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The Run Testers Podcast | Episode 2
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In the second episode of The Run Testers Podcast, Tom, Nick and Jane talk about World Athletics, The Badwater 135, the Nike Zoomfly 5, the Saucony Endorphin Speed 3 and Pro 3 – and have loads of fun with some "incredible" running facts.
If you listen, you'll also get a nice discount code from our friends over at SportsShoes.
Perfect for that Sunday long run.
Big thanks to Fear of Tigers for the killer intro music. You can listen to more of his stuff over at https://www.patreon.com/fearoftigers
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Transcript
Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:06
Speaker
Hey there, Tommy from The Runtesters and welcome to the monthly Runtesters podcast where we talk about lots of things to do with the world of running from the latest races, how our training is going as well as loads and loads of kit that we've tested over the past month. We also have guests on occasionally like experts in the world of running kit as well as athletes talking about their training and the kit that they use to do that.
00:00:32
Speaker
You'll also get some interesting but slightly tenuous running facts peppered throughout the podcast as well.
Sponsorship and Discounts
00:00:38
Speaker
This episode of the Runetester's podcast is brought to you by our friends over at Sport Shoes. Now, if you haven't heard of Sport Shoes, and you probably have, they have a massive range of shoes and kit, including the latest items out, as well as lots of older kit that you can normally get at a cheaper price. So well worth a look at the stuff that they've got available.
00:00:57
Speaker
You can also use the code TESTIS10 to get 10% off your orders when you're buying stuff from Sport Shoes. Right then, let's jump into the podcast.
00:01:19
Speaker
Okay, guys, the second Run Tester podcast.
Nick's Marathon Updates
00:01:24
Speaker
And we've got Jane in this time. How are we all doing? Hello, Jane. Hello, hello. Hello. So as always with the podcast, we're going to start with a little bit of an update on all the running that we've been up to. Let's start with Nick. Nick, you always do the most running. What are you up to at the moment?
00:01:45
Speaker
Still marathon training, still pumping out the miles, lots of long runs. I did a race, though. I did the Essex champs, 10k over 10k, and I was sixth or seventh. I was seventh, but all the results say I'm sixth, and we have no idea why a guy's been deleted randomly from the results, so I'll take it. You'll take it. You will take it. He always takes it. But even better what we took was we were arriving with third team on the day by virtue of the fact that the team that should have won the overall Essex Championships, one of their runners was only 15, so it didn't count. That'll teach him.
00:02:15
Speaker
Is it good? He's very good. He came out with us at the start. He did fall off a bit but he is 15 so he was still top 10 I think but yeah it doesn't count. Yeah so I'm fairly too young. I respect that. Yeah well yeah you'll take it won't you? Always. Yeah so how was that race then apart from the fact that you cheated a place?
00:02:37
Speaker
I'm training for all the racing at the moment, so I wanted a cushy carbon shoe to try and run fast while still protecting the legs. I rode pretty quick. I was pretty pleased. It was just over 33 mins and it was hot and a bit hilly. I've got a lot of super shoe anxiety about the marathon to come and I really want to
00:02:53
Speaker
decide which one I'm going to pick. I did a long run in the Vaporfly. I want to use the Outflow one. I want to get a fresh pair of Outflow ones somehow and use them as well. I'm getting a lot of shoe anxiety. It's going to last for the whole summer, so expect me to talk about that a lot for the next few months. Do you know what I'm going to do? I'm going to do what Tom did to me and text you the night before and go, interesting. Whatever shoe you pick, whatever shoe you pick. Mick won't care. He won't listen to any of my advice on shoes. No, certainly not. I've seen your reviews.
00:03:21
Speaker
And it was the right choice for you, Jade. It was. It was. I take it all back. Worked out well. So, Alpha Fly 2 still delivering the goods for you, Nick?
00:03:31
Speaker
Yeah, it was great in that race. I just, I don't know, it's part of me wondering if I don't, because it is obviously part of the reason he got updated was to make it more accessible to lots of people, a bit more stable, you know, a bit less narrow and all that, but I didn't need any of the extra stability or anything. So I'm wondering if maybe the first version will suit me even better because it's a bit lighter, but these are all just doubts that I don't need. I don't need to talk, I don't need indulging in my obsessions and my doubts. Let's move on.
00:03:55
Speaker
I'm enjoying indulging you in these doubts. I've got to start doing this more often. Alright then, let's let Nick calm down a bit now. Jane, what have you been
Jane's Marathon Dilemma
00:04:03
Speaker
up to? Are you actually training for anything at the moment?
00:04:05
Speaker
Well, I have a spot in London, people are gonna hate me. I have a spot in London. I got in on the Chicago ballot and I've been offered a spot in New York. What do I do? What do I do? Do I do all of them? Do I do none of them? I was gonna do Chicago, but I haven't booked any flights and now they're really expensive. So I'm training for a marathon. I just don't know which one is my answer.
00:04:31
Speaker
Yeah, and you know, they've all got different start dates. So what we come in on in a plan is, you know, anyone's guess. But you know, we'll see. We'll see what happens. We've got weeks to decide, right? Well, does the marathon that you eventually do affect how you're going to want to train or is it just? No, no, I'm here for the joy of running here just to have a great time. What you were veering towards, what would you most like to do?
00:04:59
Speaker
I think New York to be honest. It's going to be New York. New York's well after London, isn't it?
00:05:05
Speaker
Is it like three weeks after? You're running for joy, it's fine. True, that's true. I'm in London back to back. I'm not running for any joy. I know, but you're a maniac. I think I'm over this whole... This probably isn't a really run, test, or opinion. I imagine loads of people that listen to this are very into running for times, but I'm kind of over it, to be honest.
00:05:30
Speaker
bit sick of that whole like Instagram mentality where you've got to get quicker every race. So running for... It's the power of 10 mentality. It's just a really fast mentality. It's just the man running mentality, isn't it? So I'm over it. I'm over it. Not the gender stereotype. That's really wrong of me actually. It's just that like toxic
00:05:51
Speaker
Every run you do has to be quicker than the last. Not for me. Not for me. So I might be quicker. I might not be quicker. I might, I might do two. I might do none. I don't know. This is me. This is me at 30. Yeah, this is me. Turn 30. Don't care anymore.
00:06:12
Speaker
You'll start caring a bit more when you get to my age, Jane, when you start to get worried that you're not going to be able to get your times anymore. I'm reaching my peak at the moment and it's worrying. No, I'm there. I peaked at 29. I'm done now. Well, I thought I did. Tom's in his most intense training ever.
