Podcast Introduction and Murdoch Focus
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Welcome to Fixate Today Gone Tomorrow. I'm Nikki and I'm here with my Aunt Joy. We are two neurodivergent ladies who obsess about various topics. Joy is autistic and I have ADHD and we are letting our hyper fixations fly.
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Today we are fixating on the Murdoch murders. Music
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Welcome back, everybody. We are on our third episode of the Murdoch saga. Yes. And every day there's more information coming out. So I think this is really relevant. I think there's so much we can add to the past podcasts and such. Yeah.
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Yeah, we're at we're on in like a whole different like side of it. A lot of the podcasts were coming out as it was happening and we're we're, you know, convictions have happened. There's appeals going on. There's new things coming out. It's wild.
Recap and Introduction to Mallory Beach
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yeah So last episode, we talked about Stephen Smith and Gloria Satterfield and how their deaths tied to the Murdoch family. Today, we're going to talk about the death of Mallory Beach.
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And Mallory Beach, just to... was Anthony's girlfriend, right? Yeah. ah Yeah. There's a lot of names, but we'll get to it. We only have we'll have to remember first names once we get into it, thankfully.
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um But all of the young women on board, yeah all their names started with M. So it's it's a little tricky. I even just looking through our notes before we started recording was like, oh, I put the wrong name here. And just to like, you know, in the end, Mallory Beach was the only person that lost her life. Yeah. That day. Yeah.
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So the sources we used for this episode are the Murdoch Murders, a Southern Scandal on Netflix. Murdoch Murders Podcast, NBC News affiliate WCBD-TV Charleston, Greenville News, Wikipedia, and the books Swamp Kings and the Devil at His Elbow. Okay, let's get into
Mallory Beach and the Gathering at Murdoch Island
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So Mallory Beach, um, was the girlfriend of one of Paul Murdoch's buddies, Anthony Cook, and they shared a kind of bigger friend group. But on February 23rd, 2019, the group of six that were hanging out were Paul Murdoch, his girlfriend, Morgan Doty, Connor Cook, Miley Altman, Anthony Cook, and his girlfriend Mallory Beach.
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They all arrived to meet up at Paul's house at 6.30pm to attend an oyster roast at a friend's home. They arrived at this friend's house between 7.30 and 8 o'clock.
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I think there's something important here when we talk about the meeting at Paul's house. Remember, the family had multiple houses. So where they met was actually ah on this, um like it was a ah home that had been in the family for many years, many generations.
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ah They called it Murdoch Island or they referred to it as Chichesse because it was on the Chichesse River. So it was closer out to Beaufort. and um And they met there largely because they wanted to take a boat to this party knowing that they would be drinking and knowing that police would be out on the roads.
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Another, so they took, you know, it it was, It was Paul's family's boat. Something i find really interesting is that the boat did not have running lines.
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lights or working running lights. this is a big deal. File that away in your mind because it, yeah, I think that comes up. yeah I think that's something really relevant. Also, years ago, something kind of similar happened.
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um and I mean, it was like, yeah, let's talk about that before we get too far into this. It was like in the 90s. I mean, it was a really long time ago, but another group had been drinking. I think this has um had to do with John Marvin and it is John Marvin, right?
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i don't, I have no idea. Hope it's John Marvin. And so he had encouraged some of the guests to, you know, take one of his boats instead, again, instead of getting in a car and driving on the roads because they had been drinking.
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So we have to remember these rivers that they're navigating are pretty treacherous. There's a lot of sandbars and downed trees. These rivers, like, and I must call them creeks. I don't know if, you know,
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They're between a creek and a river. They also change with the tides. So to navigate them, you really have to know them. So John Marvin kind of goes over, you know, here's the life ah here's the life jackets and, you know, talks to him about it.
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But he's not on the boat. He's just,
Underage Drinking and Oyster Roast Events
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it's just he his friends or whatever. This group of people are going. And they set out. Long story short, they got in an accident, which nobody, it wasn't fatal, but it left one of the passengers with severe brain damage. Oh, wow. And again, that night, the boat didn't have working running lights.
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Interesting, I think. Yeah, very interesting. So, yeah. So that was Chichessie. And that's where the yeah that's where the group of friends from the night, like where Paul's friends, that's where they were planning to sleep.
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Okay, gotcha. Let's also add, though, another reason why they were likely meeting at Paul's house first. Yes, to get the boat, but there was no alcohol at this oyster roast event.
