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New month, new topics! Here on this September Run The List episode, we usher in the season of Fall and highlight current events that have stirred up countless conversations across the country. We discuss Diddy’s upcoming trial, Kendrick being chosen to perform for the Super Bowl in NOLA, Trump and Kamala’s 1st national presidential debate, Florida-based surgeon removing a patient’s liver rather than spleen, ERAS application season, and National Suicide Prevention Month.
We also introduce one of our newest podcast hosts on SNMA Presents: The Lounge— DR. Dumebi Okocha! We are ecstatic to have her infectious energy and quick-witted dialogue here on the podcast, and we know that she will flourish in this role!
Stay tuned for additional programming that we will be releasing soon here on The Lounge!
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To share your thoughts on our discussions or if you have any questions to ask our hosts, email podcast@snma.org for a chance to be featured on the show!
Disclaimer: The opinions and views expressed on our podcast do not reflect the official stance of the Student National Medical Association.
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Podcast Introduction and Disclaimer
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The views expressed on this podcast represent only those of the hosts and do not represent the views of the Student National Medical Association.
Vote ER Healthy Democracy Campaign
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Welcome to the forefront of democracy where healthcare care students ignite change to vote yeah ER healthy democracy campaign. As guardians of health, join the movement of thousands of students empowering communities to get ready to vote because a healthy democracy is the prescription for healed communities. From September to election day, join in for a healthy competition where you Healthcare students are equipped with free, nonpartisan, vote ER tools, resources, and coaches. Teams earn points and climb up the national leaderboard by encouraging peers and patients to register and turn out to vote. Whatever type of healthcare care student you are, medical, nursing, social work, pharmacy, community health worker, public health, dental, et cetera, you're best positioned to empower your community to join the movement
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Make sure you click the link in the description box below. Now y'all know what time it is. Here it's time to start the show.
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All right.
Meet Dr. D'Amavio Cocha, New Podcast Host
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Hi, and welcome to SNMA Presents the Lounge. Whether you're in the student lounge, doctor's lounge, or lounging around at home, get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversation on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of healthcare. I'm Dr. D'Amavio Cocha, and I'm happy to introduce myself as one of the new hosts of the SNMA Presents the Lounge podcast. Now, we have all... Oh, thank you. Thank you so much. We did welcome you all.
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ah Thank you. um A little bit about myself. um I'm a first year resident at the University of Cincinnati and Obstetrics and Gynecology, and I graduated from a med school in Kansas City, so super excited to be here.
Anticipations for Fall Season
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Now, as we enter the season of the fall, which signifies a fresh start in weather, school years, holidays, and so much more, I'd like to ask you, what are you looking forward to this fall?
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What are you looking forward to? You go first. You got it, dooms. OK. One is the clothes, but I wear scrubs every day now. So I think I'll just have like the weekends too. But I think fall fits are the best fits. I think they're very demure. I think they're very modest. I think the colors, like the neutrals and everything, the hair. um So definitely that. The heat in Cincinnati has been terrible, so I'm waiting for it to die down. Other than that,
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Nothing's going to change much in my life. So basically those are two things. Yeah, for for me, you're really, you know, I miss summer. I ain't gonna lie. I'm a don't judge me. I'm a foot guy. So I love someone. and You know, women got their feet on and everything respectfully. But ah he's a foot guy. Is that what you said? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. ah Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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ah don't worry about that you know i had to keep it one hundred But I like the fall, because, yo, y'all got it. Anybody that's listening, y'all got to see both of my co-hosts' faces.
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realities are You said it, so now you have to explain it. Please carry on. on we gonna keep it This is a PD-13 podcast. But I do like the fall, because the opportunity to get to find your loved one. You're getting closer to winter. It gets a little colder. if You get a little cozied up.
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You know, so make sure y'all tapping in, make sure y'all find y'all right one. I'm looking for my right one. And if you out there and you listening, looking you thank you God for sending you to me in the next couple of months. How you feeling about it, Jared? Okay, okay. um How you doing everybody? I'm Jared Jeffrey. Aspiring student doctor and ah I gotta piggyback off of Dume B's answer. I'm definitely looking forward to Fall Fits. If y'all know me, I know I'm a bigger guy, so.
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I like to, you know, I could really get guess swaggy with the fits, you feel me? I could really layer some stuff, get some good colors going, but I'm also really looking forward to some fall activities, you know? I may be a a little more blessed than Alduin, so I got somebody that I'm gonna be going apple picking. Hit the pumpkin patch. You know what I'm saying? Might do it might do it might do a little sigh sigh here. A little sigh of cutie. Alduin, relax. Ah. Would you do like a corn maze?
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I would do a corn maze. Yeah. All the corny stuff, man. I'm going to throw on the flannel, go to the corn maze. I had a little haunted house. Might do a little six flags. ah What's it called? What's the thing? Oh, ah I know you're talking about a flag fest. Fright fest. Yeah. Fright fest. Yeah. We're going to do it all, man. We're going to do it all. So that's it this what I'm looking for, man. That's what I'm looking forward to, Razz. I'm looking forward to. Great. So.
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Let's move it right along now. It's time for everybody's favorite portion of the show. You're not going to give me a drumroll, Aldrin? but a Thank you very much. Run the list.
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For our preclinical students, running the patient list on awards allows the team to address pressing matters of the day. In this segment of the show, we'll be discussing some recent events in medicine and beyond affecting our communities as well as the populations we serve. So let's start let's start it off light today,
HBCU Classic Event in New York
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please. Let's start it off light. um Last episode was mad heavy. It's been a little minute since I had Aldon with me.
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I miss you too bro. all i'm good to say yeah um what no do me ah getting I'm getting is getting good to see ya. Did y'all see the HBCU classic that popped off in New York ah a couple weeks back?
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I missed that, bro, to be honest. But, ah you know, we we got the HU in the building holding it down. Shout out to Howard University. Send out more house. I didn't get a chance because, you know, I'm working and all and I'm sure I do. Maybe. OK. OK. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I was out there.
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it it was a little bit of It was a little bit of a vibe, you know what I'm saying? um It was definitely a great day to be outside, great weather. Yeah, Howard, Howard did their thing, unfortunately. Isabella is like wilding somewhere, you know, screaming at the you timema h you at the top of her lungs.
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Yeah. But Morehouse did their thing. It was a great environment to be in. You know, like, you know, New York doesn't have any HBCUs. So it was just good energy overall. The tailgate was fire. The bands were wiling. The teams themselves did their thing. It was just a great day out. I met life. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love the things like the energy. How many i think was usually a play in this type of thing? Like all the half of all teams or.
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No, they just invite two. So it's just one, one football game. okay okay okay um And it's usually two of the bigger HBCU. So this one house in Howard. Yup. Yup. And yeah, it was a good vibe. It was the third annual one. And I am looking forward to the fourth. ni more won yeah Oh, I think all of them happened in my life.
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i oh us i oh actually the same oh yeah The same stadium that the Giants play at. Oh wow, that's cool. yeah her And keeping it on sports, I don't know if you guys are were tapped into this, but a couple weeks back on the pod we talked about how Jordan Chiles had got kind of robbed of her Olympic medal. Well, my good sister says she's not taking it sitting down and she's going to fight back. So so she's filing a motion to reclaim that Olympic bronze medal.
Jordan Chiles' Olympic Bronze Medal Appeal
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So hopefully you heard. But if you didn't, it you know, there was a big discrepancy at the end of her um at the end of her routine. She went from fourth to third after an appeal and then they appealed her appeals. Things like the third or something. Yeah. Yeah. i crazy that Yeah.
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and it ended up with her missing out on the medal by like the narrowest margin. Well, she has filed an appeal in the Federal Supreme Court of Switzerland to overturn that decision by the Court of Arbitration for Sports, that stricter of the bronze medal.
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yep ah she should i feel like the wholeage When we were listening to the last podcast, this situation makes no sense. So she is fifth and then gracefully accepts it, but then there're there's clearly something wrong. So then she gets third, but because she didn't put it in at the right time, so then she loses that, but even though she won regardless.
