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Episode 12: Super Bowl 60 Leads a Chaotic Week in Sports
29 Plays3 months ago
Leo and Lando break down Super Bowl 60, the matchup between Seattle and New England. Then it’s over to Milan, where the Olympics are underway with schedule changes, delays, and Canada opening their women’s hockey tournament with a strong win.
The NHL brings plenty to get into as well: Artemi Panarin heads to LA, Tampa and Boston deliver an outdoor showcase, and the episode closes with the latest on top prospect Gavin McKenna.
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Transcript
Introduction and Episode Highlights
00:00:18
Leo Ernewein
Welcome back the Leo and Lando show. I'm Leo Erdewine.
00:00:22
Lando
I'm Landon Lando Semenok.
00:00:26
Leo Ernewein
And we've got episode 12 for you today. We're looking ahead to Super Bowl 60, sorting through the chaos at the Olympics in Milano-Cortina. And we're breaking down a busy week in the NHL, or was a busy week in the NHL before the Olympic break, of course, including a major trade, an outdoor showcase in Tampa, and the latest developments, including top prospect Gavin McKenna.
00:00:46
Leo Ernewein
But first off, Landon, how are you, man-man?
Landon's Refereeing Adventures
00:00:49
Lando
I am doing well. Today was very busy day. had to ref basketball and I did two very, very high and intense basketball games.
00:01:01
Lando
Both games ended four or five points spread between both of them. And there was a lot of fouls to call. It was insane. It was very tiring. I was tired after the game.
00:01:16
Lando
I was a little sore, but now that I'm home and I did a couple of chores and just kind of relaxed a little bit, I'm actually doing very well. And I'll be real quick here, Leo, sorry to making this go long, but one of the things that I've, it's amazing how coaches are more worried about what the referees are calling than actually coaching their players and their players were fouling out all the time and they weren't, weren't getting the, the, the gist of what my dad and I were calling in the basketball. So it was, it was a little frustrating on, our end, but, uh, we got through it today. So, but how are you, man? You doing well?
00:01:56
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I'm good, thanks. And you don't have to apologize, man. It's our podcast. You don't have to apologize for talking at all, ever.
00:02:00
Lando
It is.
00:02:03
Leo Ernewein
Right? So, but I was, go ahead.
00:02:05
Lando
one more quick, one more quick thing. Cause I,
Hearing Issues and Advice
00:02:07
Lando
yeah, one more quick thing.
00:02:08
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:02:09
Lando
I know a lot of people probably have been a little interested with my hearing, what's been going on with that. So I thought I will put this out on our podcast about what's going on with my hearing. Like I told Leo beforehand, he already knows what's coming. So I already told him beforehand, ladies and gentlemen. Dr. Jason Lepojarvii, what's going on is I went to the doctor this past week my family doctor and I went in there and shoulder my my sheet of my audio audio all just that I went to and she said that she thinks why i'm having hearing loss is because a virus that is inside my.
00:02:49
Lando
My brain or my ears or whatever that is attacked it that that's why I'm having such problems hearing and noisy places like where I work, sometimes at a basketball game, so or a hockey game. So she thinks that that's what's going on. She thinks that's why keeps on deteriorating. So what she suggested to me is to make sure that I protect myself. I'm wearing earplugs when I wrap basketball or I'm in a noisy place.
00:03:15
Lando
And she said, whenever I go back to the oligologist, that's a bit of a tongue twister, that we'll figure out a backup plan or a battle plan for my hearing after I find out at the end of March. So I'm a lot more positive. She seemed very positive about this because she's had a number of patients that have come to her and talked about hearing loss after she got sick or anybody got sick. Sorry.
00:03:48
Lando
And so she's very, very confident that that's what I have. And she's told me this a number of times that I've seen her over the last year. So right now, that's what's going on with my hearing. So we'll find out in March what's going on and see if things are improving or not. So that's where I'm at. So I appreciate the thoughts and prayers, everybody, and their text messages and all that about what's been going on. So not the world's worst thing, let me tell you.
00:04:15
Leo Ernewein
Well, that's technically better news, right? Because the virus is technically treatable and all that sort stuff. You're totally right about the audiologist stuff.
00:04:23
Lando
Yeah.
00:04:25
Leo Ernewein
I had an ad read at work, think it was yesterday. was it this morning? It might have been this morning. And no, it was yesterday or this morning. And I just didn't pre-read it like I should have, like I normally do.
00:04:39
Leo Ernewein
And then it was a new one, of course, and it was, you know, had audiologists in it. And I think I stumbled on it. It's just kind of miffed at myself.
00:04:48
Leo Ernewein
But it's funny that you mentioned that. But I was going to ask you when you were you were talking about reffing with your dad, is, you know, when you do so many games, do teams just end up kind of being a blur to you?
00:05:00
Leo Ernewein
Or do you remember who faces off against who?
00:05:03
Lando
I do kind remember who faces off against who. Yeah.
00:05:07
Leo Ernewein
You do it. Okay. And then that one got pretty chippy.
00:05:08
Lando
Yeah.
00:05:10
Leo Ernewein
So you were talking a little bit about how the coaches kind of are more worried about the calls to the refs and showing reaction to that.
00:05:10
Lando
It did.
00:05:17
Leo Ernewein
And maybe, maybe they're trying to think they're sticking up to their players or whatever, but, when we played basketball, the coaches would, would be like, Oh, okay.
00:05:22
Lando
It's the wrong.
00:05:27
Leo Ernewein
This ref calls more fouls or this ref doesn't call fouls. This ref keeps his whistle in his mouth.
00:05:32
Lando
Yeah.
00:05:34
Leo Ernewein
You know, they make adjustments in their game plan you probably just didn't, you're saying you didn't see that as much. Yeah, that's fair.
00:05:39
Lando
No, no. And you know what? Some of it is because they never see us. But you know what? Good coaches will always adapt. And these coaches were not good coaches, in my opinion. I don't I didn't think it was so.
00:05:51
Leo Ernewein
You ever any interest in coaching one day, man?
00:05:55
Lando
I actually did coach basketball, man.
00:05:59
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:05:59
Lando
And for everybody who doesn't know that I did coach basketball, I did a junior high grade eight, nine boys team. They were kind of the secondary team. And I did coach basketball a little bit. And we actually, we had a shaky start, but I was very new, but I was watching a lot of plays and, you know, how to coach kids and things like that. So, yeah, we got into a good place at the end of the year, and they played much better. got into a couple tournaments. So, yeah, it was good. You know, I don't think – I think I'm a better referee than I am as a coach, but – If I ever have kids someday or, know, if my brother has kids and needs coach, if I'm anywhere near the area, I thought about coaching, maybe doing something like that. But for right now, I'm sticking to a referee.
00:06:55
Leo Ernewein
That's cool, man. Well, I mean, as far as experience goes, you've kind of, you know, if you want to talk to a man who's done everything in the sport, right, is coach, ref, played, all that sort of stuff.
00:07:03
Lando
Yeah.
00:07:05
Leo Ernewein
So that's cool. That's something I didn't know about that. I didn't know that you coach. That's pretty sweet, man.
00:07:09
Lando
Yeah, I did coach.
00:07:10
Leo Ernewein
I'd like to get into it one day.
00:07:10
Lando
Yep.
00:07:12
Leo Ernewein
But, yeah, things have been good. Let's jump into segment number one here, into segment number uno.
Super Bowl 60 Preview and Analysis
00:07:19
Leo Ernewein
We start with probably the biggest story the weekend, Super Bowl 60 tomorrow at Levi's Stadium.
00:07:24
Leo Ernewein
Seattle Seahawks versus the New England Patriots, and it's Mike versus Mike as well. Mike Rabel on the Patriots' sideline there, and Mike McDonald on Seattle's respective sideline. Two defensive head coaches who've built their toughest, who've built one of the toughest units in football, or two of the toughest units in football, should say, respectively. Seattle comes in with a defense that's Been the identity of their season and their quarterback, Sam Darnold, has completely rewritten his career from being labeled a bust to leading the Seahawks to the NFC title.
00:07:56
Leo Ernewein
And across the field, the Patriots are back on the big stage under the first-year head coach, Mike Vrabel, under center as quarterback Drake May. And for a second-year quarterback, he delivered one of the best seasons in the league, finished second in MVP voting the other night and giving New England a real identity on offense.
00:08:14
Leo Ernewein
For Seattle, the game carries something extra. It's not just a chance to finish a turnaround under Mike McDonald, but it's kind of a chance as well to finally put 2015 to bed the moment. It's hung over the franchise ever since the decision to throw at the goal line instead of handing it to a pro bowl running back, Marshawn Lynch for new England, though, a little bit of a different story. They were expected to reach. They weren't expected to reach this point so quickly.
00:08:39
Leo Ernewein
And just getting here signals that the rebuild is probably over. And it went on Sunday would go more than just cap that turnaround. It would put a stamp on their new era and announced that they're back ahead of schedule.
00:08:50
Leo Ernewein
Landon, what, what matchups on the field matter to you most there, man?
00:08:55
Lando
I think it'd be very interesting to see what the quarterback matchup happens and how... Will Sam Donald continue his offensive ways? Because, I mean, in all honesty, I mean, it's not just him. I mean, it's the offensive play calling. But he's been an absolute magician over the playoffs this year, disputing the ball and all that stuff. So I'm very interested seeing how Donald's going to do. And I'm also interested in seeing how Drake may...
