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Episode 6 – Grey Cup Reactions & NFL Surprises/Disappointments
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Leo and Lando break down the CFL’s Grey Cup with hot takes, shoutouts, and a few laughs before switching gears to the NFL midseason — covering surprises, disappointments, and plenty of fan-fueled banter.
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Transcript
Introduction and CFL Season Wrap-up
00:00:16
Leo Ernewein
What's up everybody welcome back to the Leo and Lando show I'm Leo Rewind and as always I got my partner in prime with me Lando Landon Semenok riding shotgun episode six baby CFL season just wrapped up with a great cup the NFL's halfway through or just over and we've got some hot takes some cold takes and probably a few bad jokes but first of all Landon how are you doing my man
00:00:39
Lando
I'm doing well, Leo. How are you doing today?
00:00:42
Leo Ernewein
You know, I'm on the first of four days off in a row and i couldn't be happier.
00:00:47
Lando
Yay.
00:00:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:00:47
Lando
That's awesome. I know how you, I know, I know how you feel. I really do.
00:00:52
Leo Ernewein
yeah So what's new with you? Anything out anything new these days?
00:00:57
Lando
Not much, man. Just, uh, yeah, just, the, the, the days are getting shorter and shorter and you know, the date, it's getting darker outside and yeah, lots of rain the last little bit, no snow. So it's little, little unusual for, you know, going into the end of November, not to have any, any snow on the ground. It was funny. I was looking on my Facebook memories and yeah, take, took some pictures and we had snow already at this time last year and the year before and nothing this year. So,
00:01:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I bet you them ski hills are hurting right now. um
00:01:36
Lando
Actually, i don't think, honestly, I don't think they are doing too badly, to be honest with you. I have heard good and bad, more good than bad, actually.
00:01:43
Leo Ernewein
mean
00:01:46
Leo Ernewein
They've got snow then on the hills?
00:01:48
Lando
They do.
00:01:49
Leo Ernewein
Oh, okay. that's that they I thought they weren't open yet. But yeah, you you know sometimes they're open as early as early November, right? So.
00:01:57
Lando
you know
00:01:58
Leo Ernewein
Nice. Well, right on. We'll jump into
Saskatchewan Roughriders and Grey Cup
00:02:00
Leo Ernewein
the first topic here. First things first. Shout out to the Saskatchewan Rough Riders for snagging the 2025 Grey Cup. Congrats to the players, the organization, and those fans who probably haven't slept since the win. Can you believe this thing's been handed out 112 times, Landon?
00:02:17
Leo Ernewein
That's older than my uncle's barbecue. um What did you think of the game there, Lando?
00:02:22
Lando
I mean, it's hard to believe that that it's been handed out 112 times. like that That is remarkable. That's you know a lot longer than the you know the Super Bowl because they're they're getting up to around the 60 mark right in the NFL. So, yeah, the the game itself was a very entertaining game. It was back and forth.
Saskatchewan vs Montreal Game Highlights
00:02:42
Lando
For those who don't know, it was the Saskatchewan Ruffers defeated the Montreal Alouettes and they won twenty five seventeen i Like I said, it went back and forth. It was really entertaining.
00:02:57
Lando
um if the The excitement was there. You could just feel the intensity with every play. It was great. It was nice to it was really good to to watch.
00:03:08
Leo Ernewein
What do you think of ah that Shea Patterson fumble in the three yard line dead in the game?
00:03:12
Lando
Oh, my goodness. i felt i felt sick for him. I really did. like Of all the times to turn the ball over, When you have all the momentum, like Saskatchewan was on their heels in that fourth quarter. And for him to drop the football, I just, I felt sick for him. i And honest honestly couldn't believe that he actually did.
00:03:35
Lando
So um
00:03:37
Lando
I, like I said, I just, I felt sick for him. And it's funny how he used to be the third stringer for the, Saskatchewan Roughriders and. Spotlights on him and he fumbled the football.
00:03:51
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, what's kind of even more, well, I don't know about ironic, but he was a five-star prospect out of high school in the quarterback position, right?
00:03:58
Lando
Yep.
00:04:01
Lando
yep
00:04:01
Leo Ernewein
And, um you know, ah played for Ole Miss at one point and Michigan as well.
00:04:09
Leo Ernewein
So he was a highly touted guy and then just ends up kind of playing on see if i meanent the the levels to this you know, pro football gamers so marginally thin that it's crazy to see,
00:04:27
Leo Ernewein
um you know, him go down that route, but to just unfortunate for him there in that position and unfortunate for the whole team too, right? Like, well, I think momentum was on their side when they were pushing there for sure to, to score towards the end and,
00:04:49
Leo Ernewein
It's just a ah tough route.
00:04:52
Lando
and you know you know what's interesting that about with Montreal too is the fact that you know I kind of had in their back in my mind and I said it to ah my parents when I was watching it with them I said you know Montreal is going to come back and possibly win this wouldn't that be funny if Saskatchewan now blows another lead because I mean I know lot of Rough Rider fans out there will absolutely remember 2009 and 2010.
00:05:19
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:05:20
Lando
They had massive leads in both games, and they blew it. Both games.
00:05:26
Leo Ernewein
And the 0-9-1 specifically, right, because of the 13-men penalty.
00:05:26
Lando
And then, yes. Yes.
00:05:31
Leo Ernewein
So there's there was some history between those two squads. And, ah you know, props to Trevor Harris, the 39-year-old, you know, balling out in that game, finally winning the big game, earning the MVP honors.
00:05:48
Leo Ernewein
Tough loss for Davis Alexander and the Alouettes, though, man. And Alexander, he's been battling a hamstring and you know injuries all year. He missed the start of the year for a little bit, came back, and was pretty much the lifeblood for Montreal. So to see him struggle in that game, you kind of, I don't know, I felt bad for him.
00:06:08
Lando
I did, but i also got a clap for him too for gutting it out and playing on one leg.
00:06:16
Leo Ernewein
Oh, yeah.
00:06:18
Lando
I mean, not very many people can play with hamstring injuries and be able to play at a performance that he did. I mean, I honestly think that if if Montreal had him healthy, like like an actual healthy healthy, I think Saskatchewan would have been in a lot would have been a little bit of trouble just because of his mobility his arm and what he can do with the football.
00:06:41
Lando
I mean, I think that was i think that was what ah hurt Montreal too was the fact that he just he wasn't healthy. And when you can't when you have your quarterback who's not healthy, I mean, i credit for Jason Moss for you know saying that he's the guy, we'll stick or swim with him. But i there's times when you know they were having trouble but i get doing any momentum, at least in the first half,
00:07:08
Lando
That's when I would have thought, you know what, I think you need to pull the guy. and I think you need to go with McLeod Bethel Thompson. But, I mean, good for Jason Moss.
00:07:15
Leo Ernewein
and
00:07:16
Lando
He stuck with him. And, you know, they san they sank they sank or swammed with him, basically. I mean, they more sank than swammed.
00:07:24
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, and MCB, he's he's not a bad quarterback, right?
00:07:25
Lando
But,
00:07:28
Leo Ernewein
Like, this kind of reminded me of the situation when the Eagles, I think that when they won in, like, 20, what was it, 2017 or 2018?