Tom and Mike's Training Journey
00:06:31
Speaker
Yeah, you're doing Chicago, right, Tom?
00:06:34
Speaker
I, me and Mike are both doing Chicago and we're both doing the same training plan. So we're using a one-track club, which you may have heard of. You guys are probably good. Yeah, that's fletch, isn't it?
00:06:47
Speaker
That's Fletch. Yeah. So yeah, we're doing the, uh, the Steph 12 marathon training plan. It's actually for London, but you can dip your cargo because it's like the week after, isn't it? So we're, yeah, we're training for that. It's pretty tough. It's pretty tough. It's, uh, for, for a man that has gone from, I think the most training I've ever done for a marathon is a couple of long runs, uh, along with my normal training. So yeah, this is like, Oh, I think we've done two, two weeks, two and a half weeks now. And it's.
00:07:16
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty intense, mainly like six days. It's basically all week if you include all of the mobility and stretching and stuff like that. But yeah, I'm mildly just shot up higher than it has been for a very long time. Are you over the calf, Niggle?
00:07:31
Speaker
Seems okay. Seems okay. I can still feel something there, but yeah, I've been doing my calf raises every day and the stretching and stuff. So hopefully I've managed to get by it. Yeah. I'm loving Tommy on a full proper training plan. Cause it's nice to see the whining in the group about another run. I'm finding it quite hard. The, um, just fitting it in the runs like, and also when you're doing your own training plan, I say your own training plan.
00:08:00
Speaker
When I'm training for a marathon, I'm just going out and doing a run. I normally base it around, I've got an hour for lunch, or I've got an hour until I've got to be back for dinner or something like that. But now, every run just seems to be like an hour and 15 minutes, an hour and 20 minutes, because you've got to fit in all the other bits as well, like the warm-up and the cool-down and the bits like that. So yeah, finding it really hard to fit it all in.
00:08:20
Speaker
Welcome to my world, Tom. I feel like we've swapped training plans, Tom. This is what I used to do. And now I'm like, do a long run, see what happens. So maybe the time approaches the way to go. Maybe I'll PB at whatever I run. You're quite drunk. You've got to do it for a long time, Jane.
00:08:40
Speaker
I'll get really drunk and I'll just be really calm and I'll just be like meh. What would you tell me your approach? Your approach was to go out really, really hard and just hang on. So I'll just do that.
00:08:51
Speaker
That's that yeah, always that's the best approach.
Kieran's European Marathon Challenge
00:08:53
Speaker
I think it's widely regarded as the best approach for any race very much Also, I do like how much we're all uh, yeah whining complaining but marathon's not sure and kieran's run a marathon a day for 31 days Oh, yeah Do a bit of an update on uh kieran to anyone who's listening who I think everyone who's listening probably knows what kieran's doing but his denoubron, which is What is it to 2000?
00:09:19
Speaker
I don't know. He seemed quite sketchy on the distance. I don't know how weird he was. He did work it out. He told us yesterday that he's at about 800 miles now and he's almost halfway. So that sort of ties up. He's probably marked that a little bit higher.
00:09:37
Speaker
Yeah, so he's at 800 miles and I think he says he's going to be through... What's that? Crow 8. He's in Serbia at the moment and then he's going to be in Croatia soon and then hopefully in the next four days he'll be done those and moves on to the next country. Not sure what it is. If you go follow him, or is it Mandy Miles on Instagram, you can run with him. I think he's very keen. If you're in those areas, go and find him because I think he would help him a lot. Yeah, he'd be very happy if you'd join him for a run. He seems quite keen on people buying a beer for him.
00:10:04
Speaker
Yeah, maybe buy him some new kit or some socks or something. Because when's he washing? When's he washing? He says to me he wasn't going to wash.
00:10:13
Speaker
He has done a bit of washing. I've seen him post a bit about when he goes... He quite enjoys going to the launderette, I think. But I did see his socks have perished today. Yeah, I saw that. And I've seen that he hates dogs. So, I mean, I'm immediately unfollowing him. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. I think he hates all dogs. It's just the ones that are trying to kill him. Yeah, just the ones that are trying to give him rabies. But yeah, he's doing well. He's doing well.
00:10:36
Speaker
Yes. All right, well, we've done our chat about what we've been up to. I think it's time for the high point of the podcast, the running facts. Running facts. Here we go, the facts. As always, I should point out that I have not verified these in any way, so if they are inaccurate or nonsense, don't blame me. I've seen some of the ones coming up and they are definitely nonsense, but I'm excited.
00:11:02
Speaker
Yeah. Well, this one's a particularly interesting one. Apparently, Edison Pina, who was one of the Chilean miners in the incident in 2010, apparently trained for his first marathon whilst being trapped in the mine. Apparently, he ran six miles a day in the mine and then completed the New York Marathon less than a month after being rescued from the mine.
00:11:26
Speaker
What do you think to that, Nick? That can't be right. Were they running lawn supplies? Was he carb loading? It doesn't sound right, Tom. There wasn't enough air. How could he run? Look, don't shoot the messenger. If anyone wants to contact us and let us know, that is indeed nonsense, then we're all ears.
00:11:51
Speaker
One each week should be verifiable nonsense. How long is the mine? I'm so baffled. Someone needs to get in touch and tell us. It just seems unlikely. I guess we'd have to do laps maybe.
00:12:07
Speaker
out and back. The mines go a long way. Some of those mines are very, very long. I imagined it'd be a really small one and it'd just be annoying every whole time. I think if we were all trapped in a mine, you would try and carry on training, wouldn't you? Yeah.
00:12:22
Speaker
Oh, Nick would, yeah. He would be annoying. He'd be doing intervals and all sorts. We have a lot of time. He actually sounds fantastic. We would kill you first and you would be gone first because that would be unbearable, wouldn't it? It would be the running guy or the guy who kept talking about the dog. But who would be going first? Yes, that's true. That's true. So yeah, another one of those fantastic facts coming up very soon. Running facts!