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so I'm glad that she's appealing this because the technicalities don't make sense when she technically won in the beginning. So I don't even know why we're just doing this at this point. I think it was just insane the way that they handed her the medal and said, no, sorry, give it back.
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Like when Steve Harvey announced the wrong, the wrong woman at the west universe pageant. like that He said, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. Didn't mean to get into you. And yeah, I just feel like that that's like that's a little bit of violations, a little bit of violation. But in the past and like other. Oh, sorry.
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now you good you got so good in the past In other places, like in other situations, I've seen countries split medals when things like that happened. And I heard rumors. I don't know if this is actually facts, but I heard rumors that Romania actually kind of wanted to split the bronze. And and then the Olympic Committee was like, no, these are the rules. So there's no splitting. So I'm just wondering why the rules always bend for certain groups of people.
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say what group stop being afraid on this podcast keep it funky you know how it is yeah because i just feel like if it was any other person or maybe any other country, it would be a simple like, okay, give her back her medal or okay, y'all both get bronze because of the technicalities and we all can go home and everyone can have a win. Not everyone, the two people that deserve it essentially, because I feel bad for the Romanian too, like she thought she won and then now she did it and now she's back to it. like It's mentally confusing. It's mental gymnastics. So I just feel like this needs to be put to rest.
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Mental gymnastics. I like that. I'm starving to that one. I like that one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Queen. crowd Stop playing with it. Shout out to her. Shout out to her showing her like she's the embodiment of black queens out there. She said, no, I need that. Like I won that and I deserve that. And I feel like that is in respect, something that we got to be encouraged by because oftentimes people give up, they relent. Yeah. You put in that work. These Olympic athletes, they put in dedication, sweat.
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energy into this, the fire. So I love that Jordan Child is really represented and putting it on and saying, yo, the Olympics, y'all already know y'all on that type of time, but I'm not going to relent and y'all going to make sure y'all feel this energy. u You know who else is feeling the energy? do my so oh my god What world are we living in right now? This is no longer a real place.
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No, no, no.
Legal Accusations Against Diddy
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Whatever world he was living in. is Yeah. He's in some type of dystopia because I'm just not understanding. Yeah. Yeah. that Between the uncovered files and whatever the charges are. One thousand bottles of baby oil. I was just like, nah, I got to work. This is where you're storing it. So are you that actually wrote a thousand bottles?
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It's crazy crazy the the but the baby oil your room, of course. Oh, the baby oil room. Okay. Yeah, so exactly. I bet it's like so temper reg regulated and all those other type of things, too. Mm hmm. Did he got a lot of warm and ready to say allegedly? I don't know. It's just, oh, yeah, we're not trying to get sued. Yeah, allegedly, allegedly, allegedly, like Wendy Williams say, allegedly.
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gentlyly yeah it was' confirm we not sad okay this this next This next part down they definitely found a thousand. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. So, um, the, the facts of the case are that Diddy age 54 was sent to the metropolitan detention center in Brooklyn on Monday, September 16th. He was indicted on federal charges by the magistrate and they ordered him to wait without bail. Diddy.
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is gonna get the book thrown at him his team tried to set up a fifty million dollars baillea nasty and what judge still said no yeah i want you in jail i don't want you on around she's a tre risk yes i want you in so actually him and his entire family have already surrendered their passport passportds as well as each one of his kids called one eu christian cold yes yeah all everybody has surrendered has surrendered their pass yeah you belong to the they not play
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they not playing around with this one. um So the indictment accuses Diddy of essentially a Rico, right? It says that he was presiding over a sorid sordid empire of sexual crimes that use his power and prestige for sex trafficking, forced labor, interstate transport for purposes of prostitution, drug offenses, kidnapping, arson, bribery and obstruction of justice, allegedly.
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um
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No, that was the important, allegedly. these These are all alleged until something is proved in the court of law. um It says that his associates would arrange travel for victims, sex workers, and that Diddy essentially used his businesses in some way, shape, or form to either instigate these situations or use his power to coerce people to participate in these uh and this is the authorities term not mine freak offs and and this is the last thing this is the last thing the freak offs would occur often and regularly and could last for multiple days
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The fact that they're even using the term freak offs means that there is no precedent because where's the legal jargon? They're literally calling it a freak off and legal documents. Another thing that I kind of think about is if you really think about like them calling it a freak off mean they have no other way to describe the nonsense that is occurring. The madness. in Illegal. Unprecedented freak energy.
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When he would allegedly you know have all these freak-offs, they would have IV fluids delivered. How people are hungover, and they have IVs come to their house. So my okay ah other question is, so there are medical people in like who've seen this, and so there are medical people involved. Whether it's nurses, legal, illegal, veneer techs, I don't know. But people are involved. So it's just like, ven If you really think about it, I think it's just a really crazy situation how money can hide so many problems in this society. you know And I saw this one TikTok about, you know again, it's alleged, right? And how we should give him the grace as a black man in this country. And I'm just like, at some point, when are we gonna... Enough of that.
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Enough with that. No, no, no. I was about to say, there have been a couple of rappers that are trying to like, yeah oh, who gets federal charges for being freaky? I feel like the black man is always at the at the the precipice of guys, guys, guys. Stop it, bro. Let's use critical thinking skills, please. really and You know what? I think it's just like, just be quiet a little bit. It's real early on.
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Things are still alleged. Like we said, things are alleged. Things have not you know fully he come to light. But these are like crimes with victims. You know what I'm saying? I think it's very important like and think it's very important to to remember this whole cascade started because Cassie decided to you know, bravely step up and bring that lawsuit forward. yeah The one that you remember, the one that he settled in 24 hours. Quick. Like, what do you get all this funny, bro? And settled in 24 hours. who And it kind of opened the doors for a lot of more things to come out, you know? Now people are like, oh, word, we we could fight back against him now? OK, let's go, because I've been waiting. And right I've seen a couple of text messages that, you know, that they've said that they've released and so stuff like that.
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the verbiage written is disturbing the verbiage is it's it's it's not good you know what i'm saying so it's just like you know the fed the fed you know kate the ability to indict and successfully win cases is 96, 97%. And so this is a huge representation of how a man who is enamored and surrounded by so much money that people are ah oblivious to his malicious actions.
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This man was moving around with so much ego, which lack of wherewithal and awareness. He never thought he's gonna get caught in these situations. said Oh, yeah, I'll pay you off. You should you be quiet. ah You know what I'm saying? Like I'm paying these different and and the thing was how he was working was he was using his employees. He was paying them off. You know what I'm saying? And these people were put in positions where they were also threatened. So if you don't do this certain you're not going to get paid off. And also there's testimony that showed that he also kind of threatened if they didn't do those acts, they all tell your mom or I'll tell your family, I'll expose certain secrets about you that people wouldn't necessarily rock with. So people were put into you know certain predicaments and we see in videos, there was a video of him and Justin Bieber and he's like, yo, Bieber, I haven't seen you man long. Where you been at? Justin Bieber is like a 10 year old kid, bro.
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Yeah. put You know, like he questioned him like he adult type. And he said, oh, yeah, my my my my friends, you know, you reach out to them. But, you know, I don't have your number. And it's like we know how you go through this whole casting. Usher is nothing. Usher was 13 years old when he moved to New York and did he bought them in New York and they did an interview of us. He was like, yeah, I've seen some crazy stuff. He ain't say what it was. But it's it's it's just it's just it just fascinates me.
00:18:59
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that over the over the time and years that this has been happening, now this is becoming to the forefront. It shows how much power, influence, and impact Diddy has had. And I think, in my opinion, it's one of the greatest downfalls for media mogul to lose their legacy. He had, ah you know, he had Revolt TV. He had all of these businesses popping. He had Siroc.
