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Episode 10: World Junior Wake‑Up Call and NFL Madness
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Canada hits a turning point at the World Juniors. Olympic hockey rosters drop and the Canada–USA rivalry heats up. The NFL playoff bracket turns into pure chaos. And Black Monday leaves half the league looking for new coaches.
Leo and Lando break it all down — from Canada’s fading junior dominance, to vs. Matthews on the Olympic stage, to the most unpredictable NFL postseason in years. Plus: wild‑card matchups, surprise firings, and the one job every coach wants.
It’s Episode 10 of The Leo & Lando Show — fast, sharp, and loaded with takes. Buckle up.
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Transcript
Introduction & Episode Overview
00:00:15
Leo Ernewein
Welcome back to the Leo and Lando show. I'm your host, Leo Ernawein, and sitting across from me, the man who brings more heat than a January Chinook, Landon Lando-Semenok. Landon, how you doing, man?
00:00:26
Lando
I'm doing well, man. How are you?
00:00:28
Leo Ernewein
Not too bad, thanks. I just wanted to let our listeners know, episode 10 is here. We've got a loaded slate on the docket for you here. Canada's World Junior wake-up call, Olympic hockey rosters dropping, and the most unpredictable NFL playoff bracket in years. Oh, and also a coaching bloodbath across the league that is Black Monday. But first, yeah, anything new with you, Lando? How's the day going? You feeling fired up, feeling dangerous, or just trying to survive the week?
00:00:56
Lando
A bit of both, bit of everything. I've had a kind of a, I don't know, this week's been little interesting. hard Hard to say kind of what's going
Landon's Hearing Loss Challenges
00:01:07
Lando
on. i guess many of you probably know or maybe don't know, I'm suffering from some hearing loss. So if anybody who who knows what I'm talking about, you get...
00:01:19
Lando
tinnitus, ringing in your ear, that type of thing. it's I wouldn't say it's getting better. It's almost kind of starting to get worse, to be honest with you.
00:01:30
Lando
So anyways, yeah, it's been kind of been kind of a downer of a week, but I'm still above ground. And yeah, there's been a lot of sports been going on. lot of stuff's been happening in 2026 so far
00:01:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you're you're youre definitely right about that. That's rather unfortunate to hear about that hearing thing, though, man. that's Yeah, tinnitus is is's really crappy. that's That sucks. I'm sorry to hear that, man.
00:01:59
Lando
Thanks, dude. Yeah. And just let everybody know that if you if you ever get a chance to protect your ears, do it. And something that I kind of took a little too lightly. And and honestly, I have no idea what happened. I don't know what what what caused it or it could just be as just a whole bunch of circumstances that just it just piled up and all of a sudden it just blew up. I have no idea. So...
00:02:28
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Take care of yours folks and your eyes and your body, soul, and minds.
00:02:32
Lando
Your overall health, your overall health.
00:02:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. All that. And your teeth.
00:02:35
Lando
Oh
00:02:36
Leo Ernewein
And speaking of eyes, I'm supposed to get new glasses and still waiting for those. So we'll see how that goes. Uh,
00:02:43
Lando
oh boy.
Canada's Hockey Supremacy & Leadership
00:02:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, well, we'll start here with segment number one, though, the World Juniors, because this year made something crystal clear. Canada's automatic supremacy is gone.
00:02:55
Leo Ernewein
Three straight eliminations of the but at the at the hands of the same opponent, bronze medal this year, but the gap is still... you know It's no longer there. And even with the stacked roster, Canada couldn't really dominate when it mattered most. Let me throw this a few things your way there, Lando.
00:03:12
Leo Ernewein
Did the change matter? did the you know Canada's revamped everything, new leadership, new structure, new approach. But did did that change? like it didn there It didn't change any results, right?
00:03:25
Lando
No.
00:03:26
Lando
Other than other than it it changed to a bronze medal instead of a fifth sixth place finish, but it didn't really, yeah the results almost stayed the same pretty much, right?
00:03:40
Leo Ernewein
Am I, as a fan asking for too much because technically that is progression. is Is it am am i too spoiled of a Canadian hockey fan to think it's gold or bust every every world juniors?
00:03:54
Lando
Well, I think i have that same attitude as you there, Leo. Like, I think i think we are spoiled. I think we we think as Canadians that hockey's are sport and we should be winning it all the time.
00:04:12
Lando
And I yeah i just, i think I think a little bit of a reality check is needs to happen to us that the world has definitely caught up to us as, as far as hockey talent. And we'll, we'll get it. I'll get into a little bit more about that throughout this, this part of the segment, but that's just my feel that i think we're a little spoiled. Cause I think, i think that five straight gold medals from, I think, what was it? 2006 to somewhere in there.
00:04:42
Lando
i think that really really spoiled us to the point that, okay, well, now we're going to, we're expected to win every year at this level. And it's starting to show that the world has caught up.
00:04:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I mean, like watching that gold medal game against the Czechs, you know, Canada had the star power, but the Czechs had the structure. They had like an identity, right? Like to me, that's almost the biggest difference now.
00:05:04
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:05:07
Leo Ernewein
Canada leaning on talent instead of a team identity while there other nations are doing that. What are your thoughts on that?
00:05:15
Lando
Yeah, well i think i think I think countries are starting to show an identity and I think they're starting to figure out how to play against Canada. And and I think, like, I guess I'll get into why i think, you know, Canada's in trouble when it comes to hockey is, especially at this level, is We don't put the best... I don't think the best players actually were at this tournament. I mean, I don't know what how the scouting works. I don't know what they look at.
00:05:49
Lando
I don't know who's available. you know i mean, know obviously, there's been some talent that have gone into the Canada Hockey Canada... i don't i don't i think canada or hockey canada always put themselves at the wall, so to speak, that they they they just don't they don't seem to know how to get out of this rut. And where I'm going with this is
00:06:18
Lando
the world has caught up, like I said, but they they don't necessarily pick the right players, like I said. But what happens is is they Canada allows...
00:06:33
Lando
a certain amount of Europeans to come over and play in our CHL. And that takes the spots away from development of our own Canadian athletes. So that's part of the problem, I think, in in with the World Juniors now is we're allowing these hockey players to come over, which is, I mean, they have every right to come over here if they want, just like we have every right to...
00:06:55
Lando
go over there and play hockey. But I think that's where we're getting killed and hurt in is the fact that that's where the development's coming. so when they go play in their national
World Juniors Player Performances
00:07:06
Lando
teams, they're getting that experience.
00:07:09
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I mean, I'm torn on you know, putting all what you what you think is the best players on the ice all the time, and then also trying to build a team with an identity. And it's really hard to manage sort of an all star team, if you will, with with all those players, with with certain players not willing to accept a lesser role, right?
00:07:30
Leo Ernewein
And maybe that's why some guys didn't make the team.
00:07:31
Lando
yeah.
00:07:33
Leo Ernewein
Maybe because they weren't willing to be shot blocking, penalty kill minutes normally when they're on the power play on their on their regular squad or whatever. But, some you know, and like there's a few guys I want to talk about. Like Zane Parekh, had an incredible tournament.
00:07:48
Leo Ernewein
He had, what, like four goals, six assists or something like that going into the final game. I think it was the most points by defenseman Canadian defensemen in tournament history.
00:08:01
Leo Ernewein
So that's pretty cool. what are your What are your thoughts about his his comments about players talking about robots?
00:08:12
Lando
I kind of had a little bit of a...
00:08:12
Leo Ernewein
Or being like robots, sorry.
00:08:14
Lando
I had a little bit of a... Yeah, I know what you meant. But yeah, You know what?
00:08:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, yeah.
00:08:20
Lando
I actually... I had a chuckle about it. But I also... i kind of get what he's saying because the NHL is so structured, right? Like, it's... it's You got to play to a certain identity to win. And certain players and... all Or I guess I shouldn't say certain players. All players have to buy in, right?
00:08:40
Lando
And... when And so when you buy in, that means some of your talent that you normally have had throughout your whole career, not necessarily gets you know thrown out the window, but it always gets seems to get put aside. for And and i think for Zane Precht, I think as a young player, i think he needs to accept that you're a young player,
00:09:08
Lando
Coaches expect certain things out of you. It may not be necessary the things that you want to do, but you have, you might have to do that until, you know, a certain age that you can, you know, maybe go back to your old talents or maybe this is your new talent. I'm not sure, but I just, I think Zane Parekh, it was a big life lesson at a young age. And, and also I think, you know,
00:09:37
Lando
The difference between the NHL Calgary Flames and the and Team Canada is that Zane Precht isn't the guy in Calgary. He was the guy in Canada. And I think that's where his frustration came out. And so, honestly, I don't have a problem with it. But it's good good for him to step up and say, you know what, I i apologize to my teammates in Calgary. Because, yeah, I mean, some people probably took it the wrong way. But I didn't have a problem with it. I kind of understood what he was saying.
00:10:06
Leo Ernewein
I thought it was hilarious. I love seeing players have a bit more lighthearted stuff or lighthearted personalities, if you will. And it's total classic NHL to ream him out on that you know, being like, oh, why don't players have personalities? And then he goes, oh, players are acts like robots. ahaha And then they ream them out. And of course, now every other answer he ever gives is going to have no personality. So it's kind of a shame, or at least I think that that's how it'll go. But, you know, I get from an organizational standpoint,
00:10:42
Leo Ernewein
where they're coming from. I'm also super excited here in Calgary to see what Zane Pratt can do in the future. I'm really excited for his game. It's going to be awesome.
