felt the last week?
00:03:26
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Yeah, pretty good. um I've been like from this last week was between two and three weeks of my, like when i start from when I stopped running.
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um So I was able to do a little bit more, start doing some ah gym work and ah So like back to my normal gym strength program with ah just making sure I'm doing um all of my stuff with flat foot.
00:03:55
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um So yeah, that was really nice. um Found a few gyms to go to um and then paid for some really expensive pools to go swimming, which I didn't enjoy, but. and trying to sort of hang on to a little bit of cardiovascular fitness. um I wasn't riding until just yesterday. I first started riding in three weeks um just to give it a little bit more time, um especially because it's in my foot.
00:04:21
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um So, yeah, yesterday I did a ride ah on just the bike in the gym with my super shoes on because they've got a carbon plate in them. So that would have looked funny to anyone in the gym. But I've also done a lot of walking around in my super shoes. Wait, why are you walking with super shoes?
00:04:40
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Because the super shoes have, um well, the the stiffest shoe I have. So by stiff I mean like the they don't bend. So it means that the force, you put less force through the metatarsals because you're not pushing anything.
00:04:56
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um that part of the shoe is not bending when you when you push off. um It does probably load up the Achilles a little bit more in that in for walking, um but that's not a bad thing necessarily for me to give it some some tension and some load. So, yeah yeah, I've been walking a lot of places in super shoes so that I'm sort of offloading the metatarsals as much as I can.
00:05:18
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um yeah, it's been enjoyable. I've worn them to a lot of strange places.
00:05:25
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Oh, that's perfect. I love that. I would just, it's like, why are you walking around super shoes? Because I'm injured, which normally when you're injured, super shoes are the first thing to go away. so Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:05:37
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And then I've got like, I want to wear like a flat shoe to the gym so that I can sort of not be in massive spongy shoes. And the only shoes I really have that are like relatively flat, I like these canvas boat shoes.
00:05:51
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So I wear these like boat shoes when I go to the gym. So I've just got like the most ridiculous get up at the moment for exercise. But yeah, that's all right. We're getting it done. If it works, it works.
00:06:02
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When overseas, you just got to work with what you've got. So no, that sounds good. That sounds good. um And how's the sort of mental space of are you able able to actually switch off and enjoy the holiday so side of things? I find that can be the sort of harder transition.
00:06:16
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Yeah, it's been good. Like I spent like two weeks. I spent like the first week I was a bit like it took me a while to get through it, but maybe like three or four days and and then I was all right. Even by by the time we talked last week, I like i was fine. I was sort more just like talking about the experience. But yeah, it's mostly been quite good. Like it's frustrating when you're like,
00:06:36
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drive past and you go oh yeah I was planning to go for a run in that like national park there or I was gonna run I thought maybe I'd try and run up that mountain because I planned what we were like the trip they were gonna do and you see the things that you were thinking that you were gonna do that's probably the only thing that I get a bit sad about so it's like as to me it just nails down that like I want to get back to running and I want to get back to being able to just do whatever type of running I want to do.
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Whereas like the last year has sort of been like, ah can I can't really do that sort of running. I can't do that because I need to do this or my Achilles isn't quite ready for that or whatever. So yeah, it sort of nails back to the fact that like whatever happens here, I just want to get back to being able to be like, oh yeah, I can just go out and do that 20K mountain run or I can just go down to park run and just give it a, just smash out a 5K if that's what I feel like. Like,
00:07:31
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That's the sort of thing I want to have no restrictions on what I could do if I wanted to.
Reflections on Physical Endurance and Recovery
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Yeah. Yeah, hear you. It is ah certainly a huge privilege to have a body that can just do what you ask of it and cope, um which, yeah, hopefully. Yeah, it's good.
00:07:48
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It's good. I'm enjoying it. I've got only – so next week I'll start doing some more plyometrics – sorry, not more. I'll start some plyometric stuff and then that's a bit of a test to see how the foot's going.
00:08:03
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um And then at six weeks, if if that goes well at six weeks, I'll start running. So I'm halfway there. So, yeah, I'm... Sort of like I get to go for some runs later later in my trip in September. So I'm looking forward to getting back to it Good, good. Can confirm that ending the trip on a high is still a good thing, at least. Yeah. um It still has you coming home, um like not too distraught about the whole how the whole trip went. So, yes, hopefully we can get you ending on a high.
00:08:31
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um Now, Vlad, you're certainly in a boat of ah your body seems to just handle anything and everything at all times. So what have you been putting it through the last week slash week?
00:08:45
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Well, actually, we haven't spoken to you in a couple of weeks. So yeah, just how's how's the body feeling? And obviously, off a week of UTMB Expo, you might have had a lighter week, but tell us about it. Yeah, definitely a bit of a lighter week. But um for the past few years, it's always been like my kind of down week, almost like start of an off season. um So I do the Expo and then eight o'clock at night, try and do like a 30 minute jog.
00:09:08
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But this time was a bit different. i was trying to wake up a bit earlier, do some work, then get a 30-minute jog in and then 30 minutes after the end of the expo. And it was pretty painful.
00:09:20
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i Definitely running after being on my feet for 12, 13 hours. It was pretty tough, especially a few days in a row. um But yeah, kind of got it done and then left you yeah chamonix because it's just so expensive straight after the expo um drove a tiny bit 50k to italy to osta um checked into my airbnb and pretty much what i do when i check into any new new location or airbnb um opened the strava app and see what what's the segments around me and literally there was a double vk outside my door so i was like there's a few from aosta there's a few there's a triple vk oh is there yeah there's a there's a race up mount amelius um it's pretty much a triple vk 16k with 3 000
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um they actually run a race up it. I noticed I found the race courses because i I went most of the way up that one and that's because I did the other side of the valley to you when I saw your Strava run um because I got two six in one go, 2,600.
00:10:26
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um But there was another one. There was another, yeah, 16Ks with 3,000. But the side you did was pretty much the same. There was just double VKs both sides of the valley. Yeah, I was like, this is perfect. um So the first day when we got there, so like, I mean, we drove for a bit and by the time we checked in,
00:10:43
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I only did like just a VK. um So yeah, VK 4K, which was it quite nice actually, fairly runnable. And then the next day, um yeah, went, I think there was 2,200 meters of gain in about nine and a half k um So, yeah, that was pretty fun. Really, really enjoyable. like Actually, I think I've never obviously been to our stuff. Like I never stayed there. i drove past a few times, but I actually really liked it because it's not too touristy. There's obviously incredible trails around there. um
00:11:15
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Fairly cheap as well. Obviously, that's why you were there for a couple of days. So, yeah. yep i Maybe it was a good option. You call like SIM cheap. No, but how many during UTMB week is insane, um even like the week before and after.
00:11:31
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I had free cancellation, thank goodness, for my race accommodation, which I always book free cancellation for race accommodation. But the last two nights of my trip alone in Chamonix, which is the night after the race and then the next night, were $1,700 for the place that I had with me and my parents and Matt.
00:11:50
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We spent less than that on the accommodation for that entire week in the end and because we'd also, it was like $1,600 for two nights in Cormier before the race, $1,700 for two nights in Chamonix after the race and the nights in Chamonix and Argentier before that were not much cheaper. I think it was about $4,000 we were spending on a week of accommodation.
00:12:13
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That is insane. i had to I got to cancel all that and, yeah, Aosta, under like amazing place for training because I also you wouldn't have gotten to do one of the runs I did flat I my parents drove me up um to this trail that was like a balcony trail almost and it was just a beautifully groomed flat trail pretty high up that just went and went and went it went for ages it was amazing I was like you have everything here I saw it on your Strava, actually. I was like, I wondered. I thought maybe you got the cable car up because it started pretty high up.
00:12:47
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But, yeah, really cool. Like, actually, definitely a place that I would like to spend a bit more time in because it is good weather, really looked up. Like, the trails were beautiful, the ones that I saw.
00:12:58
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um Yeah. And not not too many people as well. Like, the town felt just very local, like not too many tourists and, um Yeah, it was really nice. And then yeah yesterday we got to Lake Lago Majora, which is it's only about an hour and a half drive down.
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um There's some nice peaks here, but yeah, kind of started running yesterday up this really wet and rocky riverbed that goes up. um Pretty technical. So yeah, the good thing about Lagomajora is that you can like drive to little towns like 10, 15 K away and check out some new picks.
00:13:33
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so that's going to do this afternoon. Look for some more elevation because the goal right now, four weeks left is all about getting the legs stronger. Nice, nice. Now we've lost Brody, so hopefully he comes back, his Irish internet.
00:13:48
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I swear it's just, it it's got to be Brody at this point because he's forever got the worst internet out of everyone, but hopefully he returns. Now, one question I had as you were going through your week, um and it goes back to when you're at UTMB, why this year...
