Become a Creator today!Start creating today - Share your story with the world!
Start for free
00:00:00
00:00:01
Ep. 2 - The Great Poppers Debate
48 Plays1 year ago
This week on Oops!! We’re Talking Again... we’re back, barely holding it together—but the content? Still top-tier.
We lightly touch on Lady Gaga’s Coachella Week 2 appearance, and spoiler alert: she’s still mother.
Next, we had to touch down (ironically) on Katy Perry’s decision to leave Earth, and how the whole thing feels like the fever dream of someone who’s spent too much time in a sensory deprivation tank. Space tourism? In this economy? We dig into the flop energy and how it perfectly illustrates out-of-touch celebrity detachment.
Then comes the main event: The Great Poppers Debate. Are poppers still in? Jason says no (blame the straights), Oscar says yes (the gays will never surrender). Tensions rise!
We also spiral about dynamic ticket pricing and how it’s ruining live music for everyone who doesn’t have a trust fund, plus we discuss whether ChatGPT is our helpful assistant or our AI overlord.
Finally, we wrap up with a check-in on our very human lives—Jason’s working too much, Oscar’s got a UTI, and somehow we’re still showing up for the pod. Icons only.
-
Follow the pod on Instagram:
and while you’re there, follow us!
Cry-laugh with us at:
Oops!! We’re Talking Again… is available on all major platforms. New episodes every Wednesday.
#oopspod
Recommended
Transcript
Introduction and Friendship Origins
00:00:04
Speaker
Hey, it's Oscar from Minneapolis where the winters are cold. And I'm Jason in Seattle where the coffee is bold. We've been besties forever since way back when.
00:00:15
Speaker
We even have the same birthday. Fate had a plan back then. Now miles apart, but the gossip's still hot. Pop culture, hot takes. Best believe we got a lot.
00:00:26
Speaker
So get comfy, grab a drink, and turn up the sound. Oops, we're talking again. So it's time to stick around.
Easter Festivities
00:00:37
Speaker
Hi, Bestie. Hi, Bestie. How are you? i'm good. It's been a week. I know, right? it has been. But I will say, um Happy Easter.
00:00:50
Speaker
Happy Easter to you, too. My favorite little bunny. i see you have ah bunny ears on. Don't they look like bunny ears? They're so cute.
00:01:00
Speaker
There are actually cat ears from this local cat cafe in Seattle. I went there with our one of our good friends and we got matching cat ears and I thought it would be perfect for today because they're pink.
00:01:16
Speaker
It's very you. And I remember one time, we never went, but one time I visited you and we I think we were waiting for like our dinner reservation or something, and there was a cat cafe on the corner, and we were peeking in the windows and like looking at all the cats.
Cat Cafes and Ethics
00:01:33
Speaker
Okay, so I always feel like there should be laws for that, because like child labor law is a thing. like They're putting these cats to work, right? It's exploitative. Because what do they do? They sell like coffee and stuff, right, in those cafes?
00:01:48
Speaker
Yeah, coffee, drinks, and they let people pet the cat. Like, cats, you should use it nice. like Those cats need to get their bag somehow. Yeah.
00:02:00
Speaker
Well, getting back to Easter, did you do anything festive today? If you can call it festive, um one of our friends have a birthday party last night that lasts at least until the early morning today when Jesus was risen. The theme was Lady in Red.
00:02:24
Speaker
there was a theme? Yes. didn't know that. I knew you were going to a party, but... Uh-huh. And, you know, when gay people get together and having a theme and or on ah mission, some mayhem is going to happen.
00:02:39
Speaker
And we listened to Mayhem all night. And then we went to the bar and the bar played Mayhem all night. Wait, you went to the bar after the party? Because I know those parties last forever.
00:02:50
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, wait, no, there's also the after party. I forgot about that.
Easter Aftermath and Brunch
00:02:55
Speaker
Let's not talk about the after party on the podcast. That never happens. Okay. We'll skip that part of the story.
00:03:03
Speaker
The listeners do need do not need to know. But anyways, ah we had fun, and I'm just taking today to rest. and A day of rest. But not for you. Not for me, clearly.
