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Ep. 8 - Labubu's? La-BYE-BYE!
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We kick things off with a weekly catch-up before diving into the latest Real Housewives shake-up: Rachel Zoe is joining RHOBH and we have thoughts. Then it’s on to Sabrina Carpenter and her recent controversies—are we sipping tea or spilling espresso?
In our “What’s In and What’s Out” segment, Oscar officially declares war on Labubu’s (he’s not sorry.) For "Cringe of the Week" we unpack the ongoing trend of pop girlies flirtin’ with the queer community —queerbaiting is out, babes.
We wrap with excitement about next month’s in-person recording in Scottsdale for the Kesha concert, because nothing says “friendship” like a desert dance party and shared mic.
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Transcript
00:00:04
Speaker
Hey, it's Oscar from Minneapolis where the winters are cold. And I'm Jason in Seattle where the coffee is bold. We've been besties forever since way back when.
00:00:15
Speaker
We even have the same birthday. Fate had a plan back then. Now miles apart, but the gossip's still hot. Pop culture, hot takes. Best believe we got a lot.
00:00:26
Speaker
So get comfy, grab a drink, and turn up the sound. Oops, we're talking again. So it's time to stick around.
00:00:36
Speaker
Hello, Bestie. Hi, Bestie. How are you I'm good. How are you? I've never been better. but Really? I'm not.
00:00:50
Speaker
Happy Daddy's Day. to all the fathers and the dads out there that give life to us, we thank you for your service. Thank Get that off the top. good um Question though for you. So, you know, Father's Day is kind of a thing here in the States is do you guys have like a parents day or Father's Day that's celebrated in Vietnam?
00:01:10
Speaker
No, no. It's kind of like a United States thing. It is actually kind of a marketing thing. we can dedicate a whole episode talking about this. But yeah, it's like a Hallmark holiday. It is. It's actually a Hallmark holiday and designed to sell us shit.
00:01:26
Speaker
And but in Vietnam, there is, ah you know, Women's Day, which is de facto Mother's Day, because you're supposed to give your mom a bouquet flowers on that day.
00:01:39
Speaker
But there's no Father's Day. Oh, hmm. Yeah. So all the Vietnamese daddies out there, thank you for your service.
00:01:48
Speaker
and love that. We all know that last weekend you went to a DC World Pride. Can you give us a little synopsis of what your weekend was like? You can give us like an edited down, censored version of the events that unfolded.
00:02:03
Speaker
It's so amazing. I could not enjoy a music festival more despite everything that's going on in DC. We didn't get 100,000 attendees like originally World Pride projected.
00:02:17
Speaker
We got maybe 40,000. But because of that, the sweltering weather was a little bit better. i did a couple of concerts that I could highlight, like Kim Petras and Paris Hilton, who performed from a chair.
00:02:33
Speaker
Girl, give us nothing. it was really fun. And then of course, you know, all the friends that we run into, ah mutual friends, and then everybody there was just having a good time, spite of everything, which is yeah what's great about it.
00:02:48
Speaker
And correct me if I'm wrong, but did you say that you didn't go see Jennifer Lopez? Oh my God. People on Instagram are going to say that I'm like lying.
00:03:00
Speaker
But I did not go see Jennifer Lopez because I picked a different concert at the same time and was sad to hear that it was actually a good set.
00:03:12
Speaker
And she shaked her booty thing, Jenny from Blackpink. which was wild. Yeah. Oh my gosh. But I still enjoyed it because one of the friends have most of the highlights on his phone and i get to watch it, you know, secondhand, but you know, you never know.
00:03:32
Speaker
Well, yeah, it looked like you had a really nice trip. Yeah. Speaking of that, you know, we're going to get to spend some time together really soon. Yes, we decided catch Kesha on her tour. She's currently touring the States, but she's not coming to Minneapolis or Seattle. So we picked to see her in Scottsdale, Arizona, and that is in...
00:03:56
Speaker
Less than a month. So this was a completely unplanned trip. Flights book, the tickets bought. And so I get to see my bestie so soon. i cannot wait. I haven't seen you since early spring.
00:04:08
Speaker
so long overdue and I can't wait. you know, gay icon Kesha. Yes. And also spending some time with my best friend 4th of July, just unexpected treat.
00:04:21
Speaker
But people are going to say, why are they traveling all the time? like what Where do they get the time? you know, but we have not traveled to see each other in a while. So this is completely appropriate travel time and we're going to have the best time.
