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NFL Divisional Round Preview, Coaching Searches, and the Daredevil Trailer
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The boys discuss the latest news in the NFL coaching searches, break down and preview all of the Divisional Round NFL games, give some Food for Thoughts including some news out of Sonic and McDonald's, and discuss the new Daredevil trailer.
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Transcript
Weekend Football Preview
00:00:12
Zack
What is up? Welcome to the Next Guy Up podcast. We are back with you on a Thursday. Boy, do we have a big weekend of football ahead of us.
00:00:23
Mason
Mmm.
00:00:23
Zack
We have divisional round of the NFL playoffs at hand. We have some coaching searches. Tim's going to talk about that. He's excited.
00:00:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm gonna talk about it Rumor season
00:00:34
Zack
Uh, we have a lot of this, we're talking right at the time when there's not a lot of decisions being made yet, but a lot of names being thrown around. Uh, so some fun stuff happening there. Uh, it's rumor season is alive. And we have the college football national championship on Monday. Two teams that we all love to root for, and we hope that they both succeed. And I wish they could both win. So that's where we're
Podcasting Dedication
00:01:01
Zack
at. Uh, boys, how we doing? How we feeling?
00:01:04
Zack
Mason's in his work gear. He dressed up at law today.
00:01:05
Mason
Yeah, I really did.
00:01:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:01:08
Mason
I got my dress shirt on, dress pants.
00:01:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, business casual.
00:01:10
Mason
um I'm ready to go over here.
00:01:11
Zack
He's already doing some business on the spot.
00:01:12
Mason
No, I let, came straight from work, ate dinner, and you know, that's just a fool.
00:01:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Podcasters don't have jobs, they just live in basements of their parents.
00:01:17
Mason
And that's a devoted podcaster. That's just the life of a everyday podcaster, you know, just devoted and ready to go. So this,
00:01:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
podcasters don't have jobs they just live in basements of their parents
00:01:28
Zack
That's true. That's what I do.
NFL Coaching Rumors
00:01:32
Zack
Sick.
00:01:34
Mason
Um, I will say this is the most exciting because you don't and me intensely keep up with a lot of free agency stuff. So off season, but this is kind of free agency when it comes to coaches, but you still have playoff football.
00:01:46
Mason
So it's like fun because you have off the field and sometimes it can be drama, you know, we'll get into, but like the whole Dion Sanders and cowboy, like it's all just like a mess.
00:01:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dak Prescott's a future Tennessee Titan.
00:01:57
Mason
Uh, but it's. Get out of here the with that. i sent I, for some reason, Fandul posted this thing where they were like, yeah, how does it make sense to take it and an aging quarterback with this horrible contract and just give away all of our first round picks for that?
00:02:04
Zack
Wrong.
00:02:15
Mason
That's just, I mean, it seems like something the Titans would actually do, but why?
00:02:16
Zack
There's no way.
00:02:19
Mason
Why would you do that? But anyways, you, you, he, he found the trigger. He, he, trigger he triggered me all of a sudden. He's just throwing
Social Media Humor
00:02:26
Mason
that out there. Titan tens over there. But, uh,
00:02:28
Zack
ah
00:02:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's topical. What are you talking about? Fandall tweeted out. Why am i I, you, you, you act like I'm, I create these things out of the clouds just to target you. I'm just talking about what's relevant in the news.
00:02:40
Mason
Well, OK, and let's be honest, you also you get when I just post, like, oh, guess who's in a guess? ah They're looking at the Jags are looking at Robert Saleh. You actually didn't get heated about that, but I'll just like send something about the Jags and you're like, listen
Free Agency Impact
00:02:54
Mason
here, idiot.
00:02:54
Mason
And I'm like, I was just posting something.
00:02:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
i Never I've never said listen here idiot let the record show you can never find those words typed on a text Not to you.
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Mason
as
00:03:00
Mason
Well, you have said that before.
00:03:06
Mason
I've heard you say less, Mary.
00:03:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I Said learn ball of gamer which is What trim bulky's burner account tweets at people we we already know where it is trim bulky We know what your Twitter burner account is we found it
00:03:10
Mason
I never thought that.
00:03:21
Zack
got through a gamer
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes, yeah, he says learn ball gamer.
00:03:28
Mason
It's pretty good.
00:03:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That right there almost you know that that come back he said that wants somebody I was like, you know, you might be worth keeping if you call them people gamer.
00:03:41
Zack
I think it'd be funny if you were like a celebrity too. I feel like people do it sometimes, but you make a fake account that everyone knows is your fake account, but you can just post ridiculous stuff on it.
00:03:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you just yeah.
00:03:51
Zack
And it's just like a second account. It's like your alter ego kind of stuff that you can't put that, I mean, I think people do that.
00:03:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That would be funny.
00:03:58
Zack
Uh, but yeah, Kevin Duran is ultimate Twitter guy.
00:03:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Kevin Grant's like owned up to doing it.
00:04:00
Mason
Yeah.
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's a big Twitter guy. is He's big time on Twitter.
00:04:09
Zack
That's so funny.
00:04:11
Mason
So.
00:04:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that. I like that out of him.
00:04:12
Mason
I stand corrected 10. You never had a listen here idiot, but you did a frame by that doesn't know in our fancy football. we We do this video thing where people like to jinx each other and you did quote one time, listen here, voodoo man.
00:04:27
Mason
You can get out of here. What's your text? So.
00:04:30
Zack
and it checks out.
00:04:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's ah what is it?
00:04:32
Mason
that's pretty good no it's nothing it's just fun no it wasn't mean it's just funny because i was like listen here couldn't find an idiot but listen here voodoo man get out of here
00:04:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's mean about that? I don't.
00:04:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but listen, every time every time I bring up the Titans, you're like you're trying to trigger me. All I'm doing is talk about what's in the news. The Titans have the first overall pick. Dion Sanders is all of the sudden a candidate for the Cowboys job, only if he can secure should or
Quarterback Trades and Drafts
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
going to the team. How do you secure that by having the first overall draft pick?
00:05:01
Zack
Look, I'm, I'm happy to give them the first of all, Jeff pick, but I'm going to need them to pay out the wazoo for it.
00:05:05
Mason
A ransom and I don't want a quarterback.
00:05:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've heard Jerry Jones is is willing to eat most of the cap space on DAX contract to make it happen You should get like all their draft picks plus Michael Parsons
00:05:13
Mason
I don't.
00:05:15
Zack
See, I don't want that.
00:05:15
Mason
He's going to have to trade deck.
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Zack
I want others.
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Mason
Yeah, I don't want deck. I just want like 50 draft picks. Cause that's, I want what the bears did to the Panthers.
00:05:22
Zack
Yep.
00:05:28
Mason
as Well, I still don't want deck. Yeah. Micah, that's fine. Give me that.
00:05:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Get Micah you'd have to pay him because he needs a new contract and then they could trade DAC somewhere else To get they could trade him to the Browns to get the second overall pick and they get Travis Hunter Who says no who says no?
00:05:32
Mason
Give me.
00:05:42
Zack
Wow.
00:05:45
Zack
Here's the thing is, is like the Cowboys will be smart if they wanted to get shouldered to keep deck. Let's sit on the bench for a year.
00:05:56
Zack
That doesn't happen in the NFL anymore, but how much, how much did I have on his contract?
00:05:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Dax not called Dak ain't gonna like that Have Shador breathing down his neck. Years, he just got an extension last summer.
00:06:04
Zack
I feel like that guy's been a league for a long time. I feel like he's old.
00:06:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But Dak just got an extension last summer. Remember, he's he's now the highest paid quarterback in the NFL. All those times Mason tries to do.
00:06:14
Zack
Can we do a draft of mediocre, of like mediocre quarterbacks?
00:06:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Draft of quarterbacks that are like number 12 through 20.
00:06:19
Zack
Like you have been like their entire career.
00:06:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, like Kirk Cousins.
00:06:27
Zack
Yeah.
00:06:28
Mason
It's a pretty good one.
00:06:28
Zack
Like Ryan Tan, Ryan Tan was mediocre quarterback.
00:06:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But they have to have been in the league for like, Like 10 year quarterbacks. I like that.
00:06:35
Zack
Yeah. Like it lay a long time. Like they just made an absolute killing being the 12th best quarterback in the league.
00:06:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:06:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:06:42
Mason
It's not a bad, yeah, I like that as well.
00:06:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I like that. Let's cook on that. Cause some names pop up, but yeah, that'd be a fun one.
00:06:48
Zack
Okay, let's get off season.
00:06:50
Mason
I was also wanna do a list of quarterbacks that the amount of money they've made, like made off of being a mediocre. I know you kind of just said that, but Matt Flynn is not a top 10.
00:07:03
Mason
Like Matt Flynn, like his agent, whoever that insane.
00:07:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Matt Flynn got paid for a two game stretch with the Packers and then never even got to start for the Seahawks Because Russell Wilson got drafted That was a crazy one Sam Donald's about to get paid.
00:07:09
Mason
Yep.
00:07:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He cost himself some money I know we're gonna talk about the those games, but he cost himself some money in his last two games um Yeah, that's the but that Dax if Sam Donald
00:07:19
Zack
Yeah. yeah
00:07:25
Zack
Yep. Do you think he's going to, where is he going to go?
00:07:31
Zack
Yeah.
00:07:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't know you're not going.
00:07:34
Zack
Gents.
00:07:36
Mason
Back to the jets.
00:07:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
God, dude, the the Jets are a dumpster fire.
00:07:37
Mason
He wouldn't want to go back.
00:07:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Jets have to be like.
00:07:42
Zack
I feel like I just, in the depths, like have no hope for the future.
00:07:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I don't know, maybe I don't I didn't say that.
