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Ep 24: The Progesterone–Cortisol Steal — How Stress Is Hijacking Your Hormones
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In this episode, we break down a concept most women have never heard of—but absolutely need to understand: how stress (and the cortisol that comes with it) can literally steal your progesterone, especially in perimenopause when you don’t have much to spare.
With the holidays approaching and stress levels rising, we’re diving into why nervous system regulation is the true foundation of hormone balance… and why you can’t out-supplement, out-diet, or out-exercise chronic stress.
If you’ve been feeling more anxious, overwhelmed, or unlike yourself during perimenopause, this episode explains exactly why—and what you can do to rebuild safety, resilience, and hormone harmony.
Your body doesn’t need perfect. It needs peace.
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Transcript
Introduction to Podcast and Aging
00:00:00
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Welcome to What's My Age Again, the realest podcast for women who are done chasing trends and ready to feel empowered. Hi, I'm Kim. And I'm Tanya, holistic nutritionists and childhood best friends who've been there, done that, and bought the collagen.
00:00:16
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more than once. Each week we provide actionable steps that you can start today to help you thrive through every decade to come. We're cutting through the wellness noise to bring you honest conversations about aging, hormones, health, beauty, mindset, and everything in between.
00:00:33
Speaker
You see, we're also on a mission to age gracefully one WTF moment at a time. Backed by research and real life, we're here to share what actually works, what's a waste of time, and how to truly thrive through the messy, magical midlife transition.
00:00:49
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We're so happy you're here.
Nervous System and Hormonal Health
00:00:51
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Let's dive in. Hey, everybody. How are you? Welcome back to the podcast, What's My Age Again. Hi, everyone. Welcome back. Hi, Tanya.
00:01:02
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Hi, Kim. Well, guys, today is super neat because for the last couple months, every episode has probably touched upon the nervous system more than our favorite topic, our favorite favorite topic. And every episode, we've probably talked about it being the base of the pyramid to the point where you guys are like,
00:01:32
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I know. So listen, today we're not going to talk about that, but we're going to talk about some of the ways or one specific way of what happens, what can happen when we're not supporting our nervous system properly.
00:01:53
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Absolutely. And we're going to get into the hormone side of it. So we're going to talk about how, as Tanya said, it is the base of our pyramid. It is how we create the base of the pyramid, the foundational aspect of creating harmony with our hormones.
00:02:12
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Good one. That's a really good way to put it. So we talk about the nervous system in the past, getting ourself into the parasympathetic, what happens when we're always go, go, go, go. go um And today we're gonna get into a very very specific point that is very important when we're dealing with perimenopause, menopause, and being in this certain age group. And it's something that's called the progesterone cortisol steal.
00:02:44
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Yes. And actually we'll dig into a little bit deeper, but this is, was a big part of me balancing my hormones. um And we thought Tanya and I thought this was kind of the perfect time of year to talk about this. Because if you're listening to this a podcast in real time, we have the holidays just around the corner. In fact, you may already have your Christmas tree up and your house starting to be decorated.
00:03:09
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um And with the holidays can come all the joy and fun, but can come all the stress. um So again, this is the perfect time to talk about how stress can literally steal, as Tanya said, our hormones.
Stress and Hormonal Imbalance
00:03:24
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Yeah. So I don't know if anybody has heard of the progesterone cortisol steel, or when we start talking about it, you might've been like, oh yeah, I've kind of looked into this or I've heard about this, but it is super important. And this is like an empowerment episode. So what we mean by this is when you can understand what this is, um what is going on in the body and you're going, oh shoot.
00:03:52
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I think this might be me. This could very well be me. Now you will be armed with the information that you can go to your healthcare practitioner and say, Hey, this is what's going on. I think there might be a link between, you know, my progesterone and my cortisol.
00:04:11
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How can we work on this? So this is an episode of education and of empowerment and understanding the things that mainstream medical system doesn't really talk about.
00:04:22
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Well, and as Tanya said in a previous episode, and if you haven't yet listened to the our 101 episode, we'll link it here, where we talk about sort of all the hormones. And I love Tanya's analogies, as you know, and she talks about how there is the domino effect, right, with our hormones. So we're talking about one domino right now. So with our bodies and when we're looking holistically at them, there can be many different things going on and many different reasons. But this is one of, and we're going to sort of simplify it here for you today.