00:10:53
Leo Ernewein
And that tournament was just the start, I think. Another guy, I'm going to jump over to Brady Martin here. I thought he was a huge difference maker throughout most of the tournament.
00:11:04
Leo Ernewein
And i think he went down in the first period, right? He got first?
00:11:11
Leo Ernewein
Was it first or
00:11:11
Lando
trying to think here i first or so i think it was the beginning of the second period
00:11:16
Leo Ernewein
I know Brady Martin went down and as soon as that happened, I was, I was like, oh, this could be a difference maker.
00:11:24
Lando
and it was wasn't it yeah yeah like it was it was shocking actually
00:11:25
Leo Ernewein
Oh yeah. More so than I thought even.
00:11:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Forced to leave. Doesn't really say when in this article here.
00:11:37
Lando
I thought it was, I knew it was, I knew his first period for sure.
00:11:38
Leo Ernewein
So,
00:11:41
Lando
Possibly
Canada's Olympic Hockey Lineup
00:11:42
Lando
the beginning of the second period, but yeah, he had a heck of a turn.
00:11:45
Leo Ernewein
early in the game.
00:11:46
Lando
Yeah. He had a heck of a tournament and I thought Michael Hage, my goodness, did he have a tournament too, right?
00:11:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:11:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:11:54
Lando
Like he was, yeah, like it was just, it was really, really neat to see how much of it.
00:11:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:12:00
Lando
And then the San Jose Sharks guy, i've I've lost his name that he came over. he he started getting better and better and better too, right? So, yeah, it was just, it was too bad that they, you know, I think, you know, like I said at the start, I i think Canada really needs to reevaluate what they're doing as a as an organization and realize that, you know,
00:12:25
Lando
The Czech Republic is starting to catch up. Obviously, the Americans are good. The Swedes are always going be good. I mean, Finland's kind of having, a you know, they've been kind of doing a little bit of roller coaster, but they're always in it. So I think think Canada needs to reevaluateate reevaluate what they're doing as far as what what are the other countries doing and and implement that. And it's also, you like you said, it's hard It's hard when you have a you know a whole bunch of players across the country and you need to gel together real quick. But I think if you pick, like I said, if you pick the best players and then you fill those roles after you pick the best players, and I know we'll talk about that in the Olympics, Olympic talk next segment, but if you pick the best players and you fill those roles with those players, I'm sure players will adapt.
00:13:19
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, no, I definitely, I agree, man. Like, I think the Sharks guy you were referencing was Michael Misa, right?
00:13:26
Lando
Michael Masey, Yes, Michael Masey,
00:13:27
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, yeah. There's, a you know, talk about a solidified, I remember hearing about Michael Misa maybe like four or five years ago when I was playing NHL.
00:13:38
Leo Ernewein
God, this would have been mayho maybe 2019, 2020.
00:13:42
Lando
yeah.
00:13:43
Leo Ernewein
And I would sim like four or five years into a franchise. And the last real prospects available, it was Michael Mises draft year. And he was always projected as a franchise type player. And I was oh, this kid's going to be good.
00:13:57
Leo Ernewein
And I just, I want to shift things a little bit to shift gears towards Gavin McKenna versus the Ivor Stenberg kind of case now, because it seems like Keaton Verhoff has dropped to number two in the NHL mock draft rankings kind of thing.
00:14:12
Leo Ernewein
Do you think that Stenberg looked really good all tournament, like better than Gavin McKenna? What, what do you think?
00:14:20
Lando
I agree. I'm glad you brought up Gavin McKenna because... i I, again, even though he had a lot more points this year than he did last year, i was actually really disappointed in him. i For a guy who is projected to be number one, I think he's got a little bit more growing to do.
00:14:41
Lando
And like I said, mean I know there's a lot of pressure on on a young teenager to, you know, perform and beat and have high expectations. But when you when you play at at a top level and you're expected B, you need to go into those dirty areas to to score. And I thought he did a lot more perimeter stuff. It was almost like He didn't want to get into the nitty gritty type of thing, and i guess that's not really I guess that's not really his game, but if he wants to get into the NHL, he's going have to figure that out.
00:15:20
Leo Ernewein
And he has the size to do it. So it's like, he could be really good at that part of his, like a power forward time of two way forward style player, but he wants to be a sniper.
00:15:28
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:15:30
Leo Ernewein
He wants to be a playmaker. He wants like, and when we were watching world juniors in the past, we'd see guys like McDavid, Crosby, McKinnon, you know,
00:15:44
Leo Ernewein
and more recently, Conor Bedard and even Celebrini, they had some great tournaments. Like, Bedard was electric, and don't get me wrong, like, McKenna didn't... He wasn't... He wasn't bad, but he didn't... It looked like those other guys that were a year or two ahead of him, like Michael Hage and Michael Misa.
00:16:07
Leo Ernewein
I guess Michael Hage is two years ahead? I'm not sure. But some of those guys... were playing like they were two years ahead of them. And in my opinion, when, when Connor Bedard was on the ice, some of those guys that were two years ahead of them weren't playing like they were, I shouldn't say they weren't playing. They were playing like that too, but Bedard was matching their play.
00:16:28
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:16:28
Leo Ernewein
Right. And I feel like I just didn't see that from McKenna a lot this tournament.
00:16:29
Lando
Yeah.
00:16:33
Lando
Well, I think and sort of yeah well sorry to cut so Sorry to cut you off, but with Gavin McKenna, when he played in the Memorial Cup,
00:16:34
Leo Ernewein
Disappointed me. Yeah. No, you didn't.
00:16:45
Lando
last spring for the medicine at tigers he was flying he was throwing hits he was body checking he was he was just like i'm like if if medicine hats gonna win the the memorial cup which i was so excited by the way that they they were in the memorial cup because they they're my favorite whl team because that's where i was born and from but he was just flying.
00:16:48
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:16:52
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:17:10
Lando
And I was like, and he, I think he was the Memorial cup MVP. If I was not mistaken, I could be wrong.
00:17:15
Leo Ernewein
I think you're right.
00:17:16
Lando
I could be wrong.
00:17:16
Leo Ernewein
I think you're right there.
00:17:17
Lando
I, but he was just absolutely flying. And he was like, it was just incredible. And, and so I don't know if, If because he was elite, more elite compared to everybody else in the Memorial Cup, i might or the drive to win was there, but it just...
00:17:35
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, Easton Cowan won it last year.
00:17:41
Lando
or so Yeah, sorry. Yeah, he did. But when... Sorry, not... Madison Hat did not win the Memorial Cup. They were in the more Memorial Cup. Let me me...
00:17:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, they lost to the Knights up here, right?
00:17:50
Lando
If I said that, sorry. Yes, they made they made the Memorial Cup final, but they lost. That's right. Sorry. I i got a little... I got a little carried away with one of my thoughts. So, sorry. Yes.
00:18:03
Lando
Madison out was in the Memorial Cup final, but they lost.
00:18:03
Leo Ernewein
No, you're good with it.
00:18:05
Lando
But that throughout that whole tournament, he was flying. So, sorry. Yeah, you're right.
00:18:11
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, but it's it almost seemed like a far cry from the Canada that we saw in that tournament, right? But it also is a lot different of a level of play too, right?
00:18:17
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:22
Leo Ernewein
Like the to compare World Junior Hockey to Junior Hockey is, you know, it's World a Junior Hockey, right?
00:18:22
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:25
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:18:28
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:30
Leo Ernewein
No,
00:18:30
Lando
Yeah. My fault, my fault, to everybody. And Leo, I got a little bit on my rant, and i'm so I'm sorry, so I apologize to everybody.
00:18:41
Leo Ernewein
you're good. You're good, Will. We'll jump into segment number two here, Canada's construction of their Olympic hockey lineup. You know, the projected lines are out.
00:18:52
Leo Ernewein
McDavid, McKinnon, Marner, Crosby, Celebrini. It's a ridiculous group, honestly.
00:18:57
Lando
oh
Canada vs. U.S. Hockey Weaknesses
00:18:57
Lando
my goodness.
00:18:57
Leo Ernewein
Lando, what... What jumps out about you the most about how how Canada built this roster? Well, before I even ask that, actually, I'll just read some of the projected formal from lineups here. This is from NHL.com.
00:19:11
Leo Ernewein
They've got Macklin-Salabrini on the left, centered by McDavid with Marner on the right. Crosby on the left for line two, McKinnon in the center position, Sam Reinhardt on the right, Brad Marchand on the left, Beau Horvath.
00:19:23
Leo Ernewein
great centerman excellent on the draw for the third line there Tom Wilson on the right Brandon Hagel Nick Suzuki and Brayden Point ramping up line four with Cicero with Sorelli and Mark Stone as the spares and then you got Devin Taves and Cale McCarr of course we knew that Josh Morrissey Shea Theodore Travis Sanheim who's you know pleasantly It's nice to see him there, right? Drew Doughty, Thomas Harley, Colton Perinko.
