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Moot Loot episode #TBWP hosted by Swailes the Friendly Green Witch.

This episode's Moot Loot guest is the lovely Rachel Sara Roberts of Wolf Woman Rising. A  priestess and published author with a love of Lupa the She Wolf  and a fantastic guest. There is howling!

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Music by Geoff Harvy
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Inspiration from Wolves and Mythology

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I have a little bit of thing about wolves as well, hence the wolf room wisdom. Wolves are just so inspiring for me, both the wolves, you know, in real life, the real life wolves and the way they work with the pack, but also the mythology that's connected around them as well. So that's mostly what I share in my books.
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Oh, funny noises.
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It's the wolves. It's the wolves.

Introduction to the Belle Witch Podcast

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Hello witches and beautiful souls. Welcome back to the Belle Witch podcast with B Swales, your friendly green witch. Hope you're doing well. Thank you so much for giving me your time and subscribing to me. I'm pushing on 180 odd subscribers which is just amazing. You know, 180 people like me so much they're subscribing to me. So good. Thank you for that. I really appreciate it.

Guest Introduction: Rachel Sarah Roberts

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Can you guess what this next episode is about from that little blooper reel I just shared with you? Something to do with wolves. The guest for this episode is a big fan of She-Wolf Looper. Belly dancing, writing books about her, her school of wisdom. She's such an all-around awesome guest.
00:01:44
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And a bit of a dab hand as well as she's had appearances on three other podcasts before the Belle Witch podcast. One being Witching Around, which is the Witchfest official podcast.

Podcast Collaborations and Community Shout-Outs

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And the other two is The Wheel and The Witch Next are probably similar to this one.
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I like to do a little shout out for fellow Podders, so hi witchy Podders, I like to support you. So far I've only listened to witching around but I'm going to put the two on my list of things. I want to hear the massive list, I need more ears, I tell you there's just so many podcasts out there I want to listen to. This episode was an absolute joy to record, we had a right good chinwag, a good fun time talking about things.

Support and Sharing Encouragement

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and how dark life can be and how it helps to have a howl and yes we do have a sample howl from my guests so do stay tuned for that and if you are enjoying what I'm doing please let me know let other people know
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share the word and you can always sponsor me on Ko-Fi or buy me a coffee. It's all linked in my link tree which is in the show notes.

Rachel's Business 'Wolf Woman Rising'

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If you want to show this witch a bit of love please do I do this for nothing it's a bit of a labour of love it's a hobby that I love but I'm not quite big enough yet to get sponsorship but yet being the key word because I just love doing it and I can easily see it being a career for me.
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Anyway, without any further ado, because I'm blabbering a bit, I will press play on the old recording and I hope you enjoy it and I'll see you on the other side. Hello everybody and welcome back to the Bellwetch podcast with me, Swales, a friendly Green Witch. Very excited with this next Mootloot guest, which is Rachel Sarah Roberts of the Wolf Woman Rising. Hello and welcome Rachel.
00:03:35
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Hello, thank you for having me. We've just been having some technical issues, but we've just sorted them out now, so let's get going. Fingers crossed. Yeah, definitely.
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Can you introduce what your business is and what you're all about?

Passion for Ancient Dance Forms

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Of course, yes. So I'm Rachel. I'm the founder and creator of Wolfram and Rising. So that's my wisdom school where I guide and lead students in embodying my three guiding principles, which are authenticity, trust and courage. And so with them,
00:04:06
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we dive through really ancient mythology bringing it forth so we can embody it so taking those ancient historic tales and making them ours so we can be empowered by them and part of that is I'm an author and so I have books that I have written and are writing and also as well I forgot to mention the first one so now we're doing a second one it's even better I also went under the dancing tree which is my dance school my sixth floor sacred dance so I've been
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the sacred dance teacher for 17 years this October as well. So I connect people through history, the dancing and nature alchemy.

Community in Dance and Storytelling

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That's my three vibes. That's awesome. Because I was listening to a podcast you were on, you were talking about belly dancing, how magical it is and because it's like a ritual, isn't it?
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It is, yeah, and I'm really attracted to dance forms that are ancient, you know, that I know that women have been doing for thousands and thousands of years, and belly dance, you know, is an example of that. The other satellite teaches Hawaiian hula, and they have this ancient history. To know that women were doing this thousands of years ago, it connects us, you know, kind of womb to womb. It's like this energetic timeline, but these
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These moves that are used in both of those are just so universal and they do something that's just pure magic. Like there's no way of explaining it all away than it is magic because healing and the empowerment that women get through dance is just.
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indescribable. Grounded, isn't it? Yeah, definitely. I mean, a lot of the moves that you're using in both the hula and in ballet dancing are using the hips, which bring us, you know, deeper into our kind of our intuition, our wisdom, our centre as a woman. I mean, men do both of those dance styles as well. So, you know, with the Hawaiian dancing, Polynesian dancing, the men use it. Traditionally, it would have been used for warrior training. It's always wonderful watching the men doing it, you know, in their little
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just leaves. And the belly dancing as well, you know, the men also do the belly dancing and everybody in these cultures, these ancient cultures comes together to tell stories, to dance, to make music, you know, it's a really community thing that draws you together and you've got the stories of the ancestors that are told, you know, food dance and food song.

