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Ophie & Dance Camp (with TheSpaceJamber)
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Ophelia, or as everyone calls them by, Ophie, joins Mayari at the Moonbean Tearooms. They chat about Ophie’s career as a dancer, how their dance camp counselor picked on the two of them for not being good at it, and Mayari steers the conversation away from herself.
Hosted, produced, and edited by ME, Gloria Shuri Nava aka glowpinkstah
Special thanks to today’s guest Amber aka TheSpaceJamber
Magical Coffee Dates logo by Rae aka Illustraeted
Theme trill by Alex Dudley
Background music and sound effects from Epidemic Sound
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Amber is a TTRPG writer, editor, podcaster, and streamer with talents so varied, you can call them the TTRPG Swiss Army Knife! Backed up by close to a decade of gaming and professional writing experiences, Amber is the perfect person to polish up your next work or appear on your next game!
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Transcript
Mayari's Return to October Region
00:00:00
Speaker
Hello listener, my name is Mayari and this is Magical Coffee Dates.
00:00:06
Speaker
I'm sitting here in the moonbeam tea rooms. I've got a warm mocha with me, a sausage roll, and the owners are really cool. Let me set up my laptop to record these sessions. I'm waiting to meet up with an old friend and hopefully rekindle that friendship because I moved away from the October region and sort of lost touch with everyone, but it's fine because I'm back now. I sent out a mailer cat to everyone I used to know and set up a few coffee dates. Thankfully, some people replied. And today I have with me
00:00:36
Speaker
Hi. Oh my god. Mary. Yeah. Hey. Oh my gosh. It's so good to see you again. Ofi? Ofi! Yes. Oh my god. I'm so glad you remember. Yeah. Hey.
00:00:49
Speaker
I mean, you look great. Oh my god, no, you do too. That coffee smells amazing. What did you get again? It's just a mocha. Incredible. I'm gonna go get a chai really quick and I'll be right back.
00:01:11
Speaker
Do you want me to watch your stuff or? Oh, yeah, sorry. Um, let me go ahead. I'm gonna I'm sorry. I just have like my my bag of dance stuff with me still and I just Sorry, it's just like going from rehearsal to rehearsal right now is well But rehearsal to rehearsal
00:01:31
Speaker
Oh yeah. Oh my God. Um, I'm, uh, yeah, it's, you know, it's, it's a recital season, you know, and everyone's putting, you're still dancing. Oh my God. Yeah. I ballet mostly, but like tap has been really interesting lately. That's.
00:01:53
Speaker
Okay, so listener. For those of you who don't know, Ophie and I met years ago, and we were, I don't think I've disclosed this information yet, but I was in a dance group with them, and they're absolutely amazing, and it's just really great to see that you're still doing all this. Oh yeah, no, it's just one of those things where you just don't quite
00:02:23
Speaker
you know, when, when it clicks, it clicks and, you know, being able to express myself through my body, it's wonderful. It's using my body as a tool of expression is exactly like helps me, you know, I can't sing, so I might as well dance and let everything else sing, you know? Yeah. I mean, and you, you're amazing. So do you remember when we,
00:02:49
Speaker
I don't know. Was it the last year that we were at dance? Was it dance camp we were at? I can't exactly remember. Yeah, it was. Oh yeah, it was. It was dance camp through like I remember being a counselor with you for that dance camp, right? Yes. Through like the school we were dancing through, you know, remember?
00:03:11
Speaker
dancing through life as well and dancing through life. Oh my God. There's a wicked line and I can't quite come. I can't remember it anyway. Sorry.
00:03:24
Speaker
Yeah, but how are you?
Reconnecting with Ofi and Dance Projects
00:03:25
Speaker
How are things? What brings you back to October region? Oh, I just, you know, I did my own thing for a while and I'm sort of in between things at the moment. So I just decided to, hey, I'm back now. I might as well just meet up with people. And the owners just were like, well, they saw that I was coming in all the time. And they were like, well, what if you just sort of
00:03:48
Speaker
take this little table and we'll keep it for you and I mean they're letting me work on a project which is basically what I'm doing now I know it's not as cool as dancing but um it's something any kind of expression is great expression Mayari no matter what it is that you end up making you know if it's true it it's admirable what you're doing putting yourself out there like that
00:04:17
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's great. I guess I do get to express how I'm feeling and I get to reunite with friends again. I mean, to be honest, I'm just really more excited to hear more about you. My life is just sort of okay. It's not the most exciting thing. I really do just want to hear about your recitals.