00:19:53
Leo Ernewein
Thomas Harley and Perinko being the, not scratches, but the odd man out there. And then goalies, Logan Thompson, who we all, well, I don't know, man. i We were talking about biddington Bennington starting, right?
00:20:07
Lando
We did.
00:20:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, this still has Bennington started. Sorry, it just has Logan Thompson listed first for whatever reason. Thompson, Bennington, and Darcy Kempfer. But yeah, Landon, any any surprises there for you?
00:20:22
Lando
My surprises are bo Horvat, Mark Stone, and Anthony Cirelli. Those are my three. And reason why I'm saying those three is...
00:20:36
Lando
I don't think those three have really had, other than maybe Bo Horvath, I don't think the other the other two have really had a good year. I think, like I said from, you know, when we talked about the World Juniors, as I think Canada tries to, again, like we we talked about, that they try to find players that have these roles and throw them in instead of, okay, we need to go with the best of the best.
00:21:05
Lando
And then you figure out figure out roles after. Because, I mean, I'm sure there will be players, you know, goal scorers will say, they'll take a step back, say, yeah, I'll be a penalty killer for just to win a gold medal. And I i just, i I know John Cooper is loyal to his three Tampa Bay Lightning guys.
00:21:23
Lando
But I think one of them should not be there. I think if when you when you look at when you need a goal, you know, a certain goal from, from somebody, I don't think Sorelli or, I mean, Stone can score, but I just, I don't think Anthony Sorelli can give you that, that elite goal score that you need, like Sam Bennett or even a Wyatt Johnston.
00:21:48
Lando
Right. So that I was, a I was, yeah.
00:21:50
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I love that you brought up those two.
00:21:52
Lando
And, and, and, you know, like, I, just I just, can't believe that, you know, you, you would pick, you know, a grinder guy over a guy who's scoring like left, right, and center, right? So I just, yeah I was a little surprised. The defensemen didn't surprise me. The goaltenders didn't surprise me.
00:22:14
Lando
i kind of figured that those three would be the guys that'd be going, but I was really surprised with Stone, Horvat, and Sorelli.
00:22:23
Leo Ernewein
I was surprised with those three too. Less so Horvat because for me, but I love Bo Horvat. I'm probably one of my favorite players in the league.
00:22:30
Lando
I do too.
00:22:33
Leo Ernewein
He's the kind of guy who I think you can plug and play on any team across the and NHL or any just any hockey team. He can play any position, any role. He plays the centerman best.
00:22:45
Leo Ernewein
Probably can't play goalie that well, actually. But, you know, like, he he can plug and play. You don't have to worry about him. He'll kill penalty minutes. He'll block shots. You don't have to worry. You might have to worry about him talking crap about your fan base after a little bit. No, I'm just kidding. But... so I love Beau Horvat. And so I'm less surprised about him. Totally surprised about Sorelli. But after learning about John Cooper, not really surprised.
00:23:08
Leo Ernewein
Would replace him with Wyatt Johnston for sure. loved And then that was the name I was going to bring up. And so when you brought up Wyatt Johnston, I was so happy. And Sam Bennett was another one. and i And I was reading an article about Sam Bennett about how they they viewed him as a snub as well. And I i totally agreed. I know why guys like Tom Wilson are there.
00:23:30
Leo Ernewein
Sam Bennett to me is like a, I mean, Tom Wilson's having a better year this year, but the last two or three years, it was Sam Wilson was a better version of Tom Bennett. Maybe a light, light version of Tom Bennett. Like he wasn't as scrappy. he wasn't in the penalty box as much.
00:23:48
Leo Ernewein
But to me, that's he's kind of this style the similar style of player. So I would totally be putting Sam Wilson, or not Sam Wilson, Sam Bennett in that reserve slot for...
00:24:01
Leo Ernewein
Who is the other one that we mentioned here? Let me just go back to the...
00:24:03
Lando
Tom Wilson and Sam Bennett and Mark Stone, yeah.
00:24:06
Leo Ernewein
Mark Stone. Yeah, I'd be replacing Mark Stone with a Sam Bennett and Anthony Cirelli with... with the white Johnston for sure. And that's probably the only changes I'd make on Canada roster.
00:24:21
Leo Ernewein
Do you, do you think they have like their teams obviously stacked, but no team is perfect. What's the one area that you might actually think Canada is vulnerable at in best on best tournament?
00:24:35
Lando
I think right now, I think they're goaltending. I'm not sure if their goaltending can... i mean i I mean, we're all up for surprises, right? But I i think as far as goaltending goes, I think that they are the weakest as far as the elite teams in the Olympics right now. I mean, I i think i think Logan Thompson and Jordan Bennington can...
00:25:05
Lando
you know, step up to the challenge right and, you know, carry the load, but that's kind of my weak spot.
00:25:11
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. I mean, I, I agree too, man. It has to be the goaltending, especially when you look at, uh, the States and who they have and who they've not even chose to bring because they just, you know, you don't, you can only bring three.
00:25:24
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:25:24
Lando
Yeah.
00:25:24
Leo Ernewein
And, and I'll mention that here in a second, but yeah, it's Canada's, that is the glaring weak spot. But the only problem is I don't think there's any better, there's a better answer, right? Like Aiden Hill was probably, I think he was hurt still.
00:25:39
Leo Ernewein
Uh, you know, there's, there's not much out there for Canadian goaltenders. And I was really hoping before that whole Canada hockey scandal at the world juniors years ago, that Carter Hart was going to be the guy to sort of take the reins and he's now back playing for Vegas, but he's, he's not, he's not even worth mentioning, man.
00:26:01
Leo Ernewein
So yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll skip over you there, Carter. Yeah, there's there's not a lot. It's not great, but, you know, what is great is the goaltenders for the U.S. So I'll pull that up here in a second. when i Where did it go?
00:26:15
Leo Ernewein
Where did it go? Jake Otinger, Swayman, and, of course, Hellebuck. Who would you start out of those three there, Landon?
00:26:26
Leo Ernewein
Landon?
00:26:27
Lando
would start Jake Ottinger.
00:26:29
Leo Ernewein
Me too, buddy.
00:26:31
Lando
Yeah.
00:26:31
Leo Ernewein
i love Otinger.
00:26:32
Lando
yeah
00:26:32
Leo Ernewein
i just, I feel like Hellebuck lets you down in big games, man. In big moments, in big games. And I think he's the best goaltender there. But I'm ready to pass the torch. And that torch is going to Otinger.
00:26:46
Leo Ernewein
Ayman's a close second because he's a good goalie too. But Otinger is just, to me, he's the truth. he's He's got so much potential. He just needs to watch those weak side posts a little bit more.
00:26:59
Leo Ernewein
And it's been like that for years for him.
00:26:59
Lando
Yeah, what well, you know what?
00:27:01
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, go ahead.
00:27:02
Lando
What I was going to say is that I think what happened in the playoffs last year for the Winnipeg Jets just shows you that I don't know if Hallibuck is a game breaker or not.
00:27:15
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah, I agree, man. Like, he's past his prime. And he he's got the experience. So maybe there's something to be said for that, especially in Olympic play. and But I don't know.
00:27:28
Leo Ernewein
I don't know if it's the right kind of experience being that they've had those chokes, right? I'll jump into the guys stepping in front of them as defensemen, you know, Quinn Hughes and Charlie McAvoy, Jacob Slavin, Jake Anderson, Zach Rinsky, Brock Faber, Noah Hannafin and Seth Jones as the extra defensemen there.
00:27:35
Lando
hmm.
00:27:48
Leo Ernewein
And then the forwards, you know, their defenseman's pretty good too. Their forwards looks pretty good here, man.
00:27:54
Lando
oh
00:27:54
Leo Ernewein
There's a few that I don't necessarily agree with, but you got Chachucks up front, left and right, Brady on the left, Matt on the right, Jack Eichel, the centerman, Matt Boldy, who I'm a big fan of on the left wing on line two, Austin Matthews, the centerman there, Jake Gensel on the right, Dylan Larkin, usually playing center.
00:28:12
Leo Ernewein
At least I used to. I'm not sure if he's moved out of the ring on the wing on... on his career in, in, uh, in the and NHL, but he's playing on the wing here. Jack Hughes down the middle, Tage Thompson, Jack Hughes, isn't he hurt?
00:28:27
Lando
He is. Yeah, he's he had that cooking barbecue incident, I believe.
00:28:36
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:28:38
Lando
So, yeah, yeah.
00:28:39
Leo Ernewein
Okay. This is.
00:28:40
Lando
So he's he's so he's think he's still hurt. Yes.
00:28:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, he is. So he's not on there.
00:28:45
Lando
Yeah.
00:28:47
Leo Ernewein
I'm going to find... There we go. Why do they have Jack Hughes on this one too? These are still projected lineups.
00:28:54
Lando
Well, maybe...
00:28:56
Leo Ernewein
Maybe he'll be back in time.
00:28:58
Lando
i am wondering the same thing. i know he's still hurt, but I know you will be back he might be back in time. So that's so why I think they picked him.
00:29:05
Leo Ernewein
I'm guessing that's the case. I'm trying to see if I can see see anything on it. I almost got miffed. I thought I was reading like an out-of-date subject.
