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454 — Oil Down Economics
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Ty & Eric discuss robots replacing sandwich artists, slurping ramen while driving, avoiding the radioactive Walmart shrimp cocktail, how your sandwich artist’s pace affects their output, whether trillionaire oligarchs are generous, a first-hand review of the best Subway in Canada, getting gassed with too much yellow mustard, and the ideal number of beers to drink.
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Transcript
Humanizing Robots: Irony and Language
00:00:51
Think Fresh
Beep boop, beep boop, beep boop, recording in progress.
00:00:55
Ty Fresh
Oh no.
00:00:56
Think Fresh
How are you doing, Ty?
00:00:58
Ty Fresh
My my hosts co-host has become a clanker.
00:01:02
Think Fresh
Fucking clankers.
00:01:04
Ty Fresh
Clanker. ah How do we feel about all this robot hate, Eric? People are inventing these silly words for robots to try to dehumanize them, ironically. which But they're actually just humanizing them more by giving them like descriptors like this.
00:01:20
Think Fresh
Right racism is a human experience, and so, if we put that on to robots were inherently humanizing them.
00:01:27
Ty Fresh
Yeah, exactly.
AI and Society: From Grief to Excitement
00:01:28
Think Fresh
Mm
00:01:29
Ty Fresh
um It's the kind of the, I think it's a part of the process of just what the seven stages of grief of accepting that robots are you going to become sentient and then they're going to make our sandwiches and they're going to become our situationships and they're going to lead our government.
00:01:42
Think Fresh
hmm.
00:01:47
Think Fresh
Ty, I personally cannot wait for the... is it called when AI becomes smarter than us?
00:01:55
Ty Fresh
o AGI.
00:01:57
Think Fresh
There's a term for it.
00:01:59
Ty Fresh
Yeah, yeah. It's like ah the singularity or something.
00:02:02
Think Fresh
Singularity, that's right.
00:02:03
Ty Fresh
Yeah, yeah.
00:02:03
Think Fresh
i knew you would be the right guy, dude. You're heavily you're you're the right guy because you're you're bullish on fart coin.
00:02:05
Ty Fresh
hate that I'm the right guy.
00:02:11
Think Fresh
um But nonetheless...
00:02:13
Ty Fresh
I'm sharding the bed with fart coin right now. Never follow my investment advice.
00:02:18
Think Fresh
Damn man, SharkCoin wasn't the right investment. Are you really? Are you sure Anyways, Ty, I'm happy for the singularity. i think it's gonna be awesome, dude. I think it's me so good when all of the annoying jobs are replaced.
00:02:33
Think Fresh
No more talking to baristas.
Consumerism: Tech and Humor
00:02:36
Think Fresh
No more, how's your day going so far from the Cactus Club server? you know i mean? Like all this stuff where I want to limit human interaction is going to be gone completely.
00:02:45
Think Fresh
And maybe we'll have... Universal basic income.
00:02:50
Ty Fresh
Whoa, you're dreaming really big right now. But let's let's before we get into UBI, i let's talk a little bit and BMI and all that shit.
00:03:02
Ty Fresh
Let's talk a little bit about how you want to delete small talk from every situation, Eric. And like, I agree with you on the surface. That seems like a great idea.
00:03:13
Ty Fresh
But isn't that what the tech overlords want? They want to reduce you to just the ah a frictionless consumer, just capable of buying any intrusive thought on a moment's notice without a single thing
Spending Mindsets: Investments vs Luxuries
00:03:29
Ty Fresh
stopping you. So you could just become like fat blubber on a couch, scrolling your Apple Vision, blink twice to check out with Iris Pay. Yeah.
00:03:39
Ty Fresh
Like, that's all they want. That's all Mark Zucks wants you to be is just a ah ah meat sack that consumes.
00:03:47
Think Fresh
believe it or not, but I am a self-proclaimed consumerist. I love consuming Content, buying shit, um spending money.
00:03:58
Think Fresh
Do you know about that, Ty?
00:03:58
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:04:01
Think Fresh
i don't
00:04:01
Ty Fresh
I...
00:04:01
Think Fresh
i don't invest into fart coin, Ty. I blow my hard-earned cash on like small but expensive upgrades to my bicycle. you know Stuff like that. Things I don't need.
00:04:11
Ty Fresh
yeah Yeah, I get that. No, you're actually really, you're the best person that I know at spending money because you don't let money, you don't drip it away on stupid shit.
00:04:17
Think Fresh
Thanks.
00:04:21
Ty Fresh
And then you'll like make a ah ah purchase. Other people would be like, that's irrational. You'll buy like the row flip flops, you know?
00:04:28
Think Fresh
I'll buy the row flip-flops, but then I won't wear like anything else for like five years.
00:04:28
Ty Fresh
And then you're like. hmm.
00:04:32
Think Fresh
So who's the idiot now?
00:04:35
Ty Fresh
I guess so. But I kind of admire that because like I spend so much money on random shit, like not just shit coin, but like I'll buy like a bad coffee for $6 just because I just felt like I needed a coffee and i'm I'm fine with second wave where you are a bit more like ah reserved.
00:04:43
Think Fresh
I haven't heard of that one.
00:04:55
Ty Fresh
You're like, i I'm not going to buy a bad coffee. I'd rather just not have one. You know, you you don't give into your urges like that.
Time Theft and Work Humor
00:05:02
Ty Fresh
Or like, I will spend a lot of money on a novelty just for the experience of it.
