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Murdaugh Murders, Part 11
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On today's episode, we keep talking through the appeals process and what we think will come next for Alex Murdaugh.
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Introduction and Focus on Murda Murders
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Welcome to Fixate Today Gone Tomorrow. I'm Nikki and I'm here with my Aunt Joy. We are two neurodivergent ladies who obsess about various topics. Joy is autistic and I have ADHD and we are letting our hyperfixations fly.
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Today we are fixating on the Murda murders. Music
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Welcome back. Welcome back, everybody.
Latest Case Updates and Media Coverage
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We are finishing up our series on the Murda murders. Today, we're just going to talk about some dates that have happened from when the appeal was there's a extension for the prosecutors to respond to the appeal up until just about right now actually a lot's happened i feel like this is the this is the kind of case that you're like nothing else can happen and it like won't end but something tells me it will keep happening yes agreed the sources we used the
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is the Murda Murders, a Southern Scandal on Netflix, Murda Murders podcast, AP News, and the books Swamp Kings and the Devil at His Elbow.
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so we wrapped up the last episode, April 2025.
Buster Murda's Personal Life Post-Trial
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So the first update was May Buster married his longtime girlfriend, Brooklyn White. And I put a couple just like random little things about Buster that I think we touched on, but didn't talk to too much about because he obviously got kind of put back in the spotlight when he got married. He was very vocal about how unfair he felt the trial was.
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And in, if you'll remember 2021, he had been expelled from law school for plagiarism. In this, I feel for Buster because his dad would call him constantly and drone on and on. About things and you could hear if you ever listen to any of the recordings of the phone calls Buster being like, okay, dad.
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And one of the things that Alex did constantly for a little while was try to encourage him to go back to law school somehow, even though he had been expelled. I don't think Buster's interested in becoming an attorney. Yeah, maybe he doesn't have the intelligence his father, four fathers did. I don't know.
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It's just not his thing as much as it was just expected of him. Or even like there's not a incentive as much. And I think like it was expected and and really like Alec's generation, like his brothers, I think had the desire to keep this like family legacy going. i never got the sense even in the best of times that Buster and Paul cared about that.
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No, I agree. I don't think there was ever a desire to like join the family business and stay in the small town. So yeah, so he's kept a low profile. as far as I know, Brooklyn, she did graduate law school. I don't know if she's actually working a practicing attorney. And I don't know I just tried to look it up. I don't know ah what poster if he's working what he's doing with his life. I don't know. I think he, and i I don't know where I saw this or why I know it, but he moved to a different county. He's still in South Carolina. Like he didn't want to move completely away from his father, but he moved to a different county closer to Brooklyn's family.
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So I think he's really like become more a member of her family and like leaning on them more. And I think I i told you before, I think Brooklyn lives in the town. We have actually, yeah, I have a sister who lives there and they're like friends of friends with. Yeah. People who are acquainted with Brooklyn's family. So, yeah. So I think that's where they are. So I think if he is working, he's probably just doing something that's not law.
Becky Hill's Legal Charges
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On May 14th, 2025, Becky Hill was officially charged with perjury, obstructing justice and misconduct. So this is the clerk who had been accused of pressuring jurors to vote guilty in the murder trial and wrote a book about the whole case.
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It was found that she abused her office for financial gain. This included getting bonuses of nearly $12,000 between September 2021 to March of 2024.
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She pleaded guilty to two counts of misconduct in office, one count of obstruction of justice and one count of perjury in December 2025.
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And she received a suspended five-year sentence and probation. So I believe that is the end of the Becky Hills saga, except for what her role will be in the appeal, if there if there's a new trial or anything. But in terms of for her, for what she was a part of, that's that.
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I think the perjury is surprised me the most because it was like perjury for the fact I think there was something to do with she showed some evidence, sealed evidence to a reporter photographer. And then then she lied about that. I'm like, oh, my God, stop making yourself a bigger hole here. Like it's we know you did this.
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Like, just say, yeah, I did. My bad. Yeah.
Buster's Lawsuit Against Netflix
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In June 2025, Buster filed a lawsuit against Netflix, Warner Brothers, Blackfin, Campfire Studios, Brothers.
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warner brothers entertainment So Warner Brothers Discovery and Warner Brothers Entertainment, he filed for defamation stemming from the accusation of his involvement in the Stephen Smith case.
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So the these are from the documentaries on the streaming platforms, The Murdaugh Murders, The Southern Scandal, and Low Country, The Murdaugh Dynasty.