00:29:11
Lando
I could tell. it
00:29:15
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, yeah, well, Dylan Larkin, Jack Hughes, Taige Thompson out on the right, Clayton Keller, Vincent Trocek, and JT Miller. That's pretty stacked fourth line, but I don't know. I'm not a big fan Trocek.
00:29:28
Leo Ernewein
And then Brock Nelson is Kyle Conner, and Kyle Conner is the extra skaters there.
00:29:28
Lando
I...
00:29:32
Leo Ernewein
First off, yeah, I'm just – because I know you're itching for it. What are your thoughts on this?
00:29:35
Lando
Oh, yeah. You can tell.
00:29:37
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, go ahead, buddy. Jump in.
00:29:40
Lando
I can't believe Jason Robertson's not on the team. Can you?
00:29:43
Lando
Like, it just...
00:29:43
Leo Ernewein
Damn it!
00:29:44
Leo Ernewein
You're stealing all my stuff, Landon!
00:29:46
Lando
that's
00:29:47
Leo Ernewein
What are you in my mind, buddy?
00:29:50
Lando
Well, we, that that's, you know, like I said in in and another episode, every every good host has a good co-host.
00:29:58
Leo Ernewein
it I purposely didn't write those guys in there like Wyatt Johnston and J-Rowe.
00:30:03
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:30:05
Leo Ernewein
and And you nailed it, man. You nailed it. Nice work.
00:30:10
Lando
Perfect.
00:30:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that's...
00:30:10
Lando
Thank you.
00:30:11
Leo Ernewein
i I totally agree.
00:30:11
Lando
I'll take...
00:30:12
Leo Ernewein
The fact that he's not in there is an embarrassment.
00:30:15
Lando
It is.
00:30:16
Lando
It's shocking. And I mean, not that not that I care to see the Americans do what they do, but again, you you you pick Robertson over Trocek.
00:30:29
Leo Ernewein
Right. And that's who I would take out too. Who would you put at the center position in the fourth line instead? Yeah.
00:30:35
Lando
And who are the options against? Sorry, I'm drawing a blank.
00:30:41
Leo Ernewein
yeah, well playing on the fourth line with, with, if you were to put Jason Robertson on the fourth line would be JT Miller and Clayton Keller. So you'd have to put obviously probably either Miller or J Rob on line three.
00:30:55
Lando
Yeah.
00:30:56
Leo Ernewein
Heck I'd even put them on line two next to Matt Boldy and, and Austin Matthews put ja Jake Gensel on line three, but I'd go with probably Dylan Larkin back at center.
00:31:03
Lando
I think I would too.
00:31:06
Leo Ernewein
know, I know Dave Thompson can play some center too.
00:31:06
Lando
Yeah.
00:31:09
Lando
Yeah. Well, he plays center for Buffalo. So, yeah.
00:31:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, exactly. So you got two options there.
00:31:13
Lando
Yeah.
00:31:15
Leo Ernewein
Maybe whoever wrote this for NHL.com doesn't. I don't know. But it doesn't doesn't even say their name. It just says buy NHL.com at NHL Media.
00:31:26
Leo Ernewein
So, man, turned my nose up at you because I disagree.
00:31:31
Leo Ernewein
those are the Those are the players that are picked. And, you know, does it – here, hold on. i'm just going to to my questions here.
00:31:42
Leo Ernewein
You think USA has the overall advantage or over Canada now? Or what what is it?
00:31:48
Lando
I don't think so. Honestly, I, I still think Canada can overcome the United States. I really do. i mean, they, they showed it in the four nations last year. I don't think this will be a problem.
00:31:59
Leo Ernewein
Me, I'm concerned, man. I am concerned. That looks like a deep depth roster there. and you know there's there We obviously went through the the changes that we would have made to the lineup, but we're not coaches and stuff like that. but I don't know, man. It's changing the guard for me, man. It's not a fun time to be... Well, depends on what you want. It's fun because actually like it, the competitiveness. I like i got bored of watching Canada win all the time. I just didn't care.
00:32:35
Leo Ernewein
Right. I started to care when U S beat Canada.
00:32:36
Lando
Yeah.
00:32:38
Leo Ernewein
And then I was like, oh crap, this is, this is for real now. So now that there's a bit more parody, I think I'm caring a lot more and I, I I'm torn cause I don't feel patriotic saying that, you know,
Canadian Women's Team & U.S. Rivalry
00:32:51
Lando
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
00:32:52
Leo Ernewein
but, but it's nice to see.
00:32:54
Leo Ernewein
And it's, it's fun hockey to watch. Yeah.
00:32:57
Lando
It is. it it is.
00:32:58
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:32:58
Lando
and and and you know, and and and the the thing the thing that's nice is that you want a little bit adversity going into stuff, right? And and that's where, like I said, I think it's it's neat to see it's neat to see that these countries are catching up.
00:33:14
Lando
But at the same time, it's like, you're just like, earth why can't Canada keep going, right? Keep going the way they are. Sorry, I meant to say.
00:33:21
Leo Ernewein
I want to see them catch up and still lose seven to six in an overtime, you know, third round overtime or whatever.
00:33:25
Lando
Exactly.
00:33:28
Lando
Yeah, exactly.
00:33:30
Leo Ernewein
The women's Olympic team is announcing their roster soon here coming up. What storyline are you watching for most? Is it the vets, you know, the were the new wave of players coming in or the rivalry with the States?
00:33:44
Lando
i think I think what I'm interested in is the fact that I think How is Canada going to to respond to being absolutely shellacked in the rivalry series or and i and how, what's going to motivate them?
00:34:03
Lando
What changes are they going to have to make? Are they, are they going to have to get rid of one of their vets to go with somebody newer and younger and quicker? I don't know. That's hard to say, but I think as, I think, I think as far as the women's team going to the Olympics, I'm a little concerned about these guys because I, I think, I think the American women have definitely,
00:34:29
Lando
are definitely the the best team in the in the Olympics. And i I hate to say it, but I i think they are probably going to win gold. But, I mean, again, you have a short window, you have a short tournament, and one-game-win-all type of thing in the end.
00:34:49
Lando
You know, bounce here, a bounce there, they might win.
00:34:53
Leo Ernewein
That's why we play the game, right?
00:34:53
Lando
Right? So... That's why you play the game, right, Steph?
00:34:56
Leo Ernewein
Exactly. Any given Sunday, if they like to say. For me, it's got to be the new wave of players, though. Sarah Fillier is looking like a superstar. Claire Thompson, unbelievable in Beijing. And now you've you're blending those guys with Poulain and Nurse Spooner.
00:35:11
Leo Ernewein
Fast, the core that's been there for so long, right? That mix of youth and experience is amazing. to me, what could win Canada gold. We already know your predictions on the, the women's side, I guess you're, you're, you're taking the USA.
00:35:25
Leo Ernewein
What about the men's side? i'm going to put you on the spot. Who's playing in the gold medal game on the men's side and who wins it?
00:35:32
Lando
I am going to say it'll be Sweden versus Canada. And I think so Canada is going to win still. I do really do. But again, Sweden, wow.
00:35:43
Lando
i mean you look at
00:35:45
Leo Ernewein
Uh,
00:35:46
Lando
I mean, you you look at the four nations teams that are going to be in this. they though All four of those could be go easily gold medalists, right?
00:35:56
Leo Ernewein
I agree, man. I agree. But for me, it's got to be the States this year.
00:36:02
Lando
But here's here's here's the thing about, i know, i here's the thing that,
00:36:03
Leo Ernewein
i hate saying that. The States taking down Canada 3-2 in overtime.
00:36:10
Lando
here's the, rage, rage, rage.
00:36:11
Leo Ernewein
Rage, rage, rage.
00:36:14
Lando
Here's the thing why I don't think the United States is because I don't think they have enough goalscoring to win.
00:36:14
Leo Ernewein
Go ahead.
00:36:20
Lando
they sat They let them, yeah, Robertson and, yeah, yeah, so.
00:36:20
Leo Ernewein
with With lacking guys like Jason Robertson, yeah. I still think, you know, Matt Gold, Matt Boldy's a good two-way forward there.
00:36:30
Lando
Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:36:33
Leo Ernewein
Who else do I really like? I mean, some of the scoring can come from defensemen like Quinn Hughes, who's just unbelievable.
00:36:37
Lando
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
00:36:40
Leo Ernewein
Zach Rorinsky's a good QB on the power play as well. Yeah. Yeah, the T'Chuck brothers is what scares me the most, I think.
00:36:46
Lando
You know who's...
00:36:49
Leo Ernewein
I just hate playing against them.
00:36:51
Lando
Oh, I know. it You love him or hate him. But you know who...
00:36:54
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:36:55
Lando
You know somebody's...
00:36:55
Leo Ernewein
I'd love them they were on my team.
00:36:57
Lando
Exactly.
00:36:57
Leo Ernewein
What's that?
00:36:58
Lando
You know who's surprised, who somebody asked me said, I can't believe Adam Fox hasn't been on the isn't on the team. I'm like, I'm not surprised. And then they kind of look at me like, well, what are you talking about?
00:37:09
Lando
And said, he hasn't had a good year. He hasn't proven anything.
00:37:12
Leo Ernewein
No. And the defenseman core on the estates is absolutely stacked too, right?
00:37:17
Lando
It is, right?