00:04:39
Speaker
The little bit of irony is the last time I saw you was in Scottsdale at the same exact resort that we're staying at. So it's so going to be kind of a in a way, a repeat trip, but I'm going to take it over the world. So we're going to make this trip really special.
00:04:58
Speaker
Absolutely. i feel like last time when we left Phoenix, we wanted more because it was so short and had such a good time. Yeah. A lot of cigarettes and cigars and, you know sunshine and Speedos.
00:05:14
Speaker
I'll clarify, we're not smokers when we're on vacation. And I don't vape, but everybody around me does. Whatever you deet your cigarettes fiend when there's one around.
00:05:29
Speaker
We're going to definitely whoop it up and it'll be another trip to remember. Yeah. Cannot wait. Well, before we get into our topics of the week, I just wanted to quickly note And anytime I bring something up, I always say that we're not a political podcast, but I would not be doing my community here, Minneapolis, any justice by jumping into funny pop culture moments without recognizing the assassination that happened here. i believe it was on Friday.
00:06:01
Speaker
And the manhunt's still underway for they have a suspect. and They're still trying to locate him. But I think I speak for both of us that we just don't stand for any form of political violence, no matter what your views and opinions are.
00:06:17
Speaker
But this was a pure act of tragedy. And I just wanted to say that up here near the top before we get into all things fun and just deeply affecting the community. So I just wanted to mention that.
00:06:32
Speaker
Yeah. And I mean, you live in Minnesota, so it's very close to you. Yeah. We'll always be keeping things lighthearted, but know that our heart is with the community and we care even if we just joke around about dicks and poppers. We're complex human beings with a lot of interests in the world and you're here for the fun. So yeah, let's get to it.
00:06:57
Speaker
Yeah. So are you drinking anything today? I'm going to be very strange today to you. Okay. I'm not. doing any alcohol yet.
00:07:11
Speaker
Today or like for the foreseeable future? For the foreseeable future. I'm done. Yeah. Are you coming off of a bender or what made you choose this decision?
00:07:23
Speaker
I'm maybe going California sober or some other farm. Okay. I respect that. I actually do have coffee with me. I'm just joking. I think this is your third podcast in a row drinking coffee.
00:07:35
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, it's Sunday afternoon, so it's, you know, a good time for coffee. What about you? What are you drinking? I'm having some cava, so kind of some Spanish champagne. having a glass of that right now.
00:07:47
Speaker
I'm going to hang out with my man this afternoon. We're going to some grilling, but I thought I'd get started with some bubbles while we record today. Yeah. Cava, I barely even know ya.
00:07:59
Speaker
Next to champagne, Cava is think, my favorite sparkling wine. like There's some sparkling rosés that I really like, but Cava is more earthy, kind of grassy.
00:08:10
Speaker
I mean that in the best way possible. And i guess grassy isn't the word, more minerally. i think I'm thinking of Sauvignon Blancs are kind of grassy, but I really like Spanish Cava. Yeah. That's what I'm having today.
00:08:21
Speaker
Does a grassy make you gassy? I think if you were to eat literal grass, yes. so
00:08:29
Speaker
Well, let's jump into some hot topics from the last week. Yeah. Yeah, we can start maybe with some Bravo news. It is confirmed that Rachel Zoe, Bravo OG from way back in the day, is going to be joining the cast of Real Housewives of Beverly Hills.
00:08:46
Speaker
So that's exciting. I remember watching her on her shows back in the day, and I think she'll be a very interesting addition to the cast. I'm not sure who they're booting or not renewing contracts for.
00:08:58
Speaker
Obviously, Garcelle is not coming back. She quit the show. but Rumors are swirling that Kathy will be back as friend of. Don't think they're getting rid of Kyle. Erica confirmed that she's coming back.
00:09:09
Speaker
Yes. And I'm not sure about Dorit or who am I missing? Bozeman. Bozeman. Yeah. yeah So I'm not sure if she's coming back either. I'm not sure about Bozeman quite yet.
00:09:19
Speaker
I think she is really good so far on her first season. I'm definitely going to miss Griselle. Me too. Her, you know, like, you know the way she is. She is the only one who can, like, put some people in their places.
00:09:35
Speaker
And still hold her own. And still hold her own. I'm going to miss her. But, you she's getting a little bit too, I don't know, just, like, woomy lately that I just, I'm not sure if I like it then.
