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Clayton Oliver OUT! PLUS: Bargains, Byes, Ben Hobbs, and Baileys' | Round 10 AFL Fantasy #PODPOD
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Clayton Oliver is confirmed out ahead of round 11, handing nearly 40% of the competition a forced trade to start the week. In a year when it's harder than ever to rise the ranks in an incredibly competitive season 2023 of AFL Fantasy, the POD Squad have you covered as the byes lie around the corner.
Harmey, Holmesy, Lewy, and Dos look at some bargains, discuss the plethora of 'rookie' options, and reveal the Fossil's 5 for the week!
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Transcript
00:00:02
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Introduction and Overview
00:00:17
Speaker
G'day, and welcome to the Pod Pod. It's ya boi, Darcy, talkin' all things AFL fantasy on this Monday night, May 22nd, 2023. Another big week of fantasy to digest. We'll be recapping the round, looking at the hot topics, and going through a stack of listener requests. As always, we've got the full Pod Squad, minus a particular fossil tonight. The Stado is not on deck, so no doubt, much less waffling tonight. Holmesy, welcome aboard, mate. Let's hear your score and rank, and how are you?
00:00:47
Speaker
Yeah, Dossie, not too bad. Thanks, mate. Go on, all right. And just before we do get started into how we went for the week, I just want to just give a quick sort of shout out to the fantasy community at the moment, the guys that are doing the podcast every week.
Community Acknowledgements
00:01:02
Speaker
You know, there's a lot of us that give a lot of our time for these podcasts, and a lot of us have had pretty down years through some injuries, but through a bit of bad luck as well.
00:01:11
Speaker
It is bloody stressful being on these podcasts and it's really hard work having to give your opinion and fronting up every week when you're not going so well. So I do just want to give a bit of a shout out to those that are still putting in the hard work and giving it all to the fantasy community because it has been quite tough. So just wanted to start that off and get that off my chest.
Fantasy Scores and Rankings
00:01:30
Speaker
But yeah, I had a good week, 23.51 for myself.
00:01:33
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bit of a bounce back, which was good to see. Few underwhelming scores as well, but the fact that I had a JJ 43 and still managed to have a week above par was very, very positive. Felt like you were speaking directly to me there, Holmsey. I really feel that from you, man. I appreciate those kind words as I battle through the season. Louis on deck as well today, mate. How was your weekend?
00:01:58
Speaker
Yeah, it was good, mate. I was a little bit under par, I think, so I scored a $22.87, which takes me out to rank $6,506. So I've just been floating in that sort of $6,000 range for a couple of weeks now, so hoping I can have a good week and break that barrier.
00:02:17
Speaker
Tell you what, it's just at the moment, you have a great, you think you're having a great week. It feels like it's just this year, feel like you're having a great week and you just plummet down the road. Like you, 2200s and 2300s now just pie. It's the, what is it? Is it just the, the community at whole is just, I feel like this is just the most competitive we've seen fantasy. I'm sitting around the 20 K market. I can't budge anywhere, even with a good week.
00:02:45
Speaker
Yeah, it's interesting, Dos. I think part of it is the fact that there's just so much good content out there at the moment that coaches just know how to play the game so much better now, like with what Selby's done with a lot of the other podcasts that have really upped their game. There's definitely that. That was an interesting stat, one of my mates.
00:03:02
Speaker
Michael put it in our group chat this morning so he's actually he's put 300 points more on his total this year to this round and he's sitting about five or six thousand ranks back so yeah the community is just a hell of a lot better at playing the game this year.
00:03:18
Speaker
Yeah, I'd love to see our man, Jayden Popowski, who's not our man, I don't even know him, but I'd like to see his stats out there. I'd love to see some stats from my cousin, Jayden Popowski on something like that about how just how competitive it is. And if it is just us thinking that, but it certainly seems that way that it's just an absolute competitive year. Hami, how are you
Competitiveness and Content Quality
00:03:38
Speaker
tracking, mate? Good to see you again. I reckon you've been the most consistent on the Pod Pod this year. You're a stalwart member these days.
00:03:45
Speaker
yeah oh thanks dossie yeah i'm going pretty well mate um had a pretty busy weekend but uh still uh keeping an eye on all the fantasy stuff uh scored 2280 and that puts my rank to 6288 so i actually went back 500 spots with you're spot on with that stuff before like
00:04:05
Speaker
2280 like I was pretty happy with that and then you look at some of the scores at the top end like 2500 600 crazy some crazy stuff but um some some sort of popular players I suppose went big and that helped us people like um harris sheasel and um yeah ashcroft there which we've all got dossie
00:04:26
Speaker
Yeah, very good. Very good, Homme. I want to say as well, the Twitter community shouted you out this week. I think it was at the end of last week saying that Homme, a two-time top 10 finisher, needs more cred in the community. I couldn't agree more. Maybe we don't shout out your credentials enough. Same with Homme. You've got the two hats as well, don't you, Homme? We sometimes forget that we have some
00:04:49
Speaker
Fantastic coaches on here and Louie and I, no doubt, pretty close behind on those, those hat tallies there. But let's get into our Lux for the week. And Holmsey, do you want to kick it off, mate? Who was your Lux? Hang on, Dossie. Are we just going to, we're just going to skip over how you went for the round? Are we not, are we not talking about that?
00:05:14
Speaker
$22.55, dropped 400 ranks. No, I came in 400 ranks, $22,427.
Standout Performances of the Week
00:05:21
Speaker
Your lucks, homie. Yeah, look, I'm just going to give a special shout out to Zach Butters on the Friday night for his $148. That was just absolutely unbelievable to watch, not only from a fantasy perspective, but that's probably one of the better games of football I've seen from any player full stock in what I can remember over the last couple of years. So that was fantastic.
00:05:42
Speaker
I'm going to give it to Andy Brayshaw who was my trade-in for the week. I went to the game 135 and I put the vice captain on him as well so although I was going to go to Ranto anyway as my full back option to get an extra 15 points as captain when I'm desperately in need of points was quite good.
00:06:00
Speaker
Lew, who have you got, mate? Keeping positive here. My luck's got to go to Dylan Williams. So the last three games, he's popped out a 78 average, and 82 on the weekend at F6 was really quite nice to see. And when you're arming and arring over Luckey Peddler there instead, and you get the one that gets plus 40 on that, then you've got to be pretty happy. So I've got to give it to him. That's huge. What have you got for us, Hami?
00:06:27
Speaker
This one's for all the believers. It stayed strong with my man, Jack McRae, 117. Had to go to Ballarat to pop the 100, but very impressive stuff from the win.