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And... We know that the group was drinking. yeah So ah meeting up at a house to pregame doesn't seem unreasonable. Yeah. And we know, I think a lot of people probably have seen the video where Paul stopped at a service station and bought something there.
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um Also on the boat was some hard liquor that I think had been left on there. Yeah. The other members of this group also brought alcohol with them. So there was there's plenty of alcohol.
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Yes. So they went to this oyster roast and they left around 1130 p.m. And witnesses said that no one seemed intoxicated. I say that with a huge grain of salt.
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that seeming intoxicated and being intoxicated are a different thing. And I find it really difficult to believe that nobody was at least tipsy or had overdone it at that point.
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Yeah, it's kind of been written that they were kind of sneaking back and forth to the boat to, to you know, have some drinks. while Will you remind me how old they are? Like, underage, certainly. Yeah, I think they're all like right in that 18, 19, maybe 20 age range. I thought so too.
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I did find, you know, they I did hear some a little bit about oyster roads. ah oh Oyster roads. And, like, this is a really um popular thing in this part of the country.
Boat Journey and Near Collision
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guess it's like, I don't know if anyone's heard of crawfish boils down you know, like, New Orleans. But, so this is, like, a really big thing. They create a big old fire. They put the oysters on there. They wait for the um the shells to, like, start popping. And that's, like, the sign and that they're done.
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They throw them out on ah on the table and everyone just goes to town on them. And we've done that to a much smaller scale with our next door neighbors. With oysters, actually?
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Yeah. Oh, cool. Okay. Yeah. So it's it's a big thing out there. Yeah. And it honestly sounds pretty fun. It's, listen, it's real good. And to some degree, I'm kind of surprised there was no alcohol at the event.
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Yeah, unless there had been issues in the past, perhaps. that Yeah, very true. So the group, when they left at 1130 by boat, remember, um they start going to some waterfront bars.
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On the way, the boat almost collides with one of the bridges. So that's Already happening. Yeah. And I hate to keep saying this, but remember, they were navigating via flashlight, no lights.
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There was GPS that they were using to help them with navigation. And Connor was really watching that GPS and and helping um navigate that way. Yeah.
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So around 1 a.m., m Paul and Connor were seen on video doing shots. And the rest of the group was just kind of hanging out on the boat, getting annoyed. that they just wanted to be done with this. They want were ready to go home. I think the so it was the place they stopped at was called Luther's Bar and it was in Buford, which was kind of the little tourist town there.
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And yeah, only Connor and um Paul went in. They had two shots each. So I don't think they were there very long because all the others were quite annoyed. Paul on his way out, like, i don't know, like ran into a chair and then some other man like kind of made a joke and Paul kind of like got really aggressive and um like verbally aggressive back at him. And his friends were like, calm down, you know?
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Also, I mean, have you heard about this alter ego that they've talked about that Paul had? a little bit. Yeah. So Paul is said to have this kind of alter ego when he drinks and they actually name him Timmy.
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Um, and he just kind of does, he does this like weird things with his hand when he's in this state and, um, like spreads them out. I don't know. He does this weird thing with his hand.
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Um, he, he, at that, when he, when he's in this mode, he becomes more aggressive and belligerent. Um, and this is where he started really acting that way.
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Um, and this is also where Anthony really wants to drive. Anthony knows Paul should not be driving this boat at that time. And, um and Anthony really insists and Paul just insists it's his boat.
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And yeah, he's driving.
Cultural Context of Drinking and Boating
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He's driving. Yeah. So two things. um First, I hate the idea of giving, i don't know if he gave himself or an alter ego was, was bestowed upon Paul for when he had bad behavior. It's like, grow up, come on,
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That just makes me angry. It's like such an... It wasn't me. I just, you know how I get when I'm drinking. Well, then stop drinking. Yeah. It just infuriates me. It's another way that like the family has learned to avoid accountability. Yeah.
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But the second thing I want to say is ah we talked a bit about this before we started recording, but one of my best friends in the whole entire world from third grade when I moved moved here, and we're 40 and best friends still, has a summer house. And the only way it's accessible is by boat. Yeah.
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And this is somebody that I would trust with my life. I would trust my children. But even still that feeling of if something went wrong, I'm not in control or I'm on a, I'm on something being driven by somebody that I have no control over is like, I just know that uncomfortable feeling of like, I can't do anything if something goes wrong. I don't know how to drive this. And I know they all knew how to, how to drive the boat, but it's still like somebody else is in control of this vehicle And you're going to trust them to get you where you got to go.