Authenticity in Dance Expression

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And I miss that we don't have that anymore, you know, that that isn't something we do, you know, we're
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We're so separate, we sit in our little houses on our own watching TV and we lack this connection, you know, this real, I'm not just meeting someone, you know, once a week or once a month for a community connection. We lack that greater community that is around you all the time supporting you, you know, enabling you to share that links you into something bigger than yourself. I think we're really missing something of not having that anymore and I wish we could bring it back.
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I can't dance. Could anybody dance? Everybody can dance. I think that this is why
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I love belly dancing and Hawaiian hula so much in that, like, watching strictly, there's no way I could dance like that. You know, you've got a very much like a format and a choreography and it's very structured. I think it's quite masculine, actually, with that structure and that, like, it has to be this way, only that way here, now. Whereas the feminine, you know, she flows. She's like water.
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And I think when you just let your body intuitively just go with what it wants to do, that is dancing. I mean, I say to my students, you can be belly dancing and be standing completely still and not moving at all because dance is the expression of the heart and the soul. It's the bringing forth of self. And I've seen some amazing belly dancers that she doesn't have to move because
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you can just look at her eyes and you're seeing a story. And I do think that everybody's authentic way of moving that is their dance. So even though we don't look like the people perhaps on Strictly, that doesn't mean that we can't dance. It's just that we're our own difference and our differences.
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What makes us special makes us unique. That's the bit we should be celebrating.

History and Belly Dancing

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So wiggling around at home, you know, is a valid dance. One of the stories that I kind of share with my students is there's a particular move called the Egyptian Walk that most of my students find quite difficult. And I was the same. I found this difficult for years. And what it took for me was just literally just like boogying around in my kitchen to Ramstein for like half an hour.
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And it just suddenly happened. And that's not bay dancing music. It's not strictly authentic. But because I was letting go, I'd probably get a bit angry actually, like really getting into the vibe, you know, stomping into the ground. And it just worked because I was relaxed. I was enjoying myself. That's where the dance is.
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There is a connection, isn't there? I mean, like when you go see concerts, I love live music. I went at Chemical Brothers a couple of weeks ago and the dancing there were just amazing. Everybody was so into the music and in the moment and probably magical, isn't it? Were you a belly dancer before you did the Wolf Woman Rising?
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Yeah so creating the wisdom scores is a new thing just in the past few years to kind of a way for me to share what's in my books. However kind of the belly dancing and the history are like my two branches really and they've always been there with me since the beginning. So I actually started teaching belly dancing when I was 16. I was

Empowering History through Dance

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really quite young so I started teaching after school but at the same time
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I was obsessed with history. So that's always been there. My degree and my masters are in history. I kind of wanted to be, you know, one of these professors that traveled around Egypt. That was kind of one of my fantasies that didn't happen. But, you know, I did work in castles instead. So they've always kind of been there. And I think that, like, for me, I've always adored history.
00:09:49
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But I've always wanted a way to make history matter in that it empowers people and it helps to heal people. It's one of my things I love to say, like what's the point of like knowledge of just having it? It just sits in your head like a dusty bookshelf. It needs to be used.
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And why not use it as a tool to, you know, to help humanity, you know, to, to empower us, to heal us. Dance has been the way that I suppose I've been able to take the history and bring it into something that is a tool for turning that knowledge into wisdom.

Dance Classes and Online Wisdom School

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Knowledge becomes wisdom when it's embodied, when it's lived.
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So I started out doing dance meditations, and the meditations, you know, were guided journeys, taking you through landscapes, historic places, you know, like with the goddesses. That's how the two have linked together, and that's kind of been with me since I was a teenager, so looking at two decades now, really. And people go, gosh, you were so young, and I was like, it's just always been there. I don't know why. I think it's a destiny thing, you know? It's just, that's what's in my veins.
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And is it in person, your wisdom school, or is it online? So the dancing is in person because I feel that we need to have that community and be with people. I need to see my students and tell them all my funny jokes. They only come across, you know, in person. But, you know, the wisdom school is online, so people can join that from all over the world. And of course, you know, the books, they're available to everybody anywhere.

Upcoming Book on Mythological Goddess Looper

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That's so cool you wrote the book. It's out at the end of the book. Yeah, so my first book, Looper, She-Wolf of Rome, Mother of Destiny, that's out in two weeks, so 24th of November. And that book is specifically about the mythology of the goddess Looper. So Looper is the She-Wolf of Rome in the foundation story of Romulus and Remus. She is the She-Wolf that rescues Romulus and Remus, takes him into her cave,
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and offers them this initiation, you know, where they're becoming kings. And then she really is the guardian of ancient Rome. So the book shares about her mythology, how to connect with her. I retell her story in it, which was really important for me. When you look at her story and a lot of the patriarchal reciting of it, it was just like, oh, a she-wolf just turned up, just rescued them, and then they just kind of became kings. Like a she-wolf would just turn up,
00:12:12
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and just not eat the kids, you know? And all these magical things happen. Like, to me, it was so obvious that was Epiphany of the Goddess, you know, that she was working there on purpose. So I have a retelling of her story in that. And, you know, a little bit about the history as well. You know, a lot of people kind of know Lupa because of, you know, the Lupas of ancient Rome, which were the prostitutes, you know, they were given her name.
00:12:36
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Because, of course, the women that were prostitutes were deemed to be predators. They would go out of their way to, you know, snare men and take them into their den.
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And part of the book is about reclaiming that as well, that reclaiming a woman's wildness is not wrong or predatory or bad, but how her wildness is probably her greatest gift because that's where her authenticity is. When we come and strip back all of those layers of social conditioning and what we're told we should do and who we should be,

Book Series on Roman Mythology

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we come back to our wild self out in the woods. That's where our power is, you know. And we sometimes get scared of that, like we get scared of the wolf. And that's actually what my second book is about. So Wolf, Embody Your Inner Wolf, is about, again, those three guardian principles, courage, trust and authenticity.
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It's about how we've made those things scary. Being different, being authentic is scary. We choose fear over courage and we choose mistrust of both ourselves and others because we're told that we're wrong. We're bad and we're ugly, just like the wolf.
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But what if he embraced the wolf within and allowed it to roam free? What would be possible then?