00:14:03
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did you choose to sort of double and do you think that those 30 minute runs on really sore and tired legs after the day of standing do you think they were helpful or detrimental like where do you draw that line of going no this is actually a good thing for me versus this could be overload or like what's the point when it's already a really tiring week I think like just knowing how hard the world champ course is going to be, i thought that I can need the extra volume. I need the extra time on my feet, like, you know, especially just going up and down.
00:14:38
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So yeah, like some days, like some mornings, like my heels and calves were really tight, but yeah, i mean it was the same pain in both sides so felt like that's just fatigue um yeah i mean obviously if the world champs was in a different date i wouldn't do it because i don't think that's the right thing to do um yeah so obviously outside the expo i still had like my normal work that i had to do on the computer for all the other big stuff that we do um in different countries so yeah it was uh it was a really big week and i was really exhausted like straight after it but
00:15:12
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I also know that, you know, just having a whole week with like three or four hours could really affect this buildup. um But yeah, now i'm feeling okay. So maybe it wasn't too bad, but definitely took me like two ah two two or three days to get back to normal after that crazy week.
00:15:30
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Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Sounds good. It's just, I feel like those can be the weeks. that really undo people. Like when I'm coaching someone and they tell me they've got a week like that, I'm almost always a, well, less is more so that we can get back into it quicker because you'll recover from the week quicker. Like there's, I suppose there's just multiple ways to go about it, but there's the, let's use the leg fatigue to get some cool adaptations that you're going to need for the race versus the possibility of like, as you said, yeah by just standing for that long, you tighten up in different areas,
00:16:04
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Therefore, you might be loading differently. Therefore, it's ah it's a scenario where it is easier to create an overload for people, like when work changes that much. um But it sounds like you navigated it okay. Yeah, i mean, I think if i if I would have coached anybody, I would have said, just have the whole week off.
00:16:20
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You're not going to spend too much. Like, obviously, i know my body a bit and I know that I need high volume and a lot of training too um to be fit.
00:16:31
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And then also know the level of the world champs that's going to come up and the course kind of like I have an understanding for that. so I'm like, yeah, i could have a down week here, but it could really affect my leg strength and, you know, the ability of
Training Insights During Busy Schedules
00:16:48
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competing there. Yeah. It's going to be tough anyway. Look, I'm not going to win the world champs. And even if I would have done two hours a day after the expo, that would have not really helped me that much. But, yeah, i mean, I thought like breaking it up and doing a flat run,
00:17:03
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after the expo just on the riverbanks, like easy 30 minutes. And then in the morning, i would just run up the VK for 20 minutes up, 10 minutes down kind of run.
00:17:15
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And I was able to actually go a little bit faster in the morning because I was feeling a little bit better. um But yeah, smashed my legs on some of those downhills as well to try and get some adaptation um yeah and that's that's good like i would say that morning run perfect um just in my head i question whether you actually needed to exhaust yourself on the afternoon one or not most days yeah but you're right the thing is that yeah the morning was tough because that's where i and also needed to like catch up with all the emails because we're eight hours, you know, Australia and Asia. So yeah, yeah, got it done, you know, I would have enjoyed week off and the way that I've been doing it as this being week off kind of running or very little running. But um yeah, with the world champs four weeks away, I thought I might as well take the chance.
00:18:04
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Who knows how many more times I'm going to do the world champs. So Yeah. yeah No, fair. I like it. I like it. You explained it well. um It's just interesting for people to hear the different takes you can have when work or life chucks a massive week at you and how to navigate that sort of thing in a big build because it comes up a lot, at least for the people I coach, seem to have very busy lives.
00:18:26
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Yeah. I think also like just a last point in that if I would have lived in the Alps, I probably would have just done a 30 minute flat jog. But knowing that I can get some really steep, even if it's like 20 minutes of 30% gradient the morning, I think um meant that I really might as well have to take my chance here and and get the most out of it.
00:18:49
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But yeah, you're right. Like it could have been, a you know, pushing one run a bit too much could have flipped to something and um yeah, could have ended build Yeah, got to make it to the start line first as we all know all too well.
00:19:08
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The joys, the joys. Awesome. Well, good job on making your way through it and um I look forward to hearing just how many peaks you managed to get to in Italy and how much gain you manage again this week. knowing you, um in the lead up to World Champs.
00:19:24
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um From my end, I did get a bit of a taste of the expo um and UTMB mayhem. It's certainly getting busier and busier. I was there...
00:19:35
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Monday, which shout out to everyone that came along on Monday. um We did have a cute little Aussie run on Monday morning after the Bix coffee, um which was super cool to see some new faces and um get a run in.
00:19:50
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But i did I ended up doing that run plus then two hours. So it was 40 minutes with the Aussie group, um and which was Tate Herbst, Nath Pierce, and a bunch of other people running.
00:20:04
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um And then ah did two hours with Meow Yow, which was really, really good. But it was also I'd done the session with her the day before.
00:20:15
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And part of my brain was going, oh, my gosh, this one, like Meow's taper was my rebuild. So, and it was hard, um but obviously it works for her because spoiler alert, she went on to come second and it was a close race. So it clearly works for her. But yeah, that two hours, she messaged me the night before and she's like two hours at like 150 heart rate.
00:20:36
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And I was like, that's not slow. That sounds brutal, but fun. So I did survive. I was quite proud the fact that off the back of three weeks of not much, um I both survived the session the day before and then this two hours.
00:20:52
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um And the really, really cool thing was, which is why I'm mostly why I'm mentioning this run, is that we did an out and back on the Marathon de Mont Blanc course. So it was from Chamonix. out to sort of Latua area and back, um that first fast-ish 10K.
00:21:07
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And I haven't run a good portion of those trails since I was there in 2021 just because it hasn't worked out that I went that direction. um And ran the race.
00:21:18
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And in this run, i was still chatting with Meow. Like we were talking and like I was still very comfortable. But I get back and I had beaten some of my times up climbs by two minutes.
00:21:31
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And these are short climbs. Like I was moving a lot faster than I did in the race in 2021. And it was just this really fun moment after a really horrible few weeks to go, um I'm still better than I was when I first started coming to Europe.
00:21:45
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So nice little confidence boost out of that one. um And that ended up being like a 30k run, which is my longest run in a while at that point. So we got some fatigue back in the legs and I'd Didn't double, but did kind of double because that afternoon I had, um this was my part of staying in Chamonix and doing the UTMB mayhem. I had a photo shoot um with Sun God that afternoon, but because we did it so late, we caught a gondola up to where like a Gilda Possett is and um Colder Balm and those sorts of places.
00:22:18
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But then it was so late that there was no gondolas back down. So we had to like walk, jog down. This it's essentially a VK. I think it was like 800 meters descent in 3K or so.
00:22:29
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um and on tired legs from that morning, I was actually really feeling it. So big day um on that day, which worked perfectly because the next day I did absolutely no running, which was my birthday.
00:22:42
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And I just got to go out on a bunch of adventures um with mum and dad and Matt. We went across, fun fact, you can, it took me forever to figure out whether this was possible, but it is. We went up the Aguil de Midi gondola, then across the panoramic and then down the month the one into Italy, into Cormier.
00:23:00
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So we'd went like from France all the way into Italy and then back again, um which was a lot of fun. um But there's not much info on the internet as to whether that's actually possible. So can tell people it is.
00:23:14
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um And it was good. Then for the rest of the week, it was still just kind of trying to get moving again. um But the I was in Aosta from that point forward um and I did just some easy running. Aosta, as me and Vlad already mentioned, amazing place for running.
00:23:32
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Then we came to race day. And i was like, I just need to spend the day out in in the mountains um somewhere. Like I can't just sit at home and watch the race. So i had an awesomely distracting day going up.
00:23:46
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I did. Well, we tried to go up Monte Emilius, it's called, which goes to 3,550 meters.
00:23:55
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um but we were starting at like 600 metres. So it was a massive climb, but we were trying to go up it from, i think it might be the north side or the ridge, which turns out the last K and a half to the summit is a Via Ferrata.
00:24:11
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Now, it wasn't the worst via Ferrata, so we still scrambled along it for a bit for as long as we felt confident. um But essentially, I'd run two hours semi-hard, like steady. I'm going to say zone two, two hours up to mat.
00:24:27
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We then hiked up, and the average gradient of like the last 500 meters of this hike just to the col was 44%. So, yeah. say It was incredible scenery.
00:24:37
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um But then, yeah, we get to this Via Ferrata and we're going up and over and there's all the ladder rungs. Like it it's pretty vertical at times. And there's certainly times where I turn back to Matt and I'm like, okay, we're in a no fall area. Like you are not allowed to fall because there's cliffs either side of us, which is the terrain that I love being in.
00:24:55
Speaker
So I'm in my happy place. And thankfully, Matt also likes this sort of exploring. Don't recommend doing this at home. um If it's a via ferrata, it's a via ferrata for a reason. However, um we just went off with the rule of like, if we don't think we can make it back down this, then we don't go up it kind of deal.
