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Episode 15 - World Baseball Classic & early NHL Deadline Deals
27 Plays2 months ago
Canada shows some fight in their first WBC tune‑up, and Leo and Lando break down what that means heading into Pool A. Team USA looks tournament‑ready, and the Blue Jays re‑sign Max Scherzer as spring training ramps up. On the NHL side, the Oilers reinforce their blue line ahead of Friday’s trade deadline while the Maple Leafs stumble out of the break.
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Transcript
Introduction and MLB Season Preview
00:00:19
Leo Ernewein
Welcome back to the Leo in Lando show. I'm your host, Leo Wernwein.
00:00:24
Lando
And I'm Landon Lando-Semenuk.
00:00:27
Leo Ernewein
And we got the MLB season looming ahead here. Spring training underway. World Baseball Classic has just kicked off with exhibition play as well. And the NHL trade deadline also coming up fast.
00:00:38
Leo Ernewein
Friday, March 6th, 1 p.m. Mountain Time, 3 p.m. Eastern, and I guess noon Pacific for you guys out west. So there's a lot to get into, but Landon, first man, how are you doing?
00:00:49
Lando
I'm doing well, man. Yeah, doing really well. It's March, and we're marching on through the into spring year.
00:00:56
Lando
Hard to believe.
00:00:58
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Marching into spring. I like how you kept that. Cause I wanted to do, I didn't want to say it myself, but marching into spring, you know, marching into March.
00:01:07
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:01:08
Lando
I'm all about the puns, man.
00:01:10
Lando
Let me tell you. I got a million of them.
00:01:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. That's good. Yeah. Things been well, man. That's, that's good to hear things.
00:01:16
Lando
Yeah, how about you?
00:01:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Nothing, nothing really new things have been well. So same stuff, different day.
00:01:21
Lando
Good.
World Baseball Classic - Canada's Performance
00:01:23
Leo Ernewein
We'll get into topic numero uno here over in Florida and Arizona. The World Baseball Classic warm-up games have started. Canada already had their first one this afternoon. They faced the Blue Jays in Dunedin, Florida. A 10-7 loss, but they showed real pushback. They were down 7-0 early, and they came all the way back in the eighth to tie it.
00:01:42
Leo Ernewein
Jacob Robson had a homer and some good swings from outfielders Denzel Clark. Third baseman, I think third baseman slash first baseman Tyler Black. And the bullpen settled nicely in too after that rough start. And for anybody wondering why Canada was playing against the Blue Jays, it's part of the WBC tune-up schedule.
00:02:01
Leo Ernewein
So MLB sets out these exhibition games every tournament cycle so that national teams can kind of get reps together. But most of those teams... don't really play on the same roster during that year. So they wanted to get like at least a few kind of, kind of spring training games themselves, right?
00:02:17
Leo Ernewein
What better time to do that, I guess, than spring training. Although I can see why some MLB pitchers and pros don't want to participate in this because it is during right before the season, but we'll get into that.
00:02:28
Leo Ernewein
15 other teams played similar games, including the USA. And I think the giants, With Canada being the only, or the Jays being the only team in Canada, that matchup was basically inevitable. Like a clash that almost had to happen is what they're calling it.
00:02:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Canada opens up the tournament officially against Colombia on Saturday. They've got a pretty balanced pool with Cuba, Panama, and Puerto Rico for the first time.
00:02:54
Leo Ernewein
They're not grouped in the United States, that's pretty cool. Puerto Rico also missing some big names this year. Francisco, Indoor, Carlos Correa, and Javi Baez. So the group feels a bit more open than usual. Landon, based on what you saw, did you watch the game today?
00:03:09
Lando
I did not, but I did see the score, and that's good. It was kind of, thought my first reaction to the score was, I'm like, oh, good. It was a close game, you know.
00:03:20
Lando
Good tune-up for Canada, good tune-up for the Blue Jays. But then when you were talking about how Canada was down 7-0, I thought, uh-oh, that's not good. But, I mean, you know, that's why you play tune-up games, and it's not an over-concern. But, mean, anyways, kind of rambling here. But, yeah, just that's neat to see a close game in the end.
Baseball's Cultural Significance in Puerto Rico & Dominican Republic
00:03:43
Lando
And, yeah, that's all I got to say on that one.
00:03:48
Leo Ernewein
No, that's fair. Canada, I mean, the fact that they rallied back from 7-0 is impressive to tie it.
00:03:54
Lando
That is impressive.
00:03:57
Leo Ernewein
So they easily could have packed it in there, right?
00:04:00
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:04:02
Leo Ernewein
And to see that kind of fight early a good sign. And I really like guys like Denzel Clark and Tyler Black. I don't really know much about Jacob Robson, but...
00:04:13
Lando
I... Honestly, looked at their roster, and I... I don't know quite a few of the players, so I'll have to do more research on them and look at where they play and stuff like that. To be honest with I'm looking at the pool right now.
00:04:30
Lando
I think of all the teams that are probably going to be the toughest, I think will probably still be Puerto Rico. But Canada's in a pretty easy division.
00:04:40
Lando
Although Cuba is known for their baseball too. That's one of their national sports.
00:04:46
Lando
So, yeah. I mean, yeah, exactly.
00:04:47
Leo Ernewein
there's no slouch that's a very very even division i'd say there's no like panama's not bad either i'd say puerto rico is the clear favorite though if had to put a one two three i'd probably go puerto rico in canada i'd almost have them tied with cuba or maybe i'd put i don't know that's tough right because cuba's got some superstars too but
00:04:54
Lando
Clear-cut favorite. Yeah, yeah.
00:05:08
Lando
Yeah.
00:05:11
Leo Ernewein
Puerto Rico is also missing guys like Lindor and Correa and Baez that are usually there. But, I mean, if they're missing them, it just means to me that they've usually got somebody else lined
00:05:24
Lando
That's yeah.
00:05:26
Lando
It's a Puerto Rico.
00:05:26
Leo Ernewein
up.
00:05:27
Leo Ernewein
They're not quite gigantic in Republic, but they're also very close to that level of talent.
00:05:29
Lando
Yeah. Very close, but yeah. So, you know, the other thing I was just going to say for, for those who don't know, Baseball for Puerto Rico.
00:05:41
Lando
And, well, I even the Dominican Republic. That is their hockey.
00:05:47
Leo Ernewein
Their hockey.
00:05:49
Lando
Yeah, that's what was going to say.
00:05:51
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, definitely their hockey.
00:05:53
Lando
So, yeah. But, I mean, like I said, Canada looks... I think that of all the divisions that I'm looking at right now, that is probably the most balanced. And I think...
00:06:05
Lando
For the first time in the World Baseball Classic, they actually just might make the playoffs this time.
00:06:12
Leo Ernewein
Nice.
00:06:12
Lando
Or the playoff round, I think, personally. So, just based on what I'm seeing.
00:06:14
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:06:16
Lando
So...
00:06:17
Leo Ernewein
It's still disappointing that Vadi doesn't play first base there, but I get it.
00:06:20
Lando
Yes.
00:06:23
Leo Ernewein
He wants to win a medal.
00:06:25
Lando
Yep. No, I get it.
00:06:28
Leo Ernewein
So do you think the lineup at all, like they got the guys like Josh Naylor, Tyler O'Neal, who's an outfielder, Bo Naylor, the brother of Josh as well, first baseman and center or catcher, sorry, pairing and center. Look, I'm reading hockey stats.
00:06:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. And then they got, I think it's Marlins outfielder, Owen Cassie, Denzel Clark playing the outfield as well. Like they're, I think their offense is, you know, decent enough.
00:06:56
Leo Ernewein
Do you think their offense is enough to carry them through kind of a tight group like that?
00:06:59
Lando
Yep, I do. I do. Isn't, I was going to ask you, and I was looking through, is Freddie Freeman not playing?
00:07:10
Leo Ernewein
I don't think so this year.
00:07:11
Lando
Oh, interesting. Okay, because I thought he would.
00:07:12
Leo Ernewein
No, I think he said he wanted to focus on the MLB season.
00:07:16
Lando
Okay.
00:07:16
Leo Ernewein
I think double check.
00:07:18
Lando
Okay.
00:07:19
Lando
Yeah, because I was kind of. Yeah, because I was going to ask you, because I was looking through
00:07:19
Leo Ernewein
Cause I remember seeing something about Freddie Friedman.
Freddie Freeman's Decision & Team Impact
00:07:26
Lando
the roster for Canada. I'm like, how come Freddie Freeman's not playing?
00:07:30
Lando
But, I mean, that makes sense. If he wants to focus on his MLB season, mean, they've gone to two World Series, and he's played a lot of baseball.
00:07:40
Lando
I get it. But, anyways, your question
00:07:42
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I guess he just withdrawed like a few weeks ago too, man.
00:07:45
Lando
Oh, that sucks. Why would you do that?
00:07:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:07:48
Lando
I hate people who do that, cancel things at the last minute.
00:08:03
Lando
I didn't watch the World Baseball Classic a couple years ago. because I just wasn't really in tune to baseball as I am now. And I'm going to definitely watch this and see how this turns out. I think will be an interesting tournament. And I also encourage all our listeners to watch it too. Or, yeah, to watch it and see how it is. Because this is – if you want to talk about World Cup compared to hockey –
00:08:34
Lando
This is best on best as you possibly can get in the baseball terms.
