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Episode 24: World Cup Knockout Rounds, NHL & NBA
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It has been an unbelievable two weeks in sports. In Episode 24, Leo and Lando celebrate Canada making the World Cup Round of 32 and react to the heartbreaking news that Hockey Night in Canada is leaving CBC after 74 years. The guys also unpack the Carolina Hurricanes' Stanley Cup victory, the Knicks' wild NBA Finals comeback, and a massive wave of player trades—highlighted by Brady Tkachuk to Florida and Giannis Antetokounmpo to the Heat. Finally, they close with the definitive end of the Brendan Sorsby legal saga.
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Transcript
Introduction and Sports Overview
00:00:20
Leo Ernewein
Welcome back to the Leo in Lando show. I'm Leo Erdewine.
00:00:25
Lando
I am Landon Lando-Samanok.
00:00:27
Leo Ernewein
And we have a big show ahead for you. Lots to talk about. Seems like every day since the Stanley Cup final, the NBA finals have kind of wrapped up. And on your birthday there, Lando, there was a headline every other day or something like that that's happened. It's been a busy two weeks, lot to unpack. So let's get into it here, Lando. And I hope you're doing well.
00:00:46
Lando
Yeah, my man, let's get rocking and rolling because we, yeah, holy smokes, we got lot to talk about.
00:00:52
Leo Ernewein
By the way, I just wanted to pop out there. Love the idea of the Lando takes. That's a solid way to get more content out there, man. That's great start. So love it.
00:00:59
Lando
Thanks dude.
00:01:00
Leo Ernewein
Keep it up.
00:01:00
Lando
Yeah,
Canada in the World Cup Discussion
00:01:00
Lando
it was lot of fun to do.
00:01:00
Leo Ernewein
We'll start with the World Cup here. Yeah, I bet, man. You're good at them, though. I like them.
00:01:07
Leo Ernewein
Let's start with the World Cup here for Canada. Canada is now one win, one tie, or one draw in the World Cup of Soccer and one loss. They stomped Qatar 6-0 with Jonathan David getting a hat-trick.
00:01:23
Leo Ernewein
Qatar played with nine players. Three of them got, or two of them got red cards. They played Bosnia, tied. Bosnia-Herzegovina played. They drew one all in that one. And then today they lost to Switzerland.
00:01:38
Leo Ernewein
2-1. Still make it to the round of 32 though. think they'll finish the second in that table. Your reaction there, Landon, to Canada?
00:01:48
Lando
Well, you know what? I think this is a humongous step for Canada. I know we talked about this last episode that, you know, where Canada is going to sit and, you know, this is the furthest they've gotten to.
00:02:00
Lando
I think, I don't even think they even qualified for the rep for the next round last World Cup.
00:02:05
Leo Ernewein
No. They didn't get a win, right?
00:02:06
Lando
So this is,
00:02:08
Leo Ernewein
So, yeah.
00:02:08
Lando
They didn't get a win. Yeah. So this is a humongous step for this organization and the team. And I'm excited for them. Now, will they go any further than this? I guess it depends on who they play. And I guess we'll wait and see in the days to come.
00:02:24
Lando
uh, who they're going be playing because there's still a lot more, pools to be decided and a lot more games to be played in the next few days here before we'll find out. So I think, uh, June 27th to the 29th, somewhere in there, all the around Robin stuff will be wrapped up.
00:02:39
Lando
So we'll find out who Canada plays, but,
00:02:41
Leo Ernewein
Yes, I think they'll be playing at 1 p.m. on Sunday, either against South Korea, Czechia, or South Africa, the runner-up from Group A, and we'll find out that tonight.
00:02:56
Lando
Okay, so we'll find out
Analyzing Canada's World Cup Potential
00:02:57
Lando
in the next little bit. Okay. I thought it may be next few days that we won't know who they play. So South Africa, Czech Republic, and who's the other one?
00:03:07
Leo Ernewein
South Korea.
00:03:08
Lando
South Korea. Okay. Well, you know what? South Africa maybe might be the, of the three, might be the tougher of the groups, but South Korea, huh?
00:03:14
Leo Ernewein
I'd go South Korea. And don't know, all three of you. I'd say South Africa gives us the most hope.
00:03:21
Lando
Okay.
00:03:21
Leo Ernewein
That's my opinion. Yeah.
00:03:23
Lando
interesting. See, we're opposites on this one.
00:03:26
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, for once, eh?
00:03:26
Lando
Okay.
00:03:28
Leo Ernewein
I mean...
00:03:28
Lando
What do you think of Canada? I know we're on opposites on this one.
00:03:31
Lando
What do you think of Canada?
00:03:32
Leo Ernewein
They could have. So I watched the game. It was the first one I was able to watch where I wasn't at work. Because I think I caught the Qatar one. But it was already like 3-0 when I got to work. And so I wasn't really paying attention.
00:03:45
Leo Ernewein
Because I wasn't on sports that day. I was doing something else. But
00:03:48
Lando
Fair enough.
00:03:50
Leo Ernewein
I watched the game today. And they could have scored right early with Kyle Lahren. But he kind of like... played too much with it, tried to be a little too fancy and go around the goalie. the goalkeeper, I guess a goalkeeper in football, it's goalie in every other in hockey. Anyways. And yeah, just hit a little too fancy with it.
00:04:10
Leo Ernewein
And so that was really disappointing. Maxine Kripal, their goalkeeper with a huge save though. And then they subbed off Kyle Lahren, which thank God they did and brought in promise David. We're not sure if he's like a hundred percent fully fit, like healthy wise. So we don't know if he can play like a full game yet.
00:04:27
Leo Ernewein
At least that's what I think. That's why I think he's starting.
00:04:29
Lando
right
00:04:30
Leo Ernewein
But when they brought him on, they had an incredible play from the back line where this guy, Luke Dufujerol, lobbed it up. And one of the midfielders, I think it was Nathan Saliba, caught it on his foot on midair. So they call it like a volley, right? He caught it on his foot and popped it over his head.
00:04:51
Leo Ernewein
And without it touching the ground, hit it across and And without that ball touching the ground, the guy promised David, who subbed in for the guy who missed the goal, like hit it in the net. It was just beautiful. It looked like a goal you scored on FIFA that you can't stop. It was... Oh, man. I think if you have more goals like that, I was severely... Not severely. I...
00:05:16
Leo Ernewein
overwhelmingly surprised. was like, oh, wow, I didn't do all you had that. was three passes in a row landed that I don't think touched the ground. From the defender on the back, lobbed it forward.
00:05:29
Leo Ernewein
The guy beat his defender by hitting it over his head and stopped and then passed it across for the guy to score. And none of it touched the ground. And I was like, this Brazilian football here.
00:05:40
Leo Ernewein
What am I watching? That was awesome.
00:05:42
Lando
yeah
00:05:43
Leo Ernewein
So I loved that, but that was the only kind of moment of brilliance there in what was ultimately a game that I was kind of expecting Switzerland to be the dominant factor. I mean, Canadian football, they play almost like, it's very irritant. They were trying to get under their skin and then they were flopping.
00:06:10
Leo Ernewein
So it's hard sometimes to be able to watch that and root for them.
00:06:16
Lando
Yeah, I know what you mean.
00:06:17
Leo Ernewein
So, yeah.
Hockey Night in Canada Broadcast Changes
00:06:19
Leo Ernewein
But I mean, that's also, that's also part of the sport too, is that, you know, you go down when, when you have an advantage to do so. And sometimes people don't, I mean, there was some other good sportsmanship moments. There was a,
00:06:34
Leo Ernewein
You know, a player was actually hurt for Switzerland and was down and the whole Swiss team was like having their arms up. And when Canada was like slowly attacking, moving the ball forward, I think it was the right back, Alistair Johnson, just like kind of let the ball go out of play and didn't touch it.
00:06:49
Leo Ernewein
And I was watching the game with Adam, my sister's boyfriend, and was like, oh, look at the head coach, like freaking out being like, because he didn't let the ball go to play. he was freaking out because Switzerland didn't want to give the ball back to Canada to start to restart play or whatever.
00:07:04
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, I'm far veered away from my point. I liked the game in some moments. It was mostly what was expected. So we'll see who they play in the round of 32, which still sounds weird. It should be the round of 16, but whatever. This match should have started with just 32 teams. But I digress.
00:07:24
Leo Ernewein
I'm hoping, I guess, it's South Africa. Because I think Czechia would pose another 2-1 challenge. And I think South Korea would beat us 3-1.
00:07:33
Lando
Interesting. Interesting. Well, I'll be honest with you in the end of years. haven't watched one soccer game yet.
00:07:41
Leo Ernewein
You're a busy man, Landon.
00:07:41
Lando
I've been working.
00:07:43
Leo Ernewein
You follow in all the NHL stuff.
00:07:43
Lando
Yeah, I'm a very...
00:07:45
Leo Ernewein
You're a busy man.
00:07:46
Lando
I'm a busy man and then the NHL stuff and then what's been busy with work and then anytime that I get a chance to go on the golf course with non rainy days, I'm going to do it. So I will and not to mention, I'll be honest with you, a lot of the soccer games that I really want to watch, I'm working.
00:08:07
Lando
So, yeah, I haven't watched one soccer match. But I do keep tabs on who's winning, who's playing, see the scores, stuff like that. So I haven't catched one Canadian game yet. But hopefully got vacation coming up here the next little bit. Hopefully I'll be able to catch a little bit and watch little bit more soccer going forward.
00:08:27
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I mean, if you're free on Sunday at 1, you can check out the game. I'll be just getting off work.
00:08:32
Lando
Nice. Yeah, okay. So it's Sunday. Okay.
00:08:35
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
Memories from Hockey Night in Canada
NHL Trade Strategies and Super Teams
00:08:38
Leo Ernewein
in case you haven't heard, big news coming out of the Canadian broadcasting world last week
Toronto Maple Leafs Trade Speculations
00:08:43
Leo Ernewein
CBC won't be renewing its sub-licensing with Rogers to broadcast Hockey Night in Canada every Saturday night and kind of, you know,
00:08:52
Leo Ernewein
Well, throughout the playoffs and after the 74 years that it's been it won't be on the airwaves anymore. So CBC announced that it will fill those time slots with Olympic stories and other coverage. Landon, I was kind of shocked about it. I know you were too. What do you think about Ojoa?
00:09:10
Lando
I was shocked and sad to see it go. know after 74 years, all things got to come to an end at some point. So yeah, it's just sad to see. I was little disappointed to hear about it. I mean, obviously, Rodgers and CBC have their reasons why they wanted to go their separate ways. And I guess we'll just leave it at that. I mean, if you can base your opinions on whatever you see online. But, yeah, just I was sad. It's such a neat icon to –
00:09:40
Lando
to be able to witness and watch every Saturday night. But I don't think it's really necessarily honestly going to go away per se. It's just not going to have that big emblem, that CBC, that, you know, that big Hockey Night Canada emblem.
00:09:55
Lando
Rodgers going to make it their own. So
00:09:57
Leo Ernewein
I know, but I can't tease Hockey Night in Canada on the sports radio anymore.