00:25:12
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um Either way, we made it. um We were like 40 minutes for about 400 metres on this thing and it was taking forever and we got to a suspension bridge um and the suspension bridge was one of those, like when clipped in, it's so fine because it's got the floor and everything, but there's no there's no there was no mesh or anything.
00:25:34
Speaker
So when you're not clipped in, it's like one slip and you're actually just gone. um There's no safety sort of thing. And I was like, look, It was that weird thing of going if I was by myself, weirdly, I'd actually do this, but I couldn't bear watching Matt go across it because I'd freak out.
00:25:52
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um Also, there was a big sign saying don't go across in a storm and there was what looked like some weather coming in. So we made the smart move of going back. um But going downhill, a Via Ferrata that's designed to go up was is also so pretty hard.
00:26:08
Speaker
um So anyways, after two hours or so of rock scrambling, um I then put in 30 minute effort in to go up and over the summit that went to 3,200 or so. So I was getting some good altitude sort of stimulus at this point.
00:26:25
Speaker
And from that summit, I got a brilliant 2,600 meters of descent in 13 Ks, which is about exact for Kinabalu, which is what I thought this training would be good for.
00:26:41
Speaker
um A portion of that I did hike, but the last, I think I did the last sort of nine or 10 K in about four 50 minutes or so with 1700 drop, um not pushing, but just trying to get the legs to hurt.
00:26:53
Speaker
And it was one of those descents that I don't know how your legs feel at this point when you get down them, but off the back, at Vlad, but off the back of um the what few weeks of training I had, I got to the bottom and it was that you come to a stop, but you can't actually stop.
00:27:09
Speaker
And in order to stop, I kind of had to sit down because my quads didn't want to function anymore. um So yeah, how did you find going down the 2,200 in one go, Vlad? suppose you're used to it by now.
00:27:20
Speaker
Yeah, i was actually, um obviously it was painful while I was doing it. But yeah, the next day the quads were a bit heavy, but not too bad. still when I went up like 800 meters up and then 800 meters down and they were okay. And then today they feel okay. But Yeah, definitely those long ones, even going slow, like it's it's pretty painful once. Yeah, I got, I think, yeah, two thousand two hundred in ten K or something. So, yeah. So you finished pretty much in the supermarket.
00:27:48
Speaker
um I got home, yeah, just started getting as much protein as I can to like give give those quads um some protein to recover. But yeah, it wasn't too bad. But I was also going slow. Some parts were very, very technical. So I think like a very runnable 10K of downhill, my legs would have been smashed. Because once I got to the last 200 meters and it was a bit more road, that's where it was really painful.
00:28:16
Speaker
um But before that, it was yeah a bit more technical and slow. So it wasn't too bad. Yeah, this one had like a few portions of technical, but it's it was definitely more at least what I would call runnable.
00:28:27
Speaker
um And so it felt like like I was moving reasonably quick at times um because I was just kind of letting it carry me. So if it carried me fast, it carried me fast. But I sort of, I had that feeling for probably the last two Ks of the descent of going, okay, I don't actually want to be doing this anymore because every step feels a bit like my quad's going to go. um But I normally don't get that feeling.
00:28:50
Speaker
because of how much downhill I love doing. But we just don't get to do descents like that in Oz, which is why I love doing them at every opportunity I get when I'm overseas. um And I needed the conditioning, but then when you don't have the, I lost some of my conditioning. So this was me regaining it.
00:29:06
Speaker
And either way, the next day, if you said you could go up 800 metres, I jogged 30 minutes at like 540s on the flat um because that's all my legs would let me do.
00:29:18
Speaker
It was a travel day too. So we did have um a fair bit of drive time. But either way, that was my second last day of the trip um in Annecy. And then on my last day before the flight, this was sort of 48 hours after that big effort, which was seven hours on feet.
00:29:33
Speaker
So it was like ah seven hours interspersed with hard efforts and hiking um for during CCC. And then Two days later, before I got on the plane, I just did a steady session of 2K, 4x1K, 4x500, but by no means hitting anything super fast.
00:29:50
Speaker
um But i found I find it really helpful for in some ways for recovery, but also to get used to the feeling of running as fast as you can on those really tired legs. Because the only the other time I get that sort of feel is obviously at the end of races.
00:30:08
Speaker
um And it's it's It's as much a mental battle as physical sometimes. um So I find doing sessions where my legs really don't feel like, like I know they can, but they're also incredibly heavy from the load or for, in this case, the downhill.
00:30:23
Speaker
um Yeah, I find a lot of value in doing that sort of thing, just as long as you're actually able to suck up the ego and not be running very fast for what you would normally do that session.
00:30:36
Speaker
Oh, fuck, my brain just, ah this is the jet lag in me going. I don't know what time of day it is. Anyways, that was what finished up
Training and Medical Appointments Post-Travel
00:30:45
Speaker
my week. I did get 120Ks in again. So we're back training um and we're looking fine for Houndstley Marathon, which is now only two weeks away or less than two weeks away.
00:30:54
Speaker
So um back into the swing of things real quick. And I will say I've probably at this point, as we're talking on this podcast, had the most productive experience ah first 20 hours in Australia I've ever had because I've already seen my gastroenterologist, booked a whole bunch of other appointments, picked up an altitude tent and I have a gastroscopy and colonoscopy booked in for Thursday morning.
00:31:18
Speaker
um So welcome home me um to a whole bunch of more medical tests as soon as I get home. um And, oh, I just realized I see my psych Thursday afternoon as well. So that's a really fun day.
00:31:33
Speaker
Anyways, the joy is- Keeping yourself busy. Oh, I reckon. I absolutely, m um that's for sure. But that's the life that this was, it was actually interesting because I couldn't get in with my gastro for weeks and weeks and weeks. I called up this morning and they're like, you free this afternoon?
00:31:49
Speaker
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UTMB Results Discussion: OCC Race Analysis
00:32:46
Speaker
To the topic of the week, which is just UTMB results, um Brodie, how much did you actually watch all these races so I know how much info you're going to be giving us all?
00:32:57
Speaker
watched a bit, mostly OCC. I feel like the longer they go, like it's harder to do, especially while you're traveling because like you can't really like stay engaged with it.
00:33:07
Speaker
So maybe I was mostly just checking the results. um But I did watch... a fair chunk of the live stream for OCC because it was raining a lot and we were stuck inside.
00:33:18
Speaker
um And it was exciting. It was really cool. I enjoyed watching what I watched anyway. I watched probably maybe like the last half. um I think the men were coming into Treant when I started watching. And so I got to see the women battle and then um the men battle as well at the end with a bit of drama.
00:33:38
Speaker
with Jim getting overtaken and then getting back in front. So, yeah, it was it pretty cool. Oh, yeah, nice. I didn't realise that happened. um Were you on early enough to see the train stops?
00:33:50
Speaker
No, I don't think so. What was that? Did you see this, Vlad? I did, yeah. Is that the Polish guy that got stuck? ah There was a few. So on the men's side, I think, geez, was it the guy in second and third?
00:34:05
Speaker
um i ah Definitely Andre Vitek. um It was like semi front of the it was like front of the race. um I know Andre and there was ah two or three other guys with him. um I know there's a video of Andre getting quite upset and I'm like, mate, I probably would be too. I think he was in second at the time.
00:34:25
Speaker
um And, yeah, they had to stop for a train crossing for a decent chunk of time. And in a race that came down to what ah there was like 20 seconds between first and second and then only a few minutes back to third, like it does make a big difference. But then also in the women's race, Judith Vida got stopped, Sarah Alonso got stopped, Miao and Joyleen made it through and then so third and fourth got stopped.
00:34:51
Speaker
Um, so it was certainly did affect the front of the races, which I suppose like they had to change the course for, um, uh, weather. So I'm not sure there's probably absolutely no way around it, but it was just watching the live stream. It was just that painful thing of watching, going, hang on. Like this is actually now deciding the race, like, or helping. us How long did the to train take to pass? Is it sort of like a minute type of thing or?
00:35:19
Speaker
Yeah, at least um because obviously it goes down, then you wait for the train, then the train goes past, then they wait for it to go up. Like it's a whole cycle of a level crossing, um so which when you're racing. I hope they were all taking their gels while they waited at least. I know. I know.
00:35:35
Speaker
ah do Like, yeah ah yeah, like it's the sort of thing you've just got to relax and it and and let let it happen. um But at the same time, Yeah, it's just a weird thing to watch when it's such a big race.
00:35:47
Speaker
um Like imagine that happening in a World Champs where a train decides the race. Like a make marathon, like London marathon or something. Yeah, exactly. Like the guy running along in like even Sydney Marathon, imagine they get stopped by a train. Like it's it's just kind of wild. But also um i do, obviously, the organizers had to change the course to, it was 60Ks in the end, so longer but less technical.
00:36:10
Speaker
um Still a similar amount of climb or a little bit less, 3,400. So um some people would have been happy about that, some people less happy. In some ways it probably did suit Gyme.
