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461 — Chew It Forward
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Ty & Eric reflect on this week’s terrors, including bombing in Qatar. the unionization in Nepal, Charlie Kirk getting clipped, and whether it’s appropriate to eat Subway on 9/11. They also discuss Steve Miller Band, the persecution of podcast voices, getting fishy on a boat, and the charitable act of eating a footlong.
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Transcript
Introduction and Special Guest Appearance
00:00:50
Think Fresh
Hell yeah Dude we are vibing in here right now What a vibe
00:01:16
Think Fresh
Okay, we gotta get the episode going here. We're burning the midnight oil right now. That's right. We're burning my car battery. We're hanging out in the same car. How's it going, everybody?
9/11: Humor and Historical Context
00:01:26
Think Fresh
Yeah, what's going on? It's just...
00:01:28
Think Fresh
Your boys, Ty and Eric, and our special guest, Steve of the Steve Miller Band. That's right, baby. yeah Big old jet airliner crashed into the World Trade Center. Oh, wow. Yes, that's right. On this very day. Yesterday, Ty. This is recording on Thursday. yeah It's coming out tomorrow. That's right.
00:01:47
Think Fresh
So we should do a ah Ground Zero land acknowledgement, and as yesterday was the fateful day of the 11th of September. That's right. How many jet airliners did the Steve Miller Band fly into landmarks in the U.S. that day? It was three, right?
00:02:03
Think Fresh
I think so, yeah. There would have been a fourth? there would have been a i heard there was one destined for the White House that got intercepted. or That's right. They couldn't quite pull it off. But somehow, miraculously...
New 9/11 Footage: Authenticity and Memory
00:02:13
Think Fresh
um united 93 passengers who took over and stopped it from happening it shows the power you hold when you unionize is my takeaway but wow crazy hey um yeah every year during 9-11 i'm always surprised to see new different new photos new angles new angles get dropped every year Yeah, dude, it's actually unbelievable. New angles.
00:02:38
Think Fresh
I'm just waiting for the cockpit view. Yeah, that's the last one to see. Yeah, it's kind of wild because like it's not like everyone had phone cameras back then. People these are all just like camcorders. People are calling around.
00:02:50
Think Fresh
I recently saw one that was like shot in 4K just like whatever, like 10x zoom was like unbelievable footage. and It could have been AI, to be honest, but it just looked like so crispy and realistic. And I was really impressed.
00:03:05
Think Fresh
Yeah, i bet. That's quite, quite cool. Kind of like when, you know, anything happens these days, there's like 8k footage of it ah from many different angles.
00:03:16
Think Fresh
Yeah. RIP to
Political Violence: Assassination of Charlie Kirk
00:03:18
Think Fresh
the martyr. The martyr. Yeah. So we call it getting Kirk now. Damn, that was crazy, dude. That was insane. Yeah. Tell the branders what happened yesterday. They already know. Okay. But yeah. ah Commentator.
00:03:36
Think Fresh
Like ah podcast adjacent, you could say. IRL podcast. IRL podcaster Charlie Kirk got clipped. charlie clipped charlie clipped at at a i guess a university ah yeah it was a i guess a school shooting whoa yeah whoa um a targeted one though target and one assassination only one shot was fired dude yeah as far as i know it was a one shot for sure um and one death one shot one death 100 success rate yeah that was without a doubt that guy had a target on his front and back yeah
00:04:09
Think Fresh
I am I'm blown away that that happened, not because like he wasn't a hated guy that had some enemies like he definitely did, but just that ah political violence exists and that ah more of it doesn't exist, to be honest. That's the part that blows my mind is that this doesn't happen every week with just how much radicalization there is in the world.