00:04:55
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I love this. So one domino that can cascade and cause a crap ton of problems. So let's framework this. Let's start with that domino.
00:05:06
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Stress. Holiday season in general. When our stress is high, our cortisol is high. Period at the end of the sentence because cortisol is one of those stress hormones made by the adrenal glands and cortisol gets released when the body's in fight or flight to help us deal with that stressor which the archaic brain thinks of.
00:05:34
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We need to fight or we need to flee. Release the cortisol. um And this has ripple effects. Like Kim said, the domino has ripple effects to our
Fight or Flight and Hormone Production
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entire body and our entire hormonal health. So often when we get to the age group that a lot of us listening are in and that me and Kim are definitely in, we often feel things a lot different now compared to our 20s and 30s.
00:05:59
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And there's a reason for this. Absolutely. And i think... Stress, court so again, we talked about that fight or flight response, right? And our bodies are beautiful things, right? When we are faced with stress, our cortisol rises, that whole running from a tiger where our body has... it releases the glucose. It allows us to go into that fight or flight mode. But then we calm down after that, right? And our body returns back into that rest and digest where we're healing. Our cortisol levels go down. The problem with today's society is when we are go, go, go, we're constantly in that fight or flight state and our cortisol is constantly pumping.
00:06:43
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Right. That is such a valid point. And here's the problem. When We are in fight or flight. We are in survival. And guess what?
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Our bodies can only do one thing at a time in terms of hormones. So your body is either making hormones to survive, to deal with all of the apparatuses of fight or flight,
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or it's making other hormones that deal with really important things. But right now your body's like, girl, those things aren't important because we are facing death, which oftentimes it's not. It's just the long to do it. Deadline. So but guess what?
00:07:29
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The body continues to favor making cortisol. And guess what from the title you can guess falls towards the wayside? Progesterone. Yes.
00:07:40
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Should we do a little science lesson here for a second? Of course we can. You were like, okay Bill Nye, the science guy over here is Kim. and how referr So to simplify it a little bit, as Tanya said, our, you know, our progesterone and our cortisol come for that same precursor hormone, which is prenatalone.
00:08:04
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Prenilone. Sorry, I said that wrong. Tanya, go for it. Right. So here's the thing we, we need that precursor hormone to make, it's a component of both cortisol and progesterone. So as we said, the body is going to always pick survival over making other hormones. So as the title says, the body will continue to steal this precursor and continue to make cortisol instead
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of progesterone. And this is a problem because progesterone is one of our key calming and balancing hormones.
00:08:48
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And again, we talk about this in previous episodes. Take a peek at the show notes if you haven't listened to them already. So this hormone Nutshell version helps us sleep, helps keep anxiety in check, supports our thyroid function, and it balances estrogen. So it helps us feel less overwhelmed and more capable.
00:09:12
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But when we need that the most, if we're in fight or flight, we're making that hormone the least. Exactly. And so if you've also heard the term
Kim's Personal Hormone Journey
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estrogen dominance, this is where that comes from.
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When we have that progesterone steal, it doesn't necessarily mean we have high estrogen. It could mean that we have absolutely optimal levels of estrogen, but what it could mean is that we have low progesterone due to prioritizing our body, prioritizing creating cortisol instead of that progesterone. So you end up having these sort of estrogen dominant symptoms, which is actually sort of my experience back in my thirties. I used to get migraines once a month.
00:09:59
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you know at that time when we talked about in perimenopause 101 um that at the end of our cycle right before our bleed that is when progesterone rises right and so if you are if your body is if your cortisol is stealing that progesterone your progesterone is lower so at the end of your cycle you could feel quite you know symptoms of pms the migraines the the cramping, um the anxiety, the mood swings, that could all be because of lower or the progesterone steal.
