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Do you want healthy, strong, fit children? A powerful lesson that most will never learn.
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Almost 20 years ago I met someone who has been instrumental in changing the trajectory of not only my health and my family’s health but he has also changed mindsets.
I’ve been blessed to have 2 people in my life who have continually modeled the question ‘what is humanly possible?’ And have demonstrated to me how I can apply that in my life. That approach to life is not limited to only physical things & comes with a mindset few ever consider.
I came to Jay seeking help for one of my children and stepped into a world I never imagined. His system is not just for the elite athletes he has trained but for all human beings. It’s to give everyone the opportunity to live as the miracle we are all gifted by birth. Some choose to apply it to sport, some choose to apply it to normal daily activities. It is for those of any age.
When I met Jay, I had been working in the personal fitness field and was performing as a strength athlete for over 20 years and I thought I knew fitness. I didn’t. Not only did I have to learn new things but unlearn so much.
My hope for today’s podcast is that you can have ears to hear what is being discussed. It can change your life for the better as it did mine.
Welcome Jay Schroeder!
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Introduction and Podcast Overview
00:00:35
Speaker
Welcome to Russell Jones Speaks, where we explore big issues that matter to parents, grandparents, and kids. We tackle intergenerational issues. Everything that affects parents, grands, and children is on the table. That includes health and fitness, relationships, attitude, family unity, vision, adversity, God, and anything else that might arise. The goal is for you to take away something that you can use in your life immediately.
00:01:01
Speaker
Almost 20 years ago, I met someone who has been instrumental in changing the trajectory of not only my health and my family's health, but he has also changed mindsets.
Mindset Shifts and Possibilities
00:01:12
Speaker
I've been blessed to have two people in my life who have continually modeled the question, what is possible? And have demonstrated to me how I can apply that in my life. That approach to life is not limited to only physical things and comes with a mindset if you ever consider.
00:01:29
Speaker
I came to Jay seeking help for one of my children and stepped into a world I never imagined. His system is not just for the elite athletes he is trained, but for all human beings. It's to give everyone the opportunity to live as the miracle we are all gifted by birth. Some choose to apply it to sports, some choose to apply it to normal daily activities. It is for those of any age. When I met Jay,
00:01:54
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I had been working in the personal fitness field and was performing as a strength athlete for over 20 years. And I thought I knew fitness. I didn't. Not only did I have to learn new things, but unlearned so much. My hope for today's podcast is that you can have years to hear what is being discussed. It can change your life for the better, as it did mine. Welcome Jay Schroeder. Hey, thanks Russell. How are you today?
00:02:20
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I'm just wonderful. It's a beautiful day in South Carolina. Yeah. Same here in Arizona. I'm sitting outside. It's 90 degrees, you know, it's seven in the morning. nice So, um, all right. So, uh, we're going to have to admit that you were not originally from Arizona where you grew up. I kind of remember you talking about being a Jersey boy. at one No upstate New York. Upstate New York. Okay.
00:02:50
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Yeah. And ah that was like how many years did you spend ah up there? Until, ah well, when I was in seventh grade, my father was a truck driver and we actually lived in ah Binghamton and his terminal moved 60 miles across the border into Pennsylvania into Scranton. So we ended up moving to Scranton when I was in seventh grade.
00:03:18
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And then just before my senior year, my dad had a ah series of heart attacks and um the union wasn't gonna let them drive anymore. So he had to change obviously his career.
Jay's Background and Influences
00:03:33
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So we had a family vote and we decided to move to Arizona so he could start all over again and we could start all over with him. That was in, let's see,
00:03:44
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72 1972. Oh, all right. You've been out there a while then for sure. Oh, yeah. 52 years. i'm I'm like from here. Yes, sir. The yeah now. OK, so growing up big family or I had three brothers, three brothers. And so sports was part of it, I'm assuming. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. My my dad played on um semi-pro teams for football, one of them that became ah the New York Giants. And I had some other friends of his that became the Philadelphia Eagles. And you know it was all when they had the cardboard helmets. And yeah so my my dad broke his nose, what was it, seven times in one year. And he said, well, there's no future in football. He didn't want to go through that anymore.
00:04:41
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Yeah, so but I ended up by the high school I went to was large and you could only pick one sport to play. And I ended up picking football obviously because of my dad. OK, so and then I mean, were there big dreams with sports or? Coming home, yeah, when I started playing, and I thought, yeah, I want to play in the NFL someday and then as I got growing and going through life more, it become less and less of a goal. um Football was fun, and I didn't want that to be ruined. And ultimately, you see, I like to think, I like to be alone, um creating things, putting them pen to paper, and then implementing them in whatever the area may be, you know,
00:05:37
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It could be, you know, now it's it's training, but it could have been to everything and anything. And so ultimately I wanted to be a truck driver, like my dad, over the road where I could think and I could tow my race car or motorcycles
Overcoming Adversity: Jay's Accident and Recovery
00:05:52
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with me and I could race.
00:05:54
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And that's ultimately what I wanted to do. Still to this day, I'm 69 and I'm still thinking, you know, I could still get my ah my license and in go drive truck. I mean, I know how, my dad taught me when I was seven, my dad taught me how to back up an 18 wheeler into the dock. And, you know, I used to drive Friday nights, I used to go with them. And the last 30 miles home, I would drive.
00:06:21
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And so, you know, I knew how to do that. The sad thing in truck driving today is they have automatic transmissions in the trucks. What a world we're in. You got to make it simple. People people don't understand a lot of things. Oh gosh. So, all right. So you get to college and,
00:06:43
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that's That's when you had your injury? yeah Actually, um we moved out here. My parents ah moved out here as my senior year and I stayed in Pennsylvania is to play my senior year and then came out here with them.
00:06:58
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Um, so I really lost, you know, I was a decent player. I wasn't great, but I was pretty darn good. And I got out here and I had to finish at a local high school, um, because I didn't have Arizona government and they required one other class called civics.
00:07:18
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um otherwise I had met and surpassed i mean the requirements in Pennsylvania were much greater than Arizona was. and But I had to go to school and I went to school for two hours a day. And I asked the football coach if I could come out and you know practice because I knew I couldn't make the team with only taking two classes. you know He said, sure. So I went out there and I was um Well, they say kick an ass, right? And they wanted to then hold me back a year so I could play. And I really didn't want to do that. And then when I decided to, it was too late. I had already been accredited for graduation. So I ended up going to Mesa Community College and and playing there.