00:03:16
Speaker
But you look festive, so tell me about Easter. Thank you. I'm wearing like kind of a pastel-y dress shirt. I went to like a little gay brunch. I'm actually not wearing pants right now.
00:03:28
Speaker
It's very like, ah so no I feel like I'm on like a Zoom call 2020. But anyway, we don't need to go there. but But no, I went to brunch with some friends late morning. i was in charge of making the reservations in which I waited way too late.
00:03:45
Speaker
I swear every restaurant within a hundred mile radius had no openings. However, there was one restaurant that seafood restaurant of all places down the street from me that had an opening. So I met three other friends. We had a great time, but they did have bottomless mimosas. So i immediately, when I got home, and took like a three-hour nap.
00:04:10
Speaker
I needed
00:04:13
Speaker
That sounds about right. That sounds like a good Easter for you. And the last time I've done bottomless mimosas has been a really long time, but this is what I'll say. and while I'll probably go back to this specific restaurant, not only are they located super close to where I live,
00:04:29
Speaker
Their mimosas, their champagne, I'm sure it was Prosecco, to orange juice ratio was perfection. was gay perfection because it was like a hint, a whisper of orange juice, and then all bubbles. It was perfect. I loved it. So that's probably why I had so many.
00:04:52
Speaker
So it was literally like a full glass and then they just use a little mister that you use in the hairdresser. But did i the Easter money just come over and dust on top of it.
00:05:03
Speaker
I didn't know that this specific restaurant and they're known more for dinner. i didn't know that they, it might only be for holidays. I'll have to look into this.
00:05:13
Speaker
But now that I know this information, it's like, I might be frequenting this establishment more often. That's what I've learned today. What's the name of the place?
Drinks, Tariffs, and Errors
00:05:23
Speaker
um It's called Smack Shack. They have a couple of locations here in the Midwest. I think, well, you've been when you were coming here.
00:05:33
Speaker
So you know what I was drinking at brunch, but um we're recording a little bit later than usual. Are you drinking anything tonight? All right, before that, I'm going to take a hit of this.
00:05:46
Speaker
Jason's on his vape if he can't see it.
00:05:49
Speaker
cha This annoys Oscar so much. But anyways, i am drinking. I'm on a journey of drinking imported beers because of the tariffs. ah We might not be able to drink them anymore for a cheap price.
00:06:03
Speaker
So this one is called Singha. It's a beer brand from Thailand. And I've been doing beer from Thailand, from Vietnam, from China, you know, all places that we might not be able to buy from anymore.
00:06:15
Speaker
What's actually surprising is I've had that beer a couple of times. I'm recognizing the label And it's always been on the West Coast that I've had it, but I have definitely had that beer before, and I remember it being really good.
00:06:26
Speaker
Yeah, it's awesome. You know, we're so masked. We're drinking beer today. You're drinking beer today. I'm definitely not. Oh, I'm drinking. Here. look Look at what I'm drinking.
00:06:37
Speaker
Espresso martini. It is an espresso martini. Our favorite drink. On topic, that brings us to Correction Corner. Yeah, we have a little bit of a corrections corner this week from our first podcast that came out last week.
00:06:55
Speaker
I feel like this is going to be a regular occurrence because we're not good with facts. I feel like corrections corners are things you definitely want to try to avoid, especially when you are on a podcast.
00:07:07
Speaker
But there are a few notes that I've written down on this. From first time, well, everybody's been a first time listener, but before we get into Corrections Corner, I guess I will note ah note that we have had such a sweet week.
00:07:23
Speaker
There's been very good response to the pod. We've had some incredible people. give us their feedback and opinions. And it's all been extremely, extremely positive. So I want to say thank you to everybody that took the time to out of their day to listen to this.
00:07:40
Speaker
And i think we both thank you. So yeah I just wanted to just say that. Thank you. There's just a couple of things I want to clarify. ah so the first one relating to, I guess, what I'm drinking is it was regarding the streaming stats of the song Espresso by Sabrina Carpenter.
