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41 ½: Sequencing for Shenanigans
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📢 🫨 zomg, it's a bonus mini-ep covering:
- High Voltage 🔌
- Kid Omega ☢️
- Cobra 🐍
- Sanctum Showdown 🪄
Credits:
- Cover art by Lauren
- Snap On This!! Theme by Ben
- YouTube thumbnail by Lauren’s kid, Reggi
Timestamps:
- 0:00:00 Intro
- 0:01:13 Kid Omega
- 0:06:55 Cobra
- 0:10:17 Sanctum Showdown
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Transcript
Introduction to the Bonus Episode
00:00:01
Speaker
Hey, y'all. It's Editor Lauren here. i This is 15 minutes that were cut from the most recent episode because we may have talked about a few things prematurely, um but should be okay to talk about them now.
00:00:14
Speaker
There's coverage for High Voltage, Kid Omega, Cobra, and Sanctum Showdown. um and I thought it was a fun conversation. So, little bonus episode from the same
High Voltage Mode and Kid Omega Discussion
00:00:25
Speaker
recording.
00:00:25
Speaker
There will still be ah full episode covering the next patch in OTA. uh later this week hope you enjoy
00:00:36
Speaker
um happy we have two more cards and they'll both be available in a high voltage overdrive which promises an epic twist um this is the third week of the season right second to last I don't know if it's a three or four week or a four or five week season. Oh, chaos ensues.
00:00:58
Speaker
um Anyway, we're getting a special high voltage mode where two cards are available. I hope that Overdrive, the epic twist, can can deliver because if you've listened before, you know none of us are huge fans of high voltage.
00:01:12
Speaker
Anyway, Kid Omega, ah Series 5 event card. 2-1, activate, destroy the next card you play this turn to gain its power.
00:01:26
Speaker
Ben? 4 out of 4. um This card is nuts. This card is nuts.
Strategic Potential of Kid Omega
00:01:33
Speaker
Like, you know, I think I might still have given it 4 out of 4 if it were just 2-1, activate, destroy the next card you play this turn.
00:01:43
Speaker
I think I might like that. Like, that's pretty good. The part where you get the power is ah wild. It's just wild because like you're already destroying that card for some... You're getting ahead somehow, whatever your nasty shit is that you're into. I don't know what you're doing, but like you're doing something, right? like the the whole like The point of this card is activate, destroy the next card you play. The fact that you get the power is just bonkers. Mm-hmm.
00:02:11
Speaker
okay I honestly don't know what to say about this card. like It's wild. like yeah It's going to make Elixir... This is the card that... This is the reason Elixir's bad. It's because this card sets him up so well.
Activate vs. On-Reveal Cards
00:02:25
Speaker
um I can't tell you how many times when I'm planning out cool clips or or some apprentice challenges that I want to destroy the next card I play. And since they changed Negasonic Teenage Warhead, the only way to do that is with a location or with one of Nico's spells.
00:02:40
Speaker
So I'm thrilled to have a reliable way to do that. But outside of my own selfish, silly clip hunting ways, I just think, yeah, this is so strong. You can play it with Nimrod. That's awesome. Destroy the Nimrod as soon as you play it.
00:02:55
Speaker
um Which, by the way, you could, because of the way Activate works, you could also have a Shuri in there happening at the same time. And then Kid Omega gets 12 power.
00:03:06
Speaker
Like, excuse me, what? thing is just...
00:03:11
Speaker
wow it's Of course, the activate's a little awkward, but this is the kind of activate card that's like Aranya, where it's like, this is one you might actually want to be activate.
00:03:23
Speaker
You might actually prefer it to be an activate than an on reveal because of the way it lets you sequence things. This is what activate cards should be. Yeah. Yeah, but once again, that means it's more telegraphed.
00:03:37
Speaker
You can't surprise people. It's telegraphed, but like, what are you going to do? It's telegraphed. Guardian, your kid Omega. Red Guardian, your kid Omega on turn three after you play in turn two.
00:03:49
Speaker
That's true. That's immediately what I'm doing. That is a worthy use of Red Guardian. am running Sam Wilson with the zero power shield. Ooh. going to now.
00:04:00
Speaker
Wow, that shield is going to be pretty... It is going to offer some protection now, huh? Won't it?
Cobra Card Rework and Viability
00:04:07
Speaker
That's such an interesting thing to think about. Yeah, i like that.
00:04:13
Speaker
Yeah, this card is so good.
00:04:17
Speaker
It's going to be super fun. can start playing my Madam Webs. You could destroy gigantic, like, you're going to build up a huge lane, kill it with Venom. Venom explodes.
00:04:29
Speaker
It's fine because Kid Omega is sitting in an armor lane. I don't It's a very cool card. I don't know what happens after that. I'm just like, this is a card that like adds something so new to the game that it's inspiring.