00:08:09
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and kind of got lost amongst the shuffle. At that time, Mesa Community was the hotbed for Arizona State ah recruits that either couldn't make ah ASU because of grades or some type of eligibility problem, so they moved them to the junior college. And there were 11 tailbacks in front of me. So needless to say, first year I kind of I held the dummies and you know all the things that the the scrubs do. sure Second year, there were only eight in front of me. And five ended up getting hurt in off-season practice. And these decided to have a tryout for the rest of us. And they they put the ball on the 12-yard line.
00:09:00
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and gave us each three plays to see how many times we could score. We all ran the exact same plays. We had the same line playing against the same defense. And I scored each time, so I got the starting role and ended up starting. And um I went to a small school, Baker University in Texas, at NAIA.
00:09:25
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I think it was division two at the time, but they're now division one, I think. I'm really not sure how they arranged it anymore. I was coming home from spring break and that's when I got in my accident. And that kind of changed the world, changed the plans.
00:09:43
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made me truly wish I had been driving that truck instead of playing it. But as you know it's one of those things where it's like, ah what the what the heck did I do to deserve this? Why me? why you know You go through it when you feel sorry for yourself. you know I was injured and had paralyzed from nipples down and it was very strange.
00:10:09
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um To this day, I figured out, what not at this day, but years before, um I figured out the real injuries were head injuries. You know, I broke my back and neck and six places in my back, four in my neck, but they weren't at any level that would really lead to permanent paralysis. um But they didn't know, in 1975, they had no clue what was going on. They put me in traction and My parents couldn't afford the bill. The guy that ran over me was a college kid. on ah Do you remember when used to as a college kid ah buy used books and then go to other universities and sell them and make a money make your money and make living doing that?
00:10:52
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Did you ever do that, Russell? No, I didn't. No. OK, well, it's real popular. And the front of his car was loaded with books. He said he couldn't see me, you know, so whatever that was. But my family was responsible for the bills. And finally, they sent me home and left me in traction at home. My mother had to get a job to help pay the bills. And at that time, I think um she made, what, 40 cents an hour?
00:11:21
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So, you know, um worked in the credit department for Sears and Roebuck. She was a collector. But I had an osteopathic physician, and he told me, I really have no idea, Jay, what the heck's going on. And I don't know what to do.
00:11:41
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Cause I was, I would have like periods where this was after the first couple months. So two months into it, i I could wiggle my toes or I could do something. I could move something and then I couldn't for days, nothing would happen. So he gave me these training journals and they were Soviet training journals translated obviously not in Russian cause I don't read Russian, but, um, he said, read these. I think they'll help you. You're a really smart kid.
00:12:09
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And I think you'll figure out something from these. Well, I ended up figuring something out after another two and a half, three, four months of reading. And my dad set up a a little shell for me and I had one of those pointers from ah school when they'd point to the chalkboard and stuff. And I would flip the pages with the pointer and ended up having to read. I couldn't change the book out till my parents got home. So I ended up reading the same thing over and over and over.
00:12:39
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And I don't know what happened. you know Ultimately, it's God's plan. I wasn't good enough to go to the NFL and play or even play big time school or anything. But I kept trying and he kept probably getting tired of saying, Jay, this isn't for you and this is what happened to me.
Training Philosophy and Athlete Success Stories
00:12:55
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you know And it opened up a whole new world. And um I started, I had this little roller with prickly ends on it and I put it behind my head.
00:13:07
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And I figured what I gathered from this is if I could create pain, then I could also create movement. And so I started to try and create pain anywhere in my body. And the first place I created it was my left foot. And once I created it there, then I knew the next step I had to do was figure out how to get rid of it.
00:13:29
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and I would move this around my neck, around my head, different points on top, around the side because I could press my head back against things to really hard. Now, I couldn't raise my arm high enough to roll it because I could get about here with each arm and that's about it. And so it would just move around and and the different parts of my head would create pain, discomfort in different areas. And then I started to manipulate how long I did it for and then off and on you know series and um getting rid of it. Once I did that, I learned to create pain anywhere in my body. As soon as I had 15, 20 locations, things started to move. And that's my story. That sort of ended up. That's why I do what I do today from what I figured out at that time.
00:14:17
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so did you So you shifted, though, once you're up and about, you're you shifted to powerlifting at one point? Well, I did a lot of different things because, to be honest, i um I was afraid that something would happen that I wouldn't move again. And I really didn't like that.
00:14:37
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you know um a You know, the wise, well, that's those are personal reasons, but it it wreaked a lot of havoc in my brain, we'll say. And I didn't want it to happen again, so I started to do a lot of different things. um I rode bicycles and I raced, what do you call it, Criterium and 25k, 40k bike races. I got into velodrome cycling because I just wanted to see, well, what can I do with all this stuff?
00:15:10
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you know And anyhow, I ended up going back to school to play football. um I went to my old coach at the community college. I said, look, nobody's going to give me a scholarship anywhere because nobody thinks I should be doing anything. And he said, you know I've got a friend. He's ah going to a real small school and he'll take you on. And he did. I got a scholarship. And you know at that time, scholarships were you know, they paid you money and got free schooling and free food and all that stuff. And once I left there, then I, I decided to do everything cause I had a scare. Um, I got hit ah straight in the head. I bent over and took a shot straight on the top of my head and the same sensations came back for about a month and a half or so. And I got my way back, same thing that I did. And then, uh,
00:16:05
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You know, one thing led to another. I started riding bicycles, lifting weights because you didn't lift weights when I was in school. They didn't, they didn't allow it. Okay. You could sneak off and do some things, but ultimately they didn't allow it. So I began to play around and one thing led to another. I, I got pretty strong and found out that I could get faster. I was your basic s slow guy. you know I ran a 4999 downhill, uphill with a tailwind. Didn't matter. 4999. And you know I had a ah solid 23-inch vertical jump. So those things take you nowhere really fast. So I said to myself, you know what? If I could allow myself to move, I wonder if I could allow myself to move more efficiently.
00:16:51
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I ended up running for 340. I had a 43 inch vertical jump. I could stuff a basketball behind my head. you know And that's that's really when I started investigating. you know I tried it out on family you know so and friends. And no one thing led to another. Evil then became evil. So at what point did you get connected with like Reggie White? and Oh those were um after I trained Adam.