00:05:02
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:05:06
Ty Fresh
And that's gone in an instant when I really should just invest in the things I actually like.
00:05:12
Think Fresh
I think it was like a couple of weeks ago, Ty, you told me you can pay a guy on Craigslist $50 to do literally anything. And that's what I found out that maybe you're onto something. You may be actually better at spending money than I am. Cause you're just like, i think this is what all CEOs do. They just pay somebody to make their life.
00:05:33
Think Fresh
easier and to like save them like 15 seconds you know it's like if i can just like e-transfer you money and you do the task for me like isn't that is that you're kind of getting ahead in life you're buying time the only thing that can't be bought
00:05:37
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:05:47
Ty Fresh
It's true. he But you, that is the hack is you buy other, you steal other people's time. It's time theft. It's pretty funny though.
00:05:56
Think Fresh
woa
00:05:56
Ty Fresh
It's like, you can have more time in your life. Just take other people's. That's how it works. You know, it'd be a lot slower for me to make a sandwich at home. So I'm going to take this sandwich artist, what's little, little life they have.
00:06:10
Ty Fresh
And they're going to give some of it to me slap some cheese on some slices of bread.
00:06:12
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's right. I mean, all sandwich artists are on borrowed time, if you think about it, because they moved here from Bangladesh, India.
00:06:20
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:06:24
Think Fresh
yeah I mean, they could be living a very hard life back in their home countries and probably die 20 years earlier because of pollution. But we are giving them our clean British Columbian air so that they can live longer, they can give us back that 20 years to make us sandwiches.
00:06:43
Ty Fresh
That's really interesting, it's pretty, ah pretty interesting thought, thought you have there, Eric.
00:06:43
Think Fresh
Pretty even exchange.
00:06:51
Ty Fresh
I followed it along almost perfectly. um But I will say that like the sandwich artists regarding this of their place of origin is giving us their life because they're doing one of the world's most dangerous jobs and they're exposing themselves to harsh chemicals like the carcinogenic bread and deli meat.
00:07:10
Ty Fresh
and the you know there's some isotopes in that toaster oven there's no way that shit ain't radioactive like that sandwich comes out is glowing neon green for a few seconds and they are first they're touching it like i'm afraid to touch a warm receipt and they're just going like thin plastic glove is all that's protecting them from that toaster oven like dangerous job
00:07:16
Think Fresh
Oh hell no dude.
00:07:30
Think Fresh
Yeah, Subway is the first to pioneer the uranium powered toaster. um
00:07:35
Ty Fresh
mm-hmm
00:07:36
Think Fresh
Sandwiches become green, but hey, it's just one side effect. You know i mean For the greater good.
00:07:41
Ty Fresh
They're like, Subway, you know they're gonna advertise it as like, we're the only fast food restaurant where you can eat your greens. You know?
Singularity and Job Automation Revisited
00:07:51
Ty Fresh
We're so healthy, it's so fresh, because it's so fresh it's green.
00:07:55
Think Fresh
The rainbow diet at Subway looks a lot different. you know i mean they got the when When are they to drop the shamrock shake? That's the only green I'm looking to consume.
00:08:03
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Dude, Subway be like, our bread is so fresh, it has a youthful glow.
00:08:11
Think Fresh
it You'll light up the room.
00:08:14
Ty Fresh
uh,
00:08:16
Think Fresh
Wild, dude. um What were we talking about?
00:08:20
Ty Fresh
I think that like we're talking about the singularity to bring it all back and how like ah we got all of these jobs that are going to taken over by the bots.
00:08:24
Think Fresh
Oh, yes.
00:08:32
Ty Fresh
And there's people that are just going through the seven stages of grief with the bots. And that's why they're coming up with names for them, Eric.
College Drinking Games: The Borg Challenge
00:08:39
Ty Fresh
That's why they're calling them clinkers. That's so I heard one that was um ah there's organic and Borgannic, which I think is pretty funny.
00:08:50
Think Fresh
Borg? What does that even mean? Borg?
00:08:53
Ty Fresh
I don't know. Borg is like robot words, you know? No, Borg is that drink that kids die from in college.
00:08:56
Think Fresh
Oh, I see.
00:09:00
Ty Fresh
Remember Borg?
00:09:02
Think Fresh
no awful what? You mean 4Loco?
00:09:04
Ty Fresh
B-O-R-G. Blackout Rage Drink.
00:09:09
Think Fresh
the fuck?
00:09:09
Ty Fresh
Or Blackout Rage Gallon.
00:09:10
Think Fresh
never... Holy shit, I've never heard of this.
00:09:11
Ty Fresh
No, we talked about this on an episode like a year ago. um It's a four liter milk jug and you fill it up with like 50% vodka, 50% energy drink or Gatorade or some shit.
00:09:23
Think Fresh
Holy shit.
00:09:23
Ty Fresh
and then you just And then you just try to drink it before the end of the night. But most people die trying.
00:09:27
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. So ah just a lethal goon bag is what you're saying.
00:09:33
Ty Fresh
Consider it like the the goon bin, the goon bucket.
00:09:37
Think Fresh
The goon jug.
00:09:38
Ty Fresh
we yeah Amateur gooners use the goon big, but this is this is a pro goon.
00:09:44
Think Fresh
Oh, I see. So the anti-goon is the beer we had at Dagrab Brewing.
00:09:51
Ty Fresh
who
00:09:51
Think Fresh
But the pro-gooner is the guy who fills up a jug with vodka and And I'm going to say monster, white monster, because Gatorade feels like it would neutralize the effects.