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According to the suit, the depiction of a, quote, young man with red hair carrying a baseball bat during a reenactment of of Stephen Smith's death is defamatory. it is suggested that that's depicting Buster, which I don't think is wrong. Well, we look at this a little differently.
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You and i were just talking about this before. And to yeah me, the fact that he's bringing up these lawsuits makes me further believe he's innocent because I think it would be really dumb to bring up more lawsuits and have it the matter looked into closer if if you were truly guilty yeah and i see it as he is still kind of the entitled good old boy who's like you don't get to say this about me if you're gonna accuse me of this i'm gonna sue you and i'm gonna win and that'll show everybody
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That's how I see it. And yeah.
Ethics of True Crime Documentaries
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Yeah. Just we just. Yeah. Funny how we look at it in different ways. I know. i know. And it that was like we never even talked about it That was just automatically like where our brains went. And I love that about us. um The defendants attempted to dismiss the case, but the judge cleared the way for Buster to move forward.
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The defendants had tried to have it tossed under First Amendment protections, but the judge said that Buster's claims were plausible enough to move forward with the trial.
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The judge warned that it requires, quote, a rigorous showing to prove defamation, but he can go ahead and try. At the time, the lawsuits had moved to the discovery phase. And what this kind of will open the door for is more of a revisiting of the death of Stephen Smith. I think an unintended consequence of this is going to be that things could get put on the record about Stephen Smith's case that otherwise maybe wouldn't have. And that's why I think it's ah not a smart move if he truly was going
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guilty but I don't yeah and my thought is like I don't think he thought about that I know you know what I mean yeah I think we and we just talked about this case I think before we were recording in a different context but the West Memphis three case One of the accused after the three the three young men who were found guilty, there is another accused person who Natalie from formerly known the Dixie Chicks, but now the chicks had like on record said she thought he did it.
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And then he sued her for defamation. But what it did was like it opened the door for them to ask him questions about the murders. And he said like a ton of incriminating things because he couldn't tell the truth. and And so it's just like, okay why'd you sue her for defamation? like It was like he didn't think about that. He thought he'd get a bunch of money from Natalie Maines. It does bring up another thought and to me, though, and it is about kind of these Netflix and these other documentaries that especially about these um like yeah two crime true crime big headlining cases. There's a Lori Daybell, I'm sorry, Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell case, and um and her son, Colby Ryan, has a a YouTube channel. And, you know, he he often discusses how upsetting what the next Netflix documentary, how it was portrayed. And seems like that that is kind of happens ah in a lot of cases. Yeah, I think there there are responsible ways of creating and then consuming true crime content.
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And it is trying to find that line of what that is. And for me, it's like staying victim focused, but not crossing the line of defaming someone who's accused of something or who just has a bad character, perhaps, that's related tangentially. and that's And that's hard. That's definitely hard. But I think there is, like, there is
Responsible Content Creation in True Crime
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responsible ways of doing it.
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Yeah. So with, like, these Netflix um and and other documentaries, I just have a concern that, like, that there's maybe a narrative that's already predetermined. And i I think about... well obviously this and, and Buster's viewpoints having issues with it. And then like the Lori Vallow, Chad Daybell case, I know their Lori Vallow's son, Colby Ryan does a um he has a YouTube channel and which is really good. And, but he talks about the fact there was a Netflix documentary that he participated in and that came out and that was very upsetting because he felt like they did not tell the story they told him they were
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going to focus or did not focus on the things that they I watch most of the documentaries but I do have a mixed feelings about that yeah I think I think it's a matter of recognizing like the line right of something that's exploitative versus not and I mean usually my go-to is like if the family is involved I trust it a bit more but then things like even like that come up that Colby was like yeah I was involved And then they kind of went back on what they told me it was going to be like. And that would be, I say, like completely irresponsible of the filmmakers on the creator side. The one that I just watched was the new one about Elizabeth Smart. Oh, yeah, yeah. I've been watching. i haven't finished it. Yeah.
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That I felt like was such a good example of responsible content creation. But she was highly involved in it directly. Right. That's what I was going to say. she Her and then other people that haven't spoken out. Like, I don't think her sister's ever spoken like this. I know her dad's been pretty, pretty upfront and in in the public about, about her case, but I don't know how like granular he's gotten like in the documentary. And then I saw...