00:37:17
Leo Ernewein
like Like when you're scratching jayke anderson Jake or Jake Sanderson or Noah Hannafin or Brock Faber or any of those guys, you know, those are starting, those are top line minutes guys on any team in the NHL pretty much.
00:37:18
Lando
Yeah.
00:37:25
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:37:31
Lando
Yeah. Yeah, it is. So i just, I just, Adam Fox hasn't proven anything to me.
00:37:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:37:38
Lando
i mean, I don't think he was, was he on the team? Yes, he was on the team last year. So he, he got, he got snubbed, but you know what though?
00:37:42
Leo Ernewein
Pretty sure he was, yeah.
00:37:46
Lando
His attitude deserves to be snubbed. I think, I think, you know what?
00:37:50
Leo Ernewein
Amen.
00:37:51
Lando
I, that's, that's just how I feel. I think that his attitude of how he, how he perceives himself. I think he, he gets a little cocky and I think this is a little bit of a wake up call.
00:38:02
Leo Ernewein
There he's a diva, I agree. I'm going to jump into segment three here, the wildest NFL playoff picture in years.
NFL Playoff Surprises
00:38:10
Lando
Oh, man.
00:38:10
Leo Ernewein
Because this season, you know, it's been absolute chaos. Top contenders fell apart. Teams nobody believed in stole divisions. Like, what happened to the Indianapolis Colts? They were like 8-0 at one point.
00:38:22
Leo Ernewein
Sold their next couple of two years first-round draft picks to get a cornerback. Defensive back Sauce Gardner thinking, okay, we got to go in all in for this year. Then their quarterback gets hurt.
00:38:32
Leo Ernewein
Then they bring in 44-year-old Phillip Rivers.
00:38:34
Lando
no.
00:38:35
Leo Ernewein
Right? like And then they just lose everything and they're out of the playoffs.
00:38:37
Lando
Yep.
00:38:39
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Talk about a... i just What? What? Yeah. and The number one seeds are led by quarterbacks who've never won a playoff game.
00:38:50
Leo Ernewein
Like, this league is unhinged, man. What's the biggest shock so far?
00:38:53
Lando
yeah
00:38:54
Leo Ernewein
Like, any... any Yeah, biggest shock.
00:38:56
Lando
biggest shirt Biggest shock so far?
00:38:59
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
00:39:01
Lando
i think my biggest shock is i think how New England played this year. i like i thought they would be better with Josh McDaniels and Mike Vrabel as coaches.
00:39:18
Lando
But I... i I thought they would be a lot better, and Drake may have you know his second year under his belt, but I didn't think that they would be this good this quickly and dominate the way they have.
00:39:33
Lando
I mean, they've they have not they haven't played you know the perfect game all the time, but boy, they've been dominant. And then I i think the the other surprise that really shocked me was...
00:39:46
Lando
just how Indianapolis and Jacksonville just flip-flop, basically.
00:39:52
Leo Ernewein
a
00:39:52
Lando
And Jacksonville is just flying. And i am if I was Buffalo, I'd be a little worried about playing them.
00:40:02
Leo Ernewein
So i've heard this I heard a story on Instagram the other day and take this grain of salt because it was on Instagram.
00:40:02
Lando
In my personal view.
00:40:08
Leo Ernewein
But li and Liam Cohen, the head coach of the Jags, was the offensive coordinator for the Buccaneers last year. Was the last year or two years ago? might have been two years ago. Anyways, before he left...
00:40:20
Leo Ernewein
he was He was, you know, going to resign as the Buccaneers offensive coordinator, be the highest paid offensive coordinator in the league. And he did a few head coaching interviews.
00:40:29
Lando
Mm.
00:40:32
Leo Ernewein
And one of his stipulations that he wanted was to have roster control. So sort of be like a GM.
00:40:37
Lando
Mm.
00:40:38
Leo Ernewein
Well, what the Jaguars in Shad Khan, who's the owner, did is they fired their GM once they heard that that was part of Liam Cohen's his nick goat like his rules. Not rules, but part of a deal breaker for him to sign a to be a come-ahead coach was to have roster control.
00:40:54
Leo Ernewein
So they fired their GM on the spot and said, okay, not a problem anymore. And he signed and took the job. And so i was like, wow, that talk about a gutsy move, man.
00:41:06
Leo Ernewein
And then you're totally right about those Patriots. I did not. It seems like Boston sports in general, whether it's the Bruins, Patriots, they just can't have a, a they they can have one down year, but they can't have two, not back to back.
00:41:21
Leo Ernewein
That's just not allowed in Boston sports.
00:41:21
Lando
Hmm.
00:41:24
Leo Ernewein
You can have one rebuild year and then you're back to a pushing for playoff contention. And it's just disappointing as somebody who despises all Boston sports, except for the Red Sox.
00:41:32
Lando
Hmm.
00:41:36
Leo Ernewein
I still, don't know. I still like the Red Sox, but I sort of hate them at the same time because they're also part of the Boston cycle. Yeah.
00:41:43
Lando
Hmm.
00:41:44
Leo Ernewein
but that's the team that got me into baseball. Anyways, the the most surprising, uh, team for me or the biggest shock, Kansas city, not missing the, you know, not making the playoffs.
00:41:55
Leo Ernewein
My home was basically lived in the AFC championship game for like seven straight years. even I'm at home in January, kind of feels like a glitch in the matrix, you know, like stuff, something's it's like, what this, this isn't the NFL that I know.
00:42:11
Leo Ernewein
You know, is and I guess for you, the turnarounds would probably be the Jaguars and the Patriots themselves, right? Because the Jaguars kind of, you know, weren't were the most impressive team.
00:42:25
Leo Ernewein
i should say impressive franchise in recent history. And to see them play the football like the way they are, it's it it feels like a video game where somebody else is controlling them. So I'm like, this is a Jaguars football. Some of the top seeds out there, Seattle, Denver, you know, they both grabbed some of the buys.
00:42:45
Lando
Yep.
00:42:46
Leo Ernewein
Which one of those top teams do you trust more heading into the playoffs?
00:42:50
Lando
Denver or Seattle or both?
00:42:52
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Or both.
00:42:54
Lando
I would, or both. I'd go both.
00:42:56
Leo Ernewein
but You don't think Seattle's a fraud?
00:42:59
Lando
No, I don't. I've watched them enough.
00:43:00
Leo Ernewein
I do.
00:43:02
Lando
You do? I don't think I...
00:43:03
Leo Ernewein
They can't run the ball.
00:43:05
Lando
Well, and that's funny because Seattle has been known to run the ball and they've had so many good running backs go through their team that for them not to have a decent running attack, it's a little shocking.
00:43:17
Lando
But, I mean, they also have a good quarterback that can throw the ball too, right? So, I'm not worried to but i'm not worried about Seattle.
00:43:22
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, well, Sam Darnold has been incredible this year. Yeah.
00:43:26
Lando
He has. And that's... That's why I'm not worried about Seattle. The only thing with Denver that I worry with Denver, and I don't think Denver is going to problem in the when whenever this wildcard weekend ends, whoever they fit find out who they play.
00:43:43
Lando
the part that I worry about with Denver is not so much their defense. Cause I, I know that Davis Sanchez that said, or, or was it Luke Wilson?
00:43:54
Lando
One of the two, one of those two guys said that their defense, den Denver's defense can be a little bit vulnerable. And i I, mean, but most defenses in the NFL or even in the CFL, they're all vulnerable.
00:44:05
Lando
I mean, there, there's always weaknesses all the time, but exactly.
00:44:08
Leo Ernewein
Everybody's looking to gash you every time they hut the ball. Yeah, of course.
00:44:10
Lando
Yeah. Yeah. I, But I think with Denver that i I worry about is is how Bo Nix had started off so well this year, even though that they were they started an 0-2 start or 0-3 start, I think it was, or something like that.
00:44:27
Lando
and And then as they started winning more, he started to digress. And that's the part that worries me with Denver is how Bo Nix is played. But, yeah, they're they're not – I wouldn't worry about Denver.
00:44:44
Lando
You touched on Kansas City. Can I can i say something about Kansas City?
00:44:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
00:44:49
Lando
I'm not shocked about Kansas City, and here's why. When you've won as much as they have, it eventually will catch up to them. And I think the problem in Kansas City, too, is they've traded away a lot of their franchise depth that they would normally have had in the past.
00:45:08
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, they couldn't afford it right to keep it.
00:45:10
Lando
Exactly. They look forward to keep it so they've
00:45:11
Leo Ernewein
That's the price you pay with winning everybody's salary goes up.
00:45:13
Lando
Exactly. So, yeah. And so the guys that they wanted to pay who had outstanding playoffs, they're paying them, but now they're not playing very good or they're hurt.
00:45:16
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:45:23
Lando
And so I think i think this is a good wake-up call for Kansas City that I think... I think they need to start changing how they do things in Kansas city and know that I think that the division that they play in has definitely gotten better because you have to, in order to make the playoffs, you have to at least be, you have to at least almost be one-on-one with your division, or if you can at least go two and oh, that'd be even better, but you have to be at least, you know,
00:45:59
Lando
you know, 50-50, I guess it would be, I would call it, but it's not. It's one and one. But that's how that's how you make the playoffs. You've got to win your division. And when you can't beat your division and your division has gotten better, that's the that's where Kansas City is having a problem this year is that they couldn't beat their division.
