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Division Round Recap and National Championship Preview
22 Plays3 months ago
The boys break down the action from the weekend including some very fun Divisional round games where the Commanders took down the Lions , the Chiefs are rolling into the Conference Championship, the Eagles survive against the Rams, and Josh Allen and the Bills defeat the Ravens. They also discuss the national championship game and give some predictions.
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Transcript
Intro
Introduction and Mason's absence
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome back to the next guy podcast. Uh, it is just me and tens today. Mason off on his anniversary trip to the promise.
00:00:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
two to to the most magical place on earth.
00:00:27
Zack
Uh, yes, I think he's embezzling pod funds for these trips.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Geeberg.
00:00:33
Zack
Personally. so Yeah, I think you're not in the bomb. So I think they're somewhere.
00:00:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know where
NFL Playoffs Overview
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Zack
ah
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
our Pringle sponsorship money went um now that I'm checking the...
00:00:44
Zack
Yeah, it's crazy sponsors and no money from it shout out to Mason up here fun Yeah, Mason is out for today and so we're gonna hold it down We got a lot of football to cover big football good football some fun games
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason, yeah, you're under investigation though when you get back.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
good football, some very fun NFL playoffs. This is you know this is why we won get up on Sunday morning at 9 a.m. and watch Panthers, Giants, and Germany.
00:01:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's for games like this weekend. We've had some instant classics. but It's been a good, yeah, definitely lost some bets.
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Zack
b awesomeo bit
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That that comes with the territory. um
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Zack
We'll get there.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But we we'll get there. We always come back for what they stole from us.
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Zack
Yeah, we're we' so as we record, we are in the middle of the bills Ravens game. So we have that kind of in the background here. So we maybe we'll give some ah some live updates as we go.
00:01:43
Zack
Spoiler alert, we're on the bills pretty heavy. So go bills.
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Zack
We had some fun games yesterday, though, as well.
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Zack
Do we do we want to jump into games? How we feeling tens?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, we can do that.
00:01:58
Zack
What? Now we have a college football tomorrow as well.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Yes.
00:02:02
Zack
We can talk, we can talk through, so.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
we'll we'll talk through kind of give a little bit of a preview of what we're thinking. And then, you know, it's the last game. So we will, ah you know, give our thoughts on what is going on there.
Game Analysis: Texans vs Chiefs
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, no, NFL wise, I think Texans Chiefs, I had to listen to the game I was driving yesterday.
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Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um Pretty uneventful game. It seems like Texans fans and players are pretty quick to go online and start blaming the refs Here's a fun fact for you Texans you let your quarterback get sacked eight times committed four more penalties than the Chiefs ah Gave up three fourth down conversions to the Chiefs missed two extra points and a field goal The rest of making miss those field goals and extra points so
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Zack
Really.
Team Performances and Surprises
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Before we go blaming the refs 100%, you should probably just step up and be a better team.
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Zack
hard to win a game when you get sacked eight times.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:02:59
Zack
I want to make some metrics about that. How many teams win getting sacked eight times?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know of one.
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Zack
You just feel like it's not very good.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know of one, the Bengals did that to the Titans a couple years ago.
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Zack
Oh, gosh.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Because that that started getting thrown around too.
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Zack
You know, that checks out.
00:03:21
Zack
Yeah, that makes sense. it was i did I did catch a good bit of this game, and it was
00:03:31
Zack
I think you're right. It was pretty uneventful. Texans kind of held into it um for longer than I thought they were. ah kind of it was It was pretty competitive through the second half, which I mean, there was not a really a point where I was like, you know, I bet I think CJ Stroud and the boys are pulling this one off.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:03:50
Zack
they' just You never hit that moment, really.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I felt like anytime they started to get some momentum or maybe take a chance to get it back to one score game, the Chiefs just do what they always do. They'd come up with a big sack or, you know, turn right.
00:04:01
Zack
Yeah, as they do.