00:09:46
Speaker
Well, and she has so many other projects. She's so booked and busy and she doesn't need the show. She used kind of the excuse that a lot of housewives use is that she just wants to spend time with her family and her kids are getting older. i think her twins are graduating.
00:10:03
Speaker
I think she just wants to be more present in her family's life. And i respect that. And then she is super busy acting and producing. So I think the show doesn't need her. i don't think she needs the show.
00:10:13
Speaker
And with her connection and whatever, like her kids are approaching that age that she can become a momager and start her own Kardashian brand. So yeah she doesn't need the show. Like, go go on your own, Griselle. Yeah.
00:10:27
Speaker
We support you. Absolutely. I think we're in agreement with that. Still Housewives of Beverly Hills is kind of at the top of our franchise favorites, I believe. So but we've seen filming of Salt Lake City. So they're actively filming release date to be premiere date, I should say, is not yet confirmed, but it looks like they're about to start the cameras back up for Beverly Hills.
00:10:51
Speaker
Cannot wait. You know what I'm excited about? What? I'm so excited about seeing Erica storyline like this season because of everything that's happening with Tom.
00:11:03
Speaker
ehu I know that people get tired of it back in the day, but I'm still into it because I love Erica so much. i know I just want her to have something, you know?
00:11:15
Speaker
Well, it looked like she did. She reprise her role on Broadway. think it's a different musical, not Chicago. We have to look this up. Yeah, let's look this up.
00:11:27
Speaker
See, we're all off the cuff, okay? We don't look up anything. This is all our live reaction, so the audience should know that we're authentic, real, and never prepared. Oh, so she did. So she did her limited run. She reprised her role of Roxy Hart from January 20th through February 23rd of 2025.
00:11:48
Speaker
So I did remember hearing that she was going to go back to this ah stage. So she had a limited run earlier this year. And now I guess she's going to be preparing to start filming the show again.
00:11:59
Speaker
But to your point, what you were mentioning is Tom Girardi, and he was sentenced to another fact check moment here. That man need to be in prison for a long time.
00:12:11
Speaker
Unfortunately, he doesn't have that long anymore. no he does not have much longer left on this planet, but he was sentenced to 87 months, which is seven years and three months in federal prison.
00:12:22
Speaker
Well, One of the friendship lore that I want people to know about, because every time I mention this to a new friend who loves Erika Jayne and Beverly Hills, they gag, is the rug that you give us for our apartment in Seattle two years like ago. Do you still have that out front your apartment? I do. I just told somebody about yesterday because he wore a pretty mess shirt to the housewarming party that we went to yesterday.
00:12:51
Speaker
And I gave him the whole lore and he laughed so hard at that. Yes. So their doormat that I gifted them is Erica's monologue of Tom's house.
00:13:06
Speaker
He confronted the burglar and then had to go have eye surgery. And then my son rolled his car. It's that whole entire monologue on a doormat. and I love it. And I wanted to get myself one too.
00:13:18
Speaker
It's really funny because my neighbor across the hall was like, why do you have that rug? i was like, I can't explain it to you. Yeah. If you don't understand the lore of that iconic scene in Beverly Hills, it's not even worth trying to explain that to a stranger who doesn't get it.
00:13:35
Speaker
hu Iconic. Iconic moment in Real Housewives history. All right. Did you want to get into some opinions on... Miss Sabrina Carpenter's behavior recently. Oh dear.
00:13:49
Speaker
oh dear. We have a lot to say about this. think we do. Like, girl, what are you doing out there in these streets right now? you know, we are Sabrina fans from the start. Oh, love her Yeah, we saw her on, guys came in Minneapolis, you flew last year and we all got to see her together her tour.
00:14:07
Speaker
I think, you know, we're reacting to the latest episode in the Sabrina Book of Fame, which is her album cover that got a lot of people online outrage because she put herself in a situation in the album cover that doesn't look flattering to women. And the whole theme of the album doesn't look that great.
00:14:32
Speaker
It's called Men's Best Friend. And I feel like this going to be an ongoing topic because we'll react to whatever comes next in this era. I was initially very disappointed because I thought the last album, Short and Sweet, with the whole artwork and theme of the album, I thought it was a very feminist theme without being overtly feminist.
00:14:58
Speaker
It's very wink-wink, nudge-nudge. We're owning our sexuality. And it seemed very smart, very witty, and very on point. But for this one, it turns a little bit too much to the other side of trying to cause controversy to get people to talk.