Global Unrest and Social Media Impact
00:04:31
Think Fresh
Yeah, I mean, check out fucking Qatar, like yeah getting bombed. uh just the same day i think or the day before and um like that hat that's like normal that's a common place in the middle east it's like yeah political stuff happens what was that place uh there was a place think in don't know dude somewhere they like burned down the fucking parliament building oh yeah that's happening in nepal right now bro every time i refresh my instagram feed it's like a different tragedy loads and it makes me think like am i causing them by refreshing like is this causation or just correlation yeah fuck who knows who knows it's like i need to see more tragedy refresh refresh refresh yeah you're never more than like five swipes away from like some mass casualty yeah exactly um
00:05:21
Think Fresh
But yeah, like you got respect the Nepalese for standing on business. Oh, for sure. What the Nepalese are doing is ah crazy. Like pictures of their like whatever equivalent to parliament burning down looks so surreal. Yeah. like The entire thing is tourist.
00:05:38
Think Fresh
And they didn't stop there. They went to like every single politician's house and like ransacked and burned every single house. They're not afraid to burn the whole system down. That is fucking sick. It is crazy. Like once again, unionizing, you know, like, yeah, but who,
00:05:55
Think Fresh
Who says they're not hard workers, you know? Yeah, exactly. What I don't get with that move, though, it's like, okay, you burn down your entire, like, political system, but then, like, someone has to step up and, like, make a new one,
Dismantling Oppressive Structures
00:06:04
Think Fresh
you know? You're just, like, creating... Yeah, you're, like, dismantling an oppressive org, but you're also creating a lot of like, debt for yourself because now you don't even have the infrastructure for a new political organization. They they don't have a boardroom.
00:06:17
Think Fresh
Yeah, it's literally vanished down. Exactly. um Great point. I don't know where people are supposed to go from here, but... I guess it got to a point where nothing is better than this.
00:06:28
Think Fresh
You know what I mean? So it's like, whatever was enacted was so bad that I'm willing to just hit the undo button on everything.
Canadian Truck Driver Protests and Social Division
00:06:37
Think Fresh
I heard that they banned social media in Nepal. So you know if they did that here, like people would be on Parliament Hill.
00:06:44
Think Fresh
I don't think so, dude. think we're just too soft. Our society is passive, isn't it? Yeah, like we shout on the truck drivers so hard for standing up for everyone. Right. Like, dude, the truck drivers in Canada, bro, like um they were mostly mostly anti-vax, right? like in um Or like anti having to like stop working because you didn't get the vax.
00:07:05
Think Fresh
And like everyone kind of turned on them. It was like pretty divided. There was a divided moment. There was a they were in a way like a symbol of a divisive country.
00:07:16
Think Fresh
Yeah. And like maybe social media is just so unanimously unanimously love that we wouldn't have that divide everyone rally behind it but you never know man like everyone just wants to be contrarian too so you might just get like opposing views on no matter what happens totally i am who i am because of who i am not okay damn uh you're a tiktoker is what you're trying to tell me exactly a ah Yeah, if social media got banned here in North America, i probably wouldn't riot. I would probably passively accept it because I am a pacifist, you know? Yeah.
00:07:50
Think Fresh
I think you would plant some bricks outside just leave them there. Whatever happens, happens, but bricks are there to be used. Yeah, that's a good point, actually. like you You don't have to deliver...
00:08:04
Think Fresh
deliver the punch you just have to set up the fist exactly ah and i don't know if i can throw up dude i can't even eat a footlong without getting a stomach ache these days you know like how am i supposed to how am i supposed to rally and rise up and whatnot yeah dude i don't i i won't always be there to clean up your mess ty i mean things like our job is not to burn down a capital our job eric as journalists and as commentators political pundits political yeah like uh Kirkists is to kirkketan
Charlie Kirk's Online Presence and Risks
00:08:37
Think Fresh
comment. Our job is commentary.
00:08:39
Think Fresh
You know, that is our muscle. That is our... We're here to yap. Yeah, that is our contribution to any cause, which is to give it a voice. Yeah. But, ah I mean, our guy Charlie was in a similar position and you got murked for it.
00:08:53
Think Fresh
Yeah, it makes you you realize you really got to be careful what you say online. You just got to be online only. Excusely online. You can say whatever the fuck you want as long as you're always online. Right. The problem was his personal brand was Omnichannel. You see? Him setting up for offline ah work was his... He RTO'd and it killed him. I think that's what happened. i Actually, it makes a good point because you can be an online hater and you can be an offline hater, but like both of them have to carry themselves differently. And if they overlap too much, you're going to You're gonna bring in some like radicalized people from either side. Yeah. He, would he, he like, um, what's it called?