00:07:49
Mason
I never realized how low we could go. I, let me, let me preface this by saying tens before you say it.
00:07:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But.
00:07:58
Mason
I think I'm taking it out on you.
00:07:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:07:59
Zack
little giants into nightmare giants are also in hope for a future
00:08:02
Mason
Do it.
00:08:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
John's are in a dumpster fire situation as well.
00:08:05
Mason
John too. Yeah. yeah I think I'm just taking out our struggles. I get heated when you're just stating a fact and it's because I know. It's because I know how bad, like the fact that we were like, I don't even care.
00:08:18
Mason
It's just the fact that the Browns are the most laughing stock. No one should ever consider a assistant GM or GM and we ate like, I was just like, that's such a Titans thing to do. Like go to a successful like franchise.
00:08:30
Mason
Don't go to this. Like that made one the worst contract signing like quarterback with the whole Deshaun Watson. Might not even play next year. And I'm like, I just just,
00:08:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, he's definitely not going to.
00:08:41
Mason
Well, I just, I feel, we'll go ahead.
00:08:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He re...
00:08:42
Zack
Kind of sucks.
00:08:43
Mason
Yeah.
00:08:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was gonna say, he ruptures Achilles again.
00:08:44
Mason
Yeah.
00:08:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He ain't playing next year.
00:08:50
Mason
So they could definitely go cam ward if we didn't, I don't know what's going to happen.
00:08:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:08:55
Zack
I really like how we're in the, we're in the divisional route of the playoffs and we keep, we're opening up the last two episodes with like Titans, Jags.
00:08:57
Mason
That might be the highest upside out of, I know. Yeah.
00:09:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No one said anything about the Jags.
00:09:06
Mason
We.
00:09:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Jags are not even brought
Fast Food Critiques
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
up.
00:09:10
Mason
It's true.
00:09:11
Zack
It's fine.
00:09:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Maybe right before we started recording, I was talking about them, but not right now.
00:09:16
Mason
So should we do that now? I don't know what you want to do, but we got some stuff we can cook.
00:09:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm just, just the coaching, the coaching.
00:09:23
Zack
We can talk, we can talk some coach coaching coaches.
00:09:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I don't know. It's interesting because I wish, like we talked about, I wish you could hire coordinators that are still in the playoffs. It makes it tough because I feel like Ben Johnson is the domino that's going to fall.
00:09:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then everybody else will kind of get rolling here. I have a statement. I know I've pounded the drum for Ben Johnson for the last few months.
00:09:49
Mason
Mm.
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Zack
on
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Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I want to unbeat that drum. I want to throw that drum away. Not too far away. I want to keep it close by just in case. so um But I'm going to set that drum to the side. I think Ben Johnson might be a goofball.
00:10:03
Zack
Mmm.
00:10:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's he's kind of giving me Adam Gace vibes a little bit um where he might have just been successful because of what's around him. He's been the hot name, the big candidate for the last two years now. He's favored to go to the Raiders. If you're the guy who's like, I'm the next big thing in the NFL as a head coach, and you choose to go to the Raiders right now who have no quarterback, no receivers, no running back, they're best players, a tight end, who is a great, he Brock Bowers is amazing, but can you really build a whole team around?
00:10:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Quarterback or a tight end and then you are you also can't even draft a quarterback this draft class sucks um at quarterback I Don't I'm off Sam Donald he turned back into a pumpkin Kevin O'Connell did the best he could This guy in Jamis Jamis isn't going anywhere that matters.
00:10:42
Zack
Maybe the A's came down.
00:10:50
Zack
Hmm. Jamis. Where's Jamis gonna go?
00:11:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not getting another starting job. I
00:11:05
Zack
That's what they all say He started Think we should do Biggest frauds in the NFL as well.
00:11:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's not, there's no way, he didn't get one this year, he was a backup. And then Massage Boy had to go get his Achilles torn for him to start again.
00:11:24
Zack
It's fun draft like people who are who are thought of really highly but it was only because of your circumstances not their actual talent and
00:11:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. Sam Darnold.
00:11:35
Zack
Bill Belichick.
00:11:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh, Bill Belichick.
00:11:38
Mason
Wow.
00:11:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Now we're cooking.
00:11:40
Zack
Where's he coaching now?
00:11:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Eli Manning.
00:11:42
Zack
He must have a really good coaching job now. Right.
00:11:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I heard that Bill Belichick
00:11:48
Zack
Just getting his North Carolina in college.
00:11:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He had he was kind of checking out the Cowboys job and they told him it wasn't gonna be available because Jerry Jones was gonna resign McCarthy and that's why McCarthy blocked or Jerry blocked on McCarthy's interviews and Then when they met back up, he decided he changed his mind McCarthy is gonna be the Bears head coach I'm calling that No one wants the Saints job
00:11:51
Zack
They're fired.
00:11:59
Zack
Ooh.
00:12:06
Zack
Tough.
00:12:11
Mason
Mm.
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Zack
for
00:12:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Have you noticed that? Like no one's talking, no one wants it.
00:12:19
Mason
No one's touching that.
00:12:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're, they're in absolute cap room purgatory. They have like, who's the best player on the saints? Go ahead. Tell me. 30 year old, 30 year old Alvin Kamara, Chris Alave, who's going to request a trade because he hates being there.
00:12:31
Mason
Alvin Kamara.
00:12:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like that's it. That's their team. That's pretty bad. No one wants that job.
00:12:43
Zack
That's not great.
00:12:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No one wants the saints job. no one should want the Raiders job, but Ben Johnson does apparently because he wants to work under Tom Brady who owns 1% of the football team. So Ben Johnson, um, if you come to Jacksonville, cool.
00:13:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll be back on being hype about it, but, uh, you're not, he's now number three on my list.
00:13:02
Zack
a
00:13:06
Zack
Someone who is just an anonymous watcher of the show might say, it sounds like you're coping with the fact that he's not coming to Jacksonville.
00:13:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:13:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, no, no, no, there's no copium going on over here, buddy.
00:13:19
Zack
Say it.
00:13:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's number three.
00:13:20
Zack
I didn't say it, but said some people might.
00:13:21
Mason
You said three.
00:13:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's number three.
00:13:23
Mason
Some people. Who's number two?
00:13:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cliff Kingsbury.
00:13:27
Mason
Oh yeah.
00:13:28
Zack
Hmm.
00:13:29
Mason
Did you even say who number one, it and we already know.
00:13:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, it's Liam Cohen.
00:13:31
Mason
did you Did you say it on the, okay.
00:13:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, it's Liam Cohen. I want Liam Cohen mad.
00:13:33
Mason
I didn't know if you said it on the pod. Yeah, I didn't know if you said it on the pod.
00:13:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm screaming at Tom. Oh, this guy came from the McVey tree. He I'm I want it to invest in anyone that coached under McVey. And that's this guy. This guy got little Will Lewis drafted in the first round or a second round. You guys know that he made his offense look so good at Kentucky that people in the NFL really thought about drafting Will Lewis and let him start.
00:14:00
Zack
Do you guys see that Quinn uses declaring for the draft officially He he feels kind of will ever see to me I'll be honest with you On
00:14:00
Mason
You don't have to remind me.
00:14:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, what a, I mean, I think he would have been better off taking the mysterious big 10 offer NIL to go play. Cause he ain't getting drafted until the third or fourth round.
00:14:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's, he's, he's a poor man's Will Lewis. That's what I, that's what I think about Quentin Evers and still couldn't do anything.
00:14:24
Zack
a really good roster he had a really good roster Texas
00:14:30
Zack
soft schedule.
00:14:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If Carson Beck would have declared for this draft, this could have been like the worst draft class ever.
00:14:35
Mason
oh
00:14:39
Zack
Where do you think that I heard he's he's projected like the number three overall quarterback, right?
00:14:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who?
00:14:45
Zack
Quinn years.
00:14:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably.
00:14:47
Zack
Like, where do you think he's going to get drafted like second round?
00:14:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
This.
00:14:50
Mason
Is it behind shador
00:14:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, third fourth round, legitimately third or fourth round.
00:14:53
Zack
There won't be any the top two quarterback can go like top five and then nobody know.
00:14:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Shador Sanders is the second round pick. He's a second round pick. Truthfully, like grade wise, he would be a second round pick, but this quarterback class is so bad and there's so many teams that need one badly that he'll get drafted higher than he should.
00:15:11
Mason
So would you have...
00:15:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cam Ward's probably not a first round draft pick, honestly. He's he's their their project he's a project.
00:15:18
Mason
See, and you kind of brought it up earlier, we need to go back to the days of drafting and benching and having them sit behind a quarterback to learn. Bring those back.
00:15:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, but none of them want to
00:15:29
Mason
I feel like everybody's rushing too much because everybody's afraid to lose their job, like GMs and coaches. And it's just like, let um let them cook. Well, last time, ah what's the one that I
NFL Playoff Analysis
00:15:41
Mason
think of as Aaron Rodgers?
00:15:42
Zack
That's the one I always think.
00:15:43
Mason
I'm sure there's better examples, huh?
00:15:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
mean Jordan loves that for two years behind Aaron Rodgers as well.
00:15:46
Zack
Aaron Rodgers.
00:15:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's turned out I'd say like I mean I'd say that was a good move and He's still a little raw, but he's he's he's a tea top 10 ish quarterback.
00:15:57
Mason
We're figuring it out. Yeah.
00:16:03
Mason
I just, I don't understand. You never look at one in your life, even if they didn't paint, let's say we'll have a set the first year, you know, he would have looked better. I know you've sat at the beginning of that season, but I'm talking the whole year or even into, you know, he would have looked way better than he did this last season.
00:16:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:16:21
Mason
In my opinion, I think so.