00:07:57
Speaker
And last week I incorrectly stated that I was in the top 005% listeners. 0.001%. but in fact i was in the top zero point zero zero one percent And that might be a reason why I need to be 51-15, but that's a topic for a different conversation.
00:08:19
Speaker
I just like the song. I love it. and A little obsessed, if you will. The other quick corrections corner, because we'll make this segment super fast, is I incorrectly gave our Instagram handle.
00:08:33
Speaker
um it is... Oops Pod Official is where you can find us on Instagram. So I said the wrong thing last week. I don't really remember what I said, but I know it was wrong.
00:08:44
Speaker
And then the main one is that Jason is not from Seattle. So he it's not that Jason's from Seattle and moved back and is back in Seattle.
00:08:57
Speaker
Jason's from Vietnam, moved to the Midwest, college years. That's when we met in Minneapolis. So I wanted to make that clear.
Coachella and Spaceflight Critique
00:09:04
Speaker
There was a little bit of confusion from more than one listener about that.
00:09:09
Speaker
the whole premise of this podcast is that we've known each other for so long and he's moved to Seattle. So he's not from there. So I just wanted to make that, that clear to everybody. And that's it for corrections this week.
00:09:23
Speaker
Yeah, and if anybody who's listening and not catching that I'm ESL, you should know by now. I grew in Vietnam, so I'm struggling really hard to ah be both smart and coherent and funny at the same time.
00:09:41
Speaker
Well, you are all of those things, and I am oh attest to that. so This is the first nice things Oscar ever say about me. I know, and don't get to days. Oh, in So I'm going to quickly piggyback off of what we discussed last week. We'll make it quick, we promise.
00:09:58
Speaker
But we do want to touch on week two of Coachella. Not because it's Coachella, but because Mother, again, got to headline week two. And i got... but I'm not a a bad gay this week. Last week I said I was a bad gay.
00:10:14
Speaker
This week I, with my partner, we sat down and watched the entire set. And i am... Beyond blown away. So everybody thats got to everybody that got to witness this week one that I was kind of like out of the loop for just because of like life or whatever, i understand why things were going viral and it was being talked about.
00:10:39
Speaker
And to be able to watch the full performance from start to finish was So incredible. Another reason why i have always been such a big fan of her. I think it was incredible. So I just wanted to touch base on that.
00:10:55
Speaker
Jason, did you have any opinions? Yeah, I didn't have a chance to watch live last week, but I caught up to some clips. But this time ah had a chance and we were watching with friends who went to Coachella week one and Oscar.
00:11:11
Speaker
They told me that They were so glad to pay more money to watch it in week one because of the mic functioning. Oh my gosh. That's right. That went viral overnight. that She had a mic malfunction, which if you watch the footage, she handled beautifully. Professional.
00:11:32
Speaker
And they got her a ah hand mic for a couple seconds. Actually, I take that back a couple of minutes. And then the dancers, they... were so smart. I mean, she's always worked with a talented crew, but there were parts of her performance where she gets lifted up and they were so intuitive to not do that because she had to have her hand on the microphone. So everything was still perfect.
00:11:58
Speaker
They got her mic working relatively quickly in, this is a large scale production. So I was actually impressed on how quick they were able to fix the issue.
00:12:09
Speaker
Jason, my favorite moments were Garden of Eden. i loved the dance break of that. That was unreal. Like I wanted to, actually I did rewind that to my partner's dismay, probably a couple times.
00:12:24
Speaker
I'm a big fan of The Beast. Love that song. Love that she did that from the new record. And then finally my favorite, which she did so well, was Shadow of a Man.
00:12:38
Speaker
What were your thoughts? I love it. I love that she handled everything so professionally. And um there was some part of the choreo when the mic got cut off that she had to change on the fly.
00:12:53
Speaker
And she was a professional. She did it so well. So our girl, 10 out of 10. I know that we talked about Coachella last week, but I could not come on this pod this week and not talk about how Mother Slayed again. So um we'll leave it there.
00:13:10
Speaker
Moving on to another notable pop culture moment last week was the Blue Origin all-female spaceflight. Oh my God. All 11 minutes of it.