00:08:35
Leo Ernewein
Good
00:08:38
Lando
And you've got the best of the best in all the countries that are playing.
00:08:39
Leo Ernewein
point, Lando.
00:08:47
Lando
And they're representing their countries and they're going to play their hearts out and hit the bat for the country, basically.
World Baseball Classic - USA & Mexico Teams
00:08:56
Lando
So, yeah, no, that's a really good point on my part that, yeah, this is the best that you can possibly get.
00:09:04
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I love this. And, you know, why not go to represent your country? It's really cool. Unfortunately, think for Freddie Freeman, he, think him and his wife are expecting their fourth child.
00:09:17
Lando
Okay.
00:09:20
Leo Ernewein
So I think it is via surrogate, but still, right, when you're expecting a newborn, you kind of, you know, they want to focus. They're living in California. They just want to focus on I'm staying there for the spring, which is totally understandable.
00:09:34
Lando
I get it.
00:09:37
Leo Ernewein
wanted to ask you, too, with Puerto Rico missing guys like Lindor and Correa and Baez and Cube would be tough. You think Canada's biggest obstacle, who would you see as Canada's biggest obstacle getting out of the pool there?
00:09:50
Lando
I still think it'll be Puerto Rico. I mean, like we've talked about, I think Puerto Rico still, even the guys that are missing, I still, mean, they'll have the next man up, just kind of like how Canada did for the Olympics, right? They'll have the next man up, and that's, you know.
00:10:08
Lando
You know where I'm getting you guys all know what I'm getting at but yeah so I think I think Puerto Rico is the.
00:10:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:10:15
Lando
Probably going to be their toughest challenge I believe, how about you man.
00:10:18
Leo Ernewein
I agree with you too, man.
00:10:20
Lando
yeah.
00:10:21
Leo Ernewein
And then in Arizona, Team USA played their first exhibition too. They beat San Francisco Giants 15 to one.
00:10:27
Lando
San Francisco.
00:10:29
Leo Ernewein
They looked like a powerhouse is probably everybody expected. They had 19 hits in the game. They got have, or they have guys like Aaron Judge, Bryce Harper, Bobby Wett Jr., Alex Bregman, they were all producing. Paul Skeens started for them, struck out four, retired its last nine. Lineup looks pretty loaded. They got Tariq School Bowl, too, throwing the ball. I think he'll only pitch another once or something like that. Do you think this is the strongest American team we've seen at the WECB there, bud?
00:11:00
Lando
I think it is, man. Yeah. Oh, that, that is a good roster.
00:11:02
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
00:11:04
Lando
And I mean, I, I feel bad for Mexico, Italy, Great Britain and Brazil have to play them. I think in the pool B, I think the only team that probably will give them a challenge and a good baseball game is, I mean, Mexico is known for baseball too, right? I mean, we can't, can't forget about, mean, that whole Central America area it's either a soccer player or you're a baseball player or
00:11:32
Lando
Yeah, I think Mexico was going to be the United States' toughest challenge. Like I said... That whole central America either you're a soccer player baseball player, like I said, and yeah like Mexico I think will give the United States a run, but all the other teams it's going to be a complete.
00:11:52
Lando
J.
00:11:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Mexico is a very underrated baseball player. Baseball player, baseball team. I was just going to bring up their second baseman, which I'm pretty sure.
00:12:01
Lando
yeah.
00:12:03
Leo Ernewein
Oh, jeez.
00:12:08
Leo Ernewein
I can't think of his name.
00:12:08
Lando
Kirk is playing on the team.
00:12:10
Lando
Kirk is playing on the team, so.
00:12:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Alejandro Kirk's playing catcher for sure.
00:12:16
Leo Ernewein
Isn't Altuve from Mexico? No, he's from Venezuela. Sorry.
00:12:20
Lando
Venezuela, yeah.
00:12:21
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I was wrong. I always thought he was from Mexico. I was totally wrong.
00:12:25
Lando
They all sound like they could be all from Mexico, don't they?
00:12:28
Leo Ernewein
Well, they all have Spanish heritage names, so it's totally understandable.
00:12:32
Lando
Yeah.
00:12:32
Leo Ernewein
I just wanted to bring up the USA and Mexico's lineup.
00:12:32
Lando
Yeah.
00:12:37
Leo Ernewein
USA lineup, WCB, BC, sorry.
00:12:44
Lando
Oh, I just had it on my phone too.
00:12:47
Leo Ernewein
Mexico, too. I wanted to include this before. I don't know why I didn't have it.
00:12:52
Leo Ernewein
Oh, they have Randy Rosarena on Mexico. I like him. He's good.
00:12:55
Lando
Oh, cool. Good for them. Yeah, okay.
00:12:57
Leo Ernewein
Uh,
00:12:58
Lando
I have the... So here's the roster that they have. I've got... I've got it right on my phone here for our listeners. So they have Duran, Jaron Duran, right fielder, Randy Rosarena, left field, Jonathan Haranda, first base, Landro Kirk, center, Rowdy Tellez. Yeah, sorry, Landro Kirk is catcher.
00:13:25
Lando
What did I say, center? Sorry, everybody. Yeah.
00:13:27
Leo Ernewein
I did the same thing earlier, dude, with...
00:13:30
Lando
I'm thinking basketball here.
00:13:32
Lando
So, uh, designated hitter is, uh, Rowdy Tellez. Gonzalez is third base. Louie Arreas to, uh, second base. Alec Thomas center field. Uh, Joey Ortiz, uh, shortstop and, uh, chew on Walker.
00:13:50
Lando
I'm not sure what SP stands for, but starting pitcher.
00:13:52
Leo Ernewein
He's a starting pitcher.
00:13:54
Lando
Okay.
00:13:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. And they got guys in the bullpen, like Munoz and Vodnik and Bradley. And, you know, they got a decent, decent amount of arms too, that are, that are pretty good. So I like, I like them as an underrated team. I think the USA though, hold on. If I can find their starting lineup, this lists their whole roster and I want,
00:14:20
Leo Ernewein
Starting lineup. Oh, no, I clicked on it again.
00:14:25
Lando
But anyways, but anyways, Mexico.
00:14:27
Leo Ernewein
First, the Giants.
00:14:28
Lando
Yeah, Mexico, Mexico looks Mexico looks good.
00:14:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, and then here's how the USA plays versus the Giants. They had Bobby Witt Jr., shortstop Bryce Harper, batting second at first, Aaron Judge third, Kyle Schwarber, DH, Alex Bregman.
00:14:43
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, Aaron Judge playing right field at batting third. Kyle Schwarber, Yeah, the cleanup.
00:14:51
Lando
Yeah.
00:14:51
Leo Ernewein
I can't remember if the cleanup's the fourth or the third. Jeez, it's been a while since I've played baseball. Alex Bregman, third base. Cal Raleigh after him, catcher that dominates. Roman Anthony, up and coming left fielder for the Boston Red Sox.
00:15:03
Leo Ernewein
Pretty sure Roman Anthony's like 20 or 21, so good for him for making the team. Byron Buxton, center fielder, who's, you know, like the modern version of Torrey Hunter almost. Just awesome in the outfield. I really like Byron Buxton.
00:15:18
Leo Ernewein
And then Bryce Turing in second base. And then Skeetons on the mound. So I don't think that team's going to lose very many games. Yeah, they look pretty good, don't they?
00:15:27
Lando
No.
00:15:30
Lando
They do. No, no. They look pretty good. Pool C I'm looking at right now. Japan, Australia, Korea, Czechia, aka Czech Republic, and Chinese Taipei.
00:15:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:15:47
Lando
Japan should walk all over these teams. The only team that probably will be challenge will be Korea.
00:15:54
Leo Ernewein
Are you looking forward to Japan getting like Shohei Otani getting struck out by a Czech pitcher again? That
00:16:02
Lando
Would that be funny? That'd be hilarious.
00:16:03
Leo Ernewein
probably won't happen twice, but it would be funny.
00:16:05
Lando
No. That would be so funny.
00:16:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:16:11
Lando
Pool B, Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Netherlands, Israel, and Nicaragua.
00:16:20
Leo Ernewein
So sorry, Netherlands, Israel, Nicaragua.
00:16:20
Lando
And
00:16:23
Leo Ernewein
Who was the first one?
Israel's Baseball Emergence
00:16:24
Leo Ernewein
Venezuela.
00:16:24
Lando
Venezuela, yeah, so I'll say them again. So Venezuela, Dominican Republic, Netherlands, Israel, Nicaragua.
00:16:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Venezuela are my favorite for that one for sure.
00:16:35
Lando
Yep. Yep. Dominican Republic could potentially maybe make some noise. I'll say this to everybody. Israel's baseball has come a long, long way too. So if there's anybody in this whole world baseball classic other than Canada that could make some noise, Israel could definitely do that too.
00:16:56
Leo Ernewein
Interesting.
00:16:58
Lando
Yeah, Israel's underrated when it comes to baseball, too.
00:16:59
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:17:04
Lando
That's kind of one of their national sports next to soccer. Baseball's the next one. And I know this...
00:17:13
Lando
I know this for a fact because I'm friends with an Israelite who he says soccer is always number one. mean, I mean, anybody in Europe and Asia, Middle East, you know, Africa, South America, Central America, soccer is always number one.