00:07:29
Lando
No.
00:07:37
Leo Ernewein
I'm going to look it up here just to make sure. But ah in the NFL,
00:07:41
Lando
Oh, Nick Foles, like with Nick Foles and Carson Wentz?
00:07:43
Leo Ernewein
yeah, when they had Carson Wentz throughout the whole year, and then he got hurt towards the end of it and they had Nick Foles leading them through the playoffs.
00:07:44
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:07:51
Lando
Right.
00:07:51
Leo Ernewein
A little bit different, right? Because, you know, you kind of had to make that decision before the Super Bowl game. It was 2018 that they won. But um I thought that maybe there was a ah high chance that we were going to see McLeod Bethel-Thompson. But I guess Jason Moss said that, no, yeah, we're we're we sticking them we're sticking with David Alexander. And, you know, so respect the toughness.
Ryan Dinwiddie's Move: Analysis and Reactions
00:08:17
Leo Ernewein
Did Montreal pay the price, you think, for keeping them in then?
00:08:17
Lando
yep and Yeah, i think i'm i I personally think that they should have pulled him. I think as soon soon as they weren't really gaining any momentum and he was having trouble doing anything, I think I would pulled him.
00:08:33
Lando
But, I mean, i'm not I'm not the head coach, but if I was, that's what I would have done.
00:08:38
Leo Ernewein
Gotcha. Well, that would have created drama. And speaking of drama, um Ryan Dinwiddie, the head coach the Toronto Argonauts, is on his way to our nation's capital there for the head coach and GM position. What's your reaction there, Landon? Is it a smart move or were you thinking, you what do you what were you thinking?
00:08:58
Lando
Well, my reaction to that was like, i i was like, why would you give up a position in Toronto to go to Ottawa? I mean, ah i think Ottawa has, ah you know, has a lot more upside to it than Toronto does, but I couldn't figure that one out.
00:09:15
Lando
But I guess it just shows you how frustrated of a season he had with Toronto that he just, he couldn't get anything out of his players this year. And it's really funny because last year,
00:09:29
Lando
He was the, you know, he was the Grey Cup winning coach, right, with the Toronto Argonauts when they beat Winnipeg.
00:09:34
Leo Ernewein
um yeah Yeah, they're almost.
00:09:36
Lando
So it's amazing how that that script has just flipped over the other way. And now Toronto is, you know, kind of on the downward trend, trying to get themselves back up again type of thing.
00:09:52
Lando
What was your reaction?
00:09:52
Leo Ernewein
ah Well, I at first when I first read it, it i thought I was like, why are you going for a downgrade? And then the more we talk, because I i personally think that Toronto's chances will forever be better than the Ottawa Red Blacks. I think that's a just a revolving door, Red Blacks. i I think the Red Blacks, a job or just playing for that team in general is a stepping stone as far as the definition of a stepping stone.
00:10:22
Leo Ernewein
goes right in and that's like you're gonna take that job to try to impress and get paid somewhere else but the problem is is that it's so tough it's been so tough to win there that i don't know how you impress so it's almost like a catch-22 you're not you take that job because you want the success and he's also taking the general manager role so he's going going to have his hand in in his personnel hand a say in personnel sorry and um
00:10:23
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:10:53
Leo Ernewein
You know, maybe he won't bring Chad Kelly to the nation's capital. Maybe he chased him away a little bit. But, yeah, I just, I don't know. It kind of, at least at least he's doing it after the season because, like, I'm following college football a lot right now, and there's ah a guy named Lane Kiffin who was the head coach the Ole Miss Rebels.
00:11:14
Leo Ernewein
And there's certain programs right now, like LSU and Florida, who have fired their head coaches for disappointing seasons, $54 million buyouts and up, by the way, for those some of those head coaches, which is insane.
00:11:28
Leo Ernewein
But they are courting this guy while their season is still going by flying him and his family down on private jets and ya yada, yada, yada.
00:11:39
Leo Ernewein
If you're a player or even somebody working for that organization, I'd kind of like to know if you're going to have a new boss in the next couple of days. Right. Like, so at at least, at least he waited until the end of the season.
00:11:53
Leo Ernewein
it I don't know if that even happens in the CFL compared to the drama and crap.
00:11:53
Lando
i agree
00:11:58
Leo Ernewein
Sometimes that you'd see in college football or the NFL, but yeah. Um, I'll move on here, Landon. We'll jump over back to the game.
Technical Difficulties in Grey Cup Broadcast
00:12:07
Leo Ernewein
TSN, I heard they had some technical issues during the broadcast. You texted me about it.
00:12:11
Leo Ernewein
What was going on? Did someone trip over the Wi-Fi router or what happened?
00:12:15
Lando
Oh, I have no idea. Like it was just, it was very strange to see how ah great cup game like, like and And we're, you know, 4 million plus viewers were watching. It was just, I flipped it over because i ah you know I'm a Broncos fan and a Patriots fan. And we're going to talk a little bit about them um and it later on in our podcast. But I was watching the Broncos for a little bit against the Chiefs.
00:12:45
Lando
And by the way, the Broncos won. ah But I flipped it over to watch the pregame stuff of the Grey Cup. because you know, want to support Canadian. and And when I flipped it on, there was so many blips, like, you know how that you see on a bat or I guess an example would be when you record something like back with the tape, with the tapes days.
00:13:11
Lando
And if, when you're recording something and sometimes the way if the tape, if the camera jumps or blips a little bit, you, you see that little like pinkish or grayish or blackish line, well it It kept doing that over and over and over during when James Duffy was interviewing people.
00:13:29
Lando
And, and, and so I'm thinking myself, my goodness, what is their problem? I'm like, I'm thinking to myself, well, hopefully the, hopefully the broad, the actual game broadcast is is a little bit better, but their audio for the commentators was quiet. Like it was almost like the crowd was louder than the commentators.
00:13:48
Lando
And then, When the broadcast happened, there was times when if that they were going to their reporters of Clara Hanna and Matthew Shinetti, and then all of a sudden a black screen would come out and then they'd go come on and then they'd go off and then they'd go on. And it was just really bizarre. Like I've i've never seen a broadcast since all.
00:14:09
Lando
It was funny. I was looking on Twitter and Reddit and everybody was saying the same thing. So I thought it was my TV that was doing this or our our feed that we have at here at home. But it sounds like this was happening every everywhere.
00:14:22
Lando
and so And I was texting with my cousins too, and they said it was happening to them. And so like, I think there was little bit of level of frustration for viewers at home that they didn't get it such a great experience throughou because they were so worried about is the broadcast going to go out or not? So it was just, I guess it was just basically the typical, you know, CFL, typical CFL thing where nothing goes seems to go right. They take one step forward and they take 10 steps, 10 steps backwards.
00:14:55
Lando
And it yeah, it was strange. It was just very strange. Did you know, did you notice when you watched it a little bit, if it was doing that?
00:14:59
Leo Ernewein
oh
00:15:02
Leo Ernewein
No, I didn't see too much, but I only caught the second half of the game, so maybe it was only in the first half, but you watched the Blue Jays World Series and you watched the CFL Grey Cup.