00:09:27
Lando
is going to do in the spotlight because the last two games against Houston and against the Denver Broncos, he didn't show very well. He fumbled the ball a lot. He kind of turned the ball over. He didn't move the offense very well. New England's defense had to keep him in. So I'm very intrigued to see how Drake May and Sam Darnold go head-to-head against each other.
00:09:52
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, and for me, I mean, you can't argue with that, right? Like, Sam Durnall was super efficient all year. And Drake May, he's really progressed.
00:10:03
Leo Ernewein
And had a great season. I still think he might hold onto the ball little bit too long in the pocket. But, you know, what second-year quarterback, I guess, wouldn't. So I was probably a little bit harsh on the guy in a previous episode.
00:10:16
Leo Ernewein
So I do like the wide receiver matchups, too. Like Jackson Smith and Jigba versus the defensive backs in New England, like Christian Gonzalez.
00:10:20
Lando
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:10:26
Leo Ernewein
And then, you know, you got Kayshawn Booty out on New England there playing wide receiver and he'll be going up against, you know, Devon Witherspoon and another really solid defensive back and, and,
00:10:39
Leo Ernewein
You know, but I think the X factor has got to be the Seattle's pressure that they can put on that quarterback position. So, you know, they had 30 quarterback hurries in the NFC title game, the highest total of the season so far for them, and the most they've had under Mike McDonald since he's been there.
00:10:55
Leo Ernewein
And it wasn't just, you know, one guy. They had six guys contribute to that, including like Draymond Jones, Aaron Reed, Leonard Williams. and even DeFont Weatherspoon out on the cornerback from the slot position.
00:11:06
Leo Ernewein
So if they bring that same wave at me, I think his timing and his reads get a lot tougher. So that, for me, will be the X factor.
00:11:13
Lando
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
00:11:27
Leo Ernewein
I think he's playing on the tackle position, actually, but he should be an interior lineman. I could be wrong, but he was maybe drafted as a tackle. I haven't watched a lot of Patriots games, but he's good. I like his future.
00:11:39
Leo Ernewein
We'll see how he responds to those that elite front seven or front six that Seattle can bring. And then, yeah, my second question for you here, Landon, is if Seattle wins, does that kind of make up for that kind of 2015 era there?
00:11:57
Lando
Well, I think it will, but I'm also going joke because everybody also knows that I'm a Patriots fan. And I thought that back then, 11 years ago, I thought that was funny.
00:12:08
Lando
I mean, you got to look back at the 2015. I mean, New England was down 10 points and they came back and went up by four. And I still can't believe to this day, and this was 11 years ago, I still can't believe they threw the ball. Right. have Barshawn Lynch as your best running back and you throw the football. Like, like that was, I think that was the beginning of what I would call the Pete Carroll slide.
00:12:35
Lando
If you want to call it that. Yeah.
00:12:37
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that's a great phrase. I like that.
00:12:39
Lando
And so like, I, I just, I, I, like I said at the top, I thought it was hilarious. But anyways, To your question, I think it definitely will make it make up for it for sure.
00:12:53
Lando
They are definitely heavily favored, aren't they? Like they are really heavily favored. But I've had so many people come up to me and just absolutely chirp me like crazy the last little bit or the last couple of days.
00:13:06
Lando
And you're one of them, Leo. I have to say, you've been one of them.
00:13:09
Leo Ernewein
sure I am. That's hilarious.
00:13:12
Lando
So I am hoping that New England wins tomorrow by a huge margin and it can shut everybody up. But anyways, to answer your question, I know I'm repeating myself.
00:13:24
Lando
If Seattle does win, I think that will be forgotten for sure.
00:13:30
Leo Ernewein
So you're thinking New England's going to win, though?
00:13:33
Lando
I still think they will. Yeah, I think they've been on a roll. They've been on a big roll. But we'll see. mean, the Super Bowl is a totally different game compared to the other playoff games.
00:13:45
Leo Ernewein
That's true.
00:13:50
Leo Ernewein
I just think... Oh, sorry, go ahead.
00:13:53
Lando
The refs call it differently in the Super Bowl than they do in any other point of the season.
00:13:57
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:13:59
Lando
So, yeah. Sorry to cut you off.
00:14:02
Leo Ernewein
No, you're good. I was going to say, just think that the Patriots, they haven't really faced a team like the Seahawks, a team that's built well on both sides.
00:14:13
Leo Ernewein
I just think the Seahawks pieces outmatch the Patriots pieces in this game. I have them winning even, I don't know, think it's going to be a close game, but I have them winning by maybe like 11, 14, something like that.
00:14:25
Lando
Yeah.
00:14:40
Leo Ernewein
You probably remember where you were when you saw that interception by, now I'm stumping on the guys named Malcolm Butler, I believe it was.
00:14:42
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:14:46
Lando
Yes, it was.
00:14:48
Leo Ernewein
And then he got sat like a Super Bowl or two later when the Patriots made it. And we still don't never found out the reason why Bill Belichick like benched him for the Super Bowl. He must have done something horrible.
00:14:58
Lando
Yeah, I don't know either.
00:15:00
Leo Ernewein
But anyways, it doesn't erase.
00:15:03
Leo Ernewein
For me, if they if Seattle wins, it doesn't erase it. That play still part of NFL history. But, you know, it'll finally give Seattle and the Seahawks a new defining moment. You win a Super Bowl with the number one scoring defensive back or the number one scoring defense, sorry, and a quarterback in Sam Darnold who kind of rebuilt his career, right?
00:15:20
Lando
Yes, he did.
00:15:21
Leo Ernewein
And that becomes the story instead of the goal line throw, at least, you know, that. And they absolutely pumped your Broncos the year before, I think 2014, right?
00:15:31
Leo Ernewein
What was that score in the Super Bowl?
00:15:33
Lando
Yeah, they thumped him.
00:15:35
Leo Ernewein
Was it 2012?
00:15:35
Lando
It was like 2012. Yeah,
00:15:37
Leo Ernewein
I thought they made back-to-back Super Bowls.
00:15:40
Lando
No, I don't believe they did. mean, look that up. I don't believe they did. think there was a bit of a gap. But. But I do remember their Denver Broncos.
00:15:47
Leo Ernewein
No, you're totally right. No, I had 2024.
00:15:49
Lando
Oh, see?
00:15:49
Leo Ernewein
Oops. 2014. No, hold on. No, it was 2014.
00:15:50
Lando
Yeah. So, yeah, they – yeah, there was a little bit of a gap.
00:15:52
Leo Ernewein
I accidentally, yeah, accidentally Googled 2024.
00:15:55
Lando
So, but I do – oh, it was 2014.
00:15:57
Leo Ernewein
It was 2014. Sorry. No.
00:16:00
Lando
Okay.
00:16:01
Lando
Oh.
00:16:02
Lando
So, there was not a gap. Boy, oh, boy. Well, I mean, in all fairness, – That was 10, 11 years ago. Memory's a little foggy, but I actually should have known that. But anyways...
00:16:16
Lando
Yes, remember the score. I remember how bad Denver was. Oh, they were horrendous. And Seattle just thumped them, actually. But I do remember that Super Bowl because I actually had to close the store back then when it was the Safeway days. And I totally missed the Super Bowl that Sunday. But I'm glad I didn't watch it because Denver just stunk. So anyways, yes.
Super Bowl Entertainment and Bets
00:16:43
Leo Ernewein
That's hilarious because I was really excited for that Super Bowl because I think Denver had the number one offense under Peyton Manning. They had wide out to Marius Thomas.
00:16:50
Lando
Yeah.
00:16:51
Leo Ernewein
Rest in peace. think they had Emmanuel Sanders. You know, they just weapons all over the place. They had like three Pro Bowl wide receivers. I forget the fourth, third, third one.
00:16:59
Lando
They did.
00:17:01
Leo Ernewein
But, And then, you know, Seattle's defense with the Legion of Boom, you Cam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, of course, Earl Thomas at the free safety position.
00:17:13
Leo Ernewein
And then the guy that went to New Orleans that ended up being just there for money, Brandon Browner. Man, disappointed. Because I was like, yeah, we signed someone or the Saints signed someone from the Legion of Boom. And then I was like, he's kind of like not the greatest one and he's older.
00:17:31
Leo Ernewein
I think he played in the CFL, I'm pretty sure.
00:17:32
Lando
Yes, he did. was just going to say that.
00:17:33
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, he did.
00:17:34
Lando
Yes. Yeah.
00:17:35
Leo Ernewein
Shout out Landon for the knowledge.
00:17:35
Lando
He played for the Calgary Stampeders.
00:17:38
Leo Ernewein
That's awesome.
00:17:38
Lando
Yeah.
00:17:40
Leo Ernewein
Good. That's tight. That's cool. Yeah. But definitely remember where I was for that. But we'll jump over here to some Super Bowl performers.
00:17:50
Leo Ernewein
You know, a quick rundown of the performance here, least some of them. Green Day opening ceremony, Charlie Puth, National Anthem, and Bad Bunny, of course, halftime show. Landon, are you watching the halftime show?