00:10:01
Lando
I know you can't.
00:10:01
Leo Ernewein
Wait.
00:10:02
Lando
No, nobody can.
00:10:03
Lando
Blame, yeah.
00:10:05
Leo Ernewein
Here's a good one, though. Do you have your favorite Hockey Night in Canada moment? Is it with a family? Is there a game that you remember? What's your favorite Hockey Night in Canada moment?
00:10:14
Lando
Oh, boy, do I have tons.
00:10:17
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:10:18
Lando
I think one of my favorite Hockey Night in Canada moments, you know, was watching Scott Oak with After Hours and, you know, asking multiple players questions and asking.
00:10:30
Leo Ernewein
Landon, you're a diehard man.
00:10:32
Leo Ernewein
Scott Oak, After Hours.
00:10:32
Lando
Yeah.
00:10:34
Leo Ernewein
That's awesome.
00:10:35
Lando
Yeah.
00:10:36
Leo Ernewein
Oh,
00:10:36
Lando
I watched it every night. I watched him every night, every Saturday night I could. And yeah, Scott Oak with After Hours and got to know all these players and stuff like that. That was a neat part.
00:10:49
Lando
I think another neat part of Hockney and Canada for me was to see Gretzky retire. I think that was one.
00:10:56
Lando
I remember watching that when was a kid.
00:10:57
Leo Ernewein
man.
00:10:59
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:10:59
Lando
Another one was obviously this is Stanley Cup playoffs, but seeing... Joe Sackick, the Stanley cup to Ray Bork that happened on hockey night, Canada.
00:11:10
Leo Ernewein
That was going to be my one. Yeah. I loved that one.
00:11:11
Lando
Yeah. And I was the one of the best. and then I, I, one of the neat parts was to, you know, was listening to Bob Cole every, every night too, and listening to him the playoffs and maybe he's Bob Cole.
00:11:24
Leo Ernewein
Maple Leafs pop. Yeah.
00:11:33
Leo Ernewein
All right, people.
00:11:41
Lando
Lidstrom obviously plays for the Red Wings. And shot the puck on Dan Cluche, who plays for the Vancouver Canucks. I remember watching that one night. And then, obviously, seeing Don Cherry on Saturday nights, too. I think that was...
00:11:56
Lando
You always were curious about what Don Cherry had to say share his opinions, whether you liked him or not or liked his opinions or not. I think that was the coolest part about watching Hockey Night in Canada was listening to him.
00:12:09
Lando
And, yeah, there's just so many memories, man. How about you? I'm sure you've got tons.
00:12:15
Leo Ernewein
Do you remember the inaugural Heritage Classic? I think it was like 2003.
00:12:17
Lando
Yes, Montreal and Edmonton. Yeah, yeah.
00:12:20
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, in Edmonton. Commonwealth Stadium.
00:12:24
Lando
Yep.
00:12:25
Leo Ernewein
And then I think it was Edmonton, right?
00:12:25
Lando
That was a, yeah.
00:12:30
Leo Ernewein
And then in 2008, didn't they lose the rights to the iconic hockey theme and they held a nationwide contest?
00:12:31
Lando
Yep, it was in Edmonton.
00:12:39
Lando
Yep.
00:12:40
Leo Ernewein
I don't know. I thought that was kind of cool.
00:12:42
Lando
Yeah.
00:12:43
Leo Ernewein
I'm trying to think of other moments that I would have watched. Tons of Leafs games that ended in disappointment. I think more so was just watching them with my dad as a kid.
00:12:49
Lando
Yeah.
00:12:55
Leo Ernewein
You know, and having a Budweiser, even though I do not like the taste of beer for some reason I did that. So I'd have like a sip of his Budweiser while we'd watch the beer, while we watched the game with them.
00:13:08
Leo Ernewein
And I'm pretty sure that was always on Saturday nights. But yeah, that's probably what I'll miss most is those kinds of stuff for that kind of opportunities, but I don't really have a kid.
00:13:21
Leo Ernewein
So, you know, you're going be doing that.
00:13:23
Lando
But exactly.
00:13:25
Leo Ernewein
I don't drink beer either.
00:13:26
Lando
But exactly.
00:13:26
Leo Ernewein
So,
00:13:29
Leo Ernewein
We all change, right?
00:13:29
Lando
Why don't we do we do.
00:13:30
Leo Ernewein
We all, everything changes and more moves along.
00:13:32
Lando
Well, and one of the things that, you know, I think people got to realize too is that, you know, the Saturday night thing I don't think will ever go away. It'll still be broadcast nationally. It's just it's going to sports that run.
00:13:44
Lando
So they may do some different things that they couldn't do in the past.
00:13:44
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:13:48
Lando
So we'll see. Time will tell.
00:13:50
Leo Ernewein
We'll see what, yeah, we'll see what's different about it.
Hockey Hall of Fame 2016 and Coaching Changes
00:13:53
Leo Ernewein
I can't judge until I see it, you know?
00:13:55
Lando
Me too. Yeah, yeah.
00:13:56
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Something we can judge. Well, I don't know if we can. Something we're going to judge anyways, right? NHL trades, lots of them.
00:14:03
Lando
Yes.
00:14:06
Leo Ernewein
Flurry of trades over the past couple of days ahead of the NHL draft, I think is this Friday at 6, so in a couple days here. Biggest one was probably Brady Kachuk, at least biggest one for me. A lot of people say in Bowen Byron, but biggest one for me, Brady Kachuk, traded to the Florida Panthers. Kind of seems like he forced this move to play with his brothers. Yadawa, though, kind of got a haul in return. They got the ninth overall pick.
00:14:29
Leo Ernewein
25th overall pick in 2026, both a conditional 20 to a pick in 2029 and a second round in 2027. Uh, and then I think they flipped one of those ninth overalls.
00:14:43
Leo Ernewein
Right. As well, uh, to San Jose for Will Eklund, uh, sharks, uh, now have the second overall pick and the ninth. So they're going to probably pick Ivar Stenberg is he's probably as good as gone or McKenna who's ever left out of those two.
00:15:02
Leo Ernewein
Landon, what do you think about, do think Ottawa got enough? Cause that, I mean, they, they turned that whole in my opinion until something pretty good.
00:15:10
Lando
They did. So I want to say something about with Brady Kachuk, and I'm going to try to keep this as rated G as possible. But one the things that I found with Brady Kachuk, and this has been probably back when, you know, the U.S. president came on board, that everybody in Canada was doing this whole, you know, Canada first type of thing. You know I'm saying by that?
00:15:36
Lando
And so what happened was when the U.S.
00:15:36
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:15:39
Lando
president became president, current one right now, you know, everybody was so uptight and so mad at the United States.
00:15:49
Lando
And what's happened is people who, like Brady Kachuk and Matthew Kachuk and many players, from the Olympic team went to go to the White House. Everybody just basically said, you aren't welcome in Canada for going to the White House, blah, blah, blah. And so what's happened, and Brady Kachuk is no exception to this, is that basically Ottawa pushed their captain to the brink, and he basically said, I've had enough.
00:16:18
Lando
This is too distracting to me and my family. want out. And basically Ottawa traded him to Florida to go play with his brother. And it worked out, worked out for him to go play with his brother.
00:16:29
Lando
But I think, you know, I think this is not a good thing for us as Canadians in Canada, because what's going to happen is, is what's going and it's going to happen with Matthews too.
00:16:39
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:16:42
Lando
it'll, I know Carter Hellbach, same thing in Winnipeg, right?
00:16:42
Leo Ernewein
I think so too. Yeah.
00:16:47
Lando
Like it's just, it's,
00:16:47
Leo Ernewein
It's already starting to happen. You're right.
00:16:49
Lando
It's already start. And so a friend of mine told me this, a coworker at work. He told me something happened the Olympics for the American players to say, want out of Canada.
00:17:02
Lando
No, like, I did this.
00:17:02
Leo Ernewein
They started group chat. They started a group chat with every American player and they said, Hey, how much are you making down there in LA and Phoenix?
00:17:06
Lando
I want to happen.
00:17:11
Leo Ernewein
And well, not Phoenix anymore. LA and not LA, guess either. they're taxes, but they can in Dallas and, and,
00:17:16
Lando
Well, yeah. LA, Anaheim, yeah, Dallas, Vegas, Florida, Tampa, Miami.
00:17:22
Leo Ernewein
Florida and Vegas. I don't know what Minnesota's taxes are like, but from what I heard is that they were trying to form like a super team. And I thought Minnesota was going to be the destination, but I don't, I don't know.
00:17:34
Leo Ernewein
Like now that, now that Matthew's, uh, not that Matthew, now that Brady could chucks down in Florida, cause I thought he was going to go to Minnesota.
00:17:43
Leo Ernewein
That's where I was banking on. If I had to bet,
00:17:46
Leo Ernewein
but I don't even, I don't even know if that was some of his team choices, right? Didn't he list like three and it was like Florida, Vegas and, Oh, maybe it was Minnesota.
00:17:57
Leo Ernewein
I
NHL Coaching Hires and Styles
00:17:57
Leo Ernewein
don't know.
00:17:57
Lando
I think you're thinking of Larkin.
00:18:00
Lando
Dylan Larkin did that.
00:18:00
Leo Ernewein
Oh yes.
00:18:01
Leo Ernewein
I remember that. Yeah.
00:18:02
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:02
Leo Ernewein
I don't know. I don't know if Brady even had a Brady Chuck had no movement clothes or anything, but he wasn't resigning. That's for sure.
00:18:09
Lando
No, that's for sure.
00:18:10
Leo Ernewein
Right. So,
00:18:11
Lando
Yeah, he wanted out. And so basically,
00:18:12
Leo Ernewein
When I first saw it, I didn't think that was enough. And then I'm like, you know what? I don't know if I'd really like Brady Kachuk that much that I would give up more.
00:18:17
Lando
It is enough.
00:18:22
Leo Ernewein
And then when I saw them get Eklund for the ninth, I was like, okay, they won.
00:18:25
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:28
Leo Ernewein
They won that trade.
00:18:28
Lando
Yeah.
00:18:29
Leo Ernewein
But, I mean, could be a win-win because Florida could be really good with the brothers.
00:18:29
Lando
Yeah, they did.
00:18:33
Leo Ernewein
I mean, you know they're going play hard together. I would not want to face that line.
00:18:35
Lando
Oh, yeah.
00:18:38
Leo Ernewein
If they're playing on the same line, no.
00:18:38
Lando
I wouldn't want to face Florida yet. I wouldn't want to face Florida now because they, they, they're going to rested.
00:18:41
Leo Ernewein
God, no. No.
00:18:45
Lando
Now, the only thing with Florida though, they may not have a very good goaltender behind them, but we'll see.
00:18:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, has Bobrovsky kind of fallen apart?
00:18:52
Lando
I think that he's a free agent apparently.
00:18:54
Lando
So yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:18:54
Leo Ernewein
All right.
00:18:56
Lando
Apparently.
00:18:57
Leo Ernewein
Well, what's Connor Hellebuck end up down in Florida?
