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Survivor Fuckery with Helen King
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In this episode, you will meet Helen King. Helen is the host of the C-Word Podcast and the owner of the HK Productions podcast management company.
In 2018, She was diagnosed with breast cancer when she was 37. After 18 months of treatment, Helen struggled to rebuild her life. Then the pandemic hit, and things really went pear-shaped. After a chance meeting with a person, She sought out a diagnosis for ADHD and was diagnosed 6 months before she turned 40. Starting her podcast and the experience of a late diagnosis of ADHD helped he stop trying to fit into a box she didn't fit into and start building a life where she could be herself.
Find Helen: hkproductionsnz.com and her podcast The C Word
Thank you for joining us Helen!
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Transcript
Helen King: A Personal Journey
00:00:00
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Thank you.
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Hello and welcome to this newest episode of the fabulous fuckery podcast. I'm here today with Helen King. Helen was diagnosed with breast cancer when she was 37. After 18 months of treatment, she struggled to rebuild her life. And then the pandemic hit.
00:00:32
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and things really went, as she calls, pear-shaped. After a chance meeting in person, she was diagnosed with ADHD within six months of turning 40. She then started a podcast, which she's going to tell you all about, and she's going to explain to you a little bit about her podcasting company, as well as living with ADHD after 40.
Connections Through Podcasting School
00:00:56
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Helen, welcome. Oh, thank you so much for having me. I feel like I'm on the podcast with the best name ever, so
00:01:02
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I'm quite excited. Well, thank you. I met Helen through the AUSA Academy Podcasting School that we did this summer. It was about eight weeks, super intense course to take our podcast to the next level. And I just thought she was badass and I wanted to share her story with you all. And Helen, please introduce yourself. Tell us more about yourself beyond your bias.
00:01:26
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I'm too dorky to be badass, but thank you. Oh, hi. Ma'am, you have fought cancer. You have developed new skills despite ADHD diagnosis. You're out here killing it. Suck in your... I'm telling you, take the accolades and suck in your badassery. Thank you.
00:01:48
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It's so, yeah, it's awesome to be here and get meeting you on at the Oster Academy was great. This is why I love about the internet is that you get to meet amazing people that you otherwise wouldn't come across. So I think it's always really funny when people explain your story because, you know, when it happens to you, you sort of think,
00:02:07
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Okay, I'll deal with it. But when you hear it sort of, someone else describing, I think, oh man, that person's being drunk. That person, that person's you, Helen.
Founding HK Productions
00:02:20
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So you have created your own company called HK Productions. What exactly do you do?
00:02:28
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Yeah, so I was thinking about this this morning, actually, because I yeah, I never thought I would be able to find something where I really fit and where I really love what I do. So my background is in journalism and communications and
00:02:48
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I never really found where I fit. I was always the square peg in a round hole. And then, you know, last year in the pandemic, like so many other people I started podcasting. I just had this idea that formed about
00:03:05
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Providing this platform where people could tell their stories about how cancer had impacted them and that morphed into my podcast the seaward radio which you know has Just opened up so many fantastic opportunities and one of them was is I discovered that I love creating podcasts and I really enjoy you know the technical aspect of it the editing and so I
00:03:31
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I just sort of took this leap where I thought, you know what? And it was one of those sort of cheesy moments in life where I was at the traffic lights and I was just thinking in my head, because I was in a job that was okay, but still didn't feel right. And I thought, God, this is probably a bit more, but I think if this cancer comes back in 10 years time, do I still want to be doing this? And do I want to look back and really regret
Life in Remission and ADHD Adaptation
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that I just didn't take this big leap and ignore the fear of failure and all of that stuff and not create something for myself that is creative and enjoyable and allows me to sort of create this lifestyle that is complementary to my ADHD rather than constantly fighting against it. And so that's kind of how it came about, yeah.
00:04:28
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I'm excited because you just naturally told us about your bucket moment. I asked our guests about the moment where they decided to start their thing. And there you go. You're like, listen, if I get cancer again.
00:04:42
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Do I want to keep doing what I'm doing or do I want to go for it and say I tried? And I love that for you. Now, if you don't mind me asking, how are we doing? How's everything doing with your post cancer? Yeah. So I'm three years post diagnosis and I had, I think I've got mixed feelings about the words people use, but I basically am in remission.
00:05:07
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Doctors would say no evidence of disease. So I, yeah, it's kind of a fuck it thing as well. You think you just got to live your life like it's not there.