00:10:00
Ty Fresh
I think so.
00:10:02
Think Fresh
Like, you would be like better off after drinking that whole thing, you know?
00:10:07
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's got to be monster because you are what you drink.
00:10:10
Think Fresh
Hell yeah, dude.
Robots, Jobs, and Wealth Distribution
00:10:12
Ty Fresh
Yeah, so I'm sure there's a few Borg enjoyers listening right now.
00:10:12
Think Fresh
Gooning monster.
00:10:17
Ty Fresh
Shout out to you. You are on borrowed time, my friend.
00:10:22
Think Fresh
Yeah, I mean... I can't see a downside, Ty, for robots taking all of the jobs that we don't want to do. Like, sure, we might need jobs for those who are, don't know, just starting out in order to take, like high school kids, right?
00:10:39
Think Fresh
We need some teenagers to stock the produce at the grocery store. You know, we don't want grownups doing that. That's beneath them. They should be using their brain. Yeah.
00:10:50
Ty Fresh
Right. But do you think like when these billionaires that make the robots, you I'm talking like a trillionaires by this point, like your Peter Thiel, your Elon Musk types, are they really going to advocate for giving their all that money back to the people now that they've taken their jobs and their income? Are they just going to hoard it and then change the rules so that they keep it forever?
00:11:12
Think Fresh
Well, Ty, let me explain to you how the world works.
00:11:15
Ty Fresh
Yeah, please.
00:11:16
Think Fresh
So the rich billionaires, what they do is they send some of that money to the politicians and the politicians make all the rules, right? Mostly for the billionaires in their favor.
00:11:29
Think Fresh
um But the politicians are be so rich and the government's to rich that we're going to be able to afford to just pay everyone a base salary of, let's say, fifty k a year.
00:11:41
Think Fresh
And then that way everyone can live. um But I think the billionaires will still be up on top. They'll be net positive. do you think that's feasible?
00:11:48
Ty Fresh
It's okay if they're a little net positive. like I think everyone is advocating for them to, like, we don't don't give it all away. You guys can keep a lot of it. We're okay with that. like it's my late we're like
00:11:58
Think Fresh
Yeah, I'm okay with them keeping a lot of it.
00:12:01
Ty Fresh
like But the trickle-down economics, it needs to be more like a tinkle, you know? Or like it needs to be ah or more, a straight a full stream, you know? Stream it down.
00:12:12
Ty Fresh
Oil it down.
00:12:15
Think Fresh
God damn it.
00:12:15
Ty Fresh
we We needed a bit more viscosity here.
00:12:16
Think Fresh
was trying to think of a, who there's an R Kelly joke in there somewhere with like tinkle down economics.
00:12:26
Ty Fresh
No, I realize that's not enough. We need oil it down economics. They need to lube that up and they need to send the cash down, but they can still have a little, you know, that's fine.
Success, Wealth, and Life's Goals
00:12:36
Ty Fresh
I think we all want that.
00:12:36
Think Fresh
and
00:12:36
Ty Fresh
They they won.
00:12:39
Think Fresh
I think there should be a clear reward structure for winning at life, you know? Like if you are, if you become the smartest, richest guy, like you should be, you should be able to maintain that richness.
00:12:53
Think Fresh
Thoughts?
00:12:53
Ty Fresh
who I agree. And that is the ultimate goal of Think Fresh Podcast. Become the smartest, coolest, richest guys.
00:12:59
Think Fresh
Oh yeah.
00:13:02
Think Fresh
We're not doing it for any other reason.
00:13:06
Ty Fresh
ah
00:13:08
Ty Fresh
who
00:13:08
Think Fresh
Yeah. How do you think we're doing Ty? What's the quarterly report looking like?
00:13:14
Ty Fresh
ah World domination isn't great, but world... ah we're not It's not world dom, it's world sub for us, let's just say.
00:13:24
Think Fresh
Dude, yeah, 100%. Ty and I are calling in from very different locations today. Ty, you're in a car and I'm not. That's the that's the first.
00:13:37
Ty Fresh
Yeah, usually it's the inverse. You're the man on four wheels. So yeah, I'm in my car.
00:13:40
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:13:41
Ty Fresh
I'm in the driver's seat. I've peeled down the passenger seat, Eric, and I discovered a nifty trick. There is a table built into the back of my passenger seat, which works perfectly for eating a Happy Meal or setting up two MacBooks and a microphone.
00:14:01
Think Fresh
It's pretty amazing how the Toyota Matrix shares this feature with a $300,000 Mercedes Maybach.
00:14:10
Ty Fresh
Yeah, the the only difference is the Maybach has like a cup holder designed for a martini.
00:14:15
Think Fresh
who It has little legs that clamp onto the stem of your wine glass to keep it from falling over and spilling on your La Mer pants.
The Subway Experience: Quality and Uniqueness
00:14:25
Ty Fresh
Yes, there's an invisible like a cover that if you pull back reveals an ice bucket to put the champagne
00:14:33
Think Fresh
Uh, see the thing is like dudes with trucks have all the same functionality, you know, like they got the cooler in the, in the trunk. Um, they got the, uh, I don't know, slip resistant rubber floor mats, spill resistant.
00:14:49
Think Fresh
Um, it's no problem.
00:14:50
Ty Fresh
Yeah, they got the La Flared cowboy pants.
00:14:53
Think Fresh
who You can put one of those planks of wood on your lap and that's your table. Pretty easy stuff.