00:17:28
Leo Ernewein
But like basketball and judo has got to up there too.
00:17:32
Lando
Basketball is up there. He said, yep. And, and then, yeah, he says baseball is really popular in Israel too. So.
00:17:39
Leo Ernewein
And the reason I say judo is because I looked it up. I realized how insensitive that totally sounds after I said it.
00:17:46
Lando
No, all good. Well, there's not very many Israel people going to be listening to us, so you're all good to chirp them a little bit.
00:17:54
Leo Ernewein
Gotcha. Clear in the air there just to be safe.
00:17:56
Lando
Clear in the air. Yeah, just to clear the air.
00:18:00
Leo Ernewein
Can never be too sure.
00:18:01
Lando
Exactly.
00:18:03
Leo Ernewein
But what happened to my questions here? Here they Sorry. Opened up another window by accident. Yeah, the American team looks stacked for sure.
00:18:12
Lando
Oh yeah.
00:18:15
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. So does DR or Dominican Republic. With Vladdy and Fernando Tatis and Manny Machado.
00:18:25
Leo Ernewein
That's where all my favorite players always come from. Dominican Republic.
00:18:29
Lando
Yep. Yeah. Well, and, and, and there's a lot of baseball players who come out of there too, right?
00:18:30
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:18:34
Lando
I mean, there's tons who are playing in a major league baseball right now. So, I mean, yeah, they're, they're, they're, uh, Their pool of talent is definitely there.
00:18:46
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, this is their Olympics.
00:18:48
Lando
Yes.
00:18:49
Leo Ernewein
Without a doubt. And speaking of... Well, not really, because they're at the Olympics too. And they play in the summer games, but... I bet you this has some weight in their country.
Blue Jays' Offseason Moves & Bo Bichette's Transition
00:18:58
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, just after the Olympics, Blue Jays signed 41-year-old or re-signed 41-year-old Max Scherzer, one-year $3 million deal.
00:19:06
Leo Ernewein
And one of his daughters wrote to the Jays, sorry, wrote the Jays a letter saying that the family wanted to stay in Toronto and it went everywhere kind of viral online. Like, Landon, did you see that?
00:19:18
Lando
Yes, I did.
00:19:19
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:19:19
Lando
that was cute.
00:19:20
Lando
Oh, oh, I thought that was awesome.
00:19:20
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you thought it was awesome, eh?
00:19:21
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:19:26
Leo Ernewein
Mm-hmm.
00:19:33
Lando
It'll be out there. And, and how I found it was, uh, TSN and Sportsnet, posted it on their social media feeds and,
00:19:42
Lando
So did the score and it went all over Facebook. But what a cool letter. mean, that just shows you, you know, where her heart is that she cares about.
00:19:52
Lando
She wants to be in one place. She wants to be in one place every year. And it sounds like Toronto has warmed her heart. And sounds like the family itself has really liked living there too. So that just speaks volumes to where Toronto is at as a lovable place and a safe place for families.
00:20:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, so the letter said, Dear Blue Jays, I'm sorry that you didn't win the World Series. But keep in mind, this is coming from a daughter, right? A young, I don't know how old she is.
00:20:23
Lando
We'll say five to ten-ish.
00:20:24
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:20:24
Leo Ernewein
Eight, eight, eight-year-old daughter Brooke.
00:20:28
Leo Ernewein
Where does it say here? I'm sorry that you didn't win the World Series. I hope that you win next time. So there we go. hope my dad is back on the team. My whole family loves spending time in Toronto.
00:20:40
Leo Ernewein
I'm glad she didn't say in the 6th with our dad. We love the aquarium, the CN Tower, and of course the stadium. I'm looking forward to coming back next season. I love Max Scherzer's daughter.
00:20:51
Leo Ernewein
So she didn't say love broke, but... She also said love Max Scherzer daughter was the direct quote.
00:21:00
Lando
Yeah, neat letter.
00:21:00
Leo Ernewein
Also Scherzer I guess his wife didn't send the letter to the Blue Jays. Just want to see how they found it.
00:21:09
Leo Ernewein
That's what it says here. That's a bad negotiation tactic. He and his wife didn't send the letter to the Blue Jays. Well, how do they find it?
00:21:18
Lando
And who got it?
00:21:19
Lando
Yeah.
00:21:21
Leo Ernewein
Let's see.
00:21:23
Leo Ernewein
his kids were writing to Santa Claus in December.
00:21:26
Lando
Oh, that makes sense.
00:21:28
Leo Ernewein
And somehow Scherzer agreed to, so after they re-signed the deal, the contract, his wife posted the handwritten note from his daughter on Instagram.
00:21:40
Leo Ernewein
There we go.
00:21:40
Lando
Oh, cool.
00:21:42
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:21:45
Lando
Neat.
00:21:46
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, no, it's kind of a cool thing. And Max Scherzer is an awesome guy. If he can't, Oh, because I've seen people comment something like, oh, he's, there goes half the season on IR again and all that sort stuff. He's 41, man.
00:22:03
Leo Ernewein
He's not Nolan Ryan. He's not throwing up records until he's 41. He probably will make the Hall of Fame, though. That is more than any of us can ever say, right? Well, not any of us, but most of us.
00:22:16
Leo Ernewein
So, I don't know. I think he's there just as a great mentor and leadership wise anyways. But you think the Blue Jays have done enough this offseason to make another push with this roster? Like they lost Bo Bichette, right? It does.
00:22:30
Lando
Yeah, that one hurts. Oh, that one hurts.
00:22:32
Leo Ernewein
It does.
00:22:33
Lando
Yeah, that hurts for any – I mean, for fans and for the Blue Jays. But, I mean, watched a bit of their spring – think it was yesterday.
00:22:44
Lando
was at the Canadian Brewer House for lunch while was on shift at IGA. And don't know if this was a live game, but they were playing Boston.
00:22:54
Lando
And I saw Schneider was hitting, and I can't remember. Oh, Ernie Clement hit a – I can't remember if he hit a home run or if it was a base run. But anyways, you know, I think the Blue Jays, they're going to be fine.
00:23:10
Lando
I don't think that they're – anybody – I don't think that their roster is going to hurt anywhere. I think what I think is going to hurt them a little bit is their offense is going to have to come from somewhere. And that is something that...
00:23:27
Lando
I'm a little concerned about this time is their batting might be a little weak this year compared to last year where that was kind of their strength. But I mean, I'm willing to be wrong, but everything else that I think they have,
00:23:41
Lando
I think their pitching is fine. I think that's been a huge upgrade that they've really focused on was getting enough pitching depth because I think that somewhat hurt them a little bit last year as it was getting into the nitty-gritty against the Dodgers that they were starting to select pitchers who they thought that could – help them win. And they didn't have a lot of talent, a lot of, lot on their roster to choose from. So I think that's something that they've addressed this year.
00:24:16
Lando
And we'll see though. I mean, how do you feel about the men?
00:24:21
Leo Ernewein
I'm a little less high on them than last year, man. I want to see Trey Savage have a full dominant year, though. I'm excited to see him. More of him.
00:24:32
Leo Ernewein
Right?
00:24:33
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:24:33
Leo Ernewein
Arjun Damola. think he's a shortstop slash second base and third baseman. I wonder if he could fill Bobachette's long-term spot.
00:24:45
Leo Ernewein
Because, I don't know, they didn't really... Like they lost him and I don't think they replaced him with anything, right?
00:24:52
Lando
Mm-hmm. And that's a hard...
00:24:53
Leo Ernewein
Although they get Jesus Sanchez from the Astros for Joey Loperfito.
00:24:54
Lando
Sorry to cut you off. That's a hard guy to cut off.
00:24:59
Leo Ernewein
And I thought that was kind of an upgrade, especially doing that one for one.
00:25:00
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:25:03
Lando
Yeah.
00:25:04
Leo Ernewein
But I'm really high on Jesus Sanchez. Also, he's Dominican. I'm biased. He's going to kill it.
00:25:10
Lando
Yeah.
00:25:10
Leo Ernewein
Let's go. He's got nice pop and he's got nice speed. And I think that can play really well in Toronto. I think Toronto does a great job at identifying talent.
00:25:19
Lando
Yeah, they do. And I mean, like I said, mean, nobody's going to be able to, when you lose a guy like Bo Brichette, those guys are hard to find in, you know, in any league, a long time player in any sport who's been known for their offense and you lose them, they're hard to find you have to rebuild. And sometimes you have to do it by committee. So, so you don't think the Blue Jays are going to do as well this year as they did last year.
00:25:49
Leo Ernewein
No, I don't, but you're right that replacing a guy like Bobach at his heart, because he's a homegrown player
00:25:58
Leo Ernewein
that you drafted and stuff like that. But I think he was more known for his bat than his offense, right?
00:26:05
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:26:05
Leo Ernewein
Or sorry, than his defense. And I'm pretty sure he didn't have the greatest year last year numbers-wise. I'm trying to pull up his stats. Why is this so hard?
00:26:19
Leo Ernewein
Supposed to be doing it while I was talking earlier.
00:26:22
Leo Ernewein
Quit lagging.
00:26:25
Lando
This is, yeah, well, you know folks? This is, we both are doing this on our laptops while we're chatting. It's trying to find all this stuff for you so that we get the, oh, did you okay?