00:36:20
Speaker
um for getting the win. But, yeah, Jim Wormsley with the win, Christian Monogio in second from Italy and Andre Vitek in third. um And that's on the men's side. On the women's side, it was won by Joylene Cepkino.
00:36:38
Speaker
Is that her surname? Yep, Joylene Cepkino and Meow Yow in second. It was only the a minute um and ten seconds back. Then Judith Vita in third, another couple of minutes back. um And the list honestly just goes down. Maud Mathis in fourth, Sarah Alonso in fifth. Like it was a very cool race to watch.
00:36:57
Speaker
On our Aussie side, Tate Herbst was our top finisher. He was in 31st male maybe.
00:37:08
Speaker
um Yeah, 31st male. I'm not sure what that made him overall. I think he was just a bit after the top four females. Yeah. And then next, Kelly Angel was our top finishing female and she was 62nd.
00:37:23
Speaker
I just know based on, her I haven't chatted to Kel, but just based on her Instagram, if she didn't have the day she wanted, um which is unfortunate, but it's not the most important one for her in this little block because she's got world champs coming up.
00:37:36
Speaker
um But yeah, thoughts on Tate's run? Yeah, it looked pretty good. Like and looking from afar, I was like, oh, wow, he's having a good run. And he was he was sort of in that position from when I started watching. He was around that low thirty s mid 30s for pretty much the whole time I was watching. So I was sort of hoping that he would maintain, wondering if he would go faster or hoping that he didn't drop off anymore.
00:38:01
Speaker
um and he sort of finished pretty strongly. But, um yeah, by the look of his Strava, I think he was actually a bit ah disappointed with his run, like he didn't feel as good as he wanted to. um I think he was still happy with the result and how he sort of persevered, but it sounded like he was considering pulling out about halfway through. So it wasn't his best day, but I would say thirty thirty first in a field like that.
00:38:24
Speaker
um and And then the distance behind, the time behind the leaders, I ah can't remember exactly what it was, but... 39 minutes it was. Yeah, 39 minutes behind those sort of like super, super world class, like best, best, best guys in the world I think is a very decent result.
00:38:40
Speaker
Yeah, 100%. It is. It is. I think it was a great run, um but obviously he would everyone's ideally going to want more I think in some ways, but it depends what happened for him out there on the day. But no matter what did happen, um he did hold on strong. um through Did you get to talk to him at all after Vlad?
00:38:58
Speaker
you were in, you were on the ground. no Yeah. Um, I think, yeah, i mean, i saw him finish and he was running strong at the end, but yeah, probably like could have, I think like on a good day could have finished, you know, 20 minutes, maybe 15 minutes quicker.
00:39:13
Speaker
Um, he's obviously a sub 15 minute 5k runner. So he's got the speed. So, um, yeah yeah, you know, the best day, but still a really good result. I mean, he finished in front of a lot of really good runners, a lot of DNFs as well. So, um,
00:39:28
Speaker
But yeah, think making it to the finish line is um is' a great achievement already. It sure is. And then just some other quick shout outs for notable results from OCC on the Aussie side is we had both third and fourth place in the women's 50 to 54 category. And that was Kerry Clayton. She came in third.
00:39:50
Speaker
And Natasha Pertwee came in fourth. um They were both in that same category. And then i' I'm just going to mention for each of the races, we'll do top five in category. So Steven Moon, um Aussie came in fifth in the 65 to 69 category. So go Steve.
00:40:10
Speaker
um That sounds amazing. um And then, yeah, that was ah that was OCC for us. Now, I just realized i was thinking of starting at the start of the week and the shorter ones, but we might um save all them for the end and then go straight to CCC.
CCC Race Overview
00:40:30
Speaker
So CCC, did you you did you watch much of this at all, or Brodie? I think this is probably the one I saw the least of just because I was out all day, but I was sort of just keeping an eye on the results, particularly like looking at the women's results and seeing how Beth and Juliet were going. It was cool to sort of follow them along during the day.
00:40:51
Speaker
Yeah, definitely. I didn't really watch much of the footage. um So I didn't i didn't really get all the front of the race, really. I wasn't really following that much apart from Francesco sort of just running really strongly. um But ah at one point, it looked like he had a big, big gap. But I guess he he only he won by seven minutes at the end, which is not ah ah a huge gap. But he was out the front all day.
00:41:12
Speaker
Yeah, not a huge gap, but certainly significant enough that he probably, like, when it's a big gap that big, if anything even slow starts to go awry, you kind of conserve as opposed to keep pushing. So, yeah.
00:41:25
Speaker
yeah Yeah, and then the women, like, i because I was looking at the women results, like, it was tight all day and and they were running really fast. um Oh, yeah. yeah, that was that was cool to watch as well. Oh yeah. The women's was like the race. Like it was, I was not following until I got back and was happily exhausted from my own run. But like, as you look at it, it was even, i did watch the finish of this one. Cause I'm like, holy moly, this is tight.
00:41:51
Speaker
um So, yeah, just quickly on the men's side, Francesco won in 10 hours and six minutes, David Sinclair second in 10 hours, 13, and Drew Holman third in 10 hours, 16. sixteen But on the women's side, um they ran a lot faster than last year. I think like about 20 minutes or what is it, about 16, 15, 16 minutes faster than last year.
00:42:11
Speaker
But last year's second place, Martina Milnacic, She got the win in 11.41.55, but only 18 seconds back was Sylvia Nordska. And that even at the top of Fliger, there was like 20 seconds between the two. Like it wasn't um it was so close that you were like, oh, who's actually going to come in?
00:42:32
Speaker
And then it was only a minute 40 or so. um back to Anna Tarasova in third in 11 hours, 44.18. Because yeah, like even Blundeen, Lirindale, she was fourth, 11.53. Like all four of them would won last year, which was already damn good race.
00:42:52
Speaker
um So yeah, super close racing at the front. It was I'm really sad to see Tony McCann last year's winner. um I love Tony. And she took a fall and DNF'd at Shumpe.
00:43:06
Speaker
um I think it was Shumpe. And then there was there was quite a bit of carnage um at the front end when you look at sort of the names that were on the start list versus the DNFs. But um still, those that ah those that managed to hold on held on well.
00:43:23
Speaker
And that also goes for our Aussie females, which... I'm counting Beth McKenzie in because she lives in Oz. Obviously, Beth is American.
00:43:36
Speaker
um But Beth McKenzie came in in 34th. four um It was cool to see them finish one after the other, actually. um Because, yeah, Beth came in 34th in 14 hours, 12 minutes, and then Juliet's, or 14, 12, 40, and then Juliet only 80 seconds back in 35th position, um which is super strong runs from both of them. Like if you look at the people that are around them, um I know Madeline Hawkins well, um who was just ahead of them. And then there's a there's a whole bunch of like known names still in the area.
00:44:11
Speaker
of where they finished because of how stacked this race is. So really cool runs for them to pull off. I know Beth, I don't know if you guys have seen her um Instagrams or anything, but she's certainly had some ankle problems um in the back half.
00:44:25
Speaker
And Juliet, haven't had a chance to see um anything, but very strong runs. Yeah, and Beth was at one point, in 14th um so she was quite high up um but yeah i think yeah those ankle troubles in the in the second half meant that she finished a bit lower but she still did such a good job to finish in like quite a respectable time and placing still so it was a solid run um and i haven't read juliet's yet but she has a sub stack up if people were interested to have a read about her race um but i think yeah she was excited to get out there and
00:44:59
Speaker
have her first two experience and and she was doing some writing beforehand saying that she was feeling good to just get out there and experience it and and not be too stressed about the competition. So, yeah, I'm looking forward to having a read of that, but I haven't yet.
00:45:12
Speaker
Yeah, love that. Love that. Did you speak to either of them oh um on the finish line, Vlad, or anyone from CCC? We haven't been through the men yet. No, no. i mean, this was um Friday night, so I was um packing there. Oh, yeah, of course.
00:45:25
Speaker
And I was a bit over UTMB by that point. Yeah. but Fair, um because, yeah, on the men's side, we did have Joshua Chug as our top finisher, um and he ran 12 hours, 59.42. So I'm going to say well done on breaking that 13 hours, Josh, because I'm sure that you would have been running into the finish line thinking about that possibly.
00:45:47
Speaker
Possibly. um But he came 52nd, but third in his category. So top three um category. I'm not entirely, I didn't actually write down what category that was. So um that was not good by me.
00:46:03
Speaker
um But yeah, that's ah another super strong run by Josh. I don't actually know Josh well, um do but have you seen anything from him, Brody? No, I haven't seen anything from Josh.
00:46:15
Speaker
from josh um But yeah, I was, like I said, CCC, I wasn't following as, as much. Yeah, that's fine. But, um, Joshua used to be, um, an elite cyclist.