00:04:46
Speaker
where we can, I mean, the listener and I can maybe see something, you know? I'm not trying to deflect if that's what you're thinking. Like, I'm not trying to get the spotlight off of me. It's not really what's happening. It's just that, you know, no, it's just, it's just not about me. And, you know, I get it.
00:05:10
Speaker
yeah I mean I just look at all of your dance equipment and I just think wow I would love I would just love to you know see what you're up to well you should come by sometime you know it's it's you know we're rehearsals for the Nutcracker now I'm yeah I'm actually really excited we're
00:05:37
Speaker
gonna be the Nutcracker, which is so cool. You're gonna be the Nutcracker? Yeah! How about you always wanted to be the Nutcracker? I do! I mean, I know it's usually, you know, it's usually a role that goes to like a more mask, you know, type person, but here we are. It's so exciting, yeah, to be able to do
00:05:59
Speaker
to kind of break that barrier. It's a, sorry, you know, for somebody that's spent so much time in the spotlight, it's hard to like use words to talk about it. I mean, there is a difference between like doing something and then having to talk about it. That's, I mean, it's just a part of your life. You just do it. But like, I just can't imagine. So is it going to be like a giant suit and you move the mouth or?
00:06:27
Speaker
How does it work? I mean, it's, there's, I mean, it's, you know, I mean, you know, we, I do need to be able to move around and dance and do the, you know, the pas de deux and, you know, all of that and be able to, you know, lift the person that's playing Clara and everything. But, you know, that's, that's, I'm, yeah, it's just thrilling to be able to, you know,
00:06:56
Speaker
Again, everything that I've been overcoming with, you know, growing up and being told now and being told that, you know, that people like me, people like us can't do what we set out to do. It's thrilling. So yeah, so what happened? So, you know,
00:07:21
Speaker
I know we lost touch, you know, after the camp. Wow, I can't, Amber can't think of the word. Holy shit. You know, I know we kind of fell out of touch, you know, after that last summer as counselors, but what, you know, how did you,
00:07:50
Speaker
get to the point where you're traveling all over the place, Mary?
Breaking Gender Roles in Dance
00:07:55
Speaker
Well, I guess after graduation, I sort of looked around and I think, to be honest, you know how it's perpetually red and orange all year here? I just kind of wanted to see if there was something different. Yeah. And there was. And then I decided it was probably
00:08:19
Speaker
it's time to go home and i just you know i haven't really spoken about that and um so you know it's just one of those things where you just you just miss seeing the orange and the red and you come back and things are different and um you know but i mean
00:08:49
Speaker
so why are you looking at me like that no it's just it's so funny like it's it's kind of like
00:08:59
Speaker
You know, I remember when you used to get mocha's all the time, like after you practice and it's kind of like returning to that, you know, you try out a new order at your coffee shop and you realize, okay, yeah, I've done my exploring, but it's time to go back to what fits, what feels familiar. And that makes sense. I tried a foamy latte while I was away and I just,
00:09:27
Speaker
I got gassy and it was very uncomfortable. Why do people want foam? I don't understand it. Just go back to the normal
00:09:42
Speaker
everything i mean i tried you know i tried that cheese foam top like you know when you when you get boba and there's like the cheese foam that you can get like the salty cheese foam it's fine but you know you gotta go back to to the sometimes it's comfy to go back to like the popping you know the popping coffee bubbles and your boba yeah those are great why can't we just have popping coffee bubbles all the time well
00:10:11
Speaker
I guess at the same time, you never know until you try. You never. That's true. You know, it's kind of, I guess kind of like dance for me is like, you never know what you're capable of and what you like until you try something new and try your best. And, you know.
00:10:31
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, have you, is there any, I guess I haven't asked this. I know that you've been doing mostly ballet and tap, but have you tried anything that you just haven't enjoyed? I tried cooking for a while. Oh, cooking dance? Cooking dance? Yeah, like as a career.
00:10:59
Speaker
Oh, wait, cooking dance, hold on, wait, go back, what? Are you asking me or are you asking my character? Wait, wait, wait, I don't know what cooking dance is, should I know? I was like, is this cooking mama and Just Dance mashed up? Hold on, wait, hold on, what am I missing out? Because I said like, I know that you're doing ballet and like other types of dance, so I was just making it.