00:19:20
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And the artist that came from them too. Yeah. yeah Day 26, Dawn Richards just came out and filed a lawsuit against them. I don't know if y'all remember Dawn Richards, who's one of the singers, and she's filing against them for sexual assault and rape and and so you know all of these allegations, which yeah people don't just do this out of. you know i'm saying Sometimes it happens where it's like you're faking it, but I really feel like the the amount of people that's coming out and showing up. Well, this is not like some lie, bro. Like you, you did some nasty work and and very, very few people are speaking up saying, oh, no, did he wouldn't do that? I'm not hearing anybody. What do you mean? That's a fact. French Montana, all his friends, Rick. Yeah. What was the girl? He was kind of dating, but not I forgot her name, Marisha. Yeah. Like she wasn't denied that she didn't know anything. And I'm just like,
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I think, you know, and, you know, not saying something is saying something in itself, you know. Yeah. Just like how my man Jay-Z tried to say something when he chose Kendrick Lamar to be the next the next performer for the 2025 Super Bowl, despite the fact that it's going to be in New Orleans. I feel like that was a little bit crazy. Right. Little Wayne amongst
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That's nasty work. That hurts. is Okay. a lot Okay. So um'm I'm going to give it to them straight. I'm going to give it to them straight. yeah good him good up bro It was announced that Kendrick Lamar is the Superbowl 2025 headliner. And then it comes out later that Jay-Z is the person who makes the decision on who that performance going to be through whatever, you know, influence and whatever ah role he has within the organization.
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Nicki Minaj among a lot of other ah close associates, a little Wayne was just straight up not happy because it just goes was like, yo, you going to have somebody from LA come to my hometown to perform.
00:21:22
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The Super Bowl. Yeah. The Super Bowl. The Super Bowl. Every year. This is like a once in a decade opportunity. Mm hmm. And you don't think the residents of New Orleans is going to look for a little. Right. I feel like little Wayne and Kendrick. Two legends. Two icons. Two legends.
00:21:37
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Yeah. Yeah. So the way around the other way around would be like something that would be magnificent. But think about Lil Wayne, like you said, has a historic career. And I do feel like, you know, we was in New Orleans for Essendon main conference. You know, they playing Lil Lil Wayne all around the city. Like you can't go anywhere where nobody's bumping Lil Wayne and Lil Wayne even reported like he said, like, oh, when he heard the news that Kendrick was going to be like headliners, he cried.
00:22:05
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It felt like a sense feeling of disrespect yeah dis encourageagement um and him. And Kendrick is dope, but I feel like this is a money this is a money bag money grab kind of thing. He's so popping off. They could have waited to do this, bro. But he's so popping off that they're really trying to engender like all this money and movement. So I don't know, man. I feel for Lil Wayne. But I do feel like Kendrick is probably going to be bringing Lil Wayne out. I think it will be dope. All for this, Kendrick does like a collab with Lil Wayne because he never like did a song together.
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So that would be cool, but I don't know, man. This is like a really tough situation. And Jay's losing a lot of credibility off of this. Is it OK? So for those who are not super rap enthusiasts like me, um basically is her history of Jay-Z and Lil Wayne having any sort of beef that would, you know, kind of prompt Jay-Z to
Kendrick Lamar at New Orleans Super Bowl Debate
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choose Kendrick Lamar. I haven't seen anything, at least, you know, from my scrolls, but beef. I'm not going to call it beef.
00:23:03
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Um, so I think the precedent that don't exist is that you kind of incorporate hometown artists in 2022. Yeah. bowl was held in ingo The performers,
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dr. Dre. Great. Mm hmm. You brought out Kendrick Lamar and Snoop Dogg, West Coast legends, Snoop Dogg, West Coast legend, 50 Cent came out, but under the guise of Dr. Dre, DJ Blar, Eminem.
00:23:35
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who You see how that kind of makes sense? yeah that match a lot of sense hu If you're in a neutral a neutral venue like Vegas, then you know, have whoever, right? Yeah. You go into New Orleans, ah ah a city that is a rap heavyweight city that like lots of greats have come out of. Juvenile, many fresh. There's so many names. that you yeah That's more so the precedent that is being challenged here. Why? And like I said, Kendrick was on that performance. So Kendrick just did it three years ago. True. And now he's yeah he's headlining.
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so
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I don't, I can't say anybody's attention. You know, I could just say like, nasty. It might be shots of Drake too. ah no It could be the whole shots of the whole YMCP. Nicki Minaj actually felt away and immediately took to Twitter to voice her opinions. Um, she kind of went straight at Jay Z and said that like, it is a direct attack on like,
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Wayne's legacy and his like status as a more prominent rapper, like a better like rapper that's come out of the the the legend status. e hey
00:24:54
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So like, how do y'all feel? Like, do do do you feel like this is going to be a sick like, I'm thinking like with this situation, honestly, like when Kendra comes out on New Orleans and the people that's going to be out there, they going to be walling out. Like I feel like it's going to be fights and people because people are very prideful. Like they're not going to be with that movement. You think so?
00:25:19
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that you know the Super Bowl is a big ticket, right? It's not going to be straight New Orleans heads in the crowd. yeah right think But I think there will be a good number of them. I think that's that the the the performance will probably be successful. I just feel like the sentiment around it not going to hit like the way it could have.
00:25:41
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You know, like like there was a real, I could feel the West Coast pride in that Dr. Dre performance, you know? yeah I think since then it's been, since then it's been like Usher and Twillow Swift and they were both in neutral venues. So nothing crazy there. Where did Rihanna perform again? Well, she's, we yeah, I can't remember. Rihanna, where was that? Let me look at Arizona, I think, Arizona.
00:26:06
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and that Yeah, that's neutral. Yeah, neutral zone. Yeah. Yeah. Glenda, Arizona. Yep. OK. And so, you know what I mean? Like, it's it's just it's just one of those things like it shouldn't be this much of a thing, but it definitely is this much a thing based off the president. You know what I mean? And I feel like, oh, you know what? OK, boom. I just had a brain blast. I can't even call it a brain blast. Jocelyn put me onto this. Yeah. Jocelyn Joss.
00:26:37
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Jay-Z making it be Kendrick. When Kendrick just beat Drake in the rap beef, when Drake is under Lil Wayne, that could be like a direct like, this there's something there. I don't know what it is, but there's something there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Little, little something something. That could be like just a ah real like, a tough slight, you know?
00:27:00
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e Mm hmm. But, you know, speaking of music, yes. You know, speaking of music, ah you know, when you talk about Jay and Kendrick, but, you know, this year has been tough. You know, we lost one of the legends, Tito Jackson, you know, part of the Jackson five. um Part of the original, right? Yeah. Mm hmm. The original, you know, ABC is easy as one, two, three. Hey.
00:27:29
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Yeah, you guys are vocals, right? But you know, Jackson was one of the brothers who made the beloved pop group, the Jackson Five. Unfortunately, it's passed away at the age of 70. And he was a third of the nine Jackson children, which included the global superstars Michael and his sister Janet, who was legendary and of herself. You can't you can't pass away on September 15th. What do you think this means ah in terms of remembering the legacy of the Jackson Five and what the Jackson's mean to us as a culture?
00:27:59
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Yeah, so when I, I mean, I'm only 24, so context is key. 24? Wow. Yeah, but like, I remember like being exposed to like,
00:28:11
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the Jackson 5 just through my parents because, I mean, he was worldwide. Like in Nigeria, there is singing his anthems. And then even on things like Just Dance 2 and everything like that, like just being really exposed to his music. So I feel like if anything, it's just like a sign of us getting older and like the legends are dying off. So I'm like, we got to create, not dying off, legends are passing away. And we have to like, I just don't know who in our generation is going to be the Jackson 5 if that makes sense. So.
00:28:41
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33 Chris Brown is definitely the the the the the new Michael Jackson of our generation you think so um oh we got usher and two i usher yeah son be careful Don't don't worry when the when the when the autobiography the biography when the biopic drops you'll see this Chris Brown old you said autobiography biography biography which whichever Whichever one you need to convince you, you'll you'll you'll see. um I think it is definitely like a um ah sign up again older, the people that we, you know, seem seemed invincible to us when we were kids, like the ones that we were various legends. Like, you know, legends never die. Like part of growing up is like, you don't realize, and like, yo, legends that ass do die. And legends don't only die, but they got to get replaced with new legends. So get out there and do some legendary, y'all.