00:17:26
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I trained a lot of people, and then, out of Marchaleta, my wife was a ah teacher, and she was very well respected, very well liked, and all the football coaches knew her because she taught the Deaf, set up the whole sign language program in Arizona, worked with Gallaudet University, the Deaf University, and um she participated with the football coaches to interpret for the Deaf players.
00:17:56
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And the head coach at her school ended up going to another local school. And that's where Adam happened to be playing. And Adam got into a lot of mischief, we'll just say. And he called Cindy and said, hey, is your husband still training kids and working with kids? Because I had the reputation of helping to create good citizens through training. you know People used to say, you know I don't care how strong little Johnny got or little chain got. They're nicer in the family. They're a better community person. Those are the things that became really important with Evo. They're becoming
Philosophy and Personal Transformation
00:18:36
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respected. So I said, would your husband take on this kid I have? He might be good. He might not. I don't know. But right now, I can't do anything with him because he's always you know in mischief.
00:18:47
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And that's how I got started with Adam. um And needless to say, Adam ended up being good for me and I was good for Adam. Ended up getting a scholarship to Arizona State. He had zero offers, no junior college even wanted him. And he ended up walking on at ASU. Next year he earned a full scholarship. and One thing led to another became first round draft pick in the NFL. And all of a sudden Jay knew what he was doing. Yeah, they did. Didn't they do it? ESPN special. Oh yeah. ESPN, USA Today, ah Philadelphia newspapers, New York newspapers, LA newspapers. There were articles and multiple periodicals, you know, and yeah, got there's a ah lot of good publicity came with that. And then, um,
00:19:37
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And when Adam got drafted, um the coach of the Rams said, look, ah we want to pay you to consult with ah the Rams. and But you are specifically going to take care of Adam. And that's what I did for a year and a half. And I ended up then obviously helping many other players because they came to me and asked. and ah Then I got consulting jobs with multiple other teams, baseball, football, a basketball. And I got to meet a lot of interesting, very cool people like Reggie White. Hmm. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. The Minister of Defense.
00:20:21
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Yeah, yeah. He was the minister of a lot of things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, okay, so how we met, I think the there's some real implications for kids and parents. ah ah Somewhere 20 years ago, my youngest was in high school and getting hurt all the time.
00:20:47
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and ah i I forget exactly how I got connected, but um I ended up on the phone with you a couple of times ah regarding ah not just this training, but injuries and everything else.
00:21:02
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and you know have been on the planet even longer than you. And everybody's got a system the perfect way. success I mean, advertising ah hasn't changed much over the years in terms of the promises that everybody makes.
00:21:21
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so um So you you kind of you you said, look, you said, just try this for three months. Have your son do this program for three months, and you know and you'll know whether whether my system works or not. So yeah you know so I said, all right, my son, we we started calling him the experiment. I guess it's better calling him the experiment than the accident, but you call him the experiment. in And so for three months, he you know he was a wrestler and ah ah and a yeah baseball player. And for three months, he um did nothing else other than four exercises. And he did them ah he did them four days a week. And we tested him before he started at the end of his sophomore year of high school.
00:22:14
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and is in the mile run, he ran a all out, six minute, 48 second mile. And after that, we didn't, that summer, there was no run into the mailbox. And as a wrestler, you know, the whole wrestler mentality, you got to do hill training, you got to do cardio, cardio. ye And so, you know, he was pretty apprehensive because he was a decent wrestler. And, um,
00:22:41
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So at the end of that summer, beginning of a new school year, new school, they go out on the track, the new coach and everything, and he runs a six minute mile, six minutes flat, cut 48 seconds off of his mile within three months, not running at all.
00:23:00
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And then they did sprints and traditionally he was the always the last one in the sprints, but there was a new kid on the team that was from a, he he was a track kid that was going to try out for wrestling. So he's the only one that my son couldn't beat in the sprints. He won every sprint and he recovered so quickly from the mile run and the sprints.
00:23:22
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So he called me, he said that I did a six minute flat mile. He said, I was, I was so nervous. I think I could have went faster, but I was nervous. I never went that fast before. And he said, uh, and so I'm trying to figure out like what happened in three months. Can you break that down for me, Jay? Let everybody know what mechanisms, what occurred in that kid's body in three months.
00:23:50
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Nothing really occurred in his body. Let me let me say, this is this is the basic tenet of Evo. You see, we're all strong, we're all powerful, we're all fast, we're all explosive, we're all fit, we're all whatever it is that we want to display. It's already inside of us. That was given to us by birth. And that's part of the miracle of birth. And we mistreat ourselves. We we eat inappropriately. We move inappropriately. We sleep inappropriately. We don't dream. we We just mistreat ourselves in a multitude of areas, sometimes every area. And as Evo, and this is this is what I found, again, we'll we'll just harken back to putting that little tool under my head and what was really being created there. It was just information going to my brain. That information allowed my brain to understand
00:24:44
Speaker
what we're born with, reflex patterns, reflex arcs, the things, how we're supposed to move, how our systems are supposed to work, how our organs are supposed to respond to some type of stress, whatever it may be. And that's all we really do is we we try and find that key, now the key for you and the key for me and the key for everyone.
00:25:02
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can be can be different, but we're all exactly the same. We we have the same muscles in the same locations. ah They're innovated by the same nervous systems, fueled by the same energy systems. All of our muscles are located in the same place. and you know were were one It doesn't matter if we're six foot five or we're five foot 10, we're 400 pounds, we're 130 pounds, we're male, we're female, it doesn't matter. We all have the same things to work with.
00:25:33
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And those are the things that are the finest that can allow us to be the greatest. But we we start here when we're born and then we do this. You know, when you think back to when your kids were very young and your grandchildren, you know, they they don't bend over to pick up something like you and I. They squat down and they do a perfect squat, upper torsos or rec, lower legs perpendicular. You know, everything is in line.
00:25:58
Speaker
And we're born with that. No one taught them to do that, because they weren't in the weight room. And you weren't even as much into all this as you are. You weren't going, hey, Jay, you got you gotta to keep your upper body erect. I can't let you pick that up unless you do this. right they just They just did it. Now, if we can get back to that point, and that's the point that I reached when I was lying in bed. And I just took off on that and created Everything I write is still based on all of that today. You know, 50 whatever years later, it's still based on that exact same thing. Now, some people choose to do it, some people choose not to because it makes evident every weakness, every flaw.