Rookie Highlights and Critiques
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, it's just it's just what the Chiefs do, man. And when when you're
00:04:06
Zack
There was an ultra spread killer with the safety at the very end, the nine and a half point spread.
00:04:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah yeah shout out if you had the nine and a half that's that's tough that's uh it's always funny ending game stuff like that when you lose a spread that you know you you should have won easily but uh yeah that's a tough way to lose it
00:04:20
Zack
I saw, yeah, I saw some people with that one. Which is funny.
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Zack
up Obtain yeah the last play of the game essentially that's rough But that was there was I Think the much more interesting game happened later on ah Yeah, you're
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. Maybe the game of the year. I don't know, man, it was this commander's team. Boy, are they ahead of schedule.
00:05:02
Zack
ah starting to get into a little bit of like team of destinies type situation they they they feel like that uh they just keep winning yeah and uh they've got the eagles next week which we'll get to but fun team truly pretty fun team to watch a lecture
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh huh. Yep. But they've caught lightning in a bottle. Mm hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I, whoa, I could not have been any more wrong on Jane Daniels. I did not think his style would translate to the NFL. Legitimately, I know I've like done this because I'd like Cliff Kingsbury to be the Jags next coach, but legitimately shout out to him.
00:05:36
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He has built an offense like perfect for Jane Daniels. They, like I've said, they're ahead of schedule. They've got a lot of like veteran one-year deal guys as starters.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um to kind of jumpstart this rebuild under Dan Quinn. like da've They've really got something going here. Jay Daniels is electric. He's the only offensive rookie of the year. He's he's he's he's amazing. like I mean, it's it's really fun to watch him. He makes plays that's like, oh, wow, he shouldn't be making plays like that as a rookie. like Not just running the ball, but throwing. He's so accurate. It's it's been fun to watch.
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Zack
Yeah, very really fun for a rookie. I'm happy for... It feels... It's just interesting that he's the one that works that that's worked out so well. i But i'm I think they're a fun team. It's fun to have someone new in the mix, I think.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
um It's like the Eagles are there who've been there a lot of times and they've been there a bunch Against the commanders is a really interesting matchup with this team. That's super young got this rookie quarterback Yeah
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, 13, you know, divisional rivals played twice. And it's fun to have like this, this really young, good quarterback in the NFC, because you you kind of feel like the AFC is the loaded side when it comes to quarterbacks because of the homes, Lamar, Allen.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then, you know, when you get into the younger guys of like CJ, Herbert, um to, uh, Trevor, like the AFC has always been the really loaded side of the NFC.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like, uh, Jalen hurts and Jared golf. Like that's really what.
00:07:17
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
you know You could throw Dak out there, but Jane Daniels has been elite. And to think, like everyone kept talking about how Caleb Williams was going to land in the most perfect situation for a first overall draft pick. Solid O line, three really good receivers, and Jane Daniels is out here doing what he's doing with a bunch like Noah Brown.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah
Quarterback Comparisons: AFC vs NFC
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Crowder Jonathan Crowder is like one of his starting wide receivers that dude's been in the NFL I remember playing with him on Madden in like 2015 Like guys still just just it's just crazy like they are They are not supposed to be here right now and they are cuz Jane Daniels.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's been fun to watch but poor Lions Yeah
00:08:05
Zack
Yeah, if you look at me, I know. Let's do Lion's Talk. Ben Johnson, you boy.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Yeah, Ben Johnson, you know.
00:08:14
Zack
I need to do. Yeah, let's do the Ben. You want to do the Ben? You want to do the Ben Johnson thing now?
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Sure, I'll do the Johnson thing now. um So apparently Ben Johnson is the favorite now, so I gotta I might have to walk back some stuff.
00:08:21
Zack
OK.
00:08:26
Zack
So if you didn't listen to last episode, Tenz, Ben Johnson but jo number three on the list.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm real hard. Yeah, Ben Johnson was he fell to number three.