00:06:42
Speaker
Oh, how good is it? I think we've got a few owners on this show and we were so overjoyed to see that coming to us. And still the low CBA, so do we get a chance at DPP next round as well, lads? Do we get that, do we think? Unless there's the Bevo Factor this week and he plays full-time mid, which let's be honest, it's still a nervous wait. Yeah, you would think that that forward status is almost certain from here.
00:07:09
Speaker
Does it make you more inclined to keep him than Dospy if he gets forward status? You're not going to look at chucking him out at the bias? Yeah, I might have to hold him now. But I mean, I think those tons are going to be few and far between. Hopefully, he's kicked into gear now. But that was a pretty fantasy-friendly game for a few players there. So we'll wait and see.
Player Struggles and Injuries
00:07:28
Speaker
But gee, it would be great to have a little bit of DPP action from a crater to sour those wounds. All right, so my player this week,
00:07:38
Speaker
And my lucks, it's got to be the man that I dumped Will Ashcroft for. And he outscored him this week. Big humor cluggage with the 128 and my lucks pick. What a point of difference. He went out, got myself the 128. Will Ashcroft scores the measly 127. So it was a worthwhile trade. Absolutely no regrets there. And he's doing me proud, is the cluggote.
00:08:22
Speaker
Nah, just head in hands, mate. I'm just a little bit upset that you managed to claw that one point back on me with clogage over Ashcroft, mate. I'm reeling in my boots. Hang on, do you want to tell the story of you in the group chat this week as well, saying, oh, Doss, he's coming home strong here. He's making some big ground on me. I was up and about. I go and check the score. And what happened there, Omsi?
00:08:28
Speaker
Ah, it's time for our sucks.
00:08:48
Speaker
Look, there needs to be a bit of context. I did forget that you didn't have Roland Marshall, Dossie, so I'm at work and I've just logged in at my phone and I've seen you're about 80 points ahead of me with a half to play something and oh, you know, Dossie's actually gone pretty well here.
00:09:01
Speaker
And then, yeah, obviously, I forgot you didn't have Royal Martial, and then Liam Stocker decided to go on an absolute tear in that second half as well, so talk about kissed. So that's where, yeah, a bit of smug behavior, Dossie, but yeah, I was pretty happy. My sucks, and this just keeps going from bad to worse, but Brad Crouch has completely forgotten how to football, so he will be going for me at the
Strategies for Dealing with Injuries
00:09:23
Speaker
bias. I hope he can just get me a 90-plus score this week against Hawthorne to stop the bleeding too much, which will mean I'll be able to
00:09:31
Speaker
Flick him to a decent premium on his round 12 by that. Yeah Brad crouch not good It's been a rough one for you been a rough journey with the Brad crouch Louie. What about you?
00:09:42
Speaker
I'll probably give it to JJ going down about halfway through that game on 43 or whatever it was probably on track again for another 85 plus and a nice little pick to see me through to the round 15 buyer but unfortunately it just wasn't to be and I think it's come out since that it's gonna miss eight to ten weeks so that's a forced trade now.
00:10:02
Speaker
Any of these major bullets where players are playing such limited time on ground, obviously the meal was won the other week, JJ this week, there's a few others. If you just get any score basically 40 and below, with the competitive nature this year, you're just not moving anywhere. I think that's what we're talking about. You get one of those and you're stuffed and you get two like me, then you're righteously screwed. All right, Hami, who was your sucks?
00:10:25
Speaker
Yeah, a little long and similar lines there, Dossie. My sucks goes to the AFL sub rule because I had Hollands get subbed out on field for 32, so that was a shame. But I also had Harry Sharp, Blake Drury, Cozzie Pickett, Reuben Jimby, all subbed as well. Yeah, it's a rough scenes, mate, but they weren't all on field, surely.
00:10:50
Speaker
They weren't all subbed either, were they? No, just hold on, it's on field, mate. Well, it probably serves me right, you know, having a rookie on field, but still, I thought he'd, you know, after the last few weeks, he's been pretty good, so it's a shame to see him subbed out. Like, he got subbed early two and a third, sort of, you know, yep.
00:11:11
Speaker
You're a strong man for not giving it to Cozy there, army. He was on the bench. Let me take that from you there. I was actually going to go for the Bureau of Meteorology, predicting, you know, saying it was a pretty fine day from what I was looking at out here at Adelaide. Pretty fine day all day, sun was out.
00:11:35
Speaker
Check the weather. Not too bad. You know, maybe a meal that night. And what did we get that? That was an absolute slot fest on the Friday night. I was watching the footy with you, Louis, and Bails actually, from the lads over there.
00:11:51
Speaker
We were sitting in the beautiful dry dryness about 10 minutes from the Oval all game. I think we saw a sprinkle for the whole time. There must have just been one of those cartoon clouds hanging over the top of bloody the Adelaide Oval. And yes, Cozy pick it in the wet for a 28 point game. And oh my goodness, I could not wait for the lockout to lift to dump that. That's been my worst pick of the season by far. I know Stado had him as a bullet this weekend.
00:12:20
Speaker
Who wants to do the honours and read out Stado's score for the week? Because uh... I don't know, where is it boys? I haven't even, haven't looked at it. It wasn't above 2200 was it? Let me, let me do it. 2185?
00:12:39
Speaker
I think it was, let's have a look. 2192 for the Foss. And look, I'm going to go out on a limb and say Jason Johansson and Cosi Pickett would have been in his sucks of the week as well, holding both, as did I. Looks like he brought in Locky Ash as well for 64. So that wasn't the sugar hit he was hoping for. So yeah, a bit of a rough week for the Foss. And that Maxi Gorn trade at the moment, taken Royal Marshal out a couple of weeks ago for Max Gorn.
00:13:09
Speaker
really might be the panic trade of the season for the force. So that's why I've seen your moment. To be honest though, you've got to make moves. You've got to make moves. You don't win the comp by playing it safe. You do well by playing safe.
00:13:25
Speaker
He's been up there before. You've got to take these kind of risks and sometimes it doesn't pay off. Especially when you're up there, he's probably trying to differentiate himself because he was around the 100 mark, wasn't he? So, yeah, fair enough. Didn't pay off this one, but give it a bit of time throughout that buy period. He sort of is a plan for the buy period. So we'll see what happens over there. But is that why he's called in sick tospy?
00:13:45
Speaker
Exactly right mate. I feel like that's the only reason we don't see him when he doesn't do well. So maybe for the next couple of weeks we'll expect him to be away. Tune in to hat chat later on this afternoon and you'll hear Stado.