00:15:01
Ty Fresh
I do feel like the TV dinner table needs a car redesign because there's so often I'm just like sitting somewhere in my vehicle. I want to eat something, but I don't have a place to put it all. I'm like sticking it in the cup holders. I'm sticking it on the dash.
00:15:15
Ty Fresh
It's sliding off. I just want to like pull a thing across my legs, function as ah like a perfectly sturdy table, and then just like eat right off that.
00:15:26
Think Fresh
I mean, how much closer do you want to get, Ty? You basically have that right now with your passenger seat folded down. Thinking back to our maybe on one of our last episodes where we talked about eating sushi while driving.
00:15:38
Think Fresh
Like I can't think of a better setup because i have to put it like on the actual seat, but then it's like real low.
00:15:39
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:15:44
Think Fresh
And, you know, I got to take my eyes off the road to grab a roll. But like, if you're just, you know, if it's in arm's reach kind of level with you, i think that's really, really nice.
00:15:50
Ty Fresh
who
00:15:56
Think Fresh
And I think you should experiment with that.
00:15:58
Ty Fresh
I think so too, because what happens, Eric, is the closer that the food can get to your mouth while driving, the different types of cuisines you unlock.
00:16:09
Ty Fresh
And like once you get like within chin distance of your mouth while driving, you unlock fluids. You get soups, you get stews, you get ah ramen noodles, you get like all these like traditionally dishes that you can never touch in vehicle.
00:16:26
Ty Fresh
But the minute you're chin distance away with those drinks and those foods, it's it. They're back on the menu.
00:16:33
Think Fresh
who No, absolutely, dude. You could eat with chopsticks in the car, and that's something that only pros can do. But I think that'd be really cool for you to try.
00:16:41
Ty Fresh
o
00:16:43
Think Fresh
Chopsticks, some ramen.
00:16:43
Ty Fresh
Yeah, dude. I said it last episode. Chopstick shift is what I said last episode. Yeah.
00:16:50
Think Fresh
How could I forget?
00:16:52
Ty Fresh
ah So ah what else is going on Big E?
00:16:56
Think Fresh
Well, Ty, um, not a whole lot, but fans of the show would remember that you recommended to me the best subway in Vancouver.
00:17:09
Think Fresh
And I called bullshit.
00:17:10
Ty Fresh
Hmm.
00:17:10
Think Fresh
die I was like, there was no way this small town has got a better subway than, i don't know, the big city. You mean? You expect the big city to have most resources for making sandwiches.
00:17:22
Think Fresh
They're probably cranking out more of them per day.
00:17:22
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:17:23
Think Fresh
They got more reps. um more fresh ingredients because they're running out quicker. But I was so wrong.
00:17:29
Ty Fresh
Yep, the circulation.
00:17:30
Think Fresh
Yeah. The sandwich economics, as I would call it, of scale. um But Ty, you were so right, dude. I went to the Horseshoe Bay Subway and I was the only one there.
00:17:41
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:17:45
Think Fresh
I ordered a six inch BMT, ran it through the garden and got two sauces. And it was the best sandwich I've ever had in my life.
00:17:56
Ty Fresh
Dude, it is so good there. I'm so glad you tried it and I wasn't bullshitting you. it's It's the best, sand that subway location is the best one in that maybe the entire country.
00:18:10
Think Fresh
No, I fully agree. i was skeptical because they have the new branding inside. You know, they don't have that old world charm. um
00:18:16
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:18:17
Think Fresh
And somebody was stocking the chips while I was ordering, which was super distracting for me. But once I got my sandwich and I rode my bike down to the water and ate it on a little bench, I was a happy young man.
00:18:22
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:18:29
Ty Fresh
Oh, I bet. I think I've like, okay, there's two things that make this Subway location exceptional. The first one you hinted at it, produce freshness. They just take the care to get like the tomato slices perfectly consistently thick.
00:18:45
Ty Fresh
Everything has got full of color. i don't know if they're sourcing their veggies from a market rather than Subway supplier. Maybe they've gone off off the brand guide in that regard.
00:18:56
Think Fresh
Yeah, who knows, dude. um Because like Horseshoe Bay, do you think where do you think they're getting your ingredients from? Like, is there a mainland like distributor?
00:19:09
Think Fresh
Because I wonder if it's coming directly from the island. They got first dibs, you know, they're the first stop on the on the truck.
00:19:14
Ty Fresh
i was gonna say like they're right on the coast so you know you're they're getting the freshest fish they're getting the freshest veggies too as they're all being imported to the like arctic shield of canada then yeah
00:19:20
Think Fresh
Mm
00:19:23
Think Fresh
hmm.
00:19:27
Think Fresh
and for um i was gonna say like for those who are uninitiated horseshoe bay is the ferry terminal here in vancouver that connects you to vancouver island and parts of the sunshine coast is that accurate you're you're like a frequent flyer with them
00:19:45
Ty Fresh
Yeah, they call me first mate when I get on board. ah More or less, Eric.
00:19:50
Think Fresh
well captain my captain
00:19:52
Ty Fresh
Yes, it's ah the largest ferry network in all of Canada to connect Canadians to rural communities along the coastline.
00:20:01
Think Fresh
Wow.
00:20:02
Ty Fresh
Very cool. the The thing, though,
00:20:04
Think Fresh
That is cool. I knew you would know something about it.
00:20:06
Ty Fresh
When you're trying to catch a ferry, what you need is time because you're always in a rush. They're leaving, they're coming, the salines are taking off. So everyone's always in a hurry. And that's what's so ironic about this location is they operate very slowly.