00:29:31
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so mean I feel like the music just doesn't hit the same. like I feel like back then the music was you know to the heart, soulful, clean, innocent. Everyone could listen to it from like different generations. The Jackson Five, like my grandparents, my parents, like everyone knows the Jackson Five. You know, so I'm scared that when I start having children, are these, they're gonna say Jackson Five, they're gonna be like, who, is that the the TikTok house? Is that a, what is that? Like they're gonna be confused. So um I think it's our job definitely to keep the music alive in our households as well, because, you know, they're part of black history. You know, I think that's a hard thing to do. Like when you talk about generations and music, like music evolves, just like language, you know what I mean?
00:30:14
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Yeah. like You know, studies show in 2000 years, like most languages are going to be apparently just completely different. While we're speaking our jargon, our vernacular, it's not going to be the same. So the same thing with music when we look down the line. But speaking people's name is perpetuating a legacy. So I think that it's important for us, as you mentioned, do maybe to continue to highlight what these people have accomplished, especially when we talk about pop, rock and roll. A lot of black ah artists are undermined. you know We think about the standard like the Beatles and um you know Elvis Presley, but there's people that set a precedence even before them that we have forgotten. So we got to continue to listen to the music, play them. you know And I think yeah know there's a lot to be said about the potential for their goodness, their their happiness. And I think it's beautiful that despite this person's physical essence leaving,
00:31:06
Speaker
they left an imprint, a legacy that we can continue to touch base with. The same thing with people like Bob Marley. Like yesterday, I'm chilling. I'm coming from my shift, Tidal, and I'm listening to somebody across the street playing Bob Marley. I wanna love you, and treat you right. You know what I'm saying? I was like, oh, and that made me feel so good. We loved the song that great. And Bob Marley died in the 80s. You know what I mean? But it still resonated with me in this present moment in how I'm feeling. So yes, I do agree with you that this can perpetuate.
00:31:35
Speaker
i mean I just know Olin is a riot at karaoke. Oh, I bet. You don't give up the mic. You don't give it up. I can just tell that like the um the thing that is leaving an imprint in these in in our minds from these people is the fact that they were able to accomplish something great. You know what I'm saying? That's what makes them legends. It's like the way that Kamala Harris is trying to accomplish something great when she gets elected for president of the United States this November. shafalo So she already took down the big guy once. yeah and She took him down once, you feel me? And then they're getting ready to ah go at it again.
00:32:16
Speaker
Well, Trump says he does doesn't want to. he I think he's respectfully declined. I don't know if it's respectfully, but I don't think he's trying to go again. That's the thing. but you guys hearing these rumors about Okay, I think the whole Kamala
Trump's Rumors About Haitian Immigrants
00:32:31
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and Trump thing. So are you guys hearing about the rumors that Trump has been spreading about the Haitian people in Springfield, Ohio? And I'm in Ohio right now. And I feel like we're even getting the backlash here because you have a lot of Haitian patients.
00:32:43
Speaker
Um, I, you see, everyone is talking about it sock my sister all my Haitian people, Haitians all over the world are feeling it. That is the same thing you hear in New York. Facts. I love my Haitian people. They says about approximately 12 to 15,000 people that have moved to Springfield, Ohio, uh, from the Haitian community. And they recently even opened up a Haitian w restaurant, which I love, despite the challenges that they're experiencing with this.
00:33:11
Speaker
And I saw photos of it, like they opened a restaurant like prior a day or two after this, the whole news came out with JD Vance and all of them. It was packed out. And the Haitian people are people of resilience, of power, of encouragement. And it's so interesting how they try to galvanize their own thoughts of white supremacy by trying to antagonize the Haitian people. And this is common. They always going to find a story of reasoning behind what they're doing. You know what I mean?
00:33:38
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and and And it's crazy to bring something like this up on one of the grandest stages in the country. So just as for a little background, there's a woman from Springfield, Ohio. Her name is Erica Lee, and she like posted on Facebook, basically.
00:33:50
Speaker
Oh, i think I can't find my pets. I think my Haitian neighbors ate them. yeah And it kind of like spread like wildfire and like, yeah, spread like wildfire in a bad way. And I don't know once again, presidential candidate. I don't know how he picks up this Facebook post and brings that information to like a grand podium, but he does. And shortly after debate, she kind of confessed that there was no evidence that her pets were eating. She actually found the pets a couple of days later. So this was just like, let's be honest. that's dont Come on. Like, like, so look yeah let's put out like a but a ah demonstrative statement.
00:34:29
Speaker
The Haitian people do not eat cats and dogs. That's not part of their cuisine ah screen now pe noir You know black umma take a lot of fish yeah no shout out yo shot to doorolling i'm here i'm learning ah haitian creoles or shot to and Okay, so we we got our first hint i mean we count off our first hint of Alduin's dream woman mm-hmm She has. Hey, don't do that. Don't do that one. passing nation but but But no, not honestly, like, you know, going back to, you know, this this whole debacle, right? um I think that it's showing for us there's 70 million Trumpites in this country and whatever they can do to push their agenda, whatever stories. And, you know, we'll talk about later with the assassination attempt. This is befitting for us. So we can't fall into this ploy.
00:35:21
Speaker
Right of discriminatory actions of viewing, you know certain ah People and demographics is less than the Haitian people are part of us and we have a duty to represent Encourage support them as people of the diaspora and I think that we're doing honestly a bad job of that Like how do y'all feel about this? Like what's going on?
00:35:41
Speaker
I just feel like if it were, because like, okay, Haitians are a big group of people. The African diaspora, Afro-Caribbean diaspora is a big group of people, but there are obviously majorities and minorities within the African-Caribbean diaspora, right? So I feel like if this were, I'm Nigerian, right? I feel like if this were Nigerians, this could not stand. This cannot stand. And I think it's because Haitians aren't at a- populous of a community as Nigerians or Ghanaians or Jamaicans. So I think it's super important that as brothers and sisters in the diaspora that we continue to support each other. And it's just crazy to me that people
00:36:19
Speaker
actually believe it. I was at work the other day in the OR, the CRNA and the circulating OR nurse are going back and forth about how it's true and not true. And I said, how is it even a debate? Even if you vote for Trump, right? Even if you believe that Trump is God's gift to the earth. Can you believe something so ridiculous? You're brainwashed. It's just simply brainwashed. And even if you're a Republican Democrat, it's about you know, cult like behavior. It's a cult because in a common belief, that doesn't make sense. People who are in a cult. Correct. And I think it's important to like highlight that that was Trump's energy. The entire debate.
00:37:00
Speaker
They're eating the toy. He wasn't going after facts. He wasn't going after the the issues. he Kamala attended sorority party over meetings. ah She wouldn't even meet with, ah um I can't remember the name when he went to Congress. Yeah, like you know like he's really trying to like ah paint, up rather than paint himself as the best candidate, he's just trying to paint her as a less fit candidate. you know Because he knows he's not fit.
00:37:29
Speaker
He knows. You know what I loved about this debate? They had a counter up. They had a counter that went after the debate. Yeah. on ah It was ah what can you call it? Non verified facts that he claimed were facts or like fake fake news. I'll call it. Yeah. Yeah. And the counter said that of things that he said on stage, 33 of his verified facts were not true. Kamala also had the counter.
00:37:59
Speaker
Only one of hers was verified, not true. He gets up on stage and says whatever. And don't forget the fact that he was, ah he was bringing the racist energy as well. You know what I'm saying? so Yeah, of course. if it is lying and i people The back people.