00:08:35
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And here's the thing about number three. Is maybe I'm an idiot.
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Zack
and
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was real wrong about Jane Daniels. I was really excited about Urban Meyer right before the season started when he was the coach.
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Zack
and
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I thought ah thought we were going to take over the world once ah Doug Peterson was hired. So maybe it's a good thing i'm a little bit I could be a little bit wrong. Maybe Ben Johnson could be elite.
00:08:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If Ben Johnson is hired because we fired Trent Balke for him, then I'll be hype. But I think My sneaking suspicion of he's kind of a goofball showed itself in this game.
00:09:08
Zack
Hmm. Mm-hmm. Hmm.
00:09:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You're down two scores and you run a trick play with your wide receiver throwing the ball in a very, very critical moment in the fourth quarter. What what is that play call? That was really dumb.
00:09:22
Zack
Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That was...
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Zack
It's the point where if it worked, he would look like a genius.
00:09:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
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Zack
And people would be like, wow, this guy is dialing it up.
00:09:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i I respond.
00:09:31
Zack
Or it doesn't work. You look like an idiot.
00:09:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I responded to some one of my Jags Twitter guys said something and I responded and was like, yeah, I can't wait for all these trick plays that he's going to run in Jacksonville and they're going to end up just like that one every time and we're going to be the laughing stock because it worked with the Lions.
00:09:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's never going to work for us.
00:09:48
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So yeah, I don't know. After last night, it kind i'm I don't want it as much as I did two months ago.
00:09:57
Zack
Mmm. It's tough.
00:10:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But you know, I don't know the Lions. They just I want to feel bad for him.
00:10:08
Zack
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I also don't
Rams' Defense and Future Prospects
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
kind of thing because they're like they're like the Cinderella's everyone Cinderella story and everyone was rooting for him, but I wasn't.
00:10:17
Zack
Mmm. Not tanned.
00:10:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, probably because they started their rebuild the same time as us and we should be where they are, but we're really bad and they're really good.
00:10:27
Zack
Hmm. Huh.
00:10:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're loaded. they I think they'll be okay. They're probably going to lose both their coordinators to head coaching jobs. um I think they'll figure that out and come back strong next year. but NFC like we just talked about Washington.
00:10:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's getting tougher Jane Daniels. You know you would think the Bears will be better with potentially Ben Johnson as a new head coach for Caleb Williams. um So yeah, I mean it's the kind of feels like maybe this was there.
00:10:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This was their best chance.
00:10:59
Zack
Hmm.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And they blew it.
00:11:04
Zack
Just a little more question for you.
00:11:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh-huh.
00:11:07
Zack
If you had if you had to pick today, the true and I know I know you're not going to answer this honestly, but I'm going to ask you anyways.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh boy. I'll answer it honestly.
00:11:17
Zack
If you had a pick, if you were offered Jane Daniels, Trevor Lawrence starting quarterback for the Jacksonville Jaguars next year for the future,
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:11:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Mm hmm. Yeah, no, it's yeah, no, I still think Trevor.
00:11:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I still believe in 24 year old Trevor Lawrence.
00:11:30
Zack
Okay, can you give me your reasoning?
00:11:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've seen what he can do. I, now Jane Daniels is amazing. and i I enjoy watching him, but there's always going to be that factor of him getting injured because he is such a, like he depends on his run ability a lot.
00:11:47
Zack
Sure
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not the biggest guy. um So yeah, that's why I would, um I'd stick with Trevor.
College Football Strategies and Criticisms
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Zack
I think there's an interesting case study that we're going to see of the, which obviously, um, he, Jane James is still playing football right now, but of the CJ Stroud, like sophomore slump where his rookie year was pretty electric as well.
00:12:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:12:12
Zack
Um, and his second year, he took a decent step back for whatever reason.