00:26:34
Leo Ernewein
No, but I should have this before. Okay, he in games last Okay, I lied. He batted over 311, so he had an excellent average.
00:26:46
Lando
Okay.
00:26:46
Leo Ernewein
What's his slugging percentage? 483 on base, 357.
00:26:53
Leo Ernewein
18 homers, 94 RBI, which is pretty good. 100... Where's his hits? Does say hits? It doesn't say hits. Why would you not tell me hits? Okay, well, his war was 3.8, which his...
00:27:06
Leo Ernewein
Fourth best career posted war, which is wins above replacement. I really like when they use that stat because it kind of shows how above average, like if you combine all the stats and you find a middle average, that's zero.
00:27:25
Leo Ernewein
And so this guy's playing almost four times above average.
00:27:29
Leo Ernewein
Well, I don't know about four times, but four points above average. I don't think it's four times. I think four times was the wrong word used. A grading system, if you're playing minus one, you'd be not one times below average, but Because, I don't know, they probably have to find the highest and the lowest to find how many times. I'm getting myself confused here. Let's not get anybody else confused I'm sure we are.
00:27:54
Leo Ernewein
Let's not make ourselves look worse than we need to, right?
00:27:59
Lando
exactly stay classy
00:28:01
Leo Ernewein
I just feel like Bichette, though, from what I saw last season, his offense was very streaky. Even though he a bat over at 311, I still think streaky.
00:28:12
Leo Ernewein
And his defense is just... I don't think he's a shortstop, and I don't think he's a third baseman. That's why he's playing second for the Mets. And even then, sometimes... I think he was actually playing third as well, and he just doesn't have the arm to throw it.
00:28:28
Leo Ernewein
So he should be playing second for the Mets. Sorry. Because he just doesn't have the arm to get those long-distance throws off, especially from third base.
00:28:38
Leo Ernewein
And then Skloff's never been renowned, but I'm talking, think I'm really nitpicking here. Cause this is a, at one point I'm all started. I'm sitting in my basement talking on a podcast. So take it with a grain of salt.
00:28:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Do you think the Jays? Yeah. I think I already asked you, right? The Jays are, you think they're kind of fine.
00:28:58
Lando
They'll be okay. Yeah, like I think, yeah, they do.
00:29:00
Leo Ernewein
They still got that core together mostly.
00:29:02
Lando
Yeah, you know And you got to remember too, folks, that in this division, of all the divisions in baseball, and I'll remind people who are in Toronto's division, the Baltimore Orioles, the Tampa Bay Rays, the Boston Red Sox, and the New York Yankees.
00:29:20
Lando
I mean, they've all, I've watched a little bit of their transactions through the offseason, especially with Boston and New York. and Baltimore too, and Tampa They've all made moves to improve themselves. So this division, you know, I could very well see possibly least four out of the five teams in this division challenging for playoff spot come the fall.
00:29:47
Lando
That's just how good all four of these teams are.
00:29:50
Leo Ernewein
I could honestly see all three AL wild cards coming from, you know, from this.
00:29:54
Lando
Yeah, I mean, was being generous. I was being generous saying four of the five, but I could very easily see, you're right, very easily could see all five of them.
00:30:03
Leo Ernewein
That would still be four. No, because three wild cards and then one division winner.
00:30:05
Lando
What would it be for?
00:30:08
Lando
that's right.
00:30:09
Leo Ernewein
You can't see that.
00:30:09
Lando
No, so I was right.
00:30:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:30:10
Lando
So I was right. So four out of the five. But, I mean, all five could very well easily make the playoffs too.
00:30:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:30:16
Lando
Like, that's just how competitive this division is.
00:30:18
Leo Ernewein
No, it's statistically impossible.
00:30:28
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:30:30
Lando
But you have to play the games. We all thought last year, least a lot of it, not me, but a lot of analysts thought last year Baltimore was going to take the next step. They had the worst record in baseball.
00:30:43
Lando
Worst record. I mean, and they did like, I think they were like, I can't remember what the record is, but was her.
00:30:44
Leo Ernewein
Wow.
00:30:51
Lando
It was, it was horrendous last year.
00:30:53
Leo Ernewein
Definitely the worst in the division. Yeah, like guys like Gunnar Henderson and Adley Rushman and some stuff.
00:30:55
Lando
Yeah. They were, think. Yeah. Like, I think they, they, they literally had like, it was just, it was awful.
00:31:03
Leo Ernewein
They're a baller or something like that. Oh, I forget his name. It's Hedrick, but no.
00:31:09
Leo Ernewein
Colton Bowser. There we go. Sorry, didn't think of it off the top of my head. But yeah, they got, and then they signed Pete Alonzo this year at first base.
00:31:16
Lando
Yep.
00:31:16
Leo Ernewein
Talk about stacked, right? Like, they got Jackson Holliday coming through at second base, or he's already there.
00:31:18
Lando
Yep. No, they've improved themselves.
00:31:23
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, what were you going say?
00:31:25
Lando
I was going to say Baltimore had 75-87 record last year.
00:31:31
Leo Ernewein
Severely disappointing.
00:31:32
Lando
Very disappointing considering the roster that they have. So, yeah. So, I mean, the American League East is definitely one of the best divisions in baseball. So, keep an eye
00:31:43
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, because you got the Red Sox, who are always good. Even if they traded away their Rafael Tevers last year, right?
00:31:47
Lando
Yankees. Yeah.
00:31:53
Lando
Yeah.
00:31:53
Leo Ernewein
Which was kind out of nowhere.
00:31:53
Lando
Yep.
00:31:54
Leo Ernewein
They got Roman Anthony. They got, you know, Christian Campbell, Marcello Meyer. They got a whole up-and-coming young core that's supposed to be really good.
00:32:05
Leo Ernewein
It's going to stay with them for a couple years, too, which will be nice. Well, nice if you're Red Sox fan. Not nice for anybody else. They got the Yankees. Not they, but there's the Yankees in that division. Aaron Judge, need you say less.
00:32:18
Leo Ernewein
You know, they're always going to be strong. Can't wait until Paul Skeen signs with the Yankees in a few years in the offseason, right? That'll be...
00:32:26
Lando
Everybody wants to be a Yankee.
00:32:28
Leo Ernewein
Well, I just know he does. I just know he does. I don't care if he doesn't admit it now.
Tampa Bay Rays' Stadium Renovations
00:32:33
Leo Ernewein
I'm pretty sure he has admitted it or anything. There's some sort of teasing going on, but it's only matter of time before that happens.
00:32:38
Lando
Gotcha. Yeah, okay.
00:32:40
Leo Ernewein
So hopefully they won't win as much before he gets there.
00:32:40
Lando
Yep.
00:32:43
Leo Ernewein
And then you have the Tampa Bay Rays who always manage to pull out players out nowhere and just, they just turn into like elite players. And you're like, how does this happen?
00:32:53
Lando
Hmm.
00:32:54
Leo Ernewein
They're a great development organization. They really like the race for what they do.
00:32:59
Leo Ernewein
Stadium and fan environment might say otherwise, though, because you have no idea where they're playing, right? I think they're still playing out of like a spring training place or something like that. I'm not sure if the race stadium everything got fixed.
00:33:17
Leo Ernewein
raised land transfer land approval, raise ownership entered in memoriam under understanding to build a stadium and mixed use entertainment district. Okay.
00:33:26
Leo Ernewein
So there's still, don't even know if they're playing at the drop.
00:33:27
Lando
They're still at Tropicana. Yeah,
00:33:32
Leo Ernewein
Okay. Last year had some sort of hurricane hit it and that's why they're there.
00:33:36
Lando
so Tropicana Field was supposed to be a place where people could go for... Well, actually not for people to go. That was actually where all the rescue teams were supposed to go.
00:33:49
Lando
and shelter, and they were going to lay a whole bunch of beds out on the field. And then I think it was also supposed to be place where people could go to wait out the storm. And what happened is that the wind was so strong that it completely blew off the roof. So there went their rescue center.
00:34:08
Lando
And so I don't know the estimated cost of this, but I think it was well over $200 million, give or But They completely redid the roof, so the roof will never, ever get damaged from any storm again. So they've updated that. I guess there was some severe flooding in the concourse area, so they've re-renovated all that.
00:34:32
Lando
They've fixed the field, and I think they've updated the seats, and so it's pretty much almost like a brand-new, renovated Tropicana field.
00:34:45
Leo Ernewein
All right, Landon, we're going down to Tampa. We're catching a few games.
00:34:48
Lando
Let's go. Let's go.
00:34:49
Leo Ernewein
We're going to right next to that Tampa Bay Rays heckler guy that used to, I don't know if he still goes to games, but for like a long time, he used to sit right behind the camera, behind the catcher or whatever, and just yell and heckle Blue Jays stuff. You'd always see him on the broadcast. He was hilarious.
00:35:08
Leo Ernewein
Put up stupid signs, Just hated the Blue Jays. I don't know why. I thought it was awesome. I'd go sit right next to him and just cheer on the Blue Jays.
NHL Trade Updates: Oilers & Leafs
00:35:18
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, we'll jump over here to the back half of stuff, the You know, trade deadline kind of coming up here real soon, Friday, March 6th, 1 p.m. Mountain Time.