00:26:40
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And we all know we're flawed. Not everybody wants to admit it. You know, you and I, as much as we may know about this, we're still flawed in these areas and we're flawed in many other areas because we're humans and we are flawed. And our our role is to remedy e these flaws or not let them be seen or take advantage of them to create something new um in our own humanity so that we can move on when our day on earth is over. So we still have something more to to grow on and become you know closer to our creator. So all this is just to take you back to when you were a newborn. We breathe, breathe sit, stand, and walk. It's about all you could do as a kid, right? As a little young child.
00:27:27
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Yes, sir. Yeah. So I remember to, aside from my son, so I guess after that, I came out to visit oh one of your facilities out in the Minnesota. And that was ah that was an interesting visit in that ah ah you and Dennis Thompson and Jamie Rieger and Dr. J.
00:27:54
Speaker
hello They looked at this broken down 50 plus year old strongman from New Jersey. And ah it was it was pretty it was funny in a way, but it was sad in a way because um from all the accidents and all the injuries and all the hard training in poor position, not knowing what you're doing, just trying to get from point A to point B the best you can without any any notion about position um and all the compensations that developed from that. I mean, I was broken down mess. And I thought I was at the end of doing presentations and performances in that my chosen area of the straw man world. And yet,
00:28:43
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um And there was that, like you said, going back to the beginning, going back to positions that I i didn't know that I'd ever be able to get in. I had you know scar tissue everywhere, pins and screws and wires and all kinds of things. But because ah of the like you the mindset that developed,
00:29:05
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and that basic understanding, ah you know, I've extended to now. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm to be, well, I'm 71 now and I'm still able to do stuff. And I'm like, you know, I'm still able, I did a couple of shows this past year and it's, ah it's just been amazing.
00:29:21
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so but So for parents too, right? Like for a young person, okay, they don't have to go back in time that far, right, to get back to, you know, ah being a kid, a little kid in positions, right? They're a 15-year-old to get back to being, you know, to doing infant movements. But an older person, like, is there any hope for old people?
00:29:45
Speaker
Yeah, unless you've died, there's always hope, yeah. There you go. there's There's never an end of the opportunity to improve and change and get better um until you're no longer breathing. So what we have from, and we had clients from two years old to 96 years old, and the results are always the same um if the person participates. And if they don't, well,
00:30:15
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you know It's like anything else. The system is is is invaluable if you don't work it as anything else you could do wrong that's out there. It doesn't matter.
00:30:26
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um just because while you're with Jay or you're in there with Charles or I wrote this program and it is it it doesn't just happen. You have to participate. And the role of a coach, a coach is a guide. A coach doesn't tell you what to do. A coach guides you, provides information, and then allows your brain to ah take that information, first of all, accept it, um dissect it, respond to it, and then respond to what happened from executing that action.
00:30:56
Speaker
And those reflex patterns, reflex arcs, and you know, and I will disagree with you, you do have to go back to those positions of when you were a young child. You do have to go back if you're 15, if you're 60, if you're 90. You know, looking at, um let's just say I spend and a lot of time and I have spent hour upon hour, because I only sleep three and a half hours a night.
00:31:19
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And all my waking hours I spend doing stuff. I don't waste any time. And I watch videotape of the so-called greatest athletes in the world and how they move and what they do. and And they're doing it wrong. They just happen to be a little more efficient at something in one area than somebody is at another. But I've only seen a few people that truly had it all together at once. And, uh,
00:31:48
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They became my heroes, so Jesse Owens and Jim Thorpe. oo there you go When you watch them move, no matter where we have pictures from, what what time in their career, how old they were, it didn't matter. But whenever you actually look at the angles they're at, they're at ah close to perfect angles for a human being to execute movement.
00:32:12
Speaker
And you know I still, to this day, I watch and watch video clips of Jesse Owens. I watch Jim Thorpe in his mismatched shoes and you know all the other things, that disadvantages that they had. you know We have everything so wonderful today, and yet they were able to do that. But very rarely do I see anybody. I've met a few in my career and had the opportunity to train.
00:32:39
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um But there are few and far between, to be honest. And my goal is to allow everyone to be able to move efficiently. Because if you move efficiently, everything, your all of your humanity functions the way it's designed to. And when that functions the way it's designed, well, you're never in a bad mood. You don't covet anything of anyone else's. thirty There would be, to me, no crime, no anything, because we'd be satisfied within ourselves.
00:33:10
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And really that's the name of the game. If you don't love yourself and feel satisfied within yourself, and nothing's gonna happen in the rest of your life with anyone else.
Role of a Coach and Training Methods
00:33:18
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And that's, I chose to do this through training because that's what I was familiar with. That's how I got the ball rolling. um So yes, there is a very distinct entry point and people don't like entering that. I get you know people who make $5 million dollars a year and I have them doing something that a three-year-old in the other side of the room is doing and they're doing it better than them And they may choose to leave. yougo You know, I had a young girl. This is quite a few years ago. She called me Uncle Jay. Her dad and I got to be really good friends.
00:33:51
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And I trained her dad ah for cycling. That's how I met him was I beat him many times in a 25 kilometer, 40 kilometer criteria. And he got upset that I was always winning. And he thought, well, I train all this and I can't beat this guy. So we got together and his daughter was a soccer player. And when I met her, she was three, excuse me, at five, she got invited to the Olympic training center.
00:34:19
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And she played with ah nine to 13 year olds and actually could have made that team. And she came back and came into the gym, needless to say, she was there every day to train. And she would every once in a while come over to me and say, hey, Uncle Jay, do you want me to go show the big football player how to really do this right? And I say, sure, go ahead. You know what? ah It upset some people and they didn't come back and other people were Oh my God, how how can she be doing this? you know I lift 50 times more than she does. I run 20 times faster. She's never hurt. She can do it 900 times in a row. I can do it three or four times in a row. How do I get there? And that's how we got going. And that's that's kind of the core of people that have stuck with. So you know I know you said a lot of times, evil is not for everyone.
00:35:16
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but it should be, but it's not because not everybody can accept um their frailty, their flaws. that's That's my job as a guy. That's Charles' job as a guy. that Your job as a guide when you're training people is to provide the information so their brain recognizes where these problems are and correct them before anything else occurs. you know We're not gonna eliminate compensatory action.
00:35:43
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It's impossible. We're flawed. We're humans. But what we can do is allow the brain to understand when they occur and then make the correction based on human design. And then we don't see the negativity from those compensatory actions. Or if we do, it's it's limited quite greatly. That's what training is supposed to be.