00:18:57
Lando
So yeah, that's probably what's going to happen. You watch, but I mean,
00:19:03
Leo Ernewein
I mean, they drafted Spencer Knight, but I think these, where is he now, Chicago? Where's Spencer Knight?
00:19:07
Lando
Yeah, Spencer Knight's in Chicago.
00:19:09
Leo Ernewein
Chicago, yeah. So speaking of Chicago, you know, they traded the fourth overall pick, which I think a lot of Blackhawks fans were looking forward to see who they were going to pick, to the Buffalo Sabres for Bowen Byron and Jordan Greenway for his, yeah, you know, and the 45th overall pick I think they got back as well.
00:19:32
Leo Ernewein
What's your reaction there, Landon?
00:19:35
Lando
So my reaction to Bowen Barham, that's a great defenseman. They need somebody like him. The only thing that I work
00:19:40
Leo Ernewein
Right, but a lot of people have argued that he wouldn't be a top-line defenseman on other teams. And then other people I've seen argue, well, he's behind Rasmus Daly and no one power. So I could see him wanting, being frustrated and wanting to move out. And then, you know, there was another guy that the Flames got that was also available I thought maybe would have fit Chicago better. But I don't know. I'm still high on Byron, too. He's pretty young.
Closing Sports Thoughts
00:20:10
Leo Ernewein
I'll let you keep going.
00:20:10
Lando
You know what? We had him in Colorado.
00:20:13
Lando
What's that, sir?
00:20:14
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you had him in Colorado. He won a cup with you guys, right? Like, he's got that...
00:20:17
Lando
He did. was a big help. He's a good defenseman.
00:20:19
Leo Ernewein
Yeah?
00:20:20
Lando
He's a very good defenseman.
00:20:22
Leo Ernewein
You're really high on him, eh?
00:20:23
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:20:23
Lando
I am. The only thing that I worry about him is he's got concussion history and he gets injured prone sometimes.
00:20:29
Leo Ernewein
Hell, fuck.
00:20:30
Lando
But, I mean, Chicago got a good defenseman. They need somebody like him. And it's a good, huge step forward because they need to start getting players to play with Bedard.
00:20:40
Lando
Or they're going to lose Bedard, too, if they don't start becoming competitive.
00:20:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, well, they've struggled to kind of build around Conor Bedard, right? And...
00:20:48
Lando
They have. Well, and he's had a very up and down last few years too. So it's not just all, we're not just saying their organization.
00:20:54
Leo Ernewein
And they didn't move any their... And some people I've seen Hawks fans complain that they can't be happy because they have a war chest of assets and draft picks and they trade one of them, the draft pick in this case, to get a top defenseman which they should be doing for top players. And then when they get a top player, which could be Bowen Byram, they're complaining.
00:21:19
Leo Ernewein
Right. So it's kind of all depends on how he'll perform this year. But they didn't trade like guys like Frank Nazar or Artem Leshinov. How do you say his last name?
00:21:29
Lando
Last turn off, yeah.
00:21:30
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, they didn't trade any of their really invested core. So if the fourth overall pick, if they didn't see anybody there that they really liked, I like that move for them.
00:21:43
Leo Ernewein
And then they got a guy like Bowen Byron who has cup experience who's, what, 25?
00:21:44
Lando
I do too, yeah.
00:21:50
Leo Ernewein
Do you know how long he's locked down for?
00:21:54
Lando
I can look that up right now real quick.
00:21:55
Leo Ernewein
going to do that too.
00:21:57
Lando
While we look this up, I just want to quickly go back to Brady Kachuk. So basically, know we've talked about him real quick, real quick. or in the past, but basically I think Brady Kachuk was also a problem with the senators too. And I think he tried to make it all about him. So was kind of a win-win for everybody. I think he needed to get out of there. think the senators needed a fresh start and a new leader on the team. So, and speaking of Bowen Byram, he signed a two year, 12 points.
00:22:28
Lando
Oh, he's re-signed. So he signed a contract with the Blackhawks. So they, So he had a, yeah, so he just signed a contract.
00:22:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, he becomes UFA and...
00:22:38
Lando
So with the Blackhawks being traded.
00:22:38
Leo Ernewein
No, he signed it in 2025. He signed it last year.
00:22:42
Lando
Oh, did Okay.
00:22:43
Lando
Because
00:22:44
Leo Ernewein
It's just the way it's reading to you, it still counts this year as this...
00:22:48
Leo Ernewein
Like, it's still giving you a salary for this year.
00:22:49
Lando
oh, gotcha. Okay.
00:22:51
Leo Ernewein
So, he'll be on the books just for next year for 6.2 and then he's a UFA.
00:22:52
Lando
So he,
00:22:56
Lando
right, right, right. Yeah.
00:22:56
Leo Ernewein
So, it's really like...
00:23:00
Leo Ernewein
That's kind of a gamble to me.
00:23:02
Lando
Yeah, it is.
00:23:02
Leo Ernewein
I mean, you sign them if you like them and they have a lot of cap space.
00:23:02
Lando
Yeah.
00:23:07
Leo Ernewein
But, man, I don't know. I don't know if that should change anything, actually, because I don't know. I'd rather that, because that gives you the flexibility than have him locked in at eight years 6.2, even though that's a great number for a tough defenseman. If he doesn't equal that, you don't – right?
00:23:26
Leo Ernewein
And we've seen flashes of him.
00:23:28
Leo Ernewein
I think the argument is, is he a top two pairing? Because that's what you'd probably trade a number four overall pick for is a top two pairing guy. And I think from what I'm hearing from you is that, yeah, he's going to be a top pairing guy for them.
00:23:41
Leo Ernewein
And he will stay a top pairing guy.
00:23:42
Lando
You will be. Yep.
00:23:44
Leo Ernewein
All right, cool. So something that I think, we'll jump over to this one here and then we'll jump over the other one that you have in the script. But the guy that I kind of mentioned that was also on the trade box that the Flames ended up getting, they traded, you know, Craig Conroy moved some of that war chest that they had of draft picks.
00:24:00
Leo Ernewein
Their 2027 first round pick from Vegas, which was top 10 protected. A 2028 first round pick from Colorado, also top 10 protected. And a 2026 second round pick and sent a prospect to New Jersey for defenseman, Simone Nevich.
00:24:17
Leo Ernewein
I think the prospect was Etienne Morin, if I'm correct.
00:24:20
Lando
Yep, yep.
00:24:22
Leo Ernewein
Simone Nevich was the defenseman that they acquired. He was the former second overall pick. And he comes to the Flames. And I really like this move for Calgary.
00:24:31
Lando
I do too. Oh, I do too.
00:24:33
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, so I'll let you go into it there, Landon. Tell me what you like about it.
00:24:37
Lando
Well, he's a young defenseman. He's a puck mover. He can quarterback a power play with something that Calgary's had trouble with in the past.
00:24:46
Leo Ernewein
Right shot, baby.
00:24:47
Leo Ernewein
Right shot, defense. Yeah.
00:24:51
Lando
And I'm going to look up his stats real quick here too, but I mean, he had a...
00:24:55
Leo Ernewein
He didn't have a lot, but he was asking for more minutes. I think he was struggling behind minutes behind Luke Hughes. And I always rated him more than Luke Hughes.
00:25:01
Lando
Yes, he was, yeah. I did too.
00:25:05
Leo Ernewein
But I think Luke Hughes gets a little bit of referential treatment down in New Jersey because of his brother, right?
00:25:05
Lando
And he's 20, he's 22 years old and he does.
00:25:11
Leo Ernewein
So at least that's my opinion.
00:25:11
Lando
Yeah, he does. No, you're not wrong, but he's.
00:25:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. So I'm really high on this one. That's why I think even though Leshinov was a, or however you say his name for the Blackhawks, is a rate shot defenseman, you could never have too many of those guys.
00:25:26
Lando
uh, no, no.
00:25:28
Lando
And, And you know what the nice thing about this wheel?
00:25:29
Leo Ernewein
And
00:25:32
Lando
He's 22 years old. He's young.
00:25:32
Leo Ernewein
yeah.
00:25:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, love it.
00:25:36
Leo Ernewein
Love it.
00:25:38
Lando
think he's going to be great for Calgary. And you know what? And he's going to mix in very well. I mean, he's going to be playing with fellow countrymen Martin Pospisil.
00:25:47
Lando
So, yeah, this is great. I'm excited.
00:25:49
Leo Ernewein
I think he'll start on the first line with Kevin Ball.
00:25:51
Leo Ernewein
That's where I'd have him right away.
00:25:52
Lando
Yeah, that's exactly what I would put him into.
00:25:59
Leo Ernewein
was I going to say? Oh, yeah, we're going to jump over here. Jordan Cairo, finally out of St. Louis. That's a get over.
00:26:04
Lando
Yeah.
00:26:06
Leo Ernewein
The Blues get back Connor McMichael, prospect Milton Gastron, and this year's 2026 first-round draft pick from the Capitals. Do you know where that first-round draft pick is in the draft, Landon, on this Friday?
00:26:18
Lando
I think where I saw it was, I think he, I think it was in there. I think St. Louis was, they, they have back-to-back picks now. Cause I think that it was 15th and 16th.
00:26:29
Lando
They have now. And I think they were,
00:26:30
Leo Ernewein
Oh, it was higher than the rank
00:26:33
Lando
I think it was the 15th that they got from this trade.
00:26:36
Lando
I think they're sitting 15th.
00:26:37
Leo Ernewein
is 16th overall 16th.
00:26:38
Lando
Yeah.
00:26:39
Leo Ernewein
They were clicking 15th.
00:26:41
Lando
They're picking 15th, but they got 16th over. Okay. So, yeah.
00:26:43
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:26:44
Lando
So out of this trade, they moved up. They've got back-to-back picks that they can get in the first round.
00:26:48
Leo Ernewein
You like, you like the trade though. I feel like they could have gotten more in my, don't know. I don't know much about Connor McMichael. Maybe he's a dog. Yeah.
00:26:57
Lando
He was on their second and third lines in Washington. And I think he kind of got, I wouldn't say necessarily pushed out, but he kind of got, kind of, yeah.
00:27:08
Leo Ernewein
but is he like Tom Wilson almost?
00:27:12
Lando
He's very similar. And he actually had a career here last year.
00:27:14
Leo Ernewein
Like he can play the PK? Okay.
00:27:17
Lando
Pardon me? Yeah, yeah.
00:27:19
Leo Ernewein
He can play the PK?
00:27:19
Lando
So... He did. And he played power play and he had a career year last year. He had not like, not this past season, but the last year's season, he had a career year and he, he was one of the reasons why Washington was up there in the, making the playoffs with Ovechkin with his, yeah, making that push with it, with Ovechkin's, you know, breaking the Redskins record and stuff.
00:27:38
Leo Ernewein
With the making that push, yeah.
00:27:46
Lando
So,
00:27:49
Lando
Well,
00:27:50
Leo Ernewein
I think he'll come back because if he doesn't say so, then he's coming back, right?
00:27:54
Lando
based on the moves that Washington's making right now, it kind of looks like he may not be coming back. I mean, I think we're going to talk about Alex Duck in a little bit here, too.