00:15:15
Leo Ernewein
In your opinion, like was there... was was there like The Blue Jays, obviously, they had their issues during their games. I think it was Game 4 and Game 7 or something like that. that There was issues during their stream, but what um What disrupted you more, I guess, in that sense, even though it's not really a competition?
00:15:35
Lando
Um, I, I, I think what disrupted for me personally was just that the, when, when they were trying to share something or they the game was going on it. And when the, when it, when it blipped in and out at times, that's what made it very frustrating to me.
00:15:53
Lando
Like I, I didn't know about the streaming thing because I didn't stream the blue Jays. So I can't really comment on that. I had no trouble watching the blue Jays on our television whatsoever. Cause we didn't stream it.
00:16:03
Leo Ernewein
Okay, gotcha.
00:16:04
Lando
We have, Yeah, we have a um the old school satellite TV. So there's a story behind that. I'll tell it another day. But yeah, I didn't have trouble with the Blue Jays. But I think as far as when it comes to but the difference between Rogers and Bell, I think Rogers nailed it a lot more than what Bell did.
00:16:27
Lando
And it's too bad because I i i think as far as a Canadian product, you know You should have all your ducks in a row on a championship game. You shouldn't have any technical issues whatsoever when you have ah when you have a big game like the Grey Cup or something like that.
00:16:49
Lando
your Your broadcast should be as spot on as ah humanly possible. And i i I don't know who was in charge or it was in the truck or who is in the, in the control room, but I, I don't want to see somebody get fired, but I, I would say there are some questions that need to be asked about what, what's about TSN's broadcast for the great cop, because they need to fix that for next year, because here's, here's my opinion on this.
00:17:18
Lando
I believe that if, if they can't fix these things, um they're going to lose a lot more fans again, and you don't want to lose fans. You want to try to keep as many, fancy as you possibly can.
00:17:30
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, no, that's um that's fair. Yeah, like, well,
00:17:37
Leo Ernewein
first, you know, it's, when you said they were switching to black screens there, it made me flash back to when I was in school and we're in the control room working University of Toronto women's hockey game, right, or something like that.
00:17:53
Leo Ernewein
and And we're flashing back to the wrong screen and pressing the wrong buttons or something like that. But yeah, that shouldn't be happening in ah in a championship game. but you know, we can, we'll we'll blame it on the technical issues for now because I'd like to give most people the benefit of the doubt that they were, you know, prepared and stuff like that.
00:18:09
Lando
Oh, for sure. Yeah, for sure.
00:18:13
Leo Ernewein
But we'll jump on to, um before we jump on to the commissioner and stuff like that here, I just wanted to ask you, did you catch any of the halftime shows or r Lady Peace, MGK, any of that?
00:18:25
Lando
Our Lady Peace wasn't very good. I was a little disappointed with him.
00:18:28
Leo Ernewein
allla
00:18:29
Lando
Yeah, he was they weren't very good.
00:18:31
Lando
i I do too. I grew up with him just like you did.
00:18:32
Leo Ernewein
i like them.
00:18:35
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Wow.
00:18:36
Lando
um But MGK... He was really good. There's actually some songs that I actually recognized. so But as half Halftime Show was really good. I thought i thought they that was as good as you can get.
00:18:46
Leo Ernewein
wow
00:18:49
Lando
i mean there I've heard way worse bands playing at a great cup than them. and they were I think they were definitely top five in my books.
00:18:58
Leo Ernewein
Right on. and that's awesome. Yeah, i didn't I didn't catch any of those performances, so I just wanted to hear the thoughts on it.
00:19:05
Lando
No, and Yeah, well, if you ever get a chance to, I'm sure it's on YouTube. um Before we go into the commission, you want to hear kind of my top two that I thought or top three that I thought were Grey Cup performances in the past.
00:19:23
Lando
Nickelback, by far, number one. They were really good. They played in Vancouver. i The Jonas Brothers, they also played in Vancouver. and then and And then the next...
00:19:36
Lando
good one was Keith Urban who played in Calgary before the pandemic that the he was number three in my book Shania Twain played in Hamilton I think it was um she was number four and then MGK I think was number five
00:19:50
Leo Ernewein
Wow, he makes the top five. That's ah that's a solid performance then.
00:19:55
Lando
yeah i I was not not disappointed when they when they finished the show I wasn't disappointed so
00:20:03
Leo Ernewein
Right on. Well, speaking of performances, the commissioner's press conference before the Grey Cup kind of
CFL Rule Changes and Communication Issues
00:20:09
Leo Ernewein
stirred things up. Some rule changes coming in next season, but fans and media are already roasting them harder than a Thanksgiving turkey.
00:20:15
Leo Ernewein
What's your take there, Landon?
00:20:18
Lando
Well, I think as far as the commissioner goes, I think he's starting to feel the heat because when when when he announced these rule changes, and we we talked about that on our podcast a couple episodes ago, when he when they came out with these rule changes,
00:20:40
Lando
they they I think they went way too fast. They basically... push this through we're going to push this through. Sorry. And we're going to ask questions later instead of we're thinking about doing this.
00:20:55
Lando
We want to get everybody's opinions on this. We want to get some feedback on this before we push it through. And then we'll announce it. And so now what's happening is, I mean, fans are, are are getting very angry about the rule changes next year we're in a couple of in the next couple seasons. Sorry.
00:21:14
Lando
And, you know, some of the media are starting to argue with each other through Twitter and and i in social media about what's going on. I mean, the TSM guys are obviously going to, you know, support this because it's, you know, they they're the rights holders.
00:21:29
Lando
So they got to try to, you know, yeah, they kind of have to.
00:21:31
Leo Ernewein
They kind of have to. Yeah.
00:21:34
Lando
They have to play the political game, if you want to call it that. um But everybody else is not really necessarily associated with them other than they write for their teams or whatever.
00:21:45
Lando
they they have a different opinion and I think a lot of think a lot of people are just they're they're really frustrated that you know this past break up this hundred and twelve great 112th great cup is going to be the last great cup as we know with you know these rules with the rules that we have this year this is the last great cup that we'll ever see it with the you know I guess the regular rules if you want to call it that so you know I got to give Stewart some credit. he's trying to do He's trying to make the game better. He's trying to do a whole bunch of different things.
00:22:21
Lando
and I know we talked about in the the CFL and versus NFL with younger fans. One of the things that he said that they're going to do over this offseason is they're going update their website, which is awesome.
00:22:33
Lando
that needs to be updated badly.
00:22:35
Leo Ernewein
I remember we talked about that. and Yeah.
00:22:37
Lando
We did talk about it. Yeah. So he said that's going to happen. They're going to get, um I think it's either, they're going to some sort of sports betting going. I don't know if it's going to be through FanDuel or whoever or bet.