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They asked her mother to participate and her mom was just like, I'm just ready to move on. Like, I don't want to talk about it anymore. It's traumatizing for me. If my kids want to talk about it, that is absolutely their story to tell. I need to be done. And it was like, that was completely honored and nothing bad was said. And i think that was just a really good, good example of like how to be responsible in it and they kept their word and you know all of that.
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Well that's good. I don't know. I guess there's something like you and I did a ah lot of podcasts in YouTube about the Micah Miller case and And and we we had some conversations. i I actually spent a little bit of time with JP and some of the other members of of the other players in the story. And actually, they they contacted me about a Netflix movie that's coming out.
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that they're creating. So I think it'll be interesting because i did talk to the producer. i did think that there was a narrative that they definitely were trying to, I don't know if I would say push me into saying there was definitely narrative and parts of it I i didn't agree with. And one part in particular was that we did have a recording that we said we wouldn't share and they wanted a copy of the recording and i said we gave our word that we would not share it and I would not but
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There was conflict a little bit between you and I. We had different feelings about it. Well, I don't even think it was conflict as much as I started panicking. um And not because like, I'm like, let's be on Netflix. He said, no, we're not going to be famous now. No, it was when you first told me that I was like, yeah, absolutely. I'm in complete agreement. That was, we, we gave our word and the right thing to do, even if we don't necessarily love the person is to keep our word. That's just, that's the responsible thing to do.
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And then I started spiraling going, but wait, are we now protecting somebody we think did some pretty terrible things? I don't want to be complicit in protecting him. And so I texted you that not even being like, I think we should reconsider, but I think I even said like, I need you to talk me down and remind me we did the right thing.
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And you were like, yeah, it's not about that person. We're not protecting that person. we are protecting ourselves. We are protecting our integrity. Yeah. So we held to that. I'm very curious to see how it comes out if anything I said is used because some of the things I said were. probably a little bit contrary to the narrative. And part of that has to do with, especially with some of the other people I met. And when I did, ah you know, I'm not defensive of JP at all, but um I probably did, I do defend probably Susie in that case more than most people. And that's because I did spend time with her. and i'm
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But i i I have a feeling that was not part of the narrative they they wanted to portray. So I'm kind of interested to see. Yeah. And we did, because I have quite a few things saved from that case, like videos and things like that. We did offer if they're interested in anything like that, I'm happy to like send whatever and do whatever. so And not to toot our own horns, but we did hear from ah one of the attorneys in that case. And she did use one of our actual videos. In a presentation she gave to so it was Yeah, it's it's i think I think we can be proud of ourselves for sticking with our integrity.
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I hope so. I think so. Back to Murdoch. But I guess back to, and and actually one more, I guess to when you talked about the Elizabeth Smart documentary, because it was a true crime where it was, where she's alive and she could tell her story. yeah I think then, yeah, it's a little bit hopefully easier to to be true to um her word than, I mean, in in the case of, let's say the Mike Miller case.
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Like Mila can't, she's no longer alive. So she can't defend and give her perspective. So I guess it's just a little bit more, a little bit more difficult to get to the actual true honesty of the whole thing because we'll we'll never know.
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Yeah. Yeah. That does, you know, that adds a layer and that's part of the true crime world is the victims not being able to speak for themselves. Right, right. All right. Let's get back to this.
New Evidence: Alec Murda and Curtis Eddie Smith
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so I know you looked into this more than I did, which I'm glad about.
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On July 15th, 2025, newly discovered text messages between Alec and his alleged drug dealer, Curtis Eddie Smith were discovered by lead defense attorney Dick Harputian.
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These texts had not been provided to the defense during the trial. And the defense said that this could have changed their decision in not calling cousin Eddie to the stand.
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He said, quote, these messages offer new insight into the timeline of the drug distributions, some of them happening the very week of the murders. So I think I have. Yeah. So I really wanted to look into this.
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First of all, what I researched it, in fact, the defense, although that was the defense's claim, that was not exactly true in that they were provided with all of the information that. the expert for the on the side of the prosecution did not include those particular text messages in the timeline.
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But, I mean, they didn't include everything. So in that, you kind of pick and choose what is in there and what isn't. They decided that those were not relevant.
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But that does not mean that the defense did not have – they had all the information and they had access to it. so Yeah. So there is, and I know this from the serial podcast and all the subsequent things with Adnan Syed, there is a thing called a Brady violation. And that is when one side doesn't give the other side all of the evidence it has.
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So in terms of that, like this doesn't constitute Brady because they did in fact have them in their possession and they could have cross-examined the expert and been like, you missed this.