00:12:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:12:18
Zack
I'm, and who knows, there there's probably lots of reasons, but yeah.
00:12:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
A lot of times it's you. the coordinator start figuring you out, start figuring out your weaknesses, and and you get game planned for. It's hard to game plan for a rookie that you've only seen play in college, and then a you know few games in the NFL.
00:12:28
Zack
Sure.
00:12:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But I don't know, something about Jane Daniels makes me feel like he's he's here to stay.
00:12:42
Zack
You're a known Stroud hater, so.
00:12:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I always have been, even in college. I didn't like CJ Shire on college either.
00:12:51
Zack
Yeah, he did it all season, though. It wasn't like a flash. It doesn't he doesn't feel like a flash in the pan kind of quarterback who did it once. He had like five or six really good games and the rest was kind of just mediocre and know it's enough to make the public opinion pretty high.
00:13:04
Zack
I feel like he's pretty consistent.
00:13:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Yeah. If you, if you truly look at CJ Shroud's rookie year, it's not anything the right home about. Um, he just happened to win the division because the Jaguars choked away an eight and three record.
00:13:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, down the stretch.
00:13:17
Zack
That's it.
00:13:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So, yeah, it was tough, but that is not here nor there.
00:13:19
Zack
It's pretty tough.
00:13:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, also shout out the Texans player coming off the sideline or coming onto the sideline and and shoving his coach and starting a fist fight on the sideline.
00:13:32
Zack
What a weird yeah, what a weird thing that was um Yeah um Jacksonville Jaguars team of integrity
00:13:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
D'Amico Ryan, shout out. You talk about integrity and how much class your your team has, and those aren't the things you coach, you know, after the whole Ashir, whatever his name is, ah incident. It looks like that's what you coach, and that's what you allow on your team. It's a bunch of hotheads who are out here pushing your core your coordinators. Couldn't be my team. I'll tell you that.
00:14:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm just saying.
00:14:02
Zack
Make the t-shirt.
00:14:05
Zack
Okay. Move to today.
00:14:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. i I have fun game, lower scoring, a lot of weird, you know, the, yeah yeah, the weather played a big impact on this game.
00:14:10
Zack
Fun game.
00:14:15
Zack
Snow, very snowy.
00:14:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
In fact, the the Rams just kept fumbling the ball, like on plays that like just dropping the ball.
00:14:23
Zack
Yeah, Matthew Stafford literally just throwing the ball on the ground.
00:14:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Um, but they were in it the whole time.
00:14:31
Zack
It was.
00:14:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, you take away probably one of those turnovers and I think they have a chance to win the game.
00:14:32
Zack
Yeah.
00:14:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um,
00:14:38
Zack
They go down 13 with well like four minutes left and it it really fell over.
00:14:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:42
Zack
I felt like it was done.
00:14:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:14:43
Zack
And boy, it was not done.
00:14:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Boy, was it not.
00:14:45
Zack
I mean, they were right there.
00:14:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shout out Jack Elliott for missing that extra point for all you Rams plus seven holders.
00:14:55
Zack
True. I mean, and they man, it was one play like one play away.
00:15:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know, but think about the the Eagles like their defense is great. Um, their, their past de defense is a little suspect and they lost one of their starting corners today. Um, so that'll be interesting against Washington, but it's like, how far can Saquon Barkley take this Eagles team? Because he, when he had I think oh he was touching 300 total yards of offense today and three touchdowns.
00:15:27
Zack
see
00:15:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, he he was everything and Jalen hurts. and I know it's snowing and the weather was bad, but something's not been right about his throwing for the last four or five weeks.
00:15:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like something's off. um So I don't know I. I'm feeling I'm feeling like Washington's live in this game.
00:15:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like it could be dangerous.
00:15:52
Zack
um
00:15:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It might be might be underdog time.
00:15:55
Zack
I think it's gonna be a fun to be a fun game if you look at the um if you look at the quarterback like play across the championship, the conference championships next week.