00:13:57
Speaker
Yeah, every other show, probably this week, you'll hear the great man, but not on here where he's going to cough it. Ah, no, good luck to the boss in the coming weeks. All right, let's do a quick update on the Content Creators Cup, run by Gesty, obviously sponsored by Infinite Wealth there. And you can go get yourself a little bit of a trial through their Infinite Wealth thing, so go hit them up and find out all about that.
00:14:19
Speaker
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00:14:35
Speaker
Yeah, he's saying it's worth up to, you know, three grand or something for some clients. So it's something that he's doing this year for the fantasy community exclusively to them. So, um, and he's also obviously giving away some money for charity based on the, uh, the winners of this league, Louie. Hey Kyle, are you able to apply it to your team value there?
00:14:55
Speaker
Uh, Louie, I actually had you in the content this week, mate, and I wiped the floor with you, mate. So speaking of homes, he defeated Louie in the, in the pod pod show down there. Uh, Dossie went down admirably to Matt from the break even pod. And then Stano got absolutely pounded by warning and some, uh,
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Speaker
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00:15:45
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00:16:13
Speaker
onto hot topics this week. And there's a big one that luckily we, you know, recording at this at around six o'clock on a Monday, we've got some news from Mitch Cleary and Holmes, do you want to talk about what Clayton Oliver owners have to expect in the coming weeks?
00:16:34
Speaker
Yeah, so Mitch Cleary has just reported that it is confirmed that Clary Oliver has a hamstring strain and he's going to be sidelined for the short term. So they are deliberately being vague with it. They've said that he'll be touch and go to play any footy up until they're by, which is in four weeks time. We know that a hamstring is typically anywhere from that sort of two to three weeks, depending on how severe it is.
00:16:58
Speaker
Yeah, look, I think it's a forced trade at this time of year. You can't really be affording to carry a fully priced premium through the buyers if they're not playing, which is unfortunate for owners. But yeah, I'd be pretty happy that he managed to play out the game, still get a 108, and it wasn't a mid-game sub, which would have hurt you a little bit more. So be thankful you still got the cash on his head to really deal with it. But in saying that, it is Clary Oliver, and if anyone's going to come back after a week or two, it's him.
00:17:28
Speaker
Yeah, you might get bit if he comes back a week after, but I think it probably is the risk you need to take at this stage.
Rookie Selection Strategies
00:17:36
Speaker
Not taking into account your buy structure and stuff like that, Hami, what are the options that you'd like to do from Clayton Oliver? Obviously, he's got a massive price tag on his head, so where would you go if you're a Clayton Oliver owner and you're going to trade him?
00:17:49
Speaker
You'd need a premium and this time of year you'd be looking for a premium that suits your buyer structure, I suppose. I mean, probably a little bit reluctant to trade in a round 12 buyer player if you're only going to get one game out of them before they miss a week. But, yeah, you have to take a premium player there. You're not going to sort of split his value across anybody cheaper, I don't reckon. So, I mean, there's options around that mark too. Some people like you, Zach Merritt, that's down a little bit and pumped a big score on the weekend, that sort of player, I reckon.
00:18:18
Speaker
Yeah, even a Rory lead, if you don't have him, look like he's back in some ripping format. And, Louis, even though he does have the early buy, you like a Jack Steele as well in that spot? Yeah, if it fits your buy structure, it's fine. Obviously, all players over the next couple of weeks are going to miss one, and the Hawthorne matchup this week for the Saints hopefully might be a nice one for him.
00:18:40
Speaker
What I will say, Dossie, just on that before you go, if you do really like a player, and it might not necessarily fit your buy structure 100%, but you do really like them and you think they're going to be a smash pick for the end of the year, just do it. So I traded in Andy Brayshaw this year, even though he's got the buy next week. So I was only getting two games out of him and the smart play would have just been to wait until he's had his buy.
00:19:04
Speaker
and get him off his buy, but he was priced at $9.30. He's come out and had a $1.35. If he comes out and has another $1.20 plus game this week against Melbourne, then all of a sudden he's gone from $9.30K to $9.60K, $9.70K, $9.80K, and you're paying an extra $50K just to wait two weeks for him. So if the price is right, I don't see an issue jumping. Like, yeah, it's not ideal, but you're still going to get games out of them in the next three, four weeks when other premiums are missing.
00:19:33
Speaker
Now, speaking of some options that we're looking at, we've talked about it for weeks, that that rookie cupboard is bare, but it doesn't seem so bare now. The only problem is we're having to pay up a little bit of a premium for these guys. I wanted to talk to you, Louis, about some strategy around this because we have a lot of tempting players and maybe you're going to walk us through some of these options with a couple of players going, as you mentioned at the top of the show as well, a guy,
00:20:00
Speaker
from Port that's been just carving it up lately and he was a great player to jump on. Now we've got to kind of get these next wave like I'm talking about you Dylan Williams who's the next guy that we're going to jump on over these buy rounds as well to make that cash. Yeah and that's the question Dossie so this year is definitely a struggle in terms of rookies and certainly this time of year. We're seeing a lot of coaches trading into and through no fault of their own but it's blokes like a Drury, a Sheldrick
00:20:29
Speaker
potentially a sharp the next few weeks, you know, chess early, all these rookies that maybe don't have the job security or aren't going to string games together. And as we approach the buyers, that's going to become more important than ever. So that's that whole thing about wanting to minimize the amount of red dots on our field so that we give ourselves the best opportunity to get through the buyers with at least 18 players on field each week. So going through some of these names, there's certainly players and
00:20:58
Speaker
That's where we can get sort of tricked up where we pick somebody who, yes he's playing, maybe he's priced at 223k. It suits, it gets me the premium on the other end, but next week you find out that he's not going to get another game and it's unlikely he's going to play for the rest of the year and all of a sudden you've stunted all your cash growth. So that's where we've got to be careful. I think there's a few names like that that we do have in that list at the moment and I'd probably put
00:21:25
Speaker
McAndrew from Sydney Swans in that. He's the new upcoming ruck. Yes, he might play this week. Then he's got the buy and then it's who knows. So I think that's one that we can minimise our risk and not trade into. I think a Kane Baldwin from the Bombers could potentially be in that bracket too. Harmony, what do you think about that one, mate?
00:21:44
Speaker
Yeah, I think he actually played okay on the weekend, but I still don't really think he's got much longevity in the team. Like I don't really see him as a key back and really, really played a good game. So yeah, I might be wrong. I have been wrong with some other players, but I really think he's only there very briefly.
00:22:02
Speaker
Yeah I've probably got a sharp in that category too. I know he's a popular trade in last week but it's just going to be hard to break into that Lions team. We've already seen that he's been subbed. A butler from the Hawks could be another one. Even a Phoenix Spicer who looked okay on the weekend could quite easily turn around and drop something quite putrid and be straight out as well. Holmes have you got your hand up mate?