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Correct. That is my understanding of it. I would ah now I personally think that their Curtis Eddie Smith had a lot more to do with this whole case than.
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yeah So I find it interesting. um The defense did originally have Curtis Eddie Smith on their list of possible witnesses, and they chose not to call him. And yeah, that's what the defense said, this information. would have could have changed their their decision to pull it or not but let me just go through the text messages a little bit and what they included were on so let's remember the murders were actually actually on june 7th yeah and on june 3rd so four days before there's a text message at 10 26 in which Smith says, hey, brother, I need to come get the check. You got one with you, are you going to be around later? Murda responds, okay, I will be back this afternoon. I've got to deal with some bullshit this morning. Do you want me to say the curses?
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Okay, let me redo it, and I'll say the curse word. okay Okay, I will be back this afternoon, and I have to deal with some bullshit this morning. Smith responds, okay, brother, just give me a holler. Smith leaving the house now. So that was four days before. On June 6th, the day before, Murdoch texts in the morning, 1123, Curtis Smith, call me back.
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And then the day after, June 8th, so the day after the murders, at 748 in the morning, Smith says, tell me what I heard is not true. um Smith responds, call me, please. Then later that evening at about 630, he says, at Smith texts at fishing hole. And then about an hour later, Smith says, and he kind of puts a phone number and said, it will not go through on my phone. So I don't know. i don't know if those are significant.
00:20:32
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I, again, I think that there's a chance that he had had more to do with this whole case than was originally brought attention to. And what that with that, I mean, you know, my mind goes to, okay, was there a check? Was there money that Alec owed and then was having trouble with because of the issues going on? at the law firm with him, with him finding about out about his misdeeds. And then he was not able to pay at that point. Could that have, you know, got him in danger with other people who are waiting on money? I don't know. Yeah.
00:21:05
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Yeah. Well, it appears that Cousin Eddie might be one of the largest OxyContin distributors in Palmetto State, which is huge in South Carolina. Like that's, that's wild because we- In the Micah Miller case, we've seen the level of trafficking that is going on. And so that's a big deal. And there's some concern that Smith has not been prosecuted for selling drugs to at least Alec, which I i wonder, kind of going going back to what we know about the J.P. Miller stuff, like, could Cousin Eddie be involved at a different level?
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is you know what I mean? Like, has he been protected by a plea? Yeah. Yeah, all those things. Yeah, there's definitely something that seems a little strange. ah yeah It is surprising that he was not called by a witness for either. Yeah, at the very least being called as a witness. I don't know, but I think there's more to do with him. Yeah, I have seen speculation that at the fishing hole was...
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Some sort of signal that he i don't even remember how it was phrased appropriately properly, but it was like that was some sort of signal or phrase. And that meant that um cousin Eddie could have helped dispose of weapons or something like of the weapons that were used, the murder weapons, something like that is what I saw. And I couldn't tell you where I saw that. It was just stuck in my brain.
00:22:29
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Yeah, I mean, and part of that make kind of makes sense. So, yeah. The defense said that if a new trial is not granted, they will file a habeas petition to have the conviction vacated based on this evidence. And if there was a new trial, it would exclude the financial crimes because Alex has already pleaded guilty to that. So this would be completely separate from...
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which I wonder if that means that that can't come up. No, it's fact. It's a fact. It's on record. He pleaded guilty. That is something that I think could not be excluded from the trial. Like, it's just what happened unless a judge rules that we don't talk about the financial part because that part's separate from the murders or some somehow. I think that that can be the case. And unless then... the defense says something to bring that information in and open that, open that up for a question. I don't, I don't know. Cause that's how it got brought in. And the first, I'm not, I'm not Yeah.
00:23:26
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Well, that's, yeah, I do think that is very interesting. And I'm, I'm super curious ah if that will be brought up at the 11th, at the hearing on the 11th. I want to know more about that.
00:23:38
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Yeah, me too. Yep. To me, that's more interesting than, and more relevant than to me, like even the Becky Hill stuff seemed a little bit more like an excuse, but, but I do think that this could be relevant. Again, though, i don't think it's, I don't think the defense is representing it exactly.