00:36:06
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You know, what's I've had women who were allergic to weights that became state champions, national champion power lifters. They were allergic to weights. I had ah families that would come in, husbands and sons, and then, well, can we get our mom in here? She needs to get in shape. She ended up being stronger than they were, and they quit because she was out doing them.
00:36:28
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Many times I had a powerlifting team and the the only men that were on it was myself and one other guy and the rest of the 11 or nine women. And we were all 40 plus years old. And they they had no background in this.
00:36:46
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It was there. The strength was there. You know, they wanted to lose fat or I need glutes, so I look good in my genes or whatever reason it is. I listen, but I really don't pay attention because I know what I need those people to accomplish in order to achieve whatever it is they want. And you have to have this baseline level. If you don't,
00:37:08
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You're going to be this. and duoo do Up and down, up and down, up and down. And what happens? Well, we get frustrated. You know, I train with Jay for three months. That doesn't work anymore. I go to Russell and I train for three months. It doesn't work anymore. I go train with Jane Doe for three months. ah It doesn't work anymore. Why? Because they got to a point where they weren't willing to help themselves get above that level. That's what we're supposed to do as guides. So it it is for everyone, but it's not for everyone.
00:37:38
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yeah Yeah, and it's ah it's interesting. Well, the amount of time that I see people ah put into their their fitness, their personal fitness program, where they break it up into strength and cardio and flexibility, the amount of hours that people put into these things.
00:38:03
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and No one can believe how little I work out in terms of time, right? The time is is very focused, right? But it's, it you know, I can do the rest of my life. I don't have to think about these, you know, I got to go so many days. I got to go for so many hours and all these things. And it's it's such an efficient way to exercise as well. But, yeah, let me throw this at you real quick.
00:38:32
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ah And since there's a bunch of chatter going on, talking about the world health, ah just sort of another podcast, it's actually, it might creep into the national conversation. It sort of is in terms of um how poor ah the health is of American children as well as Americans in general. I mean, it's it's just ah it's a crisis. yeah And so, flashing back real quick to President Kennedy, this is as political as I'm going to get, ah he wrote in The Soft American, physical fitness is not only one of the most important keys to a healthy body, it is the basis of dynamic and creative intellectual activity.
00:39:19
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We know what the Greeks knew, that intelligence and skill can only function at the peak of their capacity when the body is healthy and strong. That hardly that hearty spirit oop sorry that hardy spirits and tough minds usually inhabit sound bodies.
00:39:37
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In this sense, physical fitness is the basis of all the activities of our society. And if our bodies grow soft and inactive, if we fail to encourage physical development and prowess, we will undermine our capacity for thought, for work, and for the use of those skills vital to an expanding and complex America.
Holistic Approach in Evo Training
00:39:56
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Thus, the physical fitness of our citizens is a vital prerequisite to Americans realization of its full potential as a nation and to the opportunity of each individual citizen to make full and fruitful use of his capacities. Yeah, that's a mouthful. And I totally agree with that. You know, that's why I have pipes, physiology, intellect, psychology, emotion, and spirit.
00:40:17
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um You know, one of the things that um when we're talking about training kids is parents, they used to come up to me all the time and say, you know, my son, daughter is, they're getting better grades in school. They're there' spending more time studying and doing these things. You know, it's it's the entirety of of our being. We can't just lift weights. We can't just run. We can't just study. We can't just play an instrument.
00:40:43
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It's the totality of everything that God gave us that makes us or allows us, affords us the opportunity to live as this miracle. Now to me, that's what evolutionary training, Evo training does. By the way, evolutionary is really what Evo training became. people Too many syllables to say, I don't know. It got shortened to Evo.
00:41:06
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It's everything, mind, body, spirit. and If you don't have 100% of every aspect of pipes or at least apply 100% of each, then you only get what the lowest level of each is and you go nowhere. You you spin your tires. And again, that's that's what EVO is about. it's It's never about training for strength or size or speed. Those things just happen because You know, my son, he's a great example. The school he went to was a small high school. You know, we went there because my nephews went there and um my sister-in-law taught there. And and then so, you know, he wanted to go to school with his with his family. And so we went there and he was one of the biggest kids on the team, but he was like me you know when I was slow. He was the slowest on the team and he didn't really care to work very hard. And I didn't push any of my kids to do anything. If they asked,
00:42:02
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then I for sure would help. But if they didn't, then it didn't matter. And just before his senior year, I said, Dad, you know, I want to. I don't want to be the slowest on the team anymore. I don't want to be the weakest on the team. Aren't you embarrassed? And I said, No, I love you. You're my son. However you play, it you play. It's up to you. However hard you want to work. That's your choice, not mine. And he said, Well, I don't want to be the slowest. I don't want to be the weakest. I said, Fine, then you're going to do everything I say. And We're going to train the way we should be doing it. You're going to eat appropriately. You're going to sleep appropriately. We're going to monitor your dreams. Everything, blah, blah, blah. It's OK. I'll do it. But we did it for just over two months. And when he got there, you know I was the strength coach of the team. And you know so I was doing some testing, but I didn't want to be where Colin was testing so that they couldn't say, well, his dad is helping him out. you know So I would always be in another area
00:43:01
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And, uh, about halfway through this testing, one of the coaches came over and, uh, said to the coach that I was with, Hey, you need to come over here. There's something going on. And I said, what? And I looked at him and all the coaches are there. And I was not and what he invited me. And so I was watching it was column that was running. And, uh, he ran a four, six, four 40 his best 40 before we started was five 29.
00:43:32
Speaker
He had gained 18 pounds, and he was running so much faster. And two months? um It's two months. We did everything the way Jay, evil, wants it done. It isn't Jay's way, it's God's way, it's the human way. We took him back, because obviously yeah he was raw with compensatory action. And all we had to do was get information to his brain, where his brain would say,
00:44:00
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oh That's inappropriate. I need to change that. You know, Russell, I think when I met you with Dennis and Dr. J and and Jimmy, that was a fun group, you know? And yeah it good times, fun group of people, knowledgeable people, and just wanted to help people.
00:44:17
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and um We had a lot of people that would come in with, you know, had knee surgery or shoulder surgery or hip surgery, ankle problems. and And mostly in the lower body we saw this where they would limp or the upper body, you know, the side would not do what it's supposed to do. So I created a protocol with the modality um to allow the brain to understand it was limping on the other side, on the good side.