00:38:18
Speaker
Do sign for y'all listening. We doing a little thing that he does with lips. and when you like pretty ago ah He questioned ah the vice ah the vice president's racial identity. He said that she was of Indian heritage. And then a number of years ago, she happened to turn black. Just very ignorant comments. Crazy things to see on stage. like Like you say that at your house, you know, with your grandfather, not on a public stage running for national office. That means he has no, he has no decorum. You know what I mean? Like he literally, he has some type of issue that I don't even know that where you think you are above everyone. Like grandiose ideations, literally that like you think you're above everyone else. Like even when he says, I was the president that did this, I was the president that did that. And you're like, that's a lie. That's a lie. That's a lie.
00:39:07
Speaker
Like he thinks he did everything. He's God's gift to the earth. It's just crazy. it it was It was so funny to me. One of my favorite parts of the debate, they ask him something about the tax plan, the tax strategy. Trump, do you have a plan for taxes? I have concepts of a plan. Like you're running for president and taxes are too high. You came to the debate and you don't have a plan concept. What is concepts of a plan when it comes to the
Debate Aftermath and Trump's Fact-Checking
00:39:32
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issue? When it comes to the issues, you don't have much to say.
00:39:36
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It was a little tough. It was a little tough. And he knew he lost, too, because, you know, usually they were saying after the debate that the candidate that loses, they go to the floor and start speaking to people. Kamala is like walking around like, yeah, black, black, black, I bodied him like I killed his whole drink. You know what I mean? And he's there like, yeah, I didn't really put on. And granted, he thought he was you going against, you know, former state district attorney. You feel me? So she came ready.
00:40:07
Speaker
She came in doubt. You know what I'm saying? Like he wasn't ready for that. You can't just speed out whatever you want and think that's it. So, and so real quick, I just want to remind everybody that these ideas expressed on this podcast are solely our own and do not represent. We are all individuals. We do not represent. And I want to make the point that however, though,
00:40:35
Speaker
that these facts that we have listed are the reason that Trump is trying not to have another debate. Because the way he got walked on, it just wasn't pretty. It didn't do much for his campaign. It didn't do much for his love. He got ran on, bro. The people who really support him don't care. That's the thing. They're going to vote, bro. They're going to support. To this guy.
00:40:58
Speaker
and i think youre on to vote him and say the n word and still get voting oh yes telling the matters been matter way That came out of that week was that his former vice president says He doesn't said that he endorsed camera Kamala. He simply says that he can't endorse Trump Yeah, that's not it work. That is extremely telling. Yeah party men Someone that formerly worked under you in the highest office in the land Right
00:41:27
Speaker
right that's all That's all I got. That's all I got. That's all I got. I just feel like if people in your own house can't rock with you, then we already know. Because I don't think it's a Republican Democrat thing. like I'm the type of person, like most people are kind of swinging in the middle, if you're being honest, Democrat about some views, Republican about other views. But being radicalist, these people that you know, again, cult-like behavior. um Even if you're not Republican, even if you are Republican, and you've been rocking Republican Road for Bush, you liked Mitt Romney, all the things, and you see this guy, a reasonable person will look and be like, I don't know who this man is.
00:42:07
Speaker
And even if they don't, it's not both. Yeah. and And in a similar way to how Democrats were saying like, yo, Joe Biden, like we can't we can't put you in the highest office in the land. yeah yeah It goes both ways. I think Trump is just a bit more ah demonstrative, prideful and ah hell bent on seeing that office again. So we'll see how things go.
00:42:28
Speaker
But so much so, I feel like he's so prideful that I feel like this conspiracy theory theory on me, but so prideful that he's, I feel had someone attempt their second second assassination attempt on him. You know, and I think it's very interesting.
00:42:43
Speaker
You know, previous history, Al Gore, George Bush, not not. It's martyrdom. Like, you know, I'm saying, yeah, well exactly. wrote me Like, it's part of the grandiosity. Mm hmm. Bro, like, I'm like, everyone's out. Mm hmm. Right. They like. how this that the back Two attempts on your head. Who is that lucky? you I'm just saying it doesn't make sense. And you live in bro. Like, yo, who's on your well, he wasn't harmed.
00:43:11
Speaker
Yeah, on your own golf course, but he wasn't harmed. And in last Sunday's apparent assassination attempt as he golf, like you mentioned, in his Florida club. But it's two months into the first attempt. And yeah it's already building up the energy for all the Trumpites, the 70 million Trumpites already. They already seem like, oh, Trump, he's sacrificing his life for our country. And we've got to support him and everything that he's doing. But the man that's suspected in the incident, Ryan Wesley Rouse camped outside of the golf course.
00:43:40
Speaker
in West Palm Beach with a food and a rifle for nearly 12 hours. Where did he do that at? And he was so crazy. We talked about Obama, how many people they were saying, oh, he's a terrorist. he He's not, you know, like he he's a foreigner, like all that stuff was going on and nobody even thought to like move that certain way. But with Trump,
00:44:00
Speaker
yeah You know what I'm saying? This man from America and and moving a certain way. like it just it It just amazes me how this movement continues to go on. And he's accused of lying and waiting for the former president before his Secret Service agent opened fire, which awarded the attack a second time, as we mentioned. And Harris Trump, Democratic opponent in the president presidential election, postal ex, that she was glad he is safe.
00:44:25
Speaker
Violence has no place in America, but Trump was the one that enacted violence right with the Central Park Five in the 90s. He was the one that put all the media and agenda in the campaign to put five black boys into prison that were underage, that were falsely accused, and everyone's forgetting the violence that he has enacted in his own life. The violence against women.
00:44:49
Speaker
January 6th, the riot. When there's a white man that do it, but imagine me and you that that did that joint. I couldn't even stand in front of his golf course for longer than five seconds for someone to ask me, what am I doing there? I'm being honest. So someone standing there with a rifle for 12 hours looking deranged, please. Like I'm a big conspiracy theorist and I don't believe it. So I'll just say that. I still, you know, this is the same angle that I took the last time we talked about this once again.
00:45:16
Speaker
We do not condone violence on this podcast. No, it's very good that he was not assassinated. Yeah. However, Trump is a former president. The Secret Service escorts him everywhere. They are in advance of his arrival and like secure a perimeter.
Alleged Assassination Attempt on Trump
00:45:36
Speaker
Correct. Exactly assassination attempt to pop off. If either it's an inside dog. Yeah. the Secret service security does go down a little bit when you're ex like a former president instead of like the current president. Correct. It's a little bit less. Right. I feel like though your whole life, they're there. They're there. He's on the campaign trail. He's there. whether you you say fall that yeahp I just feel like such a high level of security. eight a This is like one of those like federal, like the secretive kind of details. Two assassination attempts. I don't, I don't feel like it's on Trump. I feel like it's two assassination attempts on the secret service head at this point, because why are you even getting close enough to attempt it? You know what I'm saying? And I feel like this, that's the part that throws me.
00:46:25
Speaker
You don't have paid security from a company. You have federal agents guarding you. Yeah. It happened twice. I don't know. I just don't know. Either an inside job or it's a hoax. Yeah. And the second one happening, the second one technically happening on your property that I don't know. First one i at your rally, the second one on your property. I just don't know. I just don't know. I just don't know. I ah just dont In other news, I don't know if you guys heard about this. The Tuskegee syphilis whistleblower passed away, unfortunately.
Peter Buxton and Medical Ethics Reflection
00:47:02
Speaker
So for those who don't know, Peter Buxton, a whistleblower who, in 1972, exposed a 40-year government experiment to track the effects of syphilis in black men in Alabama, who were neither told that they had the disease or they offered no treatment. He unfortunately passed away May 18 in California near Sacramento. He was 86 years old.
00:47:22
Speaker
And it just kind of, 186 is kind of young if you think about, you know, how long ago how long ago it was, if you really think about it. So what are you guys thoughts on this? Well, you know, one of my favorite books, The Medical Apartheid in Chronicle, the Tuskegee Syphilis Experiment. And I think that there's so much destruction and unfortunate ah medical circumstances that black people have faced in this country.