Publishing Experience and Manifesting

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And there's three. Have you written all three of them? So the third one is about Pantheon, the Romans. So it's all about the Roman gods and goddesses. That's currently in the edit stage. So yeah, so wolf is out next year and then the Roman Pantheon will be the year after.
00:14:03
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Oh my god, it's so exciting. And that's with pagan portals. Yeah, so pagan portals is a branch of moon books. Yeah. And they have amazing books. So yeah, go check them out. They're good to work with, I said.
00:14:19
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Yeah, yeah, they're fantastic. When I first started writing, I kind of had no idea what I was doing really. I just knew I had to

Alignment with Purpose

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do it. I was just trusting the universe. I just had to write. It felt like the right time. And I heard loads of horror stories about publishers and getting published and like, oh, it took years and you'll get loads of rejections and it's horrible and they edit your work and destroy it. And I was like, oh, I don't know even how I found new books, but
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I just knew as soon as I saw them, this is my publisher, like I meant to be with them. I applied, I sent my manuscript in and within like 24 hours, you know, it was accepted. And I was like, whoa, like I told people that this is not normal. And I was like, but especially they're amazing. But I think there's when you come into that place of authenticity and you're you're doing what's you know, you're trusting the universe and you're being courageous, it will come to meet you.
00:15:09
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and it will open the right door, you know, and it will and it will it will feel useful, you know, when we when we get that resistance, you know, sometimes we think it's not working or this is really difficult. Sometimes it can be because we're trying to make things happen.
00:15:22
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an example of that like when I was coming to write my second book I was convinced it was going to be a certain book I was like right it's going to be this and I and I kept turning up the library trying to write I just

Embracing Nature's Unpredictability

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couldn't it was like mind block like it wasn't happening and I was just like why isn't this happening so I thought okay just shut that down and I just felt like I had to start writing this other book and then Wolf literally just flew out of me like it just
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the flowing of a river. And I was like, oh, that's, that's why like the universe knew I was meant to do this. And I think the same happened with the publisher. I just found the place I was meant to be, you know, my, my tribe and they are such a family that are so supportive of the authors and of their community as well. So definitely go and check out more books. I love them.
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Yeah, I have a massive pile of vegan portals. Oh wow fabulous. I mean they're little and the bite size aren't they? I like how vast all the different topics are. You were saying doing the whole trust in the process and things will come to you and meet you and that in itself is quite a challenge but when you get there it is true isn't it? It's like manifesting.
00:16:28
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I think as we get older, we get better at my age now, I'm a lot better at it. We worry less and we accept that stuff's going to happen because we're ready for it. That takes a lot. Yeah. Yeah. And I think we're so used to trying to control, you know, I mean, nature in the way that we form it into things.

Choosing Authenticity

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And I know there's been a lot recently, I don't know if you had like really bad floods up your way because you're up north, aren't you? And there was a lot of, you know, the storms and the rain and a lot of people were like, like, why isn't the government stopping this?
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like the government can control the weather you know and we we expect like as humans to be able to control everything like stick it in a box and we do exactly the same things to ourselves you know we we do it again and again and it most these things are from fear you know because we want to fit in or we're told we should be a certain way you know and so we we make castles do that and
00:17:19
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It's one of these things that comes with practice, everything comes with practice. That's something we can apply from dance as well, is just practice makes progress. It's really difficult with anything. Just keep doing it. Just keep doing it until it becomes normal, until it becomes a habit. Whether that's positive thinking, whether that's accepting yourself, whether that's being courageous, whether that's listening to your intuition, just keep doing it.
00:17:41
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Just keep doing it again and again and again. And ignore the rules and what people say you should be doing and ticking the boxes like you're saying. I mean, you only get one life, one chance, you know,

Identity as a Priestess

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why wait? Just do what you need to do. And the thing is, we can only do ourselves well.
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anything other, we try to be anybody else we try to be, we're not going to do it well. Anything we can do well as ourselves, you know, that so we should do that and we'll always be the best we can be when we are ourselves. Absolutely. I read somewhere that you're a priestess. Yes. Do you have a cover then? No, so I'm, I'm very much, what would you call that? Maybe a loner.
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I'm the lone wolf so I find it really difficult to label myself in anything like you know often people say this like you know are you a witch, are you a druid, are you a pagan. I think as soon as I put myself into any kind of definition or group I find that
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I try to conform to that. I mean, I call myself a priestess because that's the term that resonates most for me. It's that historical connection I feel like I, as a priestess, I facilitate the divine. So my role, you know, is a speaker of wisdom, is a share of wisdom. My patron is Athena Minerva. She is my guide, my guardian, my muse.

Holistic Spiritual Identity

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And I work on behalf of her, so I cast myself as a precess of her. My training was a precess of the Rose lineage, but it has always been Athena Minerva that's called me. And I think precess probably resonates the most out of all those labels if I had to choose one. So this is why I say precess, because I see precess as a facilitator.
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that she creates the space for other people to come into that into their own learning. You know like for me the term witch kind of means someone that is in a coven that comes together in community and they do rituals together so they create magic together you know whatever that may be you know if they're in rituals so many or just in the words that they speak and the love that they hold together.