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And there's nothing you can do about it. And I've even felt the same, even when I've been, again, with people who are... i very much trust and and very experienced driving boats, um you know, and they go really, really fast.
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And it's, it is kind of a little bit of a scary feeling, especially if you're not somebody who's used to being on boats all the time. Yeah. You know? So, yeah. And I think there's still, it's hopefully gotten better, but I remember this friend was very, very like very firmly, even as like teenagers, early twenties, when we were there,
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Like you don't drink and drive. You don't drink and drive anything. But that's a unique perspective for a lot of people. a lot of people are like, you don't drink and drive a car, but a boat's different.
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Yeah. there' So it's very much a, it's a thing. of like, you don't get behind any wheel, but for a lot of people, that doesn't mean boats. You can be pounding a beer and driving your boat. That's fine.
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Yeah. And I mean, in a lot of boats, a lot of lakes and such, I mean, DNR is out kind of like the police. They're monitoring the, you know, the boating area. Now I'm guessing on these little back creeks and rivers, that's not, that's not happening a whole lot.
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Side note, i don't know if I should say this, but in our family, um the, as soon as the yeah are We have younger kids and um and soon as soon as they turned teenagers, they got their boating license.
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So in that situation, they always drove with a designated yeah designated driver. so you Designated boat drivers See, that's the way to go.
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No, I remember being with this friend and we would go somewhere to meet up with some of her friends and she'd be like, no, I i take my boat. Like I drive because I don't want to drive with somebody who's been drinking that I can't like I feel a certain way about being in the boat with them, even though it's not technically illegal or it's not.
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Like there's different parameters for it. And she's like, no, we're taking my boat. tim It's fine. It's like, yeah great. And remember these kids specifically, they knew they were going to be drinking. That wasn't even a question. They specifically took the boat because of that.
Boat Crash and Search for Mallory
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overstate how these creeks and rivers are very hard to navigate. And generally only people who have been, are very familiar with them, get on there and utilize them.
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And think, you know, i think we're going to get into you know one of those things. File that back in your mind. Cause I think there's some um more that that comes into play ah later with some of the theories that we have. Yeah, so definitely.
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So about 1.15, the group decides to head home. However, over an hour later at 2.20 a.m., witnesses see the boat.
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They see it slow down in the water and then spike in speed. Allegedly on the boat, Paul and his girlfriend Morgan are arguing as he's speeding up.
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It's alleged that he slapped, spit on, and shoved Morgan during this argument, where he's also driving a boat. At 2.21 a.m., the boat hits the Archer's Creek Bridge.
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Paul, Anthony, and Mallory are all ejected from the boat. Paul and Anthony made it to shore with minimal injuries. However, 19-year-old Mallory Beach officially is missing.
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So this is now, we're now at February 24th, because it's past midnight. The group calls 911. Connor and Miley at this time are waving down officers, while Morgan can be heard on the call in pain and panicking about finding Mallory. So at this point, they're still thinking there's a chance of finding Mallory.
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And so Anthony is... looking for her. He's frantic. He's frantically trying to find her. And that's his concern. He's not, I feel like he's not worried about Paul having a, kind like there's nothing else going on in his mind except find Mallory. Yeah.
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And there was ah some, the some of the others were hurt pretty badly. Yeah. Morgan was hurt. I think. think I think Connor was hurt. or yeah So at this time, after the fact in the Netflix documentary, Miley says that Paul was most concerned with reaching his grandfather at this time, randall Randolph Murdoch, and eventually calls his father instead. I think this is worth talking about. yeah get into it don't you think it's interesting that he was calling his grandfather first wouldn't your wouldn't the natural thing be to call your parents yeah 100 unless my grandfather had connections in a community that he was a high-ranking law official and knew things that maybe your father didn't quite have the same reach or knew about i think that's key i think randolph yeah
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the third or whatever remember he was solicitor and he had a connection pretty major connections you know back in his day but he still had them alec did but not to the same level you know with with other authorities the sheriffs and that yeah so i think that's very key that um that it was his grandfather he called first And I think we talked about it in the first episode when we are talking about the history of the family. But it seems that Randolph was concerned about power and wealth, whereas Alec was concerned about not necessarily... And when say wealth, I mean kind of generational. i think I think the dynasty was what was important to Randolph.