00:13:22
Speaker
So inspiring. Woman in Stam. i can't. I would say that the memes that came out of that was worth it for me.
00:13:34
Speaker
I don't know if the memes that came out of that were worth the millions and millions and millions of dollars, but you can have your opinion. It's okay. We can differ on this. No, I... Well, there are so many different opinions on this, but we all agree that Katy Perry...
00:13:52
Speaker
has no business being in space. She has no business being all extra and they should have just lost her in space. I'm not a Katy Perry hater, okay? I loved her music. I'm still a fan, but she just need a good team to keep her from being her worst self.
00:14:12
Speaker
She is her worst self. she's her She's been her worst self for years. The only good thing that's happened to her recently is her Vegas residency, and that's not because of her. It's because of the production value.
00:14:23
Speaker
And if you've been to this show, you know why. None of this makes sense to me. There's a lot of things going on in the world. And once again, we're a lighthearted podcast, so we're we're not going to get into any of that. But this makes zero sense. And then you're up there with a daisy trying to give your set list for your upcoming tour, which I've heard.
00:14:42
Speaker
um isn't selling very many tickets, but that's a different conversation as well. But no, I just, I think it's insane. I think it's crazy. And, and I cringe. i think cringe And I don't, I don't understand.
00:14:58
Speaker
i don't understand it. You have Gayle King going on saying how, oh, they have plans to throw trash up into space. Like that's going to help anything. Like we, the last thing we need is like that in our universe. So I, I just, I'm a little opinionated or maybe a lot opinionated out of touch, rich women.
00:15:18
Speaker
The whole thing to me is just too much. I agree. I think the intention was good, but for it to market as a feminist milestone where you can you could have featured so many other real...
00:15:34
Speaker
Women in STEM, not Katy Perry. And make it such a public spectacle just because you're friends with, you know, a billionaire's fiance. Like, I i love the intention. i don't think the execut execution was good.
00:15:50
Speaker
Let's put it that way. And don't love the intention or the execution. So maybe Jason... Maybe... Maybe Jason I differ slightly on this. I think it was a bunch of garbage. Hate me if you want.
00:16:01
Speaker
I am willing to move forward and hopefully there are better things that our money can be spent on to help our country and not sending a pop star into space for 11 minutes.
00:16:14
Speaker
I agree. And I'm going to call this segment Cringe of the Week. This is the first of this night. Yeah, Katy Perry orbited into her flop era.
00:16:25
Speaker
Oh, i I wasn't aware she ever left that era, but that's just my opinion. I am going to offend a lot of people who are listening to this podcast.
00:16:37
Speaker
Poppers are out. Not because it's going to be very expensive after the Trump tariffs hit, but also it's become so popular with straight people.
00:16:51
Speaker
Like literally within the last month, I've seen women pull it out in straight bars. Like, what's up with that? Like, the moment it becomes something that straight people adopt, no longer cool, no longer the kind of thing that only gay people do, you know, I don't like it in anymore.
00:17:13
Speaker
Well, I'm going to rebuttal you because I think poppers will forever be in but my partner and I just traveled to Florida of all places.
00:17:25
Speaker
and they still had poppers in a fucking vending machine. and guess what? Fed that machine money.
00:17:35
Speaker
So poppers will remain in as The gays aren't going to stop. I will never ever criminalize a straight person for wanting to try poppers, do poppers or have poppers.
00:17:47
Speaker
For me, i I think it's fine. like Let people enjoy what they want to do. i love it. Poppers are going nowhere. we will pay whatever it takes to always have them. I don't know. I just i love poppers, and that's not going to change. Yeah.
00:18:04
Speaker
Well, i I'm just worried that straight people are going to make it more expensive because supply and demand... But i I'm convinced, you know, if a straight guy do it and start, you know, having his sexual awakening, then fine.
00:18:20
Speaker
I am with you. Well, then we'll send them your way. I think what's next is we're going talk about some of these amazing concerts and tours that are goingnna be happening this year, specifically over the summer.