00:44:46
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And when the brain understood that, it went, whoa, I need to correct what's happening over here. It recognized what was going on in the other side of the body. And quickly, the limp was no longer visible. Yet the person had no idea they weren't limping anymore until you videotaped them. And they went, oh, wow. You know, that person with a shoulder, they couldn't raise their arm above here, right?
00:45:10
Speaker
you know, and while I'm working with them, their arms going all the way up. And they said, no, I can't, it's not happening. So I went, took them in the bathroom where the mirror was. and now put your arm, I can't, I can't, I'll just do it. And their arm went all the way up and they would cry in tears, but they couldn't see it, but their brain recognized, made the corrections so that they could do those things. And that that's what keeps us w Russell from being whatever it is we want to achieve, whether it's writing poetry, ah playing an instrument, singing, mountain climbing, playing football, being a strong man, um being Helene and running ridiculous distances,
00:45:51
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you know Did you see her last accomplishment? I know you've had her on the podcast and i've I've listened to all your podcasts, but Helene, she just finished one. You know how long we trained for it? No. Two weeks. Oh gosh. She didn't do running. She wasn't even able to come to the gym because she was at home. She's in Vegas or Nevada, somewhere there. and so We did it all with the modality.
00:46:17
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And she had a, you know, she has continuous bouts of these cancer limitations. I won't go into any detail, but she was sick while she was doing this and yet just went out there and accomplished this run. She texted me when she was finished and said, Jay, I could run this three or four times in a row. I'm not tired. I'm not sick. I'm not, I didn't lose a ton of weight. I didn't, I feel good. I just, I'm going to go about everyday life.
00:46:46
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You know, that's what it's supposed to be. ah Somebody who's diseased like that, and and we don't need to go into our history, but I think people can find out a little on the podcast if they go back and listen.
00:46:59
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but She's been nothing but a cancer patient for years and years and years, and we're talking serious where they gave up on her. She was going to die. I talked to her once a week. I wouldn't go to the hospital because they were going to make me wear a mask, and I wouldn't do that. So I would talk to her, and we never talked about how do we get over the effects of the cancer.
00:47:23
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And more importantly, the effect of the chemo, which is instant death, you know? And um we never talked about that. We just talked about how she was going to accomplish her next event. And we strategized how she would run, where she would accelerate and then coast and and do all these different things. And you know, as well as I do, she finished that. In less than 10 weeks later, she went out and did the bridge competition. She still had a hole in her chest.
00:47:52
Speaker
for the port Now that's what humans, Helene is no better than you, no worse than me, no better than me, I'm no better than anyone else. We're all the same. It's what do we use? To me, Helene is one of the greatest athletes I've ever trained. Does she do things that are against what I might think? Of course. We all do. No one lives to anyone's expectations. They live to their own. And it's up to you and I as the guy to work within that and and make it happen for them so they can change other people's lives in how they display they display it.
00:48:29
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That's how we become great as a society, as human beings, is one person at a time. To me, that's what Evo does. Listening to you talk about your experience and your son's experience. I remember when your son came here, I wasn't very, um I didn't say very many good things about him, you know, when he first started. I critiqued, but that's my job. I have to know what's not right.
00:48:58
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before I can make a plan to remedy or at least get the information to his brain to remedy it, because I don't do anything. You know, I think the other day you mentioned something in an email to me about, well, I cured myself. I did not. I gave information to my brain to allow my brain to figure out what to do. Fortunately for me, the injuries that I had were only brain injuries. now let's pretty severe in some cases. you know i'm saying People think that you know I've had some extreme brain problems, but I couldn't move and my because of this trauma and it could be disease, it can be injury, it could be surgery, it could be from eating wrong, it can be emotional trauma. you know I've worked with ADD, ADHD or whatever they're calling it today and Guillain-Barre and
00:49:49
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m s MS, you know, I have several clients right now that had, what do they call it, RSDS. Okay, I think now they shortened it to RSD. I have a kid who came in, I think he was 10 at the time, and he was in pain 24 hours a day. his His parents were spending thousands of dollars a week on medications. They couldn't go on vacation, they couldn't leave the house because he couldn't go anywhere. He came in on crutches.
00:50:17
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And you know the only reason he came in is his mother did not want him to come in. But I trained his father. His father was an NFL player. And his mother said, well, what does a strength coach know that's going to help our son get over this? We've seen the best doctors in the world. We use the best medications. And he said, look, nothing's working. Why don't we just ask Jay? Maybe he he knows something. Well, this kid today, you know and only it only took, I think, less than nine months.
00:50:43
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He was off his crutches within a week. And he was um socially behind, we'll say. Now he is a social butterfly. He plays football, he plays basketball, he plays baseball. um His father is is very large. His father is six foot seven. And when he was in his prime, 314 pounds. And when when I met the son,
00:51:09
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He was not very tall. He was like 5'10". And now he's almost 6'5", 258 pounds. ah He's strong. He's fit. He's all those things. And after the first day, he screamed. He cried. And his mother, you know, did what mothers do. Oh, it's okay. Jay, don't hurt him. and So, you know, I thought, well, they'll never come back.
00:51:36
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And they didn't for three days. Now Charles got a call from the mother and the mother said, I don't know what Jay did. He's not on his crutches anymore. He's walking from his bedroom to the kitchen. He's walking from his bedroom to the bathroom. When can we come in again? And that's how that started. And now we have other RSDS patients. You know, Dennis and I worked with RSDS and Guillain-Barre and MS on a regular basis and the results were almost always the same.
00:52:07
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And we we had a ah woman we worked with ah had MS for most of her life. And she couldn't drive. She very rarely got out of bed unless someone was there to pick her up, put her in the wheelchair. And we met her in Minneapolis and, you know, Dennis did his thing with her and then said, all right, Jay, she's yours. I can't do anything more right now. And um they were in the hotel, you know, in Apple Valley right down the street. And she came in the next day. Her her husband was a physician, by the way.
00:52:36
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And her husband told us how much crap we were spewing and we should be, you know, we should ah be chastised for trying to give people false hope. And so anyhow, we did a couple of days. They were in the hotel. It was over the weekend. We didn't see her on the Sunday. And Monday came in and her husband said, ah she took 25 steps down the hallway. She hasn't taken a step in years.