00:20:20
Ty Fresh
But that is also the reason why i think they're so good because that pace, Eric, not only does it ensure they put the care into cutting those tomatoes and the care into slicing those deli meats, but when you walk in there,
00:20:33
Ty Fresh
and it's empty, and they're just there to give you that one-on-one personal experience, it's not unlike entering Hermes store, you know and you're assigned an associate to guide you through the process.
00:20:44
Ty Fresh
I wouldn't be surprised if they wanted to emboss the bread with your initials at the very end of it. you know You're getting something personal.
00:20:54
Think Fresh
no for sure um that's one thing i really noticed like they were excruciatingly slow compared to like most sandwich experiences i've had um but to you know my surprise like it turned out to be a way better product um This lady was gay. Like we got sandwiches on Friday.
00:21:17
Think Fresh
i went subway twice in three days, which is sad. Um, but we went on Friday and she like just glob the Mayo all over both of our sandwiches.
00:21:29
Think Fresh
She was heavy on the Mayo.
00:21:29
Ty Fresh
who
00:21:31
Think Fresh
Um, this girl very heavy on the mustard dye. And I gotta say it was really spicy.
00:21:39
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:21:39
Think Fresh
Um, But she did, without even me prompting her, she tried to scrape some off. That's how much mustard ended up on it. um
00:21:47
Ty Fresh
Wow. So she knew she she effed up.
00:21:48
Think Fresh
Yeah. who She kind of like did the same technique as ah over the other location to grab the knife, kind of pick some up, did a little scoop with the knife and threw the knife away.
00:22:03
Think Fresh
Pretty cool stuff.
00:22:04
Ty Fresh
Okay. I think the move here, though, is actually to like either use a cucumber to scrape it because you can do more of a scooping gesture.
00:22:12
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:22:13
Ty Fresh
Or is there like a vegetable you could grab that would just absorb it? like Another piece of bread would be good because you could soak it up.
00:22:19
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. You can just dab it.
00:22:22
Ty Fresh
Exactly. Sponge bath it.
00:22:26
Think Fresh
Yeah. Or just remove the underlying vegetable entirely and reapply it. Like, if you're squirting the mustard on the tomato, just pick up the tomato and throw it away. Undo.
00:22:36
Ty Fresh
Right. undo Undo a couple, undo, undo few command Zs until you the spinach disappears from your sandwich.
00:22:41
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's like when the autosave isn't like fast enough, so you have to undo like too much.
00:22:48
Ty Fresh
Yeah. Interesting. So you had too much mustard, which I think is a better scenario than too much mayo because mayo is a filler sauce. Mustard is like, like that's a statement sauce.
00:23:02
Think Fresh
Oh, I made a statement all right, Ty. I was licking my lips. I was like, my lips were vibrating the rest of the day. I had to drink um some milk, dude.
00:23:09
Ty Fresh
Oh, I bet. That's a lot of spice.
00:23:13
Think Fresh
Yeah, dude.
00:23:13
Ty Fresh
ah
00:23:13
Think Fresh
I felt like I was talking to Sean Evans on Hot Ones.
00:23:14
Ty Fresh
but Did you go classic yellow Dijon or honey mustard? Which which play?
00:23:21
Think Fresh
Only yellow mustard can offer that much radioactive punch.
00:23:26
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:23:27
Think Fresh
Oh, shit.
00:23:27
Ty Fresh
That's fair. It is actually, if you think about all sauces, mustard is the um most neon.
00:23:29
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:23:36
Ty Fresh
So it actually, if I had to guess one that was radioactive, it would be that one.
00:23:40
Think Fresh
I mean, after after that experience, I understand how somebody came up with the concept of mustard gas. They were like, what if we just took this ingredient, whatever the fuck it is, and killed people with it at scale?
00:23:47
Ty Fresh
Yeah, no kidding.
00:23:52
Ty Fresh
Put it in people's eyes.
00:23:52
Think Fresh
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:23:53
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:23:54
Think Fresh
yeah
00:23:54
Ty Fresh
Dude, all food has the capability of killing you. It's so funny when there's been a radioactive theme to this episode because I actually wanted to talk to you about how the FDA has just said, stop eating all of the Walmart shrimp in America.
Food Safety and Humor: Radioactive Shrimp
00:24:08
Ty Fresh
like hard stop. And they said somehow all the shrimp at Walmart got contaminated with some sort of... It's called cesium 137. It's in a radioactive isotope.
00:24:20
Ty Fresh
So you will actually become like the Hulk if you eat a bunch of Walmart shrimp.
00:24:21
Think Fresh
Oh shit.
00:24:26
Think Fresh
Whoa. Maybe they'll turn into shrimp man.
00:24:27
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:24:28
Think Fresh
know what mean? You'll just become, you are what you eat. And just like Spidey, know what mean? He got bit by a spider. Now he's Spider-Man. So you'll become shrimp man, Ty.
00:24:37
Ty Fresh
yeah
00:24:39
Think Fresh
What does that mean for us?
00:24:40
Ty Fresh
I'm so ah damn i I would rather eat anything but radioactive shrimp like shrimp man is the least cool possible superhero like shrimp man is like the DC villain
00:24:47
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:24:51
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:24:53
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. You just have terrible posture. That's your superpower. Oh,
00:24:58
Ty Fresh
yeah and like really long nose hair yeah thanks
00:25:03
Think Fresh
fuck. Well, one of us is already there.