00:47:51
Speaker
that we neglect or don't even know, right? Henrietta Lacks, we talk about, there were experiments done on black prisoners in the 1930s, 40s, and 50s where they injected chemicals into their bodies to see how they would react to it. They even put diseases in mosquitoes um and had them go into a city in Florida and seeing how it affected the black community, how transmission of infect, so there's so many different um things that have manifested um in our,
00:48:19
Speaker
society and country in America that we neglect. And this is the education we need to know. Not the education of Christopher Columbus and all of them, as George Washington and all of them. We need to know how America has perpetuated violence against minorities and how we can continue to change that and in that narrative against health care disparities, mental health disparities and the like. So it's unfortunate. You know, I'm glad that he was able to whistle blow. But think about all the things that have happened in America where there was not no whistleblower.
00:48:49
Speaker
You know what I'm saying? like right It's a lot of that. ehe And I think with, you know, I think people try to say that things happened so long ago and this was in the past, but you can still see the rem, what is it, maybe like three or four generations, we yeah, four generations out. um For instance, like, you know, people still have distrust with doctors based on things that happened to their great grandparents, you know, um a couple generations ago. And I think we're still seeing the ramifications of this. And as a new physician, you know, just like in the labor and delivery wards where
00:49:23
Speaker
You know, you're counseling patients on, you know, how to augment their labor or, you know, you need a C-section and like the distress that a lot of our black and brown patients have with our, with the providers because of what their parents or their grandparents experienced. I even was on the shade room the other day.
00:49:40
Speaker
like just rolling and they're talking about how, um you know, healthcare care professionals like push C-sections onto black patients. And me as like, you know, we got an intern, yeah, for profit. for fuck And like, we got an intern, I wanted to defend the profession first and kind of be like, no, we have a whole practice bulletin about preventing the primary C-section. You know what I mean? But then I think about it and I'm just like,
00:50:05
Speaker
I can see if I wasn't was a healthcare person where I'm trying to prevent the primary C-section, I would see like, yeah, I could see why people think that way because of what they've done to black women in the past where they're not even managing their labor course as probably they should, and then they have to get a C-section. You know what I mean? so I think us as, you know, providers or incoming providers in healthcare, um I think it's super important that we build that rapport with our patients um and just show them a different side to healthcare. care And I think that's why we all went into healthcare, care honestly, is just to help our patients that way.
00:50:46
Speaker
So speaking of medical distrust, you know, something crazy happened.
Surgical Mishap and Its Consequences
00:50:53
Speaker
A surgeon removed the liver instead of a spleen. A man from Alabama, William Bryan, tragically died on the operating table after General Surgeon Dr. Thomas Shuknovitsky, alongside Chief Medical Officer Dr. Christopher Bakani, advised Bryan to undergo emergency surgery, warning him that leaving the hospital could result in serious complications.
00:51:16
Speaker
And what's happening now that the family has consulted a legal team. And with that being said, Dr. Shaq knocks whiskey, allows you to remove Brian's liver by mistake instead of his spleen, which indicates negligence, which is the thing that happens. Unfortunately. And do maybe you on this podcast, you know, uh, OB-GYNs have the highest malpractice. Yeah. Don't remind me.
00:51:39
Speaker
so yeah So be very careful. i'm not being I'm not putting pressure on you, but you the realities are that we are human beings and we make mistakes. ah This is a significant mistake because your liver is on the right side of your body. I'm sure a high school student can identify the liver.
00:51:59
Speaker
Right. It is super large. I'm just a lowly OB-GYN intern three months in. But if you laugh at that, if you laugh with that, it's not lonely. Don't say lonely. OK, newly minted. But I will say, if they ask me a question in the OR, and they say, what's that brown, smooth, upper quadrant? I'm going to be, is it the liver? And they're like, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I feel like.
00:52:28
Speaker
You don't have to be AOA to know what the liver is. Nah, I'm the pre-med on the call, and I could show you a liver. That's what I'm saying. And when the mythology report had me weak, they said but it is grossly identifiable as delivered. So they did not need a microscope. They looked at it and said, what did I receive? And they received a liver. And also, I was reading like the, there's like, I don't know if it's the real op note that was found on Reddit and things like that, um saying that there was you know some type of aneurysm that was connecting to the spleen that was bulging out the vein. That was like the portal vein. It wasn't you know like an aneurysm. It was just a mistaken identity, big time, I think. um But it also kind of goes to show having grace also in the medical profession just because, yeah, doctors, you make mistakes. Doctors are not perfect, obviously.
00:53:24
Speaker
but I feel like if pathology says this is grossly the liver, I feel like even the scrub tech knew it was the liver and then didn't. like I just feel like I don't know how you can mistake the liver for this plane. They're on two different sides of the body.
00:53:39
Speaker
This one is bad simply because they like encouraged the patient to get surgery. He was trying to leave A and B. And then he performed the wrong thing, you know, like, yeah, that's, and then killed him. That's kind of tough. Like, rest in peace to you, good sir. But that is extremely tough.
00:54:05
Speaker
It kind of reminds me of like Dr. Death, like that neurosurgeon that was just operating on people's back and not knowing what the heck he was doing or doing it on purpose, one of the two. And, you know, having these crazy outcomes. And I'm just hoping that the hospital actually investigates this, takes action. And even if it's an accident, it's the wrong accident. I don't think you should have many privileges with the liver or the spleen. Maybe stick to the appendix or something.
00:54:31
Speaker
I don't know. Yeah. This is this is.
00:54:38
Speaker
truly a tragic case, um one that we should take the opportunity to study from. Definitely one worth mourning. But I think that we can move on to something that we can talk about just a little bit more in depth. I want to take the opportunity. Sorry, guys. yeah We have never had two residents on the pod at the same time.
ERAS Application Tips and Strategies
00:55:01
Speaker
So I feel like this is a good opportunity. Welcome again, Dewey B.
00:55:08
Speaker
I think it's a good opportunity to talk ERAS. Oh yeah, ERAS season. And you know, ERAS season is here, or whatever. um they And MS4s are getting ready to yeah start navigating this process. So like put me on to whatever tips y'all got.
00:55:28
Speaker
um um So the deadline I think is approaching, if not already approached, right? ah Tomorrow. Tomorrow, yeah. So I remember I submitted my application. I remember the day. I literally have a video on my phone, like September 27th or something like that. And it was a ah there the season of residency applications, I was anxious. I had a baseline anxiety every time I woke up in the morning. So I was like, I need to make sure I match and have a job. If not, I'm paying another year of tuition or having to soap or all the other things.
00:56:00
Speaker
um So my key tips for your ass is, I mean it's kind of too late, but start early, I guess. Make sure you have before reading.
00:56:11
Speaker
but um Have someone reading your personal statement. I remember when I was drafting my personal statement and I thought I ate, I lived, I was like, I ate down. I'm going to hear talking about block maternal mortality. I'm talking about all these things I'm talking about.
00:56:24
Speaker
the stigmatization of HIV in you know the community. I gave it to one of my mentors and she said, you sound so stuck up. but You sound like you're trying to... like Everyone at OB-GYN was doing things wrong and you're here to save the day, kind of like how Trump is. And then so, of course, that's not my intention. I was just more passionate in the way I spoke and I'm very blunt with the way I speak. But unfortunately, because people don't know me,
00:56:49
Speaker
You cannot come off that way like you're trying to be the saving grace of a profession. um So I had to change my language, use new vocabulary, things like that. And it got me a decent amount of interviews. and I got a lot of people talking about my um personal statement during interviews.
00:57:05
Speaker
Another tip that I have is the big thing with like signaling and things like that is still kind of up in the air. Every specialty has like a different amount of signals. I know for OB-GYN, who's now a residency cast, not ERAS, but they have 15 signals. um Use those wisely. um I have no strategy for you. I applied to 108 programs with only 15 signals. um So I was kind of whatever stick sticks, sticks, because I knew at the end of the day,
00:57:31
Speaker
I was trying to get to where I am and I spent $2,700 on applications. um And yeah, I was crying at first, but in a match day I was like, I wasn't thinking about $2,000 or $3,000, whatever, because I knew where I wanted to kind of get in my life and I knew what I had to do to get there. So I pretty much put the buy off and that just removed the states that I don't live. Got you. Aldon, what about you? You got any tips for us?