00:28:04
Lando
But Alex Duck went to Washington, and they're assigned him to long term.
00:28:07
Lando
But...
00:28:08
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:28:08
Leo Ernewein
right. But don't you think that they're doing that to build up talent around him? Or do you think they're doing that because they have the empty cap space because he's not coming back?
00:28:17
Lando
I think it could be a bit of both. It's hard to read on this, but I'm just kind of, I'm kind of, was kind of thinking that today. I'm like, Ooh, I'm wondering if Ovechkin's not really coming back that they're trying to say, we got to fill in some voids. Now we got to get some younger, younger faces in the, in, in, I don't know, hard to say, but I think St. Louis, this is beginning of rebuilding. And I think Jordan Cairo had a tough year and he needs a new place to go play. And I think Washington is suits his style.
00:28:47
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. He had, he had only like what?
00:28:48
Lando
Yeah.
00:28:49
Leo Ernewein
47 points, 46 points last year.
00:28:51
Lando
Yeah. He had a, he had a strong, I, he did not.
00:28:51
Leo Ernewein
That's, he didn't play a full 82. And I think they're what, are they moving to 84 this year? Is it next year?
00:28:59
Lando
this year, this upcoming year, this is yeah.
00:29:00
Leo Ernewein
This year.
00:29:02
Lando
84 games.
00:29:03
Lando
So, yeah.
00:29:03
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. So the caps have roughly 12 and a half million in projected space right now after the talk move that we'll talk about.
00:29:04
Lando
Yeah.
00:29:11
Leo Ernewein
And, uh, And of course, Jordan Kairou on the books carrying an 8.125 mil cap hit for Mr. Kairou there.
00:29:22
Leo Ernewein
So I'm just trying to find the Jordan Tuck stuff or Alex Tuck. Yeah, Alex Tuck got traded away to Washington. He signs an eight-year extension. Now Buffalo has room to sign Zach Benson to eight years, 50 million plus.
00:29:36
Leo Ernewein
Is he worth that, Landon?
00:29:38
Lando
Well, he had a good year, but I don't know. You're paying a lot for a pest, basically, is what I think. But I don't know. Buffalo is really funny because they've lost a lot of guys that were big pieces of their run, right?
00:29:50
Leo Ernewein
Right. It usually happens in baseball when you can't afford to re-sign them. In hockey, when you do a playoff run like that and break out of a slump almost, if you will, it seems like you would retain a bit more talent. I wouldn't be happy if I'm a Sabres fan.
00:30:06
Lando
Oh, I'd be.
00:30:07
Leo Ernewein
That's cool the offseason.
00:30:08
Lando
But isn't that funny how they...
00:30:10
Leo Ernewein
The fourth overall pick is intriguing, but you can't use that to build in your window right now.
00:30:10
Lando
Isn't that funny how they...
00:30:14
Lando
No, you can't. No. No, absolutely not.
00:30:16
Leo Ernewein
At least not likely.
00:30:18
Lando
But isn't it funny with Buffalo, though, man? That they seem to take two steps forward and then they take six steps back. Right? Like, it's nuts.
00:30:28
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:30:29
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. It's disappointing because I got a soft spot for the Sabres, man. I think that's American hockey country along with Minnesota.
00:30:30
Lando
But yeah...
00:30:34
Lando
I do too. I had one too.
00:30:38
Lando
Yes.
00:30:38
Leo Ernewein
And so I think those are where – I know people that live in Buffalo, and they care about the Sabres, and they care about sports too, but they're diehard sports fans.
00:30:46
Leo Ernewein
Not to say anywhere is any different. I just – I have a connection with them. And so it's disappointing to see that.
00:30:52
Lando
Yeah, I get it.
00:30:55
Leo Ernewein
I'm hoping that it turns out well for them. We'll see who they get at number four. Maybe they see if somebody wants to trade up and use that to get back into some talent that can help their window now.
00:31:07
Leo Ernewein
Somebody that's helping up their window now, though, definitely. Or there's locking up Jason Dickinson and Connor Murphy, two extensions. Do you, what you think about those?
00:31:19
Lando
Well, I think with the Connor Murphy signing, that just means that they're able to trade Darnell Nurse now. And I think that's why they could.
00:31:26
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, but do you think anybody's to give up what he's like,
00:31:30
Lando
Yeah. I think Connor Murphy is a lot better of hockey player.
00:31:31
Leo Ernewein
His cap hit's so big. I feel like they're going to have to take the loss on the trade just to move him.
00:31:33
Lando
Yeah.
00:31:36
Leo Ernewein
And then Darnell Nurse is going to play better than whatever was given up back for him.
00:31:36
Lando
Yeah.
00:31:43
Leo Ernewein
And then it's going to create more of a stir of a poop pot in Edmonton.
00:31:48
Lando
Yeah, it will. But you know what, man? I think Conor Murphy is a lot better of a hockey player than Darnell Nurse is, to be honest with you. that's the reason why they brought him in. I think they've got a better defenseman. And we'll see what they do with Darnell Nurse. But...
00:32:03
Lando
I like the signing. It wasn't massive amount of money, I don't believe either. think it was, what, five years, $20 million, somewhere around there. So it wasn't a huge amount, but I think they paid – think he's worth the amount of money that they're giving him, but he's got to have a – He had a pretty good year last year. He's got to keep it up. Jason Dickinson, he's a big part of that team. He's going to be their second, third-line player. I think they signed him to roughly around the same amount of money. I think it was five years, $18 million, if I'm not mistaken. So they got a pretty good price in both players. And I think he's going to be a big – they're going to be two big pieces going forward for the Oilers. So they've locked up two young –
00:32:42
Lando
Well, decently young players, and they're in their prime. So good on those two for signing in Edmonton.
00:32:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I like the signings too. And speaking of big pieces, Bobby McMahon staying in Seattle, six years, five and a half million to stay with the Kraken. Of course, they acquired the deadline from the Maple Leafs.
00:33:02
Leo Ernewein
What are your thoughts on him?
00:33:04
Lando
He had a tremendous amount. He had a tremendous end to the year. just remember that I actually picked him up in our hockey pool because he was scoring so much.
00:33:17
Leo Ernewein
right.
00:33:22
Lando
That's where I finished. But I picked him up in our hockey pool. And he He ended off the year really, really well. And I think he's a certain player that Seattle needed on their team.
00:33:32
Lando
And he's good signing. I think he's a good hockey player and he's going to do very, very well for Seattle. And I think Seattle is starting to come on here. I think we'll have to really watch them in the Pacific because I think they're slowly, slowly going to be catching on here.
00:33:48
Leo Ernewein
I thought Seattle... Yeah, I thought they were going to have to start like Vegas did, though, for some reason. I know they didn't get gifted the expansion draft that the Golden Knights did with the talent that wasn't protected.
00:33:59
Leo Ernewein
I think the rules had changed, right, and stuff like that.
00:34:01
Lando
Yeah.
00:34:01
Leo Ernewein
But for some reason, I just had... I thought Seattle had a bit more... don't know. I was really high on Matty Beneers. I thought he was going to be...
00:34:12
Lando
And Jared McCann too.
00:34:14
Leo Ernewein
Elite, elite. And then, like, not to say Beneers isn't great, but he's kind of taken a step back the past couple, too, right?
00:34:18
Lando
Yeah, I know what
00:34:22
Lando
you mean. One, Jared McCann too, like, yeah.
00:34:25
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Jeremy Kent, yeah.
00:34:27
Lando
But, you know, to your point about Seattle compared to Vegas, what I think happened, and I think Ron Francis and the group really, really undervalued a lot of players.
00:34:39
Lando
I think they were hoping that we would get these guys because think they're kind of like trade leverage, and I think they were going to hope to – you know, be able to, you know, these guys would be trade leverage type of players.
00:34:52
Lando
They picked horrendously when it comes to expansion draft. I think they really, yeah,
00:34:59
Leo Ernewein
Old, old, didn't they? They picked an older roster than I thought they were going pick.
00:35:03
Lando
they did. Yeah, they did. And they did, I don't think they picked very, I don't think they picked their players very well. And I think it's, they're starting to, they're starting
00:35:12
Leo Ernewein
I also think they got screwed because it's not so much.
00:35:14
Lando
They did get – I think they got screwed too because of what happened with Vegas. I think teams were like, no, we're not going to do this, this, and this. But on the – yeah, they did.
00:35:21
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, so they went really harsh on the limits.
00:35:24
Lando
But at the same time, Seattle didn't do – I think Seattle didn't go very – they didn't do their – they didn't do the finals any favors.
00:35:29
Leo Ernewein
view themselves any phases. Yeah.
00:35:32
Lando
But, yeah, to your point, Matty Meneers I think has really struggled. But, you know, also Jared McCann has really struggled too because that first year, Jared McCann was on fire. He had a career year.
00:35:42
Lando
I know he's been injured prone and yeah, it's just, I, and they've had goaltending issues, which I think now Grubauer and, uh, the court are going to start, uh,
00:35:54
Leo Ernewein
The tandem.
00:35:54
Lando
Start the year. Yeah. The, the, the tandem, I think just kind of struggled a little bit.
00:35:56
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:35:57
Lando
Their goaltending hasn't been great. So even Brandon Martour a tough year too. I think they were hoping to have a stellar defenseman and he struggled.
00:36:07
Lando
So, but I, like I said, I think Seattle, think they're going to, there's, I think they're going to be a team to watch for next year, this upcoming season in the Pacific, because I think they're going to start to come on here a little bit.
00:36:18
Lando
They, they started to a little bit towards the end of the year. But they just ran out of runway.
00:36:24
Leo Ernewein
Another team to watch for, or a team to hate watch for, is probably what most people do. The Maple Leafs acquired Taron Radish from the Lightning.
00:36:30
Lando
Yeah,
00:36:33
Leo Ernewein
He was going to be a UFA, so they traded a fifth rounder to say, hey, let's get his rights. They signed an eight-year contract. What was it, 8.1 or something like that?
00:36:44
Lando
yeah.
00:36:45
Leo Ernewein
Eight years, eight. which, you know, you'd think, oh, great. And then you look at his age and he's 30 and you're like, eight years, man.
00:36:56
Leo Ernewein
I'm just going sign for you guys in the free agent window anyways. You didn't have to give him eight years and give him a fifth. The Lightning weren't going be able to reafford him, no doubt. I don't think so.
00:37:08
Lando
No.
00:37:10
Leo Ernewein
Does that mean Morgan Riley is gone though, Landon?
00:37:13
Lando
I think so. I, I apparently today was reading from Darren Drager from TSN that he has sent a list of four teams and they are in the West.
00:37:24
Lando
Now, whether that's Canadian teams or whether that's just the Western teams could be Vancouver.
00:37:28
Leo Ernewein
Vancouver.
00:37:30
Lando
That's where he's from, by the way.
00:37:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, love to see him in Vancouver.
00:37:33
Lando
So
00:37:34
Leo Ernewein
Give us your first rounder.