00:25:07
Think Fresh
Statistically speaking, at least.
00:25:10
Ty Fresh
Well, so avoid that at all costs.
00:25:13
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:25:14
Ty Fresh
Or don't.
00:25:14
Think Fresh
Luckily, was already avoiding that at all costs. Yeah.
00:25:18
Ty Fresh
I know, when I read that, I was like, this this piece of news is for a very specific demographic book of people that I'm already not concerned with. Like, if they're eating the Walmart shrimp, they got other problems.
00:25:26
Think Fresh
no totally
00:25:29
Ty Fresh
The the carcinogenic agents in these like bottom feeders is not their biggest problem. Yeah.
00:25:35
Think Fresh
yeah dude when you feed bottom feeders to the bottom feeders it's just you know it's a circle of life um but dude i gotta say like do you think comes in the
00:25:42
Ty Fresh
It really is.
00:25:50
Think Fresh
kind of in the frozen section, there's like a big shrimp cocktail platter. Is this kind of what we're saying is contaminated? Because they're like, that looks real good. won't lie.
00:26:01
Think Fresh
The shrimp cocktail platter has like 200 shrimp
00:26:03
Ty Fresh
oh yeah. They make those things look real nice. Like that's a irresistible offering in the Walmart frozen section.
00:26:14
Think Fresh
in I've dabbled in those, unfortunately, Ty. So maybe I'm just a big-ass hypocrite because I've actually probably eaten the Walmart shrimp.
00:26:19
Ty Fresh
I,
00:26:24
Think Fresh
Have you?
00:26:25
Ty Fresh
I probably have two. I may not even know it. You know, like that seems like the kind of thing that like your broke friend's house party would get a couple of just for the house. I don't, I don't know.
00:26:37
Ty Fresh
I probably have Eric. I, it's hard to know.
00:26:41
Think Fresh
like the laziest.
00:26:42
Ty Fresh
It's honestly, it makes sense.
00:26:42
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:26:43
Ty Fresh
It's kind of the premium offering there because like you can't like it doesn't make sense that like a bottom class establishment like Walmart should be able to like serve apex predators on their menu.
00:26:56
Ty Fresh
Like they shouldn't actually like dabble in like higher quality meats or even like meats of any regard, pig, chicken, etc.
00:27:06
Think Fresh
no walmart shark fin soup you know too deadly
00:27:11
Ty Fresh
No, you're not getting that. You're not getting even some, I don't know, squid or octopi or eel. Nothing too exotic there.
00:27:21
Think Fresh
do appreciate how like the frozen shrimp cocktail is like like the laziest possible thing you can bring to a potluck so Like, I actually kind of how, like, whoever does that is, like, does not give a fuck.
00:27:35
Think Fresh
You know what mean? You show up to the function with just a platter. It's like, let that thaw out
Fishing and Leisure: Balancing Hobby and Fun
00:27:40
Think Fresh
for a while. Mm-hmm.
00:27:44
Ty Fresh
Yeah, it's like, because you're showing up with frozen food, you know? Like, if you showed up with, like, a frozen box of taquitos, people, or, like, spring rolls or some shit, people are, frozen pizza.
00:27:56
Ty Fresh
Imagine arriving with a frozen pizza at the party, and this is your contribution to the potluck. It's no different.
00:28:00
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. When you call ahead to the potluck, be like, yo, can you preheat the oven to 410? gotta throw these wings in there.
00:28:07
Ty Fresh
I'm bringing the casserole.
00:28:09
Think Fresh
Yeah. I mean, fair play, though.
00:28:10
Ty Fresh
It is kind of For some reason, the shrimp cocktail gets a hall pass. And I think it's because it has this novelty presentation.
00:28:20
Think Fresh
Presentation.
00:28:22
Ty Fresh
Exactly. You don't see anything that looks like that. So it's a feast for the eyes as much as the palate.
00:28:30
Think Fresh
I 100% agree, dude. It's all about how you, how many shrimp can you fit on a platter? what mean? It's like, they're just neck and neck, bumper to bumper, tail to tail, all the way around.
00:28:46
Think Fresh
It's truly a sight to behold. then you like, you get like a nice shrimp cocktail from like the sunset tower and there's four shrimp on it.
00:28:49
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:28:55
Think Fresh
And you're like, The Walmart one is half the price and the fucking shrimp on there. Hard to beat that.
00:29:04
Ty Fresh
Yeah. It doesn't make any sense because they came from the same ocean.
00:29:09
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Do you think like Walmart's just using smaller nets? You know, they're catching all the small shit.
00:29:17
Ty Fresh
Yeah, filter. Maybe they pull the big ones and they sell it to Sunset Tower at a premium, you know?
00:29:23
Think Fresh
yeah. Dude, I got to get my fishing game up. I got to like start hauling in some good seafood.
Beer Consumption: Enjoyment vs Consequences
00:29:31
Think Fresh
Like, I don't know. I'm absolutely dog shit at fishing.
00:29:35
Think Fresh
I got to get better.
00:29:37
Ty Fresh
It's a tough game. And it's a losing man's game because like best case scenario, you get a fish. Worst case scenario, you wasted your time. Either way, you wasted your time and then maybe you get a fish.
00:29:49
Think Fresh
hmm. That's the thing, Ty. There's like an uncanny valley with fishing that I'm like just kind of, I don't want to step foot in the valley yet. You know, I'm at the very beginning still.