00:22:51
Lando
I don't know who they're going to deal with, but they're going to try to get that going. um They're also going to, what was the other thing? Oh, they're going to try to get a a CFL app up and running and,
00:23:03
Leo Ernewein
okay
00:23:03
Lando
And then I think they're going to update their social media and stuff like that. Try to get and try to get the you know the younger viewers involved. So, I mean, there is some positives, but I think as far as this rule change, I think that this is going to be an interesting off season going into next year, or how this all plays out. Because my understanding is from Salmo Aluminian, who's the Players Association for the CFL, they weren't notified about these new rule changes. And yeah and when you do rule changes, who are the most important people in in sports who um play these games? It's the players. And I just can't believe you wouldn't notify the players that, you know, we or even get some of the players involved.
00:23:55
Lando
And the Referees Association, too, weren't involved in this either. Why you wouldn't do any of that? Why you wouldn't get all these organizations involved when you're going to do these massive world changes? It was bizarre. But I mean, got to live with it because it's going through.
00:24:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it is it is kind of tough that you would think that the CFL organization would contact either or, or both. You would think they'd contact them both, and the fact that they didn't is rather insulting, so I can see why Nathan Rourke and you know all the players were kind of speaking out against it. and It is disappointing that you know the game, the...
00:24:34
Leo Ernewein
the I think a lot of people would take that as a, as a great cup game. Every time there was a great cup, because it was down to the wire and that's what we want to see in a football game.
00:24:42
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:24:45
Leo Ernewein
And it's, it'll be disappointing that, yeah, some of those rule changes will affect how the game will be played out as of going forward next year and stuff like that. So man, they should have just stuck with just moving the field goal posts and that's it.
00:24:57
Leo Ernewein
And everything else would have been fine in my opinion, but that's, that's, you know, and that's another story.
00:24:59
Lando
yeah yeah
00:25:02
Leo Ernewein
Um, I do want to say that, you know, yeah, it's it's it's sad that that'll be the last kind of CFL game of that kind of era going forward.
NFC Surprises and Team Performances
00:25:16
Leo Ernewein
But we'll flip the channel to the NFL here, division by division, starting with the NFC. We'll go to North, South, East, and West. What's been the biggest wow moments for you so far in the NFL-NFC conference there, Landon?
00:25:32
Lando
Well, I think the Chicago Bears have been the biggest surprise in nfc and the NFC, I think. like I remember watching, i think it was the they were playing the Minnesota Vikings. I can't remember if it was week one or week two, but I just remember watching both teams and I'm like, oh my goodness, they are, both teams are brutal.
00:25:55
Lando
I mean, yes, they've got younger quarterbacks. They're, you know, they're trying to find their way, but As far as the Chicago Bears go, I mean, I'm i'm really shocked that they're um The other team that I'm surprised about is the LA Rams.
00:26:12
Lando
I, you know, right the with Stafford, like, you know, I thought with losing Cooper Cup that I thought, you know, this is kind of the end of the Rams, you know, I wouldn't say dynasty, but yeah.
00:26:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:26:27
Leo Ernewein
Playoff window or something like that.
00:26:29
Lando
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
00:26:29
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:26:31
Lando
And so I'm surprised with the Rams. I guess the team that, you know, I kind of want to somewhat focus on a little bit is the, you know, the Arizona Cardinals. i As far as an organization go, I cannot figure it I can't figure them out.
00:26:48
Lando
I honestly can't. I just can't. Like, they're thinking is seriously thinking about dumping Kyler Murray as their quarterback.
00:26:59
Lando
And he's their best option as of now to try to could dig dig themselves out of the out of this hole.
00:27:10
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, but you're forgetting a a new Call of Duty just came out, so Kyler Murray's going to be busy.
00:27:10
Lando
And they're...
00:27:15
Lando
Perfect.
00:27:17
Lando
Perfect.
00:27:18
Leo Ernewein
Sorry.
00:27:18
Lando
yeah I like it.
00:27:18
Leo Ernewein
You know the jokes, right?
00:27:19
Lando
i
00:27:20
Leo Ernewein
that is
00:27:20
Lando
Yes, yes, it's a joke.
00:27:21
Leo Ernewein
His stats go down every time a Call of Duty comes out. and um Yeah, sorry to interrupt you. I just wanted to say that one again.
00:27:27
Lando
It's all good. Did I know? Hey, you know, what you like you said on this thought at the start, we're going to throw some jokes in here. That's a good joke. I like it. So.
00:27:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. i'm I'm surprised about the Cardinals too. I mean, I thought this year it would have been taking steps forward. They had Trey McBride at tight end who was awesome last year. And, you know, Kyler Murray has been dealing with some injuries.
00:27:47
Leo Ernewein
And the guy who stepped in, I actually have him on my fantasy team. It was um Jacoby Brissett, yeah, the former Colts quarterback.
00:27:51
Lando
Jacoby Brissett? Yeah.
00:27:54
Leo Ernewein
And and he's been playing well. i can't You know, a few turnovers here and there, but he's really been throwing it. So fantasy-wise, I'm not going to complain. But – um if when When the Cardinals drafted, I'm going back to when the Cardinals even drafted Kyler Murray. They had Cliff Kingsbury as their head coach.
00:28:11
Leo Ernewein
They just took Josh Rosen with the 10th overall pick the year before.
00:28:15
Lando
Yeah.
00:28:16
Leo Ernewein
Josh Rosen was a five-star quarterback at a UCLA. Was a pretty good quarterback as far as mechanics go. i didn't really like his attitude. Kind of that Aaron Rodgers attitude. You made nine mistakes before you picked me. Every team's going regret it. I'm a Hall of Famer before you even touch the field kind of thing.
00:28:33
Leo Ernewein
But I was just like, to me, I wouldn't have even picked a new quarterback. I wouldn't have picked Kyler Murray. But Cliff Kingsbury actually coached Kyler Murray in college. So he had some ah familiarity with him, if you will. But it's just...
00:28:51
Leo Ernewein
it's it's And going back to the Red Blacks, the Arizona Cardinals are almost a dumpster fire of an organization too. They haven't been relevant since Larry Fitzgerald left.
00:28:57
Lando
Yeah.
00:29:01
Leo Ernewein
And now their head coach, Jonathan Gannon, or I think he was their head coach. I'm not sure if he even still is anymore. and Let's just find out here real quick. um he There was ah one moment where they were winning and they had a running back drop to like fumble the ball before the...
00:29:19
Leo Ernewein
before scoring a touchdown. And Jonathan Gann came over to the sideline. And of course your head coach is gonna be mad, right? But he like bumped into the player, like shoulder checked him or something like that. And everybody was really mad ah about the way he kind of handled that. It looked like he got disciplined by the team or something like that about it. But it looks like he's still in the head coach position as of right now. So we'll see how much little longer that lasts.
00:29:47
Leo Ernewein
Might not be as soon as you hear this, but, uh, well, you know, my other surprise has got to be the Chicago bears too, because I did not like, I like Ben Johnson, but I did not peg them to have them leading the NFC North as of right now, you know, 10, 11 weeks through the season.
00:30:06
Leo Ernewein
Uh, And the Lions, I thought they'd be a little bit better of a team than we're seeing their record show right now. They've had some tough losses, that's for sure. And that's a tough division, too, with even the Vikings, the worst team in the division at four and six.