00:16:21
Zack
There's kind of an argument that like the only way to. You just have to do it to get better at it like. The only way to get gain NFL experiences by like throwing yourself into the NFL games and just playing bad for a while and just getting used to it.
00:16:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
by doing it. Yeah. Mm hmm.
00:16:40
Zack
I mean, that's the argument is that it doesn't matter how long you sit is there should be learning curve once you start starting.
00:16:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I agree. I think sitting for a year could be a good thing if you've got an established quarterback, but.
00:16:52
Zack
I'm an advocate for sitting behind a good quarterback. Yeah.
00:16:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, like passion for homes, he he sat his first year, but he he started like their last two games because they like had playoffs locked up. um And then he's the starter of the next year. So I think it just depends. It really just depends on your coaching system and and the and the offense that's built around you that makes you succeed.
00:17:14
Zack
Yeah.
00:17:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like now you'm I'm not talking about weapons or receivers. I'm just talking about the system and like this the and O's of it that make it make a quarterback click or not.
00:17:25
Zack
I mean, the reality is, is that the way the system is set up is that and quarterbacks are going to the worst teams in the NFL
College Football Playoff Criticism
00:17:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:17:34
Zack
who don't have good quarterbacks.
00:17:37
Zack
Like it's so rare that a good, that a high quarterback draft pick goes to a team with a good quarterback already.
00:17:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:17:44
Zack
I think that's really the reality.
00:17:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. We're a good team for the most part that.
00:17:47
Zack
We're a good team. You're, you're not going to win enough games for it to matter probably.
00:17:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's that brings up the question of like the Steelers like do you fire Mike Tomlin because you're never going to win three games in a year and then have a high draft pick quarterback and fix your quarterback problems under Mike Tomlin.
00:17:52
Zack
And it's worth the risk.
00:17:56
Zack
Yeah.
00:18:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um So you're always going to.
00:18:07
Mason
The only way they can do it is free agency.
00:18:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right and.
00:18:10
Zack
Or the tank.
00:18:12
Mason
But they're not gonna do that.
00:18:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right, but you can't you can't tank under Mike Tomlin like Mike Tomlin just wakes up at eight and nine like there's no there's there's no worse than he can do.
00:18:19
Zack
so
00:18:22
Mason
But also, if they're already talking about firing him after that playoff game, and they got to the playoffs, and he's always gone to the p playoffs, imagine if he actually tanked. Those fans are too impatient. They would, for some reason, act act out and want him fired.
00:18:36
Mason
Even though it's just a tank.
00:18:39
Mason
Zach's been on that tank.
00:18:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, yeah, if Mike, if Mike Tomlin became available, I would, I'd want, he'd be number one quickly.
00:18:41
Mason
It's because Sean Payton the only or the last one that was a trade head coach?
00:18:42
Zack
ahtain
00:18:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Before that, it was Gruden.
00:18:54
Mason
It doesn't happen very often. Gruden.
00:18:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, the bucks.
00:18:56
Mason
Okay. People have talked about it cause he's still got years on his contract, right? Tomlin two, uh, yeah, two or three years.
00:19:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Who Tomlin? Yeah, I think he just got an extension like last summer.
00:19:06
Mason
Someone said something about trades and they've all been good.
00:19:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Steelers don't fire coaches. Steelers have had like three coaches ever.
00:19:09
Zack
Love a tank. You're welcome.
00:19:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it's just good organization.
00:19:16
Mason
Hmm. Maybe you should get a GM from that organization instead of the Browns.
00:19:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I would.
00:19:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I think the Browns would be just fine. No, you guys, that's not the only person you guys have interviewed.
00:19:26
Mason
Stop that.
00:19:29
Mason
No, there's been other ones.
00:19:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You guys have interviewed.
00:19:30
Mason
It just makes me nervous because i don't I don't even want that as an option because I feel like Amy would go with that route.
00:19:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, you. but
00:19:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, that's why when people said that Liam or, uh, sorry, I got Liam Cohen on the brain. Uh, Robert Sala was a, like a hot candidate for the Jags job. He's not even interviewed for our job. We've not even requested an interview with him. So why are people lying?
00:19:56
Mason
It's just like draft all over again. You got to dive deep.
00:19:58
Zack
Thank you.
00:19:59
Mason
That's why I sent it to you is because it was an article and it was literally just getting track or having interest, but there was no like interview.
00:20:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We've not, yeah, we don't want to interview him.
00:20:07
Mason
But then I wonder, I'm sure you guys have.
00:20:09
Zack
Mason, it's called clickbait.
00:20:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, Bleacher Report, gotcha.
00:20:11
Mason
Yeah, and that happens with the draft, too. Yeah, sure did.
00:20:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Can't let Bleacher Report get you, Mason.
00:20:16
Mason
Listen, I've I've fallen for the ah fake Adam Schefter account before, so.
00:20:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
mean Bleacher Report's real, but they're...
00:20:23
Mason
I'm a, I'm a 55 year old man and a 31 year old body fall for all that fake news and click bait. Yes. Go ahead, Zach.
00:20:35
Zack
Well, we are going to get to some actual breaking down some matchups, but I think we've got a couple of things before that.
00:20:41
Mason
Yeah.
00:20:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes.
00:20:41
Zack
We have a couple of topics that we wanted to bring forth.
00:20:46
Mason
Mm-hmm.
00:20:46
Zack
What are we going to hit first? We want to hit some food for thoughts. Do we want to hit some press releases?
00:20:51
Mason
We can do that. I got some good ones. I feel like.
00:20:53
Zack
All right. I love a food for thought.
00:20:56
Mason
Okay. I got three of them. Anybody got any?
00:20:59
Zack
I've got one that someone else might have.
00:20:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ooh.
00:21:00
Mason
Okay.
00:21:02
Zack
It's more of a discussion.
00:21:02
Mason
so yeah So all three of us, and it's kind of new, but they've started adding even more, but all three of us have talked about or concerned about how expensive Sonic is.
00:21:13
Zack
Mm.
00:21:14
Mason
And they've listened to the complaints and Sonic shared um that they are doing a value menu. One of those is the quarter pound double cheeseburger for $1.99.
00:21:29
Mason
Oh, that's on Mondays. But on ah Thursdays, you can get chili cheese coneys for $149. And then the $199 menu has a grilled cheeseburger, small cream slushies, queso wraps, and soft preol pretzel twist.
00:21:45
Mason
So they're revamping trying to do a little um value menus to add just because how expensive. And they've been running these deals. They used to do 50 cent corn dogs, but ah they've been trying to add all these deals where you can do 99 cent corn dogs and trying to do mozzarella sticks for 149.
00:22:03
Mason
They're trying to add more of those, it says, according to foodandwine.com.
00:22:10
Zack
Wow, foodignline.com really dipping into the sonic fast food world.
00:22:16
Mason
Any opinions on that? No. Take it or leave it.
00:22:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah I'm down with Sonic. I'm two thumbs down.
Casual Sports Talk
00:22:23
Mason
I like a half price a blue coconut slush and maybe get a, you know, one 99 something another.
00:22:25
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
there I don't like their sodas anymore.
00:22:27
Zack
My turning happy hour. Yeah.
00:22:32
Mason
Yeah. Well on the app, you can get the half price 24 seven, get a grilled cheeseburger for.
00:22:35
Zack
That's true. True.
00:22:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're carbonations way off every time.
00:22:42
Mason
yeah
00:22:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And if you get a syrup flavor addict, it just tastes like I'm drinking syrup. So I'm done with Sonic.
00:22:50
Mason
Well, listen, they F tier, they listened to how expensive it was and added their value menu.
00:22:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Bottom tier fast food. F tier.
00:22:58
Zack
He's done.
00:22:59
Mason
So maybe they'll listen to you about how bad the sodas are.
00:23:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well good, they can listen to this and they suck.
00:23:04
Mason
I definitely feel like Zach's not a Sonic.
00:23:05
Zack
The only differentiating factor of Sonic is their tater tots in my opinion.
00:23:11
Mason
And those weren't even on the value menu.
00:23:12
Zack
Tear-tots and slushies are all that they do though.
00:23:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
See, they're putting crap on the value menu that no one even wants. Put the tater tots on there.
00:23:18
Mason
I don't know what a... I don't know what a queso wrap is. I'm assuming like one piece of chicken with like queso.
00:23:23
Zack
Or I
00:23:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's a chicken tender and a little tortilla with their little queso sauce and an undercooked piece of bacon.
00:23:27
Zack
could cheese-roll got them.
00:23:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've gotten them. They're not anything we write home about.
00:23:34
Mason
Okay, next thing. ah Pepsi. um And I saw this due to snacking with Zach, our boy.
00:23:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:23:44
Mason
ah they
00:23:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Snacking with Jack. I'm gonna send him that clip need it It's a cream soda with cherry Wild cherry wild cherry Pepsi is like one of the top tier sodas in the world
00:23:45
Mason
Snacking with Jack.
00:23:46
Zack
been
00:23:46
Mason
ah Wild cherry and cream Pepsi ah for on January 20th.
00:23:52
Zack
and
00:23:55
Mason
What do you guys he needs it. So um I did.
00:24:01
Zack
try that.
00:24:07
Zack
oh
00:24:07
Mason
Wild cherry Pepsi has been out since 1988. I did not know it's been out that long.
00:24:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. It's fire.
00:24:12
Mason
ah It's distinctly known for, did you see the news today?
00:24:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
You can't drink it, but I bet it's got red dye in it.
00:24:18
Mason
I was also gonna bring that up.
00:24:18
Zack
You'll probably die.
00:24:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's not the red dye you're allegedly allergic to.