Music Industry Concerns
00:18:37
Speaker
um We talked earlier about Gaga, obviously, but then we have other artists like ah Rihanna confirming that she's recording her next record. We have Kesha released and they're now on sale is her summer tour.
00:18:51
Speaker
Yes, Kesha. I love her so much. And we saw her together a long time ago when she was performing in a casino in Minnesota. It was honestly like so sad back in the day because her music was so popular for a long time. But then she kind of scaled down her concerts a little bit because she was you know battling a lot of the legal issues. Yeah, she had legal problems. Yeah. yeah But now Mama is back.
00:19:21
Speaker
Mother is on her way back and I'm excited. So despite all of that, because obviously we love Kesha, what about her is out for you? Oh, nothing about her is out. But to be honest with you, the ticket prices is out for me, not just for Kesha, but everybody else.
00:19:39
Speaker
Outrageous money these days for those tickets. I couldn't agree more. And I understand that a big percentage and portion of that money is not going to the artists.
00:19:50
Speaker
So I think it's interesting that these companies have a monopoly over ah ah the artists and over the fans and are taking ah cut away from and taking advantage of us fans that really want to see the artists that we love perform.
00:20:07
Speaker
I agree. like Buying tickets don't need to feel like you're entering into a lottery. a bloodbath. Oh my gosh. the Seriously. We've already been through that. It was Taylor Swift all over again. We talked about that last week. and it's like This continues to happen with other artists. It's not just the big ones.
00:20:27
Speaker
It happens to smaller smaller artists. like I tried to get tickets to like Gracie Abrams this year and to see a couple other people. Thankfully, She's a little bit bigger, but even Tate McRae, she sold out her world tour.
00:20:41
Speaker
Thankfully, we got tickets, but it's really hard and very, very expensive. And a lot of people, and you know we're in our 30s, but a lot of people younger than us that are really into music, they can't afford these high ticket prices. Yeah.
00:20:56
Speaker
Absolutely. I think we got into what we do in our jobs earlier in the last episode, but I work in tech, you work in marketing.
00:21:08
Speaker
So we know a little bit about this topic, dynamic pricing marketing. you know, selling tickets by an algorithm, I think is really evil, especially when you're talking about experience for the next generation. The price go up while you're checking out.
00:21:24
Speaker
That's not a concert. That's a robbery. So I really, really hope that, you know, people who listen to this podcast will take the same message with us and popularizing it. And maybe even we can start a conversation about changing the practices that companies are doing.
00:21:40
Speaker
And I think there is also legislation and some government entities trying to crack down on this as well. And we can only hope that that will only benefit concert goers and the consumers ultimately. Yeah.
00:21:54
Speaker
However, we will still go see mother when mother is a playing. but I will take out a loan. Sell my kidney.
00:22:05
Speaker
Sell my liver. Wait, I need my liver, I think. Yeah. Well, your liver is not worth that much, bitch. Don't use any more poppers. Public service announcement.
ChatGPT in Creativity
00:22:20
Speaker
My name is Rush and I endorse this message.
00:22:26
Speaker
Well, another thing that's infamy chat it chat gvt I use it lot. um I use it to organize my life.
00:22:38
Speaker
I use it to organize my work, my train of thought. i um you know, like you have to use it responsibly. And of course, like if you're working professionally, you have to make sure you protect your company's data and whatnot. But I can't imagine a world without ChatGPT anymore. i know Oscar disagreed with me on this.
00:22:59
Speaker
I think you're fucking nuts. and i'll tell I'll tell you exactly why. I think chat GPT is a very interesting tool, but we talked first episode about how we're both creatives and I don't quite understand the appeal of having to use it for every task.
00:23:23
Speaker
I personally don't really use chat GPT because And ah times that I've felt like I should use it, I've never been fully impressed. And I know that this is a tool that is helping literally millions of people all around the globe.
00:23:40
Speaker
And I'm not knocking that. I think for me, as a creative and as somebody who owns my own agency, I really rely on my talent and the things that I can bring the to the table that every single time in the past that I've tried to use ChatGPT enhance my work, it's never come out the way that I've wanted it to.