00:57:57
Speaker
Bro, ah I've been closer to the mic. I can't hear you. My fault. You know, I've been through this process so many times. Like, I feel like a ass they've been running up on me. You know, overall, I'm about to spend over six thousand dollars. You know, this has been going back to the twenty two twenty twenty two season. And I believe fourth time is a charm. I want to I want to let you know something that and you know, I'll be transparent and real on the podcast. I mean,
00:58:23
Speaker
I believe in myself, I believe in my purpose, I believe in my happiness. And I'm actually going through the ARAS process currently. I'll be submitting later on today. You know, I'm in family medicine right now, but my passion lies in psychiatry. um And it's been a long time coming for me. You know what I mean? Like I was in the Raji residency. It's a long story. A lot of people that's so on the pod kind of kind of know a couple of them know. But um for me, you know, some of the tips that I would give to somebody is make sure You reach out to people of the respective programs that you're interested in, because oftentimes a lot of fourth year meds, when they see a Harvard, they see these institutions with big names and anything at all, like it's going to be all gravy. But these institutions, they're not necessarily a safe space for you to flourish. Yeah. You know what I mean? not I'm not saying that Harvard isn't, but I'm just saying in general. That's ah interesting. It's not always about the name. Yeah. It's not always about the name. You know what I'm saying? So make sure you reach and tap into people. A second thing that I advise people
00:59:22
Speaker
You got nothing to lose. Email, email programs of interest. Send your CV. Like the worst thing anybody could tell you is no, like I did that, you know, and in previous, like I got interviews from emailing.
00:59:35
Speaker
program directors, you know what I'm saying? My first time I applied biology and psychiatry and stuff like that. You know what I mean? It's like I had to someone hit me up like, oh, I mean, you'll get the invite in a couple of days, which it happened. You know what I mean? So these things you know really do manifest. Another thing is with your personal statement, I know it's a little late, but with your personal statement, um I may be a little different than most people, but I feel like you've got to do your personal statement and write it from the perspective of you. It has to be genuine.
01:00:04
Speaker
So don't be having like five, six people read your personal statement because they have a perspective on expression. Your expression is art and art is intimately connected to the genuine genuineness of who you are and what you represent. So for me, being able to express that in a way that I need to express it is very important. So ah i've I've shared my personal statement with one other person yeah for my psychiatry application this year. You know, one of my mentors. And I'm i'm going based off of that because I feel like I don't want to take the integrity way personally.
01:00:34
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for my psychiatry applications, you know what I'm saying? um This year, some of the things I'm doing, I'm applying to less programs. Last year, I applied to 90 some programs, spent $2,300. This year, and I think it's 48, 49, I think it is. And so i'm very being I'm being very targeted, you know what I'm saying, yeah how I'm moving with this process. Use your network. Don't be afraid to reach out to people, email, if you got somebody, even if they're in a different program,
01:01:03
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It's all about your net worth. I mean, net work. You know what I'm saying? Because based off of that, people could vouch and advocate for you. If you don't got nobody in that program to advocate for you, then it makes it a little bit of a challenge. But even if you send an email, that's down starting off off of a foundation. You know what I'm saying? And with psychiatry, you got 10 signals as well. So, um you know, use them wisely, be smart and you're going to prevail. You know, believe in yourself. God is going to put you in a position where you think you need to be.
01:01:32
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And again, this being my fourth time, I always going to believe in myself. I'm a prioritize my happiness. I know that it's going to shake regardless. Even though people is not supporting me, you know, I'm saying this in a political way. I'm in a situation where I'm not getting the support that I need, but I know that I'm moving forth with God's energy and the universe. yeah And I want y'all to know that no matter what challenges y'all face.
01:01:55
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that it's just stepping stone. It's part of your story and it's part of your greater glory. You know what I mean? And with that being said, the last thing I want to mention is also farms database for wave rotations. Make sure you check farms database out if you are a minority because it gives you a ah you know a whole listing of the different rotations that they pay for. Shout out to Stanford where I did my trauma psychiatry rotation. I got $2,000 and use that right for my applications. and 2022 in November or October. So shout out to them. I got a free 2002 K. So there's opportunities for you to really do these rotations and get some bread and they're connected to the faculty and improve your chances of getting into the match and being successful as well. So be very, very in tune with that.
01:02:39
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Yeah. Okay. I appreciate it. Sorry. It's a lot. guys oh Yeah. Yeah. No, well, I was expecting a lot and I actually had my pen and paper out and my hand kind of hurts right now. So but but thank you. Thank you for that. I will be using this information in the future. I also wanted to like, you know, if we still got a second.
01:02:58
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put me on to like the thought process that you guys use when choosing your medical specialty like how like do maybe how did you know ob ganwars for you and all doing you're actually like transitioning residencies how are you so sure like what's for you is for you at the moment
01:03:12
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Yeah, so with when I first got into medical school, I thought I was going to do primary care.
Choosing Medical Specialties
01:03:17
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um My dad did internal medicine doctor, so that's kind of the only doctor I kind of like visualized in my head, you know what I mean? So I thought that's what I was going to go into. But then I did my internal medicine rotation um during my second year of med school and I was like,
01:03:32
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All those rounding still make me very dizzy. um It's too much. So um I knew I still wanted to do primary care, but I found that I loved procedures. I'm also a type of person I love, like a targeted population too. um So when I was in my primary care clinics in medical school, I always gravitated towards like the well-woman exams, females in general, um just like talking about birth control. I also loved like younger populations of people too. So I thought out peeds for a little bit.
01:04:01
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When I did my OB-GYN rotation, I was really surprised at how much surgery there was and how I actually enjoyed surgery. I never really saw myself as a surgeon in general. like I always thought, okay, I'm going to do bedside, primary care, you know that sort of thing. I didn't think I had a surgeon's mind if that kind of makes sense or apt because I don't even like to build. definitely you know what i mean like I don't like to even put things together, so you know using my hands and stuff like that. but um It's my passion and like even like coming off of a night shift where I'm tired, want to cry sometimes, all those things, I still thank God every day that I'm able to like practice medicine in this country and help the population that I feel like truly deserves it. I love that. ah For me, I like to maybe, you know I wasn't comfortable with the well you know the wellness exams and talking to and connecting with
01:04:53
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ah woman. I just always felt uncomfortable. So shout out to the going to the rooms. They look next to you like, yo, I'm here to, you know what I'm saying? Get checked up. Why is a man in here? So shout out to y'all. I mean, I chose psychiatry. There was one that got the smoke, but that's for a day for stories. You know, yeah some bad that's the ah but for me, um, you know, I chose psychiatry because
01:05:23
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For me, you know I want to create holistic healing spaces, and I believe that if you can help someone heal from and the mental perspective, you can help them heal from a psychosocial, emotional, and physical um perspective. And I think it's very important for us to destigmatize. Okay. Yeah, bro. Like, destigmatize mental health. you know um Isolationism is ah is a real pandemic, right? We got 20% of America is experiencing depression.
01:05:52
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You know what I'm saying? i self form Some form of mental health, but less than 20% actually get the help for that. So I want to be an advocate, especially when we talk about the Black community post-traumatic slave syndrome and discrimination, and depression. you know We talk about generational trauma, all of these things, right? I want to utilize the community as a basis to really create spaces where we can um you know really engage and and be empowered and specific to you know things like of Roman therapy, yoga therapy, meditation therapy. Like I want to use psychiatry as a foundation to do things that medicine hasn't historically provided us for. Like for instance, in the next couple of weeks, I'll be doing a presentation and shout out to Josh on psychedelics and the diaspora and how that could be used as a space for healing for us. Cause oftentimes we think, Oh, this person got a certain disease, diabetes. We put them on insulin or metformin.