00:18:01
Lando
Yeah, I will. I will. I mean, I'm intrigued to see what Bad Bunny is all about. I have no idea. Like I said, the last episode, I've never heard them at all. I, and it's not my type of music, but I do appreciate somebody who has almost 84 million followers.
00:18:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that's cool. I mean, like, he doesn't really do small, at least as far as what I've seen. I've heard, like, a tad of his music. I don't understand it at all because don't speak Spanish. But I've seen it in, like, memes.
00:18:29
Leo Ernewein
You know, there's that one where, like, the car is driving by. pretty sure that's his music. It's, like, the car driving by and somebody's supposed to be doing something crazy while they're in the car. And you're supposed to... It's, like, a point of view of, like, you just witnessing somebody doing something nuts in the car. I don't know.
00:18:42
Leo Ernewein
I think that's what it's supposed to be. Maybe I'm just old and I... not supposed to be on the internet describing, you know, cultural memes or is there a better word for that?
00:18:53
Leo Ernewein
There better be. I just can't think of it anyways.
00:18:55
Lando
I can't believe it, yeah.
00:18:56
Leo Ernewein
I think I'll, I'll check it out as long as I don't have to nap. I mean, waking up early does tend to make me do that sometimes, but I'm pretty sure I'm off Monday of right now.
00:19:06
Leo Ernewein
So hopefully that, that lasts.
00:19:08
Lando
Me too. I'm off Monday as well.
00:19:11
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. I mean, this guy, puts on a performance. I read somewhere that he averaged $11 million on his last tour. That was a million dollars night on his last tour. So it's somewhere absurd. He's going to be at treat the halftime like it's a headline show, bet.
00:19:30
Lando
Yeah.
00:19:30
Leo Ernewein
And I think the NFL is probably going to eat that up, which will be cool. So I don't want to be the one that has to watch it somewhere else.
00:19:38
Leo Ernewein
I'm just going to take the time out of my day to Give them the numbers that they want. Womp, womp, womp, womp, womp.
00:19:44
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:19:44
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:19:45
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, we'll talk about some weird prop bets too here.
00:19:50
Leo Ernewein
Because it's the Super Bowl, weird prop bets are, of course, they're back. And some of the absolutely wild ones I found on the board this year, these come from a piece by Scott Kazmar at sharpfootballanalysis.com who put together a list of the strangest bets you can actually make for the Super Bowl.
00:20:06
Leo Ernewein
Or this Super Bowl 60, which is, we'll start with one. Which Green Day song opens the pregame show? American Indian at plus 150. At plus 300, you have Holiday. And then Bassett case for plus 550.
00:20:20
Leo Ernewein
Will Seattle attempt to pass from the opponent's one-yard line? Yes, at plus 350. minus
00:20:27
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:20:27
Leo Ernewein
will dave portnoy get removed from levi's stadium hopefully just kidding that's 650 no at minus 1400 and of course the gatorade bath color for the winning coach i think the leader right now is orange at plus 250 blue's got plus 300 yellow green plus 350 clear slash water plus 500 red plus and purple plus I remember when there was a purple one.
00:20:52
Leo Ernewein
Somebody made bank on that. And then the last one, Will Stefan Diggs proposed to Cardi B after the game. Yes, plus 5,000. no minus 10,000.
00:21:02
Leo Ernewein
Sorry, Landon.
00:21:03
Lando
Wow.
00:21:04
Leo Ernewein
Any of those stick out to you, bud?
00:21:06
Lando
Well, I think they're all hilarious, number one. Reading all of these on my piece of paper here, I think the one that's hilarious, well, not so much hilarious, but I've listened to both songs, American Idiot and Holiday,
00:21:25
Lando
And both are really good songs. Wouldn't that be funny if they open up, Green Day opens up, just based on what's been going on in the United States? American Idiot.
00:21:37
Leo Ernewein
I didn't want say it, but I'm kind glad you did.
00:21:39
Lando
Well, I'll say it for you. I'll take the flack if a couple of our American listeners message me and say, why did you say that?
00:21:48
Lando
So the next one I thought was hilarious. Well, Seattle's attempt to pass from the opponent's one-yard line, yes, plus 350, no, minus 500.
00:21:59
Lando
believe that they will never, ever do that. So I'm going to say no on that one. And then... They'll learn from their past mistakes. Trust me, everybody. And if they do it again and they blow the Super Bowl, that will be hilarious.
00:22:15
Lando
That will be absolutely hilarious.
00:22:16
Leo Ernewein
There's no way. Life would be a simulation if that's the case.
00:22:19
Lando
Yeah. It would be days...
00:22:21
Leo Ernewein
Somebody's teasing us.
00:22:22
Lando
Yeah, deja vu all over again.
00:22:25
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
00:22:26
Lando
And then think what's hilarious too, the Gatorade bath color. Everybody makes such a big deal about what the Gatorade bath color is going to be.
00:22:34
Lando
But I do believe Seattle wins, it'll be a yellow-green one. If New England wins... I don't think I think it'll be a red because they've got red in their color.
00:22:47
Lando
So in their, you know, their logo. So I think it'll be a red.
00:22:51
Leo Ernewein
No, they're going clear slash water plus 500.
00:22:54
Lando
You think so?
00:22:56
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. If I think people, the reason why people cared about it before because it used to be an easy money maker.
00:23:03
Lando
I guess.
00:23:04
Leo Ernewein
And there was probably like two colors or some, some stuff.
00:23:06
Lando
Yeah, I guess. Yeah, it makes sense.
00:23:08
Leo Ernewein
I don't know. I don't know. I didn't really do my history on that part. I'm just assuming it, you know, what happens when we assume, but,
00:23:16
Lando
It never ever works. You never assume anything.
00:23:18
Leo Ernewein
It never ever works is what we'll say because this is a PG podcast.
00:23:22
Lando
Exactly.
00:23:23
Leo Ernewein
Exactly. And, you know, Dave Portnoy is probably getting removed. I just, I hope he does. I don't know why. Actually, you know what? I hope he doesn't. I hope he just doesn't even get let in, but you know, anything that gives more headlines or anything to that guy, I probably should have just axed that whole question out of this whole thing.
00:23:41
Lando
I think it's funny.
00:23:42
Leo Ernewein
Regardless.
00:23:42
Lando
I think it's funny.
00:23:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it's funny. I just, I put it in there cause I thought it was hilarious that they actually have odds on that.
00:23:51
Leo Ernewein
There was a few more that I thought were maybe just a little bit more inappropriate, but you can look them up on that website, which is again, sharper football analysis.com. Shout out to Scott.
00:24:00
Lando
Well, good on this Scott Kazmar to actually, hope I'm saying his last name right, but good on him for doing this.
00:24:06
Lando
That's fun. Hey, that's funny.
00:24:09
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I thought was nice. think he's a writer for pro football focus, but I don't have it.
00:24:13
Lando
good for him. Yeah. No, they're really good. They're funny.
00:24:17
Leo Ernewein
I did. I tried to do some research, but again, the internet keeps lying to me half the time. So fact checking is hard.
00:24:22
Lando
Yeah, I don't trust it. Yeah, you got fact checked and don't trust anything that's out there. You have to do your research like you and always do, Yeah.
00:24:27
Leo Ernewein
No.
00:24:30
Leo Ernewein
the one yard pass bet cracks me up though like Seattle actually threw two passes from the one near lead this season so the books know exactly what they're poking at yeah
00:24:43
Leo Ernewein
it's funny alright we'll go over to a little segment here some rapid fire Super Bowl questions here what is your favorite Super Bowl Landon of all time
00:24:53
Lando
I think my favorite Super Bowl of all time probably has to be, well, I've actually
Memorable Super Bowl Moments
00:24:58
Lando
got two now that I'm thinking about it.
00:25:01
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, supposed to be rapid fire though, but name them both quick.
00:25:03
Lando
Well, okay.
00:25:04
Leo Ernewein
Name them both quick.
00:25:15
Lando
Those were two very good Super Bowls.
00:25:18
Leo Ernewein
Who played in the undefeated season one? Oh, the New England and Giants.
00:25:20
Lando
New England. Yeah. The New York giants.
00:25:24
Leo Ernewein
That was Eli Manning.
00:25:24
Lando
Yeah.
00:25:25
Leo Ernewein
The first one with the David Tyree helmet catch. Was that the first one or the second?
00:25:29
Lando
That was the first one.
00:25:29
Leo Ernewein
I can't remember.
00:25:30
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:25:30
Leo Ernewein
That was the first one. Okay. Yeah, crazy.
00:25:32
Lando
Okay. Real quick, real quick.
00:25:33
Leo Ernewein
Okay, next one. Next one. What is your favorite Super Bowl moment of all time?
00:25:36
Lando
Okay.
00:25:38
Leo Ernewein
Is there one that...
00:25:39
Lando
Oh, I think that, I think that David cut Tyree catch. That one by far was the best. There was nothing. That catch was unbelievable. It actually made my, made my, uh,
00:25:51
Lando
I grabbed my hat and I threw it on the ground. I was so mad, but it was also a very good catch.
00:25:57
Leo Ernewein
That's fair. And then, yeah, of course you mentioned the 2015 one that was the Patriots intercepting at the goal line.