00:15:18
Speaker
And I feel like maybe our girl is getting a little bit too much further than she should have gone. What do you think? I think as a younger artist, you almost need to mature your way into pushing those boundaries. i mean, we've seen it with Madonna. We've seen it with Gaga in some regard.
00:15:36
Speaker
But I think this is just really pushing boundaries on her career. It's pushing... the boundaries on stereotypes of women. And I think it's a really slippery slope and kind of a gray area.
00:15:49
Speaker
I'm all about women empowerment. And I think there's a lot of women saying this is not a very empowering move in this direction that she's taking her career in music.
00:16:01
Speaker
We also had her on the cover of Rolling Stones and we'll put a photo of the single And then the Rolling Stones cover on the visual recaps. You guys know what we're talking about, but very provocative, obviously meant to evoke a reaction from men and women and the gays.
00:16:21
Speaker
And I feel mixed about it. yeah And you hope the music's good?
00:16:28
Speaker
I want her new album to be awesome, but it's giving girl give your career a little bit longer. Well, to be fair, in defense of her, when Britney did I'm a Slave for You, what, 22?
00:16:44
Speaker
And the stripped area of Christina was during her early 20s, too. And our girl's 26. Like, she's a grown woman, you know, tiny-sized grown woman. woman But she can own her sexuality in any way she wants. Yeah.
00:16:58
Speaker
What didn't hit for me was that it was a satire. It was a satire of women being treated by man as women. bitch as a man's best friend, right?
00:17:10
Speaker
And the whole thing is exactly like that. But satire has to be very smart. And even if it's dumb, even if it's tongue in cheek, it also has to have some rough point of view that you need to be getting right away instead of the reaction that she's getting right now.
00:17:29
Speaker
Where do you think she goes from here though? This is like all the way high public opinion to mid, where do you think she go? Well, I think once again, we need to wait for this record and see what true direction that this album goes in. Herman where she goes next?
00:17:49
Speaker
You know, she's always been pretty provocative these last few years as she's really rose to fame. I mean, she's been working her ass off since a very young age. And She finally got huge recognition and is a huge star and she deserves it. She's worked very, very hard at 26 years old to be where she now is.
00:18:11
Speaker
I think she deserved this level of fame decade ago. mean, some of my favorite songs from her are like, she was 16, 17 years old recording them. So I'm happy for her that she's gained success and just don't want her to...
00:18:29
Speaker
Sell out to these ideas that might hurt the demographic that is supporting her. Young women, basically so coming of age, young women and a lot of gay men.
00:18:40
Speaker
Yeah. And I know that there were a lot of moms not happy about even tour last year on some of the things that she was doing on stage. As gays, we love it because we're adults and we love sex and we're mature enough to understand references and we're all consenting adults at the end of the day. But I think there were a lot of underage girls at that concert and I don't think parents were very happy about some of the antics on stage.
00:19:08
Speaker
But once again, she's an adult. So you when you bring your young daughters to concerts like that, you can't expect that star to be angel. That's my point. There was a mom in front of us that took their daughter in a huff away.
00:19:25
Speaker
Did you remember that? Oh my God. It was during the Juno number, babe. And then the mom was like, I had enough of this, like it right in front of us. then And then she took the daughters away.
00:19:35
Speaker
And then i think we were like looking at each other like, what the hell? Google Sabrina Carpenter before you bring your daughter, your preteen daughter to a concert.
00:19:47
Speaker
Not to mention that that was a very expensive concert to attend. And we had general standing for that show. So it's like parents that spent hundreds and hundreds of dollars to take their kids to that show. I just, yeah, I think there were some disappointed moms in the crowd. Yeah.
00:20:03
Speaker
So Oscar, on top of my mind is still that trip that I'm planning for my parents. Yes, Jason, you are planning a trip to Paris this summer, correct?
00:20:15
Speaker
Yes. And you talked to my mom a couple of times on the phone. you yeah She doesn't understand any English. You don't understand any Vietnamese, but she gets to talk to you.
00:20:27
Speaker
Yes. The apple does not fall far from the tree. i am the way I am because of my mom. So it's not. That's who I have to blame for your antics.
00:20:38
Speaker
It's no longer just Paris. It's Paris, Barcelona, Rome, and possibly Greece. Yeah. You're going to go, go, go when you're in Europe.