00:24:21
Mason
It's three i think it's the start of everything. ah Nostalgic soda, one of the more popular nostalgic sodas is the Pepsi wild cherry. I did not know that it's been out since 1988 and how nostalgic it is.
00:24:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:24:35
Mason
so You would drink that.
00:24:38
Zack
I'll drink it.
00:24:38
Mason
Well, guess what?
00:24:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I was drinking 10 of them.
00:24:39
Mason
That foodandwine.com, it's got it's got him on there.
00:24:41
Zack
Yeah.
00:24:42
Mason
He's on that it's on this article. so
00:24:46
Zack
Mason you just perused this website for all your food needs Not a reputable
00:24:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
00:24:49
Mason
No, I don't get all of them from there.
00:24:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
At least you're citing your sources.
00:24:52
Mason
Last one. That's right. like I'm in a high school English class. I didn't use Wikipedia, so I passed. Okay.
00:25:04
Mason
If you were in high school or college and you had to go do a school project you more than likely went to Starbucks Well now Starbucks reversed its open door policy.
00:25:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but the What a terrible transition that was.
00:25:16
Mason
I Know I was trying there But a lot of people I do see like people just go there and sit on their laptops.
00:25:17
Zack
that' the point
00:25:22
Mason
You always see the hipster with the
00:25:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
those people just want to be seen out on their laptops and look important.
00:25:26
Zack
Yeah,
00:25:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're not doing anything. They're watching Netflix on their laptop.
00:25:31
Zack
yeah done it.
00:25:32
Mason
So now Starbucks put in new rules to reverse an open door policy. Um, which basically means you can't just go and hang out. You have to be ordering, you have to order something and to, yeah, to stay there.
00:25:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So like you have to, you can always sit there for a certain amount of time and they'll kick you out.
00:25:52
Mason
I didn't really say if there's like, if you like finished your drink and you're staying for a couple of hours, it does not say anything about that, but.
00:25:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hey guess what Starbucks, why don't you stop taking yourself so seriously. If people want to sit in your stupid lobby and drink their coffee, leave them alone.
00:26:05
Zack
They don't make money on people who come in and get coffee they make money off people who like get seven dollar drinks on the way to work every day.
00:26:06
Mason
I'm sure they're just.
00:26:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right, or their $37 slice of banana bread.
00:26:12
Zack
That's where they make them.
00:26:12
Mason
It's true.
00:26:16
Zack
Like, They could not have any, no one goes, sorry.
00:26:18
Mason
I think they're doing just fine. I mean, they had Starbucks on the cruise ship. Sorry, Zach. They've had Starbucks.
00:26:25
Zack
No, that's good.
00:26:25
Mason
at They got them everywhere. I mean, I think they're doing just fine.
00:26:30
Zack
I think I agree with that.
00:26:33
Mason
OK, those were my food for thoughts.
00:26:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, then they need to stop being so just, they're nerds, they're idiots, they're losers.
00:26:41
Zack
Oh,
00:26:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Quit being quick.
00:26:42
Zack
oh
00:26:43
Mason
Tensely positive ah the positive guy over here Sonic F you suck Okay, is your transition better than what I did?
00:26:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Just stop what you're doing.
00:26:51
Zack
Okay. I got some positive news for everybody. I've got two words. I've got one word for you. Mcvalue.
00:26:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, I saw this today.
00:27:02
Zack
um Let's discuss it then. We have a new Mcvalue menu.
00:27:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
All right, let's do it. i hit I used it today when I got lunch at McDonald's.
00:27:09
Zack
Okay. um They have a buy one, add one for $1 breakfast menu. Includes. So you buy any of them and you get any of the rest, yeah any of the other ones for $1.
00:27:19
Zack
So it's sausage biscuit, sausage McMuffin, sausage burrito, hash brown. Hash brown feels like a bad deal if you choose that as one of your buy one get ones.
00:27:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm.
00:27:29
Zack
For lunch and dinner, they have double cheeseburger, McChicken, six piece McNuggets, small fries.
00:27:39
Zack
I think those are only worth it if you get two sandwiches or like two of the main items.
00:27:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:27:43
Mason
Yeah, if you're doing the fries, yeah, you're correct.
00:27:46
Zack
um They also have some meal deals part of this That um This may actually be the best part of the deal did you do this tens Yeah McChicken or McDouble meal deal so it's a McChicken or McDouble with fries for nuggets and a drink for $5 does it sound familiar to anyone?
00:27:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Too small fries is nothing.
00:27:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The $5. Yeah.
00:28:01
Mason
This is new to me.
00:28:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm. Sounds like someone who's elite effects food.
00:28:14
Mason
I'm thinking back.
00:28:17
Zack
That's like someone's taking notes. Uh, yeah, that's just like the four for four back in the day.
00:28:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But the true Kings.
00:28:23
Zack
Now it's like the five four for five, but whatever. Um, they they did that four for four was too good to be true.
00:28:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Inflation got him.
00:28:32
Zack
They flew too close to the sun. They're losing money. Um, how do we feel about this? mc value It was kind of, good they kind of hit the, hit the airwaves a little bit. I feel like they they were trying to really push it.
00:28:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm this I mean this is good. It's good marketing and everything if you use the app a lot of these deals were already like the breakfast one anytime I get breakfast McDonald's you can buy any biscuit and get a second one for free it's any breakfast sandwich not not like you can get a bacon egg and and a sausage egg and cheese like
00:28:49
Zack
Yeah.
00:28:59
Mason
For free.
00:29:08
Zack
That's pretty good.
00:29:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There's no like there's no real value in this. I think this is just them Trying to look like they're rolling out this better Value menu and going back to their roots because everyone's been so mad about them hiking up all their prices and stuff But if you have the app like if you click deals Like I'll just look at it right now app exclusive deals
00:29:27
Zack
Mm-hmm I'm just gonna say that the real deal is where I think the meal deal it needs to be The problem with the meal deal is Obviously, it's much worse for the business if people a lot of people are buying it Because like a double quarter pounder meal is like what $12 probably $9 Which is crazy
00:29:30
Mason
the one ah The wanna be a biggie bag.
00:29:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:29:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right. For a burger, a sandwich and or the burger fries and a drink. Yeah. It's like 12 bucks.
00:29:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:29:57
Zack
And if you could, especially if you could buy a burger, fries, nuggets, and a drink for $5, you could buy two of those whole meal for the same price as one combo of like a double, quarter pounder, Big Mac, whatever meal.
00:30:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:30:12
Zack
um
00:30:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But the food volume is not the same. I guess if you bought two of them, it would probably be two.
00:30:15
Zack
If you get two of them, it's the that's probably more food.
00:30:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Two big double.
00:30:20
Mason
Food quality.
00:30:22
Zack
You get two McDoubles, it's not the same as one Big Mac, you think?
00:30:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I know that is probably. If not more, actually.
00:30:31
Zack
For sure. And you get double fries. That's like a large fry. And you get eight chicken nuggets.
00:30:35
Mason
Did you pull up the.
00:30:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Two drinks. Yeah, yeah.
00:30:39
Mason
Did you pull up the app 10s?
00:30:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. So even just like looking at the app right now, uh, any size drink $1 20% off of any meal, more than $12 a free, any size fry with a minimum purchase of $3 buy one breakfast sandwich, get one free free 10 piece chicken McNuggets with a minimum purchase of 15 bucks.
00:30:56
Zack
Hmm.
00:31:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
$8.99, 20 piece McNugget with a basket of fries. So that's a meal. that's You get 20 nuggets and a basket of fries for $8.99. That was a pretty good deal. ah Any size fry, that's $8.99 for 20 nuggets and a basket of fries.
00:31:15
Zack
For how much is that 20 nuggets? or
00:31:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then 50% off of McChicken or hot and spicy McChicken, just in general, just just because.
00:31:25
Mason
oh
00:31:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that makes it like a dollar. So I mean, their app is worth it. Because it has deals like, like pretty close to this make value thing is what I was trying to get out.
00:31:37
Zack
Yeah.
00:31:38
Mason
The only thing I wish you could do is combine deals.
00:31:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, you can combine deals with rewards.
00:31:42
Zack
Yeah.
00:31:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So like, and they get you get a lot of rewards every time you purchase. So like if like tonight I picked up Macy a happy meal and then I used, um, the minimum purchase thing to get a drink.
00:31:56
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So I got her a happy meal and a drink for like a dollar 80 steals on deals.
00:32:01
Zack
do you Still can't beat that Yeah, I use Wendy's deals a lot
00:32:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Couldn't beat it with a stick.
00:32:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:07
Zack
I will often use those are good.
00:32:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wendy's.
00:32:08
Mason
I do as well.
00:32:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:11
Zack
Usually I will usually get like one of the $5 meals and then I'll just add on something for free.
00:32:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:16
Zack
Whatever. If it's like extra fries or extra nuggets or I'll just add that on.
00:32:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
yeah
00:32:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:32:21
Mason
And I got the key chain where you can get the small frosty.
00:32:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:32:25
Zack
True.
00:32:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, speaking of frosties, the thin mint at the end of the month, pretty hype about that.
00:32:32
Mason
Ah.
00:32:33
Zack
Oh, really?
00:32:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm. Yeah, it's gonna be fire. It's gonna be vanilla based with with the mint.
00:32:42
Zack
They're gonna show up the camera.
00:32:43
Mason
I'm gonna be putting that keychain to good use or Wow
00:32:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's right, baby. I had one food for thought, and it's that I think Hardee's, I think Hardee's is back.
00:32:48
Zack
Okay.
00:32:54
Zack
Wow.
00:32:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think Hardee's, 2025 is the year of Hardee's. It's coming.
00:33:00
Zack
Buy your stock now, folk.
00:33:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It might be my number two now behind Wendy's, as far as burger guys go.