00:10:33
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Right, and we see a lot of this with our clients, for example, clients thinking, no, well, you know, I can't possibly have estrogen dominance because, you know, I'm not eating a certain way and I'm really taking care of my liver and I'm absolutely positive. I'm not that candidate for estrogen dominance. But as you just said, Kim, it doesn't necessarily mean you're taking in an abundance of estrogens or xytoestrogens, or you're unable to properly detoxify estrogens if you've you're sure that you're doing that. It can just be that the body is making so much less progesterone that it's impossible to balance. Even if in theory on your own, your estrogen isn't elevated. So like to completely define this in one sentence here, this cortisol, cortisol, I'm sorry, progesterone steel to really understand it, ladies.
00:11:35
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Under stress, your body literally steals the precursor hormone, that pregne-alone, think that's how you say it, um to make more cortisol. Because remember, it can only do one thing at once and it's in fight or flight. So it's like, we definitely need to make cortisol. So all we're going to do with this precursor hormone is make cortisol. And this is what is the sheer definition cortisol.
00:12:04
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the cortisol progesterone steal. Absolutely. And so, you know, one of the thing is, if again, as we said, this can be one, as Tanya said at the beginning, if you're sort of nodding your head along to this being like, oh yeah, these are sort of my symptoms that I experience, or could this be it? This is a time where you would talk to your practitioner about it and ask if this could be your picture, right? And certainly for me, one of the major ways to support this is your nervous system. A lot of different things to do in terms of supporting your adrenal glands and getting that cortisol under control, but also a big, huge, as Tanya said, foundation of the pyramid is supporting your nervous system.
00:12:54
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Right. And in times like this, we're not looking to fight against our hormones and work so hard on that tip of the pyramid. Exactly. When the best thing we can do right now is if we feel like, you know, this might be us, we're having that, that steel is to nourish the nervous system. And here, like for some examples here, when stress stays high and our body isn't making enough progesterone now, as we age in general, we're making less progesterone, but the longer that we're in chronic stress, that's just secondary,
Diet, Lifestyle, and Hormones
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right? So we're making even less. yeah we're not helping
00:13:34
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it exactly helped us It is definitely not helping. Um, we're going to start to see more of those classic perimenopausal symptoms intensify or appear if you didn't have them before again,
00:13:48
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that overwhelm because we talked about what progesterone does, that anxiety, that irritability that you can't shake. Maybe it's poor sleep, um, irregular cycles and just that lower resilience to stress. And like all of this around the holidays is extra debilitating. So this might be some of your signs and symptoms, especially if you're like, yeah,
00:14:15
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I'm definitely mostly in fight or flight that you are stuck in this loop of the cortisol progesterone steel. So how does this impact hormone balance in general? That's something that we should also arm ourselves and know.
00:14:32
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Absolutely. Well, we talked about the low protect progesterone with the cortisol steel. that can create that feelings of estrogen dominance. Just as you said, Tanya, as we discussed, it's not necessarily that you have low estrogen or high estrogen. You may have optimal levels of estrogen. It's that your ratio of estrogen progesterone is off. So that's number one. Number two is high cortisol.
00:15:00
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Can, you know, we talked about blood sugar in our blood sugar episode, right? And constant high cortisol creates that domino effect with blood sugar instability. It impacts our insulin.
00:15:14
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It creates inflammation in the body. It impacts our thyroid. Low progesterone also impacts our thyroid. And you know, if like some of the symptoms of this could be weight gain around the midsection. Yeah, there's, those are definitely a lot of those those high cortisol symptoms and Again, if we are seeing this time after time, which most of us are staying in this fight or flight mode, um for lack of a better word, that pyramid that we're trying to build on, it starts to crumble without that strong foundational levels. And, you know, Kim, you talked about having estrogen dominance um in your youth, you know, with those migraines or whatever. think
00:16:05
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Definitely, definitely 1 million percent had estrogen
Managing Stress and Adrenal Health
00:16:09
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dominance. Also just dietary wise, I was consuming a diet that was very um meat heavy and we're not talking free range or grass fed or, you know, any of those things like, so I was definitely consuming a lot of added hormones because we know not only do animal products have their own hormones because.
00:16:30
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my tweet But feed lots with all the injected extra hormones and all of that. So tons of dairy. I was the dairy queen. We talked about that.
00:16:42
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So I had symptoms of estrogen dominance back then. Mine were definitely irregular cycles. Big one for me was that breast tenderness. That would start like...