00:20:49
Speaker
Yeah. And I'm just. It's giving logistical nightmare right now. can only imagine. i am very excited, of course, but traveling with them, I'm utilizing everything that I'm learning from my job with ChatGPT, trying to make sure that I map all the routes that require no effort on them. And anything on Europe is all about walking, walking, walking. So right now is a lot for me to plan, but I'm very excited.
00:21:22
Speaker
And when are you supposed to leave? On August, on the tail end of August, and I will come back the first week of September. September, that's right. Okay. So are you saying logistically it's going to be difficult to get to these places?
00:21:37
Speaker
Yeah. Like a lot of sightseeing that they want to do will require walking. Yep. But, you know, with ChatGPT, I'm able to map out exactly how much walking would that be.
00:21:51
Speaker
And it's really good. Like it's the best travel agent you'll ever get in your life. Yeah. I have a project in ChatGPT that I put all the information in there from the start. And every time I learn something new or like a new location on Google, I drop that in the folder.
00:22:08
Speaker
And now it's remembering. And then it's telling me like my thesis is that I only want two hours walking per place. And then it gives me all the suggestions and the scheduling and the place to book tickets.
00:22:22
Speaker
And it's just so good. Like yeah I cannot recommend it out. But actually, the thing that I'm worrying about the most right now is their diet. You know, the apple does not fall from the tree.
00:22:33
Speaker
My mom is picky about her food. So I'm like already mapping out Vietnamese restaurants in Paris so that I can take them. Oh, my God.
00:22:44
Speaker
Oh my God. That sounds like a challenge. Yeah. You know, I'm also like preparing for the inevitable health issues that might happen.
00:22:54
Speaker
So travel insurance is booked. I'm packing stuff like, you know, electrolytes, medicine. Just want to make sure that my parents are taken care of. And other thing that I also want to make sure that I get taken care of is putting them to bed and sneak out to Paris nightlife while they're sleeping.
00:23:15
Speaker
It sounds like Jason.
00:23:19
Speaker
I'm basically reliving my teenage life. you know
00:23:24
Speaker
Well, you'll be coming back with some stories. I hope so. More stories to tell on the pod. Exactly. I can picture some of them already.
00:23:35
Speaker
Maybe you'll do a surprise visit and you'll be like, hey, bestie, we're in Paris. What kind of woman? Give a woman a trip to Paris. Lesbians, am I right?
00:23:52
Speaker
that's one of favorite movies yeah if you listen to the pod you know it's bridesmaids and mean girls those are cult classic favorite movies yeah oscar and jason's favorites and we quote them on a daily basis sometimes to other people's dismay especially our boyfriends
00:24:15
Speaker
We are back. We just took a tiny little break and Jason already broke his sobriety.
00:24:24
Speaker
Would you like to explain to the viewers of what you were holding right now? My very short-lived sobriety ended because there is nice bottle of rosé that my boyfriend just broke out.
00:24:37
Speaker
Well, cheers. Cheers. You were something else. I love it. I'm sorry. When there's a rosé in my house, I must. Rosé all day. Well, we can head into our weekly segment of what's in and what's out for each of us this week.
00:24:55
Speaker
Jason, um I see in our podcast notes something. Do you want to elaborate on what this means? Yeah. Yeah, what's infamy is a topic. Do phone ruins concerts?
00:25:08
Speaker
What do you think, Oscar? Do phones ruin concerts? Yes. am pretty guilty at... taking my phone out to take videos and photos of concerts that I attend that I never, ever go back and look at again.
00:25:24
Speaker
Yeah. And I just eat some storage on my phone. Because you know me, I go to a ton of concerts. And so I'm constantly taking, snapping photos and videos.
00:25:35
Speaker
But what I will say, do not have my phone out the entirety of the concert. And I see lots and lots of people who have their phones out the entirety of a concert.
00:25:48
Speaker
They're basically watching the concert through their phone screen. And it's like live in the moment, like take a couple of photos and videos, but live in the moment. Because what I do is if I want to go back and relive a specific moment, I just YouTube it and find a better vantage point or view than whatever I had and rewatch it on YouTube because it's Everyone is uploading their videos to YouTube or TikTok or wherever. And I'm pretty successful at being able to find exact concert moments that were memorable online posted by a different user.
00:26:20
Speaker
So I don't rely on... having to capture every special moment in a show. And I've seen artists get mad on stage when everyone has their phones out.
00:26:32
Speaker
I've seen just this, it's like a compulsion for, especially I think like Gen Z and I mean us millennials are guilty of it too, but it's like, put your phone away and like live in the moment.