00:16:10
Zack
It's going to be Jalen Hertz. It's going to be Patrick Mahomes. It's going to be either Lamar Jackson or Josh Allen. Probably Josh Allen. We're going to speak that into existence.
00:16:21
Zack
They're ahead right now.
00:16:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mhm, might have a.
00:16:23
Zack
You know, random favorites about to score.
00:16:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:16:26
Zack
um Or just did score, in fact.
00:16:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They just scored going for two. If you're waking up Monday morning, you already heard this.
00:16:31
Zack
No good.
00:16:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No good, alright.
00:16:34
Zack
So Buffalo has the lead going into the fourth, probably. um But you look at that landscape. I mean, you're talking about three of the top five quarterbacks in the league plus Jane Daniels.
00:16:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Which, where does he rank right now with the way he's playing?
00:16:52
Zack
I know that's a great great question. Yeah, I think the postseason like quarterback of rankings is going to be really, really interesting to look and see. where everybody lands.
00:17:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:17:07
Zack
Whoever you count as the Titans quarterback will be last, I think. Maybe the Browns quarterback, whoever you want to attribute to the Browns would probably be last, but Titans are right there.
00:17:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But maybe not for long. I mean, you'll have DAC or or cam or should door.
00:17:25
Zack
Okay, we don't have time for this today, fans. Um, so a fun game, Saquon Barkley. I was trying to look up his stats.
00:17:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Uh-huh.
00:17:34
Zack
That's when I was, um, he had 205 rushing yards.
00:17:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:17:41
Zack
He had 27 receiving yards. So 230 total yards.
00:17:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's ridiculous.
00:17:48
Zack
Pretty good. That's pretty good. Uh, New Jalen Hertz had 128 passing yards. So. You do the math, crunch the numbers there.
00:17:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:18:02
Zack
Saquon had one long run as well.
00:18:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Two, I think he had a 60.
00:18:07
Zack
And Jaylen Hertz had a one really long run.
00:18:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, yeah, he had a 44 yard rush.
00:18:11
Zack
Yeah.
00:18:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
First drive of the game and you kind of felt like, OK, the Eagles are going to play bully ball here and
00:18:13
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:18:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
not be able to, you know, the the Rams are gonna be able to stop them. But the Rams defense played well, you know, shout out their defensive line.
00:18:24
Zack
Mm-hmm.
00:18:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They were playing against the best offensive line. They got I think seven sacks total. um Jared verse, who is me and Mason's pick for defensive rookie of the year, like he showed out.
00:18:31
Zack
Pretty good.
00:18:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So I think the Rams are going to be I think next year, I think they're going to load up this off season and go one more run at Superbowl with Stafford, because I think after next season, Stafford is a free agent. um So looking at 2026, that's going to be, that'll be a future I take as Rams, because I think they're going to load up for one more, one more time, one more rodeo.
00:19:02
Zack
Hmm. That's a scary team. A defense could be scary.
00:19:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I mean they you take out weather conditions
NFL MVP Race Highlights
00:19:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
today and I think they win that game. You take out the, the Kyron Williams fumble was crazy.
00:19:13
Zack
Bad weather.
00:19:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um That Matthew Stafford fumble was uncharacteristic of him and they just, he couldn't move. Like Stafford's not really mobile anyway, um but the snow made it to where he couldn't even run around at all.
00:19:28
Zack
Yeah, it was bad.
00:19:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think if the, if, if there wasn't snow and but like the, the field wasn't all muddy and hard to maneuver, I think, I think they would have won that game, but could've, should've, would've, could've.
00:19:37
Zack
Hm.
00:19:41
Zack
Yep. Shoo. Shoulda, woulda, coulda.
00:19:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then this game tonight feels like the winner, the winner is going to win so the MVP between Josh and Lamar.
00:19:51
Zack
Mmm.
00:19:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're the two favorites.