00:26:00
Lando
Yeah.
00:26:03
Leo Ernewein
They threw it. They threw it. I can't believe they threw it.
00:26:06
Lando
Yeah.
00:26:06
Leo Ernewein
I don't even know if that's a real quote. I do. That's just me sitting on the couch anyways.
00:26:11
Lando
Well, but, but, but I jumped up and down on that part.
00:26:14
Lando
I couldn't believe that they won.
00:26:16
Leo Ernewein
No, I believe you. Yeah. We'll be a more rapid fire next time. Anyways. What is your favorite Superbowl food?
00:26:23
Lando
My favorite Super Bowl food is nachos.
00:26:27
Leo Ernewein
Nice. What is your favorite Super Bowl commercial?
00:26:29
Lando
Oh, man.
00:26:30
Leo Ernewein
If you can remember one.
00:26:31
Lando
I don't. The Funky Monkey, I think. I'll throw something out. I can't think of anything. That Funky Monkey one was, yeah.
00:26:37
Leo Ernewein
Okay. Have you ever put money on the Super Bowl?
00:26:41
Lando
No.
00:26:42
Leo Ernewein
No. Okay. I'm going to a real quick favorite Super Bowl Saints versus Colts. The one with the surprise on onside kick to start the second half that, you know, that was pretty gutsy. And that play kind of flipped the whole game, not to mention Eric brought Colts fan me Saints fan. Haha, Eric, you guys lost me team one.
00:27:00
Leo Ernewein
I guess they could have had two Super Bowls because I'm pretty sure they, you know, handled the Bears. I think it Rex Grossman in the Bears couple of years earlier. Anyways, next question, uh, favorite Superbowl moment got to be the Philly special in that game.
00:27:08
Lando
yeah.
00:27:13
Leo Ernewein
You know, with the, uh, over 1100 total yards, they still found, you know, room for a trick play on fourth down, like perfect chaos. Like it was, it was just crazy.
00:27:24
Leo Ernewein
Nick Foles and, uh, and then Tom Brady and them trying to, um, to,
00:27:30
Leo Ernewein
you know, throw a pass with, I don't know if it was Julian Edelman. I can't remember, but Tom Brady missed the catch and I was so happy and you weren't. Sorry, Leonard. Next one. Favorite Super Bowl food, chicken wings. If the wings are bad, the party's bad. Next one. Favorite Super Bowl commercial.
00:27:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, probably going to go with the Doritos kid slapping the guy. That one was just iconic to me.
00:27:49
Lando
I remember that one now.
00:27:50
Lando
Yeah.
00:27:51
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. And then I'm going to go, if I ever bet on the Super Bowl, I'm going to say responsibly. Sure. We're going to go with responsibly is the word.
00:28:00
Lando
Ooh. Is there a story behind that?
00:28:04
Lando
No, you want share it?
00:28:05
Leo Ernewein
No, because I'm pretty sure I only bet like something minuscule at work that never got paid.
00:28:05
Lando
Okay. Don't. No. Okay.
00:28:13
Leo Ernewein
So that's what I'm talking about.
00:28:13
Lando
Gotcha. Okay.
00:28:14
Leo Ernewein
Responsibly is like bets that we never, never carry through on.
00:28:19
Lando
Oh, too funny.
00:28:21
Leo Ernewein
Meaningless bets. I should, don't know. I'm in a football pool and that's been enough. And there's talk about increasing that to like $100. And I'm like, we'll see. Maybe.
00:28:33
Leo Ernewein
Anyways. Yeah, we'll jump over to segment number two here. The Olympics have been off to a chaotic start in Milan.
Olympics Chaos and Canada's Hockey Performance
00:28:40
Leo Ernewein
Team Finland dealing with a norovirus outbreak there. Women's hockey game against Canada pushed to February 12th.
00:28:49
Leo Ernewein
And Switzerland has been in isolation right up until today after a positive test on Friday. Even outside hockey, a mixed doubles curling match between Norway and United States had to be delayed when the lights went out.
00:29:02
Lando
Yeah,
00:29:02
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, Canada finally got on the ice and, you know, aimed to defend their gold medal challenge with the hockey tournament start here with a 4-0 win over Switzerland earlier today.
00:29:13
Leo Ernewein
Sarah Fillier and Daryl Watts each had a goal and assist, and Canada scored three times on the power play. They outshot the Swiss 50-6, Landon. That's pretty good, eh?
00:29:24
Leo Ernewein
Like, what... You know, who looks more settled coming out of all this chaos? think that's pretty... It's got to be Canada, right?
00:29:25
Lando
yeah, it is.
00:29:32
Lando
Well, I, yeah, for sure. I think Canada is definitely very settled. Yeah, absolutely.
00:29:40
Leo Ernewein
What part of Canada's game tells you most about where they're headed?
00:29:45
Lando
Well, I didn't watch their, I didn't watch the game today because I was reffing basketball, but
00:29:52
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:29:53
Lando
listening yeah listening to my mom today she said that they they started off very slow they looked like the the nerves were at got to them and you know what they haven't played for a while either so to try to get their game legs under them but she said about halfway through the second period is when they really really turned it on and they put and they pushed their game through switzerland so So that was her words, not mine.
00:30:20
Lando
But I guess, you know, if they continue to play that way, think they'll give the U.S. a good run for their money. And still, though, I still worry about Canada's goal scoring. I still worry about that. And... that they don't have enough. But I want to throw something out other than Canada.
00:30:41
Lando
Hilary Knight from the United States today, she got hurt, and she was not 100%. She fell on her knee funny, and she did not play very – she played, but she was not 100%. So something to watch out for in the coming days and weeks ahead as the push for gold in the women's hockey.
00:31:01
Leo Ernewein
Nice. Yeah. I mean, think you were definitely right to worry about their goals. They, they outshot them 50 to six and only scored outscored them four to nothing. But I guess when it's, when it's been that easy defensively, you're kind of just trying to test stuff out and, you know, are you concerned a little bit about the norovirus outbreak that they've had, you know, with team Finland dealing with it and then the Swiss were able to quarantine and still play, which was good. I mean, they, they did have a,
00:31:29
Leo Ernewein
positive test on Friday, but, uh, you know, these guys, I guess they're all cool.
00:31:33
Lando
I'm no, I'm not. I think
00:31:36
Leo Ernewein
I was going to say these athletes are not supposed to be getting served.
00:31:39
Lando
Yeah, exactly.
00:31:39
Leo Ernewein
Everybody. I'm just judging.
00:31:41
Lando
But, yeah, I...
00:31:42
Leo Ernewein
They're in close confinement. So sorry, go ahead.
00:31:45
Lando
Yeah, no worries, man. You know, I'm not worried about the Norvets. Because, I mean... You know, when you're in close encounters with a ton of people and you're sharing things or you're, you know, you're touching doorknobs, you're touching cutlery, you're touching chairs, you're doing lots of different things, right? So I'm not surprised that, you know, people are starting to get sick, but it is surprising how fast it is going because.
00:32:08
Lando
the this type of flu bug is seems to be very seems to spread and attack people very quickly but it seems like the the uh the olympic committee and everybody uh involved seems to be handling this very very well because i haven't heard any more people getting sick but i but tomorrow's a whole new day too so
00:32:31
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that is fair. Tomorrow is a whole new day. It's a great slogan at the Olympics. I think speaking of slogan at the Olympics, didn't Mary Philippe Poulain, captain of Team Canada, have something on her stick? I'm just reading that here.
00:32:48
Leo Ernewein
Spoke to TSN's Mark Masters after their opening win over Switzerland at the Winter Games and explained that the slogan she has written on her stick for the tournament. Now, oh, it's a video and I don't want to listen to the video.
00:32:59
Leo Ernewein
Show me the slogan. I will get the slogan.
00:33:05
Leo Ernewein
Slogan.
00:33:08
Leo Ernewein
Lives by the motto, fall seven times, stand up eight. Well, I like that.
00:33:12
Lando
Yeah, not bad.
00:33:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that's good slogan. I don't think that's necessarily the one.
00:33:19
Lando
Well, let's go with it.
00:33:23
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it's like only on that video and I don't want to watch the video.
00:33:27
Leo Ernewein
Well, apologies.
00:33:27
Lando
That's all right.
00:33:29
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, there's one more thing to note at the Olympics as well. Mark McMorris had a very heavy crash on Wednesday night during a training exercise and he had to be taken off the course on a stretcher. So it was pretty nasty. The Canadian Olympic committee confirmed it later that evening, but he is the expected to be back ready for the big air event on the 16th. So how much does this change the landscape in big air for you there, Lyndon?
00:33:54
Lando
I think it changes big time because we won't be meddling in that particular event where he normally is pretty darn close to becoming medalist.
00:33:55
Leo Ernewein
Like,
00:34:04
Lando
So that definitely changes the whole landscape. So.
00:34:07
Leo Ernewein
Right, but if he's able to go, but he's just hurt, does that still change things for you?
00:34:14
Lando
Well, because I think if he's hurt and he goes. Oh, geez. You know what? I think it does change things because if he's hurt, he's not 100%, right? Yeah.
00:34:28
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I think this is his first Olympics in his But, you know, he has 22 X Games medals. He's the most ever by medium.