00:33:03
Zack
Wow. Hi, Wendy?
00:33:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I love Wendy's.
00:33:09
Zack
Hmm.
00:33:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm a big Wendy's guy.
00:33:12
Zack
That's kind of shocking considering the Taco Bell discourse on this.
00:33:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I mean, I'm talking about burger places.
00:33:16
Zack
Okay. okay
00:33:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
If we're talking about fast food in general, yeah, stockable.
00:33:18
Mason
i
00:33:20
Zack
Okay. Okay. Gotcha.
00:33:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then it's Popeyes.
00:33:23
Zack
Wow.
00:33:25
Mason
I always forget how much you like Popeyes.
00:33:26
Zack
Takes.
00:33:27
Mason
I always kind of forget about you love it.
00:33:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't like Popeyes, I love Popeyes.
00:33:29
Mason
I always forget about Popeyes. It's kind of over there chilling.
00:33:32
Zack
accessibility takes a
00:33:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's fine, more for me.
00:33:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, no, Hardee's is rolling out their candied bacon promo for the next three months, limited time. um Meals, so they got candy bacon egg and cheese Biscuits, they've got the fresco burger when you add the candied bacon to it and then they have new maple um Glazed biscuits in the morning.
00:33:55
Zack
I did that.
00:33:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's like a cinnamon roll, but it's a biscuit I've been eating a little bit more hardies here lately and They're back. I think they they went ah they went away for a little while they lost who they were they started putting pork sandwiches on top of their burgers and 10 pounds of onion rings and ah just they got crazy and they had to go away for a little while and find themselves and get back to the roots of just normal plain cheeseburgers with normal toppings.
00:34:30
Zack
I like that heart is back They did do the marketing their thing was always like rugged burgers, you know like big Yeah, they were those marketing for hand-in-hand I think
00:34:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hardys is back. 2025 is the year of Hardys.
00:34:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, for yeah, that or half naked women,
00:34:40
Mason
Like you were getting heartburn. Yeah.
00:34:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, it was that and like guys who drive big big trucks eat these giant cheeseburgers and then this girl's in a bikini.
00:34:48
Zack
We're the man who burrs.
00:34:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Come eat our cheeseburger.
00:34:55
Zack
We like trucks and women. And burgers.
00:35:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And bacon.
00:35:01
Zack
Yes. That's right. I think that's right.
00:35:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
What's better than a cheeseburger? A pulled pork sandwich on a cheeseburger.
00:35:08
Zack
Did you go there in the mornings?
00:35:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, their breakfast third breakfast is elite.
00:35:11
Zack
I feel like there's a big time elderly crowd at the Hardee's.
00:35:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, there's one during peak where I was driving in Hartsville. um There's a Hardee's on the way just tucked, you know, in the country. And it was always packed with a bunch of old people.
00:35:28
Zack
Yeah.
00:35:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But the drive through was always available.
00:35:29
Zack
I've got to do it like senior discounts, I think.
00:35:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Probably.
00:35:36
Zack
Some of them there.
00:35:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their app's pretty, pretty good too. Lots of rewards.
00:35:40
Zack
you
00:35:40
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Plug in all the food apps. If you don't have, if you're, if you're eating fast food and you're not using the app to order it in the year of 2025, you're you're just, yeah, throw your money in a toilet and flush it down there.
00:35:44
Zack
Go money away.
00:35:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause you're just wasting it.
00:35:53
Zack
Okay.
00:35:53
Mason
I've had some, I've had some hot takes.
00:35:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't ever pay sticker price on a fast food bill ever in my life.
00:35:53
Zack
like
00:35:57
Zack
Not a single time.
00:36:00
Mason
Sorry.
00:36:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, here we go.
00:36:00
Mason
I've had some hot takes on the, uh, the drafts. No, my favorite game that we've ever done that I thought I was real, like really good at intensely was as well was where we had $10 and you could use all the apps and try to figure out how much food you could get.
00:36:11
Zack
Yeah.
00:36:14
Mason
Cause that's where I thrive. Like I'll just be like, Hmm, why am I in the mood for it? Depends on what deals there are. That's where i and you just jump between all the apps.
00:36:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Morgan is mad at me because she'd be like, just go through the drive. I'm like, hey, is the app's being slow. One second. I haven't ordered it. She's like, just go through the drive through. Never, never again in my life am I going through a drive through and just ordering off your menu.
00:36:35
Zack
No, sometimes sometimes i'll even pick carry out like if it's during lunch Because I know that the drive through lines can be super long with people ordering Traditionally and i'm like I can just go in and grab it.
00:36:42
Mason
yeah
00:36:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
what What losers.
00:36:49
Mason
Yep.
00:36:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Ordering traditionally just ordering straight off the menu. Yeah, I'll take a number three at full price, please What I get that on the discount on the app on the appie and a free reward to dumb dumbs Learn ball gamers All right
00:36:58
Zack
they want you to do
00:37:04
Mason
He hit him with the dum-dums.
00:37:06
Zack
got
00:37:09
Zack
gamemer
00:37:12
Zack
OK, I've got a press release and then we can get into some football talk. Press release. This is a highly hotly anticipated series coming in March.
00:37:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
00:37:25
Mason
Mm.
00:37:25
Zack
Trailer big trailer come out today. That would be the Daredevil series on Disney Plus. ah You guys seen the trailer?
00:37:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I did.
00:37:36
Mason
Dead. Yep.
00:37:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It was something.
00:37:37
Zack
ah We saw some people. We saw Kingpin is back.
00:37:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:37:43
Zack
He is now the mayor, it seems.
00:37:46
Mason
Yeah, I was like, how did that happen? Last I saw you got hit by a car.
00:37:50
Zack
Oh yeah, he was nearly...
00:37:53
Mason
And Hawkeye, right? Last time we saw him Hawkeye series got shot and hit by a car.
00:37:57
Zack
No, he got shot, I think. Like in the face.
00:38:01
Mason
I thought someone ran through a building with a car. Is that the same actor, by the way? I couldn't really.
00:38:05
Zack
Oh yeah, it's all the same actors, or most of them at least.
00:38:06
Mason
Okay. It's been a hot minute.
00:38:09
Zack
The Punisher is back, Jon Bernthal. We don't know how big of a role he'll play, but he was in the trailer. The original cast um from the Daredevil TV show is back as well. So um pretty exciting.
00:38:21
Zack
Karen Foggy, the whole cast of characters. It was a pretty violent trailer, which is good news, honestly, for Daredevil fans.
00:38:29
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that was my takeaway.
00:38:32
Zack
Um, no people were afraid of the Disneyfication of Daredevil. It's not a very Disney friendly character, but it seems like they're, they're all in and they're just going to, uh, to lean into some of the violence and and kind of the you the vibe of the original show, which was very dark.
00:38:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. students
00:38:48
Zack
It was very violent, very bloody, a lot of fighting. You know, it was 60% just fighting hand-to-hand combat.
00:38:58
Mason
I'm here for it.
00:38:58
Zack
Punisher was like 80% just gun combat.
00:39:02
Mason
I feel like if you're worried about Disney cleaning it up, you got to remember Deadpool.
00:39:02
Zack
Uh, good shows though. Check them out.
00:39:11
Zack
That's true.
00:39:11
Mason
Like I think Disney is like, okay with.
00:39:14
Zack
I wasn't sure like a Disney plus property though.
00:39:18
Mason
Yeah.
00:39:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Right.
00:39:18
Zack
The Disney plus properties have been Hawkeye and like She-Hulk and yeah, not necessarily as heavy and as dark.
00:39:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Moon Knight.
00:39:24
Mason
WandaVision.
00:39:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:39:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
that That was my big takeaway from the trailer was that it looked like they were going to hold true to what Daredevil is and, ah you know, keep it. they They didn't take it to PG-13 land.
00:39:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
it They kept it R and it's going to be a little gruesome, a little bloody.
00:39:45
Zack
Yep.
00:39:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And I think that'll be good because I was worried about that. I was worried about it not being true to like Daredevil's comics and and how the Netflix show was.
00:40:01
Zack
Agree. I'm excited. I think it'll be fun.
00:40:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I saw sticking to Disney stuff.
00:40:09
Zack
Yep.
00:40:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Did you see that Skeleton Crew was the least viewed Star Wars property to be released in the last five years?
00:40:15
Mason
Mm.
00:40:18
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I haven't watched it yet.
00:40:19
Zack
Which I've actually heard is not bad.
00:40:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I've heard it's, yeah, I've heard it's decent, but like apparently Disney's gonna have to do something.
00:40:26
Zack
I know.
00:40:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Disney's going to have to just like hit pause
00:40:29
Zack
And or is not going to get as good as and or it's going to be probably.
00:40:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, like Disney's gonna have to just come out and be like, okay, look, we know you guys are mad right now about some stuff. Um, we're going to fix it. Please, please don't give up because I
00:40:44
Mason
Did it just get off the rails and everybody doesn't care anymore? Because that's what I feel like. I just don't really care.
00:40:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
feel like ah they've put the horse, the cart before the horse.
00:40:51
Zack
thought of mediocre content in a row off yeah i think they have this
00:40:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. They just keep pumping out bad. It's like, I didn't even like the last season of Mandalorian.
00:41:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The Book of Boba Fett, in my opinion, was trash. Acolyte had potential until it didn't.
00:41:13
Zack
They fell into like the same thing Marvel did of the like, the volume was too high and they were working too hard to put out too much stuff and we're less concerned about this is actually good.
00:41:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:41:24
Zack
Like, well, do people want this story?
00:41:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, exactly.
00:41:28
Zack
Um, yeah.
