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After The Final Pour - S8E3 - 3 Floyds - Zombie Ice
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This week we same 3 Floyd's latest release "ZOMBIE ICE" double pale ale.
"Crafted with an unholy amount of citra hops, this Undead Double Pale Ale heralds the zombie evolution after the dust has settled from the apocalypse."
Thanks to Kevin and Deb Goggin for the theme song.
Outro music by Fluid Minds
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Transcript
Introduction to 'After the Final Pour'
00:00:30
Speaker
When life gives you an empty cup Just crack a smile and fill it up Fill it up Welcome to After the Final Pour brought to you by The Malting Hour I am one of your hosts Tony Golic, joined always with Brandon Winninger and Dan That's two back-to-backs like
00:00:57
Speaker
big Dan's like that. I didn't know when you were going to release these. So maybe they're not back to back. They're going to be, uh, Hey everybody, what's going on? Uh, hope you're enjoying your day.
00:01:09
Speaker
Hope you're enjoying your Monday or whenever you're listening to this. Brandon, you curated this after the Final Four. What the hell are we drinking? Unless you don't have it in front of you. I do. I can stall, and then I can look it up real quick.
Tasting Three Floyds' Zombie Ice
00:01:25
Speaker
We are drinking Three-Foid Brewing's Zombie Ice. Undead Double Pale Ale.
00:01:33
Speaker
Crafted with an unholy amount of Citra hops, this double undead pale ale heralds the zombie evolution after the dust has settled from the apocalypse. Threefloids.com. It's 8.5% ABV, 55 IBU, and is now available year round. You guys, have you taken a whiff or a sip yet? Yes. Both. Let's get this done. They jumped out of the glass.
00:02:02
Speaker
smelling like zombie dust. Like I haven't had a zombie dust in probably two years, but I smelled it and I was like, holy shit. Like it smells like zombie dust. Wow. Okay. I've had zombie dust. Maybe old zombie dust. I don't know. It hasn't been a while for me, but it just smells like a very nice, like Citra hopped beer. Um, the color on it is very much like a pale ale close to an IPA.
00:02:29
Speaker
There might be a little bit of chill haze to this. True 3 Floyd style. Absolutely.
Double Pale Ale Debate
00:02:35
Speaker
As Dan had said before we started recording, why call it a double pale ale when you can just call it an IPA? Well, because it's eight and a half percent. That's a fucking double IPA. I don't get the double pale ale thing because I took a sip. It drinks like an IPA. But with that being said, it's really fucking delicious.
00:02:56
Speaker
I really, really, really like this. I love Citra hops. I feel like that is like, that's almost my go to hop and I try to get away from that when brewing. But man, Citra just is encompasses that nice, pithy, citrusy,
00:03:16
Speaker
fucking flavor and aroma that I want in pale ales and IPA. It's it's super pleasant and super makes your beers super easy drinkable. And what? And I know both of us, Tony, I think you sent it to me after I literally I just saw it and I was like, What the fuck is zombie ice? I sent it to Dan and Clark as
Distribution and Market Strategy
00:03:38
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well.
00:03:38
Speaker
Yeah, so just knowing there's a, you know, a new iteration of zombie dust out there was super, super appealing to me. And that's, that's why I grabbed this, I was, you know, curating our Irish St. Patrick's Day episode, and they had these tall boys just sitting in the cooler and I'm like,
00:03:59
Speaker
But I'm grabbing three of those. This is... I am really glad that you did, because I wanted to try it. And I was happy when you sent this a picture. I gotta say, I mean... Fuck. So this is... Is this a 19.2 ounce can? Yep. Fuck yeah. I'm glad they got into that game. You know, Zombie Dust used to be a beer.
00:04:24
Speaker
that was tough to get. And Three Floyd's was so smart about just releasing it the way they did. Same thing. Super, super elusive to the point where there was times you could only.
00:04:34
Speaker
Like if you wanted to secure it, like your best bet was going to the brewery. And like you were lucky on that day, if you showed up to pick up stuff and they had zombie dust on the menu and you grab that. And I commend them for that. That was a great way of doing it. Now you can find zombie dust and gumball head like regularly available. And I like the fact that they, much like Fat Tire or New Belgium's Voodoo Ranger, that they do like all these different iterations.