00:11:31
Speaker
No! C-C-Cooking Dan- No, um, uh, I-I tried-
00:11:37
Speaker
Not a big fan, but also I mostly- It sounds really messy. Yeah, I mean, listen, combining, you know, contemporary with baking, contemporary dance with baking and, you know, everything gets everywhere and then you got to clean up and, you know, for performance artists or whatever.
00:12:00
Speaker
Good for them. Not for me Yeah, yeah, but you know, I'm glad that you found what you Really love and that's most important. I think I know it's um, I
Reflecting on Dance Experiences
00:12:19
Speaker
Just sorry, I just keep going back to like to remember the year where I
00:12:28
Speaker
Do you remember the year where, like, where Madam Wilner was just, like, on both of our asses all the time about, like, never being able to keep time and, like, never being able to, like, do, you know, do our positions correctly and, like... Yeah, she was really tough.
00:12:51
Speaker
She really was. Did you work with her much after that? Because I just remember being like, I can't wait to get out of here. Get out of here, excuse me.
00:12:58
Speaker
No, I, I, well, it's so funny. She ended up kind of becoming like the artistic director of one of the theaters around here, which I was surprised that someone would hire her for that, but. Yeah. But, but she remembered me and she remembered, she remembered you specifically and how like they were a duo, right? Yes. Okay. See, I thought you're going to say, nevermind. What'd you think?
00:13:27
Speaker
I don't know nothing and nothing I just we were duo and that was great and I just remember what was the dance the name of the song that we did it was um oh was this during like one of the were we doing Apostle Doble to like I don't know do we wait we definitely had to try ballroom at some point oh absolutely no no no it was
00:13:56
Speaker
Oh, I remember we were doing East Coast Swing to like remember like because remember like swing dancing became like a big thing, you know, around the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're doing East Coast Swing to, um, Oh God. Some, what is it? Brian Setzer? I don't know. Like, did you say Brian Feltzer?
00:14:23
Speaker
No, Brian like sets her like, you know, like the weird like pompadour. Anyway, yeah, she, I just remember her giving us hell because I guess we were getting way too into it and it was just like, I just would understand why people don't want people
00:14:50
Speaker
I mean, yeah, we couldn't keep time, but also we were like the only people into it. So what did she want from us? I mean, swing dance is all about fun. That's what dancing is all about. It's just letting loose and like just letting your body move and just expressing. It doesn't matter that it's not, you know, in some, you know, when we're that young, it doesn't matter that it's not precise as long as we're having fun and, you know, not dropping each
Invitation to Nutcracker Performance
00:15:16
Speaker
other.
00:15:16
Speaker
You know, that's all it is. Yeah, exactly. I just wish that, you know, I don't know. I mean, I'm glad to see that you've been thriving and you've chased your dreams and, you know, you've made something of yourself and you get to be the nutcracker. Did you say that you have to? Sorry, I can't remember. Did you say that you had to crack nuts in the mouth or? No, I don't.
00:15:44
Speaker
oh goodness no no no no that would that that would be awful honestly I mean I just imagine the big chompy thing you know everyone has it at that time of year and it's just no wait they have the dolls out that time of year and I just can't remember for some reason oh well
00:16:02
Speaker
I think I think during intermission we're gonna have you know like breakdance like the nutcracker like interlude where like people can show off how how well they can crack nuts on stage I would love to see that do you think I'd come backstage at one of the performances I don't know like do you all need a hand I can probably I literally was gonna offer you like we I and
00:16:31
Speaker
Hold on, I have tickets right now, actually, I was gonna offer you anyway. Oh my gosh, thank you. I'd love to see you again and see what is going on and, you know, I'm sure, I mean, yeah, like box seats, you know, away from the audience so you can just like get that nice eagle eye view of the rest of the stage, it'll be- Wait, is it gonna be box five? Yes, you can be your own opera ghost, if you so wish.
00:16:59
Speaker
I would love that. Keep box five open for me. And then I'll go backstage and help you all do the breakdancing somehow. Yeah, just don't drop bags of sand on us. Don't. No, absolutely not. Keep your hand at the level of your eyes. Yes. Okay. Well, is this.
00:17:16
Speaker
When does this start again a couple months? Yeah, I mean it's like around the end of next month so I mean if your calendar's open, you know, it's I'll have to look and see but I would love to be there and You know just see what you've been up to and it's been I mean, I'm sure you've got places to go After this so you don't want to keep you for too long
00:17:45
Speaker
No, but I appreciate you just hanging out. And it was good to see a friendly face again. Yeah, it was really good to see you again. And I'm really happy that you answered my personal ad. Well.