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to um To, I keep wanting to say Paul, to Alec, it was his own personal, I think, wealth. And I don't think the power of the family mattered as much as his own independent,
Murdoch Influence and Hospital Events
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personal wealth accumulation power in the community.
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And so it would make sense that maybe he didn't have the same connections because he didn't see it as ah as important to foster those, some of those connections as his, his father recognized that it was. Yeah. And I think his father, actually, I think his father and grandfather were involved in some illegal activities of their own.
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And I believe in that day, even the sheriff's, um, The police in the area were being paid off or or involved in some way. I mean, that's just my, if you read Swamp Kings, um another book out there, they get into a lot more.
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So I think Randolph the grandfather, think he had more to hold over them. not just Not just sway, but Yeah. but actual yeah not i don't want to say blackmail but information yeah yeah that he could hold over these people and i i think one of alec's like kind of fatal flaws was not recognizing the power in that and he didn't pursue that same kind of information perhaps as his father did so i think i think we'll see we believe that alec is a reactor not a planner and i think that's almost reflected in his lack of connections that his grandfather yeah
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that Alex father had. Yeah, I agree. I wonder at this point, I mean, guess this is still in 2019. We know it's not too far. um I guess another year or so, right?
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When grandfather Randolph, health deteriorates a lot. ah Yeah. Yeah. I think so. I wonder at this point how, how healthy he was. Yeah. So on the scene,
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Despite Paul seeming visibly intoxicated, officers did not administer a sobriety test. So once the ambulance arrives, it attempted to take Paul, Miley and Connor in one ambulance together.
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But Miley said that Paul the entire time is aggressive and uncooperative. And didn't he actually have to... be in a separate ambulance from Miley and Connor. Yeah, they had to put, he did had to be in a his own ambulance because of his aggression and belligerence.
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And at this point, Anthony does not go in an ambulance. He stays there. he you know, he is so worried. He does not want to leave the accident site because he's, he wants to continue looking for Mallory. Yeah.
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And I think that Morgan was taken in a separate ambulance because she had more injuries than the other three. Okay. And so they got her out of there pretty quick, if I'm remembering correctly. So that's why she wasn't with the other three. The other three, I think, had injuries, but not as extensive as Morgan. Okay. Besides Mallory, of course, I think she was the most injured.
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So Paul's father and grandfather meet him at the hospital and nurses recall Alex attempting to talk to as many people involved in the events as he could.
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Sauntering around the hospital and introducing himself like he seemed like almost a politician. And he had at one point attempted to enter Paul's girlfriend Morgan's hospital room before she could talk to the police, but he was stopped.
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At the hospital, they find that Paul's blood alcohol level was three times the legal limit. Real quick, back to Alec sauntering around trying to talk to everyone. and what Like, what...
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What do you think he was trying to to convince everyone to say? I think he was trying to convince everyone to say that Connor was driving. okay Anybody else was driving, and I think Connor was the easiest because Anthony was wasn't there. right I think it was convincing them to yeah to say that. And again, i do think Connor was more involved. like Again, I think heat Connor was watching the GPS and helping with na yeah navigation. Yeah.
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So that would be the most likely person to point the finger to. Yeah. And I think this wasn't Paul's idea. I think this was probably Alex idea.
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However, after his blood alcohol level is is taken. Paul does say that Connor had been driving, but there's almost immediate evidence that showed that he was a passenger. I don't think the police ever believed Connor was driving. No, I think and i think all the other members um on the on the boat agreed. I don't think...
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They were all in agreement that that's what that he was. Let's remember and Paul's actual blood alcohol was like three times the legal limit. And this is several hours later.
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So can you imagine how high it would have been yeah right after the time of the crash? Yeah. And that the last reported, you know, a the last witnesses that reported seeing them consuming any alcohol was about 1 a.m. m Now, I'm sure that they were drinking on the boat still, like most likely, at least Paul was.
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But that would have been, if not, that's an entire hour that there's no reports of him still drinking. And it was still that high.
Legal Ramifications and Aftermath
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March 2019, Mallory's body found.
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twenty nineteen mallory's body was found And on April 18th, 2019, Paul was charged with two counts of boating under the influence and boating under the influence causing death, which all of these are felonies. Also, they didn't initially really treat the boat as evidence.