00:30:16
Lando
and
00:30:19
Leo Ernewein
They've had some quarterback struggles with ah losing Sam Darnold and now having J.J. McCarthy. So that's and a whole other story.
00:30:25
Lando
Yep.
00:30:26
Leo Ernewein
But let's jump over to the AFC here. Same deal, north, south, east, and west. What's standing out for you there, Landon?
Management Issues in NFL Teams
00:30:34
Lando
Well, one of the things that I want to i want to focus on is, you know, the New York Jets are like the Dallas Cowboys. like So where I'm going with this is,
00:30:46
Lando
Both owners are, as far as I know, man correct me if I'm wrong, they're the owner general manager. So both teams are struggling.
00:31:00
Lando
They can't seem to get their footing. They're not playing well. They don't have depth. And yet their owners are saying that ah they they come out and say, well, we know football. We know football.
00:31:16
Lando
I don't think either one of these owners have ever played football. So where I'm going with this is... when If you haven't played football... and And obviously, this is... It's their money. They're investing.
00:31:32
Lando
they they Like I said, it's their money. it's they're They're investing into the team. But when you've never played the game... it And you have no idea...
00:31:45
Lando
about positions and what's all involved, that's when you put your you you you find the right people will help you run the organization and be successful.
00:31:59
Lando
And and both Jerry Jones and I forget the owner of the New York Jets, if you could look that up.
00:32:03
Leo Ernewein
Woody Johnson, owner of the Johnson and Johnson
00:32:05
Lando
Woody Johnson, thank you.
00:32:08
Lando
Right, yes, that's right.
00:32:09
Leo Ernewein
fa i think
00:32:10
Lando
So that's right. So with both of them struggling like they are, It's like put the right people in play. but um But, you know, and so that they are where they are.
00:32:24
Lando
My biggest surprise, two big surprises, actually three big surprises, maybe maybe not so much with the Denver Broncos because I actually thought Denver would take a step up this year. So they're they're not as a big a surprise, but I am surprised where the record is.
00:32:40
Lando
But they by the two biggest surprises is the Indianapolis Colts and my New England Patriots.
00:32:42
Leo Ernewein
you
00:32:49
Lando
i I knew with New England when McDaniels used to be the head coach of the Las Vegas Raiders and he moved over as ah offensive coordinator for the ah Patriots and Mike Vrabel takes over as head coach.
00:33:06
Lando
You know, you got some Patriot familiarity You got a young Drake May who's going to be an upcoming quarterback and, you know, at least ride the ship into a better direction. Well, they've turned the organization completely around and got to give Robert Kraft a lot of credit to say, you know, and and tell the and and the general manager to, you know, say that, you know what, these are the guys we want to go forward. These are the these are farmer paid ah part of the Patriots dynasty.
00:33:38
Lando
this is how we're going to get back to where we got, get to. And I mean, Drake may is looking like a young Tom Brady right now. Would you agree?
00:33:45
Leo Ernewein
He's looking phenomenal. You're right.
00:33:46
Lando
Oh, yes. And, and, it and so I am just, you know, as a Patriots fan, it's nice to see them back. Cause they've had two, two or three brutal seasons where it was just, it was unwatchable. But as far as, you know, the Indianapolis Colts go,
00:34:03
Lando
ah to see Jones playing as well as he is. And it's hilarious because he gets dumped by the New York giants. Like every, everybody is just telling him he's got to leave town, get out of here with your useless.
00:34:17
Leo Ernewein
I did not like him part of the Giants.
00:34:17
Lando
qua blah blah blah blah so
00:34:20
Leo Ernewein
I thought he was price
00:34:22
Lando
i I kind of thought so too. I'll be honest, but, but,
00:34:25
Leo Ernewein
yeah
00:34:27
Lando
ah but when he goes, so when the Colts picked him up, I'm thinking, well, I yeah guess they're desperate, you know, Richardson's not, you know, turning out to being what they want to be, turning out to being ah the quarterback that they drafted.
00:34:42
Lando
ah So I thought, well, you know what, Jones, whatever. I mean, I don't like the Colts personally. I've never liked the Colts because they've had lot of history with New England, um with the Manning Brady days.
00:34:53
Leo Ernewein
yeah
00:34:56
Lando
So I've never been a Colts sp fan, but, you know To see them where they are right now, it's really remarkable. And they've got a really good young team. And they've got an amazing running back in Taylor. like He is phenomenal.
00:35:10
Leo Ernewein
He's leading my fantasy team right now, and I think I picked him in the second round, keeping me single-handedly in the fantasy football league with a lot of my friends like Adam and Eric and Spencer Rose and
00:35:12
Lando
Excellent. Good.
00:35:24
Leo Ernewein
think John Monroe's in it too. So, and Derek Rose and, and yeah, so, you know, it's, it's, I'm i'm happy that the Colts are playing well. Eric is too, cause he's a huge Colts fan.
00:35:36
Lando
Nice.
00:35:36
Leo Ernewein
um The, the, I did want to correct you though. The, there is a GM for the New York Jets. He just got hired last year. His name is, ah ah where did it go?
00:35:46
Lando
they do OK.
00:35:50
Lando
So they do have a DM, OK.
00:35:50
Leo Ernewein
They hired former Jets. well First of all, they had Joe Douglas, who was the former GM of the Eagles. They hired him after the Eagles Super Bowl. They hired him in 2019, and then they fired him last year.
00:36:02
Leo Ernewein
Then they hired Daryl Moogie, who was the general manager of the Denver Broncos for a little bit. and
00:36:07
Lando
Right. Yeah, that's right.
00:36:08
Leo Ernewein
Moogie's only 39 years old, or Moogie.
00:36:08
Lando
Okay. Yes.
00:36:11
Leo Ernewein
I don't know how you say it, but... That's who they got in there now. And so he built a ah decent roster with the Broncos. But you could say the same thing about Joe Douglas. He built a great roster in Philly, and it just didn't really pan out for him in New York. But yeah, like for me in the AFC, the surprise has definitely got to be the Patriots, I think.
00:36:36
Leo Ernewein
I think as far as value goes, Drake May and Christian Gonzalez, the defensive back on the other on like the cornerback for the Patriots, are the two most valuable players
00:36:45
Lando
Mm-hmm.
00:36:49
Leo Ernewein
at their position in the league, right? Well, i don't know about most valuable, but the most valuable tandem right now are those two because they're, play they play really important positions that usually get paid ah high dollar if they're a prime position and they're both in their rookie deals right now and they're both playing really well I think they're both Christian Gonzalez is in the second year of his rookie deal.
00:37:14
Leo Ernewein
Drake, no, Drake Mays in the second year, Christian Gonzalez in the third, something like that. But yeah, they're, they're really impressive.
00:37:19
Lando
Yeah. Mm-hmm.
00:37:22
Leo Ernewein
And of course it's gotta be, the ah well yeah The Broncos surprised me a little bit because I wasn't sure if they were take this much of a step. And I wasn't sure the Chiefs were going to be fall this hard. But it's nice to see. And then the Colts, obviously.
00:37:36
Leo Ernewein
i just love what Carly Ursae Gordon, the owner of the Colts, is doing. Her father, Jim Gordon, was just a notorious... kind of cheap.