Inclusive Spiritual Perspective

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Where to me as a priestess I feel that that resonates more because I am made to teach, I'm made to share wisdom and that's kind of where I function best. It's my best offering. But yeah I know it can be very confusing for people because people are like well what are you and I'm like well I'm Rachel.
00:20:02
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They need to know. I know. I'm like, well, I'm a soul if you're going to get really specific. That's it. Full stop. Full line. That's it. I'm a soul. If I ever tried to put a label, I just feels like, oh, come on, that now. So I can't be anything else. Well, you could be anything you want to be. You could be exiting. You could be Jewish, which Christian, Muslim, pagan, whatever. You could be everything if you wanted to.
00:20:27
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It's easy to call yourself a pagan because pagan just means you care about the earth and you recycle your garden. Yeah, exactly. There's loads of people who are pagans and they don't even know it. Yeah, yeah.

Healing with Flower Essences

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I love that. Yeah, definitely. Like, do you recycle then you are a pagan? Yeah, and I think it means more.
00:20:48
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then we define it to be. These terms that you see in the dictionary and there's like two sentences that sum things up and it's not that way at all.
00:20:59
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I love to share with people like that. I grew up a Christian, you know, my mother is a very passionate Christian and I love Jesus. I mean, like he's awesome. No, but honestly, what he is talking about and love, that is it, love. He's all about love and we need love in this world. And yet you will get some people that will close off from that, like, cause I can't deal with the church. You're like, well, the church isn't Christ, just as, you know, all paganism isn't every pagan.
00:21:25
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You can't, again, it's boxing things. You're saying this is exactly what it is and this is what it always will be. So it has been and it's nothing else. I kind of talk about this, like I call them my council, you know, my people, but particularly in my guides, you know, and Jesus is up there with Freya and Minerva. There's no reason why he wouldn't be. They're all about sharing love. That's what it comes down to in the end. And I think by kind of cutting off that possibility of cutting off any kind of potential
00:21:52
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healing, connection, or compassion, you know. I've read as well because I did a little bit of research but not too much because I have to try and think like the listener. I read you were a flower essence healer and I were like yeah, oh what's that?
00:22:16
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That sounds amazing. Yeah, so I adore flower essences. They're one of the primary tools that I have used in my own healing journey and also with my students. So flower essences, essence is really another term that means soul. Say when you have herbal medicine, you're working with a chemical, the plant. When you're working with essential oils, you're working with, you know, a distilled oil and they can have spiritual effects as well. But flower essences is specifically working with the soul of the plant.
00:22:43
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There's a belief that there are truly, truly passionate believers that everything has its divine blueprint, as in there is something that that thing is meant to

Nature's Generosity and Symbolism of Sunflowers

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do. And that includes us. We all have a blueprint. We have an indication of that in herbal medicine, you know, that every plant has this blueprint. You know, it's going to help us with a specific perhaps illness or wellbeing tool. The soul of the plant also has a blueprint. It has something that is going to come and help us with. So for example, borage is the flower essence for courage.
00:23:11
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you know, it supports you with embodying courage, no transforming fear into courage. So the way that I create the flower essences and then I use them specifically of one-to-one clients. So we work with the flower essences, you know, to kind of discern which flower essences would work best with whatever that person is going through, whatever their desires, dreams or needs are.
00:23:32
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And then I'll create a formula bringing all of the essences into that formula that the client will then consume the essence either orally or just through their skin. I think just being near a plant and you receive that essence, you can meet them soul to soul. I mean, how often have you been near a tree and just sat at the base of that tree and just felt its medicine?
00:23:53
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That's its essence, that's its meeting you soul to soul, but with the flat essences you're kind of going to that place on purpose, so you're choosing to receive the healing and the soul of that plant. There's no limits to it, like there is no limits to nature and what she can provide and how she can heal. Like she is unconditional, she just gives and gives and gives and gives and she asks nothing in return and that's one of the things that just, it means me to tears.
00:24:16
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It just opens up my heart the fact that she just gives, you know, no matter how we treat the earth, no matter how much we take, she just gives and gives and gives. And the flower essence are one of the ways that she gives, I said unconditionally. And what's wonderful about a flower essence as well is there's no side effects. So sometimes chemically in the body, you know, we can react to things or just not meet them. But because you're receiving the soul of the plant, there's no negative side effects, but it does work physically, spiritually, mentally, emotionally.
00:24:45
Speaker
They're awesome. Aw, that's lovely. They really are. I really like that. That is so lovely. When you think of your favourite flower, I think a lot of that's already there, isn't it? I mean, I love sunflowers and I love them and I try and grow them really big. But when you look at a sunflower, it's just so, it's happy, isn't it? And it's warming and the bees love it and it's showed. It's really wide. So I do get that.
00:25:08
Speaker
absolutely get that yeah. And I think each flower like sunflower few is our totem flower like that specific has a meaning for our life and what we need to embody so I mean the sunflower is all about confidence it's about shining it's about sharing yourself with the world which is what you're doing for this podcast so you are embodying sunflower at the moment and it will support you in this you know it is about opening up and having the confidence to share who you are without any fear without any worry but again your authenticity.
00:25:35
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so it's a perfect one for you. Amazing yeah it's offering stuff in it like it offers food for the bees and then after that it offers your sunflower seeds that you can eat yeah or you can plant so oh that's amazing I love flowers I love them. Well several down here right an access consciousness practitioner an access consciousness practitioner access consciousness
00:26:00
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Some people have heard it because of access bars.