00:05:04
Speaker
And I'll be honest, when I see those from New Belgium, I tend to like gravitate towards and be like, OK, let's see what this is like. Let's see what this is like. Let's see what this is like.
Branding and Nostalgia
00:05:13
Speaker
I like that this is a new seasonal beer because it kind of makes three Floyd zombie, you know, name or where or what am I looking for? What's the word I'm looking for? This is definitely after the final. I will say, let me let me build off of that. I think I'm going where you're going.
00:05:30
Speaker
It's there's another beer podcast that I've listened to where they wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, we don't talk about it. I'm not saying any names, but we I said beard, by the way, I say they were focusing on how a lot of brands are doing brand extensions and like zombie dust and not like not like the two to Ranger like the two hearted series now with two hearted hazy hearted and also which by the way, I did.
00:05:57
Speaker
pick that up. I didn't check them all in. All of all four of those hearted beers are worth the 12 pack of purchasing. But I was gonna say this kind of reminds me of like the answer to the voodoo ranger, which is like a they've been doing like a heavier IPA and the tall boy can and the grocery stores that I've been seeing. I feel like this is like the local like answer to that. And it reminds me of it's like giving me like nostalgia vibes like it reminds me of like
00:06:27
Speaker
probably 2013, 2014, like the pipeworks bombers. Yeah, that's kind of like what I'm like the the beer. It's like those like old school pipeworks IPAs. I'm not going to throw any other breweries out there, but there are some cans that are this size where I'm like, I don't I don't I don't need that. I need it like this. I'm not saying that like I want this particular beer like this, but this is way
00:06:55
Speaker
The quality on this type of beer for that size is really, really good. I thought I was going to go back to the Irish beer that we had earlier. I might just sip on this to end the night, to be honest, because it's really, really
Craft Beer Culture Impact
00:07:12
Speaker
tasty. I'm a sucker for Citra hops, man. This is delicious. Yeah, and I don't think this is the standard format. I do think it comes in 12 ounce.
00:07:22
Speaker
bottles or cans. I would definitely grab this to have on hand to sit in my fridge because this is just as exciting for me personally as zombie does. I feel like they nailed this. Again, I love the fact that gumball heads a wheat ale, but it's fucking not a wheat ale.
00:07:45
Speaker
And zombie does what zombie does considered a paleo. Yeah. Yeah, it's not. It's an IPA. And say that with gumball, like, but this is like Alpha King considered a paleo, too, I think. Oh, what's going on there, Dan, playing some music. Yeah, you're right. But like, I love the fact that like they give these, you know, that's their version of it. But this like stretching the limits. Now I love it. I love it because I feel like three Floyds because their things became very much available.
00:08:14
Speaker
Um, I think maybe a lot of people kind of just got used to it, especially here in the Midwest of just being like, okay, well now it's like already available. There've been random times where I've grabbed like gumball head and be like, okay, cool. I got gumball head. And I wasn't like super like excited about it. I was happy that I got it. But like now that there's this like new iteration, a much like the new Belgium voodoo ranger series. This is awesome. I would love to have a six pack of this because
00:08:40
Speaker
This can itself is going to make me not be happy. I have to go to work tomorrow morning. Hmm. Yeah, it's a it's a good beer. And yeah, it does come. I just looked. It comes in 12 ounce cans and six packs. So I want I want a six pack. Yeah. So when I saw the album, three million. How much? Three million. So for me, like 425 for.
00:09:07
Speaker
this almost 20 ounce beer can that's
Future of Three Floyds
00:09:10
Speaker
almost 9%. And there's some, you know, Goose Island's got what? What's the 9.9%? The beer hug. The beer hugs. Whatever the beer hug is. Like that's the same, probably about three bucks or whatever. But like, you know, I like that. I do like that beer, but these were side by side. Got to be honest. I'm reaching for this one. Yeah. Like my go to, especially when I, when I travel for like, I haven't lately, but when I do travel for work and if I'm like,
00:09:37
Speaker
at the hotel and I'm like, I want to have a beer tonight. And I don't want to go and be around people. I'll run to the liquor store down the street. And like my go to and tall boys is always like, like, absolutely something. Absolutely. And because those are usually like a dollar ninety nine. Like those are really super cheap. We still need to do like a full like we need this episode because much like Three Floyds, that's a lot a big part of our craft beer background.