00:12:49
Speaker
Okay, so July has been, there's been a few things happening over July in the world of running. We've had,
00:12:56
Speaker
world athletics, obviously going on, lots of people talking about the world athletics. Tamarat Tola, apparently won the marathon, but what shoe was he wearing, Nick? I was in the Adios Pro 2, I was watching this live on a few events, that was a good time for us here, and I was going, it's one of those ones where I think it's quite common actually with athletes, they use the previous generation shoe, especially if it's just been launched. So obviously the Adios Pro 3 came out a few months ago, but he was in the Adios Pro 2, which
00:13:21
Speaker
It's a light issue. There's maybe a case here. The pros might prefer it. It's a little bit less stable than the new one, but they also don't need much stability as pros. But often, I think there's a lot of superstition. If you spend your whole year training in one shoe, then you end up using that shoe for the actual marathon. I think it was the same. The AlphaFly 1 was used much more than the AlphaFly 2 at the race. There's actually also sometimes a question of availability with elite athletes, which I think is hard to believe sometimes. But we know, as far as playing for the athletes, you can't get the latest shoes sometimes. They're not actually going their way, unless you're the top elite like Kipcho, but obviously, he's getting them.
00:13:51
Speaker
But yeah, so there is a bit of accessibility, but yeah, I guess it must have just been a, I've trained in the Adios Pro 2, I love it. And there's lots, obviously the vapor flow was the most popular optional round, even though that's not a new shoe. So it's a fair amount of superstition among elites. But yeah, it was interesting to see that I thought that there was no Adios Pro 3s up on the top there, it was the Adios Pro 2.
00:14:07
Speaker
Would you have gone for the three or the two, Nick? Oh, for a marathon, I'd probably lean the three just because I have some slight forfeit discomfort in the two over about 15 miles I found in runs. And the three is very, very comfortable. And since I'd been running about 30 minutes behind all the people in the race, it might have been good to have a nice comfortable shoe. All right, well, more race news. We've got Alish McColgan is making a marathon debut at London this year, which is exciting.
00:14:39
Speaker
What time do we think? What do we think she'll do? I think she can be very quick. Let's just get injured. First big build up, obviously. I reckon she'll be sub 220 comfortably and I wouldn't be surprised if she's after Paula's record at some point quite soon. British record though. That'll be exciting. Very exciting. Okay. An outrageous running style though. It's obviously looks fantastic. It's very flowing. It's very graceful, but man, it just makes my Achilles wince when I see her run. I wonder if she's gonna get injured.
00:15:04
Speaker
Yeah, most people wince at your running style, don't they? Yeah, but it's bulletproof because I just shuffle it. If you take that many steps, you basically can't get injured because you're very rarely in the air.
00:15:15
Speaker
All right, well, from more conventional racing to ridiculous ultra marathons, Kieran would be our usual person to chat about this, but the Badwater 135 has just happened. You know anything about this race, you guys? Jay, you must have written about this race a few times. Yeah, I've written about it. I didn't thumb my cup of tea, but I give... Why isn't Kieran doing that? Why is he doing this Danube thing? Why hasn't he done that? Not Badwater, I think.
00:15:41
Speaker
I've run stretches of that course actually on a trip, press trip once through Death Valley. It's hot, certainly hot. It's a lot of elevation as well, isn't it? Yeah, so early on you don't do too much. I think that's obviously coming out of the valley, I guess is where that, it's loads of elevation and you go quite high up, you know, some mountains. But early on, you're obviously at the lowest point, I guess, like it's below sea level or something stupid like that. And it is like,
00:16:09
Speaker
I think it was a cloudy day there when I was there and it was still, you know, into the 40 degrees and it didn't feel very good to run in. Well, it says in my notes that it could go up to 54 degrees Celsius.
00:16:21
Speaker
Just similar to the training that we've been doing over the past week in the UK. A lot of people doing park runs in similar conditions. Cool, so that was won by Yoshihiko Ishikawa from Japan. He did 23 hours, 8 minutes and 20 seconds, which sounds ridiculous.
00:16:43
Speaker
And Ashley Paulson did it in 24 hours, 9 minutes and 34 seconds. A big shout out to Debbie Martins-Gonzani, who's a very cool runner from Scotland. And I think it's extra hard if you're from Scotland to go run that race. You're not used to that, you're not a climber. You're not used to the sun, are you? She did it pretty well.
New Balance Super Comp Trainer Review
00:17:05
Speaker
Cool, okay, and then the only other thing I've got on here for things happening is a shoe, an interesting shoe, which we'll talk about a little bit later, the New Balance Super Comp Trainer, which is popping up quite a bit in the news at the moment. Jane, you've not got this, have you?
00:17:19
Speaker
I've not, but the second Nick put it on his Instagram, I was like, that shoe is made for me. So why have you got it? It's definitely a Jane shoe. It's 100% a Jane shoe. I will be emailing New Balance as soon as I finish this podcast and getting it. It looks perfect for me. You can be a lot taller for one. That's exciting. Exactly. That's why I'm wearing it. Love a flat form. Especially the Invincible Plus. It's absolutely absurd, this shoe. How did it compare to my all-time favorite shoe in the world?
00:17:47
Speaker
It's bouncier. It's like the only soft and bouncier shit. It's so soft and bouncy. I'm glad we recorded it, so you'll have that intake of breath on the video as well as recording. Yeah. Into our first run review, change audible guard. I mean, is it lunatic? I can't wait. Massive cutout. We'll talk a little bit more about this in the different gear section of the podcast, but I'll just do another running fact. I know you're desperate. It's getting really important. I'm waiting. Running facts. Running facts.
00:18:17
Speaker
This is another interesting one, which again, not verified in any way. Apparently you can be up to half an inch shorter after you run a marathon as the disc in your back actually leak water and become shorter under the repetitive strain of around 50,000 steps. I've heard this. But it goes back to normal afterwards, so not a major issue. You pop all the fluid back in your spine. Yeah, I've never heard, it sounds like quite a lot.
00:18:46
Speaker
How much was it an inch? Half an inch. Half an inch. I could believe that. Yeah, I imagine it's because people are stupid afterwards and they're not walking properly. Everyone just looks a little bit shorter. I'm very quickly over an inch shorter after a marathon I take off a pair of super shoes. I'm not sure that's what the fact is about. Not quite an interesting effect if you take your shoes off. Yeah.
00:19:13
Speaker
Okay, that's a wonderful fact there another one of those coming up later
00:19:23
Speaker
Okay, so let's delve into some kit guys. We're into the different gear section of the podcast where we talk about lots of the stuff we've been testing over the past month. And there's been some interesting things that we will had access to over the past month. We're doing a lot of running, a lot of trying out new running shoes. Let's start with the, probably the biggest shoe and the one that we all know quite a bit about, the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3. Jane, this is a Jane shoe, I presume.