00:04:43
Speaker
You could just slot this into regular destroy, and it's it's just better. you don't you know I don't even think you need Elixir around. like just think This card is just such a high power level. Yeah, I agree. i I don't think you need Elixir at all. Elixir needs this card, but make a Kid Omega would be fine. good Okay, Rhi.
00:05:04
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, you both gave it four, so it's the same. But I will say you convinced me, because you know how low I am in Activate? I might have dropped him to a three for it. But you're right, that does just enable funky sequencing for shenanigans. like It's like the reason Elixir Activate was too good.
00:05:22
Speaker
like Yeah. Activate will be good for the same reasons. Yeah, you guys convinced me. Good job, you're both winners. I wish they'd figure out... how to do activate like this more not that it has to be this level of power but i want activate to be interesting and i want it to be on a card where i would prefer it to be yeah as opposed to like a way to nerf a card it feels like like with a too powerful ability
00:05:49
Speaker
And I mean, there there have been some examples where it's like, the activate's okay. You know, like a Scarlet Spider after I hit it with Nomura, or like Symbiote Spider-Man to time it, but like, he could also just not be an activate and be like, the next card you play here, he merges with. Yeah. I like, I find myself thinking a lot about Fanfei, and like, would I prefer if it were just a non-reveal? And I think maybe I would.
00:06:12
Speaker
But like, the activate is cool. Like, I don't know. i don't know. i love the Fanfei that we have. I'll say that. The surprise of things is a lot with me You know what mean? The benefit of move is like you don't know where the power is going to end up. Sometimes you don't know if they're going to Heimdall or not. I'm dull and things like Fanfei with activate. It's like, OK, well, I know what you're setting up for now and I can see whether I can account for that or not.
00:06:39
Speaker
I do very often find myself not activating Fanfei because sometimes it's just about the threat. it's just the Like not playing Heimdall sometimes. It's the jazz thing. It's about the Heimdall you don't play.
00:06:54
Speaker
hey ah Speaking of cards that why are they inactivate? You'd rather they'd be an on reveal. Oh my god. Series 4, Cobra. They reworked Cobra Activate. Destroy an enemy created card here.
00:07:14
Speaker
He didn't have to be an activate, folks. He could have been an on reveal. It would have been fine. Yeah, I'll take this one because it's just so obvious. You're going to play this card over Gorgon if your goal is to like counter created cards.
00:07:31
Speaker
ah And it's activate and it's like it's like he's 2-3. It's like, why would you ever put this in over literally anything else? I'm like... yeah I mean, not literally anything else, but like... no literally anything else. It's pretty close.
00:07:48
Speaker
It's so bad. It's like such a specific counter where there
Sanctum Showdown and Event Fatigue
00:07:53
Speaker
are better counter cards for the same cost. You know what I mean? ah Yeah. Yeah.
00:08:00
Speaker
Like, cause at least Gorgon will synergize with the Spectrum deck or something, you know? ah Yeah, what can you do proactively to synergize with Cobra? Uh, like... Generous Wolf.
00:08:15
Speaker
like You're gonna play Debris and then destroy it. There will be opportunities to get safe value with this card sometimes, like Monster Island. Yeah, it's the obvious one. yeah you can But like that's not a reason to play this card.
00:08:32
Speaker
Or the symbiote locations, like Clayton or Lady of Saints. Right, you can all, most cards have some very cool specific things you can do with it. The problem is you have a 12 card deck, you know what I mean? and So it's like the narrower, the fewer cool things one can do or the situations. Not to say that Cobra wouldn't have his moment.
00:08:54
Speaker
There is no deck where this is the 13th best card the deck. Like, this is just bad. Nowhere close to being under consideration for anything.
00:09:07
Speaker
Because now it's like, okay, you can play it early at least so it's on curve, but then they just know not to play their big, if you're trying to destroy one big specific... thought of one card it synergizes with.
00:09:23
Speaker
Okay. Luna Snow. Yeah. Yep, because you can you can play Luna on three and activate, and yep, that's very that's very clean and tidy and almost certainly the best thing to do with this card.
00:09:39
Speaker
Yeah, and certainly you would cut for like literally any other card in your Lunas, any Lunas Snowdeck you play. It's still not worth doing, but it's very clever.
00:09:51
Speaker
Poor Cobra. They reworked you and you didn't get any better. It's like you went to rehab and he came out like just like reeking of alcohol and you're like, oh, buddy. Oh, buddy. would rather have Electra in my deck.
00:10:06
Speaker
Even for the Luna Snow interaction. Yeah. I agree. Also, Electra variants, you know? Lots of reasons. variants? Nah. And then there no cards attached to it But right after high voltage overdrive We're getting a Sanctum showdown again Two events in the same season i don't know how to feel about that It's so much I can't grind anymore
Design and Engagement of Game Events
00:10:34
Speaker
I'm pretty excited For Sanctum to come back I had a lot of fun the first time It's the move player's paradise
00:10:41
Speaker
I love Sanctum. It's such a fun mode, but goodness gracious, like there is one day in between High Voltage and Sanctum Showdown. Wow. People are not going to enjoy that because I'm i'm the i'm unusual in my affection for Sanctum Showdown.