00:53:03
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What the heck is going on here? I don't believe in this. I don't believe it can work, but I just saw it with my own wife. So long story short, she ended up being able to drive, take care of herself. She had her own POV with her because once you have something like that, you've got to keep up on everything. it doesn't just We don't eliminate the disease. We just allow the brain to understand how to overcome compensation.
00:53:30
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and um She called one day and said, ja I want you to take the machine back. And I just, I was flabbergasted, right? And I said, okay, what's what's wrong? And she said, my children never come to visit me anymore. Nobody brings me food. I have to cook everything for myself. I have to drive myself everywhere. This is not the life I i want. I'm used to what I had before.
00:53:56
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oh god Now, isn't that very interesting? And that's what we're talking about where evil should be for everyone or something like evil. You know, I'm not saying I know everything because I don't.
00:54:09
Speaker
My goal is to know as much as I can about everything that I do as possible before I die. But I don't know everything. But what I do know, I've mastered. That's how I make it work. And then I learn by training you, training your son, and training Helene, training others. I learn, I learn, I learn, I never stop. So Evo, evolutionary, you continue to adapt and change every moment of every day.
00:54:36
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Russell, that's why we're talking today because that's what parents want for their children. They want them to be, how shall we say, healthy, wealthy, and wise. You have to have a powerful brain. You have to have a powerful mind. You have to be powerful within your spirit, within your soul, as well as your nervous system and in your organs and everything else. That's what real training gives you or affords you the opportunity. It doesn't give it to you. You have to take advantage of it.
Diet, Health, and Historical Insights
00:55:04
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yeah It's an action for sure. It is. All right, so let's ah let's just hit on a couple of things real quick. ah just ah You mentioned diet a couple of times. what In your view, um I know what my view of diet is. I was just curious about what yours is.
00:55:24
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But we try not to ever use the word diet. It's just eating. you know And the the first thing you need to do is you need to understand or make a decision. Are you going to live to eat or eat to live?
00:55:39
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That's a decision everyone has to make on their own. um Once you've made that decision, then there's parameters to work with it. But here's the way I promote eating, and I know there'll be people who listen to this that are dietitian, nutritionist, and they're going to balk at it and say, this guy's an idiot.
00:55:58
Speaker
I don't really care. Like you, I'm old, and all I care about is helping people live to be the miracle they were born to be. That's all I care about anymore. If it upsets someone, I don't care. If someone doesn't like me, I care. If someone loves me, wants to shower we me with accolades, I don't care. I just go, great, okay. Because that's not what it's about. It's not me.
00:56:20
Speaker
The opportunity to learn what I learned was given to me, my God. I had to be in an accident because of that and have problems. I finally figured it out. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box, I guess. a But here's the way that I would promote eating. Eat all of the red meat you want. Spread it into four times per day. Not having any red meat ah six hours before you go to bed. Eat three times as many vegetables as you can stand to look at.
00:56:50
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supplement with fruits um one or two days a week. Leave three to four hours between every meal.
00:57:01
Speaker
That's it. Cool. I like that. I got to a point, you know you know, training people over the years and ah you know eating systems and you know there's all these things you can do. to try if People want to drop weight, blah, blah, blah. But I just got to a point over the last few years.
00:57:25
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It's got to be the way God created it. I don't care, you know, whatever you want to emphasize, if it's the way God made it and it's in its form that God made it in, right?
00:57:40
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then we're good. I mean, we've we've ruined the food chain. I mean, we've we've done so many things. And you mentioned a beef. I mean, the cow, anybody that studies the cow and how miraculous a creation that that cow is and what it can provide. And, you know, ah anyway, but yeah, I don't want to get too to You know, Russell, before I forget, you know, I'm old and have long-term, short-term memory loss. So, you know, before I forget, your nervous systems control everything. If you have a healthy, plastic, feral, dynamic, nervous set of systems, okay, you can overcome any of the way they produce our food, make our food or what they give us. You can overcome that.
00:58:27
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but you gotta have this healthy plastic virile dynamic set of nervous systems. That's what evil, the first thing we do, because that's what a young child has. They're never hurt, they're never sick, they're never never anything. They run, they jump, they fall, they they sustain all these things, but they never have have negative ramifications. That's part of getting to this point. Where then, whatever it is you have to put into your body, let's say that somebody makes something, we have to, it's the only way we can get this in our body, okay? And it's not great for us. We can overcome the negatives by having healthy plastic real dynamic nervous system.
00:59:02
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God gave us that ability to overcome everything and anything. When you have that, that set of nervous systems that overcomes everything and can accomplish anything, that's when you realize the miraculous human. You can run, you can jump, you can eat, you have solid waste after every single meal or snack. You you can break down whatever. You don't get bloated. You don't get any of these negative things. And that's important. That is very important and people Parents, you need to understand that. You don't just send Little Johnny or Jane into the weight room to train and say, well, i they need to get stronger. They need to get faster. They need to become an efficient human being. They're organs. Every system of their body needs to work in harmony with each other. And then when that happens, Little Johnny and Jane jump high, run fast, and do all of these other things. They think more clearly.
00:59:58
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e They're better human beings. They're great citizens. Whatever we want to say, that's where it begins. But you know, Russell, for the sake of people making money, well, we have people, well, you know, I can train Russell, I can train you to run faster. Even at 70, I can put you on a speed program. I can put you on this program. I can put you on a weight loss. I can put you on a weight gain, a muscle gain, fat loss. It's all really the same. If you're healthy inside,
01:00:27
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your heart, your brain, your soul, your spirit, then you're healthy everywhere and you can go up and wait, down and wait. You can do whatever you want with your body because that's the miraculousness, ah if that's a word, of our gift from birth. That's cool. That's what Evo teaches. You know, I want you to come in, Russell, for a year or two years or whatever it may be and then never see me again.
01:00:55
Speaker
That means now you know how to do this on your own. You can then give it to everyone else you can come in contact with that's interested. That's what it's all about. But everybody wants, you know, Jay, tell me this, tell me that. You know, I get offers all the time. I had a guy fly out here a few months ago. You know, I have ah a gym here and I have a gym here and I want you to be part of it. what part do you I just want you to write the programs. It isn't the program.