00:16:55
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14 days before the bleed, like half your cycle, you you know? So it was really obvious to me and a lot of bloating and water retention, even around the ankles and the fingers. So an interesting point is a couple months ago, I started to have this return of breast tenderness before my cycle came back. And a couple other symptoms where I was like, Hmm,
00:17:20
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And it was at a super busy time in my life. And it was after, you know, some stress and it all came down to that progesterone cortisol steel for me. I'm like, how can I be estrogen dominance when my estrogen is plummeting because I'm 44 and I eat in a completely different way now.
00:17:41
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Um, but it was, it was because i added that extra precursor. to having even less progesterone and then the progesterone estrogen steel. And I've said it before, what changed everything was supporting my nervous system. Not ah only did that completely change the symptoms that i was having,
00:18:02
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We talked about it again, ladies, if you want to cheer out the window again, or, you know, on your walk, do a little woo. And my period came back because I supported my nervous system. Yes. And, and I mean, especially in perimenopause and we got into all of it as well in a previous episode too, or there could be many episodes about this in the future, but you know, if you're, if you, for example, if we're in a stage of perimenopause where we're skipping ovulation, some, some months, that could lead to those estrogen dominant symptoms because you're not producing the progesterone for that reason too. So, you know, but I think the point of this podcast today is low hanging fruit. Let's do the thing that can help support our hormones and get that base of the pyramid, um which is support our nervous system.
00:18:53
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so that we don't get into a situation where our hormones are fluctuating because of perimenopause. And as well, that cortisol is stealing the progesterone, exacerbating those symptoms.
00:19:05
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And as Tanya mentioned for her, that was sort of like, that was the key. That was the key to supporting her hormones. and I almost want to think of an analogy and my head is not coming up with good ones, but like, like you phrased it before, it doesn't help the the steel. It's like being kicked when you're down, yeah like already your body is like struggle bus express at our age, trying to produce progesterone. And then the steel comes down and just gives you a little kick in the ribs there. And it makes even harder.
00:19:36
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Right. And this is why we cannot out supplement out diet or out exercise chronic stress. You can't do it.
00:19:47
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It is foundational guys. I know we're repetitive and I know it's the tough love, but this is it. It's a practice until we bring our nervous system back into the parasympathetic until we bring our body back into feeling safe.
00:20:03
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Our hormones are most likely always going to be playing catch up, right? ah Absolutely. Absolutely. And I mean, for me personally, in my, um you know, as I said, I was experiencing estrogen dominant symptoms in my 30s, I had debilitating migraines monthly, where I would literally and for those of you who get migraines, they understand this, it would knock me out for a few days. It's, it was the one thing that I couldn't push through, right? My body was like, you're done.
00:20:35
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And um it was until I moved into that understanding, actually worked with a practitioner to figure out that it was in fact, as we discussed, that estrogen dominant picture.
Supporting the Nervous System
00:20:49
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And from there, we supported my adrenals.
00:20:54
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We supported my nervous system and I haven't had a migraine. And were you surprised or did you kind of figured or were you totally surprised to hear that it was estrogen dominance for you at that stage. So for me, I didn't know what I know now, right? As you know, I move i moved into this later in in later in my 30s. So at the be in my early, this was probably late 20s, early 30s for me. And no, until I worked with a functional health practitioner, my method for supporting my migraines was painkillers.
00:21:27
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Well, you specifically... went at this stage in your life to your practitioner because you couldn't deal with your migraines anymore. Not really even understanding all of this was tied in behind. And I'm only asking the clarification for this because this speaks true. I think to so many women out there who I know are dealing with these monthly migraines and they're just like, ah, this is the day the aura comes. Yep.
00:21:50
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yeah This is the day the migraine comes because it's my period. Well, and it goes back to the whole thing of common and normal. right? Like, yes, these symptoms are common. So many women get ah PMS symptoms, right? We talk about them. They get the tender breasts, they get the headache or the mood swings or the anxiety or anything like that, but they certainly aren't normal, right? And digging in, and for me, a lot of it was the adrenals, the liver, the nervous system support.