00:26:43
Speaker
That's my opinion. So I do think that phones do do ruin concerts so that I would say that that take is in for me. Well, half agree with you. See, I cannot make up my mind on this topic.
00:26:58
Speaker
That's why I want to bring it up and discuss with you. Because I did two big concert event recently with EDC and WorldPride. And I purposefully did not touch my phone at all during EDC.
00:27:13
Speaker
And then I used it more on WorldPride and ended up losing my phone. But that's another story. yeah I heard about that. But... I realized that there are a lot of reasons for you to have your phone out.
00:27:26
Speaker
Not everyone can afford to see that artist again, or it's a one in a lifetime moment. And that clip might be your only memory of that event.
00:27:37
Speaker
And then i also realized that a lot of the clips that we did was clips with our friends, like actually capturing our ourself. like yeah right Capturing joy is valid.
00:27:48
Speaker
Just don't let it replace the real joy in real time. right we even Because the last concert that we went together was Sabrina last year. And even some of my most favorite photos was like us in the pit next to the stage and taking pictures with each other. that are They're so cute. And it's not even of the performer. It's like pictures of us so that we can look back and be like, oh my gosh, look at us having the best time of our life at this show.
00:28:13
Speaker
So... I agree with that. But like to your point earlier, you know, like you are filming a shaky video, you're screaming, blocking your own view, people's view.
00:28:26
Speaker
You're paying $400 to see this and that's all you're going to pay attention to. Like that is not filming to remember. That is just a comportion. The other thing that I want to bring up is being present because It's almost like what you were talking about is that we trust our phone to record the memory for us more than our actual sensory experience.
00:28:49
Speaker
And I wanted people to start thinking about their experiences, about how you physically feel in a concert and how the music moves you or the lights or you know whatever substance you're on.
00:29:04
Speaker
You can actually start feeling that then you know trying to capture something. And i think that is better than having terabyte of concert video on your phone. So look back, right?
00:29:19
Speaker
Yeah, because you're not really going to capture the essence of your experience on an iPhone. You're just not. Yeah. So this both pros and cons for me, I still cannot make up my mind.
00:29:31
Speaker
I think for me, it's like phones are okay as long as you don't use that the whole time. I like that take. For me this week, Do you want to know what's out?
00:29:43
Speaker
What? I'm nervous to say this. Right now. What's out for me are labubus.
00:29:57
Speaker
Okay. Okay. All right. I feel like you're going to have some opinions here. i love to me it Let me explain myself. So if you've been living under a rock,
00:30:07
Speaker
for the last couple months. And you don't know what we're talking about, which you probably do. La Boo Boo's were created in 2015, and they're part of a graphic novel series.
00:30:19
Speaker
think the inspiration behind the series is it is Nordic myth and of like creatures. And they started being sold in mystery boxes in 2009 by Pop Mart, which is a Chinese retailer.
00:30:36
Speaker
So they have been the absolute craze. I cannot escape La Boo Boo content on any social media platform. It's everywhere. And people are going crazy over La Boo Boo's.
00:30:49
Speaker
They are small, round creatures with large ears, serrated teeth, and big eyes. And I'm so sorry, but I have yet to see one that I actually think is cute.
00:31:03
Speaker
I think they're kind of ugly and I'm not quite understanding the craze because people are buying these up and reselling them for ah huge markup.
00:31:15
Speaker
People are obsessed and they're putting them on Birkins and luxury handbags and People are collecting them like crazy. And you you need to put that meme of the devil wear Prada and the boo-boo on the podcast recap.
00:31:30
Speaker
I will. But I want your take on this because they're completely out for me. Don't understand the hype solely because I think that they're ugly. And understand the history behind them. And I think they're cool as probably a collectible for people that are into that lore, but everybody is going nuts over them.
00:31:53
Speaker
So I think there is a very interesting take on this. I think your reaction to it is the reason why it's popular. Just a fad that was popularized by the Asian diaspora in the Western countries, right? It's sold by a Chinese company. Mm-hmm.
00:32:11
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you know Anytime that you bring it out in public, you're signifying that your literally like you somebody who has probably generational trauma and immigrate to the the United States or Europe you know at a young age.
00:32:25
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So it has many layers of community baked to it. But I don't think a lot of these people that are going crazy over La Boo Boo's understand this.