00:22:27
Speaker
Yeah, I just wanted to say that's the issue with these rookies that we're paying upwards of 300k for. So it definitely can work out if you pick the right player and that's where it all comes into it, right? The fantasy IQ of being able to pick the right one. But if we take an Arty Jones, for example, now he was never an option this week, but I just used the price point. So he was 320k. He'd strung a few good games together and he has pretty good job security.
00:22:51
Speaker
but he comes out on the weekend and pumps a 24. If you trade into someone like that at that price range and they get subbed for a low score, all their cash gen is done and you've wasted a trade on someone that might only make you 20, 30K if that.
Rookie Trading and Cash Generation
00:23:04
Speaker
So that's the risk with these 300K players. You really need to be super confident
00:23:09
Speaker
in the game.
00:23:24
Speaker
How often have we seen rookies come out in their first game and absolutely smash it and play it out of their skin, only to get tired two, three weeks later and then they're subbed or they're putting up their low par scores. And if Wardlaw puts up a couple of 40s and 50s, then he might not get much more than 400K and you've only really made 75K, Hami.
00:23:42
Speaker
Seeing what Wardlaw did though and the road that they gave him, I think that he's actually going to be all right for a while. High draft pick, North not going any good. They'll be wanting to give him every opportunity that they can. I sort of made a mistake on the weekend. I brought in Sharp over Wardlaw for two reasons. The cash, instant cash gen, like Sharp had a lower break even. I thought if you've got an all right score, he'll go up a fair bit. So now they're currently the same price, but
00:24:09
Speaker
Also because North, I thought, man, he's probably the last player picked in their lineup, looking at the calibre of players that they had coming in, but they gave him the role, didn't they? So I think that he's going to be quite a good pick.
00:24:23
Speaker
I'd 100% agree, but we just have to look back to Ruben Ginby in round one. Exact same thing. Played out of his skin, had the midfield role, tackled hard, looked very good. But we know these rookies tie. That's the only concern. That's just the one flag I want to put up. But you're right. It is unbelievable.
00:24:41
Speaker
That's just about mitigating your risk as well because on the other end, these are the sorts of players that can skyrocket you up. It goes back to the start of the year, a constable and a hunt. Chincotta a couple of weeks ago, even Chase Jones a few weeks ago was in that sort of price rise and gave a couple of coaches something.
00:25:00
Speaker
you know if we can find the right rookies there are ways of doing it. Dylan Williams was away two weeks ago when he was 367k which is certainly a premium price for a rookie but he's made 100k since then probably going to make another 50 to 80k and
00:25:15
Speaker
those coaches that did trade in to him and will be trading out to him after his buyer are much better off for having taken that risk and there's a couple of guys in that price range so I just wanted to run these guys off of you and that's a Josh Weddle at 395k minus five break even has the Saints coming up just before his buy
00:25:35
Speaker
As well as a Bailey Humphrey at 423k with a minus three breakeven These are two rookies that I think should have some pretty good job security over the next couple of weeks But are we thinking they're a little bit too pricey to jump on now? Is that that boat a sail type thing?
00:25:54
Speaker
I reckon Humphries going to be a good shout and I'm going to make money if I go from Hollands down to him this week. So also the round 13 buys quite appealing. So I think he's yeah, it's a shame didn't get on him last week, but I think he's probably at a low enough price point. And with that break even with the role that he's been given at the moment we took out, I think he's probably still worth a roll. You can probably pick him.
00:26:20
Speaker
Does it not concern you, Hami, this week, having the Bulldogs in, is it Darwin or one of those suburban grounds? If, you know, coming up against a tough Bulldogs midfield unit, yeah, you might get a bit of a sugar hit. But if he drops a 40 this week, all of his cash gens done. You know what? That's actually one of the reasons why I didn't select him last week, because I thought that they were going to have a tough game against the Lions.
00:26:45
Speaker
So he didn't have any trouble, did he? He actually looked really good. Like he was breaking the lines and kept bursting at a stoppage. He was actually played really well. Yeah. I mean, he did have that draft pedigree coming in. I remember the dusty comparisons thrown around. I got excited about a clip from the VFL early days. He had the most inside 50s, the highest meters gained on the ground. Second, equal most clearances and equal most fantasy points alongside Manny Rao.
00:27:14
Speaker
Yeah, out of those options, I definitely prefer Humphrey to Weddle though, but I'd be interested in you guys' thoughts on that as well. But yeah, Humphrey for me is the preferred option if you are going to spend up on one of those rookies. But I also think that Wardlaw is the preferred option just because you're paying 100k less. He's got the midfield role as well. So seems like nods all around from the lads here on that call.
00:27:38
Speaker
What about if you're going to play him on field, Dospy? Like, if you had to play him on field, could you say you've got Cosi Pickett in your forward line? Who would you take, Wardlaw or Humphrey? I mean, I feel like I'd still pay the 100k less for Wardlaw because I feel like the other player on the other end is going to make up those points. So that's where I'd be going. But I do think, you know, over the next few weeks, Humphrey's going to average more, but I feel like the cash gen might be similar at this point.
00:28:09
Speaker
Sorry, I was just going to say Wardlaw will not have it as easy this week against Clive. Yeah. No, he won't. But Hami mentioned it would have been great to get on this Humphrey and Josh Weddle last week. And I think George Wardlaw is in that great little area right now where if we can trade into him this week with that sixth break even, yes, you're paying 327K, but with the examples I've given you earlier before,
00:28:35
Speaker
paying up for these rookies has actually been almost the right thing to do this year so far because you're banking that job security and you're trying to bank as much cash over a number of weeks as possible.
Buy Round Strategies and Risks
00:28:46
Speaker
So I'm thinking George Wardlaw should almost be the number one rookie target this week. Do you guys agree with that? Yeah. In that price bracket, yeah.
00:28:55
Speaker
in that price bracket and then that's when we jump down you're looking at a Matthew Johnson for three hundred and ten K. Is he going to continue to be the sub who knows it's it's not a bad pun if you can if you know he's going to be in that top twenty two but it's one that I'd be a bit cautious of Campbell Chester if you don't have him with the fourteen break even.
00:29:16
Speaker
I mean, he's going to get opportunity. The Eagles are really struggling at the moment. Hardly have a fit list. Cameron Fleeton, I'd be keen on your thoughts here, Holmsey. He's 220K. He's got the 12 break even. I would have thought he's got some shaky job security, but perhaps the heads-in coming and Haynes out of that side might help his job security. I know it's a different role, but it's still a couple of numbers out of the side.