00:19:56
Zack
You think that's not decided yet?
00:19:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, I don't think it is. I don't think they have to have vote the votes in by now, but I could be wrong.
00:20:04
Zack
Wow.
00:20:08
Zack
That is.
00:20:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they take playoff performance into consideration.
00:20:11
Zack
High stakes.
00:20:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:20:14
Zack
OK.
00:20:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So but we'll know the results of that when this podcast comes out.
00:20:18
Zack
It's shaping up to be a fun one, yeah, shaping up to be good.
00:20:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it looks like we're gonna have a good fourth quarter here Yeah,
00:20:25
Zack
OK.
00:20:27
Zack
Do we want to dive into a little bit of some college ball?
00:20:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i've ah I've crunched some numbers and Unsurprisingly um It's all Ohio State for me
00:20:35
Zack
Oh.
00:20:43
Zack
Mm.
00:20:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I have a take. I think Ohio State, if they win the coin toss, should elect to receive the ball, be ultra aggressive, and go score.
00:20:51
Zack
Yeah.
00:20:55
Zack
Yep.
00:20:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Go for it on fourth downs. Don't get into a, don't let Notre Dame muddy the muddy it up with you because then they do have a chance. If you want to get into a slugfest, yeah.
00:21:03
Zack
They want to make you gross, low scoring.
00:21:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Don't get in a slugfest with them because their defense is good enough to do that and their run game will be able to you know keep not keep Ohio State off the field if you let them.
00:21:18
Zack
Yeah.
00:21:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I would score early and often, be ultra aggressive. um Jeremiah Smith has to be ah more of a factor than he was the last game. I mean, surprisingly, Texas took him out of the game and everybody else stepped up, but yeah.
00:21:32
Zack
I mean, I think Notre Dame does the same thing. They're just going to say anyone else is going to beat us than Jeremiah Smith.
00:21:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i just I don't know that they have the secondary for it.
00:21:43
Zack
Yeah.
00:21:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Notre Dame's defensive line is very, very good. um Their linebackers are strength. I'm not so sure about their secondary. But ah the thing is, I'd probably give Notre Dame's defense the edge over.
00:21:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like, if you're going Ohio State's offense better than Notre Dame's, obviously.
00:22:01
Zack
Much better.
00:22:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Notre Dame's defense is better than Ohio State's defense. defense probably by a margin. But then I give the coaching margin significantly to Marcus Freeman, to be honest.
00:22:12
Zack
He's he's coached very, very well this playoff.
00:22:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't think he's a very good coach. I mean, he's already getting NFL considerations.
00:22:19
Zack
outmaneuvered Kirby Smart.
00:22:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:22:22
Zack
I mean, he's beat some good programs.
00:22:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
With less talent.
00:22:26
Zack
Yeah.
00:22:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that's where ah that's where I think Ryan Day has to come out and just out five star them. can't get into a ah You can't exchange punches. You're gonna have to come out and just hit them like a UFC fight. Take them down early and don't stop until it's over.
00:22:47
Zack
Yeah, Notre Dame has relied all season on their their turnover to push they're not their offense isn't capable to to kind of perform by itself.
00:22:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hm.
00:22:57
Zack
You've you've got to get them in good situations through turnovers and things like that.
00:22:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:01
Zack
And so that's going to be a big thing. Does Will Howard throw any interceptions? Do we see any, I mean, I think that's going to be a key to the game. Can Notre Dame create those situations? And like you said, muddy the waters turn into kind of a growth slugfest, because if it's just a straight up matchup, I think Ohio State will win comfortably.
00:23:24
Zack
I don't know. This game is a struggle for me. I look i don't even know who I'm rooting for. I think I'm rooting for Notre Dame.
00:23:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, what a, what but a 180 from Zach.
00:23:31
Zack
But I also really don't know. Is that a 180 for me? I just hate Ohio State.
00:23:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You, I know, but you bet on Notre Dame, not even to make the playoffs.