00:22:23
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And for you, it can be a whole, you know, other things as well. But Getting to the root cause is is what changes everything for you, right?
00:22:35
Speaker
And I love that you just mentioned the like the little middle, midsection of the pyramid that we still have yet to really deep dive into because everything's just so involved. But yes, things like liver, things like digestion, these are all key factors.
00:22:50
Speaker
And they're all key factors that at the end of the day, go back to support the nervous system as well. And remember guys, especially if you're listening in real time, coming into the holidays, we don't need perfection. Your body is not asking you for perfection because guess what?
00:23:10
Speaker
That's probably going to stress you out even more. And that's going to put you right back into fight or flight. And then the cortisol is going to be like, yoink, let me steal. And I'm going to not make progesterone. We just need grace.
00:23:22
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The body needs peace. So I think, you know, in the final moments of this podcast, we'll just reiterate what kind of things you can do simply list them off.
00:23:35
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to bring some of that peace and slow down that progesterone cortisol steel. And for lack of a better word, stop getting kicked in the ribs while we're down. We're already trying to make progesterone here, ladies. Right. Set the foundation, right? Set the foundation so that you can build upon that.
00:23:53
Speaker
So number one, and I always say this, is start your morning for you. Start your morning morning with calm and not chaos. And maybe for me, the biggest one for me was not looking at my phone first thing in the morning. Because let's face it, as soon as you look at your phone, your energy is diverted elsewhere. There's...
00:24:12
Speaker
You know, whether it's social media, whether it is your work emails, whatever it is, you are light you're putting out fires for others or your energy is going into different directions and not, you know, intentionally where you would like to put it. So starting your morning with calm is number one for me.
00:24:31
Speaker
That is absolutely amazing. So you want know one for me that's changed everything in the past couple months and I've made the time to do it because um i think a lot of you know only in like the last month and a half, I had to say goodbye to my walking partner, my little bestie, my greyhound, Pete. We love you. So many people love you. umm The sweetest dog ever.
00:24:56
Speaker
like My boy. So walking after meals, Kim, you know how hard I worked on this because I didn't want to lose that just because I don't have a dog right
Mindful Eating and Rest
00:25:07
Speaker
now. And I'd like to link that walking after meals. We talk about this, you know, in a podcast, what it does when Kim did a beautiful analogy about actually utilizing our glucose in our storefront before we put in the back of the house, not only for that reason as well, but the sense of gratitude that gives me just to be out into nature and to walk after those meals, it's twofold there. And like, even last night on our walk, I just wanted to bring this up with my husband and I, he was talking about someone at his work saying to him, like, you're pretty like,
00:25:42
Speaker
chill. Like you don't seem to get like super worked out and stressed out. And we talked about how proud we are and how far we've come because, you know, we've moved from the chaos of go, go, go Southern Ontario, GTA, and both having jobs in go, go, go industry that literally took us our health down. It was a 24 seven situation and the gratitude that we have for how we've changed our mindset, how we see things half full now, and how long we worked to get here to change that. So that is fund foundational. So, Sarah, that's a two-in-one. Walking after meals, not only for that physical part, but for that gratitude that comes with it.
00:26:33
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Absolutely. And I love that, Tanya. And for those of you who are in a go-go I mean, there are a lot of like high power women listening to this and, you know, I think that's amazing, right? We want to be able to go, go, go.
00:26:48
Speaker
But what we can't forget is that we also need to nurture ourselves. Because at the end of the day with this cortisol, which what we're going to get into at a different podcast, it's not for this one, is our cortisol can be go, go, go. We can be producing high cortisol for a while until one day our poor adrenals go, we can't do this anymore.
00:27:08
Speaker
So for another podcast, but for those of you who are, i mean, we want you to continue to go, go, go and do the fabulous things that you're doing in this world. But remember to nurture yourself first.
00:27:23
Speaker
Yeah, Kim, we don't want her adrenal glands to kick the bucket. yeah So it means finding that space. And again, having the gratitude to meet yourself where you are.
00:27:36
Speaker
Again, my life is not just all rainbows and sunshine relaxation, but it's definitely different because we plan our time, our walks, our gratitude in there, which also brings me to another favorite.