00:29:42
Speaker
Yeah, I would think with Haynes going down and Cumming being out, his job security would actually be okay in the short term. And, and he went down. I was going to say another name you brought out last week. I wish you had brought him in for a 25. That would have been unreal. But yeah, what happened with him?
00:29:57
Speaker
Cause he didn't, he didn't play out the game either, did he? So I think I was watching, I think it was a concussion as well. I'd have to, yeah. Yeah. So you should definitely play this week. You would have thought with going out, just watch this space buzz. Cause yeah, he was playing that backline role as well before he got concussed. So Himmelberg's going to be super cheap, um, coming after the buy. And he might be that savior that we're looking for as the cheap option. But.
00:30:27
Speaker
And then finally the cheap option of the rookies, if he gets named, is the bloke who's been brought up for about nine weeks in a row now and that's Josh Fahey in the twos. If he gets opportunity, he's absolutely tearing it in the VFL and he'd be someone I'd be relatively confident to even jump on straight away just because of the GWS track record across this year. They've given their kids a couple of weeks to sort of find their feet and I'd back that in again.
00:30:55
Speaker
All right, let's get to our observation round table. We've only got a couple of points here. Holmesy, do you want to take away?
00:31:02
Speaker
Yeah, mine's just once again revolving around the buyers, and we have kind of had this discussion, and I know this is a big reason that Stado brought in Max Gorn two weeks ago to fit buyer structure, but just forwards that we're gonna be able to play on field in round 15 when all of our forwards that we have currently are on the buy. So if I talk you through some of the teams that have the round 15 buy, so Carlton, no one really relevant there, but GWS, so anyone rolling with a Canelio, he's not gonna be available.
00:31:30
Speaker
We've got Kangaroos, so Jack Ziebel or Harry Sheezer if you're still rolling with them in the forward line. Port Adelaide, Zack Budders, Connor Rosie, Weston Bulldog, so if you've got a Macrae swinging forward, if you've got Baz Smith, there's two other options there.
00:31:45
Speaker
Yes, it's all well and good to maybe be able to get one of those guys up during the buys, but who are we going to trade into? That's the issue. So you're going to have all of the teams coming off the round 12, 13 and 14 buyers, but outside of an Errol Goulden who's quite highly owned, I'm not sure I'm going to be able to go there knowing that he's well over 900k now and you're going to be paying pretty much overs for him potentially.
00:32:09
Speaker
I'm not seeing a lot of other options. Maybe a very, very cheap nap five come round 15 when he's built up to full match fitness. If you can go sideways from a rookie, that might be a play. But, you know, you've got Max Gorn who's potentially going to get forward status, but the round 14 players, they're not exactly screaming premium players that you can hold for any sort of amount of time. And I'm not really keen on jumping onto a player just for the sake of having one extra body on during the buy. So, Hami, what are you thinking?
00:32:38
Speaker
I was just going to mention, too, that we've already touched on tonight that might help you through, well, what do we say, six weeks just to get just a bit outside of that by period. And that's Bailey Humphrey is around 13 by player and Ben Hobbs is around 14 by player. So there's two.
00:32:56
Speaker
Yeah, Humphrey, you've sold me a little bit more on him, Hami, although I am a little bit nervous. I'm not sure I'm going to get 100k out of him, but you're right. There's a play. Hobbs, I'm still not sold on. That game on the weekend was so far an outlier in terms of fantasy points scored. All of the Essendon players went absolutely bonkers when they were just holding the ball off Richmond. That was clearly their game style. Yes, they have the Eagles this week, so there's probably another sugar hit coming along there.
00:33:26
Speaker
But that role, 30% CVAs, low time on ground. Everyone talks about this amazing run that they have coming up, but they have North Melbourne, who North Melbourne like to possess the ball as well, which means that they're gonna be holding the footy away from Essendon. And then you've got Carlton, who also play that high possession, keep you off style as well. So the match-ups aren't actually as good as what we're all talking about. So although coaches were very good at getting that 92 this week,
Managing Buy Rounds Effectively
00:33:53
Speaker
I can't get that 92 so trading into him now if you if he just goes back to being that 70 75 type player I'm not sure there's heaps of value there and it's just another mid price so that I'm trading into my team when I'm trying to get them all up.
00:34:07
Speaker
I think he's probably a little bit higher than your 70-75 that you've given him there. So he looked really good. He found space. He had a few marks, kicks and that sort of thing. His role was the fourth mid. So they started most quarters with merit.
00:34:23
Speaker
String up and Caldwell was in there and then Hobbs will come off the bench normally. What happens when Dylan Scheel comes back next week? I don't think he's back next week. I think he's a little bit longer than that. But look, it depends how the bombers are going I suppose. Doesn't it? Like you can invest time into Ben Hobbs first round draft pick midfielder inside midfielder or Dylan Scheel.
00:34:50
Speaker
I think they're going quite well. It's $459k. I think that might be the exact price. We were looking at Braden Feorini a couple of weeks ago, albeit Feorini's got a lot more runs on the board, so I don't know who it might be. I regret that pick, Louis. Like, Feorini saved his score on the weekend. Don't say that, man.
00:35:12
Speaker
I knew you were coming in, I knew you were coming in, Dossie. But he's just one of those, I would feel quite ill trading into him now, not getting that 92. And if he puts up, I know Hami said it, he's a little bit higher than 75. And if he is fantastic, it's a great pick. I'm just, I'm still a little bit reserved, that's all. That's just, I'm just my flag, personal flag, that's all. Yeah, no, fair enough too.
00:35:32
Speaker
All right. Well, I know there's another name from Essendon that our listeners want to talk about a little bit later, but we'll hold off on that. My final observation, which is just a roundtable discussion and it's just an admission. And I bet you some listeners are the same. They're just too afraid to say it. Every time you guys have talked about the eight, 10, 12 stuff. Look, it's been a year. I've got the memory of a goldfish.
00:35:58
Speaker
I genuinely don't know what you're talking about. I don't, I look at my team and I don't get it. Can someone explain it to me? Real basic, real simple, so that the listeners and other dossies out there can understand what you mean. And what am I looking at when I look at my teams? It ain't playing, ain't missing, what? Just tell me.
00:36:17
Speaker
All right, Dos. So you want eight players missing in round 12. So that hypothetically, if you've got 30 green dots, that means you've got 22 on field. You need to have it balanced. You can't have eight players playing in defense and only four players playing in the forward line because you won't be able to get all players on field because you only get your best 18 coming from your 22 playing. And then when round 13 rolls around, you've got 10
00:36:44
Speaker
10 players not playing but you're able to use your 3 trades to trade players on their buy to the players coming off their buy so that you have another 22 on field. And then by the time round, the next round rolls, you originally had 12 players missing that buy but you used your 3 trades again to try and get 21, 22 on field. So that's what we're looking at for the 8, 10, 12.