00:35:29
Leo Ernewein
Things are starting to move as well. Oilers made another move. Connor Murphy traded from the Chicago Blackhawks for second-round pick. Chicago retaining half his salary as well. And Anju Maggiapani was placed on waivers and cleared, so he stays in the Oilers organization. Lando, do you think the Oilers kind of are finished here before the deadline, or is there another move coming?
00:35:50
Lando
Well, Andrew Maggiapane got picked up off waivers from the Minnesota Wild. So he's a, yeah, so that's okay.
00:35:57
Leo Ernewein
Oh, he did. Okay, thank you.
00:35:59
Lando
No, that's fine. So he did, so Minnesota picked him up off waivers. So he is no longer on Edmonton's books.
00:36:08
Lando
I think Minnesota gave up a draft pick to Edmonton for picking him up off waivers. But as far as Edmonton goes, I think they're still probably going to look for another forward if they can.
00:36:22
Lando
There's rumors. I was talking to an Oiler fan at work today. He seems to think that Edmonton is looking at Jordan Biddington.
00:36:32
Leo Ernewein
Interesting.
00:36:34
Lando
No kidding, eh? And apparently his sources that he gets on his phone, apparently Jordan Biddington as of today, March 3rd, has... waived his no trade clause. So he looks like, sounds like he's interested in getting out of St. Louis. So that'll be interesting, but we'll talk about the blues a little bit more as the, we do the around the league segment.
00:37:02
Lando
But as far as Edmonton goes, I think if they could find another forward, would do i think that would be kind of some something that they would do they could get jordan bennington that would be a huge upgrade in goaltending but i i think that you know when you you give up as much as they did with steward skinner for tristan jari i think they're gonna sink or swim with jari so But, I mean, Edmonton's one of the two teams in Canada right now that are challenging for a playoff spot. So hopefully we at least have one or two Canadian teams in the playoffs. But anyways, we'll talk more about the Canadian teams in a little bit here. But I don't think, I think that's kind of where Edmonton's at with the trade deadline.
00:37:49
Lando
What do you think, Leo?
00:37:51
Leo Ernewein
Well, yeah, I like the Bennington rumor that you kind of splashed there because we didn't have that in. And that's kind of cool that – well, I think you did have a little bit in there, but you didn't really say to who. Like, you kind of teased me about it. So that was cool. I like that. And I wasn't – I was originally going to say, you know what, it's not going to matter much for the players who they put in goal without that kind of defense that they had in front of them. But – Sorry, I really like the ad of Connor Murphy because, you know, he's big.
00:38:22
Leo Ernewein
He shoots right foot. He plays defense first, low-risk game, 62 hits so far this year. A lot of shots blocked. I think it's like high 90s or close to 90s, 87, so high 80s, 60 games. he's handled – you know, the heavy penalty kill and the defensive end assignments.
00:38:40
Leo Ernewein
And with Chicago retaining like 50% of his 4.4 million cap hit, Edmonton only pays 2.2 for a second round pick. That's, that's the way to add defense, like to address your defensive problem while trying to keep on, while doing it in cap friendly way. And you have to give up draft capital to do that.
00:39:04
Leo Ernewein
Unfortunately, know, second round picks are still, really nice to have that's that's it had to be done for sure so i like that ad for them i would like to see bennington out there still i don't know not jordy bennington's biggest fan but i want the oilers to do well a lot of people at work that i work with like them and and stuff like that and there's this huge flames or there's rifle going on and i'm completely removed because i don't Yeah, it's just fun.
00:39:31
Lando
Yep.
00:39:32
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, it's only fun because my team's doing awful, and I presume like they don't exist, and we'll hop into them here at a second. Toronto Maple Leafs went into the break on a four-game win streak, and since the break, they've been getting hammered, three straight losses, one against the Panthers, Tampa Bay Lightning against the Senators.
00:39:52
Leo Ernewein
think it was like 6-2, 5-2 against the Senators, something like that. I think it was against the Senators.
00:39:56
Lando
Yeah, awful.
00:39:58
Leo Ernewein
There's already rumors that Craig Berube might not even finish the season or might not get renewed. What's going on there,
00:40:06
Lando
Okay, well, how much time do you have?
00:40:09
Leo Ernewein
Mm-hmm.
00:40:10
Lando
So anyways, I've been thinking about this a lot within the last month or so. And with the Toronto Maple Leafs, I believe that's what's going on on the team is they have no depth.
00:40:23
Lando
They have no defense. They've given the captaincy to the wrong person. They've sunk or swam for many, many years with this core group.
00:40:36
Lando
They've traded away all their assets to help this core group to try to get themselves better. They've been very greedy organization as far all we want to do is get into the playoffs so that they can make money.
00:40:49
Lando
I mean, not...
00:40:49
Leo Ernewein
Mm-hmm.
00:40:50
Lando
Right? I mean... And it's showing. Like, they just... They've got to strip everything down and they've got to start over. Now, I don't believe MLSC has that appetite to change things.
00:41:05
Lando
But you know what? They've allowed the Argonauts to rebuild. They've allowed the Blue Jays to completely turn things around and rebuild and restock the cupboards. And now look at them.
00:41:17
Lando
The Raptors were allowed... They did after they won their championship 2019, they were retool everything and change everything and now the Raptors are back into you know top five in the NBA in the Eastern Conference at least so as far as Toronto that's just where I feel the Leafs are I just I think they have lack of character think they have the wrong coaching on the team and I mean we say that a lot we've said that a lot with the
00:41:46
Leo Ernewein
I don't even like their general manager.
00:41:48
Lando
And they've got the wrong general manager too. Like, Brad Tree Living... mean, all Flame fans will agree with me. And I know, Leo, you will too. Brad Tree Living...
00:41:58
Lando
handcuffed the Flames on a lot of contracts that are currently sitting with the Flames, a.k.a. Jonathan Huberto. He has no...
00:42:05
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:42:07
Lando
I don't think Brad Tree Living has any clue how to rebuild a team, how to build a team, who to sign. He just signs guys because... Oh, I better keep these guys so they keep everybody happy. Because, I mean, the Coyotes back when, you know, the Arizona Coyotes, they had them. He destroyed that team, too. He said, oh, we don't need to rebuild or anything like that. Everybody wants to come play in Phoenix slash Arizona. Well, nobody came. Look what happened.
00:42:34
Lando
And so, and they lost, you know, not that he's the blame for where the Coyotes situation is, but I mean, there's a lot, there's a lot more to that.
00:42:41
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:42:44
Lando
But anyways, as far as Toronto goes, yeah, just, they've got the wrong people in the wrong places and they've got the wrong people running the organization and they need to completely clean house, including what they have as their player roster.
00:42:58
Lando
They need to get rid of Morgan Riley. They need to get rid of, they, I think they need to trade Austin Matthews. He needs to get out of Toronto. William Nylander needs to get out of Toronto.
00:43:11
Lando
They just need to completely get rid of much as they can and rebuild that whole organization so that they can get another crack at it because it's not working anymore. And it's,
00:43:21
Lando
clearly showing i mean you're frustrated leo as a as a leaf fan i mean i'm not i'm not a leaf fan they're one of my most hated teams not the fans
00:43:31
Leo Ernewein
So this is just pure joy you.
00:43:33
Lando
this is pure joy to see this organization just falter because they think they're the center of the universe which mean a lot of toronto people feel that way but uh That's just where I'm at with the Leafs. They need to completely strip everything down. And, yeah, it's – or I was going to go with it as I'm not a fan of them, but they are frustrating to watch. And I'm not even – I don't even like them.
00:44:02
Lando
And they're just – they just – it's very bizarre what's going on in Leafland, in my opinion. Leo, the floor is yours.
00:44:10
Leo Ernewein
So they're definitely going to be sellers at the trade deadline for sure. Guys like Scott Lawton or Bobby McMahon probably going to be going. I think the Leafs for picks as far as next year goes.
00:44:25
Leo Ernewein
But this year, sorry, they don't have a first rounder. They don't have a second. They have a third. They don't have a fourth. They have a fifth. They have a sixth. They don't have a seventh. They don't have a first next year. They have one second next year. They don't have a third next year.
00:44:38
Leo Ernewein
They got a few sixes, a fourth, a fifth, and a seventh. And they're missing their fourth in 2028. So they need some picks if they're going to rebuild through. Because otherwise, he's just going handicap Brad Trilling. He's going to handicap them. And the trade for... Oh, man. The trade for Brandon Carlo irks me.
00:44:57
Leo Ernewein
Where they dealt a first-round pick, which is probably going be in the top ten now, which is this year's first-round pick. And Fraser Minton... Right?
00:45:07
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:45:08
Leo Ernewein
man. I'm sorry. They shedded Frazier Mitten's contract in a first-round pick and a fourth round to rival Boston. And,
00:45:18
Leo Ernewein
you know, it doesn't mean that Carlos boosts in the team's defensive blue line all because they're not going to the playoffs. Like, you got them... to take him to the playoffs that I feel like he might be traded to Oliver Ekman Larson might be traded like the whole there's gonna be a fire sale there was brutal
00:45:36
Lando
And then they thought they had the goaltending. I forgot to say this too. They forgot. I forgot about their goaltending. Like they thought they, you know, the amount of goalies that they've, the amount of goalies that they've gone through and they thought they had in Anthony Stallars. He had a career year last year and he's barely played this year. He's been hurt most of the season.