00:18:08
Speaker
You know, you see a lot of weird stuff on the internet in October, but I'm glad, again, it's just great to see an old friend again and somebody that you have good memories with. It's worth it. Yeah, and I would love to see again. Maybe we can, I don't know.
00:18:31
Speaker
Maybe we'll just stick to having a chai and a mocha like we used to all the time and then venture out or something. Maybe you can teach me some new dance moves and see if it hurts to dance. I'll make sure that we get you warmed up.
00:18:48
Speaker
Yay, well that'd be great. Well, I'll, I'm not trying to kick you out, but this is like true. Yeah, no, I know, I got, yeah, I know, yeah, I understand. I never know how to end a conversation either. I don't either. I'm gonna go, but it was so wonderful seeing you. I hope you have a fabulous rest of your day and welcome home. Yeah, oh, thank you. No one has said that to me yet. Thank you so much. And I hope I do get to see you again.
00:19:15
Speaker
here's your bag yeah oh thank you oh shit yeah uh yeah well okay uh i i gotta go so um i'll see i'll see you later okay bye
00:19:29
Speaker
So it's me and Amber now and not Mayari and Ofi.
Amber's Projects and Social Media
00:19:34
Speaker
And Amber, would you like to tell everyone where they can find you? Do your whole thing. Amber does a thing and I don't have a thing. Amber has a thing and I want everyone to hear it. I do have a thing. Hi, everybody. I'm Amber, also known as TheSpaceJamber on Twitter.
00:19:50
Speaker
Oh my fucking god, let me- Please let me keep that in! Yeah, this is okay. Well, because I just added the thing. Okay. Okay. Hi everybody, I'm Amber, also known as TheSpaceJamber on Twitter, Twitch, and now TikTok. I am speedrunning to a thousand followers on TikTok. Oh my gosh. Yeah, I am over halfway there now, which three days ago I couldn't say.
00:20:17
Speaker
That's really speedrunning. Congrats. Get there, get there. Follow Amber. They're not island of thousand by the time this comes out. Right. I'm going to beat everyone. No. But I am a tabletop role-playing game writer, editor, podcaster, streamer with talent so varied. You can call me the TTRPD, Swiss Army Knife. I ran Glitterhearts for Gloria and several other amazing folks. Everyone altered Echo Archives back in September.
00:20:46
Speaker
Uh, and I am, well, I guess like by the time this comes out, I don't know, we, uh, I am running DuPont underground, which is a vampire, the masquerade, um, chronicle based on Washington DC and the political nightlife that happens. Um, yeah. So, uh, we had our first episode over.
00:21:07
Speaker
So that's going to be on Girls Run These Worlds starting in January. I don't have dates yet because it's October when we're recording this. Yeah, I have no idea when these are going out. I'm hoping for January, but sooner, I don't know. We'll see. We're ladies in femmes and non-men playing Vampire the Masquerade. It's hard to come across. So anyway.
00:21:26
Speaker
Thank you so much for having me, Gloria. You are a treat and a delight. And I'm really grateful that you asked me to be on this. Yes, absolutely. And I'm really glad that you're here. And it's cute. And I'm going to let Amber go because Amber needs to feed Obi, who is their cat.
00:21:43
Speaker
He is just a cinder block of a cat. So if you want to see Oberlin content, also follow me on Twitter because there's a lot of it. It's like daily. And it's great. It's amazing. Every picture I see of OB is great. Well, he's just dumb.
Podcast Conclusion and Promotions
00:22:00
Speaker
Thank you. Thanks, Gloria.
00:22:04
Speaker
And of course, I forgot to introduce myself or do the things again. You can find me on Twitter, Twitch, especially Twitch, Instagram, TikToks, at glowpinksta on everything. Do I have anything written for this? Absolutely not.
00:22:25
Speaker
Am I remembering as I'm editing? I'm actually remembering every freaking day that I have not done the thing that I'm supposed to do for my own outro on my own podcast. Anyway. Oh, I guess I should say Monday through Thursdays is when I usually stream on Twitch. So go check that out. There's links in the description to everything, by the way. Yeah. Have a good one. Do I have a Patreon at this point? I don't know.
00:22:55
Speaker
You're great. Thanks for being here. Bye! See you in two weeks. Bye!