00:37:04
Speaker
It obviously has changed a little bit this year with the four buy rounds, but I've been kind of trying to play it the same way, where I look to have eight players missing in total from the first two buy rounds, so around 12 and around 13, and then looking to play it kind of similar.
Evaluating Players and Trade Strategies
00:37:18
Speaker
Albeit, this year with the rookies, we don't really have the downgrade options coming through, so it might work a little bit differently this year compared to years gone by, but that's generally how we've kind of played it over the years.
00:37:29
Speaker
Mate, that was unreal. Just usually I've got the stado for 30 minutes he's explained. I just tune out, man. So I appreciate that, Holmesy. And I think all the listeners that were struggling to figure out what was going on will now be right to go. Let's get onto our Pod Pod listener requests you can send in yours. At the start of the week, we put out a tweet, usually on a Monday, at Pod Pod AFL on Twitter. And you give us the number one name that you want to be talking about. We talk about as many as we can.
00:37:57
Speaker
And one big one this week was Dom Shade. So is there any interest? He was one of the height names in the pre-season. I think a few of you started with him, but he's looking much better now than he did at the start of the season with those career savers in tow and really looking a bit unfit. But is there any interest in him at the moment, at his price, low 700Ks? Holmes, are you keen on a Dom Shade?
00:38:25
Speaker
I'm not Dossi, and maybe that is because I have been burnt this season already, having started with him. What I will say is that it's a little bit of pre-season validation. Clearly we could see that he was a little bit underdone during the pre-season. You know, some of us took the punt that he would come good. It's only taken till round nine for him to come good, but yeah, he is a good player. He is a good player, and at the moment, part of the reason why he's going off is that there's no shooey in that midfield.
00:38:50
Speaker
You know, there's no yo, it's basically just him and Kelly, they have the keys and everything is going through them. So he seems to have his running power back. I watched that game pretty closely and he was everywhere. He was working hard into space. He was getting the ball on the inside as well. So he is a good player.
00:39:08
Speaker
Whether I'd pay 720K for him at this time of the year, I think I'd be much more inclined to pay an extra 100K and to get up to the Baz Smith types that seem to be a little bit more under priced in better sides. But yeah, you can't knock that 139 on the weekend. He was back to what we know he could do.
00:39:25
Speaker
Bailey Dale was drawing some interest from the listeners as well, Louis. I guess with Jason Johansson going down and Caleb Daniels still kind of up the ground a bit more, any interest in him as that kind of number one distributor out of defense for a bit here, Bailey Dale 130 on the weekend, 36 touches, nine marks.
00:39:44
Speaker
Yeah massive interest. He was sort of coming into his own with a few changes in the defensive lineup of the dogs and now that JJ's gone down, you'd have to assume that Bailey Dale's going to have a bit more of a prominent rollback there and I think his form probably reflects that. So it's 698k.
00:40:01
Speaker
If you can't quite get up to a premium upgrade, I think he's someone who'd be a brilliant buyer play and he also might be someone that you take a premium down to if you have a forced trade potentially and use that change left over to do something up on the other end as well, just because I rate Bailey Dale and I think he can be someone who can average 95 plus for a sustained period. Yeah, that's a good shout.
00:40:26
Speaker
Yeah, I think that just again highlights how switched on people are that immediately he's a target, people are looking at, they see players go down, immediately he's a talker town, under 700k, so yeah, good option. Ben Hobbs, final verdict, harm me a quick one, are you keen or not? You're obviously keen. Yeah, I like him, I am keen, I'm just not sure how keen I am, so I'm not an owner at the moment, but yeah, we'll see what shakes out this week about whether I bring him in or not.
00:40:56
Speaker
Dossie, just a quick hot off the press. I know we're going a little bit off topic here, but DPP, so hot off the press from one of the Super Coach pages. So as it stands right at this point in time, Max Gorn right on the 35% marker. So he was at 40% last week and he has dropped down to 35%. So if he rucks the same way that he did on the weekend, which didn't even seem like a lot, I think it was 55% CBAs,
00:41:22
Speaker
He is not going to get DPP. And this one for you, Louis, I can't remember if you traded him in or not, but Jaden Short, so he has 34% defense. And I know he was sitting up in the 40s only a couple of weeks ago. So he has clearly switched into a more midfield role as well. So Jaden Short, potentially not gonna get defensive status either, which is quite interesting. Sam Walsh, 34% forward. So he's gone right back into the midfield as well. So he's looking like he's gonna miss it now.
00:41:52
Speaker
and Jack McRae, so 40% forward. So unless he gets really beveled this week, Jack McRae seems to be the only one we're going to get. I hope that Stado does not listen back to this episode because it's just knife in the back after knife in the back is good news. And he traded out McRae.
00:42:10
Speaker
I hope he said that with a grin ear to ear just in case that didn't come across. No, no, I really was my plans for the last week or so was to be able to trade Max Gorn in to my forward line so that that hurts a little bit.
00:42:24
Speaker
Yeah, let's wait for official word. But yeah, not looking promising if we go by those numbers there. Jai Caldwell, Harmony as another Essendon player, the listeners were keen to know as a Ben Hobbs alternative and maybe that by round player that, that Holmes he was looking at as well as that round 14 by player. He played pretty well on the weekend.
00:42:44
Speaker
He did. He certainly seemed to be the one that they threw first-roll to in the midfield. So look, he's a good player. I like him as a Bombers fan, but he's never been like a really renowned fantasy scorer. And he's about $620,000, $630,000 because I have had a look at his price. So I'm probably not inclined to go for him, but he might have a couple of good weeks here.
00:43:06
Speaker
Zach Budders going absolutely ham on the Friday night with 148. Well done to anyone who VC'd him. Shame for anyone that was up against him as I was in most of my legs. Holmes, is he still an option for us? He probably would have been, you know, people that didn't get on when he was in the 600K, you'd be devastated, but can you still get on now?
00:43:26
Speaker
Yeah, look, Dos, I still think you can. He's 842k, so he did go up 58k this week, so that definitely hurts. And there's always the same risks with Zack Budders. There's always been the way he plays the game. He's clearly a smaller body that puts himself in situations that are going to potentially put his body at risk.
00:43:47
Speaker
but you can't knock what he's doing. Him and Rosie have completely taken the keys to that Port Adelaide midfield to the point where Ollie Wines is just clearly irrelevant at the moment.
00:43:57
Speaker
and he's just playing some absolutely fantastic football. So I'm not going to knock anyone that still wants to trade in Zach Butters. We've seen what his ceiling is now and it kind of looks like his floor has lifted as well. He hasn't really had any real stinkers this year. So yeah, I still think he's an option albeit. Yeah, he was definitely, you know, for owners that got him under 700K. That was clearly the point to get him.