00:19:50
Speaker
100%. I absolutely loved it. You know what, I've never, the Pro 2, I didn't get it. Like, I remember Kieran talking about it and I was like, you're mad. It's awful. I found it really unstable, really like, just, there wasn't anything to it. And when the Pro 3 arrives, I thought, one, I like it because it's pink, which I know
00:20:10
Speaker
It's really awful of me, isn't it, to say that. But I thought, this looks good. And I love it. Absolutely love it. I think I would have to choose between that and the Vaporfly now for a marathon. I think it's absolutely brilliant. But am I alone in that? I haven't heard your- That's terrible, she. No, you're not alone. I think we're massive, massive fans of the Pro 3 all round. I think it's- It's fantastic.
00:20:35
Speaker
I've never seen such a comprehensively successful update to a shoe. I like the Pro 2. I thought it was fun. If you're running well, it was really nice roll to it. It was a bit firm at times, but I thought it was really good. And this is just, you know, better. It's softer, you know, bouncier, lighter, better upper.
00:20:51
Speaker
better outsole even. It's even got more traction. It's phenomenal. It's going right up there for me. I think I like it more than any other shoes not made by Nike for sure. It's just whether it would actually take on the Nikes is the question. It's actually one of the cheaper ones. £210 is not cheap, but it's cheaper than most other ones. I'd buy it ahead of the Metaspeed shoes.
00:21:10
Speaker
Yeah, it's pretty awesome. It's the same price as this, you know, with a trainer. So that's pretty mad. Yeah, I think the only thought I've heard about it is that is that pink upper stained socks. So I don't wear white socks with it.
00:21:27
Speaker
disappointing people wear white socks that video's not actually oh that video should be up by the time this podcast goes out so yeah yeah don't wear white socks with it wear pink socks or blue socks or any other color but but they did you know what it did come out in the wash so no problems here take it back
00:21:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, I absolutely love it. I actually think I was massively surprised because I really didn't like the Pro 2, just didn't enjoy it at all. Just far too firm, I did a race in it just by the end of it. I just didn't like that in one bit. Yeah, so I wasn't really expecting a lot with the Pro 3 and then as soon as I tried it, I was like, what is this shoe? It's almost like they shouldn't have called it the Pro 3, they should have called it something else because it's not the successor to the Pro 2, it's like a completely different shoe. And I'm thinking that
00:22:14
Speaker
i'm gonna use that for chicago at the moment that's my current top shoe for chicago i'm almost ever since you told me that my car problems might be slightly due to the vapor flight nick i've been quite wary about wearing the paper flights i've been desperate for a shoot to come along that i like as much did i say that oh i didn't i was probably just trying to get in your head i don't really don't believe it what it kind of works
00:22:33
Speaker
Because three times I've been quite badly injured, I was wearing the vapor fly in races. Oh, I probably just said yeah, then. Yeah, maybe. Because, well, wow, I didn't. And that was Alpha Fly. And every time I raced in... How did it feel? How did it feel to when Nick got into your head about a shoe? He didn't get into my head about a shoe. He just for once said something that was actually Sage. And I listened to it. What a damning verdict on my life once I said something Sage. All I say is Sage.
00:23:01
Speaker
Well, yeah, I'm not sure about that. But yeah. I actually got the Endorphin before we moved on. But you know, there's like another one coming, the Endorphin Elite next year. I did not know that. Which I think we saw some, it's not reminding me this today, some mad leaks of it. I think it's like decoupled. It looks even bigger and madder. So maybe that'll be even more fun. Wow. If it's Elite, does that sound like it's going to be focusing on more lightweight?
00:23:24
Speaker
It just looks, again, you're right when you say something, they shouldn't be using the Endorphin line name on it almost, because that also looks completely different to everything else, but a bit of fun on it. All right, well, big thumbs up to the Saucony Endorphin Pro 3, which, and I've said it many times, this is, I think this is Saucony's year, I think they've really pulled out of the bag, and every shoe that I try from them is just great. But let's move on from Saucony for now and talk about
00:23:50
Speaker
Perhaps a less interesting shoe, but not one that's any less popular over its history. The Nike Zoomfly 5. Now, Nick, you're the only one who's tested this, aren't you? Yeah, I always find it one of the most interesting shoe lines going, because it started off pretty exciting. It was the other shoe to the Vaporfly. And then they kind of sold a lot of shoes based on that and had a complaint in the second edition. And then it was quite good. And then it's just become like one of the most... A lot of people just don't like this shoe. And it's just become heavier and heavier and heavier and less exciting.
00:24:18
Speaker
it's basically the whole time everybody's been going well it's an easy fix for Nike because they got rid of the Pegasus Turbo, everyone's favorite shoe in the world and kept the Zoomfly 5 instead and it was like okay just put ZoomX foam in the Zoomfly 5 with a plate it will be and make it you know a bit more stable than the Vaporfly and you've got a fantastic shoe you know an amazing training shoe
00:24:33
Speaker
And they finally added ZoomX for him to the shoe this year and they also added another phone and it's now gone up in wait even further and I just I don't know why it's quite simple, but it's not a running shoe geek shoe basically because anyone who knows a lot about shoes would just buy the endorphin speed or so a lots of other you know, Plated training shoes. It's not at all fast. It's very heavy I've enjoyed it for a couple of easy runs, but you know, there are a lot of shoes you can use for easy runs and
00:24:57
Speaker
I just don't get it as a shoe lawyer, I have to say. If you just try it in isolation, it's probably quite good. But I think they're just setting a lot on the idea that it's a plated shoe, but it's much cheaper than the Vaporfly, but it's nothing like those shoes. It's much more akin to the Hoka Bondi X, something like that, for example. And I used the New Balance Super Comp Trainer either side of the Zoom. Obviously, it's a bit unfair because this has got an illegally high stack, but they're both training shoes. And I had to pull the Zoom Fly on today instead of this, and I was just getting like,
00:25:24
Speaker
You know, I don't want to pull this on the head of the Supercar. This is so much bouncy and more exciting, lively. And despite the fact it's this big is the same weight or slightly lighter than the Zoom Fly. Yeah, here's a fun running fact, actually. The Zoom Fly, my two shoes, 20-gram difference in weight across the two shoes. Absolutely no idea what's happening there. I'd love to know how the... The left and the right.