01:06:46
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or this yeah person got an MI or you know whatever the case may be, that's not treating the condition. right But a lot of people, they come in through these conditions because the traumas that they face, the traumas of being starved physically and mentally, the traumas of not knowing your parents, the traumas of being in an environment where you're challenged and you don't have the opportunity to have education and the resources to be who you need to be. So once we could tackle those issues, then we could then tackle what's going on in the hospital, which I think is a capitalistic structure that takes advantage of black bodies. So psychiatry is a bedlam for me to be able to do that and engross the beauty of our mental mind so that our physical spirit could then interact with the world.
01:07:32
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That's how I feel on it. That was deep. And I feel like you're the best person to talk about, you talked about isolationism.
National Suicide Prevention Month in Medicine
01:07:38
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And you know right now it's national suicide prevention. And the data shows that physicians have a very high rate of suicide just because of the things that we experience in work. They're also pretty isolated. Yeah, we have our patients, we have the work staff, but we and ourselves are isolated because we are very unique occupation that has to deal with traumas at work and they still deal with our own traumas, too. So I kind of want you to speak on national suicide prevention as a future psychiatrist. So ah thank you, Doom's. ah Yeah, no I that. You know, I think, you know, it's important, like ah like I mentioned, like the stigmatization of, us you know, so like I brought this up a little bit in the podcast in the past, but I've experienced suicidal ideation.
01:08:20
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while I was in my previous residency and in due part to experiencing the traumas of not feeling supported, cared for. I was in spaces and environments where I felt threatened. Being one of the only black men in the residency program and thinking to yourself like, am I worth it? I remember on my second, third day in my previous program of residency, I'm in the ICU and us. You know, one of the residents screams at me, you know what I'm saying? Out of nowhere, like, yo, finish your notes and all this kind of stuff. And he does that in front of everybody. And I'm like, yo, but there's other residents here, like interns that's here that got to finish their notes. Why are you targeting me? Why are you adding patience on my patient load and you're not doing it to them, right? These little nuances and these little suggestions of activity can cause someone to want to crash out. And it was many times that I wanted to. And I felt like I didn't have a place where I could connect with people.
01:09:10
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yeah I didn't feel like I could tell somebody what I was feeling and experiencing. And so for those people that are, you know, listening now, a lot of things as it pertains to suicidality, I think this is very important for us to show grace and love. Like we are missing that in medicine medicine. I'll be honest in a space that doesn't oftentimes comfort you. But if you find that one or two people that you can connect with, that you could express your vulnerabilities with, that's going to make things a lot easier. And we talk about even as a pertains to medicine,
01:09:40
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National Suicide Prevention, ah so ah Physician Suicide Prevention Day was on September 17th. So it was a whole host of people, unfortunately died due to mild injury due to medicine. Dr. Lorna Gray, Dr. Nikita Mortimer.
01:09:55
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Uh, you know, we talk about Dr. Jing Ma. I mean, there's a whole host of people and, you know, recently one of my homies succumbed to what medicine did to him. And I just want to say, anybody listening, saying like, yo, I love you. I appreciate you. I don't even need to know you, but I want to say that I'm proud of you. yeah Whatever you going through, like, you know, I want you to know that this is not your destiny. This is not your fate. You know, we, we, we are in this present moment in space. It may be something that made me not cumbersome, but you are beautiful. You are endowed. You are great.
01:10:26
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And I think that you're going to do what you need to do in order to get to where you need to get to, you know what I'm saying? So with that being said, um it's important for us to have these resources ah to access because that's one of the things, right? So 988, you could text it or call it. 988 is a great hotline that you could reach out to. If you're currently actively experiencing any suicidal thoughts, ideations,
01:10:48
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or if you know somebody else that's experiencing, you can even call them on their behalf and have them reach out to certain individuals too. And that's another thing that people don't really know. You know what I mean? Some other resources are Inclusive Therapists, which is a mental health community that commits and practices advancing justices and equity for all intersectional identities, which is very important. The melanin and mental health is another resource which is born out of a desire to connect individuals with culturally competent clinicians committed to serving the mental health needs of black and Latinx. Another resource for me personally that I love is Express Yourself Black Man, who on their page they do positive affirmation affirmations for black men, which is very empowering for me and that's happened each and every day they have their own podcast.
01:11:35
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The AA Coma Project is ah' another one. The mission is to help diversify a teenage and their families diverse. Teenage and their families achieve optimal mental health care through dialogue, learning, the understanding that everyone deserves. And then Mental Health America is another one that recognizes that people of color and all those whose lives have been marginalized by those in power experience life differently. And that's another resource that you could tap in. That's going to be in the link below. And it's very important for us.
01:12:02
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um to really advocate for ourselves. you know i mean So make sure that you take care of yourself, prioritize. If you need to take that sick day in residency, take it. If you're a medical student or pre-med student and you're not feeling good, it's okay not to feel okay. Express yourself to someone and don't feel guilt about it. Yeah, and I think you know because we have all been working on this, medicine is obviously a very long journey. And when you go into medicine, you have to have the passion. So I feel like sometimes you get to put disappointed when That day, we don't have the passion anymore because we are so burnt out. um Residency, we're working 80 hours a week. We're working weekends. um And though I love my program, like I wouldn't say my program's name if I didn't truly enjoy my program. It doesn't matter where you are. This job is tough. And I think we just all have to remember like to take a step back. And then at the end of the day, the medicine is our life, if I'm being quite honest. um It's not something that... like Personally, for me,
01:13:00
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you know If something goes wrong at work, I have to mentally compartmentalize. Because if not, I'm taking things home with me, and then I tend to ruminate on things. um So just practicing like mindfulness, practicing taking a break, telling people what you you need a break. There have been times where I was in residency, I was like, I just need a moment. I told my chief, I need a moment. You know what I mean? Because it's just like, I cannot drive myself to
Balancing Passion and Self-Care in Medicine
01:13:20
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that point. Because at the end of the day, unfortunately, just like they really wanted me in my spot, if I don't take care of myself,
01:13:29
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then they're going to find someone else that will take my spot at the end of the day. You have to take care of you because at the end of the day, this is a job. This is a job that, you know, though we love it and we're passionate about it, but let's say I can't do this job anymore. You know, they're just going to have six residents instead of seven. No, they're going to find all the other people that want to do OB-GYN. Take my spot. and but my I have to protect myself, you know what I mean? and I love my program. I love my program directors. Usenati is a great institution, but I have to take care of myself first and foremost, because if not, how am I going to take care of my patients and how am I going to be there the next day to continue and learn and be the best doctor I can be? so
01:14:06
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I think that's a great point. It's absolutely important to fill your own cup before you attempt to fill the cups of others. It's very important sentiment to admit that um physicians all over can get behind. And so very briefly, in order to ah honor National Suicide Prevention Month. We're actually going to read a short list of names of medical trainers or professionals who were victims to suicide and um and give them a brief moment to honor them. So we have Dr. gregn Greg Hamlin-Meday, internist. Dr. Kevin Thomas-Dieto. Student Dr. Caitlin Nicole Elkins. Student Dr. Sean Michael Petro.
01:14:50
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Dr. Emily Ariel Bamberger. Dr. Jacob Dr. J. Newfield. Student Dr. John Chuan Lo. Dr. Gabriel Goodwin.
01:15:05
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Dr. Evan Astin and Dr. Gregory Andrew Collins. These names are just a few of the many who were victims to their own hand in a field that they set out to in order to be able to help people. It's very important that we acknowledge the potential There is for suicide within medicine and that we acknowledge the signs that we may see in one another, the people that we see every day, those who are left, those who are right, and ensure that we, like you said earlier in the podcast, Aldwin, give people a little grace um and understand that while this is a very important profession, it is at the end of the day a profession and that
01:15:54
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you are only as strong as, or the people that you're going to help are only as strong as you allow yourself to be. And every now and again, doctors need rest. Doctors need doctors and doctors need to be able to take a break. So RIP to all of those beautiful souls. We hope that you rest in peace.
01:16:19
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Feedback Invitation and Conclusion
01:16:37
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01:16:50
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