00:41:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think they need to just start fresh. We need to wrap up everything they have now in a bow and then start on a different timeline of the Star Wars universe and go from there and do something cool.
00:41:44
Zack
I mean, part of what helped to like revitalize, like relaunch it, like with Force Awakens was the huge gap between like the last Star Wars project.
00:41:50
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:41:53
Zack
um And the same thing for like the the prequel trilogy they did. It feels like there is there's always something and it's just, it's kind of diluting itself.
00:42:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:42:04
Zack
You lose the, yeah, the concentration of it. It becomes just a little bit more,
00:42:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So.
00:42:14
Zack
Meh. More you have.
00:42:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Official statement is I'm worried about Star Wars as a big Star Wars fan is someone who tries to like stuff like i I don't tend to just like, oh, that sucked just to say it sucks.
00:42:19
Zack
So we're in trouble?
00:42:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um I want to like, I like want to like stuff um like I wanted to like, like I really did.
00:42:26
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I wanted it to be good.
00:42:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They, and it had potential. And then they tried to save it at the end by just throwing young Yoda and, uh, Plagueis at us.
00:42:34
Zack
Yeah.
00:42:37
Zack
I did not watch that one.
00:42:44
Zack
spoilers.
00:42:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Spoilers for a show that's canceled.
00:42:47
Mason
Spoiler.
00:42:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
but
00:42:52
Zack
I mean, I don't think appealing to a younger audience is a bad thing, like, like, like a kid's type Star Wars show.
00:42:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No.
00:43:00
Zack
But I think you also I mean, that's what they've tried to do is you know, they've tried to spread the love and do some do more animated stuff and then also have Andor and or and ah do the whole thing which Andor season two is going to be maybe one of the biggest Star Wars projects in a long time.
00:43:15
Zack
I think there's a chance that that's huge.
00:43:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm-hmm. It's gonna have to carry a lot of weight.
00:43:19
Zack
Yeah.
00:43:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah Need it need it need it to get everyone back on the ship football time in America
00:43:19
Zack
Because everyone, because indoor season one was so big. I think there's a chance that Anderson two becomes a big thing. So who knows?
00:43:32
Zack
is worried everybody Okay. Uh, is it football time?
00:43:40
Mason
let's do it
00:43:41
Zack
As far as i'm concerned we can push some of our uh national championship talk to our Well,
00:43:47
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got some national championship talk for you real quick.
00:43:50
Zack
it'll be monday morning I guess so maybe we should
00:43:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
a That's where I'm at on the national championship.
00:43:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Honestly.
00:44:01
Zack
I don't I don't mean to be a hater like I don't want to just be like we've we've spent
00:44:06
Mason
Let's do it.
00:44:08
Zack
You know Eight months talking about clock ball every twice a week and it feels it feels wrong to be like, all right last game of the season um Championship and hmm.
00:44:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:19
Zack
Yeah Is it the team's part of it? There is a piece It definitely didn't help
00:44:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
how we got here, part of it. The seating was so bad. The seating was a joke.
00:44:34
Zack
Do I've heard this this discourse some do you just the fact that? Ohio State didn't even play like in their conference championship had ah the one of the worst losses in the country and then Has gone on this run.
00:44:48
Zack
Does that affect anything?
00:44:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:44:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I think conference championships got to go. Because of that.
00:44:56
Mason
Mm.
00:44:57
Zack
think They probably will
00:44:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think it's because because now there's really no reason.
00:45:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It.
00:45:06
Zack
no
00:45:07
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Especially because they they have to get rid of the automatic buys for the four conference champions like that can't we can't do that again next year.
00:45:11
Zack
No.
00:45:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Arizona State and Boise State should not have ever had a buy in any world.
00:45:20
Zack
I think they could have been in the first round and just got, I mean, Arizona State put up a good fight, obviously against Texas. So I don't know.
00:45:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But Texas was bad because Quentin Evers sucks.
00:45:28
Zack
I think Texas was not great. It is hard to, um, it's hard to say if if i were being like a total hater you could say things like um the playoff has also diluted down the regular season a little bit and that was the differentiating factor between the nfl a lot i'm not i'm honestly not saying that's my take i don't think it um but i've you hear it because the traditionalist like my dad is a traditionalist he would say this he would say
00:45:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I don't agree with that take at all. I know. I know you're not. I'm just saying for anyone who thinks that. Yeah.
00:45:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He would yell this.
00:45:58
Zack
Back in the day, regular season games mattered a lot. You would say back in Tennessee, Florida was a de facto SEC championship game, week three.
00:46:09
Zack
You lose that game, your season's done, like you're cooked.
00:46:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, they also back in the day voted on who won the national championship.
00:46:13
Zack
And it meant something.
00:46:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that's how you got Nebraska and someone else who split a national championship one day.
00:46:17
Zack
Also true.
00:46:20
Zack
It's a fact.
00:46:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So what are we doing here?
00:46:22
Zack
where in the nf in the NFL, you have a reality where a seven-win New York Giants team can beat an undefeated Patriots team, and they're a Super Bowl champion.
00:46:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
True, true, because they snuck in.
00:46:38
Zack
which it's it's It's been a different model for a long time, and the model is blurring.
00:46:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:46:45
Zack
as as The more we expand the playoff, the more it will border. So it's an interesting conversation. I don't know.
00:46:53
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It is tweaking, I think, I think we'll keep tweaking and refining it. This is the first year of it.
00:46:59
Zack
I hate doing this like before it's even over, before the championship game even happens.
00:46:59
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I do think it just.
00:47:04
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:47:06
Zack
Yeah.
00:47:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think people would feel differently if Ohio State was just in, was in the Big 10 championship game and lost. Um, I felt that people would do that. Okay. You know, they, they deserve to be there.
00:47:16
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They went to their conference championship game. They finished third in their conference and got in.
00:47:20
Zack
forth.
00:47:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, they finished four. Oh yeah.
00:47:23
Zack
Oregon, Penn State, Indiana.
00:47:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Cause of, uh, yeah, technically. Yeah. Cause of Indiana.
00:47:27
Zack
I only had one loss, yep.
00:47:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Well, what a joke that was.
00:47:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So yeah, I don't know. It's, I liked it.
00:47:34
Zack
We also have another damn team who lost in Northern Indiana, which
00:47:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I feel like.
00:47:39
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Forever join a conference or get out.
00:47:44
Zack
Traditionally, I mean before this season probably would have disqualified them completely from the maybe not this season out there They would have been right on the border probably with that loss Now here we are National Championship Wild ride I mean it does typically sometimes you in the NFL you get to where you feel like the the AFC or NFC championship is like the de facto Super Bowl you get that sometimes
00:47:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
hu
00:47:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:48:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. We're like one side of like for a few years, it's kind of felt like the NFC was significantly weaker than the AFC where it's like, okay, the real Superbowl was Bill's chiefs because those are the best two teams, but yeah.
00:48:21
Zack
Yeah. Right.
00:48:28
Zack
So, I mean, it happens. It's going to happen. It has to. You won't always get the best two teams playing each other.
00:48:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, which you never do in a tournament style of, of, uh, getting to a championship.
00:48:34
Zack
Because there's too many variables.
00:48:38
Zack
Sometimes you do, and it's electric.
00:48:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:48:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But even then, I don't even know who, I mean, truly, if you look back at this college football season, who, who are the best two teams?
00:48:49
Zack
Yeah, that's the opportunity.
00:48:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like at times at at times, Ohio state was the best team at times. Oregon was, uh, I mean, I don't think you could say that about Georgia.
00:48:54
Zack
Yeah.
00:48:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Texas was probably the best at sometimes. Like, I don't know. It's just been a weird college football season.
00:49:02
Zack
Ask, maybe indicative of of a future. Who knows?
00:49:07
Zack
Who knows?
00:49:08
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Not I.
00:49:09
Zack
Okay.
00:49:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
But yeah, out yeah we'll di we'll dive a little bit more in on Sunday.
00:49:10
Zack
Ask me to call for welcome to everybody.
00:49:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'll have ah have some more notes. I've been focused a little bit more on NFL because of the coaching cycle and playoffs playoffs have been a lot of fun.
00:49:19
Mason
yeah
00:49:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They didn't start out super fun.
00:49:23
Zack
Yeah.
00:49:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We had some really kind of boring blowouts. All the home teams were demolishing people for a little while, but yes.
00:49:30
Zack
We got a fun one coming up, though.
00:49:34
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, this weekend's gonna be electric.
00:49:36
Zack
It'll be him. Yeah.
00:49:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Some very fun matchups, yeah.
00:49:38
Mason
Should we talk about it?
00:49:39
Zack
we'll We'll get there. Yeah, let's do it.
00:49:42
Mason
Okay, let's go in order and the Houston Texans had the first game of the wild card.
00:49:43
Zack
OK.
00:49:48
Mason
They have the first game of the divisional round.
00:49:51
Zack
Gross.
00:49:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So there'll be the first ones eliminated out of the division around No prime time slot for CJ shroud, huh?
00:49:51
Mason
not be it the
00:49:55
Mason
The Texans at the Chiefs. This is a 4.30 Eastern time on Saturday. and
00:50:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I know a quarterback who's only been the playoffs once and he got prime time slotting CJ shroud forever loser
00:50:10
Zack
This guy.
00:50:14
Mason
I love that we, well, he wasn't here last Wednesday, but we're like, yep, he's not, uh, you've not been, had 0% faith in CJ and they got through the first round.
00:50:25
Mason
ah And so I used to.
00:50:26
Zack
okay This guy.