00:34:37
Leo Ernewein
He's come back from worse injuries. And he's one of the few riders who can put down a podium level run even when he's not perfect. So I think the only real question is whether he trusts his body enough to go full rotations on the big tricks on that 16th.
00:34:51
Lando
yeah
00:34:53
Leo Ernewein
It really depends. I guess we'll see more as time comes. Because right now we're on the 7th. So that's 11 days away.
00:35:01
Leo Ernewein
Is there one thing that you're watching for him right now? I guess it's got to be those practice runs, right?
00:35:07
Lando
exactly how how his body takes it how he's going to handle it is he going to be nervous about it you know it's it's all going to be psychological right so i i think i I think that's what I'm going to be watching from in the coming days is how he approaches things psychologically.
00:35:26
Leo Ernewein
I think that's a good answer. Like his, and his first landing will be pretty important too, is opening run scores are usually in pretty much in the high eighties, I believe. So that's always been the best indicator of where
NHL Trade News: Artemi Panarin
00:35:38
Leo Ernewein
his head's at. If he can hit those, if he sticks that first jump clean, he's right back in the metal mix.
00:35:44
Leo Ernewein
If he's tentative or under rotates, you know, the crash is still maybe in his mind. So, well, hopefully not, but it could be. And that, I don't know, could worry me, but,
00:35:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, we'll jump over to segment number three. The NHL made a big move this week. Artemi Panarin gets his trade out of New York, Landon. I know you're pretty happy with that as far as fantasy-wise.
00:36:04
Lando
Yes, I am. Yeah.
00:36:06
Leo Ernewein
He lands with the LA Kings and signs a two-year, $22 million extension. The Rangers, of course, retain 50% of salary in the trade. And...
00:36:16
Leo Ernewein
The return includes forward Liam Greentree and a conditional third round that becomes a second rounder if LA wins a round of the playoffs and another conditional pick tied to a second round win.
00:36:28
Leo Ernewein
Panarin, of course, had 57 points, 52 games so far this year before the move, before he got benched and was leading the Rangers in scoring for the seventh straight season. Which side comes out ahead of you in this move here, Landon? Liam Greentree and the Rangers? I mean, that's a decent round pick if Panarin and the Kings go deep.
00:36:48
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, Panarin is aging too, right? And I've seen some good stuff about Liam Greentree.
00:36:52
Lando
Mm-hmm,
00:36:54
Leo Ernewein
What do you think?
00:36:55
Lando
Well, I think Liam Greentree is a good prospect that they got for the Rangers, and if they're going to do a little bit of retool, you know, that sort of thing, he'll definitely help them. But I think what will really come out of this is the fact that Panarin is going to make the LA Kings that much better because his salary 50-50 between the Rangers and the Kings, but what's really going to help the Kings out in the future is the fact that Anze Kopitar is going be retiring. So not that I'm saying he's going to take the mantle, but he's definitely going to help. One thing that Panarin's going to do is he's going to definitely help make Kempe better. He's just made the Kings that much better. think New York, I don't, like I said to somebody off air that I think the, I don't know what's going in New York with the circus that they're doing, but they really need to figure out what direction they're going because they are
00:37:55
Lando
They are all over the place. And I don't know if Chris Drury knows what he wants to do either. I think he's traded a lot of guys away and got somewhat decent return but not great return. So it's very interesting to see what's been going on in New York the last little bit. It's hard to believe that couple years ago they pushed Florida to the Eastern Conference Finals, right? Yeah.
00:38:22
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you're right. It is hard to see. It's a far cry from them pushing them. It's also far cry for Vancouver and those Canucks.
00:38:30
Lando
Yeah.
00:38:31
Leo Ernewein
Pushing Edmonton in those conference finals a couple years back too.
00:38:33
Lando
Yeah.
00:38:34
Leo Ernewein
Or three years maybe even now.
00:38:36
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:38:36
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, Liam Greentree's not bad. He was a first round pick in 2024. This year he's got...
00:38:41
Lando
Yep.
00:38:42
Leo Ernewein
Where is it? 48 points in 36 games. So 24 goals, 24 assists. Pretty good two-way forward kind guy. And then, you know, on the other side of LA, got Panera in 57 points 52 games, as mentioned.
00:38:56
Leo Ernewein
He's top 10 in the league in primary assists per 60 minutes.
00:38:59
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:39:00
Leo Ernewein
That's not per game. That's per, you know, minutes. So, you know, you average as a forward 25 and up per game, per 60, you know, and he's top 10.
00:39:12
Leo Ernewein
what is the top 10 in the league for that? So that tells he's driving offense. He's not just collecting points on those secondary assists and the Kings don't have to touch their core to get them really. Cause Panarin or not Panarin green trees still with the Windsor spitfires in the OHL and New York gets futures too, but LA gets a guy who can change their top six and he steps in on the ice right away.
00:39:34
Leo Ernewein
So what? Oh, sorry here. What part of Panarin's game do you think fits LA the best, though, Landon?
00:39:42
Lando
I think his disputing the puck, so basically what I'm saying is basically his passing and his playmaking, I think that's going to really help the Kings. And you know what he does? If he can find his scoring touch that he had a couple years ago, he's definitely going to help the Kings' wolves with goal scoring.
00:40:01
Lando
So that's where I think he's going to with L.A.
00:40:07
Leo Ernewein
And I think it could help LA long-term too, because of course they signed him two years. But it just sort of brings their offensive game back up.
00:40:17
Leo Ernewein
I know NHL players probably like to play next to Panera. I know Patrick Kane did for while, but I don't think they like each other very much right now, right?
00:40:21
Lando
Yeah.
00:40:26
Leo Ernewein
But there is, you know, LA gets a top five player In the NHL, sorry, he is top five in the NHL in controlled entry percentage.
00:40:38
Leo Ernewein
And LA sits pretty bad. I think they're bottom third in the league. So that's been their biggest issue is controlling the puck in the zone and not just dumping it in. And he's a guy with the skill to be able to just skate it in. He's kind of the player who elevates everybody else around him too, especially on a team that needs more clean entries into the zone.
00:40:55
Leo Ernewein
So he could really elevate them. You're totally right that he pushes them to the next level. You ready to jump over here to the outdoor game?
00:41:04
Lando
Yeah, man. And one thing I was just going to be real, really quick on. I was not surprised that Panarin went to LA. I knew. I said to my dad. I said to a couple of people at work. I said, Panarin is going to Los Angeles.
00:41:19
Lando
And everybody's like, well, why? I'm like, because they can afford them. Mm-hmm.
00:41:23
Leo Ernewein
They can afford them, yeah, and they can afford to keep them. And I think it just elevates their team to a point that not only this year, but if they make a deep second-round run, guys like maybe Matthews or guys that might look somewhere else in the future might consider L.A. because L.A. is probably a prime place to play hockey, man.
00:41:45
Lando
Yep.
00:41:45
Leo Ernewein
You're not under the microscope.
00:41:47
Lando
Nope. Not as much.
00:41:48
Leo Ernewein
it's warm. It's like Florida.
00:41:49
Lando
Yep.
00:41:50
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I mean, you're still competing with eight other pro sports franchises in L.A., and it is L.A., so you got Will Ferrell at your games, right?
00:41:55
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:42:02
Lando
Yep. Pat Sajak is there too sometimes. So, yeah.
00:42:06
Leo Ernewein
That's cool. Yeah, well, let's jump over here to the Tampa Bay and Boston game about five days
Tampa Bay vs. Boston Game Highlights
00:42:12
Leo Ernewein
ago. They delivered an absolute classic 6-5 shoot a win for the Lightning after coming back from down 5-1, the biggest comeback in outdoor game history.
00:42:12
Lando
Oh.
00:42:23
Leo Ernewein
Nikita Kucherov had four points. Brandon Hagel scored the fastest goal ever at 11 seconds. And we even got a goalie fight between Andrei Vasilevsky and Jeremy Swayman.
00:42:33
Leo Ernewein
The game was played in front of plus, I think, 64,000 fans plus at Raymond James Stadium with Tampa Bay, the Lightning, I should say, now going 17-1-1 in their last 19 games. So...
00:42:47
Leo Ernewein
You know, Boston obviously started hot. Tampa Bay came out strong after. You know, Boston's still pretty good at the moment, but don't think that game quite rocked them.
00:42:54
Lando
Yeah.
00:42:56
Leo Ernewein
Is Tampa Bay like a real threat? they the ones to deal with now after that game? And what are your thoughts?
00:43:02
Leo Ernewein
First off, I just want to ask you, what are your thoughts on the goalie fight?
00:43:05
Lando
My goodness, that was, I don't think it was, everybody thought it was staged. don't think it was. I think it was just, Jeremy Swayman was really mad at being poked by, think was Brandon Hagel at the time.
00:43:18
Lando
And he was hot and Vasiliski said, you're not going to do that to my teammate. If you're going to do that, let's drop the gloves. And so I thought it was great. I think that just made, I think that made the outdoor, that game a classic. And it definitely turned,
00:43:33
Lando
changed and turned the fortunes towards Tampa Bay side because they were really struggling. I think they were down like five, two at that point. And boy, all the stupid penalties that Boston took that game really turned the tide towards Tampa Bay. And that's why they won a shootout.