00:24:07
Speaker
Now, here's the thing to your point, because you're saying that this is what's in for you, is I'm not saying it doesn't have the potential. It's out for me. But that could change.
00:24:19
Speaker
It might be in for me one day. But I think for right now, I'm okay without it. Yeah. I mean, you might change your mind someday. I think it will speed up processes for a lot of people and improve productivity for sure.
00:24:37
Speaker
And I think to your point too, I think it depends on the industry that you're in. Yeah. And even in your industry, like it helped speed up the first draft of whatever you do. Right.
00:24:48
Speaker
But it also has the potential. I know it never replaced the human. I get your point. It's great for like exploring like different way, different tone. Like you already have a draft. You wanted to change it slightly differently.
00:25:02
Speaker
But at the end of the day, it's just like Photoshop. for me it's like it's just a tool for you to get your creativity out and put something to the world like even this podcast I have been using chat GPT oh my gosh of course Jason I think I think if chat I think if chat GPT had an Instagram page and a following Jason would to be number one on that list I would be the top fan Anyways, Oscar, before we wrap up the podcast for this week, I would love for you to update our listeners on what's going on with your life.
Personal Updates and Reflections
00:25:43
Speaker
I know ah best friend, we talk about it a lot. Anything that you're willing to share? I have had a very interesting week since we last recorded. for our listeners, today for us is Easter. You guys won't be hearing this until midweek on Wednesday, but it is Easter Sunday. i had a very fun day with friends, and I wouldn't take that back from the world just because i kind of had a rough week last week. It was just a little bit tough.
00:26:12
Speaker
I don't know if I should release this and on the pod on episode two, but I knew it was really hard for men to get UTIs, but I have one right now. And so it's just been really, really challenging and not the most fun, but I'm getting through it.
00:26:28
Speaker
And then i do get to leave this week on ah my vacation to Chicago. short vacation to Chicago for my anniversary, which I cannot wait for. So despite a challenging week, a busy week, and just everything going on in my life, I am really looking forward to getting through this next week, getting on vacation, and just enjoying it.
00:26:53
Speaker
So that's that's what's new with me. I'm glad you're open and vulnerable about everything that happened with you for this week. I mean, I've also had a very interesting and long week as well.
00:27:06
Speaker
No UTI for me, but a lot of AI, a lot of interesting ah thing that happened at work in my personal life. Seattle has been amazing for us. We're meeting new friends.
00:27:20
Speaker
I am being super delusional about manifesting a really amazing summer in Seattle. I know that the world might not agree with me, but I'm going to have a good summer anyway.
00:27:34
Speaker
And just vibing, surviving. Well, we love to hear that. Yeah.
Closing and Listener Engagement
00:27:41
Speaker
Well, once again, we want to thank everybody who tuned in to this week's episode. There's many more to come.
00:27:48
Speaker
Jason, where can people find you? I am on Instagram at Jason Whenever. And what about you? i am also on Instagram.
00:27:59
Speaker
I'm okar101. So just take the S out of my name, O-C-A-R-1-0-1. Rate us, review us, tell your ex about us.
00:28:09
Speaker
Bonus point of view. Text someone you shouldn't while listening. We'd love to hear from you. Well, make sure to send that ex our way.
00:28:20
Speaker
We'll make sure he becomes a listener. Just blame the podcast. Catch you next week. Same chows. Different episode. Bye, bestie.
00:28:32
Speaker
Bye, bestie. Love you. Love you.
00:28:42
Speaker
Thank you for listening to Oops, We're Talking Again. Production and editing by me, Oscar Stutchin. Original cover artwork concept by Jason Wynn.
00:28:53
Speaker
Music by U9809. Our website is oopspod.com. O-O-P-S-P-O-D dot C-O-M. If you have questions, comments, or any thoughts to share, email us at oopspodcasting at gmail dot com.
00:29:12
Speaker
Our podcast is available on all major platforms. If you enjoyed today's episode, please rate, review, and subscribe. It's the best way to spill the tea.
00:29:23
Speaker
Until next time, bye Jason.