00:25:44
Speaker
Yeah, yeah, 20 grams difference. Almost 10% is, well, not almost 10% because it's such a heavy shoe, but a lot of percent for difference. I often choose always slightly different amounts, obviously, and the Alfa Fly was about, I think, five, seven grams difference, but 20 grams is mad, right? Are you sure they're the same size? I didn't actually check, but yeah, I mean, they fit my feet the same way. I thought you just dropped a really big rock. Are you sure they're not stuck in them?
00:26:11
Speaker
I actually checked out of the box that I hadn't just left, you know, loads of, you know, the stuff they pack inside shoes. I kept checking for that. I was going, well, no, Nick, you've worn these shoes, so you'd have noticed if that was in there. Yeah, bizarre line. It's not popular. It's yeah, I just, but it is also very popular.
00:26:27
Speaker
It was an exciting line when the only shoe that existed was the vaporfly, the only carbon plate shoe, and then you had the zoom fly because most people wouldn't buy the vaporfly because it was so expensive in comparison and so they'd buy the zoom fly. But the last one I tried was the zoom fly 3 and I didn't mind it. But by that point, they were just better shoes out that were at the same price or cheaper.
00:26:49
Speaker
I think I wore the two maybe for the Berlin Marathon. I think it was interesting. I know I make interesting decisions. I liked it. I was a big fan. I haven't, I haven't tried it since. So this is a boring point for
00:27:07
Speaker
What we're talking about. The two was good. But I liked it. The two was the last good one. I'd say. Was that the one? Because Nick, you won that trip, weren't you? The San Moritz trip. Whatever one we got in that one, I wore that to Berlin. No, we got the three there. We got the three there. I wore the three. I wore the three to Berlin. The two was weird because they changed it to React 4 in the midsole. But it had a plate. Because the first one had never played. It didn't have a carbon plate, in a way. And I used it for a half shot. I loved it. It was lightweight, really tippy racing shoe. And at the time, you know, it was just, I can't get it. You couldn't get the vape. Even if you wanted to spend the money, you couldn't buy the vape. It was never in stock.
00:27:37
Speaker
And then the two was really bottom heavy, but still quite light overall, which is a really lightweight upper and a massive stack of quite heavy phones. It was a bit weird on the foot, but it was still a good shoe. And then it's just got a bit worse and worse and worse. But there was a time I remember thinking, Oh, I had the zoom flying test. I went, okay, brilliant. I don't need to worry about the vape fly. I've got my marathon racing shoe here. You know, you could consider it in that bracket. And now it's, you know, it's the worst, the slowest of all the complex, except maybe the Hoka Bondi X. That is a worse shoe.
00:28:06
Speaker
All right, that's plenty on the Zoom Fly 5. Let's talk about, there's a brand that we don't normally talk about very often on the run testers because it's not a brand that really, and it does running stuff, but it's not, perhaps not safe to say, it's not the most exciting running stuff when it comes to shoes and things like that. But Blue Lemon, the charge feel and rest feel releases. I don't know hardly anything about this, James. So you,
00:28:32
Speaker
What is this? The charge feel is they launched the Bliss feel, which is a running shoe. This is a slightly strange idea where it's like people don't want to buy a running shoe and a shoe to wear to the gym. So we're going to make both. I'm not sure. I'm not sure about it. It's basically the same as the running shoe, but they've taken foam out of the heel.
00:28:59
Speaker
for this shoe because if you're obviously wearing a shoe in the gym, you want to be more grounded.
00:29:03
Speaker
I just don't know. And this is the charge feel. Yeah. And the rest feel is a slider, which I love. Love the slider here for a slider. Absolutely love a slider, don't I? But the, yeah, I'm just not sure. I'm not sure what brands think people want on the market. Do you know what I mean? I don't know where, I don't know. I think Lululemon had such potential to make such great shoes because they kind of, do you know what they're doing with Kip? I'm a bit like, what is this shoe for?
00:29:32
Speaker
But that is my first impression of it, and I might be wrong. I might love it in a few weeks, but right now I'm a bit like... It's becoming a bit of a common thing these days, isn't it? We had the Hoka Kawana that came out, which was meant to be like a gym shoe that can be used for running. But...
00:29:49
Speaker
reality there's a lot of just all right running shoes that can be used for the gym you don't that crossover is it's not yeah i don't think it's a gap i don't think it's what we're all missing do you know what i mean we're not i'm not like damn i can't wear my pegasus to the gym today like do you know what i mean i don't think it's a thing it also depends on like gym is such a vague term like just saying gym is it like what you're doing in the gym that's that's the important bit really you weight lift in you're doing HIIT classes
00:30:15
Speaker
I think it's massively overstated on the basis that you need probably special shoes to do Olympic lifts with the barbell. But if you're going in and picking up your 10 kilo kettlebell like I am, I could do it in any shoes. I could do it in the sliders. I'll take those little sliders. Yeah, take them, honestly. Buy them if you can. Buy them, because they are great. They're like walking on a cloud. But the other shoes, I'm not sure. Not sure. But then maybe I'll get really into the gym and I'll find a shoe. I'll realize what I've been missing. But right now, I'm a bit like, why are brands doing this?
00:30:43
Speaker
Where do they, why have they invented this thing that isn't a problem? Well, I go to the gym a lot and do a lot of different things at the gym. I always use like Nike infinities, something like that. Just fine, bit of, fairly stable. It doesn't really matter. I could use vapor flies in the gym for most things I'm doing to just be a little bit wobbly. All right, let's jump into another running facts. Running facts.
00:31:10
Speaker
because Nick's getting a bit excited. I can see he's desperate for it. Back to the 10 minutes where I quit the podcast in my contract. So runners who wear red clothing are more likely to win because a study proved that the colour red signals dominance and higher testosterone levels. I can't believe that.
00:31:28
Speaker
And that sounds pretty spot on. There was a big thing in football for a while where goalkeepers were all orange because it made them appear bigger to strikers in one on one situations. But again, I seem to have died out because it probably wasn't true, was it? But they sold a lot of kits.
00:31:45
Speaker
If this fact had anything to do with turquoise, Nick would be on it. It's just red. Oh yeah, yeah. Turquoise teal, I'll wear. I think that exerts quite a lot of dominance when I wear my teal headband. Yeah, if it was like runners that wear headbands, Nick would be there for it. It's because you don't like red, doesn't it, Nick? Yeah, I don't like red, no, because I'm a Spurs fan, so red's not good. But in a headband news, Jay, I told Thomas already, I'm getting a headband with built-in speakers for sleeping and running, and I could not be more excited.