00:23:56
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in a forthcoming manner. It was not hidden from them. The information was available. so yeah i think that um i think becky hill is low-hanging fruit for an appeal that's just an easy thing like look this thing sure you know but yes i agree i don't think they're being entirely forthcoming honest with like we didn't have access to it i also think this is just another another reason to put in like here's another reason we should have a new trial i don't think they actually care the defense about
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Eddie being charged with anything. It's more about getting Alex out for them is my thought. Yeah, I don't know. i don't I'm not sure because I do think that there's a chance that either there were co conspirators involved. Yeah. And I also think that the that i mean, I've personally talked about how I feel the everything rolled out differently that day. yeah And I think it actually may have been second degree murder rather than first. And, i you know, I don't know if, I mean, that would make a difference in a retrial, but I'm not sure if it'll, it'll ever come to that, but should be interesting to hear, especially about these text messages. Yeah. Yeah.
Alex Murda's Financial Crimes
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On July 28th, 2025, it was officially reported that Alex had stolen more than $10 million dollars from clients, partners, family, and friends. Most of the civil cases had resulted in millions of dollars in judgments or settlements. At the time, South Carolina released a list of delinquent taxpayers for the first quarter of 2023. And Alex Murdaugh was in the top five with over $1.5 million dollars in delinquent taxes. He previously had been indicted on tax evasion charges, on state tax evasion charges, not federal. I wonder if that door is still open. Yeah. I mean, also, there's still been a lot of talk about where all of that $10 million dollars went. Yeah. If it is somehow being hidden.
00:25:58
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That's a lot of drugs for one guy. is. I know it's not all that, but and it's lifestyle. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. I think it's... That's a lot money. Yeah, guess maybe as somebody who feels like I spend way too much money, I'm like, I could see how you could go through it living that lifestyle. But I don't know. I don't know. And I think the drugs could get really add up. Yeah. Also think, hey, he was giving checks to Curtis Eddie Smith that were pretty large on a continual basis, money laundering. What was something fully going on with that, too? That was different. So.
00:26:29
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Yeah. And it was also a ton of, what is it? robbing Robbing Peter to pay Paul. So the movement of money could even be in that. i don't know. i'm I'm teaching a course as a programmer at my job instead of just like my normal job. And I get $300 the end of it. And I'm like, oh, good. I can buy a good microphone. So like I don't spend anything. Yeah.
00:26:54
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So you don't need to go laundry that money. No. either No. and And so like $10 million dollars could be like a hundred big billion trillion dollars. To me, it's the I don't know. on the, yeah on the one on the Hulu show program, the fictional one, they show him the family going on vacation to the Bahamas or something. I,
00:27:16
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ah according, they like they spent like $60,000 there. So don't know if that's actually true or accurate, but I'm like, oh, at that rate, yeah, you could go through all your money. we i I just flew to you for a wedding and I missed a connecting flight and had a complete meltdown because I have terrible traveling anxiety. And I called my husband like crying and he was like, How much is it to get a day pass to like the the club that you could just like go sit in there for six hours and settle down? I was like, it's $60. I can't do that. And he was like, you should go do that.
00:27:53
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Did you? I did. Yes. oh But it was like, I had to be, i was like, I can't spend $60 on myself. And he was like, can you please go do that?
00:28:03
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but No, we did that once actually with your grandmother. And we had that one of those days. And yes, I can actually be really cheap about stuff like that. And she's like, I'm spending, I'm paying, whatever.
00:28:15
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It was probably $50 then. But but now, yeah yeah, now we do not travel without being in the club. Yeah. We are very, ah we but like even my kids are like, god I need the card so I can go to the club. like For me, it was like, you know, how expensive food is in an airport terminal. I probably saved that spending the day there.
00:28:37
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But it was just like its much more relaxing. Yeah, ah any vacation that's in like the tens of thousands. I'm like, that's shocking. That being said, I travel a ton and I don't spend like that's why this when I heard this Bahamas thing and they were spent $60,000 on me. We travel a lot and we travel pretty cool places. And there's a lot of us and I'm like, we don't spend nearly that much money. so so But they're spending that they could go through it like that. Yeah.
00:29:05
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What do you think about the tax evasion stuff? Do you think he could still be charged? I don't see why not. Yeah. But I wonder why he hasn't. Maybe just too small of a fish to fry at this point. I don't know. Or is it like we're keeping this in our back pocket in case something goes bad? We're going to add charges. I think it's wild, too, that there's been nothing federal. Yeah. No, that is very true. Yep.
00:29:26
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I think that's that's crazy. And as we've looked into before, usually tax evasion is the opening to get into i issues or how, yeah, like the FBI can get gain access and get into your full financial records. So because of that, you'd think that they have access to all of his financial records and if there was a different money laundering or something going on.