Access Consciousness and New Possibilities

00:26:03
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So access bars is what you call is the practice that say I would use on the client.
00:26:08
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I would place my hands upon their head and it's about kind of rewriting all of our emotional keys. With Access Consciousness, it's coming into the consciousness of reality and I said rewriting things. So if you think about like ourselves and our brain as a computer and every time we say or do something or experience something, it kind of logs, you know, like it creates a file in the computer.
00:26:31
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And we've got all of these files and like, you know, say we've got a file that's, I'll give you an example for my life. So how we relate to men. Okay. There's a whole file on there that's full of trauma and negativity and pain. So every time I meet a man, that folder pings up and it's like, Hey, look at all this stuff that happened in the past. Like, you know, you take, you want to add to this folder. So access consciousness is doing is it's rewriting that. So it will take that folder, not just put it in the trash, but it will wipe it clean.
00:26:58
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So you can start afresh. So it's saying, well, what's possible now? So access consciousness is about being in the question. So we don't need the answer, but it's being in the question that's possible because when you ask the question, that is what opens the door. That's what offers you a new laptop, a new file where you can rewrite anything that you want to.
00:27:18
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So it's about possibility and the potentiality of self. Again, I worked with that as a tool for myself. And now I share it and I use it mostly now in invocations and the affirmations that I use with my students. And I kind of use that rewiring through the affirmations, you know, so we're using the power of words and magic of words to create, to destroy and create.

Reclaiming Personal Power

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So we, we literally just wipe the disc and then we can start afresh. But, you know, we wipe that disc.
00:27:46
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knowing that's what was in that folder, having awareness of that. We can take the wisdom from it, but we don't react or live or choose to act from that place anymore. Choose to create something new and come into potentiality instead.
00:28:00
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That sounds massive. That must take a while. Well, that's the thing is it doesn't. We make things complicated. We think that it must be complicated. Nothing must be easy. But again, that's a tape that we keep playing. Everything must be hard. Everything must be hard. It's always going to be hard. Well, why? Why can't we choose easy? Why are we choosing hard? And if we're saying it's hard, well, is that what we're creating?
00:28:27
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Why couldn't this be easy? What if we could make this easy? And just being in those questions, you know, what does that invite then by asking that question, by saying what would make this easy? Or how could this be easier? We're allowing the possibility of ease rather than just saying it's hard, full stop. That's it. That's the way it's going to be. But asking how could it be easy? We open the door.

Overcoming Trauma

00:28:49
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That's a form of manifest, isn't it? Yeah, yeah, definitely. And it takes a shift. But when you've done it, I mean, you've done it and it'll last. Yeah. Yeah. And it's just it's just remembering that you're powerful, that you are so powerful. We kind of give our power away all the time. And I think it's as simple as remembering that we are powerful, that we are the point of creation, the point of destruction, which is the axis as far as kind of like theme tune. We have to reclaim that power. We have to choose it.
00:29:19
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We have to be it. Again, practice makes progress. We have to practice it. And we have to take full responsibility for ourselves. That's where our power lies. Going back to my example, I'm actually a victim of rape and sexual assault, so I could go, oh, it's his fault, and I'm forever going to hate men, et cetera. But if I take responsibility for how I act now, and it's been a big path for me of choosing to love men,
00:29:46
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choosing to love their power and their strength and what they can create and what they can destroy. That's been a choice again and again and again, you know, one I've had to keep coming back to. I've taken responsibility for my feelings, I've taken responsibility for the way that I've chosen to heal that, the way that I approach men now, so I know that if I approach men with the expectation that he's going to hurt me, that's me that's created that, you know, and I'm responsible for how
00:30:12
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how I act, the words I choose and what I choose to create as

Healing Gender Dynamics

00:30:17
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well. So I mean that's an extreme example but every second we're fully responsible for what we create. I've recently started doing Reiki as a business adventure and when I started out I was like am I gonna do men I'm just gonna do women just just women and then after a while I was a bit like but why why do I
00:30:34
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feel this strongly and how unfair is that you know that i'm only going to see why a certain percentage of the human race just one thing and it's like that's rubbish come on swear you'll saw it out but it is it's hard because the feminine has the feminine and the masculine has been
00:30:50
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incredibly wounded by the masculine. And there is some responsibility that needs to be taken there, that they don't continue to create that, that they don't continue to choose that. But also when you have that expectation of somebody of what they're going to be and what they're going to do, then again, we were talking before about the boxes, you put that person in a box, you're only letting them be what you expect them to be. I truly think that the masculine needs compassion, that it needs us to believe in it.
00:31:17
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to believe that it can be better than we have deemed it to be, that we need to have faith in it.
00:31:24
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it needs the feminine to say I trust you and I love you, I see everything, I know everything but I still love you and I think men have a huge burden upon their shoulders of what has been done in the past but it's not who they are, it's not necessarily what they want either, that's heavy on their shoulders so I do really feel for them. Yeah definitely and they are doing work you know I can see
00:31:48
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I can see the work being done and stuff being dismantled and my parents of today bringing up boys better and fairer than it used to be. The toxic masculinity stuff is getting addressed and that's a massive demon task to do.