00:32:12
Speaker
He told me like he was about to tell me he was about to have another kid or something. The news was that big. Are you sitting down?
00:32:22
Speaker
You're going to sleep and run in it. You're just going to wear it 24. Well, I think, I mean, I like listening to things as I drop off and all the sleep headphones don't work because I'm a side sleeper and I think I have quite small ears. So a headband might work better, but it's washable. So I'm up for trying it for a ride. I mean, in probably, I don't really mind wearing headphones on the run with a headband, so I don't really feel the need. It's more sleeping, but I'm excited all round. It's not a headband in my life and I'm excited.
00:32:46
Speaker
I'm really happy for you. You are. I'm so excited about this headband. Okay, let's stop talking about headbands now, because we'll do a special podcast on headbands at some point, which you can do on your own, Nick. Let's burn through some of the final bits we've got. So Speed3, we've been testing this quite a lot. Jane, you've tested this? The Zucchini worm. Yeah. Yeah, don't like it. Wow, this is interesting. Jane, kit us, why don't you like it?
00:33:15
Speaker
I've just tried to like it and I just, I find it fits really uncomfortably across the top of my foot. I just, I can't, I feel like it's not got, I don't know. I think because I tried the Endorphin Pro 3 and I was like, oh my God, this is an incredible shoe. And then I put the speed on and I was like, this is just not.
00:33:33
Speaker
What is this? I just don't like it. It's not a Jane's shoe, is it? Not a Jane's shoe. I feel like it's firm, it's flat, it's uncomfortable. I'm not a fan. Nick, I'm wondering if we make like a badge to put on videos. Like Jane's shoe. Jane improves. I mean, we say we make it, you're going to have to make that, Tom.
00:33:55
Speaker
You know what I have I keep going back to the keep thinking I know they're gonna they're gonna tell me that I'm wrong So keep going back and trying to like it and I just something about it Doesn't I think also it comes up really small? I think maybe if I need a half a size bigger am I alone in that?
00:34:11
Speaker
Your face is telling me I am. I find it's fine in the toe box, it's a bit big at the heel. But I do think it's a problem for the speed this year in that I like it a bit less just because the Pro 3 is so good. And I do think they could have max stacked the speed as well. It was softer than the Pro in the previous versions and now obviously the Pro is full stack, you know, big dog.
00:34:32
Speaker
So, you know, it is a lot cheaper than the Pro, but yeah, it is a bit, it's weird. I mean, the speed hasn't really changed in terms of how much I like it. I don't think it does the right. I don't like it as much because it does rub my heel, but I like it less because, so can you release another shoe with it, but I like more, which is a very silly way to look at it. Yeah, I wonder if you've never given me the Pro 3, I'd probably be like, this is okay. But because I've tried the other one first, I'm like, no, it's just not
00:34:56
Speaker
But then I guess you wouldn't train in the pro free, would you? So maybe there is a place for it. Well, I kind of feel like you could just train the pro free. It's that. I've done a lot of training and I did a 22 mile of the day and it's a great training shoe. But you know, it's money, isn't it? But then people seem to like spending money on shoes.
00:35:12
Speaker
I kind of hope that with the Vaporfly and the Outfly, it takes a long time for those shoes to come down in price. But it seems with the Saucony shoes, it doesn't take that long. So maybe in a year's time, people might be able to pick up the Pro 3. Pro 2 now, you can get it for like 80 quid now, can't you? I've seen it ridiculously cheap and it's only a year old. It was cheap on Prime Day.
00:35:36
Speaker
Mm, yeah, yeah. So hopefully that's- And other retailers. So yeah, hopefully in a year's time, that'll be, you could pick a few up as your training shoes and not worry about the wearing them down. A vapor fly is pretty cheap these days to be fair. Finally, yeah. I also think, it's probably the now, it's like when you pick up a training shoe and let it go, nearly everyone who would consider the shoe has an old pair of vapor flies. That is their training shoe.
00:36:00
Speaker
All right, we talked a little about the new balance super comp trainer. Let's do a really quick, Nick gives you the first run in it, haven't you? Yeah, you have as well, right? It's super bouncy, super springy. It was exactly what I did a 30k run on Saturday, you know, workout session and I had an easy one the next day and this shoe arrived and I used it and it was the perfect timing, really comfortable and bouncy. You know, the pace is quite good for effort level, that kind of thing.
00:36:21
Speaker
little bit squiggly. I do like to mess around on my phone in my runs because I like to catch up on messages and stuff like that. Can't do that in the shoe because you need to look where you're putting your feet because otherwise you're going to fall over. But other than that, no real criticism is very fun. How about you? And that's Jane, Jane approves and I haven't even run in it.
00:36:36
Speaker
It is. Well, I do find that I did really enjoy running. I just did a progression run in it. I did find it. I went out too wrong. I'm not very good at progression runs, so I went out too fast. So by the end of it, I was really struggling, but I did find that it wasn't, I don't think it was as conducive to running fast as some of the other shoes that I would wear, like the Fuel Cell TC, which is probably my favorite ever carbon plate training shoe. I still think that's
00:37:02
Speaker
bit faster feels very similar. Actually, I actually when I was in wearing the super comp, I was surprised at how much mid soft foam it had in it because it didn't feel like it was massively different than another shoe that hasn't got that much in it. If you know what I'm saying, it was very comfortable. I've been enjoying it. But I just it just seems like it's unnecessary to put that much in it.
00:37:22
Speaker
I kind of think the two point I have with it is that one, the TC I think is one of the most underrated shoes ever and why New Balance didn't make more of an effort to promote that shoe I never understand because there's even a point when, has it been a kind of the New Balance marathon that used it for like the Olympic trials and obviously he had access to the RC elite but he used the TC elite, the TC. So you know, it's a fantastic shoe. But yeah, what surprised me about this is like, I thought I was gonna be a fast training shoe at the car and play. This is very squarely a daily training shoe designed for cruising. It's not, you know, you probably can do some speed and tempo work but
00:37:52
Speaker
It's just amazing to me that they've come out of a shoe that looks like this and it's so expensive. No, this is just bobbing around in your daily training. It makes that feel really fun. It does, but has the market changed that much that you can charge £210 for a shoe just to do that? Maybe. It seems like it. We'll have a first run in that up probably before this podcast goes out actually. You'll hear all their thoughts on that and Jane will be getting very jealous as she watches that. A few of them.