00:09:28
Think Fresh
Like, well, he was, he kept that same energy when he was offline. Like he was like just a fucking antagonist. He was like at all times, like a, like a professional complainer. Yeah. He was never like, yo, yo, yo, I was just playing homie. Like in real life. He was like, nah, fuck you. No jester's privilege there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. yeah So got to respect it, but.
00:09:48
Think Fresh
there's a cost to that, I guess. Unfortunately. So and like, like i said, I mean, the cost shouldn't have to be your life, but sometimes, uh, I mean, he literally said like that.
00:10:01
Think Fresh
Well, the whole thing is like, He was like pro-gun, right? Right, right. And he understood that like being pro-gun meant a few people dying from gun deaths every year. So he yeah he really lived his raps. I guess so.
00:10:13
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude, he's chilling with pop smoke right now. Yeah, that's crazy. Both got popped. That is crazy. Dude, we both saw the fucking close-up of that.
00:10:24
Think Fresh
Dude, I gotta stop watching videos of this kind of stuff online. It finds me though, and I can't resist. Dude, you're the one who's fucking swiping up and liking and commenting on it. So that's why it finds you.
00:10:36
Think Fresh
guess so. The algorithm thinks I'm into this. Yeah, and we are, to be fair. I mean, that was pretty wild, dude. like We saw like the front row perspective of him getting fucking...
Media Consumption and Memory of Tragedies
00:10:48
Think Fresh
throat blown off dude and the crazy thing is like we like i think i saw it happen within like two minutes of it happening like i think it was on my feed in under five minutes yeah it was in my eyes i mean if you're filming that you have a duty to post you do you like check this out i even know what you make the caption honestly mm-hmm it's an ai slop there's like an m dash in the caption yeah a 22 rifle is a standard issue in the military blah blah wow yeah i can't believe that that happened um yeah wild and then i can't believe it like happened so publicly you know is ah it was a it was a true public assassination yeah dude it's been a while since we've had one of those jfk style shootings yeah not to compare him to the goat yeah that's true um yeah dude like he just fucking like fell right over too he just like died and looked like instantly oh my god yeah it's traumatizing
00:11:46
Think Fresh
Yeah, it is. All I know is Think Fresh will not be doing any public appearances. We will never do a live podcast. It's not worth the rest. We want have the security team to do it, you know? Yeah. It's not because we can't sell slow out a venue.
00:11:57
Think Fresh
It's because we don't want to. Yeah, exactly. We choose not to. Yeah. I don't trust our security team to sweep the rooftops. They're just not, they're all interns. Yeah. And if we do, it'll be an indoor event and we'll be behind glass.
00:12:10
Think Fresh
Yeah. glass yeah We're going to outfit Eric's whip that we record in to be like the Pope mobile. Yeah. Whoever is, whoever's left from takeoffs fan base will will come after us after what we said about him.
00:12:22
Think Fresh
Yeah. We're still, uh, ah suffering from some online consequences from that that's right that's right damn so you know what a crazy week like on on the week of 9-11 we have so many tragedies unfolding globally yeah just another day in the news cycle yeah it's a lot to remember yeah lest we forget it's wild because like is 9-11 the last great thing that we'll remember yeah it's the whole slogan of 9-11 is never forget forget yeah but like
00:12:53
Think Fresh
I'm going to forget about this Qatar bombing pretty
Charlie Kirk's Conservative Impact
00:12:56
Think Fresh
soon. Yeah. And this whole Nepalese fiasco is absolutely like, i but I forgot about it until you brought it up and happened nary the other day. Yeah, exactly.
00:13:06
Think Fresh
um I think we're in a post memory society, Eric. We don't need to remember. Yeah. With Snapchat memories. What's the point? With Snapchat memories, you know, you can like pull up any information on your, your, your meta Ray-Bans instantly.