00:32:35
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Not at all. Not all. But the thing is, the more it gained popularity and sort of getting a bit of a backlash, the more it's going to be very wink-wink, nudge-nudge for people who understand original themes behind this.
00:32:57
Speaker
Because it's basically sort of like a chosen family type of signifier. for a lot of people. And it's obviously horrifyingly ugly. It's designed to be ugly. It's a little monster you carry around. Yeah. Right?
00:33:15
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Yeah. Not fashionable in any way at all. Not even East Asian myth. It was like Northern European myth or something like that.
00:33:27
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So it's sort of like a contradictory in its own for its existence. And when you marry that to, you know, people going crazy over it and it's getting value because people are going crazy over it and everything becomes sort of an investment piece.
00:33:45
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all of that converging into just this weird vortex of people hating and loving. And the thing is, we're talking about on the pot, so it's doing its thing.
00:33:57
Speaker
Just like Sabrina Carpenter earlier, you know, all controversy is a good controversy, but sometimes they just exist to be thing. yeah It doesn't have to mean anything. And I think that's my tech on it.
00:34:11
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Yeah. I think my take is it's giving fad. It's giving overconsumption. it's giving overly hyped. And it's giving it's out for me.
00:34:27
Speaker
You know, i still carry my labubu around. we know you have. I carry one in World Pride. And my, oh my God, I had a little Prada outfit I made for my labubu. Yeah.
00:34:40
Speaker
And it fell off. ah Probably with my phone. Oh my gosh. Jason, we can't take you anywhere. And I guess we can't take your labubu anywhere either. no protect my labubu from me.
00:34:53
Speaker
But you know what, like anything else, eventually it will fall out of our collective memory and it's just going to be looked back with nostalgia. So there'll just be millions of them in the landfill. and Exactly. And I was going to just say that, like, and then afterwards, like more oil is going to be dig out to make them. So let's just enjoy it for what it is.
00:35:16
Speaker
Oh gosh. Well, maybe one day I'll change my mind and I might be sporting a la boo-boo. With a Birkin? Is that the only way you're going to support it? Yeah, on a Birkin.
00:35:27
Speaker
The only acceptable way. Well, Jason, before we sign off, we do have our final segment of the pod, which is always cringe of the week. So what's cringing you out week?
00:35:41
Speaker
This might be controversial. Just like our last segment. This episode is very controversial. My cringe of the week is, first of all, I'm all for bi power, bi erasure, but exclusively lesbians, famous celebrities who are lesbians coming out with boyfriends is giving me queer baiting, is giving me cringey, is giving me you are not lesbian to start with.
00:36:17
Speaker
And especially if they base their entire career over their sexuality and it's making me uncomfortable. So give me an example. Who are you talking about?
00:36:29
Speaker
Who else but the girl who invented gay pop, Jojo Siwa. I figured that's who you were referencing. Billie Eilish, Fletcher, Demi Lovato. Demi Lovato.
00:36:45
Speaker
You can't put that in there. Yes, I can. Because she's not a Vemi anymore. She's back to being straight. Vemi. sorry, Demi. You just can't co-opt a whole thing and then just go a 180 and we can read you to filth from the start. You know.
00:37:01
Speaker
And I think Jojo is very young. Yo-Yo. Yo-Yo. Jojo. Jojo. Jojo. so
00:37:12
Speaker
JoJo Siwa very young and she's allowed to play any type of experiment she want, but she was brought up in a very intense environment that put being gay as her career. And it felt to me like a prop, like a costume when she come out with...
00:37:33
Speaker
you know, such a public, not even soft launch of her new boyfriend. Yeah. It's giving me sign of a recession because, you know, in the recession, everything goes backwards.
00:37:46
Speaker
in During Pride Month, no less, like that is so disappointing. And not because of her new relationship, like it would support her doing whatever she want.
00:37:58
Speaker
It was because of everything that she did before. it's, it's basically shitting on the support that the lesbian community has given her throughout all these years.
00:38:10
Speaker
I keep seeing the memes of, on what planet did Jojo Siwa get a boyfriend before I did?
00:38:18
Speaker
Right? And like she said, she invented gay pop. So like like, yeah. Like that's giving entitlement and out of touch. And no, you did not. Yeah. Yeah.
00:38:30
Speaker
It's like the guy from Queer Eye all of a sudden coming out like, oh, I am going to host... a gun show no like oh i didn't hear about this no it's a hypothetical like imagine that guy that cut hair on queer eye coming out with that yeah fans can absolutely feel betrayed if that's all you do and then you literally change your tune yeah it becomes your identity and then you do yeah like to your point uh 180 Yeah, because it's no longer profitable.