00:05:19
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Well, I'm excited for you. Congratulations on being three years in remission. I know it. I just, my heart goes out to everyone who has to deal with cancer. And the fact that you're here, you have an amazing attitude. You're like, fuck it. I'm starting my own company. I'm going to do what I want to do.
00:05:38
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I got ADHD. You're just owning all of your awesomeness. Everything is you right there. I love it for you.
Advice for Aspiring Podcasters
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What do you recommend to people who want to start a podcast but don't know where to start? I would start with, what are you passionate about? What is the thing that you could talk about forever and never get sick of it? Because I feel like
00:06:07
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It's one of those things that is actually a lot more work than people realise. And so you need that topic to be something that will propel you even in those moments you think I'm tired and I can't be bothered with this. So I think that's the first
00:06:27
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It's so much work and no one like it just but it looks so sexy like I have a podcast and I made a logo and I'm going to a thing and now it's like damn I gotta edit this episode I gotta make graphics I gotta put out a press release for the next season you know it's just so many things but these are new tangible skills that I didn't have before so now I
00:06:55
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And people come to me like, and they're like, oh, can you tell us about how to start a podcast? I'm like, what? You're like, you're an expert. You know, and to be honest with you, none of us are experts because it changes so effing much. But.
00:07:08
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we have tools and you know, if you network and just be nice to someone on Instagram, they'll be able to help you take what you're doing to the next level. Yeah, exactly. And I always think I have this story of, cause I've always loved radio. I got into radio probably about a decade ago was one of my first sort of media jobs. And I think I always wanted to create something, but I didn't know how. And I,
00:07:37
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there's a local radio station where I live. And I wanted to start this radio show, but I didn't know what I wanted to do it about. So I started a radio show about art. Now I have no interest in art. I like, art's great. It's nice to look at, but I have no, I just don't know anything about art. So I'm so excited.
00:08:04
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I don't even know why I thought of it, but I, um, I called it Ash Attack. And I did about two episodes and then it just, you know, died in that true cause. And I always think. Yeah.
00:08:20
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Okay. I don't know. I just really wanted to start a radio show. And I think people thought I was artistic because I've always been a little bit odd and a little bit quirky. So you. Come on now, if you didn't like art, why did you start a radio, a whole radio show at a station or a producer in the box?
00:08:54
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You know, you enjoy going to museums, but you don't want to talk about the composition and the makeup of a painting. So that's a stretch, but you got the bug out. And now you're here with a podcast that's doing very well.
00:09:11
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and um oh my goodness I'm sorry I can't get over the fact that you didn't went to the radio station and pitched a whole show and didn't know what you were talking about that is so what you can do is teach a class on confidence how you can go into a room and claim something when you didn't know what the hell you were talking about I need that kind of confidence because I'm scared to go and talk about things I know about
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I'm sorry, I needed that laugh. I'm about to, I'm about to go pitch something down like, hey, I don't know shit about cooking, but I'm about to teach you how to cook. Oh my goodness.
Audio vs. Video: A Podcaster’s Preference
00:09:51
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So with everything you're doing for producing and helping people create podcasts, are you finding that just audio works or are you using audio and video proponents of what you're doing?
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I mostly do audio and I found with my podcast, I get more engagement, I guess on things like Facebook and Instagram and then the engagement for listening actually comes from because it does go out on a community station first and that's where people are accessing it.
00:10:28
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So I think that says more about my audience. Now, I know that I think it really depends and there are podcasts that I engage with that are doing amazing things like they will record the episode on a Facebook Live and then they will use that audio as also the podcast. So I think that it really is one of those
00:10:53
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It depends things like for some people that really works are having that video of it on YouTube is another fantastic avenue because you know, YouTube is one of the biggest search engines, you know, aside from Google. Um, but I am a firm believer and you've got to figure out what works for you. And so if video feels like just too much in an extra burden, then don't do it. Yeah.
00:11:20
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I agree with you. So it's funny when I started this, I literally wandered into a DC area creatives group. And I said, I like to start a podcast. And they're like, what do you want it to be about? And I'm like, Oh, I have seven ideas. Which one do you think is best? And I sat with this consultant. And she goes, all of these are excellent ideas. Why can't they all be one show? And I'm like,
00:11:43
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because it's all over the place. Like, I need one topic. So I came home and I narrowed it down. I scheduled recording time. I didn't have a guess. I didn't know anything about anything. I just was going to show up. And a friend of mine, I sent her a message. I was like, what are you doing tomorrow? If I buy you sushi, will you come be on my podcast? Had no plan, no execution. And I mean, this was three years ago. Podcasting has grown dramatically in the last three years.