00:50:26
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oo Lottie dot Lottie die you beat the Chargers Trevor Lawrence spotted the Chargers 27 points the playoff game is still one No, that's a lot of points
00:50:30
Mason
ah
00:50:35
Mason
Didn't happen. Okay, real quick. So, um Chiefs are minus eight and a half point favorite. The Chiefs did play Houston earlier, or, well, I mean,
00:50:46
Mason
not so long ago in week 16, 27 to 19. Kansas City has won six straight divisional playoff games at home under Amy Reid. However, I told you that spread is eight and a half points. However, Kansas City is zero and six against the spread when favored by seven or more points this season. Thoughts, comments, questions?
00:51:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
ah Yeah, Chief don't ever seem to perform well as big favorites. um I'm going to lean on the fact that Andy Reid has had two weeks to prepare. Andy Reid off of a bye week is like 13 and four in his career. Like he's he's a monster off the bye week. So give me Andy Reid in Patrick Mahomes minus eight and a half. I'm a bump into 10.
00:51:36
Zack
Mmm.
00:51:37
Mason
What could possibly go wrong, fading the Texans?
00:51:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Oh, we're gonna act like the Texans were some ah against the spread money maker all season.
00:51:46
Mason
I mean, no, we're not. but that that de was it that that Herbert was bad or that that defense was really good last week.
00:51:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, thank you.
00:51:53
Mason
I watched the game. i mean
00:51:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Two of those interceptions were like the dorky wide receiver did the dumb thing where they're playing volleyball all of a sudden with the football.
00:51:55
Mason
i
00:52:01
Mason
Well, Herbert, his first, was it his first interception? He ran to the right and did the, you should never do running to the right and throw it to the left.
00:52:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that was bad. He did the Brett Favre. Yeah, that was bad. But the other two, I don't even put on him.
00:52:14
Mason
What do you think Zach?
00:52:17
Zack
Yeah, I agree. I think the reality is that there's a pretty high chances to blow out.
00:52:24
Mason
Okay. And there you go.
00:52:24
Zack
And more than what will happen in the playoffs, I just don't think that the Texans have got it in them. I think the Chiefs are not a team that's going to come out of a bye week slow. I know the rest are first-rest thing is a big conversation.
00:52:37
Zack
I just don't see it. This Chiefs team has been here too many times. They're not going to get blindsided by the Texans.
00:52:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're not gonna get tripped up in the second round.
00:52:44
Zack
I just don't see it happening.
00:52:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:52:45
Zack
Sorry.
00:52:47
Mason
Is this a game that Zach was most excited about Washington commanders at Detroit lines?
00:52:49
Zack
ah
00:52:53
Zack
Could be fun commander shocked the world I love I love an underdog story you Don't they feel don't those games feel different though
00:52:54
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's gonna be a fun one.
00:52:55
Mason
he Zach's commander, Zach was on, this was the the underdog he was on and they did it. So Saturday night, eight o'clock Eastern time. ah This is at Ford Field in Detroit and the lines are a nine and a half point favorite. I wouldn't be fooled by this though.
00:53:16
Zack
Texans chiefs and then that they're both big spreads, but don't they just feel very different games Yeah, like there's a couple a couple things the other way like like it can be fun the guy he's why
00:53:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
00:53:21
Mason
Yes.
00:53:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Commanders feel like they have like a like ah a puncher's chance, but like it.
00:53:27
Mason
For sure.
00:53:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Yeah.
00:53:31
Mason
You get that boxer that's an underdog, but all they need is one hit, you know.
00:53:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And Jane Daniels can do that hit like Jane Daniels. I I was 1000% wrong on Jane Daniels and I'm here to admit it.
00:53:43
Mason
Guess who was right, or guess who was high on them, I know.
00:53:46
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Guess who guess who took a bet for him to throw for 3000 yards?
00:53:47
Zack
Rookie of the Year.
00:53:50
Mason
I did. And he got it by 4,000, I think.
00:53:52
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yes Before you go pony around like you're the Jane Daniels ah Media outlet you're here like saying how Jane Daniels and Caleb Williams didn't deserve Rookie of the Year and you were gonna take bow nicks at plus 1400
00:53:54
Mason
I could have bought that sucker up if only he could bet up player props. But yeah, it was a...
00:54:05
Mason
and That was one of my bets.
00:54:14
Mason
That was my dark horse. Ice and it didn't pan out. Real quick stat.
00:54:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
o nexts He's a bow lever over here.
00:54:22
Mason
jerry
00:54:23
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mason is.
00:54:25
Mason
Hey, you got to the playoffs.
00:54:25
Zack
i bad yeah
00:54:26
Mason
It didn't look too bad.
00:54:27
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, he's fine. Yeah, he's fine.
00:54:30
Mason
Jared Goff has particularly played better at home. 21 touchdowns, six interceptions and a 110.3 passer rating at home this season.
00:54:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, this.
00:54:43
Mason
Montgomery's back.
00:54:44
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Montgomery's back. I like the over in this game. I want to take the commanders, but I feel like everyone wants to take commanders after they upset the, you know, they were the underdog last week against the Bucks.
00:54:47
Mason
Deep.
00:54:55
Mason
Mm hmm.
00:54:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They're the fun story. Jane Daniels is electric. I feel like they're never out of it, but I think end up looking up at this the score of this game and it's like Lions 37.
00:55:11
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Washington 21. And it's like, oh, I thought this would have been a little closer, but good fight out of the commanders. They're definitely ahead of schedule. I don't think they planned on being here.
00:55:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Their team, like I saw where like nine of their starters came from free agency and they're all very like, like pretty, pretty vet players where they went and signed them just to kind of get, get this thing rolling.
00:55:22
Mason
No. Hmm.
00:55:35
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Like Dante Fowler is a starter starting defensive end for them. Dante Fowler Jr. was drafted in like 2015, I think.
00:55:40
Mason
Hmm. Um, that's the highest total of any game this week.
00:55:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
or 14.
00:55:51
Mason
Weekend is 55 and a half.
00:55:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I love the over. Yeah, I love that over. Washington's defense isn't great.
00:55:56
Mason
Texas Chiefs is surprisingly low from 41 and a half. That kind of shocks me a little bit. That's the lowest one of the weekend.
00:56:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. Lions defense also struggles against mobile quarterbacks. Aaron Glenn is, um, he's pretty dead set on playing man coverage. And what happens is you saw it when when they played the bills, all the, all the cover guys have their backs to the quarterback. What's Jane Daniels going to do? He's going to take off for 15 yards, just like Josh Allen did. So I like, I like, I liked the over quite a bit.
00:56:30
Mason
Okay. Zach, any thoughts before we move on?
00:56:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
My Jane Daniels rush prop too. I'll try to take that.
00:56:37
Mason
It's good.
00:56:37
Zack
taking commanders what's
00:56:38
Mason
It's a good bet.
00:56:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Take commanders plus eight and a half, you said.
00:56:41
Zack
nine i don't know about that that would be awesome fun
00:56:42
Mason
Money line, baby.
00:56:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Plus nine.
00:56:44
Mason
Take a money line.
00:56:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Little sprinkled ankle.
00:56:48
Mason
Okay. Uh, next one is the LA Rams at the Eagles. This will be on Sunday, uh, 3 PM Eastern time.
00:56:54
Zack
game sorry
00:56:57
Mason
Do it.
00:56:59
Zack
i was saying this would be a fun game
00:57:00
Mason
Oh, no, you're fine. At Lincoln Financial Field, Eagles six point favorite. So far, all big spreads. We're about to get to one that's a little ah closer, but um the Eagles beat the Rams in l LA in week 12, 37 to 20.
00:57:09
Zack
Involve.
00:57:18
Mason
But a lot has changed since then. The Rams are six and one since then. On the flip side, this game is at, I already said, Lincoln Financial Field, where the Eagles are eight and one this season.
00:57:30
Mason
um Matthew Stafford had 243 yards and two touchdowns in the first meeting, but he also took five sacks from four different Eagles So that's the key to me is if the Eagles can pressure Stafford the same way like they did earlier in the season I Will say I felt like hurts was knocking off some of the rest a little bit in that last game Which he didn't really need to throw like crazy, but I really do think that he'll have to rely on hitting those actual um
00:57:37
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Mm hmm.
00:57:58
Mason
I mean, A.J. Brown, I know he's been talk of the week, but he only had one catch, and Hurts was kind of overthrown or missing some. He won't be ah able to afford that to keep up with this. Sean McVeigh and ah so far Matthew Stafford's offense has been looking pretty good, so.
00:58:18
Zack
You're talking about sacks, Mason. What about the nine sacks the Rams had last week?
00:58:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yep.
00:58:22
Zack
Jalen Hurts, concussion boy, kids goes down a couple times.
00:58:22
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The, yep.
00:58:22
Mason
It's true. Look at that. Look at that, yeah.
00:58:28
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. This, this Rams defense, you know, a lot of rookies, they're, they're starting defensive line after losing Aaron Donald to retirement. Uh, Caleb Turner is a second year player, Jared verse rookie, um the other defensive tackle that they got from Florida State rookie, and then Byron Young second year player. A lot of four young dudes that are have figured it out as the season went here.
00:58:55
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And then two starting safeties or rookies as well. But this their defense has gotten better and better each week, where they're a strength now for the Rams. I love the Rams in this game. there Their offensive line has gotten healthy, and they've kind of figured out some some better protection plans to keep Stafford from getting hit.
00:58:55
Mason
Thank you.
00:59:12
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I'm taking the Rams' money line.
00:59:15
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I think there's something off about the Eagles.
00:59:16
Zack
I'm also financially invested in the Rams right now.
00:59:17
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Jalen Hurts has been off.
00:59:19
Zack
So, the intents got an early Rams Super Bowl future.
00:59:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I'm pretty invested in the Rams.
00:59:24
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We sure did a few weeks ago. So, hey, it's come down. Cash out is at plus money right now. We took them at plus 3,500. They're now down to 22.