00:43:51
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I mean, the goalie fight for sure sticks out, right? Once they started skating towards each other at center ice, or not even center ice, it was more towards the hash marks and who was it?
00:43:54
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:44:04
Leo Ernewein
Tampa Bay Zone, I think it was. I can't remember. think it was Tampa Bay Zone.
00:44:10
Leo Ernewein
But Hagel scoring right away, like the fastest goal in an outdoor game, it kind of set the tone for everything that followed, right?
00:44:16
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. And then you knew you were going to watch something that was going to go live and highlight reels forever. So that was kind of cool. Tampa Bay definitely erased a 5-1 deficit that game. So the biggest comeback in outdoor game history. And 17 of their last 19 they've won in.
00:44:33
Leo Ernewein
And Vasilovsky being 14-0-1 as last 15 starts just kind of reinforces how dangerous they look right now. It's not really a hot streak for them. I think they're starting to peak. And I don't know if it's too early, but I'm definitely starting to worry about Tampa Bay again when I check the standings. Like maybe two, not even, it was like three weeks ago. was like, oh, like they're climbing. But I just wish they had a season as disappointing as the Maple Leafs did. What are your thoughts?
00:45:02
Lando
Well, I think Tampa Bay is definitely cooking. Now, there was a question that somebody brought up about Tampa Bay. I think it was on the ESPN broadcast again when they thumped the Florida Panthers at home.
00:45:17
Lando
And they said, how can Tampa Bay keep this up after the break? And I guess that would be the number one question going forward. But, man, Tampa Bay looks good. I've watched them a lot the last little bit. And they look good, man. Oh, man. They are the real deal. And I wouldn't count out Boston yet either because, boy, Boston's really turned things around since last year. to answer your question, though, yeah, Tampa Bay is the real deal.
00:45:46
Leo Ernewein
No, yeah, you're, you're totally right. And just sorry to clear the things up. was just trying to open a video of the goalie fight and it, it was at center ice, was yeah, which was just crazy.
00:45:54
Lando
Oh, it was. Okay.
00:45:59
Lando
It was awesome.
00:46:00
Leo Ernewein
I guess that's where you're supposed to go, but it's, it started with Swayman skating up to them and then they kind of pushed it towards center ice.
00:46:07
Lando
Yeah.
00:46:10
Lando
But it was just...
00:46:10
Leo Ernewein
Because I think there's some, correct me if there's wrong one, and you're a ref, right?
00:46:14
Leo Ernewein
Is there some sort of rule where goalies aren't supposed to cross like the red line or the blue line or something like that?
00:46:19
Lando
Yes, there is a rule, at least in minor hockey. Now, again, folks, the NHL has different rules, but in very different, but in hockey Canada, yes.
00:46:24
Leo Ernewein
Right. Very different, yeah.
00:46:30
Lando
If the goalie, goalies have to have permission to go to the bench for any circumstances, they have to ask the referee to go to the bench if,
00:46:41
Lando
for equipment issues or anything like that. But otherwise, they have to stay in their net. Otherwise, it's a penalty. The only time that they're allowed to go to the bench is when they pull the goalie for extra attacker at the end of the game. Or obviously, if there's a delayed penalty, they can bring out an extra attacker. But yes, there is a rule in the rulebook that goalies are not allowed to basically leave the net.
00:47:07
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. So if they, if they're being called over, it's usually somebody on the bench, they'll check over and they're yelling at them, right?
00:47:14
Lando
Yeah.
00:47:14
Lando
Yeah.
00:47:15
Leo Ernewein
They're yelling their name.
00:47:15
Leo Ernewein
Hey, and they're waving over, waving over saying it's a delayed call on a penalty or, you know, there's a minute, whatever left we're pulling you get, get the extra attacker out there.
00:47:17
Lando
Yeah.
00:47:26
Leo Ernewein
But,
00:47:27
Lando
What's, what's really, what's really fascinating is the fact that the goalies in minor hockey, if this, or junior, if that ever happened, that two goalies fought, they're out of the game.
00:47:40
Lando
The NHL, They leave them in the net.
00:47:41
Leo Ernewein
I'm sure.
00:47:55
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:47:55
Lando
Another guy asked me the question and says, what's the rule behind that in minor hockey?
00:48:01
Lando
And I said, well, in minor hockey, those goalies wouldn't even be in the net.
00:48:05
Leo Ernewein
Oh, no, yeah, they would be tossed out and you'd have your emergency backups play or the whole game would be scrapped.
00:48:10
Lando
yeah
00:48:11
Leo Ernewein
In the NHL, goalie does anything sort of penalty-wise, and it's either they get tossed out if it's not that bad, which clearly both them fought. You can't really get mad them.
00:48:21
Leo Ernewein
Tension was high. You ain't to throw the goalies out at the start the game. So, especially with that many fans, that side is at the level. I'm sure they talked about it, and they were like, you know what?
00:48:30
Lando
yeah
00:48:32
Leo Ernewein
Five minutes for instigating, five minutes for fighting, both you and the box. And did you ever have to call any fights involving goalies in minor league hockey?
00:48:43
Leo Ernewein
I'm sure not both goalies, but one where a goalie got too aggressive towards somebody else and you had to penalize the goalie like that?
00:48:49
Lando
yeah I had a couple times I act not fighting but I had to kick a goalie out for using his blocker
00:48:59
Leo Ernewein
Yes. Yes.
00:49:01
Lando
so yes it is very common yeah
00:49:01
Leo Ernewein
That is very common, isn't Yeah. They punch with it, don't they?
00:49:06
Lando
They do. Common, not common, but common. If everybody and you, Leo, understand what I'm saying, is that, yeah, correct.
00:49:12
Leo Ernewein
Right. It doesn't happen often. If there's an incident with the goalie, it's because he's punched someone with his blocker. It's always they're punching someone with their blocker.
00:49:19
Lando
Correct.
00:49:21
Leo Ernewein
It's not something else. Maybe they're playing something funny with their stick where they're whacking it out or giving little extra chop. But usually that doesn't go too far that if somebody complains about it the ref, you're like, whatever, I'll keep my eye on it. But as long as he's not two-handing you, we're good.
00:49:36
Leo Ernewein
Right? Yeah.
00:49:37
Lando
That is correct, yes.
00:49:39
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, as long as he's not two-handing you and or knocking your stake out of your hands. Like, adhering you from playing.
00:49:44
Lando
Correct, yeah.
00:49:46
Leo Ernewein
But if he's giving you level love tap, that's part of the game. Anyways, but yeah, so you have had some people, you know, freak out and always using the blocker.
00:49:50
Lando
It is.
00:49:55
Lando
Yeah, I've had to kick, yeah, I've, oh, it's the dumbest, yeah.
00:49:58
Leo Ernewein
I love how you're just like, yeah, we're using the blocker. Punch them, don't they?
00:50:04
Lando
Yeah, and it's the dumbest thing because, I mean, really, if anybody actually looks at a blocker, like if you go to a sports store and you look at goalie equipment, look at a blocker.
00:50:16
Lando
Those things are not a weapon, number one, if they're used that way for punching. But look at how hard they are. Like you can really break somebody's nose. And if somebody is not wearing a mouth guard, you could punch out a tooth with that. Right. And it's good thing. Good thing in minor hockey though.
00:50:39
Lando
that everybody and junior, I should say that everybody wears cages. But can you imagine blocker coming at you get blindsided and you know, your jaw breaks, you have a tooth popped out or you have a broken nose because of a blocker.
00:50:55
Lando
It's just, yeah. So yes, I bet.
00:50:57
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:58
Lando
Yeah. But anyways, yes, I, yeah.
00:50:59
Leo Ernewein
There's already enough violence with the puck and the checking. We don't need blocker punches.
00:51:03
Lando
And the sticks work and yeah, yeah.
00:51:03
Leo Ernewein
This is an MMA. Yeah. And skates and, you everybody's got to wear neck guards. And I just remember speaking of blocker punches, when Eric and I were kids, just we, we play a lot of hockey or whatever.
00:51:16
Leo Ernewein
Eric brought and I growing up play a lot of road hockey and stuff like that too.
00:51:17
Lando
Yes.
00:51:20
Leo Ernewein
And you know, we take turns going goalie or whatever. And sometimes we'd, I'd take too many whacks if we drop the gloves and start play fighting or whatever, right? And there was one time Eric had the net and probably too many whacks when the puck was loose or the tennis ball was loose.
00:51:35
Leo Ernewein
And you know it's serious when they take off the mask and drop it and get ready. It's the theatrics of doing when you're a kid, right?
00:51:43
Leo Ernewein
And he dropped the mask. There's been times where the blocker usually... because we've been like, okay, if you punch the blocker, it hurts. So what we usually would do is if you're the goalie, you'd use the blocker hand as the like sort of the Jersey grabbing hand and you grab the Jersey right on the shoulder side and you'd punch with the glove hand so that it didn't hurt.
00:52:07
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:52:07
Lando
Right.
00:52:08
Leo Ernewein
And you kind of punch lightly, jokingly. Like it wasn't, we weren't necessarily like punching knock each other out. It was just kind of a show, right? Like it was just for fun.
00:52:15
Lando
Right.