00:12:11
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And I'm to the point now, like, is it a hobby? Do we monetize? Is this my fucking moment to leave my job and, you know, decide I want to be a full time podcaster? Like that leaping of faith and believing in yourself and your creative ability is so hard.
Embracing Individual Needs
00:12:28
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Where did you realize that you had it to make it on your own as a podcaster?
00:12:39
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I think some of it is just blind faith and that ADHD thing of just going,
00:12:48
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Because I have constant pangs of self-doubt and, you know, oh, I'm not as good as that person and those sorts of things. But do you know, it really was those two factors in my life where having the cancer was such a monumental event in my life. It changed me. It totally changed me as a person and my life path.
00:13:10
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And then being diagnosed with ADHD was another huge revelation and I realised that I had spent so much of my career struggling and thinking it was my own fault and thinking there was something really wrong with me and why couldn't I just, you know, fit in or why couldn't I keep up with other people and I realised
00:13:35
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You know, it was that other revelation of there's nothing wrong with you. Your brain just works differently and you're being unmedicated for a long time and you don't have the right tools to deal with your brain, basically. And so I thought, you know what, I'm not spending another moment of my work life having to hide who I am because I'm too much for people or because
00:14:03
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I don't like getting out of bed and I like to start my day a bit later, thank you. Because, you know, that's just the way I work. And so I feel in some ways that I'm lucky to have had those moments that have forced me to go, you can't live like this anymore. This is not honoring who you are. See, I love that. And see, you were saying, I'm not, I don't deserve to be badass, ma'am. That is a whole
00:14:33
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revelation right there where I mean and I think about myself like when I had to go like right now we've been on lockdown but you know when I had to get up in the morning and go to work and be there at a certain time and I'm like my body doesn't understand 8 a.m but if I can lay in the bed and just pull my laptop to me and I can start working my body is now thriving
00:14:57
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I'm happier. There's a new routine that doesn't involve speaking to people at my, you know, it's like, hey, Bob, and hey, John, and hey, Sam, you know, I wouldn't do that in the morning. I don't, you know, it's just like, I don't want to talk to y'all. I want to go sit in my corner and drink tea until the caffeine's kicked in and then I'll come out and be, but that's normally not until 1 30.
00:15:19
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And 130 is the end, you know, a lot of people start to leave for the day and my brain is just starting to cut on and I have all these ideas and my poor boss, I feel terrible. Cause it's like, now it's like Skype, Skype, Skype, Skype, Skype, Skype, because your brain is like, okay, cool. But now. Yeah.
00:15:37
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It's just how many of us lived our entire childhood being told that we were slow, or we were lazy, or those key words academically. And the reality was we weren't receiving the right care or the right treatment.
00:15:56
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for our personalities. Oh, she's quirky. What was it? In the 90s, you were, I'm trying to remember, it was like Zoey Deschanel and all those girls, they were like the magic girl, the manic piggy girl. You're sitting there like, I'm her. How am I her? And for me as an African-American woman, it's like, I can't relate to that. I'm black. But in reality,
00:16:19
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That's who I felt as though I was. I was all over the place and doing things and living my life. And people don't understand what that looks like. And so here we are in our 40s, embracing the lives that were denied to us in our 20s and in our 30s. And I'm so happy for you. So I do want to address something because you have an amazing accent. Tell people where you're from.
Finding Peace in Nature
00:16:45
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I am from Auckland, New Zealand. So that's why everything I say ends in an inflection and like I'm asking a question. It does. And it took me a minute. I'm like, is she talking? Is she asking me a question?
00:17:03
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No, but your voice is so calm and soothing. And, you know, so if I'm listening to you read out an art book on the public radio station, I'm like, she knows what she's talking about. Damn, I need her voice. So I do not have that calming infliction, but I adore you. And I thank you for one being brave enough to decide to try to do something new.