00:38:58
Speaker
That's the reason. Well, take Billie Eilish, for example. Like one of the biggest song of last year was her collab with Charlie XCX about women's underwear.
00:39:10
Speaker
Guess. ah really? they Yeah. One of the biggest collab of last year. oh I don't listen to Billie Eilish, so... It's very popular with, you know, younger audience and we love mar Charlie. Charlie Stans. Yeah.
00:39:23
Speaker
Yeah. But that's fair and all. But like that song became like the face of bi women sexuality or gay women's sexuality. and For her to come out with dating men, it makes queer audience become skeptical and jaded.
00:39:42
Speaker
And unfortunately, it makes us assume all of the potential representation that are coming out to be just baiting. Like we would naturally suspect anybody coming out and profit off of the community coming on.
00:39:56
Speaker
So just like you know I have already told you from the start, I'm very suspect of Chaperone being bisexual. I have some takes, maybe some not favorable ones on that woman and for many different reasons.
00:40:12
Speaker
And maybe we can discuss her ah next week or sometime this summer. I think that would be a good topic. We could do a little deep dive into it. Miss Chapel, last name Roan.
00:40:24
Speaker
I like her music. I do have to say she's a great performer. As much as i dislike Jojo Siwa's music, I like Chapel's. So we'll see. She just needs some good media training.
00:40:36
Speaker
She does. Yeah. yeah wellll We'll talk about it like maybe next week. Well, you know what? We're not perfect either. like you know Maybe someday I'll come out that I am not gay and that I am a straight man all along and ah that I will become a stand-up citizen and pillar of the community.
00:41:00
Speaker
You couldn't even come out as a top if you wanted to. Yeah.
00:41:06
Speaker
I don't think so. Excuse me. i have evidence that I'm kidding. i'm kidding. My verse King.
00:41:17
Speaker
ah Just to close that out, nobody owns your sexuality but you. And I understand it's very hard to be anybody in the public eye these days.
00:41:28
Speaker
However, please do us all a favor, the community a favor, to make sure that you profit without ah abandoning us during Pride Month.
00:41:40
Speaker
his June's already been a rough one and we're only halfway through the month. Exactly. Yeah, stop kissing man. Come on. Leave it to us. Leave it to the gay man.
00:41:54
Speaker
Well, thank you, listeners, for tuning in to this week's pod. had a great time with you, Jason. Same here. Episode eight.
00:42:05
Speaker
I feel like we just started this project yesterday. but I feel like there are like five emotion era for me already.
00:42:17
Speaker
What's the best friendship without a little drama here and there?
00:42:22
Speaker
Any closing thoughts?
00:42:26
Speaker
Let's move on to that from that real quick. Not many closing thoughts for me this week. I'm just ready to go enjoy ah enjoy a grill out tonight and should be kind of a normal week ahead. So just trying to enjoy summer. We had a really rainy spell and I don't think it's going to end anytime soon, which is why I'm happy to flying out to San Diego next weekend. But um We've have literally had rain every single day.
00:42:53
Speaker
i think today's the only day that it's not raining for the next week.
00:43:00
Speaker
So that's what's new with me. What about you? It's a beautiful day here. i hope to spend some time outside as well. ah I cannot wait to be hanging out with you really soon. I'm going to go to New York City next week and just enjoying the summer.
00:43:19
Speaker
you know Yeah, absolutely. It's the time to do it. Yeah. Oh, and also we did discuss this when I see you at the beginning of July for our trip to see Kesha. that we will be recording an episode of the pod in person. person I know i cannot wait. We're going to pack up the equipment and we have beautiful space to record. and so you listeners will get to see us.
00:43:44
Speaker
Well, we'll get to see each other in the flesh, but then the listeners will be able to see us together and not across the country from each other. Hopefully we don't kill each other. yeah Nobody pushed the other off of the balcony.
00:43:59
Speaker
We're not anticipating that, but you never know. Like always, where do the audience find you, Oscar? Oh, yes. Instagram. Instagram is O-C-A-R-1-0-1. And your handle is?
00:44:10
Speaker
Jason Whenever. And of course, the pod's handle is OopsPodOfficial. Bye, bestie. Bye, bestie.
00:44:26
Speaker
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00:44:42
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00:44:58
Speaker
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