00:23:37
Zack
they
00:23:41
Zack
You know, that's true. If it was anybody else, I think I would be... these it's It's truly hard for me. I'm excited to see what the numbers look like on this game because... It's like ah I have a sneaking suspicion they're going to be down from past years.
00:23:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:23:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:23:56
Zack
I think in my, and I know that I'm biased and I run in SEC circles and that's kind of, and so for people who are fans of football in the South, I think this game loses a lot of luster um being Notre Dame, Ohio State.
00:24:14
Zack
I think I know they're national brands. I just don't know. I'm excited. I'm interested to see it. I don't know. For me, my like interest level in this game is much lower than it would be if it was a team that was from my area of the country and was an SEC powerhouse, something like that.
00:24:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:24:36
Zack
Just because this is not a matchup I just ah care very much about, which is kind of a bummer because you
00:24:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I. Yeah, watched all year.
00:24:45
Zack
I'm not saying all the two best teams in the country right now. They they may very well be like the two best performing teams. um That's just kind of a bummer about Joe. At the end of the playoffs, we we we get to where we're at, and now we're here, and it's like, ah.
00:24:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, yeah, I agree. If I if I did not place a future parlay, including Ohio State when the playoffs started, I would be watching Rutgers Penn State College basketball instead. They're all at the same time, so.
00:25:15
Zack
Yeah, i I think some of the discourse about the Ohio State Michigan game and how there's, I don't know, Ohio State fans are just so annoying.
00:25:27
Zack
They're still crying about this game, and they're playing in the national championship, and part of that is just crazy. then i got It just makes me sick.
00:25:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, they're acting like their season was ruined.
00:25:35
Zack
um They're like, we don't even care if we win. We lost to Michigan, so it doesn't even matter. And like I do get, I understand what rivalry games mean.
00:25:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:25:44
Zack
i mean Like I do, but I'm also like, could you guys just shut up and just, what are you talking about?
00:25:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But they're letting it consume them. he Who cares about Michigan?
00:25:50
Zack
Like go play the national championship game and just chill. Like what? Yeah. Michigan's at home because they lost five games this season. Like what, who cares? Um, that just is annoying to me.
00:26:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Michigan's red, red in their head, a hundred percent is what it is.
00:26:04
Zack
They are in their head. I mean, it is funny. I do. I'm happy they lost cause it was funny thing. They don't, they can't, they always have something to like as an asterisk in their own minds at least, which is kind of funny.
00:26:17
Zack
But you don't, I mean, this would never happen in, which is what makes college football better.
00:26:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:26:22
Zack
Like what it is. You never hear a NFL team talking like that.
00:26:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
right
00:26:29
Zack
You know, like we lost to our rivals and, uh,
00:26:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. Like if the chiefs end up winning the Superbowl this year, and it's like, well, it doesn't really matter. Cause we lost week 17 against the Denver Broncos 38 to nothing. Like the season's ruined. It's like, Nope, sure.
00:26:44
Zack
yeah, who cares?
00:26:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Don't care.
00:26:47
Zack
But I mean, is and it's rooted in traditionally like Tennessee and Florida used to be like this where whoever won that game kind of had the had the the path to the national championship or to the SEC championship at least laid out for you. I know that's similar with with Ohio State. That game used to kind of be a play in game for postseason play and for the national championship a lot of times. um And so i get I get like the history behind it. It's also just really annoying.
00:27:19
Zack
And then the other side Notre Dame is just not in the conference which just makes me perpetually just really frustrated.
00:27:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it's just I agree.
00:27:26
Zack
So these teams both just get under my skin.
00:27:32
Zack
Shout out to them though.
00:27:38
Zack
All right, and that is going to be it for today. We hope you all have a great week. Enjoy the national championship tomorrow. We'll be back to break it all down and look ahead to your conference championship matchups. So be with us then. Have a great week and we will see you later.