00:17:29
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and telling other people how you've accomplished that. Now, with everything you've got going on, how do you manage
00:17:37
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your life? What do you do to say, okay, this is my me time. This is my self-care point. What's your self-care thing? I'm constantly having to relearn that because it's not natural for me at all because my brain is so busy. It is so damn busy that I want to be, you know, I'm the person that will be scrolling, has the TV on and listening to my cows because that just sort of
00:18:04
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you know, trust my partner in that. But one of the things that is just
00:18:10
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what I need when my soul needs, you know, replenishing is that here in Auckland we are surrounded by mountain ranges. So I always have to be careful with the word I use here for American audiences because we call it bush. So going into the bush, it's a forest.
00:18:39
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There's this, I know Bush could be slang for other things. Yeah, and it's, oh, I will send you photos because it is so green and lush and quite ancient, I think there is a real
00:19:06
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grounding to it so there's a lot of tracks and we have two young energetic dogs and so for me taking them out and being in the bush and watching them run and play and harass each other for me that is my moment where I go ah okay yeah and so that's I guess that's one thing but actually
00:19:28
Speaker
Part of my self-care is not feeling the need to do things. And so I find, I think socializing has often been quite a hard thing to do because I get overwhelmed and overstimulated and now I understand why. And so not forcing myself to do things, you know, letting go of that, oh, my house is a mess, but I'm exhausted and actually what I need is rest
00:19:59
Speaker
and no one cares if my house is tied. So it's some of that stuff as well. Yeah. That's what's up. No, I'm sitting here and I'm processing what you're like. So I'm not an outdoorsy person at all. However, I like being on boats. So if you tell me we're going to get on a boat ride, I'm like, yay, I'm five years old. Like I'm going to be zoned out watching the fish in the water. But that whole going outside and socialization, I don't miss that.
00:20:29
Speaker
I don't miss it. You must be here. The cocktail hour is this day. You must wear that. I've been in leggings and t-shirts for a long time. The society norms have changed. How do we go back to that post COVID? How do you tell me I must
00:20:51
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attend somewhere in person. It's like just put the laptop in the corner and I'll hear what y'all talking about. You know, I don't need to... Have me around on a phone and I'll be on FaceTime. Yeah, it's like I'll send a robot at this point. Where's the humanoids? It's hard because you want to see your people that you love because they energize you, but you don't want to be in places that deplete you and
00:21:19
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you know, and I'm thinking about you, like, so when I started yoga, my brain wouldn't shut off. And I was sitting there the whole time like we need milk, cheese, eggs, butter.
00:21:30
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And I have a whole grocery list, a whole laundry list. And then it got to a point where I finally achieved calm and quiet. And it took about nine months post-pandemic for me to get my brain to shut up. But it's possible. It's possible to let that worry go. And not having to get dressed in the morning helps with that. It really, really does.
00:21:57
Speaker
Yeah. And so, and then also you guys are back in lockdown again. Oh, yes. So how are you keeping, how are you keeping yourself entertained and not feeling trapped right now? I am so bad at this. I am so bad at this. I doom scroll a lot. So I snack and I nap and I doom
00:22:22
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I'm breaking that down. I snack. And I nap. And I doom scroll. And I doom scroll. I love it. But I also, I, yeah, this first week I've given myself, I just try and give myself a break because I know that what happens for me in those first few days is I get really tired and I think it's that fight to flight freeze response. And I just want to sleep. And I think that's, you know, that trauma response. And so
00:22:51
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I feel like actually I've also been really lucky that I work online and I work with a lot of people in the States and so my work has continued and that's been great because it's kept me kind of stabilized and you know I have something to focus on. Every evening when it's a
00:23:09
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bit darker and there are less people around. My partner and I take the dogs out for a sniff and a walk and that sort of thing. And so just those little things just that mark the day is really how I get through here. You're fascinating. Like, first of all, you need to copyright snap, snap, snap.
00:23:32
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Snack, nap and doom scroll and put that on a t-shirt and sell that as a merch on your website. Okay. I will buy a t-shirt. I was going to, I was going to like, that's your show graphic. Like, what do you do on that? So yeah, but I'm a napper. I love there's like peace and solitude and a good nap and you wake up.
00:23:51
Speaker
feeling amazing. So I'm glad to know I'm not the only person that has the same habits. I literally just cut some cheese in pairs and I'm going to put my laptop on my lap and listen to some music and sit in a corner just to
00:24:05
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digest the day. It's so funny. We're definitely Oh, sorry. No. I was thinking about what you're saying for about yoga and I find yoga really hard and a few months before I was diagnosed with cancer, I was back in a job in journalism and it had destroyed me. I was so
00:24:29
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run down and burnt out from this job. And I went on holiday up north from where I live here, a beautiful area called Mungafai. And I stayed in this place where the couple had basically bought this piece of land and moved. If you can imagine, it's like a seaside town, a little bit out from the city, just peaceful, beautiful place. And he taught yoga and she did natural therapies.