00:37:48
Leo Ernewein
I didn't really like him. And his father moved the Colts in the middle of the night from Baltimore over to Indianapolis, right? Like they packed up in the middle of the night and with like all these moving trucks and stuff.
00:37:57
Lando
Yeah.
00:38:00
Leo Ernewein
like It was just ghastly. So I've never really liked the Irsay family, but seeing Carly Irsay Gordon on the sidelines with the headset going, I'm going to fix this thing from the top down and doing it.
00:38:15
Leo Ernewein
Oh, it's refreshing. I love it. i I want more of that.
00:38:21
Lando
one and
00:38:22
Leo Ernewein
I don't know if I want more of that being a worker under her because it seems like it'd be pretty micromanaged.
00:38:26
Lando
yeah
00:38:28
Leo Ernewein
but so What are your thoughts on that?
00:38:30
Lando
Well, I think it's neat to see that he passed it on to his daughters, right? I think that's really neat, right? And and ah and and it's really neat to see that his daughters want to continue his legacy, right? I mean, I guess that just shows how much they love their dad and respect their dad for what they what what you know what they brought for them but or what he brought for them and that they want to continue this on and you know and give their dad...
00:38:58
Lando
you know, some retirement, right? And that, I think that, that, that part is really neat. I think that's, I, I, and I, and I think, you know, you know, sometimes, you know, I, I, I do make fun of women a little bit, but I, sometimes I think women make the bit, make a little, little bit.
00:39:13
Leo Ernewein
I don't think you do.
00:39:16
Lando
I mean, we all, as guys, we all do it. right and I think, yeah, yeah, we, we, no, no, no, no.
00:39:18
Leo Ernewein
oh yeah. Okay. I see what you mean, but it's not like, like malicious intent or yeah.
00:39:24
Lando
It, But I sometimes think that, they but you know, women, they they they see things differently. And because they can they can handle, when things fly at them, they can handle it better than us guys can.
00:39:42
Lando
And so that's why it's it doesn't surprise me to see, you know, what they can do. And, you know, and I'm sure they're divvying out lots of responsibilities to different people. But I think that that ah ah part's really cool. But You touched on the Kansas City Chiefs, and I hope we can talk to about them a little bit because i ah because they've been the the top dog in the AFC.
00:40:06
Lando
As far as the Chiefs go, I'm not surprised that they're struggling this year at all. I kind of thought that they would take a step back. um And I think the reason why they're taking a step back is they don't have the depth that they did ah in the past. And I think the drive to win isn't there. And I think the think the spotlight has been on them way too much. And then the other thing too is with championship winning teams, they want more money.
00:40:39
Lando
they're just fine. I mean, they everybody deserves to get paid and you know for a living. But I think they've overpaid on some players and it's hurting them. And I think also...
00:40:51
Lando
There's too many hotheads on that team and it's hurting them. And I, you can see it. You can see the frustration. And I think, I think if I was the chiefs, I think I'd be going up to Travis Kelsey and say, you need to hang them up.
00:41:08
Leo Ernewein
Really? Wow.
00:41:09
Lando
I really do.
00:41:10
Leo Ernewein
I'm disappointed with Mahomes' performance so far. and I will say that their wide receiver core has a little bit of divas in there with Rushy Rice and his off-field issues that he had this past year. and you know The next eight weeks will provide all the answers for those Chiefs because right now it's it's looking pretty tough for them. But again, all five of their losses this year have been in one score games. So
00:41:36
Lando
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:37
Leo Ernewein
they They have got kind of an unlucky record as far as it shows.
00:41:37
Lando
Yeah.
00:41:43
Leo Ernewein
But, you know, he's...
00:41:45
Lando
But the other thing, though, is the other thing, though, is sort of cut you off.
00:41:49
Leo Ernewein
No, you're good.
00:41:49
Lando
The thing is, is teams now know how to play them now. Right. Like.
00:41:52
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
00:41:53
Lando
Right. And I think I think a lot of their their schemes aren't working for them anymore. and i And they're playing them lot more aggressive. Like, I think Mahomes has been, every game I've watched, been able to watch with the Chiefs.
00:42:08
Lando
ah He's been on his backside a lot.
00:42:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, definitely.
00:42:15
Lando
So, and so, yeah.
00:42:16
Leo Ernewein
He's been chased around. and We're used to that with Mahomes, though, but it just seems like he hasn't quite dealt with it the same way that he previously has in past years, right? so um But we'll switch gears here.
00:42:30
Leo Ernewein
I think I'm understanding that you know it's your turn to grill me,
New Orleans Saints' Struggles and Drew Brees' Transition
00:42:36
Leo Ernewein
being a Saints fan, so.
00:42:36
Lando
Yeah. So I want to ask you because you're a saints fan. So, so for people who don't know Leo as well as I do, Leo is a big new Orleans saints fans. And I, and I respect that because I do like the saints as well.
00:42:53
Lando
You know, they're a classy organization, you know, they've been, yeah they, and they won a super bowl, you know, they've been, you know,
00:42:56
Leo Ernewein
Sometimes.
00:43:03
Lando
They've been at the top of the division where they've... One of my other favorite teams is the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, and they've been smoking them every time until Tom Brady got there, by the way.
00:43:14
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Yeah.
00:43:15
Lando
yeah But my question for you is the Saints have been... if i pull up my the record, they are 2-8, and they've had their struggles.
00:43:24
Leo Ernewein
Two and eight, I think. Yeah.
00:43:28
Lando
So my question for you is... what are your take What's your take on the New Orleans Saints? And my second question is, ah Drew Brees is now in broadcasting.
00:43:42
Lando
So what's your take on him being it on with Fox?
00:43:46
Leo Ernewein
Well, I'll start with the first one there. The Saints, 2-8 so far this season. Spencer Rattler and Tyler Shogg as the quarterbacks. Not your answers, obviously. i don't i don't know why they drafted Tyler Shog in the second round last year. That was a complete waste of a pick on and a quarterback. I think they wanted Jackson Dart really bad. They were hoping they were ready to get him in the early second round. And when he went to the Giants in the back half of the first round, they kind of panicked and and maybe picked their second-choice quarterback. that They were probably hoping to draft him in the third of the fourth round.
00:44:20
Leo Ernewein
But, you know... It is what it is. i think Kellen Moore's in his first year as a head coach, so I think it's too early to judge him right now with the the pieces he has.
00:44:32
Leo Ernewein
I'd want to see him. He was a great offensive coordinator for Dallas. I loved his offenses, and he was a great quarterback at Boise State in this college game in his college years too. So like the guy knows ball. I want to see him stick around. i want to see him get his guy in a draft. I don't think Tyler Shoke was his guy.
00:44:52
Leo Ernewein
It still blows my mind that they drafted him. Makes me mad. He's 26 now. No rookie should be 26. And he had two shoulder surgeries. Like, come on, man.
00:45:03
Leo Ernewein
Like, he's not.
00:45:03
Lando
Thank you.