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um In fact, they didn't impound it at all. I think it was one of Alex's brothers who actually hauled it away. um A couple days later. Yeah.
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So instead of treating it as either evidence or ah crime scene. Right. It just got taken by the family. So Paul pleaded not guilty and was released on bond. and I think at this point, it's important.
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Paul was treated differently at this point. Like his mugshot was taken in his regular clothes, like in the hallway on like a phone camera. And there was no handcuffs. yeah Things that other ah other people in this position would normally have seen. Yeah.
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So there's no real movement on the case. It appears there were some scheduled hearings. I think there was small movement in in Mallory's death. However, on June 8th, 2021, the courts decide that...
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They are going to drop all charges against Paul as it was the day after his death. I don't know if that's normal. I think it is. I don't know. yeah I don't know. Yeah, I don't know if that would matter for the rest of the civil trials going on.
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That's my thought is... I don't know if South Carolina is a state that you can be charged civilly and criminally, or if that was done so there could be a lawsuit against the estate. I'm not sure.
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And we know that this was and having these charges dropped was extremely important to Alec. It was a major focus right after right after um after the murders, which people kind of found...
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a little odd that he was so focused on it Yeah. and he even suggested that the motive behind paul and maggie's death were retaliation for the boat crash so he's already kind of creating avenues for for doubt in his culpability and the deaths of his wife and son linked back to this boat crash. And he did that immediately, immediately after um the the murders, when police arrived, he was quick to jump on that.
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And Mallory's family were quick to get involved as well. Like they, they didn't let a second go by that they did not defend the their child and, you know, let, let them let media, let attorneys know that this is related somehow, not the way he's saying it is.
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They were involved. They have been, I mean, to this day, they are still speaking out. Just because, i mean, yes, I think that everyone was devastated that Paul was murdered, but they, they wanted the public to still, I don't know. Can you say what I'm trying to say?
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Like they, like they were, they didn't want it out of the, they didn't want this to overshadow Mallory. Yeah. Yeah. they They really didn't. yeah They didn't want this huge murder case to overshadow the horrific way their daughter died and that there was still an investigation happening and that they didn't, they wanted to make sure that their daughter's name didn't get lost in this or that they could somehow be blamed for the deaths of Paul and Maggie. If Alec is saying this was retaliation for that, that points to the Beach family or somebody around them. And it's like, no, no, no, no. no yeah
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Get her names out your mouth. On June 10th, 2021, scheduled hearing on the boat crash was postponed. However, the attorney general confirmed that the crash was still being investigated.
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The hearing was a motion to compel Alex to disclose finances after he claimed to be broke. The Beach family attorney suggested that this disclosure would have led to the discovery of his corporate fraud. And he kind of tried to settle a little bit at this point.
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I believe he offered, offered up, he had a meeting with Mallory's attorney and offered up like 500,000 of his own money.
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Well, 500,000. five hundred thousand And actually, I don't think that was his own money. That may have yeah just been the insurance money. And yeah, and they were like, no, no way. No. I mean, hopefully they they had seen kind of what the Satterfields had gone through a bit. And like, we're not we're not doing that.
Beach Family's Legal and Charitable Actions
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On June 15th, 2021, the Beach family attorney, Mark Tinsley, who, side note, is representing one of the Jane Does in the JP and Wayne Miller case.
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the civil case with the Jane Doe's who are claiming such sexual assault. Interesting. Yes. He released a statement that the family supports the attorney general's decision to continue investigating the boat crash.
00:28:12
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Now, prior, Mark Tinsley was actually a ah friend of of yeah Alec Murdaugh. And they had seen each other like at a some kind of conference in this time.
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And ah you know i think Alec approached him and, what's going on? you know I thought we were friends. And Mark was clear, yeah, we're friends. But that doesn't mean I don't fight as hard as against anyone else.
00:28:37
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Yeah, absolutely. and That's really, I think, the whole Murdoch family, almost like belief. It's like, we're friends. You don't do this. You help me out. It's kind of their MO. Or else I tell everybody about this thing. You know, whatever.
00:28:51
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September 20th, 2021, Connor Cook filed a lawsuit against Alec, alleging that the family was trying to place the blame for the boat crash on him.
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and since then, Mallory's mother, Renee Beach, has filed multiple lawsuits. She's filed a lawsuit against Buster Murdoch for giving Paul his ID to purchase alcohol.