00:46:18
Lando
And, I mean, granted that they lost a couple, you know, one-score games, you know, a field goal here, a field goal there where they've won it in the past. But, yeah,
00:46:26
Leo Ernewein
They got hosed, but it sounds like karma at the same time, right?
00:46:28
Lando
Yeah, they just, they yeah, they they just, they've they've they've really struggled this year and it showed. And that this was the most off I think I've seen Patrick Mahomes this year was, and I just, i and yeah and I think,
00:46:43
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, the one year I have him in my fantasy team, it's the most easy.
00:46:46
Lando
Yeah.
00:46:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:46:47
Lando
Well, it's the same it's the same thing in my hockey pool, man.
00:46:49
Leo Ernewein
yeah
00:46:50
Lando
Boy, oh boy, I started off absolutely horrendous. All the guys that I had tremendous years last year had very slow starts. I'm like, oh my goodness. How is this possible that all now all these guys have crappy years to start with anyways?
00:47:05
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Just the way it goes when I put money on it, right?
00:47:06
Lando
But
00:47:09
Lando
Exactly. Yeah, exactly. So, but anyways, that's just my, that's just my thought pat on Kansas City. And then my, my final thought with Kansas City too, they have way too many hotheads on their team and they really need to change the culture.
00:47:09
Leo Ernewein
Like, yeah.
00:47:16
Leo Ernewein
For...
00:47:23
Lando
So I'll throw it back to you.
00:47:26
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, well, it it seems to me like the... The way it goes in the NFL, or not the way it all always goes, but the way it seems to go sometimes is that, you know, you draft a good quarterback with a good constructed roster, and you got him on a rookie c salary, and you win a bunch.
00:47:43
Leo Ernewein
And you want to extend that winning window, so you pay the rookie quarterback. Well, you had to pay Mahomes a buttload, and then they had to pay him again. And eventually, when you pay him so much of that roster, so much salary, the, you know, percentage...
00:47:59
Leo Ernewein
The rest, you can't really pay those other guys. Eventually, you're going to hit a window where your quarterback is so expensive, you can't pay really anybody, else a lot of other people that much. So it becomes really tough to construct a roster around that when you aren't drafting very well.
00:48:14
Leo Ernewein
And it's hard for them to draft very well if they're constantly picking at the top, their bottom of the first round because they're winning so much. So it's it's by design that it's like that. And I almost feel like...
00:48:26
Leo Ernewein
And the only – not the only way to get all out of that, but a way that I've seen teams do in the past is when they start to have a down season like this, if they were to miss the playoffs again next year, Patrick Mahomes is traded.
00:48:39
Leo Ernewein
And that sounds crazy.
00:48:39
Lando
Yeah, I agree.
00:48:41
Leo Ernewein
Doesn't it?
00:48:41
Lando
Yeah, yeah, it does.
00:48:42
Leo Ernewein
that's That's the way they do it. They move on from a big quarterback. And we saw Houston do it, although – you know, Deshaun Watson had other things. We've seen plenty of other teams where they sign big, big name, not, not sign, but sorry.
00:49:00
Leo Ernewein
resign big name players to keep on their team to extend their window to sacrifice other parts of the team. And then eventually you can only sacrifice so much before your team is basically a bunch of scrap parts and a star quarterback because
NFL Wild Card Game Previews
00:49:13
Leo Ernewein
he's making $80 million year your $150 million salary.
00:49:13
Lando
Right.
00:49:19
Leo Ernewein
Right? Like he's making more than half or something like that.
00:49:20
Lando
right
00:49:22
Leo Ernewein
It's insane. But yeah, I just want to jump that or touch that in. We'll jump into the wildcard matchups here. I'll run through the board real quick. Six games all over the place. Rams at Panthers, Packers at Bears, Bills at Jags, 49ers at Eagles, Chargers at Patriots, and Texans at Steelers.
00:49:39
Leo Ernewein
Out of those six, Landon, which one is the biggest toss-up or coin flip for you?
00:49:46
Lando
I think the biggest toss-up for me is probably going to be the
00:50:00
Lando
the the team The teams that I think are going to win out of those six games, the rat the Rams, the Packers,
00:50:08
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, good answer too.
00:50:13
Lando
The Jaguars, Patriots, Patriots, and I'm going Houston Texans.
00:50:16
Leo Ernewein
No.
00:50:22
Leo Ernewein
Well, okay. 49ers or Eagles though?
00:50:26
Lando
I don't like the 49ers, so i have to go out I'll go as Eagles. But, boy, that's a that's a hard. i mean, you look at you look at what San Francisco has done this year, the record they have, and then they have to play the Philadelphia Eagles in the first round. That just shows you how good that that just shows you how good that division, that seattle or how how good the division is and how good Seattle, l LA, and San Francisco was this year. hey
00:50:57
Lando
They had an amazing record. Any other division, they'd be probably they'd have a way better matchup, and they have to play the Philadelphia Eagles. My goodness. like it's just It's shocking.
00:51:10
Leo Ernewein
What made you want to choose the Jaguars over the Bills?
00:51:15
Lando
I have Jacksonville winning the world out winning the Super Bowl. And here's why. They are... they are paybi Yeah.
00:51:21
Leo Ernewein
What?
00:51:22
Lando
No, when I i've watched them play Denver.
00:51:23
Leo Ernewein
What?
00:51:27
Lando
They made them look... And I thought Denver was good. And I thought Denver could be... You know, it was unstoppable. The Jacksonville Jaguars made them look really stupid. And i think...
00:51:42
Lando
The reason why I say Jacksonville is because they have been the hottest team going in going in at the end of the year. And we've seen teams, and I'll use an example, Cincinnati, the Bengals back when they lost to LA Rams, they started off poorly.
00:52:03
Lando
And then all of a sudden they just took off halfway through the year and they never stopped. And unfortunately they lost the Super Bowl. But I have Jacksonville winning the whole thing.
00:52:12
Leo Ernewein
Wow. Wow.
00:52:16
Leo Ernewein
Good. I mean, that's a, that's a bully choice. I hope you bought a lottery ticket or at least put some money on Jacksonville.
00:52:19
Lando
Well, but
00:52:25
Lando
I mean, therere the of all those teams, no, no.
00:52:26
Leo Ernewein
I still don't believe in them at all. no Do you remember Spencer Rose?
00:52:29
Lando
I, yep.
00:52:31
Leo Ernewein
He's a huge Jags fan. He'd probably go streaking if if he saw if he saw them win a Super Bowl.
00:52:33
Lando
Yep.
00:52:38
Leo Ernewein
I don't think he would ever thought that there'd be a day where he thought they would win a Super Bowl. there's You know, he's a huge and Maurice Jones-Drew guy and David Gerrard. and
00:52:47
Lando
yeah
00:52:49
Leo Ernewein
So shout out Spoon if you're ever going listen. I don't know. I don't think I've even told them about the podcast, but I probably should have of him.
00:52:54
Lando
I think you should force him to listen to it.
00:52:56
Leo Ernewein
i should I should be like, hey, man, you got a mention online on this episode. Go check it out. You know, like one of those spam things that you get from somebody where it's like, send him one of those on Facebook.
00:53:01
Lando
You got a shout out Yeah.
00:53:07
Leo Ernewein
See if he even opens it. I think the biggest toss-up for me or coin flips got to be the Chargers at Patriots. I feel like both those, that game could go either way.
00:53:17
Lando
Interesting.
00:53:21
Leo Ernewein
I love both those quarterbacks. One's, you know, up and coming. The other one's got the hot model girlfriend.
00:53:28
Lando
Yeah.
00:53:28
Leo Ernewein
Like, yeah, I just, I, to me, it starts with the best quarterback matchup on wildcard weekend. And that's for the chargers at Patriots. It's a close second would be the 49ers at Eagles. That one would be a close second.
00:53:45
Leo Ernewein
But Jalen hurts. Who's the other quarterback I had in my fantasy football league also let me down this year. So screw you Jalen hurts.
00:53:51
Lando
yes
00:53:52
Leo Ernewein
You didn't score enough rushing touchdowns like you did a few years ago to to win me my my money.
00:53:53
Lando
yeah
00:53:58
Lando
Your money.
00:54:00
Leo Ernewein
Speaking of get me my money, though, we'll go to the Black Monday carnage here.
NFL Black Monday & Coaching Changes
00:54:04
Leo Ernewein
Black Monday, the annual bloodbath, and this year was ruthless. Multiple coaches out of jobs in the NFL. Big name's gone. It's a massive job suddenly open. Let's start with the headlining firing.
00:54:17
Leo Ernewein
Was it fair? Did teams pull the plug too early? We'll start with... well, probably the big one, Ravens Harbaugh.
00:54:27
Lando
I think the writing was on the wall with the Baltimore Ravens. I think as, you know, I think even it just showed last year. after an amazing, amazing year, two years ago, that I think that progression of the, of his coaching and just his selection of players, coaching style, I think was just starting to run out. And I don't think he's not going to be unemployed for very long, but I think, I think a fresh start in Baltimore, it was probably a good thing.
00:55:02
Lando
What was your reaction when you heard about him getting let go?