00:44:19
Speaker
Josh Simpkin, Louie, getting all the CBA's in that North Melbourne engine room, 90% time on ground on the weekend as well. He does it all in that midfield. Coming off 115, we know that he can go on runs without LDU in there for a little bit longer. Could he be an option really low 700K as well in that kind of Dom Sheed price range?
00:44:39
Speaker
Yeah absolutely mate, and it feels like Jai Simpkin's done this the last two years as well and he sort of tricks us at the start of every single pre-season thinking, you know, this guy comes home at 105, what could he do if it actually all clicks? This year it hasn't clicked for him, he's priced at about 84, which is
00:44:58
Speaker
you know at least 10 points under is what I expect from Gai Simpkin any given week and I tend to think he's more of a 100 plus guy I think it's 718k a little bit like in the same vein as a Bailey Dale at 698k I think he's undervalued and could be a nice little target for those who can't quite get up to a premium or who want to split their cash and get a bit creative. Yeah he's even down 130k on his price last year as well so
00:45:23
Speaker
Plenty of ups, I can imagine. He's down because he had an injured game though, didn't he? Like, when he got his hand, he got subbed out in the first half, I think. So he had like a low score. That's the reason why his price is down. It was a 48 and it was, yeah, it was 28%. He was on fire early for that. Yeah. Yeah. That's huge. Nah, definitely. Definitely a worthy target on our list, especially I just don't like when it would have used back. I just don't rate him nearly as highly. So how long is he out for? Is he still out for a while? What would he do?
00:45:52
Speaker
He's like six weeks. That could be a pretty nice option. Patrick Parnell, we've got for you, Hami. So a nice little mix up here. The listeners came
Trading Insights and DPP Implications
00:46:04
Speaker
on him. Look, he's one of those options in the 431 K. He backed up his big ton with a 77, but he's had two really nice defensive match-ups in a row with Saints, then Western Bulldogs. He's got Brisbane, Gold Coast and the West Coast Eagles before his buy and around 14.
00:46:21
Speaker
one of those mid prices you could jump on? Dossi, I am happy to admit when I'm wrong. Okay. And last week I told you, don't bring him in. And I won't be apologizing because he put up a 77, but you're not going to go there, mate. Do not do it. This is a guy that puts up 25s for fun last season. So I don't think that he's an option, but I was wrong with Seamus Mitchell. So I could admit that one. He's now kept his role in the team and he's about 500,000. So, um, but no, look at the price it he is. I don't think you can go there.
00:46:52
Speaker
Two tons in a row from Alex with it. And could you go there though? Harmony from the Wiggles. He's got the role with her now. You know, he's looking much better back there and the Wiggles are just getting spanked. So it's back in the back line. Plenty. Yeah, but it's got an apology to make later in the episode. Oh, okay. Uh, all right. Well, we'll talk about that a bit later then. Mason Redmond though. Uh, that's a bit of a cheeky pod. Don't know if you could jump there now with the defensive options we've got homesy.
00:47:20
Speaker
Yeah, no, not for me, Dos. Even though, I mean, I spoke about it earlier, the fact that I just think that game was an outlier. They were just possessing the ball in their back half to keep it away from Richmond. You had Redmond, McGraw and Ridley all go massive and we've seen what they've done for most of the year. So I think it could resort back. I don't think it's a permanent game change, game change. Darcy Cameron with the Ruck-Ford status, Louis, is there going to be a time that we can pounce on him?
00:47:50
Speaker
I'd be keeping an eye on it. He potentially could be a bi-play over the next couple of weeks, but with that 112 break even, I'd just hold off for now. Next up is Will Day, I guess. You only got 57, Cameron.
00:48:05
Speaker
Yeah, he had low time on ground, wasn't playing as much rock on as usual. Yeah, 64% time on ground against Carlton. But I think he does have, you know, north west coast than Melbourne before his buy. So I think it's a post buy thing, right? It's more about if he bottoms out and then jumping that price rise as he's because he's got that forward status.
00:48:27
Speaker
Will Day was requested. I'm not sure if this is for a target or, you know, are we worrying about him? He hasn't turned up since round seven, but from what I understand, you got a little bit of attention from West Coast as well on the weekend. There's no concerns here, really. Is it just a hold, guys?
00:48:45
Speaker
It's definitely a hold. Yeah, definitely a hold. But yeah, you're right. He got some attention from Xavier O'Neill and the same attention that they gave to Noah Anderson the week before. So you would have think that he's going to go to Zach Merritt as a bit of a flag this week. But yeah, I don't think you're bringing him in for
00:49:02
Speaker
owners, he's nowhere near the top of the pecking order to trade out. Maybe we do need to consider trading him out at the buyers to get up to a genuine top six if he's going to have these games of 70s and 80s. But yeah, I don't think you're looking to bring him in this week and you're not looking to trade him out either. Lou, if you've got an extra 100K in the bank and you're looking at one of those Dom sheet simpkin types, could you go up to a locky kneel in the low 800Ks?
00:49:28
Speaker
Yeah, you could. For some reason, I'd want to wait until after he's around 12-by with Locky Neil, and then I think he could be someone we could launch into. But he's put up a few tons in a row now, and I've been eyeing him off for a while. He just doesn't seem to quite be able to put it all together over a number of weeks. So if you're feeling like taking a risk and you can see something there, then I wouldn't begrudge anybody doing it.
00:49:54
Speaker
I think he's someone I'd rather just pass on for now with Ashcroft and Dunkley pretty much taking care of things at the moment. Just a couple of premium defensive options. Sam Docherty and Jack Sinclair, Harmony. We actually saw Sam Docherty kind of reach at his hamstring really, really close to the end of that game. So maybe just monitor that through the week. Hopefully that's not another Clayton Oliver thing, but he definitely felt for his left hamstring after launching a big
00:50:22
Speaker
shot on goal from 50, so just keep an eye on that. But either of those two options, they're both coming off massive games, Hami.
00:50:29
Speaker
Yeah, they are. Look, same as what Louis said about Neil. I think that Sinclair's around 12 by, isn't he? The Saints, I'm pretty sure they are. So he's only going to get one week. But he was massive, like a ripping game from him. And what was his CBA? It's like 20%, at least, CBAs. He was in there a bit, it seems. So yeah, he's definitely becoming an option. And he's well below his starting price. So I think he's somebody you're going to have to have a look at.
00:50:59
Speaker
All right, this is the last one we'll get to. There's still a few more. Unfortunately, we couldn't get through them all. We've got a big episode on deck again, even without the force and his waffling. I just want to throw to you, Holmes, if you're the last one. Brad Crouch, what do you do there, mate?