Emotional Challenges for Men

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Yeah, it's huge. Yes. I really celebrate and honour their courage, you know, to be honest. And I think the men have also been doing, I don't want to do this work alone. I mean, I think we're quite lucky as women. I don't think we realise that the fact that we can talk about emotions, that we share emotions, that we have our sisters, that we can talk to our mothers, you know, from anything about, you know, body pain to how we're feeling. How many men have that? You know, we are actually quite lucky.
00:32:32
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I think we're allowed to show devotion aren't we? Yeah exactly and you know and we go about oh you know your men have got the better wages and you might have had more opportunities. Yeah they've had opportunities to create wealth and to perhaps have freedom but they haven't had the same opportunities to express their emotion, to be recognised for who they are as a person rather than as a
00:32:53
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a machine that makes buildings, that makes money, that makes, you know, that just does things. They've been very much turned into the thing that does. And we're the ones that feel, and I think that perhaps we both need the opportunity, you know, masculine and feminine, to be held in allowance, you know, for all

Wolf Archetypes and Personal Growth

00:33:12
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that we are. It's the only thing you'd like to talk about, like, more business-y stuff, your
00:33:20
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school of wonders whatever it is school of wonders oh yeah that's a good word i like that i feel like willy wonka when you say that no not going into that willy wonka and i'm actually i'm not going to go off on a willy wonka rant it'd be hard to keep into the bell witch podcast what's willy wonka a witch that's an interesting question is there anything that that i've mentioned so far that really resonates and that's for you that you want me to
00:33:50
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Shambles about I'm interested in
00:33:53
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your business in general? Like how do you get involved? Is it a subscription thing? Is it a membership thing? Is it? Cool. So yeah, the way I run is I like to do this precessing. So I like to facilitate and give people the tools so they can take them away. So I like to work, there's the right word is intensively. People can join me for training courses. Next year there's none now, this year, because we're getting towards Christmas. One of the ways I love to train people is training them into being a wolf.
00:34:24
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That's so cool. So there is a little bit of howling, a little bit of I encourage you to go out into nature. But it's also about these traits that the wolf is embodying. I use the mythology of the gods and goddesses of wolves. So the ones I work in particular, you know, Hal and Fenred. We also have Lupa and Mars, you know, Apollo and Artemis. And we work with their mythology and their particular energy to come into different aspects of the wolf. So in my second book, I kind of talk about the spiritual council of wolves.
00:34:54
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And these are the different wolf archetypes that we can embody. So by embodying these archetypes, bringing them into our body, seeing what they mean for us, we

Father Wolf Archetype

00:35:03
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can access their wisdom and see how we can be that archetype in our lives and how it would bring healing. So for example, let's take Mars as an example. He's my god, Crush. I have such Crush on Mars. So he is Father Wolf.
00:35:20
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He embodies the father that is the great protector. If we look at real wolves for a second, the father wolf is actually not the leader. In a pack, it's actually the she wolf. She is the alpha. So in every wolf pack, we have an ultimate female. And basically the female is like,
00:35:37
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okay I think we should go this way and then the male wolf is like okay I'll facilitate that for you I will take my action and create what it is that you're imagining which is very much how the masculine kind of supports a female in the world that's how they work together she brings forth the dream he creates the dream for her and the way that he facilitates and kind of creates the boundaries for that so the male wolf will kind of go out you know kind of
00:36:02
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establish and assert the boundaries around who's offering that protection, like this is our land, we're going to keep you safe within this. And then he'll go out and hunt and bring her back food, especially if she's in the den and giving birth. So if we were to embody that father wolf, it doesn't matter whether you're male or female biologically or anything in between, when you embody that father wolf, you are coming into the role of the great protector. So the way we would work is through meditation, through inquiry, through journaling, through dance.
00:36:32
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and through looking at the mythology of Mars, and we would look at how we can be a father wolf in our lives. So how are we offering ourselves own protection? How are we creating boundaries? As in, do we create a boundary that keeps everybody and everything out? Or are we creating a boundary that lets everything and everyone in? Or are we creating healthy boundaries where we have a doorkeeper that lets in
00:36:57
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what was supporters and let out love, you know, because we need to receive and we need to give, we need to have both. So Father Wolf is really about that. And also Father Wolf in bringing kind of the food to the she-wolf.
00:37:11
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You know, how do we provide for ourselves? How do we support ourselves? Because self-care and self-love requires love in action. Love is a feeling, yes, but it requires action to match it and to support it, to facilitate it. So if our wolf is bringing food back to the she-wolf, how can we support ourselves through the actions that we take? It's okay saying, yeah, I love myself.
00:37:35
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I am pretty awesome, but then you go and abuse yourself for perhaps the food you eat, or you don't exercise, or you allow yourself to be in toxic relationships, or you go and sleep with your ex again. The actions that we're taking need to support that self-care and that self-love. It's how we show that self-care and that self-love is the action. So Father Wolf would be the archetype that we'd use to do those types of things. So I've
00:38:00
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bring forth the energy of Mars for that because I think he's really a primary example of the father-wolf.

Showing Up for Personal Growth

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He is the great protector of Rome, the city of Rome, and he is the warrior. He embodies courage. So the courage to go out there, the courage to love yourself, the courage to create those boundaries, to say no and to say yes so he can really help with that. In the wolf course, this is an example, you know, you would work with all the different goddesses you'd have or God should have a month
00:38:25
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with them dancing that energy, meditating with them, journaling with them. There's rituals as well, guided rituals. So that's just one example. So I like these kind of like longer courses where you can really dive deep. I mean, like, why did you just dip your toe in the ocean? I mean, go for a minute.
00:38:44
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That's very much me. I'm kind of like, you know, I just think if you're going to do something, do it well. I want people that are going to show up. I mean, it's important that you show up for yourself. You know, if you're going to come and do my courses, I require you to show up for yourself. You need to claim your power. You need to choose for yourself. If you don't, then great, great. Just carry on with how you are. But I just think, you know, if an opportunity is there, you know, you need to take it.
00:39:09
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Nobody else can choose it for you. Again, you take that responsibility. You go there. You do the work. Because again, you've only got one life. You're only you now.
00:39:18
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why wait? Like whose permission are you waiting for? I do require my students to show up and to do the work just FYI and the other way that so there's those kind of courses like