00:52:17
Leo Ernewein
And so we weren't punching hard at all. And I just remember, you know, we're about to do this play fight thing again. And Eric takes off the mask and just kind of drops it. And he always dropped it kind of like Patrick Waugh would drop the mask whenever he'd go for a fight.
00:52:31
Leo Ernewein
Kind of stoic, like a gladiator almost, you know? when he takes off his mask, like Russell Crowe would take off his mask and look around at the crowd scream, are you not entertained?
00:52:35
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:52:42
Leo Ernewein
Trademark. Anyways, he dropped the mask just like that. And the mask that we were using, just the cage just shattered right off and flew. And we were like, oh, it just took the wind right out of the fight.
00:52:53
Lando
Yeah.
00:52:53
Leo Ernewein
Everything, man. We were just... We were just like, oh, now we have to deal with this. Can we still play? I don't know if you can take shots to the face without the cage as part of the goalie mask. That's kind of the important part was to protect your eyes.
00:53:07
Leo Ernewein
Should we just replace it with sunglasses? Like, I don't know what we did after that. I think we just retired that mask and had to wait until we got a new one or something. But I just remember the mask, him dropping it. We were about to go for a fight, the cage flying off the mask. I thought it was hilarious.
00:53:22
Leo Ernewein
And it totally killed the fight into a, oh, crap, did that just happen?
00:53:27
Leo Ernewein
But, yeah, that's funny.
00:53:30
Lando
Oh, the good old days being out on the street playing road hockey, eh?
00:53:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, man.
00:53:34
Lando
Or mini sticks.
00:53:36
Leo Ernewein
We went to Quebec in an exchange once in grade eight. And it was probably 28 kids from Canmore. And so there's probably 10 or 11 boys out there that all played hockey.
00:53:49
Leo Ernewein
And when we were living in Quebec, we were able to organize all throughout the... they all went to the same school. So they kind of in similar neighborhoods. Yeah. And we all went and organized an Alberta versus Quebec hockey game where we had enough people that we had subs. It was so cool.
00:54:06
Leo Ernewein
I don't remember the score.
00:54:06
Lando
Oh, cool.
00:54:07
Leo Ernewein
Pretty sure we beat them, but I don't remember the score, but I'm pretty sure we beat.
00:54:09
Lando
Okay.
00:54:11
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, I can't, I totally can't remember, but we beat them. But yeah.
00:54:13
Lando
Cool.
00:54:15
Leo Ernewein
Definitely can't remember. I'm pretty sure I played net for most of it.
00:54:20
Leo Ernewein
Just because we, you know, nobody else was goalie. And was like, I'm big, I can do it. And I didn't want to run around for the whole time. But yeah, we played Canmore or not Canmore or was Canmore, but Alberta versus Quebec in a road hockey game when we were like 13 years old.
00:54:27
Lando
I'd, yeah.
00:54:35
Leo Ernewein
And, you know, we had all these kids that were really good at hockey and they had maybe, two three or four of them that actually played like ice hockey and the rest of them would know they played road hockey and every now and then but not it's different when you get somebody who plays ice hockey on a on a travel team right so i think we had that advantage i'm pretty sure
00:54:54
Lando
Mm-mm.
Gavin McKenna's Legal Issues and NHL Draft Impact
00:54:58
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, speaking of hockey, we'll wrap it up here with the Gavin McKenna situation. He was projected to go number one in this year's draft, and now he's facing charges after an alleged altercation near the Penn State campus last weekend. The district attorney's office says the felony aggravated assault charge will be dropped after reviewing the video of the incident.
00:55:18
Leo Ernewein
But prosecutors say the case will move forward on a misdemeanor simple assault charge and other summary offenses. The DA also clarified that early reports of two jaw fractures and a missing tooth were inaccurate.
00:55:31
Leo Ernewein
The victim actually only had fractures on one side of the jaw and has undergone surgery. not sure if that makes any better, but... We'll just make it that clear. Preliminary hearing set for February 11th, which I believe is Wednesday. I'll just double check here. Yeah. Wednesday.
00:55:46
Lando
Yep, Wednesday.
00:55:46
Leo Ernewein
Penn State. Yeah. Penn State said they won't comment further while the legal process continues. Gavin, or not Gavin, Landon. What are your thoughts on this?
00:55:58
Leo Ernewein
Like when you first, when I first texted you the news, what was it? Thursday, Friday. can't remember.
00:56:03
Lando
Something like that, yeah.
00:56:05
Leo Ernewein
Wednesday. think it was Wednesday.
00:56:06
Lando
Yeah, somewhere in there. Yeah, somewhere in there. Well, I mean, you remember, Leo, my reaction, I'm like, no, you asked, did you hear about Gavin McKenna?
00:56:16
Lando
And I said, I'm kind of paraphrasing, but basically I said, no, what happened? And you showed me. And so I looked at while you were texting that back to me, because I could see the little bubbles on our, on my iPhone with you messaging.
00:56:27
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Oh.
00:56:28
Lando
And so I looked him up and I'm like, what did Gavin McKenna do? Like I, and my first thought was, because we had a, you know, we've had a couple of deaths happen or unexpected deaths. I thought something happened to him. Like, because basically why I'm saying an unexpected death is because we had those three hockey boys here in Southern Alberta pass away because of a car crash. I thought something happened like that with him. I'm like, oh no. So I looked him up and yeah. So I looked it up while you were telling me this and I looked up on Google and he was in trouble. I'm like, oh, you gotta be kidding me. Another hockey Canada guy getting hurt or not hurt. Sorry. Another hockey Canada guy getting into trouble.
00:57:09
Lando
And so my my reaction was like, oh, my goodness, what did he do now? And so. I just, I knew there was more to this story. thought felony charge was a little hasty at the start. I thought, well, he must have really had to done something really stupid to do that. But as the story came out a little bit more and more last couple of days, it sounds like this guy egged him on and was, you know, maybe bugging about his, you know, his mom and the restaurant and family and all that. and stuff. So basically, I think this guy basically wanted money out of his family because he knew that this guy, this guy was going to be projected number one.
00:57:50
Lando
He probably comes from a rich family. So I just want to get some money out of him so I can do whatever, but he paid a pretty hefty price and he kind of ruins. Not only did he wreck his body and little bit of his life, but he kind of wrecked this another person's life too. And yeah,
00:58:07
Lando
I was thinking about this too the last couple of days, you know, why Gavin kind of did it. And, you know, we all get emotional and stuff. But one of the things that I thought of about this guy egging Gavin on was the fact that he is Canadian. He's native.
00:58:22
Lando
I bet you there was a couple of racial comments thrown at him. And then also why I'm saying he's Canadian is that because of the tensions between Canada and United States politically, need to make that very clear. It's politically, we don't hate the people. don't think Canadians and Americans hate each other as people, but politically, it's intense. So I bet you one of the, bet you whoever this person was was maybe... one of those far right, you know, believe in everything Trump says type of thing that he was bugging him about being Canadian too.
00:58:59
Leo Ernewein
Well, I mean, maybe, but like for those that don't know, the altercation occurred on the evening of January 31st, 2026 in downtown State College, Pennsylvania.
00:59:10
Leo Ernewein
It followed an outdoor hockey game. And yes, that's the name downtown State College of the actual town.
00:59:14
Lando
Yes.
00:59:15
Leo Ernewein
That's the name I know. didn't believe that they also call it Happy Valley. or Beaver Stadium the name of the stadium, but they call it a place Happy Valley or College State College, College State. It's a weird name for a town. They played an outdoor game at Beaver Stadium where Penn State lost to Michigan State. I saw the picture of the guy. He's a student at Penn State. So I don't think he's mad that they lost. Like Gavin McKenna had a good game. He had an awesome goal and probably most iconic hockey college picture of all time. He's like celebrating on an outdoor stadium in front of 60,000 fans.
00:59:50
Leo Ernewein
and they're just roaring. they did lose though, but, uh, the conflict, according to reports, uh, all was like sort of an exchange of words that took place between McKenna's group and another group near the Pew station parking garage. Some official reports suggest McKenna may have been responding to verbal harassment directed at a family member, like his mother.
01:00:10
Lando
Yeah.
01:00:11
Leo Ernewein
The physical conflict, McKenna is alleged to have punched a 20-year-old man twice in the face. Video footage from the street cameras reportedly shows the victim stumbling backwards after being struck.
01:00:21
Leo Ernewein
The victim suffered fractures on the side of his jaw, which reportedly corrective surgery resulted in his jaw being wired shut for approximately two weeks. So... I guess he found out when he spoke his mouth, but next steps for McKenna, he was released on 20,000 unsecured bail at a prelim hearing.
01:00:39
Leo Ernewein
Of course, we already mentioned his schedule for Wednesday, February 11th. And you mentioned McKenna, he's a, he's a native of white horse and he's related to Connor Bedard.
01:00:50
Leo Ernewein
I believe he's his cousin.
01:00:51
Lando
Yeah.
01:00:52
Leo Ernewein
yeah, Yeah, I mean, it's just tough situation. Does this shift the way teams evaluate him for you the draft?