00:45:04
Leo Ernewein
No, we're going to see Tyler Shogan, the CFL, in a year or two plus. Or under, sorry. But, yeah, it's it's a rebuild year for the Saints for sure. Another top five to top ten pick.
00:45:17
Leo Ernewein
um Really hoping that maybe that there's... I don't know if there's going to be a quarterback that really impresses me coming out of the college ranks this year. um There's a guy out of Indiana.
00:45:29
Leo Ernewein
His name is Fernando Mendoza. He's you know playing really well, but that's more of, I think, a product of how well Indiana's been playing in college football. So I don't know if there's an answer before the season started. I would have been like, we're we're tanking for Arch Manning.
00:45:45
Leo Ernewein
We're going to get... you know the Mannings back in new Orleans because Archie Manning, the grandfather of, uh, Arch used to play in new Orleans for a long time. And he was kind of a staple there and stuff like that.
00:46:01
Leo Ernewein
But Arch has not been great at Texas. So I, I don't know, man, the saints, this, this season definitely seems like a wash ah when I can, when I compare it to like, when I,
00:46:13
Leo Ernewein
play video games or something like that. And I see my team at two and eight, I'm already thinking about the next season. I'm already thinking about the draft and you know, who you're goingnna fill in free agency and stuff like that. So it's sort of the same situation here. And then Drew Brees on the mic.
00:46:26
Leo Ernewein
I really like it. You know, he's working for Fox. He's, uh, There was a day the other day, or not the other day, but maybe a while back where he was calling an Eagles game, and he was saying Jalen Hurts in the offense is boring. And I was like, yes, call it like it is, because they played boring football that game. They weren't they weren't scoring like they used to. They weren't high-scoring, high-flying offenses.
00:46:48
Leo Ernewein
They were ground control, managed to the clock, which is a smart way to play football, but it's boring. And we're seeing that as a result in the Eagles this year, too. I mean, their record's good.
00:46:57
Lando
Thank
00:46:58
Leo Ernewein
They're leading the division. But I have a feeling that if he hasn't already that AJ Brown's time in Philadelphia is out or numbered because he's, a he's just not getting the production that he used to there. And, and obviously is frustrated. And then, yeah, so I love to see Drew Brees behind the mic and I love to see Drew Brees calling it how it is, but I want to ask you as a Patriots fan, I got to throw it back to you, Lando Tom Brady with Fox as
Tom Brady's Broadcasting and Coaching Potential
00:47:27
Leo Ernewein
well. Do you like him in the booth or should he stick to a selling crypto and protein shakes?
00:47:33
Lando
ah i you know i i was ah It's funny. i was telling you a co-worker about that because he's a big Green Bay Packers fan. And we were talking and he just says, I just can't listen to Tom Brady. He just, he he just, he he he has, this is his words, not mine.
00:47:51
Lando
to That he just doesn't have that, you know, that driving force that makes it entertaining. And I said to him, well, you know what, man?
00:48:02
Lando
For a guy who has zero, next to zero experience to broadcast, to take the lead role with Fox, you know, that's a lot of pressure on a guy to, you know,
00:48:17
Lando
come ah to be to be on a broadcast. And i I told him, I said, well, I kind of compare Tom Brady to myself because i remember back on our first episode, I was a little nervous.
00:48:31
Lando
And I kind of know how he feels when you when you're doing something new you're nervous and you're trying to establish yourself as, you know, what you're doing that the nerves take over. And so you kind of say some stupid things, but I've listened to him.
00:48:49
Lando
This is his going on to his second year. i think he's done very well. I, I think, you know, his, his knowledge of the game
00:48:56
Leo Ernewein
I agree.
00:48:58
Lando
His, you know, he knows offenses. He knows, you know, you know I'm sure he can see things happening before his eyes aren with defenses. And i I think that's great for football. I think that's what you want. You want you want your your but one of the best quarterbacks in the league um color commentating.
00:49:21
Lando
And so...
00:49:21
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, given that kind of information, you're right.
00:49:24
Lando
Yeah, so I think, you know, as time goes on, i think he's going to do really well. i mean, I think also, yeah I forget what the guy's name was for CBS, but he was with Jim Nance.
00:49:40
Lando
Not Tony Romo, but the guy before him. I forget what his name I'm drawing a blank. I should know all these names. But... You know, he would he had a he had a tough time, and he established himself as one of the best broadcasters.
00:49:53
Lando
remember Tony Romo being a little iffy with CBS when he started. Now Tony Romo has found his footing, right?
00:50:00
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:01
Lando
So, yeah.
00:50:01
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, exactly. So you got to give him some chance.
00:50:04
Lando
So, you know, you got to give him – you got to give him –
00:50:07
Leo Ernewein
Were you thinking of Phil Simms before Tony Romo?
00:50:10
Lando
Yes, Phil Simms, thank you.
00:50:11
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I loved Phil Simms.
00:50:11
Lando
And so I do too. And so, so yeah, so you got to let people get their feet wet.
00:50:14
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:20
Lando
and you know And I remember you know it it it took Greg Olson a little bit of time to get himself um going too. And for those who don't know who Greg Olson is, he used to be the tight end for the Carolina Panthers and the Seattle Seahawks.
00:50:37
Lando
And I think
00:50:37
Leo Ernewein
Greg Olson was probably my favorite in the booth, man.
00:50:40
Lando
Yes. Yeah.
00:50:41
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:42
Lando
And so it took him a little bit, but now he's doing really well.
00:50:42
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:45
Lando
And Trent Green, who um used to be the tight end for the Kansas City Chiefs, I mean, it took him a little bit too. So I think so my i know I'm kind of bouncing around to answer your question, but my point being is...
00:51:02
Lando
People got to get their feet wet and you got to get cut some slack. Because you got to remember, too, Tom Brady's voice is being heard by millions of people.
00:51:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Oh, just a heads up, Landon, Trent Green played quarterback.
00:51:17
Lando
Oh, sorry. Yes, my my fault. Yes, he played quarterback for the Kansas City Chiefs.
00:51:21
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:51:21
Lando
I'm thinking somebody else. Sorry, man. Yeah, Trent Green, he played quarterback.
00:51:23
Leo Ernewein
Oh, you're good. You're thinking of Tony Gonzalez.
00:51:25
Lando
Yes. Tony Gonzalez. Yes.
00:51:27
Leo Ernewein
I love Tony Gonzalez, man.
00:51:28
Lando
Yeah, would. Yeah, sorry.
00:51:29
Leo Ernewein
He's awesome.
00:51:30
Lando
I mixed those two up. Yeah.
00:51:31
Leo Ernewein
No, you're good, buddy.
00:51:32
Lando
Yeah, Trent Green, you're right. Yeah, he played quarterback.
00:51:34
Leo Ernewein
was like, I thought I remember Trent Green being ah like the quarterback quarterback. Oh, no, that was Mark Bolger, who was the quarterback before Kurt Warner took over in St.
00:51:45
Leo Ernewein
Louis for the Rams when they won that Super Bowl. The greatest show on turf in 2001 or something like that, 2000 or 2001.
00:51:51
Lando
Yeah. Yeah.