00:37:36
Lando
yeah, no, there's no way they're going to do that, but,
00:37:37
Leo Ernewein
We have third? Yeah, there's no way. There's no way.
00:37:42
Lando
There's no way they're going to do that.
00:37:43
Leo Ernewein
We'd get a second or a third, maybe.
00:37:46
Lando
But you know what?
00:37:47
Lando
I'm going to make fun of my good friend Kyle Dackney and our backup co-host.
00:37:47
Leo Ernewein
Lillies, there's none there.
00:37:48
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:37:54
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:37:55
Lando
I'm going to tease him a little here because I know he's going to listen. This would be a typical Vancouver thing to do. Oh, Morgan Riley will give up all the nice draft picks that they got from the trade deadline.
00:38:07
Lando
They're going to give them away and get Morgan Riley. That'll be typical Vancouver thing to do. I hope they don't do it, but it wouldn't surprise me, but would laugh too.
00:38:14
Leo Ernewein
I hope they don't do either, but I would laugh.
00:38:17
Lando
And then I would,
00:38:18
Leo Ernewein
I think he'd go... you think he'd fit the duck's window at all, or is he too old?
00:38:23
Lando
He could. mean, think he just needs it. I think Morgan Riley just needs a fresh start. I think he needs to get out of Toronto. Usually with players, and you know this as well as I do, Leo, when you get older, yeah, you may not have to speed like you did when you first came into the league, but you should almost be better.
00:38:42
Lando
and be wiser and defend well.
00:38:42
Leo Ernewein
Defense, like awareness, positioning, that stuff.
00:38:45
Lando
Exactly.
00:38:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:38:46
Lando
that stuff.
00:38:47
Lando
He's gone downhill.
00:38:48
Leo Ernewein
And he's not.
00:38:49
Lando
Yeah. He's gone way downhill.
00:38:49
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, know.
00:38:52
Leo Ernewein
And he used to be my favorite Maple Leaf.
00:38:53
Leo Ernewein
And so I'm watching him play and I'm like, why is everybody hating on Morgan Riley? And I'm like, oh. And so, like, I didn't even think he'd be a fit in Edmonton because he wouldn't.
00:39:00
Lando
That's why. Yeah.
00:39:04
Leo Ernewein
Like, you put on a line with Evan Bouchard and just watch the whole world burn.
00:39:09
Lando
Ha ha ha ha. classic. Yes, I know.
00:39:12
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:39:13
Lando
Yeah. But anyways, he sent, I don't know what those four teams were. I don't even know if they're Canadian markets. Who knows? So, but I guess he, just four teams.
00:39:20
Leo Ernewein
Did he list the four teams or was it just four teams?
00:39:23
Lando
They didn't list.
00:39:24
Lando
So he didn't list them.
00:39:24
Leo Ernewein
Okay.
00:39:25
Leo Ernewein
Okay.
00:39:26
Lando
So as far as Darren Radish goes, I think you guys, I think you got a good defenseman, but I think they overpaid him.
00:39:31
Leo Ernewein
I don't like the contract. Yeah.
00:39:34
Lando
I think they overpaid him.
00:39:34
Leo Ernewein
Overpaid. I don't know if it's overpaid as opposed to over extended. Because you look at other players that are making that, like Luke Hughes is making close to eight or something like that, right?
00:39:42
Lando
yeah yeah.
00:39:48
Leo Ernewein
Noah Dobson. I'd say he's just below Noah Dobson, but I'd say he's close. Like, he had a great year last year. He finally got first-line minutes with no Victor Hedman.
00:40:01
Leo Ernewein
So you got to see what he's like first line.
00:40:02
Lando
yeah.
00:40:04
Leo Ernewein
But there's also... They were playing, they were on a thriving hockey team. Well, I don't know. Actually they, they stumbled at the start of the year, didn't they?
00:40:16
Lando
They a lot injuries. Yeah.
00:40:17
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. I don't know. I just think they overextended. I think that, I think he'll little, it'll look great for the first two years. And then the next couple of years, you're fighting to get them off your books, but maybe that's just the nature of the business.
00:40:30
Lando
I think so too.
00:40:33
Lando
I think so too.
00:40:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Speaking of the business, the class of 2016 Hockey Hall of Fame, not really anything to do with business, but we'll use that as a transition. Patrice Bergeral, Carey Price, Pekka Rene, Keith Kachuk, Cindy Curley, along with executive Brian Burke in the builder category. Landon, anybody missing or do you think everybody's deserved to be in there? are your thoughts?
00:40:57
Lando
I think those are great picks. I don't know much about Cindy Curley. apologize to everybody, to her and everybody. I'm not sure much about, I don't know much about her, but the other guys I do, Patrice Bergeron.
00:41:11
Lando
I mean, you basically could probably you could pretty much change the Selkie trophy to the Patrice Bergeron trophy because he wanted so much.
00:41:19
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:41:20
Lando
Right? Right? But, Patrice Bergeron is as class as you could possibly get. mean, he retired as a Bruin. He went through the thick and thin with the Bruins. He was their first-round draft pick.
00:41:34
Lando
know, he made everybody better. mean, he made Marchand and Pasternak become the players that they are today. That line was dominant. Yeah.
00:41:44
Lando
yeah, just, I, I, I loved his toughness. I loved how he played. I liked how he won face-offs. he was a great leader. well, well-deserved with Patrice Bergeron, uh, Carey Price. My goodness, what a goaltender. It's too bad he got hurt and he had to retire. he, uh,
00:42:04
Lando
He backboned Canada in the 2014 Winter Olympics. You know, it's too bad he didn't win a Stanley Cup. I mean, Montreal kind of blew that as far as I'm concerned, that they had an all-star goaltender like him and they just couldn't get the players to play in front of him.
00:42:21
Lando
And it seemed it goes with Pekka Rene too, with Nashville. Nashville had an amazing goalie in Pekka Rene. Yeah. And they just couldn't get the players to play around him either. And they had pretty good defensemen in Ryan Suter and Shea Weber, but they couldn't keep them in Nashville either. But, I mean, as far as the two goaltenders go, I mean, those guys were awesome goaltenders and they were towers in the net.
00:42:51
Lando
So the amount of saves that they made, mean, it was phenomenal.
00:42:51
Leo Ernewein
i
00:42:54
Lando
Keith Kachuk. I, you know, say what you want about him if you want to go political.
00:42:59
Leo Ernewein
was gonna say the lesson better but i didn't if he was canadian i'd like him a lot more but because he's kind of played for the the opposition almost if you will
00:43:01
Lando
Yeah, yeah, exactly. But I mean, say what you want about him, about the political.
00:43:10
Lando
Yeah, yeah.
00:43:12
Lando
But.
00:43:12
Leo Ernewein
And then the way his sons have kind of grown up.
00:43:15
Leo Ernewein
I still like Matt Puchuk a lot more, even though the way he left Calgary wasn't that great.
00:43:19
Lando
Yeah, oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah.
00:43:21
Leo Ernewein
But think Brady is the flawed.
00:43:22
Lando
But, I mean, Keith Kachuk, boy, oh, boy. Yeah, exactly.
00:43:26
Leo Ernewein
I don't know why this is keep coming up to Brady. This is about his dad. This is nothing to do with Brady.
00:43:30
Lando
Okay, let's stop it right there. No more about his sons. But, yeah, Keith Kachuk, he was – exactly.
00:43:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. No more Brady slander. Yeah.
00:43:37
Lando
No more Brady Slider. Keith Kachuk was a hard, hard-nosed player. He was so tough to play against. I remember with him playing in St. Louis.
00:43:46
Lando
I mean, his rough and tough style, his goal scoring. mean, he played hard and he was one of the better American-born players in that generation. So, I mean, he's well, well-deserved.
00:43:59
Lando
Brian Burke, he won a Stanley Cup building an amazing Anaheim Ducks team in 2007. I mean, he brought, he, Anaheim was kind of that up and coming team.
00:44:11
Lando
He brought, you know, they, they brought, you brought in Scott, Scott, Scott Niedermeyer.
00:44:13
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, he brought like Chris Pronger to the team and Scott Niedemar.
00:44:18
Lando
He managed,
00:44:18
Leo Ernewein
He brought in, drafted Getzlaff and Corey Perry, didn't he?
00:44:22
Lando
Corey Perry.
00:44:23
Lando
Yeah, he did. Yeah. I mean, they, they had a lot of up and coming players coming up and they were fun to watch and they were big.
00:44:23
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:44:28
Leo Ernewein
That team was fun to watch. Yeah.
00:44:32
Lando
That was taught. That was the kind of the change of the guard in the NHL was you went big. That was kind of the big and skill. And that was the, and Anaheim in 2007, they built a pretty darn good team.
00:44:45
Lando
And was the backbone of that. Now, unfortunately you can do it in Toronto.
00:44:48
Leo Ernewein
Isn't Timu Solani and Paul Correa on that team as well?
00:44:51
Lando
Paul Correa was not, but Timo Solani was.
00:44:54
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, Paul Correa wasn't. He left by then, I think, right? Yeah.
00:44:57
Lando
Yeah, he did. He was playing at, I can't remember if he was playing in, he did, way before the first lockout.
00:45:00
Leo Ernewein
Did he play for Colorado?
00:45:05
Lando
He did.
00:45:06
Leo Ernewein
Oh, so this is way, yeah, this way after.
00:45:06
Lando
played with, yeah, Paul Correa and Timo Solani played with Colorado for one year to try to win a Stanley Cup before the lockout, and it didn't work.
00:45:08
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:45:14
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:45:15
Lando
Yeah.
00:45:15
Leo Ernewein
And then Solani ended up on the Ducks. Gotcha.
00:45:18
Lando
Back with the Ducks, yeah. He went back to the Ducks.
00:45:20
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:45:20
Lando
And then Paul Correa, think he went to Nashville, I believe.
00:45:21
Leo Ernewein
Right. He did.
00:45:25
Lando
And that's kind of where he kind of finished his career off. So, yeah, yeah.
00:45:29
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. And then you got Brian Burke in the builder category too. Oh, you were just talking about Brian Burke.
00:45:36
Lando
was just talking about Brian Burke.
00:45:36
Leo Ernewein
Dirt. Yeah, there's no, sorry.
00:45:37
Lando
Yeah, we were, yeah.
00:45:38
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:45:39
Lando
Yeah.
00:45:39
Leo Ernewein
I will add in this here about Cindy Curley, a pioneer kind of for Team USA in the late 80s, early 90s, three silver medals at Women's World Hockey Championships.
00:45:50
Leo Ernewein
At the first Women's World Hockey Championships in 1990, she had 11 goals, 12 assists, 23 points. And how many games you think that was in, Landon?
00:45:59
Lando
Oh man, wait, wait.
00:46:00
Leo Ernewein
Just off the top your head, give me number. 23 points.
00:46:04
Lando
I want to say...
00:46:05
Leo Ernewein
record that stands today, so I'll let you know it's hard. It's a record. That's not why she's in.
00:46:11
Lando
going to...
00:46:12
Leo Ernewein
He's a good player is why she's in, but that goes to show how much he's in.