00:38:19
Speaker
The last product we've got on here, we'll do a quick one of this, Amazfit T-Rex II. I've got no idea about this, so quick rundown on what this is, Nick. Well, this is Amazfit, or I always call them Amazfit, which is wrong, I think. I very much, my ex-brand, Mike knows all about these, and I don't, you know, dip into their range too much, because it's too confusing. And it's literally my living to know about these watches, and they're too confusing for me. But by the time you finish a review, they've released four more. But I think the T-Rex II is worth flagging up, because it's really cheap. It's like 200 and something low quid.
00:38:47
Speaker
And it's genuinely a very, very good sports watch. It's not that smart, but it's got a nice AMOLED screen. It's got dual-band GPS. That's actually good dual-band GPS because Huawei do this and their dual-band GPS isn't very good, but the AMA's fit was matching up very well to an ethics tool in most of my runs. Yeah, really impressive bit of kit with quite a rugged build, but a bright screen. I think it will tick a lot of boxes for people. And although it's not a brand that
00:39:08
Speaker
you know, it's quite a hard brand to get into because they are so confusing. They have too many watches, there's three T-Rexes and there's only one T-Rex actual dinosaur. They didn't confuse matters there, did they? Or three of them. But yeah, it's baffling. But it is a really good watch. And when we have the review, listen to Mike mainly because he knows all about all these watches. And I've just tested this and I thought it was really good. So I thought it was worth flagging up as another cheap option.
00:39:29
Speaker
Yeah, certainly seems to be, I always know about Amazfit because of Mike. I don't, but this is the first Amazfit watch I've really seen sort of pick up in the world of social media and stuff. It actually seems to be getting a bit of momentum behind it with people buying it. So yeah, Mike will be, yeah, watch out for Mike's coverage of that. Don't listen to us about it. Cool. Okay.
00:39:57
Speaker
Right, we're through to the question and answer section where the listeners or viewers of the videos can send us questions in and we attempt to give us our best answer for them. Now, some of these are questions that we just haven't answered from people and we do get a lot of questions on the YouTube channel and
00:40:16
Speaker
quite often we don't have time to answer them so this is an opportunity to sort of hit those ones that we've missed over that time so let's go through some questions that I've rifled through and found Jamie Higgins he said hi absolutely love the first podcast cheers Jamie he says he's got a question for us
00:40:31
Speaker
What's the most stable marathon race day shoe? He's an over-renator and is looking for something not necessarily to go super fast in, but something just to keep his legs turning over nicely. He thinks the indulging speed might be a front runner at the moment, but really he's just looking for a stable option for marathon race day. What are you thinking?
00:40:49
Speaker
I've had this discussion with a friend who's got this exact problem. I've let him try all these. It's a similar size. He's been trying all my shoes, all my super shoes. And he basically said, couldn't really get on with them. Like he loved them. They felt good. But the only ones that were stable weren't like kind of that super, if you know what I mean? So like the bricks I can leak two is a bit more stable, but yeah, the endorphins B3 would be a good option. It is more stable than the previous versions. It's a bit wider and it's still pretty rapid. But all the other ones can be a little bit wobbly.
00:41:14
Speaker
Not this. Not the trainer, but definitely don't wear that if you're planning on winning a race because you won't be allowed to. Okay, so Michi runs. He says, for someone who runs neutral finds the base of the 1080 v12 and ride 15 to be fine. Actually, Jane, you can have this one. Would you say the invincible would be too unstable or could it be workable?
00:41:38
Speaker
workable, especially in the wild. No, it is. I knew a lot of running in the Invincible. I put the 1080 on for my long run. I did about 12 miles yesterday, the day before, and they're similar. The Invincible is definitely bouncier, but I guess that's probably what you want, isn't it, for a marathon, for a long run. I found when I put the 1080 on, I was like, oh, this is a similar experience. I think you could
00:42:04
Speaker
Definitely make that move. I try and do the Invincibles PR, but I'm not paid for it. So don't come at me if you hate it. I'd say it's closer to the 1080v12 to an extent. I think it's quite far off the Ride 15 because that is... 100%. 100%. Sorry, if you're... Mitchie runs, if you're listening to this and you're thinking the Ride 15 is your focus, it is quite a different shoe. But 1080v12, it's a little bit closer, but still a little bit bouncier and a little bit wobbly, I'd say.
00:42:33
Speaker
Okay, then another guy who I didn't get the name of. This is a good question. This is a discussion discussion point, really. Which shoe is best for beat test training?
00:42:42
Speaker
And this was from your video, Nick, that you were doing the low stack. I think this must be a time of year when people have to do a lot of these tests for the police or the military or something to get a little run of these questions. Apparently you're not allowed to do them in schools and stuff anymore because it's too dangerous. It is pretty intense. I did it back to back once, school once, just for a laugh. Did you win at school?
00:43:08
Speaker
I did, yeah, I was a runner, but I think I did. Yeah, I did win. Get a mad gem. Don't get him involved in this. He'll start banging all about what his times were. I can't remember my scores, but no. I've done it once since, actually. I did it once at the jockey for a feature. I was writing about the fitness things that jockeys have to do. I know that one of the, and there was like a fitness test there, and one of the part of it was the bleep test. The only time I've done it since. And also during that, I had to try and hold a plank for four minutes, which I didn't do. I did it quite a long time. Not four minutes. But I got a cold, a great story about,
00:43:37
Speaker
Who's that cyclist? The really fast cyclist, Victoria Pendleton. A little bit crazy, a little bit too intense. So she did this plank test and failed after two and a half, three minutes. And she went, no, I'm going to do it again. I went, well, there's no way you can do it well because you've just done a plank for three minutes. And she just did it for four minutes. She was that intense. She was so spacious. Anyway, yeah, big test. One of those low stack shoes is good. I'd get the Takimi Sen or the New Balance Supercom Pacer. Excellent.
00:44:03
Speaker
Okay, Daniel Gurman. Hock-a-mack five or speed twos for interval sessions? I'm not paying £165 for speed threes. There you go. Speed twos in there. I'd say speed twos as well.
00:44:17
Speaker
Welcome back to Lovely, though, but Speed 2's got more top-end pace, I reckon. I did just do an interval session in the Mach 5, and I did go quite hard, and it was fine. I really enjoyed it, but I would have preferred to be wearing the speeds. They're both really good options. I think the Mach strength is probably more really long runs and a good pace, but you're not going to be slow in either. It's probably first. Okay. Oh, let's just quickly throw in a running fact. Running facts.