00:46:25
Speaker
And then he's, he was actually, um, he's from Perth. He lives in Queensland now. Um, they moved a couple of years with his family. Um, but yeah, he's a running coach. Um,
00:46:36
Speaker
Yeah, was a pretty good cyclist and then he started running, I'd like to say, in his early 40s or maybe like late 30s. And, um yeah, he wins actually a lot of races in Australia, won a few bigger ones in Australia. been to world champs for us.
00:46:53
Speaker
um Yeah, that's right. and He's a really talented endurance athlete and, yeah, does well obviously now in his age category but still very competitive overall in,
00:47:05
Speaker
in in Australia. Yeah, yeah, and that was the 40 to 44 category that he came third in. um And I was going to say he comes up as Team Bix, so I would hope you know him, Vlad,
00:47:20
Speaker
on the results. ah But, yes, that is the – ah top Aussie results from CCC, um which maybe we'll just go up to TDS as we go up in distances where we had Mayo Backhausen. He came 22 hours and minutes, which,
00:47:43
Speaker
yeah just As someone that really looks forward to the day I get to do these things, every time I read out like 22 hours and something or 26 or 30 hours, I'm just like, oh, I really got to prepare myself for this stuff.
00:47:56
Speaker
um And then on the women's side, we actually had Fiona Castle, who was female, first female. but she was first in the women's 60 to 64 category in 38 hours and 23 minutes and not too far behind her was also Aussie Leanne McLaughlin who was second in the women's 60 to 64 category in 38 hours and 54 minutes so we had first and second in that women's category in TDS which go Aussies um the the um
00:48:31
Speaker
more mature age groups are really shining through for us Aussies over in UTMB. It might take some life hardening to get through a good bunch of these this terrain um when you're not used to it.
00:48:42
Speaker
So ah yeah, well done to them. Then um the the big one, the very, very big one, UTMB. um On the race as a whole side, um from following the live stream and then following some of the um ah race comms and everything, they did have to mildly change the race by about 2Ks and I think they said about 250 metres of gain um to avoid a high point, I believe, or like a point that they didn't want people going through in the weather because the weather for quite a while,
00:49:19
Speaker
was quite abysmal with rain, cold and up high. If you were up high at the time, it was snowing quite a bit. um So I know that became a big factor in the race outcome as a whole, but then also um ah quite a high DNF rate.
00:49:35
Speaker
In a way, I'm not sure how many DNF every year, but I think about a third of the field didn't make it around the full loop, which, um yeah, when you saw what some of what they were running through on that first night, um I do not imagine that was easy for anyone.
Ruth Croft's UTMB Women's Race Victory
00:49:52
Speaker
um But on the women's side, UTMB was won by the amazing Ruth Croft, which – almost Aussie, Kiwi, like Oceania.
00:50:04
Speaker
um But that was ahri like it was a hard fought win in the, um sorry, was there was a lot of battle going on early between Ruth and ah Courtney. But then i can't remember exactly at what point, but Courtney did start to drop off quite a lot, um which is obviously surprising because I feel like we don't see that that much from Courtney.
00:50:27
Speaker
um She just seems to get it right all the time. But this time round, she did stick it out and come 10th. um So kudos to her for finishing it off because there'd be plenty of people that wouldn't.
00:50:38
Speaker
But up the front was Ruth Croft, 22 hours, 56 minutes. Camille Brouillard in second in 23, 28, which the French would have loved being a French woman. And then Katharina Hartmuth in third in 24 hours and 16.
00:50:55
Speaker
Top Aussie result, which was the top Aussie result over overall because it's an incredible run, was by Lucy Bartholomew, who was up in fourth for so long.
00:51:06
Speaker
um I don't think from following along she ever quite made it into the top three um because it seemed as Courtney dropped back, Katharina moved up. um But she was there or thereabouts. And in this race, ah this is in my memory at least the closest I've seen a good bunch of these women because from fourth all the way back to ninth is only like – ah from yeah From fourth or the back to ninth is like 20 minutes or 25 minutes, um which a race of this distance is pretty damn close.
00:51:42
Speaker
And so, yeah, Lucy was seventh in 24 hours, 51 minutes. So again, only like 10 minutes off fourth. um And I believe that's an hour faster again than her time last year, which was two hours than the time the year before, both of which she came top 10. So um getting better every year.
00:52:01
Speaker
But yeah, did you guys watch much of this? I saw bits and pieces, but I, um again, didn't really... follow a lot like it's it's quite hard to follow a race that goes for 20 hours I know because you need 20 hours spare so maybe if you're at home it's the weekend you're doing some chores you've got it on the background I feel like trail running might work for that but like when you just want to sit down and like, because if you sit down and watch it for half an hour, it's pretty slow watching.
00:52:31
Speaker
Like it's not really that interesting or engaging because you're only seeing one small, you're seeing 5% of the race or 3% of the race. And and it's just like them there's a lot of filler content because they've got to talk for a long time.
00:52:45
Speaker
So unless you get the real action packed bits, but like, yeah it's for me it's like it's a hard watch when you can only watch a little bit so again i was mostly following on the results but i did see bits and pit pieces because i was interested to see like what does the weather look like and and that sort of thing um yeah and i actually what run dice did with like saying what the estimated time that they would be interesting watching locations i thought was really cool that when they published their sort of timeline they said this is when they go through this specific area and it's really interesting to watch because of this
00:53:18
Speaker
raisin And I think like that's maybe something that like they need to highlight a little bit more either the people who are talking about UTMB or UTMB themselves saying, hey, look, you should log on at this time and you'll see this part of the course or whatever it is because it's it's a hard watch. But anyway, that's ah that's a separate aside.
00:53:37
Speaker
it was It was great to watch and like watching Lucy, it was super exciting. Like I was, as we said, like last week, she looked like she was in great form. She's obviously had two really good performances the last two years and her form probably wasn't as good and I think she tried to admit that.
00:53:55
Speaker
Whereas this year she looked like she'd been training really well. um She looked like she was in really good form and and that sort of showed, I think, on the day. And it's pretty cool to see an Australian up in the in the top five at the the biggest miler in the world, maybe apart from Western States, those two can have a bit of a competition. I'm still saying it's the biggest.
00:54:18
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. It's one I find more interesting, that's for sure. It's a trail race. Western States is a running race. Yeah. Oh, no, there'll be people that argue with you're with you on that one. But at the same time, um yeah, I'm with you. I think for me, this was just especially watching, i watched the end um more less so of because Ruth won by quite a, like there's bigger time gaps, like half an hour um there. But then From Anna Carlson, like I was watching all the way back until um Claudia Tremps who, um because it was like in half an hour of watching, you got to see them all come through.
00:54:58
Speaker
And even the on the live, they were like, well, look, because of the distance of the race, like, yes, there was gap there was this small gaps up at the top of Flaget, but they're like, that doesn't mean much at all in a race of this distance because it depends who's got legs.
00:55:13
Speaker
Because I think Lucy was fourth or fifth at probably fifth, maybe at the top. um But then a couple got passed by a couple on the way down Fleijer, but still obviously held on incredibly strong.
00:55:24
Speaker
um But that would have been Some fun racing in a miler, being quite close ah that deep back and or like that for that amount back in the field.
00:55:35
Speaker
um But, yeah, that was certainly certainly fun to watch as an Aussie, seeing there some Aussie pride going on at the front of the field, which, um yeah, on the men's side, as we move into the men's, ah Tom Evans got the win and it was quite an emphatic win again, about half
Tom Evans' UTMB Men's Race Victory
00:55:52
Speaker
an hour.
00:55:52
Speaker
feel like, I don't know if this is just my observation, but it feels like quite often at UTMB, whoever wins is having an outstandingly good day. Like they're way ahead quite often. um But that might just be the last couple of years as I've paid more attention. So um when you're on a good one, you're on a good one.
00:56:10
Speaker
Now, I do feel kind of bad for Tom in the way that the course was very mildly changed. And the course record was 19 hours 27 or is it 37 even?
00:56:23
Speaker
um Like the course record was quite a bit slower than what he ran, but the course was slightly different, like by 2K. So, it can't really be the official course record when it was a different course, but at the same time you was a bloody fast run.
00:56:38
Speaker
um And I'd almost put it as going, well, he pretty much took down Jim Wormsley's course record. jim's well jim walmsley's course record So either way. um Yeah, I feel like a course record at UTMB is...
00:56:53
Speaker
sort of like a course record at UTA these days is is that the course is always different because of changes slight changes they have to make to avoid this stairs or at UTMB they've got to avoid this pass or this trails down or the weather's not good so they can't go up there like yeah I can't see it's it's if you think of like the next 10 years it's it's probably like maybe four of those years they'll run the exact same course and yeah they'll probably run it maybe more frequently than some other races but Like it's still not, it's not a super, I don't know how many people are thinking about course records at UTMB versus the win is the most important thing um because because of those subtle changes in courses and that sort of stuff compared to maybe some more standalone races that are in
00:57:38
Speaker
slightly less intense places or have like UTMB is constrained by the sheer number of people that are doing it they have to make it like their safety issue is is super high and they've got really fast people running it compared to people who are taking quite a bit longer so they've got a varied field as well um yeah so yeah I think like it's it is a shame but I also think like course records are probably not as important but True, but I just feel like they're celebrated heaps when they happen.