00:30:02
Think Fresh
And the very beginning is like great for any hobby because you kind of like dabble and you just have like seven beers at like a lake. You know what I mean? It's like the sweet spot for any hobby.
00:30:15
Ty Fresh
well it's great there at that moment because it's actually not your hobby is just a consider it like a dlc pack on your existing hobby like your hobby is actually just drinking seven beers eric and then this adds like a fun twist you like downloaded a new map to drink seven beers at Right?
00:30:35
Think Fresh
That's actually great point.
00:30:36
Ty Fresh
And then you realize, oh, I actually like this more than the seven beers. And now you're stuck. Now you have a new hobby and you're not getting out.
00:30:43
Think Fresh
Luckily for me, Ty, that never, ever happens. I never like what I'm doing more than drinking seven beers. And I always will rather drink seven beers no matter where I am. know mean? It's just no, there's no question about that.
00:30:55
Ty Fresh
It's almost like you had the best hobby to begin with and nothing will ever trump it.
00:31:00
Think Fresh
When you are just A-B testing hobbies for the rest of your life and nothing will beat the control.
00:31:06
Ty Fresh
Exactly. But you know, you're going to keep trying. And if anything, everything just enhances the control.
00:31:13
Think Fresh
So maybe next week I'll try drinking and smoking.
00:31:18
Ty Fresh
Like every time we record this podcast, we both look at each other and we're like, why don't we have seven beers right now? That would make this way more fun.
00:31:27
Think Fresh
I mean, how many beers you think is the best amount of beers?
00:31:31
Ty Fresh
That's a great question. Every man's thought of this and every man has an answer. And I'm going to tell you my answer right now. I think it's four. Because
00:31:40
Think Fresh
Oh, okay. Tell me more.
00:31:42
Ty Fresh
at four beers, I'm like my best self. I still am in control myself, but I haven't, but not so much control that I am not having fun.
00:31:48
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:31:55
Ty Fresh
I'm just like that perfect wiggle room space.
00:31:56
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:31:59
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. You're just kind of floating through life.
00:32:00
Ty Fresh
You know, at four beers, yeah, at four beers, don't get me wrong, you are like feeling it. But like, if you need to, you can wait a couple hours and get yourself home. You can wait a couple hours and go do a job that you need to do.
00:32:10
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:32:14
Ty Fresh
You're like, in an instant, you can kind of turn your life back on. But at four beers, you can also ride that.
00:32:21
Think Fresh
I completely agree with you Ty I think four is the perfect sweet spot and I'll give you a couple more data points no hangover right four beers is like on the cusp like any more than that if you're pushing five six you might sleep in the next day you might be feeling it but with four you don't even need to drink water like you can just go to bed
00:32:42
Ty Fresh
No water, no food, just that can be your dinner. Four beers is an excellent dinner.
00:32:47
Think Fresh
totally and then Okay, so no hangover. You can also drive home. You can just, you know, put your thumbs up on the steering wheel and keep the road inside your thumbs and then you'll make it home.
00:32:58
Think Fresh
No problem.
00:33:00
Ty Fresh
No hangover, no difficulty getting home, and you get to enjoy all of the benefits that five or six beers would give you as well.
00:33:10
Think Fresh
Totally. There is definitely diminishing returns after four. Like, don't get me wrong, you're You're having more fun the more beers you have, but they come at a cost.
00:33:20
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:33:21
Think Fresh
Each one is more expensive to your health and your emotional well-being. You know what mean?
00:33:29
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:33:29
Think Fresh
And to your relationships and to your family. It's just like compounds negatively.
00:33:34
Ty Fresh
Totally. Like after 10 beers, like the likelihood of you destroying your relationship with your significant other goes up or maybe just losing your iPhone. You know, either way, the risks are high.
00:33:45
Think Fresh
two equally equally terrible things
00:33:50
Think Fresh
um yeah dude like 10 to 24 beers i'm having an incredible night like i just fucking buzzing dude the whole night i'm singing dancing on the table i am telling you know the first responder who's pumping my stomach to fuck off
00:34:08
Ty Fresh
Yeah, but here's the thing, Eric. Those at 10 to 24 beers that comes at market price and you don't know what the price you're paying is until after you've consumed them. You know, it's like the whole food salad bar.
00:34:20
Ty Fresh
You're paying at the counter, buddy. Like, sure, have as much as you want. Dig treat yourself. You're paying for it later. You don't know how much.
00:34:27
Think Fresh
totally yeah and you never want to ask how much like you don't want to embarrass yourself any of your date right you just gotta keep keep ordering more beers and then you slowly forget about how expensive it is and then does it really matter how much you paid
00:34:42
Ty Fresh
yeah it is kind of the intrusive thought of like am i gonna regret this the only way to make that go away is to drink more beers
00:34:51
Think Fresh
Yes, I have 100% agree.
Optimal Timing for Beer and Sandwich Consumption
00:34:54
Ty Fresh
positive feedback loop right there damn now i want to go drink seven beers four four four sorry you're right pulling back
00:35:00
Think Fresh
You mean four, Ty, four.
00:35:04
Think Fresh
mean, if we want to like be really, you know, due diligent here, are we saying four is better than seven?
00:35:13
Ty Fresh
I'm saying that like, it's all about like ROI here.
00:35:19
Ty Fresh
Return on IPA, inebriation, there we go.
00:35:22
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:35:26
Ty Fresh
And I think four has the best value for consumption. Seven is like, yeah, you drank almost twice as much, but I don't feel twice as good.
00:35:38
Think Fresh
Very, very good point. Very good point.