00:13:22
Think Fresh
Just ask Brock what, what happened last week? You know, like you literally, you don't need to ah allocate any brain space anymore to anything. Like just soak up the slop, drink the beer, you know, like yeah watch the summer I turned pretty.
00:13:39
Think Fresh
if eat a foot long, consume, consume, consume, and don't really even retain, retain, retain, you know? Yeah. Yeah. In the words of Charlie, I am a capitalist.
00:13:51
Think Fresh
Exactly. I'm going to consume. Um, listen to this podcast over and over again. This is a healing podcast. We're all here gathered today. We're here to heal. To, to remember, to not forget, to acknowledge and to heal. Yeah, dude.
00:14:07
Think Fresh
And to offer up a group prayer. Yeah. Um, Thoughts, prayers, yaps, and giggles. it's in all of it. Yeah, anyways, what what do we... Okay, actually, one last thing.
00:14:19
Think Fresh
Trump is going to give him... i don't know if this AI clickbait slop, but apparently I saw that he's going to give him a posthumous Medal of Honor. Whoa. Yeah. ah and An honorable discharge, I guess.
00:14:35
Think Fresh
Yeah. So, that's cool. I guess, like, that's one way to honor somebody is... afterwards that's how all the great artists get on her too you know like michelangelo lived poor yeah for sure i um damn comparing him to michelangelo is so wild um but uh was gonna say was gonna say that i don't know eric uh he's getting uh some post post hunger post hunger medal of appetite yeah um yeah the thing is like up until
00:15:08
Think Fresh
yesterday i thought he was just a like instagram real tick tock and uh youtube and motherfucker yeah just like a clickbait guy just like a guy who says wild shit and then everyone comments like fuck you blah blah blah transphobic blah blah blah yeah and like he's a he's a pot stirrer yeah kitchen that's his job a guy who is like a master debater exactly and uh just kind of sits around and college campuses arguing with the liberal students and just creates content for that, which is low hanging fruit because all everyone at a college campus is uneducated because they haven't finished yet. Yeah. And they all chose to be there, which is dumbest move ever. Yeah, exactly. The least educated people there, especially in the States paying hundred grand to do an arts gotta be stupid.
00:15:58
Think Fresh
Start a podcast. Yeah. Bozo. I'm a sandwich artist. You don't need the four year arts degree. Exactly. You're going to end up there anyways. Yeah. make sure you buy our think fresh culinary arts t-shirt that's such a cool still available yeah thanks a bit of stock left you had some uh feedback for that design and i just chose to not implement any of it and publish it yeah that's fine that's how this podcast usually goes for sure but um yeah thought he was just one of these like youtube fucking uh content farming dickheads but hearing like how much notoriety he's gotten and like
00:16:31
Think Fresh
everyone on my feed is talking about him uh trump apparently is tweeting he's about his death trump fucking announced his death but yeah that's crazy
9/11 Etiquette: Respectful or Disrespectful Activities?
00:16:40
Think Fresh
i guess he helped trump in a lot of ways like especially in the digital space yeah like why was he so uh regarded yeah in conservative circles i think he was uh represented at a lot of their values and gave them a voice in the same way that We represent the voice of the, I guess, like the hungry.
00:17:03
Think Fresh
just And we don't mean the ambitious folks. We're talking about actual hungry. It's 1130 a.m. You're clocking out of your day job and you' are hit you're hitting way. That's right. You're packing up the bands.
00:17:16
Think Fresh
You're folding up the gloves. You're hitting the sandwich. for a a late
Supporting First Responders Through Businesses
00:17:22
Think Fresh
snack yeah exactly yeah so uh i think that's just why you know like people see a piece of themselves in him and people take a bite of a piece of us when they listen yeah i guess so yeah i don't know it's kind of wild dude was a wild week lots to lots to chew on um okay so something i was thinking about the other day though with this whole 9-11 thing is that like i feel like there's like an air like an aura of like should i shouldn't i on 9-11 like
00:17:49
Think Fresh
Is there like activities or like habits I should break during 9-11? Like obviously like maybe it's a cheap day to fly, but maybe not a good day to fly. Even just out of like respect for the event.