00:58:09
Speaker
Yes, yeah. so yeah yeah Well, that's because that the commentators need something to talk about because the the content goes for so long.
00:58:19
Speaker
But I actually thought it was it was cool to Tom Evans. He was talking in an interview beforehand and he's a new dad last this year, I think, and he was sort of saying how ah his mindset seemed to have shifted a little bit. I don't know how much of it was for the interview and and that sort of thing or like it's hard to tell with those sorts of things but seemed fairly genuine.
00:58:39
Speaker
um But he was saying that like if he had to like be the best at trail running and maybe this like will be about how he feels about that record thing is like if he had a choice between the best being the best trail runner in the world or being the best dad in the world, it would be like the easiest choice and he would obviously choose being the best dad. Like that's what he wants to do. So like,
00:58:59
Speaker
Yeah, yeah. I think for him, like, getting the win would be amazing and hopefully he's not too upset. and And I'm sure he knows that, like, he'd look at that and go, well, I probably was, like, on for a course record if it was the same course.
00:59:12
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, 100%. Like, I'm not sure he cares. um It's just, yeah. And he's been immortalised on this very popular podcast from Australia, so... and Very much so. Very much so. Either way, either way Tom had a brilliant run, possibly one of the possibly the best UTMB run that has been seen. And then Ben DeMann was second, who I think won Laverado.
00:59:37
Speaker
um Yes. yeah memory In a course record, I think. I think in a course record too, yeah. So it's like, um yeah, could have seen this coming if you'd been following along on that one. But, yeah, he's from the US s and he ran 1951.
00:59:51
Speaker
And then in third was another, Tom's from Great Britain, and in third was another athlete from Great Britain, Josh Wade. So they had a great day. um And Josh Wade ran 20 hours and five minutes.
01:00:03
Speaker
um And then, yeah, the names just keep going. G-Duo. in fourth, Thibaut Garivier was the top Frenchman in fifth, followed very closely or not very closely, followed next position by Ludovic Pomeroy, who I don't know if you guys feel, I love Ludovic Pomeroy and following him along.
01:00:23
Speaker
He was an interesting one to follow along the race because he started so much further back and just moved through the field, um which was very cool to like watch.
01:00:33
Speaker
Like it felt like you were tracking a masterclass in like how to move up the field um and start conservative. So – um Yeah, that was cool. And then for our top Aussie on the men's side, we unfortunately didn't have much luck. um And I will say on the women's side too, we we mentioned Emily Brunt and Chantel Smith. Both of them did not finish, did not make it around.
01:00:58
Speaker
On the men's side, um I was very closely tracking Michael Dunstan, seeing how he would go. he unfortunately was also DNF, as was Nigel Hill, as was Matthew Dunn.
01:01:10
Speaker
So unfortunately your your mantra last week of Matthew Dunn getting it done didn't quite work, Brodie. um Maybe cursed him. um Maybe, maybe. But either way, yeah.
01:01:24
Speaker
ah There's so many reasons you can have a tough race out there. But our top male Aussie that did finish was Chris Lenkic in 68th, running 26 hours, 46 minutes. So an incredibly strong run um by him.
01:01:39
Speaker
And, yeah, shout out to him for being top Aussie along the top auszzsie male along the way because, yeah, Lucy got the top Aussie by a long way. Yeah. in the end um but yeah any other any more observations or anyone you got to chat to from UTMB you were out of there by then weren't you Vlad um yeah I was pretty much running the VK when they started um so I was in the VK and I could hear them um you know starting UTMB but yeah by that point when they finished were already gone yeah yeah did you follow along at all or just were you done with it by then around but that point I had to catch up on so many emails and stuff like that that um
01:02:19
Speaker
yeah Fair, fair, fair. um Well, yes, that is the the big race um the u of UTMB. um Now, the only other quick ones I'll mention um was the other races we had was MCC.
01:02:35
Speaker
um Top Aussie at MCC was Owen Lancelot, who I mentioned last week um is ah as a runner with a stoma. So, yeah. Very cool to see him get across the line. And also Mick Marshall did finish MCC. He's another adaptive athlete um in 10 hours 21.
01:02:56
Speaker
And then in ETC, which ah people following along from last week would have heard Nath speak before he had this race. So Nath didn't quite have the day that he wanted and he came in 58th in an hour 48.
01:03:14
Speaker
I haven't actually had a chance to chat to him. Have you, Brodie? ah No, I didn't chat to him but it looked like from his socials that he wasn't. um particularly happy although he had just got off a plane so um it would have been a tough race to do straight off the plane um oh yeah so i think it's hopefully given a bit of fire for the next few weeks of training and um yeah i'm sure he'll be ah in good great shape by the time worlds comes around and he'll he'll have a he'll have a better day and i think that's what's more important for him anyway so this was a bit of shakeout
01:03:49
Speaker
For sure. And it is it's just the sort of steepness and terrain that when it's your first time seeing it, especially quite possibly, like it's a different type of race. Like it it's a pretty pretty gnarly short race where you have to be moving damn quick on very tough terrain to move fast on.
01:04:08
Speaker
However, on the women's side, um we had Jess Short and Jess came twenty six which is already great result on the women's side in this race. But she won her category of 40 to 44 female and she ran two hours and two minutes.
01:04:25
Speaker
So super strong run there by Jess Short. I think she is based over in Europe somewhere. Um, but yeah, epic run there. And also we had Victoria Boyd, um, another second in category and this time in the 60 to 64, um, women in two hours, 57. So shout out to Victoria and, uh, uh, Victoria, uh, Victoria and Jess.
01:04:52
Speaker
And then, um, Overall in this race, it was won by Elaine Santamaria in an hour 21. And I'm going to give a massive shout out to Madalena Floria because she came first in an hour 30, 55. So won by seven minutes, which it's a shorter race. So that's a huge win um because like Elaine only won by one minute.
01:05:18
Speaker
But also an hour 30 put her in top 20 overall. twenty overall men or was she 21st? She was like just outside the top 20, I think, which in a 15K race, that's a very strong run.
01:05:32
Speaker
um So very cool to see. And she was saying how she she had fun battling against the men at the end and just trying to see how many she could pass. I'm like, yeah, the ladies. um So very cool results.
01:05:44
Speaker
um Anything else from UTMB week? Any other observations other than the fact it was crazy busy? um I do know, as usual, there'll be many stories from the trail of um good times, bad times, bottlenecks, wait times, and a few people. I've seen a few comments online that are like just people waiting for the field to sort of thin out later into the race and then enjoy it a bit more um because it is, the trails do get very, very busy, um but cool atmosphere to be around.
01:06:14
Speaker
And um yeah, final thoughts, Vlad? No, it was good fun, obviously. It gets bigger and bigger with every year. And yeah, I don't know where this race is going to be in like 10 years time because I feel like, yeah, since I started visiting that race and being there to now, it's like two complete different worlds. And um yeah, it's it's a beast right now.
01:06:38
Speaker
Well, yeah, has like it surely it can't get much bigger. like that's I suppose that's one of the problems in a way of going it's already so big that it's still a brilliant experience, but at the same time that that obviously causes problems for the the area, the the
Speculations on UTMB's Future
01:06:56
Speaker
cost.
01:06:56
Speaker
the um access to trails and those sorts of things in terms of um ah I know a lot more of the women get held up and there's not as there's nowhere near as many women as men on the trails already um but yeah surely it can't get much bigger like the capacity of the trails and everything like yeah what do what do you reckon is going to happen there Vlad?
01:07:17
Speaker
I don't know. ah I really don't know where this is heading to. Obviously, Ironman is is a business focused organization with profit being the main goal. um But yeah, I'm not sure. Maybe it needs to be spread out a bit more.
01:07:32
Speaker
um You know, they kind of do it in five days, maybe it needs to be spread out in seven days and kind of like, yeah, I feel like also an accommodation, like it's just so tough to get accommodation in Chamonix and the towns around it. So maybe like spreading it out a tiny bit more would make sense because people like I've spoken to a few people who wanted to be volunteers, but they couldn't even be a volunteer because it's like a waitlist to be a volunteer.
01:07:58
Speaker
um ah So obviously they could get enough people out there to support those seven or eight races they have, maybe just spreading it out a little bit more um using the full weekend. I'm not sure. Well, we've already seen Kona be split, men's and women's.
01:08:17
Speaker
Yeah, mean, that's a possibility as well, right, to... even if they spread their start time by a couple of hours or by a day, there is a bit more space there because UTMB starts um Friday afternoon.