00:59:33
Mason
Mm.
00:59:35
Zack
Mm hmm.
00:59:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
oh
00:59:37
Zack
They win this week.
00:59:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Investing, buying Google when it was a penny stock.
00:59:39
Zack
Yeah.
00:59:41
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That's what we do with Super Bowl futures.
00:59:46
Mason
It's not bad. Zach, are you on the Rams as well?
00:59:51
Zack
Yeah, I agree. I think that I mean, the Eagles have been good this season. I was pretty invested in the Eagles at the season because of my fantasy team. I feel like I always do this, but I just feel like they're not as dominant as their record shows.
01:00:09
Zack
And I feel i feel like there's there's weaknesses.
01:00:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah.
01:00:11
Zack
So that's where I'm at. I think the Rams make it fun. I think it'd be a fun game, like a defensive kind of game.
01:00:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah. I think it's gonna be low scoring and low scoring one possession game. Give me the veteran quarterback who, who has seen it all. I mean, Stafford's played in Lake for what, like 15 years or something.
01:00:30
Zack
Jaylen Hurt is not a veteran quarterback.
01:00:33
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's, he's veteran. He's veteran, but he's not as veteran as Matthew Stafford. In crunch time, give me the guy who who has got is gone in one games, not the guy who's fighting with his best receiver and not be Jalen Hurtson, AJ Brown.
01:00:52
Mason
There you go. OK, I was talking closer spreads last game, Baltimore Ravens at the Bills. ah It actually opened it and this actually opened as a bills as a favorite and now it's flipped to the Ravens minus one and a half.
01:01:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
It's easy.
01:01:09
Mason
So you don't.
01:01:09
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Public public dogs go to die Happens of public
01:01:12
Mason
There you go. but The Ravens beat the Bills, uh, earlier this season, 35 to 10. However, that was in week four. So watch changed since then.
01:01:23
Mason
And that was in Baltimore. This game is in Buffalo. Like I said, where the bills are nine and oh, this season, it's
01:01:32
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, the the bills have gotten healthier.
01:01:33
Mason
on Sunday at 6 PM.
01:01:36
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
They kept Von Miller on a snap count all year to keep him fresh for the playoffs. You saw that last week. Von Miller was a menace to society. um I guess the Broncos.
01:01:46
Mason
Mm.
01:01:49
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Um, getting Milano back last week or I guess the week before, but yet last week was his first start. They're starting linebacker middle linebacker. Who's he's one who calls the plays. He gets everybody lined up. He's one of the best linebackers in the league. Getting him back is huge. It's going to be huge for stopping a guy like Derek Henry. So I love the bills. I promise the bills. One thing for the season started that I was on bringing him a super bowl.
01:02:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And it's either gonna be, I'm carrying the bills and the Rams right now. I'm gonna put them both on my back and we're gonna get them to the Super Bowl and let the best man win.
01:02:21
Zack
I like that.
01:02:22
Mason
There you go.
01:02:25
Zack
But I also like Derek Henry. I'm on Derek Henry. um I don't like my heart.
01:02:28
Mason
Yeah.
01:02:32
Mason
We saw what he did last week.
01:02:32
Zack
Yeah. I'm on the Ravens.
01:02:34
Mason
It was insane.
01:02:34
Zack
I like the Ravens here. This feels like one of the spots where the Bills have a pieces and can't put it together. Like they're... That's one of those vintage Bills performances, you know?
01:02:45
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, that comes next week. Heartbreaking fashion,
01:02:48
Zack
Well, that's true. That is written in stone.
01:02:50
Mason
You're not wrong about that. But listen, it's just like when they were trying to stop Derek Henry, first of all, he would just fist, uh, he would just ah face arm them in the face.
01:03:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Stiff arm in the face.
01:03:00
Mason
But then also there.
01:03:01
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
There you go.
01:03:01
Zack
Face armed them in the face.
01:03:02
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Face arm them in the face.
01:03:03
Mason
Thank you. Words are amazing. But also then Lamar would just be like, you know what? I'm just going to take it off myself. Like it was just good looks.
01:03:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
So that's where to be real football nerdy real quick, is that the Steelers have a very, they don't know how to defend RPO.
01:03:14
Zack
Yep.
01:03:19
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And what they do is TJ Watt, no matter what, will go and hit the running back, whether it's kept or not. And that's why they get gashed so much. Like TJ Watt, great player and everything. One of the best defensive ends in the league.
01:03:31
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He's terrible against the run. Like his his stats and his grades will show you that he is a terrible run defender. Because he just like flies, he wants to fly up field. He doesn't, he doesn't have good gap integrity.
01:03:42
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
And that's how they get gashed all the time for, for long runs. So the Steelers are not good against the red. They weren't all year.
01:03:49
Zack
Hmm.
01:03:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
The bills are the bills are sound. They're going to do what they're supposed to do. I love the bills.
01:03:59
Mason
Zach, do you hammer?
01:04:00
Zack
Love it.
01:04:00
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I might hammer the bills. This face Mason's making at me right now because he loves Derek Henry.
01:04:02
Zack
Hammering the build.
01:04:06
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He wants to see Derek Henry win a Super Bowl on another guy's team, not his team.
01:04:07
Zack
I would like to. That's fine.
01:04:10
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
um
01:04:11
Mason
Zach's agreeing with me over here. Why are you attacking me? Zach just said it a minute ago. I was actually smiling.
01:04:17
Zack
Derek Henry put his time in. He put his time in. He knew he deserves it.
01:04:19
Mason
Listen, that's right. I also, I was smirking because I was thinking if Zach really wanted to, he could name this episode face arm, face arm in the face.
01:04:21
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Why?
01:04:30
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
He was face, Derek Henry was face arm and I'm in the face.
01:04:31
Mason
no
01:04:35
Mason
Be pretty, everybody be like, what the heck is going on? Listen, he put in his time, he put in his time, he like we ran him to death and now he's on a team where he can thrive.
01:04:38
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I have a free six. Uh-huh.
01:04:44
Zack
Agree?
01:04:46
Mason
Sue me. um My team's not in the playoffs. if we were playing If the Titans were playing them, obviously I would want my team to win more than Derek Henry would be successful. All I'm doing right now is looking forward to us botching the first overall pick.
01:04:58
Mason
But until then, I can just root for whoever I want.
01:05:01
Zack
I think, I think Raven's Eagles will be a fun Super Bowl because of the Derek Henry Saquon Barkley narrative. Like both transplanted ah running backs from bad teams get to face within the Super Bowl.
01:05:09
Mason
Mm.
Quarterback Dominance
01:05:14
Zack
That'd be kind of fun.
01:05:15
Mason
Also, both of those quarterbacks are probably the most dominant in fourth and one. Like if you have both of them, fourth and one or fourth and two, they're both running that
01:05:23
Zack
True.
Super Bowl Speculation
01:05:28
Mason
ball.
01:05:28
Mason
The quarterbacks, they're they're almost kind of similar.
01:05:30
Zack
Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts would be a fun Super Bowl quarterback matchup as well.
01:05:31
Mason
and Especially if Hertz can get back to what he has been.
01:05:38
Zack
True.
01:05:38
Mason
Last game, not so much. Just looked off. He has to get past Tinsley Super Bowl winning Rams. So we'll see about that.
Betting Strategies
01:05:47
Zack
And the Bills.
01:05:48
Mason
That's the smirk I was just making a second i ago.
01:05:51
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, my smart I think I have something I think I'm gonna do something I
01:05:55
Zack
Uh oh.
01:05:55
Mason
Something wild, something crazy.
01:05:57
Zack
With the build?
01:05:57
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I got a free $68 bet sitting in my pocket right now from DraftKings. Shout out Lad McConkie, king of the field, longest touchdown.
01:06:04
Mason
You're going to.
01:06:04
Zack
Shout out.
01:06:05
Mason
Shout out. You're going to do that exacto, aren't you? Bills win over the Rams.
01:06:13
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
No, I think I'm gonna go Rams, Chiefs. Lines over and then bills money.
01:06:19
Mason
Oh, you're going to do like a parlay for the one.
01:06:20
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
like I think I'm just gonna do a parlay right now of all the picks I just gave I do this I like give out stuff and then I don't take it and then I listen back. I'm like, oh that have been smart so This time it won't be Yep, I let I let my brain think too long and then I try to do other dumb stuff So yeah, we're gonna take that right now.
01:06:30
Zack
You gotta go with your gut. Don't overthink it.
01:06:34
Mason
Good point.
01:06:40
Zack
Love it.
01:06:43
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
I Love it
01:06:44
Zack
I will also ride with $68 on it with you.
01:06:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Wow.
01:06:48
Zack
Just kidding.
01:06:48
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
That'd be Zach's biggest bet by a thousand times.
01:06:49
Zack
I won't. I will not do that.
01:06:56
Zack
But I might, I might put a little bit though. Sprinkle.
01:06:58
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
We'll sprinkle of the dinkle.
Podcast Conclusion
01:07:03
Mason
All right, good work, everybody.
01:07:03
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Hmm.
01:07:03
Zack
Let's give me the discord for everybody.
01:07:05
Mason
Yeah, put it in the Discord.
01:07:05
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, I'll, I'll take a screenshot. We'll throw it in there.
01:07:10
Mason
Okay, is that a pod? That's pretty good, everybody.
01:07:14
Next Guy Up Podcast Network
Yeah, that's pretty all right pod.
01:07:15
Mason
All right, well,
01:07:15
Zack
but
01:07:17
Mason
All right, well, thank you everybody for listening. We appreciate you guys tuning in each and every episode. Have a good weekend. Enjoy all the football and we will catch you guys on Monday. Have a good one.