00:45:55
Lando
So was wool.
00:45:55
Leo Ernewein
Joseph Wonderball, baby.
00:45:57
Leo Ernewein
until he gets hurt.
00:45:58
Lando
Yeah. Well, wool isn't even proven anything. Yeah. Yeah.
00:46:01
Leo Ernewein
It's until he gets hurt, then somebody else will come in.
00:46:05
Leo Ernewein
But yeah, Leafs, downward spiral right now. Not fun to be a fan. It's not really fun to be another fan of most Canadian teams outside the Montreal Canadiens and the Edmonton Oilers because the rest of the Canadian teams are kind of slumping. What do you think of those situations right now as the deadline approaches their land in?
00:46:25
Lando
Well, I'm really surprised with Winnipeg. thought that based on what they did last year, making a run to the second round, that I thought they would be kind of somewhat similar to what they were. Not that they would win the conference, but I just thought that they'd be lot better than they are. And the problem with Winnipeg is they have a good first line.
00:46:48
Lando
They have goaltending. I think they have defense, but they lack third and fourth line depth that can help them score. And even second line, too. They just don't have balanced scoring from second and third and fourth lines to help Mark Shifley and Kyle Conner. So when teams play Winnipeg, it's not hard to shut down Velarde, Shifley, and Conner.
00:47:16
Lando
when they're playing against other teams to shut them down because that's all they have. And, and so, and then Connor Hallibuck is, you know, asked this down on his head, which last few games against Winnipeg or against Anaheim and San Jose, he had to. And, you know, it's just, that's a tall task too. That's a hard ask.
00:47:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:47:46
Lando
I was surprised that they struggled as bad as they did out of the gate. But as far as where they were, I'm not surprised. Vancouver...
00:47:58
Leo Ernewein
Just brutal.
00:48:01
Lando
Toronto is not nearly as bad as Vancouver. Let's put it that way. At least Toronto has some guys they can possibly build around like Bobby McMahon and Matthew Nise.
00:48:11
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:48:11
Lando
Vancouver has nothing. And, you know, we talked about Vancouver quite a bit in a couple episodes, but Vancouver just has nothing. And this is just complete oversight on, you know, past management.
00:48:26
Lando
and ownership have really let a lot of – and ownership. They've just – it is just shocking to watch what's going on in Vancouver. And I happen to like the Canucks. I want Vancouver to do as well as anybody in Canada. But they've just – they've got to – they've got us, whether it's ownership or management convincing ownership,
00:48:51
Lando
that this is the direction we're going. This is what we need to do to get better. This is how we're going to get to this spot. This is our plan and stick with it. Instead of, you know, trying to sign all these free agent guys and hoping that, you know, everything will get band-aided together. It just doesn't work. Like Jake DeBrusque has been a bust.
00:49:11
Lando
I mean, Elias Pedersen looks like he's just so disinterested that he, like, I can't believe that they signed him to an 11-year an 8-year, $11 million contract. He's not worth $11 million. I mean, the way he's been playing the last two seasons, like, they let the wrong guy go.
00:49:30
Lando
JT Miller went on his way to New York. They let the wrong guy go. Like, it was just brutal to watch how Vancouver's just spiraled. And then, mean, don't even think Adam Foote is a very good... I mean, as much as I love Adam Foote as a former avs, I mean, I don't think he's a very good coach for the players that they have either. So, like, it's... I'm Zeev Booiam and...
00:49:56
Lando
Oh, what's his face? I can't, I've worried with the other player that they got from Minnesota.
00:50:02
Leo Ernewein
Oh,
00:50:04
Lando
Ogren and there's one other guy that they got. I'm blanking. If you can help. Anyways, I'll continue on if you can find that, Leo. But anyways, if I was those three Minnesota wild guys, I'd be like, man, we're never going to win for a while.
00:50:18
Lando
So, like it's just, Vancouver, Vancouver's just
00:50:23
Leo Ernewein
and Marco Rousey.
00:50:24
Lando
Marco Rossi. Thank you. So, and then, you know, they've been trying to put their eggs all in one basket with goaltending like Kevin Lankanen and gosh, I'm blanking tonight. Why am I doing that? Their other goalie.
00:50:42
Lando
I'm blanking tonight.
00:50:43
Leo Ernewein
Patrick Demko's done for the year.
00:50:44
Lando
Thank you. Yeah, Thatcher Damko is done for the year, and they've re-signed him for a five-year, it was $30 million contract somewhere in there. And he's been injured prone, so it's just been brutal all the way.
00:50:54
Leo Ernewein
a tough look.
00:50:57
Leo Ernewein
So they got Nikita Tilopio and Kevin Lankanen backstop in the net.
00:51:00
Lando
Yeah. Oh. And they...
00:51:02
Leo Ernewein
Negative what? Like 71 goal difference so far this year.
00:51:05
Lando
Yeah. Worst record in the league.
00:51:06
Leo Ernewein
Worse than the league.
00:51:08
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:51:09
Lando
going over to Ottawa, they're not out of it, but Ottawa's like, I've said this a few times in our other podcasts that Ottawa's problem is number seven.
Senators' Playoff Prospects & Leadership Debate
00:51:24
Lando
I don't think he's a leader. I think he's just, he's just, uh, uh, uh, a cannonball shooting out of a cannon.
00:51:34
Lando
And I think that's,
00:51:34
Leo Ernewein
So what do you do with them?
00:51:37
Lando
You know what?
00:51:40
Lando
I know he likes playing there.
00:51:40
Leo Ernewein
You drafted them, what do you do?
00:51:42
Lando
Say that again.
00:51:44
Leo Ernewein
You drafted them, you're stuck with them, what do you do?
00:51:47
Lando
Well, I think you have to ask the serious question. If they don't make the playoffs this year, you have to ask. The organization is going to have to sit down and think, okay, is this the roster that we want to have on our team too? And I think if you look at your captain, I think you look at moving him too and having somebody else take the reins as captain. I really think he's the problem.
00:52:12
Lando
in Ottawa is Brady Kachuk. I think he's... may be a tough... He may be... He works very, very hard out there. He wears... takes hockey seriously. He takes his team seriously. But I just don't think he's leadership... I just don't think he has the leadership pedigree that you need to lead a hockey team.
00:52:32
Leo Ernewein
Okay, so another team obviously doing fire sales, though, the Blues with Bennington being rumored out.
00:52:32
Lando
Leo...
00:52:38
Leo Ernewein
They're also rumored out that Robert Thomas and Jordan Cairo might be out. Then I saw a deal just now, rumor posted by HockeyBuzz.com, written by Eklund.
00:52:48
Leo Ernewein
Could Brady Kachuk be traded for Robert Thomas and Jordan Cairo in a blockbuster deal? What do think about that?
00:52:55
Lando
Oh, that would be a good trade for both teams.
00:52:58
Leo Ernewein
I think that could be a win-win. I mean, you got one of the jerks back in St.
00:53:01
Lando
Yeah.
00:53:02
Leo Ernewein
Louis where his dad played, right?
00:53:04
Lando
hmm.
00:53:06
Lando
Yep.
00:53:08
Leo Ernewein
He kind of feels like he's a St. Louis energy player, scrappy, you know? There's risk on both sides, but I feel like you could gamble and could still work.
00:53:19
Leo Ernewein
I don't know how likely it is. because if the Blues are making a trade, they're probably going for somebody a bit younger, as far as picks and a prospect, as opposed to Chuck, probably wouldn't fit their window.
00:53:33
Leo Ernewein
Right? But he's still on the younger side, and it'd be sweet to see him in St.
00:53:39
Leo Ernewein
Louis. And those two back would be a huge... I think, don't know, do you think Ottawa would have to include like a pick or something like that in there? Because that's a lot going back for Brady Kachuk.
00:53:48
Lando
Maybe yeah.
00:53:50
Leo Ernewein
He's a good player.
00:53:52
Lando
Yeah.
00:53:52
Leo Ernewein
That was Robert Thomas and Jordan Kyrus, and that's two good players. That's like two elite players for one elite-er player. don't know if that makes up the difference. I don't know if he's a leader. Not a real word. I know that. Yeah.
00:54:05
Leo Ernewein
You got what I'm trying to say, right? Like one player that's slightly above caliber than them, but in my opinion, at least.
00:54:07
Lando
I do.
00:54:23
Lando
Oh, gosh. Who's that? Oh, you could throw maybe from Ottawa. That's who I was thinking of. Sorry. With Brady Kachuk.
00:54:32
Lando
Throw in like a Drake Bathurtson or somebody going the other way.
00:54:37
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, potentially. I also see here Dallas Stars potentially linked to Kachuk. Jason Robertson going the other way. I think there's no way that happens, especially the position that the Stars are in right now.
00:54:46
Lando
There is no way that's happening.
00:54:50
Lando
Yeah, no.
00:54:52
Leo Ernewein
But I'm looking up, trying to see other rumors here, and I'm like, you guys are just baiting me with that one, with that Stars one.
00:54:58
Lando
Yeah.
00:54:59
Leo Ernewein
I don't think that'll happen at all. Let's see if I can get any others. No, I was just talking about how Matthews and Kachuk could be forced out of Canada. Forced out of Canada is a strong, I don't know, but both those teams could be selling, right?