01:08:32
Speaker
um Yeah, so it could, yeah, there is an extra day that they could spread some the races. But yeah, it was busy. Like it's like you said, it's almost becoming like a little bit too much. And yeah,
01:08:44
Speaker
And, yeah, just very commercialised and um just so, so busy. So it would be nice maybe if it was a bit more spread out. Yeah, we'll see. It has pros and cons of that. For me it's a lot of fun for a short period of time.
01:08:58
Speaker
But certainly if I was racing I'd want to be getting out of town pretty quickly um before the race and to not exhaust myself and those sorts of things. So, yeah, cool opportunities but everything has pros and cons, that's for sure. so Tying up UTMB.
01:09:16
Speaker
Do you know what happened with PTO with Millie and Charlie Young? Oh, yeah, of course. It says on their Instagram they came fourth, but in the results I can't see them, so I don't know what's going there. Oh, really? Okay. Well, yeah, like don't know if I'm just no good at reading the results.
01:09:31
Speaker
and No, the results definitely don't have them. So I was about to say I don't think they finished. but Well, yeah, because the only reason I looked it up because they were in one point they were in first. um Yeah, I knew they were winning at some point.
01:09:44
Speaker
And they they were on the UTMB like Instagram with like a video of them, which was really cool. um And yeah, but by Instagram, it says they came fourth and they were the first in the mixed category. But I don't know ah exactly what's going on on the results side here unless they're under something I can't find.
01:10:04
Speaker
But yeah, maybe fourth. Yeah. When I searched them up in the results, something must have gone wrong with their timing because it actually says they're still on race and the time is still going up. Okay. Yeah, that must have gone, I guess.
01:10:18
Speaker
That was certainly confusing me. But, yes, I am now looking at the Strava. So, yeah, four fourth place overall and first place in the mixed category, which I'm going to assume means Millie might have been the first woman across the line um if the top three were male teams. Yeah, let me have a look at that. I should be able to confirm that.
01:10:35
Speaker
Oh, there you go. You can confirm that for me. Looks like all the other teams in the top that are on the UTMB results anyway, that all seem to be male teams. Perfect.
01:10:46
Speaker
Well then, yeah, first mixed team. And all close. Like the the Swiss team that wins, wins by 20 hours, which I don't know if that's a glitch or if that's that's right. And then the rest of the teams are all really close. Like,
01:10:59
Speaker
split by very small margins. So, um yeah, it's quite interesting to see how close all the other teams were and they were in the mix of that. So it would have been a fun race, I'm sure. Yeah, damn.
01:11:10
Speaker
If they did win by 20 hours, that's kind of wild. But also this is the kind of race where you can win by 20 hours if you're willing to. it is They did do it in 78 hours as opposed to 98.
01:11:23
Speaker
so Yeah. yeah Although they must know they must be wrong because um in this Instagram post for Millie, it says 95 hours on the course. So if they came fourth overall in 95 hours, then those ninety eight s are wrong.
01:11:37
Speaker
Okay, maybe the results are just messed. We won't worry about them. result we do We'll just ignore those ones and say, Aussie team came Instagram is right.
01:11:47
Speaker
um Perfect. Yeah, thanks for ringing that one up, Nath. ah Oh, my God, you're not Nath, you're Brody.
01:11:54
Speaker
I'm going to blame jet lag on all of that. Anyways, bringing it back home to Australia um to bring it back into hometown.
Wonderland Run Highlights
01:12:03
Speaker
We had Wonderland run.
01:12:05
Speaker
um Wonderland out in the Grampians. Very, very cool race. Grampians always a beautiful place to run. um And there we had the 20K, which was won by Rachel Ayers in 2 Hours 20 on the women's side and Tara Brick, who is my cousin, um in second on 2 Hours 39 and Monique Holmes in 2 Hours 52 in third.
01:12:26
Speaker
For the men, it was Owen Williams in 2 Hours flat, Josh Cameron in second in 2 0 4 and Emmanuel Ray in 2 0 9. Then there was the 37K, which was won by Susan Cooney.
01:12:40
Speaker
Second place was Jay Baker and third place, Hilary von Maltzan in the men's. James Ball in first, Keith Smith in second, and James Holm in third.
01:12:52
Speaker
Now the fifty k the longer one of the day. um The women's side was won in emphatic fashion by Bridie Temple um Now, she ran five hours, 26.48, which did put her fourth overall and only a minute behind third um male.
01:13:10
Speaker
So brilliant run there by Bridie because second female was then seven hours, 18. So almost two hours behind 18. um 7 hours 18.23 for Dawn Reynolds.
01:13:21
Speaker
And in third was Mariam Mayday in 7 hours 31. So yeah, Ripper Run there by Bridie on the men's side won by George Knight.
01:13:33
Speaker
Again, a pretty decent win in 4 hours 55 ahead of Joe Dorff in 5 hours 19 and Chris Wilder in 5 hours 25 in third, just ahead of Bridie.
01:13:46
Speaker
um Have either of you done this one? Brodie, have you done Wonderland? haven't done Wonderland, but i've ah like as in the race, but I've done one of the courses that they used to do. um I've done the 37K course or similar.
01:14:00
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah, it's beautiful. And I think I've done the 20 as well, actually. um Just, yeah, could good little loops to head out. And I think both of them I did as an effort back in the day at some point.
01:14:12
Speaker
Nice. Yeah, pretty cool. It's in that central part of the Grampians around Halls Gap. So, yeah, probably some of the most spectacular trails and views.
01:14:23
Speaker
um Not as wild as some of the other sections, um but still pretty technical in in places. So, um yeah, pretty cool, pretty cool place. Like the fifty k ah is probably a little bit more runnable than the GPT-50K, but it's a bit more healy, I think. Maybe it's got a little bit more vert.
01:14:45
Speaker
um So it might be comparable time-wise, maybe a little bit faster because it's just a bit more runnable. And probably the weather really at GPT is the main difference because it's later in the year. So um yeah i think this one would be a nice one to go and do because the Grampians in winter are up.
01:15:02
Speaker
beautiful um the views are epic and you're probably less likely to swelter on in the heat as me and you both did last year that was not quite so much fun um awesome well yeah that was our trail results um and then there was a road result which brodie you want to talk about it Yeah, so we had Sydney Marathon on the weekend um and we are a trail running podcast, but we did have some trail runners doing
Sydney Marathon Trail Runners
01:15:34
Speaker
it. It was Sydney Marathon was joining um the World Majors Circuit. This was their sort of first year. So it was a big deal in the road running scene. If you hadn't heard, they had people like Elliot Kipchoge and Safan Hassan running.
01:15:50
Speaker
um So pretty cool that that was going down in Sydney. And we had a few We'll claim them as trail runners, although I think Fraser's run a lot more on the road this year than he has in the trails, but he is going to World Champs.
01:16:02
Speaker
Exactly. Going to World Champs. So Fraser, we'll claim him as our own still, but Fraser ran very impressive time. um He'd been training the absolute house down. Every time we got him on, he's been talking about his crazy training, and then he seems to go away and step it up a little bit more. So, um yeah, he's been training great.
01:16:21
Speaker
very very well um he came fourth australian 18th overall um and this is fourth australian in a very strong field because there's a lot of money on the line um so he did a very good job he was only two just over two minutes behind brett robertson um who is one of best marathon runners in australia he ran 217 24 which i think was a pb for him as well a bit faster than he ran at ballarat um so yeah very impressive from Fraser there. And we also had Leo Pesserson running, um recently signed with Brooks, and I think running in this on behalf of Brooks, but he ran in some Brooks shoes and a suit ah because Leo never does anything yeah ah easy. So he, ah yeah, he ran ah suit. He went after the world record for fastest marathon in a suit. I'm not sure for sure if that's
01:17:18
Speaker
He got it, but he did run. So he didn't have enough time to like pull it out of the application. You have to do a whole bunch of paperwork before and you do the chem. And he didn't have enough time to do all that because obviously this was probably a last minute decision knowing Leo.
01:17:32
Speaker
um yeah So he knew it wasn't going to count as the Guinness world record, but he just went and did it anyway. Yeah, I heard him. He was on ah Inside Running podcast, did a like a preview and and Brooks were sponsoring it. So they actually had Leo there talking about it. And he said,
01:17:47
Speaker
I might, this is like two days before and he's like, I might do something stupid like run in a suit. So it was obviously, ah ah he was thinking about it, but it was a last minute decision. But he, yes, an unofficial world record attempt and he ran two hours 30, 36, which I think is probably quicker than I would be running a marathon at the moment. um So very impressive from Leo running in a suit and the footage looks hilarious. So I'm not sure if it's giving us a good or a bad name in trail running, but maybe we just won't claim him to officially.
01:18:19
Speaker
Oh, there we go. So the record, according to Guinness World Records, is two hours, 39 minutes. So he would have got it. home but That's very quick. I can't imagine running 5K in a suit, let alone a marathon. But yeah.