00:27:48
Speaker
Slow is one of my favorite things that I really try to bring into my life. Make time to eat slow, slowly, and mindfully. if you Remember how we said earlier? your dad Your body picks one thing. Survival versus everything else. So if you are in fight or flight, sympathetic mode while you're eating, guess what?
00:28:13
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Your body is choosing survival and you are digesting and assimilating Nothing. And have you ever heard guys, sorry to be frank. So you're so nervous. Oh my God, I have an interview with this and that and have to keep running to the bathroom. you Got the runs.
00:28:28
Speaker
That's why everything you eat is going right through you because you're in a big state of fight or flight. Yeah. And I mean the parasympathetic system, we refer to it as the rest and digest. And I would also add the word heal onto that.
00:28:46
Speaker
But yes, much. so foundational and also foundational again we can relate this it's holistic nutrition right we can relate this to everything but like you are only you know we talk about you know we use the phrase you are what you eat well actually you are what you absorb right so supporting that digestion is so important so making that time to sit and eat slowly and mindfully and chew your food go ahead Tanya I see you're ready to
00:29:18
Speaker
You are what you absorb. We're getting tank tops made. And eventually when we have merch, y'all are going to want to order them. i love this Kim. a I love it. And what about you are what you absorb? What about also you are what you eat? What about you are what you don't eat? So here's another one.
00:29:37
Speaker
Don't skip meals, guys. No matter how busy you are, don't skip meals. Don't give your body the chance to have these big highs and lows in your blood sugar because what goes up, Kim says, must come down. And when there's crashes, your cortisol will spikes up because it's like, oh my God, we need glucose. We're going to die. And guess what happens? It steals all of that precursor hormone, less progesterone for you.
00:30:03
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. And then we've talked about this too, finding ways to create joy in your life, community in your life. You know, all of those things that bring you joy are helping to support your nervous system.
00:30:22
Speaker
I couldn't agree more. And that's again, where that gratitude piece comes in, not toxic po positivity, not rose colored glasses, but that real gratitude for how far you've come where you are. And even if it's just one portion of your life, because things are really hard right now, trying to find that gratitude and joy is instrumental.
00:30:44
Speaker
And another big one, sleep and rest. If you're thinking to your mind, if if you're like, if you have been listening on repeat to our sleep episode, because you're struggling with sleep right now because of low progesterone, because that goes hand in hand, it's that, it's that wheel, right? And it's super frustrating.
00:31:06
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Rest, you can focus on that rest piece and sleep will come with all of these foundationals that you're doing.
Empowerment through Hormone Knowledge
00:31:13
Speaker
So sleep and rest allow your body, we talked about it, going into that parasympathetic system. This is another time before sleep to kind of do those modalities to help support getting you back into that parasympathetic system so that you're also in that healing mode.
00:31:32
Speaker
Absolutely. So at the end of the day, all of this to say, we don't need anything else trying to steal our progesterone. So if you think that, you know, this could possibly be something that's affecting you, this cortisol, progesterone, steal, you are now armed with not only understanding, or maybe for the first time knowing this actually exists, but But being able to go see your healthcare practitioner and look into it deeper, or just start to do a couple more things if you think you have it under control and see how that might change.
00:32:08
Speaker
Maybe your symptoms, you know, your breast tenderness, your migraines, et cetera, and knowledge is power. So here's another piece of it for you this week. Absolutely. And as Tanya, always our intention with this podcast is to help you women prioritize yourselves. right? And sometimes we need a why. And so this is just one more reason why we need to prioritize ourselves to support our nervous system. And going into this busy season where we are prioritizing everyone else, we wanted to give you this little reminder today of why we need to actually prioritize ourselves.
00:32:46
Speaker
And if it's simply why, because I don't feel like getting kicked in the ribs. when Take that with you ladies and roll with it until next week.
00:32:57
Speaker
Love it, Tanya. As always, thanks for this conversation. I feel like we went off on a couple of different unforeseen tangents today. I really like this. It took a little journey and. I think it worked. And as always, reach out if you have podcast ideas, episodes, ideas, things that you want to talk about. You know where to reach us. Take a peek in the show notes below and we will see you all next week.
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00:33:34
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