00:46:14
Lando
Yeah. Around 1,000 games, I want to say.
00:46:18
Leo Ernewein
23 points. That's it. Not 1,000 games. Come on, man.
00:46:22
Lando
I thought you said games. I'm sorry. So points-wise.
00:46:25
Leo Ernewein
No.
00:46:26
Lando
Okay, sorry.
00:46:27
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, and in a tournament at the Women's World Hockey Championship. So it's like the IIHF World Juniors or not World Juniors.
00:46:33
Lando
Right, right. Okay.
00:46:34
Leo Ernewein
It's like the IIHF Hockey Championship, World Hockey.
00:46:34
Lando
Sorry, I thought you said games.
00:46:39
Leo Ernewein
How many games did you say?
00:46:41
Lando
23. Oh, 1,000. said roughly around 1,000.
00:46:43
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, 23 points. How many games is my question.
00:46:46
Lando
No?
00:46:48
Leo Ernewein
No, Landon.
00:46:50
Leo Ernewein
Nobody's going to average 0.0000 points per game. For a record, buddy. For a record. 23 points in five games.
00:47:03
Leo Ernewein
11 goals, 12 assists in five games.
00:47:03
Lando
Oh.
00:47:08
Lando
Honestly, that's the record.
00:47:08
Leo Ernewein
That's the record. Not a thousand.
00:47:11
Lando
Oh.
00:47:13
Leo Ernewein
It's all good.
00:47:14
Lando
Oh.
00:47:15
Leo Ernewein
It's all good. I don't think you understood what I was saying, but it's fine.
00:47:18
Lando
Not quite, but no, I did not.
00:47:22
Lando
Yeah.
00:47:24
Leo Ernewein
She's a decorated champion, so I didn't know a lot about her, too, but I figured because we were talking about her, I had to bring up something about her champion.
00:47:30
Lando
Yeah, for sure. We got to throw her in there.
00:47:32
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. We also got four coaching hires last two weeks. You know, lots of stuff. Peter Laviolette with the Kings. Jim Hiller. Hiller? Is that how you say it? With the Kings is now back in Toronto.
00:47:42
Lando
Yep.
00:47:45
Leo Ernewein
Mike Babcock, obviously, with the Oilers after the NHL completed their investigation on him. And DJ Smith, who was the interim head coach for the Kings this past season and the assistant head coach in Las Vegas,
00:47:58
Leo Ernewein
Wait, where is DJ Smith now? Because wasn't he in Ottawa?
00:48:02
Lando
So he did coach in Ottawa. He got let go by – got let go when Travis Green is now in Ottawa.
00:48:11
Leo Ernewein
Right.
00:48:11
Lando
He got hired as assistant coach with Jim Hiller L.A.
00:48:16
Leo Ernewein
In LA and now he's in Vegas.
00:48:18
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:48:19
Lando
And so Jim Hiller got fired this past season. DJ Smith was in L.A. and he took over as an interim coach.
00:48:29
Lando
And now DJ Smith is now going to assistant coach with Mike Babcock in Edmonton.
00:48:33
Leo Ernewein
assistant. Okay.
00:48:35
Lando
Does that make sense? Does that make sense?
00:48:36
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I see. And then John Torrella not coming back for the Golden Knights. So Ryan Craig from the Henderson Silver Knights who worked with Kelly McCurman in the past with the Brandon Wheat Kings.
00:48:49
Leo Ernewein
He'll be the head coach of the Vegas Golden Knights, correct? That's Ryan Craig.
00:48:53
Lando
That is correct. Yep. Yep.
00:48:55
Leo Ernewein
And then where is Kelly McCurman and getting promoted at all? Or where's Kelly in this?
00:49:00
Lando
So Kelly McCrimmon is the GM for the Vegas Golden Knights. So don't, he does.
00:49:04
Leo Ernewein
I see. That's the eye with it.
00:49:05
Lando
Yeah.
00:49:07
Leo Ernewein
Okay. Right.
00:49:08
Lando
Yeah.
00:49:09
Leo Ernewein
He was... Yeah. No, sorry. I'm getting his name confused with the guy who left Colorado to go to Nashville. What was his name?
00:49:19
Lando
Oh.
00:49:22
Leo Ernewein
Chris McFarlane?
00:49:24
Lando
Oh yeah. Chris McFarland. Yes. Yes.
00:49:26
Lando
I see what you're saying.
00:49:26
Leo Ernewein
I don't know why I thought it was the same as Kelly McCrimmon.
00:49:28
Leo Ernewein
It's just the Mick in that that...
00:49:29
Lando
Oh.
00:49:31
Leo Ernewein
that kind of sparked some, some anyways, really hard for me always to remember GM names because it seems like seat of moving chairs. Usually sometimes same with coaches, but not so much.
00:49:41
Lando
Yes, I see what you mean.
00:49:46
Leo Ernewein
Anyways. Do you, do you like any of those? I mean, think we were talking last week that we saw that the Babcock one was probably going to come through.
00:49:56
Leo Ernewein
What, what are your thoughts on all those hires there, Landon?
00:49:59
Lando
Excuse me. So, yeah, you know what? Say what you want about Mike Babcock. I know that there's a lot of opinions about him in the past and what players liked about him, what they like about him. You know, I know we talked about this. I'm not going to get into much of it.
00:50:15
Lando
You know, all the players were, you know, were asking apparently and talked to by the Oilers what they thought about having a guy like Mike Babcock on their team.
00:50:25
Lando
and they were all unanimously for it. So what are you supposed to say? If they're for it and they want a guy like him to help him win next year or this upcoming year, what are you supposed to say?
00:50:37
Lando
I mean, we can all...
00:50:37
Leo Ernewein
If that's what the greatest player in the world thinks he needs for his team to take the next step, then how are you going argue that?
00:50:43
Lando
Exactly. So what are you supposed to say? mean, we can all sit on the silence and have our opinions about the guy.
00:50:46
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
00:50:49
Lando
What are you supposed to say, right? So, I mean, risky move.
00:50:51
Leo Ernewein
Risky move, though. Risky move.
00:50:55
Lando
I'm really intrigued. What I'm really intrigued to is how Ryan Craig is going to coach the Vegas Golden Knights after their Stanley Cup run.
Henderson Silver Knights AHL Performance
00:51:04
Lando
I know the Henderson Silver Knights had a very good year in the American Hockey League. I think they were in the Western Conference Final, and they lost to... Who they lose to? I forget. Anyways, it doesn't matter. But anyways, he's... apparently he's a really good coach and it'll be, I think, I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how his coaching style is going to change compared to John Terrell. I do know that the circus of the whole stupidity of media availability is going to stop, which what that'll be. That'll be a nice, nice change. So I'm intrigued to see what a young coach like Ryan Craig is going to do with a very veteran team in the, in the Vegas cold
Impact of Ryan Craig's Coaching on Vegas
00:51:44
Lando
nights. But,
00:51:45
Lando
They spoke highly of the guys.
00:51:45
Leo Ernewein
What do you think Jim Hiller in Toronto?
00:51:46
Lando
So we'll see. were you going say?
00:51:50
Leo Ernewein
Because I know a lot about him. I don't know.
00:51:52
Lando
You don't know a lot about it? Okay, so Jimmy Hiller was the assistant coach with Mike Babcock in Toronto.
00:51:54
Leo Ernewein
No, not really.
00:52:00
Lando
This was back when, yeah, so let me, so Jimmy Hiller was an assistant coach with the Leafs.
00:52:01
Leo Ernewein
Oh.
00:52:07
Lando
He was there when Mitch Marner, Austin Matthews, William Nylander, And Morgan Riley were just starting out on the team. So he is very familiar with all those players on the team. Now, it's unfortunate that Morgan Riley may or may not be there. But Jim Hiller, don't know. A lot of people said L.A. that they were lot of players on the Kings were not.
00:52:35
Lando
happy with how he, happy with his coaching style. And maybe his coaching style just didn't fit with the roster that the Kings had. But I think, I think he's kind like Babcock. I think he's kind of something that I think he's an X's and O's coach that I think it's something that Toronto definitely needs to, and he's got some familiarity with the players. So,
00:53:00
Lando
Now, whether this will resonate into a playoff spot, we'll see because I think this is a dying roster. But that's where Jim Hiller comes from, man. So, yeah.
00:53:09
Leo Ernewein
Interesting. Okay. So not sure, sir, if I'm so high on the pick or the higher either.
00:53:11
Lando
Yeah.
00:53:17
Leo Ernewein
We'll see if, We'll see in a couple of years or maybe a year, right? Like it's a changing guard. Sometimes, sometimes only last a year.
Carolina Hurricanes Stanley Cup Victory
00:53:25
Leo Ernewein
A quick reaction, even though it's a little bit older, because we got to kind of talk about a Carolina Hurricanes who beat the Vegas Golden Knights in six games, the NHL Stanley Cup finals, Conn Smythe winner, Jordan Stahl, the,
00:53:37
Leo Ernewein
Thank God, not Mitch Marner. Sorry, I didn't say that. Jordan Stahl was elite in that series. Oldest Conn Smythe winner, I think he was 37 or something like that. I'm pretty sure he had a goal in every game.
00:53:50
Lando
He did.
00:53:53
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. What's your reaction to the Carolina Hurricanes winning their first Stanley Cup final in 20 years?
00:54:00
Lando
Well, I have to honestly say I was very impressed with Carolina. actually did not think that they would do what they were going to do. didn't even pick them to win the Stanley Cup.
00:54:09
Lando
didn't even pick them even be in the Stanley Cup final just based on their history. But, I mean, from start to finish of this year, man, they had, you know, they were the first place in the Eastern Conference. They dominated Ottawa.
00:54:24
Lando
They dominated Philadelphia. They made Montreal look what I thought Montreal was actually going to challenge them, way more than what Montreal did. And they steamrolled past Montreal.
00:54:35
Lando
Now, they had a little trouble with Vegas, but they also wore Vegas out too. And I think what's happened in the NHL too, man, is you watch what Florida's done.
00:54:48
Lando
You watch what Carolina's done. You watch how Tampa Bay and Colorado have won the Stanley Cup within the last four years. It's that in-your-face, speed, grinding-out type of hockey that seems to be winning the Stanley Cup. And that's what happened with Carolina. They have a very good team.
00:55:06
Lando
They picked a lot of no-name players on their – a lot of no-names or not wannabes on their team. And Rod Brindamore coached perfection.
00:55:17
Lando
And they got the bet. He got the best out of all his players and they steamrolled at the latter half of that Stanley Cup final. So Congratulations to the Carolina Hurricanes.
NHL Strategic Player Management
00:55:28
Lando
Well deserved. As far as Jordan Stahl, mean, how can you argue about the Consummate trophy when he scores a goal in the first five games of the Stanley Cup Final? He was lights out. I mean, he even, John Tortorella even said in the Stanley Cup Final media availability that Jordan Stahl is killing him in front of net. And he absolutely did. He was one of the reasons why they won the Stanley Cup. So congratulations to the Carolina Hurricanes.
00:55:53
Lando
Your take, Leo, what'd you think?