00:18:01
Think Fresh
Like I was thinking, I'm like, it feels kind of weird to like go eat a subway sandwich on 9-11, but I don't really know why. Like there's something about, I just was like, was that disrespectful? Why would it be disrespectful? just feels disrespectful for some reason to like enjoy a footlong mean on such a tragic day. To take down...
00:18:19
Think Fresh
a flying missile to the head yeah dude like flying object take down ah the tower of thai take down that tower of food on such a uh yeah iconic i don't know there's something feels off about it like well as we know subway is um the ideal dining spot for all of our first responders right like firemen police ambulance um what are they called the ambulance people paramedics paramedics No disrespect. Shout out to all of our first responders. Yeah, so we forgot your name.
00:18:52
Think Fresh
We're just podcasters. We have nothing. So, like, if we're supporting somebody who supports them, i think by osmosis, we're kind of supporting the cause, you know? Right. It's trickle-down sandwichnomics.
00:19:05
Think Fresh
You know, like, the more we eat... the more they can charge less they can charge less because of economies of scale, which means we're actually, by us eating a footlong, we're giving our frontline workers a discount on their footlongs.
Crime and Surveillance in Modern Times
00:19:19
Think Fresh
Eat an inch and give an inch. Exactly, Eric. You totally get it.
00:19:22
Think Fresh
And I never really thought about that. like Support the places that support the people that you want to support. Totally. Wow. We're doing our part, dude. We're not just journalists. We're also charitable mouths.
00:19:35
Think Fresh
Yeah, absolutely, man. Wow. Oh, fuck. And it feels good to do the right thing. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I think so, too. Yeah. It feels really good. feels That's why I always get a foot long, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:19:47
Think Fresh
costs a little more, but it's going to a good cause. Yeah. um Yeah. We're all part of one big system, Eric. We're just a cog in the in the robot.
00:19:57
Think Fresh
Yeah, just a circuit board in the toaster. Yeah. I saw recently on the news that there was... I think it was Mexico. They launched a AI powered dog with like a machine gun strapped to it to ah to fight the cartels or or something like that.
00:20:15
Think Fresh
i don't know if it was actually Mexico. It might have been somewhere else. Yo, that's insane. Have you seen those things? It's like the Boston Dynamics, the BMT dog, whatever fuck it's called. yeah It's like that like platform, but there's literally a fucking machine gun strapped to its back.
00:20:31
Think Fresh
I mean, like we all saw this coming, right? As soon as we saw the the Boston petroleum pooch, we're like, they're going to put a weapon on that thing and it's going to kill everyone. 100%. There's a Black Mirror episode where that exact thing happens.
00:20:46
Think Fresh
I believe there is. Yeah. There's a robot dog that's like chasing someone for the entire episode. It's just like shooting at it. That's crazy. Yeah. And that's going to be like, imagine it's like your first year in the cartel. You just got on boarded. You're like,
00:20:58
Think Fresh
Just got initiated. You just got initiated. You signed the contract or whatever. It's great signing bonus. You're going get a ton of Coke. And then you're just like get gunned down by a robo dog immediately. Like that sucks. That's a shitty start to the career.
00:21:11
Think Fresh
Yeah. That fucking sucks. do Yeah.
Tech Misconceptions and Humor
00:21:13
Think Fresh
damn They should put that in the onboarding package to avoid those. But, oh man. Yeah. Honestly, it's never been a riskier time to be a member of a gang. i feel like the war on gangs is getting a little bit crazier.