01:01:23
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It's what makes up the program, the order that it's in. I don't and if we want to get into this, but you know everything we do resonates at a different frequency. you know When we're injured, we have a certain resonance in that area in our brain when we're thinking or when we're and but emotional or when we're emotionally distraught or physically distraught or diseased or whatever, we have all these different vibrations and they tend to be lower. We need to get ourselves back to this high vibration. If we do things that allow that, wow, now the movements I've chosen, Russell, and for parents of kids that are out there, well, you know, my little Johnny and Jane's coach says we need to power clean and we need to do this and we need to do that. Well, you know what? They could be very good exercises if
01:02:09
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done appropriately, but some of those things take years to master. sir What I do takes days to master if you really want to. Then you can get everything out of it you want. So it isn't the exercise. It's what's here and what's here while you're doing the exercise and then everything happens. You know, there's a point with iso extremes and everyone mocks them and says, well, I do iso extremes. So I know everything Jay does. ah Okay.
01:02:40
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At three minutes, there's something frickin' amazingly awesome that happens. And only two people that I have ever met in my life understood that. One of them I married, and one of them has now been working with me for 25 years. I think it's 25. If not, it's really close, okay? They understood that. But over all these years, with all the people I've ever, no one ever,
01:03:08
Speaker
Because what's really cool, and I put it out on a little podcast and I don't know if Charles has put it on our our YouTube thing yet, but we create such a high vibration in our right brain that you're actually removed from your being.
01:03:27
Speaker
You're this spirit, kind of like an all knowing, all seeing. You feel and see everything. It is so amazing. That's what ISO extremes afford the opportunity. But nobody ever does it appropriately enough to get to that point. But when you do, oh my God.
01:03:46
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You know, and one other thing I want to say to parents, and it's really important. You know, your kids go out and they train and they come home and they, yeah, I had a good bench day or, oh man, I really feel my legs. Man, I'm really feeling my hamstrings. I must've done a thousand glued hams today. We are built in such a way, Russell, and I know you know this, but I directed to you because you're doing the podcast. We are built in such a way that if we do it right, we feel absolutely nothing. When you bench press and you do it right, you feel nothing. You know, in your career as an athlete and parents can think about that and their kids can think about this, because at some point we all reach this where we've done something beyond what we knew we could do or what others thought we could do in your coach or your teammates, your spouse, your whoever came up to you and said, Russell, how did you do that?
01:04:44
Speaker
And the answer is always the same. I don't know. Right? We don't know. It just it happened. That's when we get this extreme vibration in the right brain and it happens without knowing. We all know how to walk. We all know how to run. If we've run before, or watch someone run or ride a bike or lift a weight. We already know how to do it.
01:05:08
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And then they make us go practice it sub-maximally with velocity, position is not even talked about, and any of those things. And you might go, oh, I got a better lift today. I did more than I used to. But you never demonstrate it again. The cool thing is that you want to do it day after day after day after day on command.
01:05:30
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No preparation away without belts and wraps and straps and, you know, all these other accompanying devices. So they all make money I lifted more. I lifted more. But like I got to do it. I have to put on all my gear first. Exactly. Bring bring Jesse Owens back. Bring Jim Thorpe back. And they'll dominate today just like they did because of humans aren't better today. I don't believe that at all.
01:05:58
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In some aspects, they may have raised the level, but humans overall are not better today. Technology has allowed humanity to take advantage of their frailty and have some increased performance.
01:06:12
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but we are nowhere close to what God intended for us as our ability to perform and recover.
Living Fully and Podcast Conclusion
01:06:20
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The closest I've ever had, to be honest with you, I've had three, and the closest one, and ah only because she's been diseased for all these years, is Helene.
01:06:31
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How much more could be taken from her than cancer and chemo have taken from her? And yet she still performs at a level that other people only go, oh, you're amazing, Helene. I could never do that. the The lesson from Helene is not in the running. The lesson is that she can do that. It doesn't matter how far she runs, how many times. That's not what's to be admired. What's to be admired is what's here.
01:06:59
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Oh, yeah. That is so important and so key. You know, when your son came out, it took us a week or two to get him to believe that, that he was a miracle to have him understand. He could do whatever the hell he wanted to do. And he did need to spend hours upon hours. I'm sure he told you how much time per day we spent. And it wasn't a tenth of what he normally does. And you can achieve these results. It's in your participatory level.
01:07:26
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He was out there two months, two workouts a day, and he was working in between, eating as much as he could possibly eat.
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The heaviest weight he lifted, he's told me, was eight pounds. yeah He went from 195 to 204 and he came back like I'd never seen him before, i mean or since actually. He's like, it was it was amazing. It was amazing, um you know that focus time. so Yeah. Well, I appreciate your time today, Jay. You want to tell us one quick story about why a guy of your age um drives motorcycles at such a high rate of speed? Yeah, we also it's really easy. It's really easy. Let's just say that because of those brain injuries that I recognized probably about
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e 28 years ago, I really figured that out, the brain injuries. I have challenges to work within today. And I chose to do something that if you do it wrong, you die.
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You know, sometimes, you know, like this is how my right hand moves. That's not very good for getting on the brake at 231 miles an hour. And if you squeeze too hard, you flip over and you die. If you don't squeeze enough, you run off the end and you can decapitate yourself because a lot of barbed wire at the end of these runways and you die. um If you mess up in any way, if you push the handlebar a little too far, the wheel tucks underneath you, you die. If you hit the rear brake too hard, the back end goes out from underneath you and you die.
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That's how I test my nervous system. That's how I test how efficient my training is for me. I'll do it until my last breath because that is my test. Of course I enjoy it because I enjoy overcoming obstacles. I have no feeling in my left hip all the way to my foot. I have no feeling my right leg knee down. I have absolutely no feeling in my head.
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my My left hand, okay, here you go. Here's clutch hand. It's really not easy to pull in the clutch when you work like that. And yet I can go out there and I've done 217 and a half mile from zero to 217 to 20 mile an hour to make a 180 degree turn to get out the facing the other way on the runway to go back to the pit area in 21 seconds.
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okay Now, if you don't do everything right, yeah death is a real thing. Or being severely injured is real. That's why I do it. I chose to do something that I was challenged by life. I enjoy living, Russell. I enjoy that. And I want to do it to its fullest every moment of every day that I have. That's how I know that I'm on the right track and I can sit here and do a podcast with you.
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and then go write programs for six or eight hours. That's why I do it. All right. ah Better man than me on that level. I fell off bad one time and that was enough for me. yeah but But I do other things. I do. That's right. We all apply it in our own and our own way, right? Yes, sir. That's what it's supposed to be.
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Yes sir. Well, that's a wrap and I hope everyone enjoyed today's episode and you got some takeaways that you can use. More information on Jay will be in the notes.
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