00:56:03
Leo Ernewein
And it's too bad because I was going to be a fan. And then they started pulling this Mark Stone stuff and LTIR and all that jazz. And ever since then, I'm like, just because you're allowed to doesn't mean you can't or doesn't mean you should.
00:56:15
Leo Ernewein
Anyways.
00:56:19
Leo Ernewein
Yep.
00:56:20
Lando
So everybody's mad at Vegas for doing that, but who's the team that started doing this? It was Tampa Bay. It wasn't Vegas. Tampa Bay started that.
00:56:28
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it was Tampa. You're right with Victor Hedman.
00:56:31
Lando
Yes. Well, Hedman, Kucherov, Stamkos, right?
00:56:34
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, you're right. And I don't hate them as much when I should.
00:56:37
Lando
So you should.
00:56:40
Leo Ernewein
I think it's because I don't view them as much of a threat as I used to, even though I probably still should.
00:56:44
Lando
Fair enough, I get it. But anyways, to your point on this, now we
00:56:48
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, I don't know. I just feel like with Vegas, it was super predictable. I think Tampa only did it like once or twice, right?
00:56:57
Leo Ernewein
I
New York Knicks NBA Championship
00:56:57
Leo Ernewein
don't know. But yeah, once, once Tampa did it, Vegas is like, Hey, wait a second. We have an opportunity. Why not?
00:57:02
Lando
can file.
00:57:03
Leo Ernewein
And not going lie.
00:57:03
Lando
Yeah.
00:57:04
Leo Ernewein
If I was playing a video game franchise and I had that opportunity, I'd be doing it to stack.
00:57:08
Lando
Me, I, yep.
00:57:08
Leo Ernewein
It might be like that. I'd be going back to back to back, baby. Anyways. Yeah, props to the hurricanes. We're going to move on to the NBA here because we're getting kind of long and I'm hungry.
00:57:19
Leo Ernewein
The NBA is making up as well.
00:57:20
Lando
Fair enough.
00:57:21
Leo Ernewein
We'll dive into the NBA final. Spurs blew a 29-point lead and a 16-point lead in the Knicks comeback games in both finals. What was that game? Four and five.
00:57:33
Lando
Yep.
00:57:33
Leo Ernewein
I think the Knicks beat them 4-1 in the series to capture their first Lerio B since, like, what, the mid-80s, even earlier than that, want to say?
00:57:41
Lando
70s.
00:57:42
Leo Ernewein
70s, yeah. So props to New York was going wild. I've seen some of those parades. It looked like, because the World Cup was going it looked like what other countries would celebrate when they won the World Cup, you know?
00:57:53
Leo Ernewein
Like, it was... packed to the nines with people standing on all sorts of street poles and stuff like that. Just hilarious. So what do you think about that there with the Knicks winning?
00:58:06
Lando
Well, you know what? I'm not a New York fan at all, but I was rooting for the Knicks because they needed to end their drought. I mean, they've had heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak after heartbreak, and they've had painful years too.
00:58:20
Lando
You know, New York hasn't had a lot cheer about within the last 20 years other than, you know, winning, you know, two Super Bowls, but they really haven't had a chance. They really haven't had a lot of winning in New York.
00:58:31
Leo Ernewein
fluky Super Bowls.
00:58:33
Lando
Fluky Super Bowls. I'm still mad about that.
00:58:34
Leo Ernewein
Fluky. We have to put that there.
00:58:36
Leo Ernewein
Those were bullcrap.
00:58:37
Lando
I'm still mad about that, by the way.
00:58:39
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, I know you are as a Patriots fan.
00:58:39
Lando
too. Yeah.
00:58:42
Leo Ernewein
I like the way the Knicks built their roster to win
Giannis Antetokounmpo Trade Discussion
00:58:44
Leo Ernewein
this championship.
00:58:45
Leo Ernewein
It wasn't through the draft, which is what you kind of traditionally see, especially now with the NBA changing their rules that you can't have like three first round picks in the top five consecutively something like that.
00:58:57
Leo Ernewein
which i think is stupid because this that's how the spurs got there they had dylan harper victor wambiniana and stefan castle all in the top five gifted them basically some of them weren't even their picks they were just they traded for them or something like that some of them were their picks when they were completely terrible but you know it's like they were terrible for a year or two and then they get these awesome picks they're like the patriots of the nba and sometimes it's kind of sickening even though
00:59:24
Leo Ernewein
Even though I kind of like to see a small market like that thrive and build winning culture and stuff like that, I still was almost rooting for New York, even though I knew that it was going to be a super annoying summer after the next one.
00:59:29
Lando
and they have thrived they have thrived
00:59:40
Lando
yeah yeah well
00:59:41
Leo Ernewein
I just didn't want to see the NBA rewards. even though the Spurs are rewarded. And Stefan Castle and Dylan Harper and, I guess, Wemby are some of my favorite. They're probably three of my five favorite players in the league.
00:59:54
Leo Ernewein
And I'm still not a fan of that team. I was a fan of those players when they were in college. And I told myself that no matter where they were going, I was going to be a fan. When they got picked by the Spurs, I was like, damn it!
01:00:06
Leo Ernewein
it's not like it's they were picked by the Clippers or something like that but like at least I could have got behind cheering for the Clippers I have to cheer for somebody that sucked I can't cheer for a dynasty it's not fair it's not right but and then there was a huge massive uh Trade that happened in the NBA as well with the Bucs, right? In the Miami Heat, Giannis Antetokounmpo and Bobby Portis get sent to the Heat in exchange.
01:00:32
Leo Ernewein
The Bucs receive Tyler Hero, Kalil Ware, Jami Jaquez Jr., and some draft picks going the other way. don't know. There was reports that Boston offered Jalen Brown up one for one.
01:00:45
Leo Ernewein
for Giannis and I would have taken that, but maybe Giannis had a bit more say and said, you know, trade me to South beach or wherever they play in Miami. I don't know if it's South beach, but yeah.
01:00:54
Lando
It's Miami. Yeah, it's right in Miami.
01:00:57
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. But, it's like Biscay Boulevard or something like that.
01:01:00
Lando
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:01
Leo Ernewein
Something like that. But, I don't, I, I don't like the return for
Star Player Influence in the NBA
01:01:07
Leo Ernewein
Milwaukee. Do you?
01:01:08
Lando
No, I don't. I don't like... Yeah, I don't. I think they're taking a huge step backwards. Like, yeah, I don't... I think Milwaukee was just like, hey, we're done with this circus with Giannis.
01:01:20
Lando
I get it.
01:01:21
Leo Ernewein
It's every season circus.
01:01:22
Lando
Yeah, yeah.
01:01:23
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. Cause he was going to be a free agent soon. Wasn't he?
01:01:26
Lando
He was, yeah. I think after that, whatever contract that they signed. So, I mean.
01:01:31
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. It might've even been this year and they were like, let's trade them before the rights expired or something like that.
01:01:35
Lando
Exactly, yeah. So, it's just really funny.
01:01:38
Lando
But what is it with everybody going to Florida? Especially Miami.
01:01:42
Leo Ernewein
it's, it's, it's state taxes for sure.
01:01:45
Lando
Oh, I think it's just bizarre.
01:01:45
Leo Ernewein
It's something to do with it. It's, it's,
01:01:46
Lando
Yeah.
01:01:48
Leo Ernewein
It's media coverage. It's, it's, it's living life quality. It's the quality of life right now is just better for if you have a lot of money down there than it is if you have a lot of money in Michigan or if you have a lot of money in Wisconsin.
01:01:55
Lando
Yeah.
01:02:02
Lando
And Wisconsin or whatever, yeah.
01:02:04
Leo Ernewein
Exactly.
01:02:06
Lando
One thing I wanted to add real quick, man. The reason why... One of the things that... Why Giannis Adekunbo actually did get traded. He was pissed that...
01:02:18
Lando
Damien Lillard, who they picked up from the Portland Trailblazers. They signed him to a...
01:02:22
Leo Ernewein
Like last year something that, right?
01:02:23
Lando
Yeah, last year. Yeah, they traded him from last year.
01:02:25
Leo Ernewein
Two years ago. Two years ago might have even been.
01:02:27
Lando
Two years ago. And they signed him to a long-term contract. And... He was mad about that. It's like, why are you giving him money? aren't you giving me money? Or that, you know, I think he's being little selfish, but.
01:02:39
Leo Ernewein
Yeah. I think he just finesses – I think the NBA has a player movement problem and player empowerment problem where they can – go up to their boss and say, hey, trade me to Miami. I want to trade to Miami.
01:02:52
Lando
Yeah, why it's starting to filter in the NHL too.
01:02:54
Leo Ernewein
And I mean, think the NHL has that issue as well.
01:02:56
Lando
Yeah, exactly.
01:02:57
Lando
I just said that. Yeah, yeah.
01:02:58
Leo Ernewein
I think the NHL has that issue too, where it's like, okay, I think there should be a rule where it's like, okay, if you remove your no trade clause, you can't pick the teams that you're going to sign for, even though it's like, okay, I'll just be a rental then.
01:03:14
Leo Ernewein
I don't know the answer to it, man. I don't know. It's tough, right?
01:03:19
Lando
Yeah.
01:03:19
Leo Ernewein
There's a lot...
01:03:21
Leo Ernewein
I don't know. It's tough. And I'll get into it, too, with that Brendan Sorsby stuff of the NCAA that I want to talk about the end. But I don't know. I think the NBA has that issue. So does the NHL. I don't think it's as bad as the NBA because star power in the I don't think it's as bad in the NHL, I should say, because star power in the NBA is like...
01:03:41
Leo Ernewein
man, the bucks are really hampered and they probably have been hampered for like the last three years evaluating trade packages and being like, this isn't shit. This isn't worth it. This isn't, this isn't.
01:03:49
Lando
Yeah. Yeah. I know what you're saying.
01:03:50
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:03:51
Lando
Yeah.
01:03:52
Leo Ernewein
But do you have anything else to add on that or should we jump over to the CFL here?
01:03:56
Lando
Well, really, really quick. Yeah. Like I, I just, yeah, I think, I think the NBA needs to clamp down on this. Cause I think that these, these star players have, are having way too much say where they want to go and how they want to go and,
01:04:10
Lando
and then he's no trade. I think they really need to hamper this down. just, yeah. And this trade just shows it that I'm not happy where I'm at. I want to get traded to here or here. And, and it's, it's just, it's not, it's not fair to the young, to the markets who could really give a player for player like,
01:04:27
Lando
know what Boston was going to do or whatever. But yeah, I just, I saw this trade. I'm like, I mean, as massive as it is, I don't, it's, I don't think Milwaukee got enough to be honest with you. But I mean, I mean, time will tell to see what, what will happen.
01:04:44
Lando
One thing I real quick to finish off the NBA Brunson from the New York Knicks, he was lights out and that's why they won the NBA championship too.
Jalen Brunson's Finals Performance
01:04:54
Lando
That's why I wanted to add. Oh, he did. He was lights out, man.
01:04:54
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, didn't he have like 45 points, 44 points or something like that?