00:24:57
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And I've always thought to myself, because I've always wanted to do something where I create this space for myself to recover and, I guess, live a better life. And I thought, I kept thinking, what on earth can I do? I can't be a fucking yoga teacher.
Challenging Grind Culture
00:25:15
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I can't move the country and build a unit and live this old unit in life.
00:25:25
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what on earth can I do that isn't the you know corporate grind nine to five but I can still make an income and still you know and but it actually that my life isn't revolved around grind culture and grinding so that it just sort of made me think of that the yoga
00:25:47
Speaker
Oh my God, you said grind culture. And that just makes me itchy because I feel as though I didn't accomplish what I could have accomplished during the pandemic because I was watching so many people with these ostentatious showings of success. And it's like I had to really sit down and process. It has nothing to do with me or that person. We just process things differently. So I know that
00:26:18
Speaker
My gift is not to go outside and hustle the way that someone else would. And we both need to exist, right? We need both types of people and personalities for the world to go around. But the grind culture became so prevalent at the beginning of the at the beginning of the pandemic. It's like, oh, well, you know, you're stuck in the house. You got to make an extra income. It's like my day job is sucking the life out of me. I want to cry every day. And you're like, make another job.
00:26:47
Speaker
But to find the opportunity to just be and to take a chance on yourself, I think is amazing. It's a really important thing for people to consider. You're phenomenal. Because I thought about this a lot when I had cancer because I had a long time of treatment. So all up my treatment was 18 months and about four to six months of that was chemotherapy where I was grounded. I mean, my chemo was heavy duty and
00:27:16
Speaker
That's when I started thinking, yeah, this nine to five corporate gig is not good for anyone. And what I've really discovered through reading and those sorts of things is the world is not set up for us to succeed as people who aren't constantly producing and that aren't constantly making money and that sort of thing.
00:27:42
Speaker
And so it has been really interesting with the pandemic and lockdown because while we're in lockdown, people talk a lot about, oh man, I realized that I, you know, how tired I was and all those sorts of things. But as soon as we're let back out, it's like people forget.
00:27:59
Speaker
And I just wonder how do we actually incorporate some of this stuff back into our days? Because I think that the way we live really isn't sustainable for wellness, whether that's your mental health, your spiritual health, your physical health, you know, it's just not. And actually the stress of the pandemic, I don't know what it's like in the States, but I feel like people don't acknowledge it, that this is huge, man.
00:28:27
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Like if you don't want to be productive during lockdown, that's fine because what you're going through is huge.
00:28:35
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And I also don't think we're thinking about what it's going to mean for future generations. We have a whole generation of kids who have been schooled through a computer now or a year, going over a year now. So it's going to be really interesting to see the effects, the after effects of how we do this. Like for example, people keep inviting me to things and I don't have any excuses not to go other than pandemic. So I have to actually own my feelings and go, you know what?
00:29:05
Speaker
I really not up to it. I can't say we're locked down. I can't say I have to work. I can't say I'm going on travel. There's none of that right now. It's just me in the house with my baby Yoda and we're chilling and doing our thing. So it's really just owning your discomfort and saying, hey, I'm okay with you liking to do that thing.
00:29:28
Speaker
I'm not. And it's, you know, in the States, to be honest with you right now, we're in the state of vaccinated versus vaccinated. And it's like a war of two worlds. And this is actually like the worst group project ever. So the worst group project, people aren't doing their part. People don't care about that doing their part.
00:29:48
Speaker
And yes, it's a trial drug. No one knows what it's going to, whatever. Let's be safe. Let's keep our elders safe. Let's keep our children safe. There's so many kids that don't have a medical option right now. So I think watching your country on the news and watching how, you know, you're like with such certainty, this is what's happening. We've had two cases. We're locking back down.