00:51:14
Speaker
You don't trade him in, and you trade him out next week at his buy. He has forgotten how to football, it's really unfortunate. He's always an option when there's no Jack Steele, but it just seems like in that St Kilda midfield, when Jack Steele's playing, he plays that secondary role, and with that low time on ground, it just means that he's not able to put the scores up that we need to. So no, you don't look at him as an under-priced premium at the moment, and yeah, if you're someone like me that has him, I'd look to move him on next week.
Fossil's Five: Top Fantasy Picks
00:51:45
Speaker
Now without Stado the fossil, we're going to hand over the reins as we have before to our secondary honorary fossil here, Hami, and he's going to give us the fossils five.
00:52:03
Speaker
Thanks Dospy. Happy to take over the mantle here. So I'll whip through them. I've just done this fairly quickly, but I'll start off with number five and I do have an apology to make. So last week I said he wasn't an option. I said his disposal wasn't much chop, but
00:52:23
Speaker
fair enough with a you've proved your point alex witherden pumps out a monster score and he's right back in contention so still well down on his starting price for the year but at 676 000 with a break even 38 i think he's not going anywhere now in that west coast team so he could be an option for you as a fairly cheap defender
00:52:45
Speaker
Speaking of cheap defenders, Louis has outlined some good points earlier, but coming off 130 and 106 in the last two weeks with Johansson going down at 698,000, a break even of 42, I think Bailey-Dale is a really good option as well.
00:53:05
Speaker
Number three, my man at the Bombers, Ben Hobbs. I think he's certainly a play for those that are interested. And I think the price point is one that the teams that are up there aren't going to jump out. So he may be a bit of a point of difference for you over the next few weeks with the Bombers nice run coming in.
00:53:25
Speaker
Number two, Wardlaw. We spoke about him earlier. The best rookie available. I think he was a number four pick from the draft crop as an inside midfielder. Had an injury in the pre-season. Coming off the end of last season, I think it was. So he's now got himself fit into the ones. He did some nice things. So a break even at six. I think he's your go-to if you're looking for a downgrade or a
00:53:48
Speaker
rookie swap there and then number one I spoke about him a couple of times throughout the course of the podcast but man with that round 13 by Bailey Humphrey he's doing some really nice things at the Sun so he's going to set you back 423,000 at the moment but he's got a really low break even of minus three and yeah I think he's in the the Sun's midfield for a good few weeks to come yet so yeah I was impressed with what I saw from him
00:54:14
Speaker
Big Baz is the number one target. Bailey Humphrey, I love that. At least this fossil puts his balls on the line a bit. He's actually going out there. It's not just your standard options. So, appreciate that from you, Harmony. Love those options.
Reflections and Anecdotes
00:54:27
Speaker
We're doing one final segment before we wrap up and it's a new one.
00:54:32
Speaker
So we talked about it through the week that we were going to bring up some receipts as to our group chat, because a lot of crap's talking in that group is spoken about in the group chat. And we wanted to bring up some receipts from past messages and do it as a little bit of a quiz to see if this is a segment ongoing. And I've went back and looked at a few and this segment is going to be called Who Said This?
00:55:01
Speaker
All right, guys, so I've just got a four. I've just got four to start us off, or five, I think it is. So this one was from October 12, 2022, and it was somebody saying, Setters, my boy next year. Who do we think said that, boys?
00:55:22
Speaker
Correct. I started off with a nice little easy one. Stado has been big on on setters for quite some time. This next one was set on the same day. So last year, October 12, 2022. Rosie over Tom Green for me. Who said that one? That's Louis. That is homzy. That is homzy that said that one. What sort of an idiot would say that?
00:55:54
Speaker
Oh, here we go. Hit me. On February 22, 11.50 AM this was, so two on the same day. Josh Ward is the next breakout since McCray, Oliver, Toronto. Book it. Don't see that to you, Nate.
00:56:12
Speaker
That's me and then at 6.54 that same day Mitch McGovern with no Zach Williams and Doc in the guts just saying it's Himmelberg 2.0 for the first month of the season
00:56:26
Speaker
Is that Doss as well? That's a Dossie. That's a double Dossie. He likes picking other messages at the same time. Alright, Feb 23. No way I'm paying for Shesil. Who said that? That would have been me. That was Louis. Although Holmes he was just in my court. Blake Drury 2.0. How'd that go for you Louis?
00:56:52
Speaker
I started him, so it went just fine. Thanks. I'm glad I didn't die on that hill. This final one at May 10, just doing a recent one here. Deal Williams, a better pick than Rory Atkins. Don't at me. That was of course.
00:57:09
Speaker
Louis as well. I'll have to go. Still to play out. Still to play out. Dusty, I've got one. If you don't mind. Just for the crew to take a stab at. It was from the 19th of May this year, 2023. It says, Sparrow out this week, folks. Just saying, sugar incoming.
00:57:35
Speaker
Was this to do with, uh, uh, is this, um, bracial, right? To be fair, the system error that saved your season. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. This is just a quick story before we wrap up the sugar, the 57 sugar.
00:57:51
Speaker
I'm at the pub, I'm at the pub with Louis and Bails on the Friday night. I'm watching, we're watching the big screen there and I go, I'm just keeping my trades ready. I go edit trade. I've got, I've got Andrew, no, Angus Brayshaw, sorry, ready to go. If he heads towards that midfield unit on the, on the Friday night in the wet, a tackler, I thought the sugar was coming without sparring the team. As we said, Salem back in the side.
00:58:19
Speaker
go to hit the trading button. These guys saw it. I've got evidence there. Louie and Bails watch me. I had a system error. My fantasy app, and this, I'm talking, this is minutes before the tip off, not like right on when you're not supposed to do it. Minutes before my fantasy app shut down three times in a row, could not get in there to do the trade. Then as I see him walk towards the midfield,
00:58:43
Speaker
I did the late adjustment and it was too late. That locked me out. So the fantasy app saved me. I actually messaged warning with a screenshot being like, mate, look at what's happened. And then, uh, thanked him later on for, uh, for holding me out on that trade. So that was my thankful moment. Although I do think Gussie Bray, uh, will be good for the weeks to come. So that's, that's, that's the episode lads, but, um, we'll have to bring that. I'll try and find a few more bullets in the group chat for next week, but, um,
00:59:13
Speaker
Any final thoughts before we wrap it up here? Good luck everyone this week. Just stick with it lads. It's been a rough year but just stick with it. The buyers separate everyone so do the right thing over the buyers and I have no doubt that your ranking will come in. Beautiful. We'll see you next week.