00:55:16
Leo Ernewein
We could talk about another team that isn't probably selling for the first time in almost, you know, 15 years. They could also make the playoffs for the first time since then. Rumors that Robert Thomas could be moved, St. Louis Blues.
00:55:28
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, meant the Buffalo Sabres could also make the playoffs for the first time. in 15 years. And of course, St. Louis Blues possibly moving the team. It's not the team itself, but a bunch of players selling a fire sale in St.
00:55:41
Leo Ernewein
Louis, right?
00:55:41
Lando
I don't know.
00:55:42
Leo Ernewein
New York Rangers probably fire selling as well. Florida Panthers might be running out of gas. Minnesota Wild, we've seen them loading up a little bit with Quinn Hughes and stuff. And of course, you mentioned the Andrew Mungu-Ponty signing.
00:55:55
Leo Ernewein
And then Nashville Predators, they signed Stamkos and Marcheseau. Now there's rumors of Ryan O'Reilly could be on the move as well. What do you think about anybody else in the hunt there?
00:56:08
Lando
Well, I think Nashville, you know, as far as Nashville goes, I mean, they're in the hunt. Do you really want trade any of those guys? The only guy that I could see maybe Nashville getting rid of or not necessarily saying getting rid of, but trading is Jonathan Marshall. So.
00:56:30
Lando
He's had a, he hasn't, ever since he's left Vegas, he's never been the same. And also, he's also getting older, but he's just, he's never been the same since he's left Vegas. So I think I could see Marcia so on the move.
00:56:43
Lando
Minnesota really scares me now because, I mean, they just got McCarron from Nashville.
00:56:50
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:56:50
Leo Ernewein
Michael McCarron for a second rounder, six foot six centerman.
00:56:51
Lando
They got Magic Pawnee.
00:56:52
Lando
Yeah, they're really bulking up.
00:56:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:56:55
Lando
Yeah. As an Avalanche fan, I am just hoping Colorado keeps winning so they stay in first place so they don't have to play Dallas or Minnesota and let Dallas and Minnesota beat the crap out of each other.
00:57:08
Leo Ernewein
And then you get to play them when they're nice and healthy and rested up.
00:57:11
Lando
Correct.
00:57:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:57:12
Lando
Yeah. Real quick, Leo, what do you think about your Toronto Maple Leafs? You haven't said anything about the Leafs.
00:57:19
Leo Ernewein
Oh, didn't I? I thought I did.
00:57:21
Lando
No, you didn't.
00:57:21
Lando
I don't believe you did.
00:57:22
Leo Ernewein
well, yeah, I mean, the fire sales inevitable.
00:57:26
Leo Ernewein
It's, it's, it's a, you know, it's unfortunate, uh, to see the team where they're at right now, especially when they had a rebuild period and this rebuild got as far as the second round of the playoffs.
00:57:40
Leo Ernewein
Did they make the third round? I don't think so.
00:57:42
Lando
No.
00:57:43
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. So kind of a bust in my opinion, but,
00:57:47
Lando
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
00:57:49
Leo Ernewein
it's, it is what it is.
00:57:51
Leo Ernewein
It's, it's, I'm, I'm numb to it by now, you know?
00:57:56
Lando
Yeah, I know what you're saying.
00:57:57
Lando
Now that I think about it, yeah, you did. You did mention. You did talk about Brian and Carlo and all that. But sorry.
00:58:03
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. The Carlo trade ergs me too, specifically.
00:58:04
Lando
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You did. The other thing.
00:58:08
Leo Ernewein
And then, sorry, go ahead.
00:58:10
Lando
The other thing I was going ask you, what did you think about Vancouver?
00:58:15
Leo Ernewein
Oh, the Canucks, man. I don't necessarily think they traded the wrong guy because I would have traded Miller as well just based off of... I don't know. You got to go with the younger guy that you drafted even if you don't agree with Miller or you do agree with Miller on what he's saying. Hey, he's got to try harder. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:58:33
Leo Ernewein
Heck, I might have tried to trade them both. You know? Just clean house, boys.
00:58:36
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:58:37
Leo Ernewein
Get me some new talent and... in here and some new prospects and new projects and stuff that I can work on. It just cleats slate, dust my hands.
00:58:49
Leo Ernewein
I don't know. Canucks, if they get McKenna, it'll be interesting. They'll probably get either McKenna or Stenberg, and I really like Stenberg. Although, I think both them play on wings, don't they?
00:59:02
Leo Ernewein
I don't know if there's a top centerman in this class this year, at least a top five centerman.
00:59:05
Lando
I don't believe there is, no.
00:59:08
Leo Ernewein
That's something the Flames really need, and And I think the Leafs could just use a winger as well. But they don't have a first-round pick. Thanks, Brad, for living. But, yeah, you know, it's not my favorite GM either.
00:59:23
Leo Ernewein
Back to his Flames days either. didn't think he was very good there. But I shouldn't judge because I'm making a podcast now. He's got the job, so there must have been something right to get there, so I can't hate too much.
00:59:34
Lando
Exactly.
00:59:36
Leo Ernewein
We'll jump over to the Dallas Stars here, because you mentioned They had the longest winning streak franchise history, 11 straight wins. Colorado Avalanche, they cooled off a little bit when they needed to, or when they kind of Didn't really need to.
00:59:48
Leo Ernewein
don't know how to, don't know what you're trying to say there with that one, but we'll go with it. The Minnesota Wild also geared up looking pretty dangerous.
00:59:54
Leo Ernewein
Are those three teams still the best teams heading into the deadline for you?
00:59:59
Lando
Yes, they are.
01:00:00
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:00:00
Lando
I believe they are. Yeah, they are the best team, the best three teams in NHL. And Dallas is doing this without Tyler Sagan, who's been done for the season.
01:00:10
Lando
He had ACL surgery. So that sucks. That's too bad. He just can't stay healthy. His eight years that he's played there, he's been hurt every single year, which is mind-boggling.
01:00:22
Lando
Yeah.
01:00:23
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:00:24
Lando
But, you know, Dallas is missing Mikko Rantanen, who got hurt over the Olympics. So he'll be back in a few weeks here, I think. But, I mean, Dallas is just, they've got goaltending, they've got they've got forward depth, they're big.
01:00:41
Lando
It wouldn't surprise me to see them try to, you know, bulk up a little bit of their forward depth and their defensive depth to try to make a push. So, I mean, this central division is a hard, hard division to come out of.
01:00:55
Lando
And anybody who comes out on top is going to pretty banged up. So, as far as Colorado goes, what I meant by Colorado, they stormed out of the gate right up until Christmas. And then just within, you know, just before the...
01:01:12
Lando
The Olympic break, they kind of cooled off a little bit. They kind of came back down to earth, but they're winning enough games still to keep ahead of Minnesota and Dallas. So that's a good thing. And they added defensive depth. They traded Gerrard away finally.
01:01:29
Lando
I don't think Colorado is quite done. I think they're going to try to find another centerman to help out. So, yeah, these three teams, it's going to be fun to see who's going to take the division, who's going to finish second, who's going to finish third, and who's going to come out of those three teams in the central division.
01:01:48
Lando
It'll be very interesting.
01:01:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that will. Yeah. Cause one of them's probably Stanley Cup final bound. We're thinking,
01:01:55
Lando
Oh, yeah. you know what's shocking about
NHL Playoff Format Critique
01:01:58
Lando
Minnesota? Sorry to cut you off there, Leo. What's funny about these three teams, and we talked about this a couple podcasts ago too, these three teams, if it was the old playoff format, not the one that we're in right now, but the old one, none of these three teams would face each other until the conference final.
01:02:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:02:19
Lando
Think about that, right?
01:02:20
Leo Ernewein
Well, if they won.
01:02:20
Lando
I mean, They wouldn't run into each other until the Western Conference final.
01:02:25
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, their pass wouldn't cross if they won all the way until the conference final.
01:02:27
Lando
No. No.
01:02:30
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, does kind of, I feel like the new system rewards a bit more mediocrity and I don't like that.
01:02:35
Lando
I don't like that either.
01:02:35
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:02:35
Lando
Yeah.
01:02:37
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, the LA Kings, they aren't necessarily about mediocrity. They fired their head coach, Jim Hiller, over the weekend, even after beating the Flames. I think it was, what was it, 3-2? No, they shut him out 2-0.
01:02:49
Leo Ernewein
And DJ Smith, interim head coach, steps in. He used to be behind the bench in Ottawa. you think it was a panic move, or is this coaching actually the issue out there in LA? Yeah.
01:03:00
Lando
I think it was a coaching issue. was surprised that they waited this long to fire him. And here's why I say that.
01:03:10
Lando
Last year, I think, was the beginning of the demise of Jim Hiller. And the reason why I say that because Los Angeles had the Edmonton Oilers on the ropes.
01:03:22
Lando
They were up to nothing. They were up, I think it was 3-1 or something. It was still a close game in game three up in Edmonton.
01:03:31
Lando
And Jim Hiller decided to challenge. And I can't remember if this was an offside challenge or a goaltender interference challenge. Or a misplaced stoppage challenge. anyways, he lost his challenge.