01:01:01
Lando
Yeah, so, yeah, well... I don't know. think everybody's just going to be more intrigued about how these charges are going to end up and what's going to come out of it and things like that. And the reason why I said this, Leo, and I don't disagree because I know I read the exact same thing that you just said to everybody, but I was just kind of reading in between the lines because that's just kind of what I do. I'm not trying to put words in.
01:01:40
Lando
mean, we'll never know because it won't be released to the public. But as far as your question goes, I think everybody's just going be more going to watch to see what will happen in the next week or two with the charges being passed.
01:01:56
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:01:57
Lando
I think Gavin's going to be fine. I even think that all these other charges are going be dropped on him too.
01:02:04
Leo Ernewein
Well, for me, it's like teams now have to separate the incident from the player. I've seen it before in sports with not necessarily when they're drafted.
01:02:12
Leo Ernewein
Ray Lewis had an incident. I don't think it was when he was drafted, but he was in the car or something like that when a murder weapon. don't know. There was all sorts of stuff. There was a Brandon Miller incident. He's on the Charlotte Hornets in the NBA.
01:02:25
Leo Ernewein
Picked second overall before he was drafted. This was – yeah, he was –
01:02:31
Leo Ernewein
handed a murder weapon to somebody in the car, didn't know they were going to go use it for a murder, obviously, but didn't, or something like a murder, no, a murder weapon was in his car and he didn't want it in his car. Obviously he didn't know it was a murder weapon either, but it's just like he was involved in some legal stuff. So it really depends you know, a, how the charges go, if there's any.
01:02:52
Leo Ernewein
And, you know, he's, he's one of the best players in the WHL or, and he was one of the best players in the WHL and he's one of the best players in the NCAA. You know, his kind of production doesn't come around often to either, right?
01:03:05
Leo Ernewein
Like teams invest eight figures and signing bonus,
01:03:06
Lando
Uh-huh.
01:03:10
Leo Ernewein
signing bonuses for top picks and stuff like that. And they also need to feel confident that the person that they're drafting is as good as a person as they are as a player sometimes, right? That puts more weight on the interviews, background checks, and how he handles the next few weeks.
01:03:24
Leo Ernewein
So we'll see how that goes. I guess, yeah, the biggest thing teams will want to clarify on now is definitely that legal status. But I think it'll also be his judgment, you know, the decision-making behind it.
01:03:36
Lando
Yep.
01:03:37
Leo Ernewein
how he handles pressure, whether this was just a one-off or whether it's something they need to worry about. The talent on him is undeniable, but front offices, drafting somebody that they can handle the spotlight that comes with being a franchise guy.
01:03:45
Lando
Oh, yeah.
01:03:50
Leo Ernewein
So, and with the tournament that Ivar Stenberg has, I'm not sure if, do you still have McKenna as number one right now?
01:04:01
Leo Ernewein
don't know if I do.
01:04:03
Lando
Right now, no. Based on what just happened, I don't think he is anymore. But, mean, will be honest with you, man. People have short memories when it comes to things, right?
01:04:12
Lando
Once this goes away in a couple months, people probably even remember he even did it.
01:04:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:04:17
Leo Ernewein
And, and, you know, there's the other side of it too. I've seen a lot of people saying his draft stock went up because this is the kind guy I want in my franchise sticking up for his family members. I could see where they're coming from.
01:04:28
Lando
Oh, for sure.
01:04:29
Leo Ernewein
but I could also see where GMs were becoming from being like, we want somebody to show a bit more restraint. I don't know. It could come from both ways. Right. So it's, it's a tough,
01:04:36
Lando
Yeah.
01:04:38
Leo Ernewein
It's a tough, not a good look, but again, we're a long ways out from the draft too, right? So a lot things can happen from then till now.
01:04:43
Lando
For sure.
01:04:46
Leo Ernewein
Injuries, hopefully, God forbid, but those can be a part of it too. So we'll see how it goes. Anything else here, Landon, before you want me to close it out and then you to give the shout out?
01:04:57
Lando
So it was real funny thing that my boss told me. I think it was yesterday. He said, or maybe was a couple days ago. So he basically came up to me we were talking about this whole Gavin McKenna thing. And so he comes up to me and he says, just the Calgary Flames luck.
01:05:12
Lando
They may be able to get Gavin McKenna as the first overall pick depending on where they seed or where the balls come out of that machine thing when they do the draft order. But he said...
01:05:23
Lando
Wouldn't that be hilarious? Calgary finally gets the Flames, finally get the first round pick that they really desperately need, and they want to draft Gavin McKenna, and they can't because he's, well, at that time, he was committed as a felony, but now the charges have dropped.
01:05:40
Leo Ernewein
Right.
01:05:41
Lando
So basically, I'm not trying to laugh, folks. I mean, I'm laughing because it's more about the Calgary Flames situation, not about Gavin McKenna, but that just Calgary Flames luck that they managed to get, like I said, get their first round draft pick and that they're able to get a track down with McKenna, and they may not be able to because he may not be allowed to be back, may not be able to play in the NHL.
01:06:08
Lando
So I thought that was kind of funny. Him and I had a good chuckle about that.
01:06:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I think his jeopardy on his career isn't as much as it used to be.
01:06:18
Lando
No, not anymore. No.
01:06:21
Lando
You never know.
01:06:24
Leo Ernewein
least the felony getting dropped is huge, though.
01:06:27
Lando
Yes, yeah.
01:06:28
Leo Ernewein
A felony faced like 20 years in prison or something like that in the state of Pennsylvania.
01:06:31
Lando
Yeah, well, that's the Pennsylvania state laws and the American laws.
01:06:34
Leo Ernewein
That's serious.
01:06:39
Lando
In Canada, I'm not sure what the felony charges are.
01:06:39
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
01:06:42
Lando
I'm not a lawyer, but I know they're not as steep. But yeah, they definitely have stricter rules in the United States for sure, especially in Pennsylvania.
01:06:51
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
Podcast Neutrality and Growth Plans
01:06:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. For the record, we never mentioned anything to do with politics. We're dead straight in the middle. This is sports, not politics. So yeah.
01:07:00
Lando
Correct.
01:07:02
Leo Ernewein
Well, that's all for today, folks. Thanks for listening wherever you are. Don't forget to drop a rating on Apple, Spotify, or the iHeartRadio app if you're listening on that because, well, I should be.
01:07:13
Lando
Somehow we got that on there. We don't know how or how.
01:07:15
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. It really helps the show grow. It does.
01:07:17
Lando
Yeah.
01:07:19
Leo Ernewein
So Lando, your time to shine, bud. Well, I mean, your time to shine was the whole episode too, and you did. But another time, your time right now. Shout out of the week. Let's go.
01:07:28
Lando
All right. So the shout out of the week is going to be my best friend and coworker. Her name is Jane. She's a Seahawks fan. She's been chirping me all week, but I also want to send a good shout out to her because she's such a good friend. She's a sweetheart.
01:07:46
Lando
Her and I watched the Superbowl at multiple locations. We choose a location every year. We've done this for the last five, six years. We've watched every Superbowl since the, why since the well actually not every super bowl it hasn't been the last five years right since the the end of the pandemic so four years and uh yeah we haven't missed the super bowl we it's a tradition we do so i want to make a quick shout out to her that uh Thanks for being such good friend. And she actually listens to us there, Leo, too. So really, really quick, though, after my shout-out here, I want to ask you and put you on the spot here, Leo, before we wrap this up. How the heck did we get on iHeartRadio?
01:08:29
Leo Ernewein
It's got to be something to do with the app that we're posting this, posting the podcast on where it just kind of puts it on all these different platforms or whatever. We'll figure out the YouTube one eventually here and get some video up, which would be great to do someday.
01:08:41
Lando
Yes.
01:08:43
Leo Ernewein
And I'd also like to build a little cool intro with some, some cool moments, but first we got to have lots of laughs, lots of lulls and lots of hot takes on, on the podcast. So we'll build that repertoire and we thank you for listening.
01:08:57
Leo Ernewein
And yeah, thanks.
01:08:59
Leo Ernewein
Thank you all again.
Humorous Reflections on Podcast Fame
01:09:02
Leo Ernewein
That's funny that you mentioned the iHeartRadio stuff here. Have you never heard of it before something like that?
01:09:09
Leo Ernewein
Is that why you're working?
01:09:09
Lando
I have. Yes. No, no, no.
01:09:10
Leo Ernewein
Okay.
01:09:10
Lando
I've heard it. I've heard of the app. Cause it's a radio app, but I just thought it was hilarious that I'm like, Oh, the heck did we get on heart radio? And we kind of joking around and we're joking around as a family.
01:09:21
Lando
Hey, we're becoming famous. Yeah.
01:09:25
Leo Ernewein
Going on Hi-Heart Radio.
01:09:25
Lando
So exactly,
01:09:27
Leo Ernewein
We're going platinum, baby. Don't worry, though.
01:09:29
Lando
exactly. So
01:09:30
Leo Ernewein
We won't be too big for you. We always remember where we came from. Old, small, old valley.
01:09:34
Lando
yeah. So egos are e, yeah, egos are always going to be, our egos are always going to be in check.
01:09:38
Leo Ernewein
What's that?
01:09:41
Lando
So anyways, thanks for listening, everybody.
01:09:49
Leo Ernewein
Nice.
01:09:50
Lando
Nice.