00:29:14
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He filed suit against Maggie Murdoch. I think it's her estate for allowing Paul to use the family boat while drinking. And she filed suit against Alec and the store where the underaged boys bought the alcohol.
00:29:28
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And that lawsuit settled in January 2023. don't think we know what the damages were. um i Yeah, I don't think we know specifically, but I i do think they were... Fairly significant. In the millions. Yeah.
00:29:40
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And I think at one point, Alec kind of thought because of that, maybe they should let the rest go. or Yeah. i don't I don't know the status of any of the other lawsuits, but there there were more suits. um The host of the oyster roast, the bar owner, already said the convenience store owner. And it does appear that the convenience store parent company settled for about $15 million. Yeah.
00:30:03
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I don't think the host of the oyster roast likely did anything if there was no alcohol at the event and they were sneaking alcohol. I assume that one was probably dismissed, but I think that's probably the only one. And we don't know if that $15 million all went to the Beach family, do we? and Right.
00:30:18
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I don't think so. I mean, ah yeah, there were there were some other victims, although you know to a lesser extent, they were the did the yeah they their damages were not... um obviously nearly as significant, but yeah.
00:30:32
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Yeah. Hopefully that was, like i said, I don't know because at the, at that time only Connor cook and Renee had filed lawsuits, but I would hope, you know, Morgan was pretty seriously injured. so Some of that went for her care, you know, things like that, but I don't know.
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So in, we're going to end in kind of what the family has done for Mallory's legacy and November, 2023. And, um Hampton County in South Carolina partnered with Mal's Pal.
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This was an foundation that the Beach family started to celebrate Mallory's love of animals. And at the time, there were plans to build an animal shelter in the county in Mallory's honor.
00:31:12
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And for anybody interested, the website is Mal's Pals. It's M-A-L-Z-Pals. dash p a l s.com and it's i think that's what they're doing with yeah just for her legacy for her honor i guess she she was a big lover of animals and i think i'd like to think if something happened to a member of my family i could pour myself into doing something in their honor i always think of gabby petito's family has done such amazing things in domestic violence sphere and yeah i think that's a beautiful way to honor their daughter i agree
00:31:49
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So there have been, um you know, like this case is still ongoing. um The Beach family are still pushing for more accountability. And I think that the attorney general is still investigating things.
00:32:02
Speaker
My guess is a lot of the kind of stalling in it is there's a lot of other things going on with the Murdoch family since then as well. But it is like there is there have been updates there have been by updates. I mean, like,
00:32:17
Speaker
media announcement type of things. But this is this this case isn't gone. And I think that's probably difficult for and for Alex to swallow that, that the Beach family's not going anywhere and they're going to get account some sort of accountability.
00:32:34
Speaker
And, you know, it's thought that a lot of what was happening with Alex and what he was doing financially was partially to hide his money So that that to hide his estate so that that money could not be available for any of the lawsuits to have to pay the lawsuits.
00:32:56
Speaker
And he continued. This was still something important to him, even since he's been in prison yeah for the murders. Yeah, it really just like I think this just sticks in his craw.
00:33:07
Speaker
that he can't seem to shake the Beach family. And good for them. Yep. Yep. Well, I think this gives us a lot of the context that we need to get into the events before, directly before the murders of Paul and Maggie, and then we'll get into kind of directly after.
00:33:27
Speaker
but I think knowing the history of the family and then knowing these three cases that link to the family in very different ways gives us a pretty good picture of what we can expect when Alex is arrested and and accused of something so big. We can see the mindset already starting.
00:33:47
Speaker
that they're going to be able to get out of things. They're going to, people will believe what happened. They'll believe the family, you know, things like that because they've been taught over and over again that that's how it works. Yeah, I agree.
00:33:58
Speaker
Good time to wrap it up for the day. Yeah. All right. So next time we will start getting into the things that happened before Paul and Maggie were murdered. um And we'll see a lot of the things that I think will lead into the theory of why everything happened in these couple of years or a couple of days, weeks before the murders and even minutes.
00:34:22
Speaker
I think everything has a bigger reason. Yeah, I think this is tune in next week. I think it's going to be um very enlightening and interesting. I say that because it's the stuff I'm really interested in.
00:34:34
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. But no. I'm like, I love a timeline. you love the details. Yeah. All right, guys. We'll see you next ah week. All right. Have a great week. Talk to you soon.