Lupa Calia Festival and Resources

00:39:31
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that. I do offer online events as well which you know kind of shorter events so more like a taster. So I do a Lupa Calia festival every year so that's a festival connected to the goddess Lupa. It's a festival that's held in Rome every February
00:39:44
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It's like the alternative or version of Valentine's Day, a bit better. You know, they run around naked around the town, like whipping each other. Oh my God, it's amazing. I mean, I mean, we don't do that. I don't want to add very whipping people. I just like clarify that. Yeah. And then probably the best.
00:40:02
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introduction to me would be through my books or just just following me online just to I have loads of free guided meditations on SoundCloud on YouTube where you can just just listen

Rachel's Personal Empowerment Journey

00:40:14
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to me and just see if you know I'm your vibe because it might not be that's okay you know we all we all find out our teacher or we find ourselves with that teacher but yeah so I would start with the books the meditations YouTube SoundCloud and then just come and connect with me and then
00:40:29
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You can work one-to-one as well through the flower essences. So I offer a one-to-one flower essence container. So this is four months, one-to-one with me. I am there for you every step of the way. We have one-to-one coaching where we get to chat like this for a whole hour together, all about you, all that you need, your dreams and desires. And then we find the way that we can make them reality, that we can create that. Together you get flower essence formulas, you know, every month for those four months, you get per-side guided meditations, you get the flower essence meditations.
00:40:58
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I think it's wonderful. I'm biased, of course, but I just think, oh gosh, if everybody like chose this, like it changed the world. But of course I am biased because I love it. You know, I know it's worked for me. Like I won't be where I am without the tools that I use, you see. So that's why I, why I share them because, you know, I still remember when I was a teenage girl and I was, I share about this in my wolf book that I was so shy and so scared of the world.
00:41:24
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I was sick, like really sick. Like I was so scared. I couldn't even like go to the toilet last for a drink. I would go days about drinking or going to the toilet. So I was too scared to ask to go. I mean, and that's my journey now. Like now you can't shut me up. I like to talk about walls all the time, but you know, like that's quite a path. You know, I've been through the darkest parts, you know, like, like so my sexual sort. It's just one of those examples that I've been there. You know, this is why I'm so passionate about sharing it.

Transformation through Dark Moments

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that I've been to all of these places that all of these walls will take you, you know, that life takes you. And these tools have worked for me, more than worked, you know. They have empowered me beyond what I could ever expect it. If you're told my quiet little self that was hiding in a room that, you know, was locked in her room and just couldn't come out and couldn't bear to even hear herself because she was so frightened of who she was and her potentiality, you know. I don't think she's quite believed where I am now.
00:42:20
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And that's partly down to me choosing courage, my choices, taking responsibility for myself again, but also the way the divine has facilitated through goddess, through flower essences, through dance, all the wonderful tools that are offered to us. Like choosing to survive, I think. I've also had a bit of a tricky past and I can relate to a lot of what you're saying. Like I hated my childhood because it was just a mess and I want very well life and I want very popular.
00:42:46
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You know, there were times I didn't want to be here anymore. So I can totally relate. And it's like, I can't believe I felt like that. I love my life now. I've got two little girls and they're amazing. And I've got a lovely husband. It's bizarre. I think people feel so low that they're going to give it up. It's like.
00:43:02
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Yeah and I do think that those points though like I can really relate to what you were saying I had the same experience I wanted to end my life when I was in university because I was so lonely and I think more of us get to that dark place and we realise like a lot of us share this and I think we all have moments of great despair.
00:43:21
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but I think those moments are pivotal moments they're our initiation you know we have a choice at that point and and this is why I love lupa so much and I love her her story because in her story she takes Romulus and Remus the two babies you know that become the kings of Rome but they're vulnerable babies that have been condemned to be murdered and she takes them at their most vulnerable they're crying you know they were
00:43:46
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someone tried to drown them and she takes them into her cave and in the cave in the room too they are transformed they find their power and they come out ready to be kings and I think that these dark places are our caves we get taken to the cave we go into the cave into the darkness and in that place in the dark where there is nothing else we find ourselves yeah
00:44:10
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We find something, there's a gemstone, there's a crystals deep in that, the darkness of

Embracing Darkness for Growth

00:44:15
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the cave. When we think all is lost, when we can't see anything, we can't see the way out. We don't know what's there. We're full of fear. We find something there and that something then becomes our guiding light to take us back out, you know, into the outside world. And so I think these moments, if you look back, like you said now, you can't, you know, you can't imagine that, you know, looking back, that will have been a pivotal moment. That will have been the moment of pivoting.
00:44:39
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something even you will have clicked you will have known something or felt something and again we don't have to pivot we can stay there in the darkness you know that happens to some people but at that moment we have a choice to return back out to the light it's not always easy yeah you might be coring your way back out of that cave you know it might be a steep hill you might fall down a few times but it's the fact that you keep going that you keep
00:45:03
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coin to get back up. And it doesn't make that darkness in the center of the cave bad either. It's not evil. It's not wrong. It's definitely not wrong. It's actually necessary. And it has a gift. We kind of done the things that I don't resonate with. Sometimes spirituality, sometimes it's all about the light. We need to be in the light. You need to strive for the light. You need to get rid of the darkness and become more light. And I think, gosh, but
00:45:27
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throughout the dark though the dark is where seeds are planted deep into the earth you know and we talk about the dark mother a lot but those moments where we're in i was about to swear then i'm always pretty smart you know when we're we're deep in the shit you know when we're just like when it's just messy and horrible and ucky and just like the uncomfortableness i kind of feel it's like where it's because we're wearing like an outfit that's too tight
00:45:57
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That's why it's uncomfortable there. We need to strip that off. That's what we can do in that dark place. We're given the opportunity to strip away the clothes that are too tight so that we can be naked and raw and vulnerable, which is a beginning.
00:46:12
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going back to what I was saying before, it's a new file on that computer. And that feels scary and intimidating because there's nothing there and we don't know what's going to happen and what's going to come forth.