00:21:28
Think Fresh
Yeah. yeah it's um with technology and um all this like surveillance equipment that everyone has in their pocket it's uh impossible to commit any crimes really i know like how do you do anything if someone wants to find a crime they've committed they will find it we're all criminals it's just a matter of uncovering the truth yeah there's an inverse relationship with crime committing uh and like getting away with it and like private investigator linkedin community it's like they're just fucking it's booming over there like they're able to fucking find everything because you're probably posting about it oh yeah you got it everyone's got like the digital breadcrumb so you block somebody and then suddenly like username one two three four five is looking at your story it's like you're never safe yeah dude why did an anonymous viewer look at my linkedin profile yeah exactly
00:22:19
Think Fresh
It's a bit of a tough situation because they didn't tell us that would happen when they made the internet. They didn't say like, oh, we're going to use it against you later. I didn't i didn't realize that when I was posting to my Facebook wall in 2010. Dude, yeah. We were so stupid back then.
AI Robotic Dogs with Weapons
00:22:34
Think Fresh
I was also watching like a David Letterman show episode from like 2001 or something or maybe even the and Bill Gates was on and he was saying like, oh yeah, dude, like with the internet, you can just kind of listen to sports whenever you want.
00:22:51
Think Fresh
And he's like, he's like, bro, it's called the radio. and Huge applause from the crowd. It's like, this dumbass Bill Gates doesn't know what the radio is. video Yeah. And then he gave another example of like, um,
00:23:03
Think Fresh
It's like, oh, yeah, but you can just, like, stream it or something. Everyone's like, oh, fuck you, Bill Gates. It's just like, damn, we didn't know what was coming. we were we would have robo dogs 2025 shooting us down. Yeah, imagine you're in that audience a decade ago laughing at Bill Gates for that.
00:23:21
Think Fresh
reinventing sports broadcasting. And then 10, you probably weren't thinking 10 years later, you were going to get shot down in the street by a Microsoft robo dog. but Yeah. Bill Gates had a chip on his shoulder. Or should I say a treat on his nose? Oh, nice. The co-pilot pooch is, uh, got no leash.
00:23:41
Think Fresh
Yeah, that's right. Oh, wow. Well, uh, can't teach an old dog new tricks, but you can upgrade their firmware. That's right. Man, die we're a it's a nice day today, but we're running the time to get on a boat this summer.
00:23:56
Think Fresh
But like, I don't think it's going to happen, Ty. It's going to be another boatless summer, even though, even though Ty and both have our pleasure craft licenses.
Missed Opportunities: Boating and Fishing Plans
00:24:02
Think Fresh
I know, another summer of all hoes, no boats. That sucks. Yeah, fuck. So I don't know. What do we do now?
00:24:10
Think Fresh
jeez. Well, I mean, we could go for, kind of want get into fishing. I know you've been a little, little, little rod and cunt curious. um Rod and reel.
00:24:21
Think Fresh
I love reel. So I thought it makes the most sense. Yeah. um when you found out you could reel them in yeah that kind of perked your interest didn't it yeah it did and and like i think if it's like caught on the line i would could uh stomach that you know yeah break a little vegetarian principle there if you're the one doing it then i think it's fine yeah i mean you get to choose your boundaries right you can choose you can do whatever the fuck you want ty no one's telling you otherwise so ace where i'm going with this is i think we should this winter this fall it's a little too cool to jump off a boat and go swimming but hey we could lay a prawn trap you know yeah yeah we totally lay a prawn trap down we a little lay a little crab trap yeah maybe maybe uh cast a line yeah dude you know cast a little line um mean i don't see an issue with getting on the boat having a few brews
00:25:11
Think Fresh
You'd be throwing up over over starboard. I would love to throw up starboard with you. That sounds like a wonderful day. Yeah.
Unicyclist Sighting and Episode Wrap-Up
00:25:19
Think Fresh
You take starboard, I'll take stern. Perfect, yeah.
00:25:23
Think Fresh
yeah I don't know which ones those are. We we used the robo-dog help us with our tests. I don't want to... throw off this great conversation but there's a girl in a unicycle about to bike past us that's impressive that is so crazy you don't see that every day i saw that last weekend on the uh the grand fondo somebody unicycled from vancouver to whistler so you don't see it every day but you see it every week that's what you're saying yeah i've seen it once a week so far that's a wild yeah um yeah pretty crazy that is pretty crazy uh breadheads thanks for listening yeah this has been fun thank you for tuning in and we'll catch you later ciao