00:44:45
Speaker
I've got another one down here and I can tell Jane's really getting into these things. Don't waste it. You don't want to waste it, do you? This is actually not a very good running fact. I don't think it really means a lot, but the average exercise life, I don't know what that means, of a running shoe is 644 kilometres. That's made up. 10 miles. Yeah. Well, I don't know how they'd work that out. It's a high 300, isn't it, in miles? Yeah, 380.
00:45:09
Speaker
I mean, this is some very low low key. How would you average it? What are they average? Yeah, exercise life, including walking. Who knows? That's low, that's low, isn't it? I'd be pretty annoyed if, well, that's what, 400 and something miles. Depends on the exercises, doesn't it? If it's scuba diving, then yeah, it's going to wear through it pretty quickly. Well, yeah, it's not designed for that.
00:45:33
Speaker
All right, well, okay, that's the last running fact today, so. And not on low point. Okay, I was gonna say this one's for you, Jane, but it's not because you don't know the other shoe. Peter Miaskov, he says, how does the Nike Invincible 2 compare against the more V3? Like Jane can answer it. It's better than any shoe. It's the best shoe in the world. It's the best shoe ever. Desert Island shoes. I'm picking that.
00:46:00
Speaker
I would say more V3 is just because it's a high-causing shoe, it doesn't feel like the Invincible 2. It doesn't have any bounds to it. It's just sort of a balanced mid-cell phone where if you try the 1080V, 10, 11, 12, it's like that, but just a little bit more padding. So it feels a lot more stable than the Invincible, but it's not as enjoyable.
00:46:23
Speaker
I get no enjoyment from the Morvee 3. Nothing is. No enjoyment at all. It's like your favourite shoe for like a year and a half. No enjoyment. Well, I'm going to have a long run, so I'm not thinking I want a shoe that makes me happy. I just want a shoe that I don't think about. Why not? You deserve to be happy. You need to be happy. Yeah, I'll just go and have a beer afterwards. That's my enjoyment. But yeah, the Morvee 3 is not a particularly amazingly bouncy shoe. It's just a good cushioned, relatively stable shoe.
00:46:53
Speaker
Another win for the Invincible. Another day. Another win. You do realise you're not sponsored by the J-pop podcast. We will be. We don't have to be. I do all their prep. I do all their PR. I absolutely love that shoe. Did you know that? Did I tell that? Have I mentioned that? Well, I'm going to edit out every mention of I love that shoe from the podcast. Take it down by about 15 minutes.
00:47:18
Speaker
Roberto Muniz Ferreira, he says, Alpha Fly 2 versus a Dorphin Pro 3. Well, interestingly, this is a video that we will have up soon, but... Is it? I've got to do this video, haven't I? Yeah. Fair enough. You're the only one that can, but I'm sure you are going to do it, aren't you? Yeah, that's a really tough one. Really tough one. I've got both. There we go. You'll be better at answering, but I have got both.
00:47:42
Speaker
There we go, Jane'll be in it. If it's not invincible, she's not bothered, Nick can answer it. Yeah, that's interesting. Are we saying what we'd pick? Yeah, give a sneak preview, what would you pick?
00:47:54
Speaker
It's so hard. The Alphaly's an absolute machine in a straight line at high pace, I have to say. It's really hard. I have raised twice in the Alphaly. It's Pro, I think, because it's so much cheaper and it's lighter, it'd probably be a bit more versatile. I think it would suit a lot more people pretty happily. The Alphaly's quite built for purpose. It really does need those long straights to really power house down. So yeah, I would have no problem picking the Endorphin Pro. Sorry. Even if maybe for your big one off marathon, the Alphaly probably might edge. I don't know.
00:48:24
Speaker
exciting okay last question then tony lovers which is better the tecton the hoka tecton x or the sock any edge uh tecton x on me so far but i ain't done two runs in the edge so i need to do some faster stuff in it but i think it's nimbler lighter i found it a bit better generally hmm thank you tom uh i'm varying towards the edge at the moment i really enjoyed a run i had i didn't it the other day but not not massively i don't i've not done enough running in it to really give it a proper
00:48:53
Speaker
viewpoint. So I like them both at the moment. So I wouldn't like to say. I'd say my main come down is I still don't think complex shoes on the trails that necessary. I still prefer a lighter shoe to racing because yeah. Yeah. It's supposed to depends what trails, isn't it? Very much so. If it's basically like a road, just use a road car machine.
00:49:12
Speaker
Well, yeah, that's true. Cool. Okay, so that'll do for questions this week. Let's just finish up with anything we've got coming up on the channel over the next month. So what's coming up over August, Nick? Your big video, the big running shoe guide is coming. Tom's baby, the massive full list voiceover. Oh, you're helping me out on it.
00:49:31
Speaker
Ah, I'll help fuck me if I face it. I'm too busy doing this alpha fly versus pro video you've got me down for. Oh yeah. If you can hurry up with that, I'd be much appreciated. Yes, we have the big running shoe guide, which has around 25 to 30 shoes in it. The best shoes that we as the run testers have picked as being the top three and other ones worth mentioning. So this will have every road shoe in that we think is worth mentioning.
00:49:56
Speaker
at the moment and worth picking up. So as well as that, we've also got your baby, Nick. Best Davey trainers. Best Davey trainers. Yeah. I can actually use his podcast as a vehicle to tell both Tom and Jane to fill out the sheet so we can carry off that video at some point. Yeah. New late entrance actually into the conversation has to be said. Oh yeah. Yeah. But yeah, no, that's coming. That will all pick a one. I can think I can fill in Jane's for her.
00:50:27
Speaker
We all get one veto and we all pick the invincible weird It's gonna be that super cold moment she hasn't got it Look how big it is Cool so I don't think there's anything else coming up is there worth worth mentioning
00:50:52
Speaker
There's lots of good stuff coming up. Yeah, don't do us down, Tom. Lots of reviews coming up and the usual, we'll get the latest shoes as soon as we can.
00:51:07
Speaker
Yeah, other than that, I think if you want to contact us, then email us at team at TheRunTesters.com, whether you've got a question or comment about podcasts, or you can find us at TheRunTesters on Instagram, where we occasionally update you on the reviews and the shoes that we're currently covering and on YouTube at TheRunTesters, where you can find all of our videos.
00:51:31
Speaker
So thanks a lot for listening or watching and we'll see you next time. Catch you later guys.