01:03:45
Lando
And you could just see the script completely flip. Edmonton ended up winning that game in overtime. And it completely changed the series. And Edmonton ended up winning four straight to beat the LA Kings.
01:03:59
Lando
And so fast forward to this year, started off horrible again. And so they couldn't score.
01:04:09
Lando
Their home record has been horrendous. They've been a pretty good road team. Like I said, they can't score. Jim Hiller has not used Drew Dowdy well at all. He still has game. He may be 35 to 36 years old, he's one of your best defensemen. And, yes, I get that the fact that you want to try to – the reins off to Brent Clark at some point, but he's not ready to take those, take that big step. So I just, Jim Hillard, just Jim Hillard, just, I don't think was the fit for the Kings. I think there was rumors. A lot of people were saying on X that he, uh,
01:04:47
Lando
was one of the worst hires after Todd McClellan got let go, that this was one of the worst hires in the NHL based on his coaching record and everything, that he will never, ever be able to lead a veteran group like this. And it showed that even though the last three years he made the playoffs,
01:05:07
Lando
He couldn't get past Edmonton. And now this year, with Kopitar's last season, with his being the last season, they're on the verge of missing the playoffs unless they can turn things around. So I think Ken Holland did the organization a favor. I think this was mercy. This was a mercy poll and try to turn the tides around because there are couple of points out of a wild card spot. So that's just my take on the LA Kings. His Jim Hiller's demise started last year and it carried over to this year. Yeah.
01:05:38
Leo Ernewein
That's totally fair. Sounds like the room just kind of wasn't really responding anymore, eh?
01:05:45
Lando
Yeah.
01:05:47
Leo Ernewein
Okay, well, before we wrap up, Lando, you kind of had a reffing basketball story that you kind of wanted to jump into here.
01:05:53
Lando
Yeah, one of the basketball stories that this happened last night, which would be Monday night, March 2nd.
01:06:01
Lando
For all of you who know me, I ref basketball. I'm pretty decent at it. And one of the things that really bothers me as with coaches, especially in basketball, is the fact that when you're coaching JV boys or girls, or you're coaching senior boys or girls, you should have...
01:06:27
Lando
a pretty decent knowledge about the rules. I mean, I'll be honest with you. I'm still learning rules as I go along as I ref, but I'm, I'm starting to remember quite a few of them.
01:06:38
Lando
And, but for basketball coaches,
01:06:44
Lando
they tend to start yelling at you about calls and situations when, They have no idea what they're talking about. So that's where my story happens last night. So was the high guy going to the basket, and I was running with the player with the ball.
01:07:04
Lando
And our job as the official is to always watch the defensive player first before you watch the ball carrier first. And I was watching the ball carrier or the defensive player the whole way down the court. So the guy stops.
01:07:19
Lando
He's established himself. Then he starts moving backwards laterally. So the ball player decides I'm still going to run through him. So he runs through him with his shoulder, knocks him down.
01:07:32
Lando
I blow the whistle. And as I blow the whistle, the basket goes in. So I blow the whistle again. still have my fist up in my hand because that's 10 seconds. That tells everybody that I have a foul. And then I do the fist pump forward, which is an offensive charge. call the number, number 7-0.
01:07:51
Lando
Black offensive charge with the shoulder. So I go all the way down to the other end to get into my post. And so this coach is arguing with my partner, arguing with my partner. And I just remember as I was going down the court, forgot to add this. that my partner said that was an excellent call right across the court. And so the coach was arguing with my partner about my call. And my partner says to the coach, I'm not arguing with you.
Basketball Refereeing Controversy
01:08:19
Lando
I saw it. I saw exactly what he saw. And I was the bad guy. And he made the right call. I agree with the call. I'd make the call. That's enough is enough. So after the game...
01:08:31
Lando
We go up to him and we talk to him about call He, we tell him, you know, it doesn't matter you've established yourself.
01:08:40
Lando
It doesn't matter if he's moving laterally, standing still, or moving backwards. He's committed himself, and he's standing still. He's got his established as a defensive player. He's got that lane. Well, the coach says, well, he didn't have himself established. We're like, yes, he did. And I told the coach, I said, after the game politely, I said,
01:09:01
Lando
I've called this rule or this particular play at least 30 times in my lifetime as a call. And my partner, who has been reffing way longer than I have, he's probably called this as many times, more times than he could probably count.
01:09:20
Lando
That's how the call, that's the call. So he continues to argue, he continues to argue. And I said, okay, here's what I'm gonna, this is what I said to him. So here's what I'm gonna ask you to do.
01:09:31
Lando
I know the athletic director for the school. I'm going email her in the next couple of days. You as a coach have some homework to do. You need to go on to the FIBA or the Canada Basketball website, look up the rule, what is considered an offensive charge.
01:09:51
Lando
And you need to read the rule book. And I'm going to go tell the, I'm going to email the athletic director that this is what's going, this is what this coach is going to do.
01:10:01
Lando
And I told the coach at that point too, I know it's in there because I've read it and my partner's read it. So when you read it, you are going to owe us an apology, number one.
01:10:13
Lando
And you're also going to owe us a beer because my partner, I know we're right.
01:10:19
Lando
So I know we're right. Well, he said, well, I put.
01:10:21
Leo Ernewein
You can't say they're going to owe you a that's not professional, bud.
01:10:27
Lando
That's what I said to him last night. So. So.
01:10:31
Leo Ernewein
You're a referee. You can't be like, you owe me an apology and a beer.
01:10:34
Lando
Hey, we have.
01:10:37
Leo Ernewein
No. I get where you're coming from, though.
01:10:39
Lando
So I do.
01:10:40
Leo Ernewein
It's your rule.
01:10:41
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
01:10:42
Leo Ernewein
It's your call.
01:10:44
Lando
Yeah.
01:10:44
Leo Ernewein
And charging tends to be one that people get the most upset about, which is unfortunate. It's like, hey, if I ever got called for charging, it was because I was going too aggressive.
01:10:55
Leo Ernewein
And it happened, you know. They tell him, oh, the kid just puts his head down and goes right to the basket. Just stand there in front, fall over. They did that, and they got called charging. I realize next time, pump fake or go around.
01:11:08
Leo Ernewein
And then, you know, you don't get called for charging as much. But, yeah, I don't know, man. It's... It's a tough game, right?
01:11:17
Lando
It is.
01:11:18
Leo Ernewein
Basketball is some of the hardest sports to ref because it's so subjective. You could honestly call a carry on every play or a travel on every other play.
01:11:23
Lando
Yeah.
01:11:26
Lando
You could travel.
01:11:28
Leo Ernewein
Same way you could call a hold on football on every other play too, right? So it's so tough.
01:11:32
Lando
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
01:11:35
Leo Ernewein
And in hockey, you could probably call interference on a lot of things too, right? So...
01:11:39
Lando
Yeah, for sure.
Personal Updates & Episode Conclusion
01:11:41
Leo Ernewein
But you also had an update on your hearing, but I wanted to hear it. floor is yours.
01:11:45
Lando
Yeah, so what's happening, I haven't gone for my hearing test yet. So at the end of March, I'm supposed go for another hearing test. But one of the things that I've noticed in the last couple, I would say the last week and a half,
01:11:58
Lando
that I've noticed that when I've been, you know, at work or just anywhere in a noisy area that I've noticed that my hearing is starting to slowly, slowly starting to come back. Like an example, like today I was working And in months past, I had had such trouble hearing people having conversations amongst each other.
01:12:30
Lando
my titnus is still there gets very excuse me it gets very loud at times but uh i i'm but i i think i think it's starting to slowly starting to come back and uh yeah i i think that's an important update to tell everybody because i know everybody is worried about you know how much people can hear and stuff like that so
01:12:35
Leo Ernewein
Yes, it is.
01:12:53
Lando
Yeah, so we'll see what the hearing test will come up with in about 20 days' time here. So hopefully this is a good sign that my hearing starting to come back after one year of all this nonsense, if you want to call it.
01:13:07
Leo Ernewein
Nice, man. Well, that's good to hear. We'll talk, yeah, I guess that's it for episode 15 here. We'll talk more about everything that happened at the NHL trade deadline coming up this Friday here. So you'll hear more about it next week from us. Thanks for taking the time to listen as well. And please leave a like and a comment. Give us some stars and a rating if you can.
01:13:28
Leo Ernewein
really helps the show grow and tell your family and friends about us too if you want. Lando, it's your time to shine with the shout out here, bud. Take it away, my man.
01:13:36
Lando
All right, so I'll be trying to be really quick here because I took with the whole story thing. So I want to do a shout out to my buddy Liam. I used to work with him back in...
01:13:49
Lando
back in the IGA days a couple months ago, if not last year. And yeah, he listens to our podcast all the time. He just texted me within the last couple days and he just says, I love your podcast. I've listened to almost every episode. So I want to make a nice little shout out to Liam Lynch, who lives out in Vancouver. So shout out to him. Thanks, man, for listening.
01:14:14
Leo Ernewein
Awesome. Shout out Liam Lynch. Thanks for listening again. And as, as always, it's been a pleasure landing and thank you all for tuning in once more. It's a episode 15, Leo Orlando show. Pleasure to have you.
01:14:26
Lando
Thanks for listening, everybody. And once again, Leo, it's a pleasure. All mine.
01:14:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:14:37
Leo Ernewein
Nice.