00:55:06
Leo Ernewein
i Yeah, I agree, man. like I think to sometimes what teams do when they have a winning window and they just disappointed recently is they'll fire that coach because that coach has been there for 18 years.
00:55:22
Leo Ernewein
The message might have gotten a little stale. It's not like he did a bad job or anything. i I love the way he consoled the kicker after they missed that kick to lose the game to make the playoffs. Yeah.
00:55:34
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:55:35
Leo Ernewein
And I'm also really disappointed that we won't see a Jim versus John Harbaugh Super Bowl again, because it would have been cool to see the Chargers make it in the AFC and the... Oh, no, they would both be AFC, so it'd be a divisional matchup. Never mind.
00:55:51
Leo Ernewein
Not divisional, but a conference final at most. So that that completely takes that out of the air. But, yeah, it it just it sounds like, to me, they wanted some fresh fresh voice in the air, and You know, part of the thing that I don't necessarily agree with the firing is the timing.
00:56:09
Leo Ernewein
It was right after, you know, what looked like, it looked like a knee jerk reaction because they lost the way that they lost, that they fired the coach and look for the scapegoat. But I think, yeah, i think there's deeper issues to it.
00:56:22
Leo Ernewein
I also don't necessarily know if there's a better coach out there than Jim Harbaugh or John right now. Sorry, Jim's the, uh,
00:56:30
Lando
yeah
00:56:30
Leo Ernewein
the Chargers one. I don't think there's a better coach out there than John. And so that's a huge gamble for me to to to do as a team. Yeah, and then I'm gonna jump into the next one here. Fair or unfair, Miami Dolphins, Mike McDaniels.
00:56:47
Leo Ernewein
Or McDaniel.
00:56:47
Lando
Wow, that, you know what, of all the coaches, I think that got let go. he was one of the surprise He was one of the surprises.
00:56:55
Leo Ernewein
Hell no.
00:56:57
Lando
do what sorry say that again
00:56:59
Leo Ernewein
I disagree, but keep going.
00:57:01
Lando
Okay. i think I think as far as – I actually thought that he was dealt with and not an unfair roster.
00:57:12
Lando
I don't think his ownership and management helped him much. I think – yeah, and I and i and i think he's he also was dealt with a quarterback that – I think has you know been way too overhyped. So that's why I thought I was a little surprised. I'm like, you know what, I think hopefully they can maybe try to ride this out and try to find guys that can play under his system. But yeah, he was he was kind of a I was kind of a little surprised with him. But I mean, if anybody would if anybody came up to me and said, well, they have this so-and-so record, are you surprised they haven't let go? No, but i I am surprised at the same time.
00:57:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I was kind of surprised at the how late in the year that they did it. He was the most recent coach to get fired. i think it was yesterday.
00:58:01
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:58:03
Leo Ernewein
To me, I thought, okay, once we already passed Monday, that they weren't going to fire him. And then they went out and did it. And i was like, oh, well, that surprises me only on the timing.
00:58:15
Leo Ernewein
i love the guy. i think he's an awesome person. i would love him as an offensive coordinator. I just don't think he's got the coaching material chops. He's a he's never played the game at at a high level, college or NFL.
00:58:29
Leo Ernewein
He... and he's younger, right? Like he's he's still in his 30s.
00:58:33
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:58:35
Leo Ernewein
And to me, sometimes I feel like players just don't respond to that kind of guy in a head coaching role as much as they would respond to that guy as a quarterback's coach or an offensive coordinator.
00:58:47
Leo Ernewein
And he's clearly got that camera capability to watch, I think it was in 2021 or 2022. The Dolphins were incredible under that year with Waddle Tua and Tyree Kill.
00:58:59
Leo Ernewein
So, I don't think he'll have a problem finding a job. Whether it be a head coaching position remains a different story. Speaking of another head coach that got fired, Kevin Stefanski, the Browns, fair or unfair?
00:59:12
Lando
Fair.
00:59:13
Lando
They're brutal.
00:59:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, me too.
00:59:14
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Fair next. Okay.
00:59:17
Lando
Moving on.
00:59:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Next. Another one that got fired. Who else got fired?
00:59:26
Lando
Pete Carroll, do you want to go with him?
00:59:27
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Oakland Raiders fired. Pete Carroll, fair or unfair?
00:59:33
Lando
Well, I'll correct you. It's the Las Vegas Raiders. I know.
00:59:36
Leo Ernewein
You're right.
00:59:36
Lando
it You're welcome.
00:59:37
Leo Ernewein
Thanks. Appreciate it.
00:59:39
Lando
Saved you again. But anyways, Pete Carroll was a surprise too because heart I don't know.
00:59:50
Lando
It's so hard to read the Raiders as an organization, right? Like they've they've carried their quote-unquote stupidity from Oakland all the way to Vegas.
01:00:02
Lando
And I have such a hard time reading what what are they actually trying to do as an organization. Do they know what they're looking for? Do they know what direction they want to go? to go like it's It's just bizarre. And so when when they hired Pete Carroll just a little over a year ago, I thought, all right,
01:00:30
Lando
They've got their coach. They've kind of got a quarterback in Geno Smith. You know, they've got Jacoby Myers as their receiver.
01:00:40
Leo Ernewein
And Jen T is the running back, the rookie.
01:00:42
Lando
yeah exactly. So I thought, okay, you know what? I don't think they're still going to last place, but I think they're going to be very, very competitive. And they're going to give, you know, Kansas City a run. They're going to give Denver a run. And they're going to give the Chargers a run.
01:00:58
Lando
That never happened this year. And they were just, they were horrendous. Like this was by far the worst I think I've ever seen Geno Smith play. And I, and unfortunately, I think when Pete Carroll came onto the team, again, just like Josh McDaniels, he, Pete Carroll was dealt with some players,
01:01:19
Lando
it was not a very well constructed group of players. And I think, I think of all the coaches I thought he was, that was very unfair of them to do. I just based on his track record that I think get, let him get his feet wet, let him get system set.
01:01:36
Lando
And it just boom, fired. And, and I, what is that their eighth coach in the last 10 years? It seems like it anyways, I could be exaggerating, but yeah.
01:01:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it's it's it's something like that. They fired a lot recently, going back to John Gruden or Jack Del Rio, right?
01:01:48
Lando
Yeah.
01:01:51
Leo Ernewein
like
01:01:51
Lando
Yeah.
01:01:52
Lando
It feels that way anyways. I don't know if they fired eight. Mm-hmm.
01:01:55
Leo Ernewein
For me, the the Raiders are the epitome of a dumpster fire organization in the NFL, and that used to be the Lions, that used to be the Jaguars. And that was also used to be the Raiders and the Jets. And now it seems like the Raiders and Jets are starting to to hold more of a bigger share of that dumpster fire piece or pie, I should say.
01:02:17
Leo Ernewein
but some You know, the to me, I feel like the Raiders' ownership is from right out the gate this year after maybe they lost a couple games said, okay, tank.
01:02:29
Leo Ernewein
Because I think there was, I remember doing sports, I think last weekend or two weekends ago at work, and the Raiders were playing the Giants. And both teams, obviously, they called the tank bowl, the article that I was reading, because it was the battle for who the battle for the first overall pick.
01:02:41
Lando
Okay.
01:02:44
Leo Ernewein
Whoever lost was probably going to get the first overall pick. The Raiders lost thirty six to ten And I just remember thinking to myself, who how do you lose that bad to the Giants, who are also really, really bad?
01:03:00
Leo Ernewein
And also the Raiders, like they shut down Max Crosby, who was like an all-star, all-pro defensive end.
01:03:05
Lando
Yep. Yeah.
01:03:08
Leo Ernewein
And then said he was hurt. And so he disagreed with that. He went on Instagram and started like posting videos of him, like playing basketball at his home gym, just fine.
01:03:18
Leo Ernewein
Cause he was like miffed.
01:03:19
Lando
Yeah.
01:03:20
Leo Ernewein
They shut him down. I mean, he, he gets, he makes more money for playing in more games, getting more sacks, getting more tackles, all that jazz player, player incentives. And they shut him down and said, no, you don't even have an opportunity to do that.
01:03:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it's just a from from the from Mark Davis down, just a dumpster fire organization. So I don't feel bad for Pete Carroll because he probably got a nice buyout.
01:03:39
Lando
yeah
01:03:43
Leo Ernewein
I doubt it was more than like a three-year contract based on his age, but... Probably wasn't a one-year deal. And last but not least in the coaching firing section, this one can be quick. Former, I think, 49ers running back Falcons head coach Raheem Morris got canned as well.
01:04:02
Leo Ernewein
And I saw somebody talking about it. They said they were pretending like Raheem Morris only had two years as the Falcons head coach. And their argument for firing him was, you're in the NFC South.
01:04:14
Leo Ernewein
All you need is one year to turn things around there.
01:04:17
Lando
Yeah, no kidding. Yeah.
01:04:20
Leo Ernewein
But yeah, real quick, most surprising firing for you?
01:04:21
Lando
okay
01:04:24
Leo Ernewein
Just any top? Would it be Harbaugh or would it be Pete Carroll?
01:04:29
Lando
I think the most, yeah, I think Pete Carroll was definitely the, was probably the most surprising. I think, I mean, John Harborough, maybe a little bit, but I think Pete Carroll was my surprise.