01:18:34
Speaker
Good on him. Did you see either of these, Vlad? Were you tracking Fraser? Yeah, definitely. Yeah, it' was good to see Fraser come forth. I mean, it's a really good result. And I think he's actually to do well at the World Champs because he's got a bit of elevation while he was here in Europe. And yeah, a couple more weeks of just getting his legs <unk>re ready for the downhills. And he could have a good result at the World Champs. So I'm actually really looking forward to seeing him race a couple of weeks in Spain.
01:19:03
Speaker
How long until world champs now? Four weeks. Okay. Do you think, like, and this is just me spitballing here, but for me, because I pull up so much worse from a road marathon, that would hurt me for a race four weeks later.
01:19:19
Speaker
Yeah, but Fraser's running 200Ks a week and he's doing close to marathons. like some of it Remember last time we had him on and he was doing that special block session? True.
01:19:31
Speaker
his His body is tolerating. hard running for two hours, multiple times a week. So I imagine, yes, it'll be maybe a little bit harder than his training, but I think he'll bounce back pretty quick is my guess.
01:19:44
Speaker
True. No, I certainly hope he question is more like, how does he, how efficiently does, how well does that translate into running an uphill race?
01:19:55
Speaker
I think probably fairly well, but maybe it's slightly different systems. But um I think that'll translate well. I think the The up and down might be the trickier one for ah Fraser, but I'm expecting him to hopefully be able to run quite well in the in the uphill. And hopefully he can get a little bit of downhill in the legs because the the up-down is that looped race. So it's got the two loops of the same. So you do have to do a downhill and then go back up again, which is always a bit tough.
01:20:21
Speaker
um So, yeah, we'll see. But he's done a lot of pounding on the road, so hopefully that hopeful that a but accounts for pounding downhill as well. Yeah, he's hoping.
Upcoming Interviews and Australian Trail Running Scene
01:20:33
Speaker
He's hoping. We are um looking to get Nath, Fraser and Ian Best as a team together on an episode before World Champs to all have a chat.
01:20:42
Speaker
So we'll hear from the man himself. um Yeah, that'll be super interesting to hear from those three because they're very like different approaches and different athletes.
01:20:53
Speaker
um So, yeah, that'll be. And i'm I'm really interested to see how actually like the matchup between I know obviously the like they're racing the others in the world, but there will be a bit of a race ah within the race, I reckon, about who gets the first Australian over the line. And ah i'm excited I'm excited to see that race because I think like Fraser's sort of incredible speed on the roads versus Ian's really good climbing versus Nate's sort of specific preparation. And, yeah, it's going to be really interesting to see that match up.
01:21:22
Speaker
Yeah. Yep, and for anyone that hasn't noticed, we do have lots of interviews coming out at the moment and plenty more to come as we try and chat to every single person on the team that is going to world champs or as many as we can ah that want to um give us their time. So, yeah keep an eye out for more of them as they come through and get behind the Aussies because it's now getting closer um and it is the next big, big thing on the global calendar. in Although actually Golden Trail World Series final is...
01:21:53
Speaker
bit before it, I think. But is it before or after? Or am I wrong there? It's after. It's after. What am I saying? um Again, we're going blame jet lag. um So yes, it is the next big thing on the calendar being in September.
01:22:06
Speaker
um But for what's coming up on the Aussie calendar this week, it is six foot track week. Which is odd to say. It's come back. At this time of year. Sneaky.
01:22:18
Speaker
But, yeah, it's snuck up on us now. um But, yeah, six-foot track, which was um taken out due to weather, flooding, something along those lines, um from its usual spot back in March.
01:22:30
Speaker
got rescheduled to this week. So that has certainly snuck up on us because it is usually a huge race or a like very competitive race down here in Oz. So we'll have results from that one next week.
01:22:40
Speaker
Also on is Coastal Classic, very cool race in New South Wales, Light Horse Ultra, which is over in WA, isn't it, Vlad? Yeah, it's a bit of a loop and then seeing how seeing how many laps you can do in an hour, three hours, six hours. Oh, nice. 2012 and 24th.
01:22:57
Speaker
twenty twelve and twenty four Cool. One of those fun ones. And then Cleland Trail Run in South Australia and Kununye Trail Series also going. So plenty of races to get around um on the Aussie scene.
01:23:12
Speaker
um but And then Hounslow only two weeks away, which I think there's a good number of names rocking up to that people would know. So plenty coming. Yeah, and James and I, and and I think we're going to get Jo on from Singletrack,
01:23:26
Speaker
I'm going to do a little preview episode for that. So that'll probably be out sometime next week because there is some big names across the board, including Simone Brick. But um yeah, particularly I'll give you little tease. I think the men's 17K, if everyone shows up, is going to be A good little show, I think, with some with a good head-to-head.
01:23:47
Speaker
Oh, fun. But I'm going to spoil it. Oh, nice. don't Don't spoil it for sure. And definitely I'm um now looking forward to hearing that episode. um But I haven't actually seen who else is running. All I know is that you they usually do get a good field and I have no idea what my body is going to give me on the day because I don't know where I'm sitting. So we'll have fun.
01:24:07
Speaker
You'll to listen to our episode then, Sim. I will. I will listen to the episode. See how it goes down. um Awesome. Awesome. Well,
Altitude Training Experiment and Closing Remarks
01:24:16
Speaker
they those episodes will be coming out soon. And as for us, yeah, you two will still be go gallivanting about traveling. I'll be trying to figure out an altitude sleeping tent.
01:24:28
Speaker
um in the next few nights, which I'll report back on next week, how it actually goes. um Not sure how it works in a double bed when there's only one of then I'm the only one that's going to be under it with the machine making noise in the room.
01:24:41
Speaker
But either way, we'll see what happens. and I might get kicked out of bed. You've got to listen. I think Jess blanking in. Stenson? Stenson, sorry. She was using an altitude tent. um There's an episode of ah Inside Running where they're talking to her about it.
01:24:58
Speaker
um So you could have a listen to that. I think she had to set up in the study because it is very loud. I think i think um the guy got it off um from High Altitude Training Australia. I think he gave me enough tubing to hopefully get the machine out of the room while we're in the room.
01:25:13
Speaker
So I do have at least some extended tubing to try that. um Well, good luck to you and, more importantly, to Matt. Yes, very much so. um The things we do to try and run either way.
01:25:27
Speaker
um And jess is in Jess is flying to Europe today, I think, or yesterday maybe, and she'd be in Font-Remo, so hopefully we'll hear from her next week. Who? Jess. Jason.
01:25:39
Speaker
Of course. mean, I'm going to say Jess. There's Jess. No, no. Yeah, sorry. I've just spoken about her, Jess, but other Jess. that's why I was like, why are you talking about Jess Stenson flying overseas? She just did the marathon. Like, come on, my brain's jet lagged.
01:25:54
Speaker
i can't switch people that quickly. Yes, I am very aware that Jess was nobody but not able to be on today because she's about to fly. um And, um yeah, we'll get to hear from her next week for how she's feeling. She said she'll have plenty of time once she's up in Font Remote preparing herself for World Champs.
01:26:12
Speaker
So that's all to look forward to next week. Vlad, what have you got coming up? Anything exciting? Just as much breath as I can possibly do in the next week here. Okay, give me... Give me number that you're to get. Wait, we should guess how many numbers. What's your biggest one so far, Vlad? 9,000, just over 9,000. I'll be happy with anything over 7.
01:26:35
Speaker
I think anything over 7 is good. I'm going to guess 10,000. No, no way. and nowhere i um So like the biggest hills around me are like 1,000 meters now. so Okay, all right. and I'm going to go 8,400.
01:26:47
Speaker
not that high yeah thousand four hundred ah that I'm going to go like 10 metres above whatever you did last time. ah Above 9,000. Yeah, no, whatever whatever the exact number was, he's going to go just a little bit more because I know Vlad is probably going to chase it.
01:27:06
Speaker
but And he somehow manages to get vert in at random times. wow yeah um I did a flat run this morning and I want to do a couple more because I know how important some leg turnover is as well.
01:27:20
Speaker
Yeah, fair, fair, fair. Yeah, we'll see. I'm obviously here with my family and work, so I'm just going try to make the most out of it. But, yeah, obviously I have other things to do, so would have been nice to aim for $10,000 or like some of the other runners that are going to be doing the sports course that I see on Instagram.
01:27:42
Speaker
Yeah, that'd be a fun week in training. Either way, either way, I'll try and hit as much vert as I can while recovering from jet lag in Australia, which will not be much. um So thank you, everyone, for listening. Hear about all of that next week when we get you back on the pod.
01:27:56
Speaker
um And I hope you've enjoyed this review of UTMB and everything that went down. But this has been Episode 73 the Peaky Seats Podcast. Thanks for listening. We'll speak to you next week.
01:28:08
Speaker
See you, guys. Thanks. Bye.