Primal Joy of Howling

00:46:22
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That's the moment of possibility and potential. That's the moment of creation. You know, creation comes from destruction, birth comes from rebirth.
00:46:28
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That's our moment. So I think that being in the cave is a city, but it's essential. I'd be scared of it. I just like the idea of being in a room and howling. That sounds so good. I've been to screaming circles where a bunch of us have just screamed his guts off. And it's like, imagine there's very similar to that. Yeah. And I think the howling, it brings forth a wild within us. It allows us to completely let go.
00:46:58
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Screaming is really powerful because it allows us to specifically access, you know, frustration and anger. Whereas I think howling, there's something in it that's very primitive.
00:47:09
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So when we howl, it's something I do encourage in my dances and my courses, you know, or just for the fun of it, you know, it's it just allows us to to feel wild, you know, to feel untamed. And that's kind of unique because we, you know, we are we are tamed so much by society, you know, by the expectations of others and ourselves to allow ourselves to just howl is really liberating.
00:47:32
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And I feel very opening for the throat chakra as well. It particularly works with the throat chakra to open it up. And there's things you can express in a howl that you can't express in words. You know, like I share in my wolf book about how there's like six different ways that a wolf will communicate. You know, that there's the howl. There's also the whimper and the growl. You know, we have all these different sounds, you know, for communicating just like the wolf as well. And I think the howl
00:48:01
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something that connects us deeply to our earth self, our primal self, you know, the woman who did used to run with the wolves, you know, in the past our ancestors, that you just can't get from another another sound. I always recommend people just try it because it feels good that if you've tried it, but it feels really good. It's like it makes like your skin tingle. I do it a lot at home, but like
00:48:23
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I have problems because there's a lot of dogs around me. I set the whole village off. I'll start howling and then a dog will talk back and then the next dog and then the next dog. They must be like, why are all the dogs howling? Rachel, she's off again.
00:48:42
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Dalmatians at the end when they're not up. Exactly, but again that's like you know try that with humans as well and there's something like if you howl in front of a human they want to howl with you there's something about it that connects us you know it's like we're a pack doing it together howling alone and with other people I think it's therapeutic you know and
00:49:04
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Maybe that's initially difficult because we come into a place of shame or embarrassment, you know, like, what do we sound like? I mean, who cares? Really? Does their opinion really matter more than the joy of howling? Who is that person that you're bothered about caring, you know? Just howl, you know? Well, listeners, your call to action this month is, I want you to howl.
00:49:29
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Oh, there we go. Amazing. This is even like, here's one I made earlier type job. Oh, my God. Yeah, I'm absolutely going to do that.

Podcast Wrap-Up and Call to Action

00:49:43
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It sounds.
00:49:44
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fabulous and honestly if you need permission get kids to do it with you because kids don't have the inhibitions like they will pop a go for it and they will give you permission if you need that you know they will show you what it is to to not care to not give a fuck you know just to enjoy your voice enjoy your body and enjoy what you can do
00:50:02
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My kids will love to howl and me and my kids are going to howl. I learn loads of my kids do all kinds of cool stuff. Yes, thank you for that, Rachel. Where can we find you? Do you want to give your website a plug? Yeah, of course. So you can find me at wolfwomanrising.com. I'm everywhere. So Instagram, it's wolfwomanrisingofficial.
00:50:20
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Someone bagsieged Wolfram and Rising. I don't know who she is. Oh, I know. Anyway, I'm sure she's lovely. Wolfram and Rising official. Facebook, it's Wolfram and Rising. Wolfram and Rising on YouTube as well. I don't do TikTok. I am a dancer.
00:50:36
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I find it bizarre, like copy people and like swing your arms in weird ways. I just, I don't get it, personally. Anyway, but I'm everywhere else. I don't do Twitter either because I don't, I don't tweet. So I love that, you know, people have podcasts. I think it's a really wonderful, wonderful thing to share in this way. I certainly celebrate it, but something super exciting is I publish a moon books. They are starting their own podcast. I don't even know if I'm allowed to tell you. Maybe this is a secret. You check it out before I produce.
00:51:06
Speaker
I'll give you a last go. I don't want to get in trouble. The first one's out in December. They're doing their own podcast with all of their authors. That is well cool. It's going to be amazing. It'll be hosted by Rachel Paterson, which you probably know. That's going to be super exciting. And their next guest, so. Oh, that's cool. I wrote about this recently on, you know, they make the online magazine Pings of the North. They're writing about when your podcast
00:51:33
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the internal healing is massive because you've got to hear yourself and edit yourself and then you notice how you speak and that your voice isn't so bad and then people are actually interested in what you've got to say and I started March and it's been like a massive growth since then. I sound all right, that's all right. Yeah, you're giving yourself permission and validating yourself, you know, which is what we need to offer ourselves. You say that, yeah, we are all right actually. I'll do. I'll do. I'll do.
00:52:03
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That was such good fun. I really enjoyed being the host on this episode. I hope you enjoyed it. Do give me a rating and review if you can. That'd be awesome. This is designed and produced by me, Wales, on Wavepad, Chedrin Zencaster. Music by Jeff Harvey of Pixabay. That's it from me. Stay magical, witches. See you next episode.