00:35:42
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm.
00:35:43
Think Fresh
So try, let's discuss maybe the perfect setting to consume four beers. Is it, On the road to party, perhaps, like in the backseat of a car?
00:35:56
Think Fresh
Is it next to a body of water? Is it on a boat? Is it in the park at 1 p.m. on a Thursday? When is the best time to consume four beers, in your opinion?
00:36:08
Ty Fresh
I think the best time to consume four beers is 11 a.m.
00:36:09
Think Fresh
Hmm.
00:36:11
Ty Fresh
on a Saturday. There's no better feeling than like cracking a beer before lunch and then being day drunk by 1 p.m. I love that.
00:36:21
Think Fresh
dude i did that on sunday had three pints of guinness on sunday i just slept from two to four p.m i woke up in a daze hungry looking for kind of food and um it was know i felt great though
00:36:38
Ty Fresh
that that's totally what happens right like you it's you you know after you get to beer two like oh the afternoon's a wash so if you fall asleep if you get like
00:36:53
Ty Fresh
You turn up, you go on adventure, or you just take a nap, spend the rest of the day just trying to find a Big Mac or a Poutine.
00:37:03
Ty Fresh
Doesn't matter. The point being, you have the whole day to waste if you're already four beers to eat by 1
00:37:11
Think Fresh
Yeah, when you start the day at like, start drinking at like noon, then you have so much time to fix your day with some food. But if you start getting shit-faced at like five, it's like, you're gonna sober up by 10 and you're like, what did I even do today?
00:37:28
Think Fresh
have no time to undo this, you know?
00:37:31
Ty Fresh
yeah yeah you can still make your day what you want powered by beer at noon but if you're powering your evening by beer then it's always the same story you know drink a bunch do something stupid wake up the next day you're filled regret you can make amends if you start at noon you have time time on your side is good
00:37:49
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Totally agree. But on the flip side, Ty, it's nice to decide early that today's going to be one of those days where you have four beers at lunch.
00:38:01
Think Fresh
And whatever happens after is a bonus. You know what mean? Like the day is perfect already. Anything I do later is just going to add to this feeling of pure bliss.
00:38:13
Ty Fresh
Totally. Because you already checked the only box that matters for that day. You know, it's like, wow, what a high. I will say, Eric, the worst number of beers you can drink is one beer.
00:38:28
Ty Fresh
Because when I drink one beer, it's like, oh, that was fun, but it didn't do anything for me. And now I just spent $7. No,
00:38:38
Think Fresh
Yeah, you just got to like a normal level, a normal operating level. Turns out normal isn't fun.
00:38:46
Ty Fresh
it's not. Like, one beer just makes me feel, like, a little bit, like, confused, but not enough to, like, be like, oh, I'm having a good time. Like, two beers minimum.
00:38:57
Think Fresh
yeah I think two beers is great it's a perfect like punctuation on the day you know like one you're totally right if I open the fridge and I see one beer I really have the conversation with myself I'm like do want to start this do I want to go down this path but I will say it kind depends on the type of beer like if it's a Guinness
00:39:04
Ty Fresh
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:39:20
Think Fresh
That's like one beer is like you're just drinking a glass of water, right? One beer of Fat Tug, it's kind of like two to three Coors Lights.
00:39:31
Think Fresh
So I'm kind of like doing the mental math in my head, especially if it comes in a tall boy, that kind of changes things as well. So I don't mind one beer if it's a strong one.
00:39:43
Ty Fresh
Yeah, that's a good point. I will make an exception for that, but it's still not my preference. My preference is four beers. If not that, then two beers. And if not that, then seven beers. I don't want three. I want five. don't want one. Four, two, seven.
00:39:54
Think Fresh
That's beautiful. Beautifully said. Can we apply this to sandwiches, Is there any correlation here? Six to me is like, usually I'm happy with six.
00:40:09
Think Fresh
Breaking news, guys. Like six inches and I'm like, I feel like I made a good decision.
00:40:11
Ty Fresh
Yeah.
00:40:15
Ty Fresh
Yeah, six is my two beers. It's like, that's enough. I'm satisfied. I'm feeling great. But you know I really want four, so give me the footlong.
00:40:23
Think Fresh
Mm-hmm. Every single time I have six inches or two beers, I need two more beers or six more inches.
00:40:30
Ty Fresh
Yeah. You're like, that was great, but double it.
00:40:33
Think Fresh
Yeah.
00:40:34
Ty Fresh
only way to make this better would be twice as much.
00:40:34
Think Fresh
Okay.
00:40:36
Ty Fresh
Yeah,
00:40:38
Think Fresh
Okay. Awesome. Now hit me again.
00:40:41
Ty Fresh
exactly. Run it back.
00:40:44
Think Fresh
right. Well, any other closing thoughts here, Ty? We've aligned that four beers is perfect. 12 inches.
00:40:54
Ty Fresh
I think, honestly,
00:40:54
Think Fresh
is maybe too much for me. I don't know. What you
00:40:58
Ty Fresh
don't think 12 inches is too much for anybody, Eric. I think more people need to find this stomach for it.
00:41:05
Think Fresh
think? Damn. Inspirational. Stay hungry.
00:41:07
Ty Fresh
hmm.
00:41:07
Think Fresh
All
00:41:08
Ty Fresh
Stay, keep, keep chewing.
00:41:13
Think Fresh
right, breadheads. That's all for today.
00:41:17
Ty Fresh
Thanks for listening. Ciao.