00:51:55
Lando
And Kurt Warner sounds good with the NFL Network and when he does his color comedy. So, like I said, he's it's going to Tom Brady some time. But i I like listening to Tom.
00:52:07
Lando
I do.
00:52:08
Leo Ernewein
one One quick question for you before we wrap things up. Do you think that and maybe we're missing out on Tom Brady as ah as a head coach? Because I would love that.
00:52:21
Lando
Oh, man.
00:52:23
Leo Ernewein
There's two people right now in the NFL who I think, or not even in the NFL, but for former NFL players who are still involved in the game of football, but not quite in the way that I want them to be. And that's one Tom Brady as a broadcaster.
00:52:37
Leo Ernewein
I think I would love to see him shaping young minds as a coach. I would, oh man. Just eat that up. But again, it's, it's a risky thing because not always do the best players turn into the best coaches, so but God, is it beautiful?
00:52:50
Lando
Correct. and yeah
00:52:52
Leo Ernewein
Is it a beautiful thing when you have a fantastic mind on the field and then a fantastic mind on the sideline and you make it work both and translate it well. And it's the second one is Andrew luck.
00:53:04
Leo Ernewein
He's the general manager at the Stanford Cardinal, which is his alma mater, the university of Stanford. And, um, You know, it's it's it's a new thing for college football to have general managers. That was never really a thing before this NIO money started coming in.
00:53:20
Lando
Yeah, that is interesting.
00:53:20
Leo Ernewein
And in Stanford is absolutely terrible. they had i think they had Frank Reich as their head coach, I want to say. And I don't think he lasted long. Let's just Google that to make sure as well.
00:53:34
Leo Ernewein
Head coach. Yeah, it was Frank Reich, and I'm pretty sure he's already fired.
00:53:42
Lando
yeah
00:53:43
Lando
So, well, there you go. ah so the answer your question So to answer your question with Tom Brady, I
00:53:45
Leo Ernewein
But so
00:53:49
Leo Ernewein
yeah, go ahead.
00:53:52
Lando
i think for him, i think he would struggle as a head coach because brilliant minds to try to teach and coach football players because he came from a different era, right?
00:54:04
Lando
And for him to coach players these days, i don't know if he would be, ah if his patience, if he has patience or not.
00:54:04
Leo Ernewein
Mm-hmm.
00:54:17
Lando
Hard to say. i don't know. i heart
00:54:19
Leo Ernewein
It's a different animal to coach these days than it used to, for sure.
00:54:21
Lando
Yeah.
00:54:22
Leo Ernewein
I think and think most of those coaches would would struggle with that that aspect, for sure.
00:54:22
Lando
Yeah.
00:54:27
Leo Ernewein
But somebody's got to do Yeah, you think you think he's he's obviously happy where he is, but you think he's in the right spot, eh?
00:54:27
Lando
Yeah. I don't know. and answer your question i you know i To answer your question, I'm not sure if he would ever consider that, to be honest.
00:54:40
Lando
Yeah, I think he is. Yeah.
00:54:42
Leo Ernewein
Cool. Right on. Well, ah that's Rob.
00:54:44
Lando
Unless somebody's really desperate.
00:54:46
Leo Ernewein
What's that?
00:54:47
Lando
Unless somebody's really desperate.
00:54:48
Leo Ernewein
you look um but he's really Well, it's it's the NFL, man. Somebody's always really desperate. And this year, it's probably going to be the Atlanta Falcons because it looks like even they're courting Ole Miss head coach Lane Kiffin, who's probably one of the hottest coaches on the market right now.
00:54:59
Lando
Yeah.
00:55:03
Lando
Yeah.
00:55:06
Leo Ernewein
He used to coach under Nick Saban as the offensive coordinator at Alabama. But you know Lane Kiffin's done some kind of shady stuff, too. At one point, he was the head coach at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville.
00:55:17
Leo Ernewein
and named his son Knox, and then one month later, left in the middle of the night, moved his family ah to the University of Southern California to coach to take the USC job. and so That was like maybe 15 years ago, and it still pisses off a lot of Tennessee fans to this day.
00:55:35
Leo Ernewein
and you know
00:55:35
Lando
Yep.
00:55:37
Leo Ernewein
so We'll see if the if somebody in the NFL gets as desperate to to reach their hand out as far as Blaine Kiffin or even Tom Brady would be. Would be funny, but again, yeah, he's he's not going to take it. it's It's going to take, A, a lot of money to pry him away from his current role, and B, you know, there's it's more than just money. he's he's He's happy where he is, and he's doing a good job, and it's only year two or three, right?
00:56:02
Leo Ernewein
So it's only going to go up from here for him.
00:56:03
Lando
ye
00:56:05
Leo Ernewein
But anything else you want to add in before we wrap things up here, Lando?
00:56:09
Lando
um Well, I guess we'll see how this NFL season plays out right? Like, it's been very... interesting Interesting. I think will we'll find out where everybody is next month, so just after there the American Thanksgiving. We'll see where everybody is and, you know, who's going to make the playoffs and who isn't. So we'll i we'll we'll see, right? And so one of the things that i we do it at the end of our show is I do a shout out to our fans today.
00:56:41
Lando
And I would like to do a special shout out to my brother Colton. He's ah just like his girlfriend, Brianne. He's also a long, long time listener and it's only five episodes in, but he's, he's, he's a fan of ours there, Leo.
00:57:00
Lando
He listens to us while he's at work and on his lunch break, he, he turns on our podcast. He's a pretty proud brother. And so I want to do a special shout out to my brother, Colton, who, by the way, um as we get closer to Christmas, when we do our episode, when we do our special guest for an episode, he's going to be coming on and he's going to talk to some junior hockey. So stay tuned, everybody. So that's my shout out is my brother, Colton.
00:57:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, shout out to Colton, man. I'm ah i'm actually really excited to for that junior hockey episode because we're going to be kind of going into the the ins and outs of life behind the scenes in junior hockey, right?
00:57:43
Leo Ernewein
And some of the stuff that maybe you don't know and hearing it from a former pro who or semi-pro who who did it himself, right? And yeah.
00:57:51
Lando
Yep.
00:57:53
Leo Ernewein
You know, I think it'll be an interesting conversation to have and and interesting for our listeners to kind of hear some firsthand experiences on ah and some of the stuff their children may be going through or might plan to go through in the future.
00:58:06
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, that's a wrap, I guess, on episode six here, the all football episode. We'll talk of, or that's the wrap of the all football episode on episode six of the Leo and Lando show.
00:58:18
Leo Ernewein
Thank you everybody for listening and tune in next time.
00:58:22
Leo Ernewein
I suppose I forgot to play the outro music again. So here it goes.
00:58:26
Leo Ernewein
do do do do to do dude All right, well well, we'll wrap this up here shortly. Landon, anything else you want to say to our listeners here?
00:58:37
Lando
No, that's it, guys. Thank you. Thank you for listening. And one quick thing if everybody could um do for us is um
00:58:48
Lando
make sure that you guys comment, give us a rating, because that's how we get to know how our show is and what other people knows about our show. So please, please.
00:59:04
Lando
comment and give us some star rating. So anyways, take care, everybody.