01:04:58
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:04:59
Lando
That was one of the best basketball finals I've ever watched, even though it was five games. The crazy comebacks, how hard both teams were playing, it was phenomenal watch.
01:05:13
Leo Ernewein
I can't believe the Spurs choked, I think it was game four. Man, when I was watching it, I was like, oh, this is nice.
01:05:18
Lando
29 points. Ouch. I was watching it, too.
01:05:22
Leo Ernewein
I was like, nice. The series is getting back closer.
01:05:25
Lando
Over. Yeah. And then I looked at my dad because my dad and I were both watching this.
01:05:32
Lando
And I said, I looked over and they were getting down to about, I think it was about 15 points. And I said to my dad, I said, look out, I think the Knicks are going to win. And he's like, no, I said, no, they're going to win.
01:05:42
Leo Ernewein
Wow.
01:05:43
Lando
The Knicks are starting to come on.
01:05:44
Leo Ernewein
I was like, yeah, the series is tight.
01:05:45
Lando
You could see it. You could see it. And I said, you could see it.
01:05:48
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:05:49
Lando
Yeah.
01:05:53
Lando
yeah
01:05:54
Leo Ernewein
Just list the games or whatever. And seeing that the NBA Finals is on and I'm seeing the score and I'm like, all right, so it'll be 2-2 by tomorrow morning. And I go to open up my thing tomorrow morning and I'm saying it's 2-2 and I open up the thing and I'm like, they lost?
01:06:06
Lando
yeah
01:06:11
Leo Ernewein
They lost?
01:06:12
Leo Ernewein
Oh my God. So I had to like read, write all something out about how they lost something like that.
01:06:19
Leo Ernewein
Oh yeah. I just, yeah, that blew me away.
01:06:22
Lando
That blew me away too. It was fun to watch though.
01:06:24
Leo Ernewein
But Landon, yeah, it was, it was a good series and I was happy with the NBA finals. Landon, you want to talk a little bit about the
BC Lions Games in Kelowna
01:06:31
Leo Ernewein
CFL as well? Quickly folks. We'll talk about the CFL lots of summer, so don't worry.
01:06:36
Leo Ernewein
But you wanted to share something that unique that's coming up in the CFL the next two weeks. Yeah.
01:06:41
Lando
Yes, so what's coming up here is Touchdown Kelowna. So what that means is the BC Lions are going to be hosting the Calgary Stampeders this weekend on Saturday, and they're also going be hosting the Edmonton Elks next weekend.
01:06:58
Lando
It's part of Touchdown Kelowna. They're building a temporary stadium in Kelowna, which I'm going to be attending.
01:07:06
Leo Ernewein
Is that because they got kicked out of BC Place for the World Cup?
01:07:09
Lando
They did for the World Cup.
01:07:10
Lando
Yep, that's why. That's why.
01:07:12
Lando
Yeah.
01:07:12
Leo Ernewein
Good for them for being a good sport about it, I guess.
01:07:15
Lando
Well, for sure. And I've seen pictures of how the stadium's going be set up in Kelowna.
01:07:16
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:07:20
Lando
It actually looks really cool. They're making the most of it. I think they're almost sold out. And it'll be neat to go to another place and watch the Calgary Stampeders.
01:07:31
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, it's a good opportunity for colonians, or you would say them.
01:07:33
Lando
Yeah. Yeah. Colonians, and I think they are called the BC Lions for a reason, even though they do play in Vancouver.
01:07:42
Leo Ernewein
Amen.
01:07:43
Lando
You know what? They're called British Columbia for reason. They're still playing in BC. They're just playing in a different location. And I'm really intrigued to see what this will be like.
01:07:52
Leo Ernewein
That's a great point, man. That's a great point.
01:07:54
Lando
So anyways, watch on TV because I might be, I'm in one of the end zones, first row.
01:08:01
Lando
So watch for me if I watch for me on TV.
01:08:02
Leo Ernewein
Oh, you're going to go, eh? Sweet, man.
01:08:04
Lando
I am going to go.
01:08:04
Leo Ernewein
That's awesome.
01:08:05
Lando
Yeah.
Brendan Sorsby's Legal Battles in Sports
01:08:06
Leo Ernewein
Before we wrap it up here, I just want to give you guys kind of an update on the Texas Tech contact and the Soresby situation.
01:08:09
Lando
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:08:13
Leo Ernewein
So he had a court injunction that was protecting him. And that just kind of completely collapsed. And then this turned out to be like a kind of turned into a political war. The Texas Attorney General threatened to sue the Big 12,
01:08:30
Leo Ernewein
which is the conference that kind of said, okay, we're going to suspend him if they punish the university. And of course, the Texas Attorney General had attended that university when he went to university. So of course, he was going threaten to sue them. While Utah Governor Spencer Cox and rival states threatened their own lawsuits and demanding Texas Tech be sanctioned.
01:08:52
Leo Ernewein
The Big 12, which is the conference that they play in, even filed a federal lawsuit to bypass the local judge that allowed him to play in the first place. So it's just a giant mess, right, with all these politicians getting involved, threatening lawsuits. Ultimately, Texas Tech billionaire booster, they kind of broke, the Brewsters broke under the pressure and announced Sourceby won't play. So he's not going to play for them this year.
01:09:19
Leo Ernewein
So everybody's like, oh, okay, good. And then so he officially, like the player dropped his lawsuit. He lost $6 million in NIM money that he was supposed to get from college this year.
01:09:31
Leo Ernewein
And then so he's like, I'm going to go to the NFL supplemental draft. And he like announced that like two days after his lawsuit dropped that he's going to announce do that. And the deadline for the NFL supplemental draft was like three days away. So it was kind of like really short notice.
01:09:47
Leo Ernewein
It was the only player that said he was going to submit that. And. that's essentially like another draft for players that have kind of gotten like legal trouble and stuff like that, where it's kind of like a draft that you've never seen before where teams will bid picks.
01:10:03
Leo Ernewein
So it'll start with a seventh rounder. And if somebody bids a seventh rounder, then teams will get asked to anybody want to bid a sixth rounder. And if anybody bids a sixth rounder, then if anybody asks somebody will bid a fifth rounder and so on and so on until it goes up to the first. Right. And I think the, the,
01:10:22
Leo Ernewein
the kind of the order's completely random, but they hadn't had one of those drafts in like three or four years, not since like 2021 or something like that. And it's usually for players that got, yeah, in trouble. Like Terrell prior had some legal issues at Ohio state. I'm trying to think of other players that were famous for the NFL that, uh, Josh Gordon, uh, another one that got picked in the supplemental draft.
01:10:48
Leo Ernewein
But the NFL said, no, we don't want you. It'll be a distraction for training camps. They denied... his request to enter the supplemental draft.
01:10:57
Leo Ernewein
So he's just basically out of college football, out of the NFL, out of money, probably going to have to apply for a job on LinkedIn, you know, put the fries in the bag kind of stuff, bro, which is exactly where it should be. So it's sort of like a full circle moment that, wow, even though the world of college football is completely messy and, know,
01:11:19
Leo Ernewein
Brendan Soresby was going to even threaten to sue saying, you can't deny my right to enter the draft because that infringes the collective bargaining agreement or whatever. don't even know if it does, but I think his threats of lawsuit have now been kind of proven to be full of bull hokey.
01:11:37
Leo Ernewein
So it's finally like punishment almost came through, which a lot of people I don't think were expecting, especially in college football.
01:11:47
Leo Ernewein
So that's a kind of a nice cherry on top of the whole situation. I think the system, I don't know if necessarily worked to protect the game, but it kind of showed how messy sports laws have become.
01:12:02
Leo Ernewein
So I don't know, man. It's opening a can of worms too.
01:12:07
Lando
uh-huh
01:12:07
Leo Ernewein
Yeah, but I just wanted to kind of put a cherry on top. He's not playing football at college next year for Texas Tech. He's not playing in the NFL. He'll probably flipping fries like you and I's
01:12:22
Leo Ernewein
regular Joe job as is. Watch him get some sort of incredible financial job, just cushion, something like that. Not that it really matters. Why should I care what kind of job he gets?
01:12:32
Leo Ernewein
Anyways, the fact that he's not sullying the game by potentially betting on his team or against his team and doing some Pete Rose stuff.
01:12:42
Leo Ernewein
So that's the end of that. Yeah, so...
01:12:44
Lando
Awesome. Yeah, neat, neat. I, I, everything that you talked about, kind of had little bit of an idea what was going on. but you, you explained it a little bit more because I, I had trouble understanding some of the, some of the hogwash.
01:12:58
Leo Ernewein
like the lingo the used right is kind of yeah
01:12:59
Lando
Yeah, yeah, yeah. The lingual use. So I'm glad you cleared all that up. I'm going to real quick. Basically. The karma came back at And I'm glad to see that happen.
01:13:11
Leo Ernewein
yeah you can't you can't do what you did and not expect consequences amen and with college football there were so many people they weren't doing necessarily anything wrong, but they were sort of going, oh, well, COVID, I couldn't play during COVID, so that should count as an extra year. And the NCAA was going, no, that's against our rules. And then they were going to like local judge who graduated from their university and going, that's against this guy's rights to earn or whatever, because there's NIL money involved. So they would somehow circumvent it. So everybody thought that this was just going another case. And all sudden,
01:13:46
Leo Ernewein
you would have people that could gamble and, you know, yeah. So it's nice to see that finally foot has been put down.
01:13:54
Lando
Yes.
01:13:54
Leo Ernewein
End of it. Yeah. Anyways, what a show though, Landon. We talked a ton about it today, but you know, we're running out of time and I don't you guys want to listen for two hours.
01:13:59
Lando
Oh, man.
01:14:05
Leo Ernewein
So Landon, I know you'll share more in your takes the next little bit here in the coming days, but I wanted thank our listeners for listening to us again. And Landon, if you have any shout outs that you want to share to someone today.
01:14:17
Lando
I do. So I want to listen. want to make a shout out to I can't remember if I did this to to this person. But if I forgot, I'm sorry.
01:14:26
Leo Ernewein
Well, shout out to Sweet.
01:14:27
Lando
Yeah. Anyways, my shout out to is going to be to my cousin Travis, who's in Medicine Hat. He listens to us on occasion.
01:14:36
Lando
And I just want to make a shout out to my cousin Travis to say thank you for listening. And He's a gym teacher, so he's very well equipped to all the sports, and he's probably very happy to hear that you talked about this Texas Tech thing.
01:14:45
Leo Ernewein
Yeah.
01:14:51
Leo Ernewein
Well, that's cool.
01:14:53
Leo Ernewein
I love that. Shout out, Travis.
01:14:54
Lando
Yeah.
01:14:55
Leo Ernewein
Go Tigers. Go Gavin McKenna. Let's see him put up 90 goals with the Maple Leafs this year, right? But probably just kidding.
01:15:02
Lando
We'll see. We'll see.
01:15:04
Leo Ernewein
90 goals, incredible. Thanks for tuning
01:15:07
Lando
Thanks, guys. Take care.
01:15:13
Leo Ernewein
And noise.
01:15:14
Lando
Alright, dude. I'll let you go,