01:04:43
Lando
The other coaches, the running was on the wall for them. Like, I mean, I i feel for Raheem Morris, too, because I think he was also dealt with not a very good football team, too, right?
01:04:53
Lando
I mean, they're trying to – oh, yeah.
01:04:53
Leo Ernewein
This team was terrible.
01:04:56
Lando
Like, ha!
01:04:57
Leo Ernewein
They, they, they had, they signed Kirk cousins to like a huge deal and then go into the draft and draft Michael Penix with the first, with the first round pick.
01:05:01
Lando
Yeah.
01:05:06
Lando
And make him a the starter, and he's not even proven yet.
01:05:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. I don't understand the Falcons logic, but that's also why i don't like that team.
01:05:16
Lando
I'm with you on that one.
01:05:17
Leo Ernewein
Last question before we add to the extra here. What do you think the best job available is? Oh, didn't the lions also fire their head coach?
01:05:26
Lando
No, not yet. I don't, I don't, not yet.
01:05:28
Leo Ernewein
I thought they did.
01:05:30
Lando
No, I don't think he did. No, haven't heard anything. or I could. Yeah. I haven't heard anything about that.
01:05:38
Lando
Did he?
01:05:38
Leo Ernewein
Uh, Lawrence reached out. Oh no, they're looking for an offensive coordinator.
01:05:42
Lando
yeah That's what it was. Yes, they are looking for a new offensive coordinator.
01:05:45
Leo Ernewein
Mike McDaniel might be in line for that, which would be awesome to see.
01:05:50
Lando
Yeah.
01:05:52
Leo Ernewein
because I was going say, if they fired, i don't know, I saw it on social media where a pretends to be head coach.
01:05:56
Lando
And you just saw it really quick, and yeah, you're like, oh yeah.
01:05:58
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, and I was like, wait, did they fire their head coach?
01:05:59
Lando
You made me pet...
01:06:00
Leo Ernewein
Like, no way did they fire their head coach. Okay, good.
01:06:04
Lando
you you you freak you made me pet
01:06:05
Leo Ernewein
What's the best job of opening?
Evaluating NFL Coaching Opportunities
01:06:08
Lando
Well, first of all, you made me panic. i'm like, what did I miss today? Did I miss something? but
01:06:13
Leo Ernewein
ha, ha, ha.
01:06:14
Lando
So, sorry, re-say the question again?
01:06:17
Leo Ernewein
What do you think the the best job opening is out of the Cleveland Browns, the Las Vegas Raiders, the Atlanta Falcons?
01:06:28
Leo Ernewein
Out of all those openings, the Baltimore Ravens, what is the best job opening for a head coach right now? It would be the New York Giants with the Cam Scadaboo and Jackson Dart.
01:06:34
Lando
I think it would...
01:06:39
Lando
Yeah. Can I give you a one, two, three?
01:06:44
Leo Ernewein
Sure.
01:06:45
Lando
my My first one, I think what I would be be jumping at a bit as a head coach would definitely be Baltimore. I think they still have – I still think they have the team to do it, and I think you just need need a new voice.
01:06:58
Lando
I think i think the the the second one for me would be the New York Giants. I think, i think you know, as much as the Giants drive me nuts as a former – as a Patriots fan – that beat us you know twice in the Super Bowl.
01:07:12
Lando
I do think of all the New York organizations, they have a very classy organization and they have a very... a very good owner who wants to win and do things right. And I, and I, I would, I would jump at the bit if I was a coach to go coach New York giants. And I think my third, i would be very excited to see and try to get this team over the hump would be the Arizona Cardinals.
01:07:41
Leo Ernewein
Jonathan Gannon got sacked too, yeah.
01:07:43
Lando
Yes. Yeah.
01:07:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, for me, it'd probably be Baltimore number one.
01:07:46
Lando
No.
01:07:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you got it. Who wouldn't jump at the chance to coach Lamar?
01:07:53
Lando
Yeah.
01:07:54
Leo Ernewein
Number two, probably the Giants, just based off Jackson Dart and Cam Scadaboo, kind of reminds me of the awesome Saints rookie class that they had when they had Alvin Kamara and Marshawn Lattimore each win defensive rookie of the year.
01:08:08
Leo Ernewein
and the offensive and defensive side, a even though they're Jackson Dart and Cam Scadaboo are both offensive players. It still reminds me of that a little bit.
01:08:16
Lando
Mm-hmm.
01:08:17
Leo Ernewein
So that's going to be number two. The number three job, I might go Cleveland, and that's because their defense is so good, and you got you got Miles Garrett.
01:08:29
Lando
Yes.
01:08:30
Leo Ernewein
That and the the NFC North, or sorry, AFC North, just isn't the strong division that it used to be. the you know The Ravens are up in shambles right now.
01:08:41
Leo Ernewein
Pittsburgh barely made the playoffs and their offense is sputtering and nobody knows what's going on there. And then Cincy, Joe Burrell's always heard they got no offensive line and Zach Taylor still somehow has a job.
01:08:54
Leo Ernewein
So...
01:08:56
Lando
Yeah.
01:08:56
Leo Ernewein
that That division was wide open. And so I think that that might intrigue me as much as I'm used to Cleveland also being a dumpster fire and never wanting to go anything.
01:09:05
Lando
Yeah.
01:09:07
Leo Ernewein
So I don't know, man, take that with the grain of salt, too. Anything else you want to add here, bud?
01:09:10
Lando
Yeah. Well, other than you guy, everybody just enjoy the NFL
Episode Closing & Future Previews
01:09:16
Lando
playoffs. I think it's going interesting, it's going to very interesting. I think we're up for some surprises.
01:09:23
Lando
I, I'm certainly willing to be proven wrong when it comes to the, Jacksonville Jaguars winning the whole thing. But yeah, like like I said, just enjoy enjoy the playoffs because it's going be exciting. like yeah i I love this time the year when in the NFL because you get to watch games both on Saturday and Sunday. So yeah, I'm looking forward to it.
01:09:46
Leo Ernewein
Me too, man. I think the, uh, the NFL, uh, you know, it's wildcard weekend. Why not and go and enjoy it? Right. So hold on.
01:09:56
Lando
Mm-hmm.
01:09:57
Leo Ernewein
just going to pull up the NFL playoffs again and give you my hopeful winner here. I just want to get a list of the teams again. And I would really like to see the Texans go all the way. I'm a big CJ Stroud fan.
01:10:14
Leo Ernewein
I love their head coach too. I think it's D'Amico Ryans. Is his name?
01:10:19
Lando
I believe so, yep.
01:10:19
Leo Ernewein
D'Amico Ryans. I can't remember. Former player of the Texans. Used to be an awesome middle linebacker. And they got Will Anderson, who's an awesome linebacker now. I just... Yeah, I like what the Texans did in the draft a couple of years ago.
01:10:32
Leo Ernewein
And it's nice to see it come to fruition after they had that rough sophomore year. So I want the Texans to win the Super Bowl.
01:10:37
Lando
oh
01:10:39
Leo Ernewein
No idea who they'll face. They are in the in the AFC. So... We both got Texans and Jaguars winning Super Bowl. Wild takes from Leo and Lando here.
01:10:51
Lando
Well, i thought who would have thought that – yeah, I was just going to say, who would have thought that we'd pick pick Super Bowl winners out of that division?
01:10:52
Leo Ernewein
That is... Oh, sorry.
01:11:01
Leo Ernewein
I know, right? When the only one who's ever won one out of that division is
01:11:06
Lando
It's been in Indianapolis.
01:11:08
Leo Ernewein
The Indianapolis Colts.
01:11:08
Lando
Yeah.
01:11:09
Leo Ernewein
Titans came close.
01:11:09
Lando
Yeah.
01:11:10
Leo Ernewein
They lost to the St. Louis Rams in the Music City Miracle 1999 and 2000.
01:11:14
Lando
Yep.
01:11:15
Leo Ernewein
It was one of the two.
01:11:16
Lando
Yep. Yep.
01:11:17
Lando
yep
01:11:17
Leo Ernewein
But yeah, that's that's a wrap for episode 10 here of the Leo and Lando show.
01:11:22
Leo Ernewein
Canada's world junior dominance is gone. The Olympic rosters are set. The NFL playoffs are a fever dream and half the league is looking for new coaches. Thanks for hanging out with us. And whether you're listening on the drive or at the gym or hiding from your responsibilities somewhere else like I do, we appreciate every single one of you. Lando, the floor is yours. Hit them with the shout out.
01:11:43
Lando
so my my shout out is that i would like to thank every single person that listened to us like as always i wish everybody happy healthy safe new year as always and uh keep listening because this is our 10th episode let's keep it rolling
01:12:07
Leo Ernewein
Amen, baby. On episode 10, we'll see you on episode 11 or episode 100 or episode 99 or whatever you choose to listen to. Just do don't don't check for episode 100 yet because we're not there.
01:12:20
Lando
We're not there yet. We're not there yet.
01:12:21
Leo Ernewein
But we will be. We will be.
01:12:22
Lando
We will be.
01:12:23
Leo Ernewein
We'll be back next week with some more heat, some more takes, and probably more things to yell about. Thanks, folks.
01:12:30
Lando
Take care, everybody.
01:12:32
Leo Ernewein
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