00:30:13
Speaker
Whereas where I am in my state, it's like, well, I'm sorry, in my county, there's like 98 cases a day and hospital beds are filling up and right. You hear 98. You're like, good Lord. That's a lot of damn people. And over there, it's like, Oh, one person looks a little sick. Yeah. Got to shut it down. And it's just a complete, completely different culture. And I am kind of disappointed that my personal wellbeing doesn't mean anything to our
00:30:43
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you know, our government. So they want you to be okay. So you can go back to work so we can reopen everything. And the earth is like, no, we ain't opening nothing. We're going to go ahead and lay down to take a little time. We did not learn the lesson that the universe wanted us to learn the first time we're shutting down the studio. We're going to start over again. Yeah.
00:31:08
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So absolutely. And it's I mean, it's interesting in New Zealand because we have had that because we're all being vaccinated now. I'm full. I'm fully vaccinated. I jumped at the chance to get mine. I think they pumped me through full of poison.
Navigating Societal Pressures
00:31:24
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Basically, when I had chemo, my hair fell out. I was, you know, so I think whatever is in that vaccine cannot be as bad.
00:31:38
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I'm gonna be just fine. No, but I just, I know everyone has different beliefs and this isn't to shame or shun anyone who feels differently. However, you know, there's a lot going on and I'm in the process. I have an entire, I'm kind of crossing my fingers. Maybe we'll get a little mini shutdown. I have books I haven't read.
00:31:58
Speaker
You know I'm sitting like and I for my job like my work been so busy My day job has been so busy, but it's like you know what if this happens again I'm gonna take one day every two weeks to do nothing and I took off a couple of days to do nothing I felt guilty the first day like you're wasting leave you could have held on to this until you know kids may need a doctor's appointment and then it turned into enjoy and relax and when we get to a place where I
00:32:25
Speaker
You can have your soul just feel at ease. Regardless what your finances are, what your job situation are, we can find some kind of peace and it's our responsibility to find it. But when you have this murmur in the back of your mind about economy and closings and number of cases, you've got a distraction that's keeping you away from saying, oh, I'm unhappy. I need to heal.
00:32:52
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not having not being able to go to karaoke i miss it greatly but at the same time i can sit in the house and do some self-work yeah so now i'm excited now what's your hobby so when before times before we shut down what we should do i really enjoy i've got an e-bike because Auckland's quite hilly and so that was something that i really enjoyed doing although i could still do it now um so i enjoy that sort of stuff like i'm
00:33:20
Speaker
Yeah my hobbies are quite simple to be honest like I really enjoy going out and just enjoying a really nice coffee in a cafe. I just really like it because I'm also really nosy so I can watch people.
00:33:37
Speaker
That is the best place to get ideas for stories or to craft a character if you're writing. I used to ride the Metro back and forth to work our little local train system. And I would sit there with a pen and paper and just write out conversations that I overheard. And I would get home with this nonsensical notebook of just random things about how someone looks. But the description's like,
00:34:03
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I'm happy I kept that notebook of descriptions because I haven't had that opportunity to sit and eavesdrop and watch people angry or watch a woman throw her wedding band at her husband. You never know what you're going to see at the coffee shop. I kind of miss that part. It's interesting you say that. Yeah, I do miss that. I do really miss that. To be honest, our dogs, they are so lucky.
00:34:31
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they just have this life where they have these two humans that just dote on them. So we walk, go out and walk them along and take them out and just be together and stuff. And yeah, it's funny, hobbies. I think, I feel like life has been so upended for a while for me that it's hard sometimes to think
00:34:51
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Oh, what are my hobbies? What do I enjoy doing? We're going to talk about that next time. Because we're ain't done.
Building a Support Community
00:35:01
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We're not done. But Helen, I want to thank you so much for spending time today to chat with me about your podcasts and your business and your life post-chemo. I'm so just blessed to have you with me today. Can you tell my listener friends where they can find you?
00:35:21
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Yeah, so my podcast stuff I do at HK Productions underscore podcast on Instagram and also on Facebook and if you're someone that's being impacted by cancer because that's part of your journey or you have a family member, come and join the SeaWorld Radio community. We love supporting each other and what we're going through
00:35:45
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And you can find me on Instagram at the seaward underscore radio and the seaward radio on Facebook. I would love to hear from people.
00:35:55
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Okay, so guys, that's a call to action for you. If you have someone that you love or you've experienced yourself, cancer, and you want to connect with the network, please hit up Ms. Helen. And I thank you for your time today. And I thank everyone for tuning in and listening. Please like, subscribe, and share this episode if you did enjoy it. And I will talk to you guys soon. Have a good day.