00:10:58
Speaker
I don't think that's how most people feel about it. And I like Singed to Showdown, too. But the problem is, it's just like I said, it's too many snap chores. I can't. Brewing decks is its own amount of time and its own separate thing. You know what I mean? From like actively grinding out all this stuff. And I'm so tired of not getting to play the snap I want to play and feeling obligated to like.
00:11:22
Speaker
You know, like you got to do your bounties. You're going to do your daily missions. You got to do like the special event. It's just like you got to get to infinite every season. You got to do your conquest stuff enough each season. Do you want any Infinity avatars? Because that's a commitment.
00:11:42
Speaker
Right? that i And I can't even devote the time to Conquest um to give special avatars. It is a cool Conquest variant this month. I will try to get there. i don't know.
00:11:57
Speaker
I need to... Oh, Kitty Pryde. It is a good one. um I was going to save this for the secret homework, but but it might be a more appropriate topic now. So ah Scott Denham and a few others in the community also play the Chinese version of Snap, which is a completely different game. It has a different developer.
00:12:16
Speaker
They have unique variants, unique game modes, unique card acquisition system, for better or worse, in that case, worse. But one thing that they're doing is they're running these like two-day events.
00:12:27
Speaker
that are, they're sort of like the imbalance patches we had before, but like the first one was four cost cards cost one. And then the second one was on reveal card. Every time you use an on reveal ability, that card just gets a random ongoing ability.
00:12:43
Speaker
And so it's like super busted, but like it lasts like two days. And I'm like, i would much rather play something that's so different and quirky and short than either a hot location or high voltage again.
00:12:56
Speaker
Like... I would love to see them experiment with hyper-short event modes. Little tavern brawl things or something. Yeah. i I forget how long those last for, but... The problem is, if that was part of the regular ladder that's rough on your casual user... but That's just going up and doing play and not like seeing all these... but And all of a sudden, everything works different and they're like, what the fuck? And get And if you attach rewards to it, then suddenly it's more chores. unless It seems like it'll seem...
00:13:27
Speaker
Right? Like, the game's broken if they get in and they're just like, I just want to play my fucking golded-out destroy deck that I always play every You know what I mean? And then all of a sudden shit's different.
00:13:39
Speaker
and You're right. So I'm not sure how to balance that, but, like... I'd rather have a two day chore than a seven day chore. Yeah. And then it's time limited. You know, what if that is those two days are you like your wedding day? Like that's locking you out of like something that what if you really wanted it? It was a great variance. So that's rough too.
00:13:59
Speaker
So I'm like such a naysayer this whole episode. Usually I'm like, yay, snap. And this time I'm like, ah, okay. My thinking is that if they want to make it easy to jump into these ah very brief, like these like proposed mini modes or whatever, like I think they could do it. They could make some where they'll throw a deck to you already. Like you don't bring your own deck. Like I'm i'm just thinking like how how did Blizzard do tavern brawls?
00:14:25
Speaker
And they they did that a lot. Also, they had a lot of tavern brawls where you could just like basically bring whatever you'd been playing on ladder or whatever and You know, all you need to do is win one game, get your get your free booster for winning that week's tavern brawl or whatever, and then you move on with your life.
00:14:44
Speaker
I like that. I kind of think they they crib a lot of things from, ah you know, the old Hearthstone. So what is it? The event lasts a week, but, like, you don't have to check in every eight hours. You just...
00:15:00
Speaker
Yeah, I think they last like five days because like there there'll be like two days off like between tavern brawls or something. like I might be misremembering a detail here or there, but like that's like the basic gist. is that like it's It's basically, you know, it runs most of the week.
00:15:15
Speaker
You only have to engage with it really once. Just win one would win at one time, walk away, and... like If you're still having fun with it, like some of the tavern brawls are so fun that you'll keep playing it. And, you know, like that'll be the kind of Hearthstone you played that week. You know, if you really love that particular tavern brawl, I don't know.
00:15:34
Speaker
I think they should do something more like that. I'm going to try to reserve judgment. We don't know yet what the epic twist is for high voltage overdrive. We don't know yet what kind of twist, if any, there will be on this version of Sanctum Showdown.
00:15:49
Speaker
I will try to reserve judgment, but I'm just like, it feels like a lot to go to. It is a lot. It's from zero events in ah in a month to two back to back. I didn't like it the last time the ah high voltage thing came back seemingly five minutes later. Like that just was that was so like demoralizing. I was like, I can't do it.
00:16:09
Speaker
i can't do it. I don't have it in me. I know I don't.
00:16:14
Speaker
The Twitch charge was tied up a lot of volts. Oh my god, it was such a, it was such a, it was like pulling teeth. I did not like it.