00:29:49
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Yeah. i don't know I don't know. I don't know either.
Attorney General's Response to Appeal
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So in August 2025, the South Carolina Attorney General's office filed a formal response to the defense's appeal. It's a nearly 200 page filing asserting Alex's quote,
00:30:06
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obvious guilt. This filing said that there's just tremendous evidence against him. It's overwhelming. There's no doubt about his guilt and that Becky Hill's conduct would not have changed the outcome of the trial.
00:30:20
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On August 13th, the South Carolina Supreme Court agreed to hear an appeal regarding a ruling that had denied Alex a new trial. That is officially happening. Also, I wonder, so when um when the attorney general office denied the appeal based on Becky Hill's conduct, was at that time the text messages taken into consideration? Was that that not appeal not that not considered at that point.
00:30:51
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I don't know if the text messages were included in the appeal because they hadn't been discovered yet. I don't know. I don't how that works. Which I honestly, the the part about Becky Hill's conduct would have changed the outcome. like I think that's obvious, pretty obvious that it would not have. I don't know. To me, the text messages pose a different possibility. ah But again, i don't think think that they were, the defense had access to them. So i'm not sure that that part of the argument. Yeah, I see that opening a door for a different kind of conversation about the crime, but I don't see it as a way to get a new trial. Right. right I agree.
00:31:31
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On October 15th, 2025, the scripted Hulu series called Murdaugh Death and the Family premiered. Alex's defense team released a very critical statement about the series, calling it inaccurate, misleading, and saying that no one from the Murdaugh family was contacted to be involved.
00:31:50
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I don't think anyone would be contacted to be involved as it's based on Mandy Matney's work. So it was her perspective and her side of it. And that's that's kind of my understanding is like, it's from her book. It's from all that. And they would have, when once they heard Mandy Matney was involved, been like, we don't want you to do this.
00:32:10
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yeah So Mandy Matney, who actually was a podcaster reporter who really broke open this case at at the beginning. She now is at True Sunlight. so But she's done a ton of reporting on the Murdoch case.
00:32:23
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Yeah, and still is.
Upcoming Appeal Arguments
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And finally, on January 20th, 2026, it was announced that oral arguments in the state versus Richard Alexander Murdoch would begin on February 11th, 2026.
00:32:40
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So that is four days from now. It is the seventh that we are recording. So we'll probably do a little, at least quick commentary on on what we hear there. And i think I think we are going to try to also read Blanca, the the housekeeper's book and maybe do a quick video on that or a quick podcast on that Yeah, I'd really like to do that. And I might actually purchase that one new because I, i if we're doing a a book club, like I write in it, I do all this stuff in it. So I never want to like, but I always get a used copy, but I'll support Blanca. I'll buy her book.
00:33:14
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Very good. I'm on a protest against Amazon, so I'll have to find a different place to buy. Oh yeah. I won't do it through. It's a hot tip for everybody. Bookshop.org awesome. a very good book website because you can select a local bookstore that like it would like count as we purchased it from them and like they get up a portion of like the proceeds of the book you ordered online so bookshop.org is if I'm ordering books now that's where I go and then I pick my our local village bookstore okay and I will go there too so yes
00:33:48
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Ironically, I live in a much bigger city and i can't i don't I can't even think of where there's a local bookstore that I know of. And you're and you're in the small little village and you have one. We have a bookstore and our coffee shop and the library and a little grocery store. Yes.
Conclusion and Introduction to New Series
00:34:03
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All right. Well, I think that's it. We'll wrap it up for today. Yes, we are not done with Murda, but we are going to start a new series now after this. We'll come back with a little update about The Appeal. And I'm sure as more things happen, we'll have some updates. But we are moving on to a new series and I can't stop writing scripts. It'll be exciting.
00:34:25
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Are you go to announce it? Should we? Yeah, i do it. Okay. We are doing the Kennedy curse. And I have to tell you, I i can't stop. i can't stop researching and writing. But between doing this series, the next book we're doing for our book club on over on our YouTube channel, and then the Kennedys, I'm like, I can't handle any more terrible families.
00:34:47
Speaker
but We need to do something positive. I'm drowning in bad families. Makes you feel good about your own. Yes. Makes you feel very good about my own. And all I'm still obsessed. I still can't stop reading about them. That'll be a great new series on and a different different focus. Yeah. Yeah. All right, guys. So tune next week. All right. We will talk next week. Thanks for joining us.
00:35:11
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Bye-bye. Bye.