00:10:04
Speaker
Yeah, we have to hit them up with the reopening, hopefully soon, of the Chicago taproom, which is... Dude, that is still my favorite taproom. Have either one of you... Sorry, not to cut you off, because we're talking about three flights. Have either one of you been to three flights? Yes.
00:10:26
Speaker
I have not. I've been I've been there a couple times to pick up beer. I've been there to I've dined in when they had their brew pub. I dined at the brew pub. And I've been there for a Dark Lord day. That's what I want to do this year, but I'm I'm not available. I will say this, this to me is I was kind of concerned when they close the brew pub, because I thought maybe three Floyds was just
Design and Innovation
00:10:53
Speaker
tapping out and maybe things were not so great. But to see something like this, the zombie ice, a new brand, a new type of beer that to me, I think is exciting. And I feel like people that I know would really enjoy this. Also, I really love the design on the can. I'm looking at this can and like, I wish it was a sticker.
00:11:14
Speaker
on the cans so I can peel off and throw in my beer fridge. It looks like a white walker. I was literally going to say very reminiscent. So I was looking at their new zombie dust cans, which are like a green zombie. It's an extension off of the zombie dust cans, just like a blue or like silver. It's a nice, it's a nice, fun rebranding. And I feel like
00:11:37
Speaker
I love Three Floyds. With the Dark Lord days, Brandon, you would have shared some Dark Lord with me if I had some Dark Lord. I'm sure anybody who listens to this has had a Dark Lord where there's two categories.
00:11:55
Speaker
You love it or it tastes like soy sauce. And I've had both. I really have had both. I've had one where I was like, holy shit, this is really good. And I'm like, ooh, I understand the soy sauce idea. So just knowing that Three Floyds is still out there doing something like this, it was really, for me, I was super excited to see this beer. That's why I shared the post with you guys. And Brandon, I'm so happy that you found it because
00:12:22
Speaker
This gets me excited for Three Floyds again, man. This is really a really fun, tasty beer. Yeah. One of these days we have to- Oh, it's 19.2 ounces. One of these days we have to
Beer Storage and Taste
00:12:35
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crack into. I probably have
00:12:38
Speaker
Four or five dark pours? You for sure have some. If there's any other person who knows what you have, it's me. Yeah. But I definitely think we should do, like next time we're all together, we'll do that as an after the final pour. For sure. I'll remind you. And I will honestly say, I think the whole soy sauce thing is dependent on how people store their beers.
00:13:01
Speaker
Absolutely. And if they don't store it correctly or if there's consistent changes in temperature, that's going to screw it up. If I'm not mistaken, the one that... I'm sorry to cut you off. No, go ahead. I was going to say, if I'm not mistaken, the one that I had that didn't remind me of soy sauce was the one that I had with you.
00:13:21
Speaker
Well, that's good to know. Back in the day. Even when my stuff was at the condo, I kept all my stuff in the basement of my condo.
00:13:36
Speaker
You know, five floors down in the not five, like it was actually a little below ground level, but it stayed in there and it was always like a consistent like 65 degrees. And then like we're keeping now it's usually around a consistent 65 degrees. Doesn't get much warmer than that. So it's funny going in there. I'm going to go open one now, see what it is. It's funny. It's funny going in there when we're recording, because that's where I take my break and I vape in that room.
00:14:05
Speaker
because it is cooler. And like, I've talked about before I've done it, I've done a video and I never posted it to Instagram, like a quick boomerang of like, we've I've talked about it. For years, we've been doing this podcast now of taking pictures or videos of what you have
00:14:23
Speaker
And I think a quick video would show people how much you have. And if you guys know, when we go into Brandon's cellar and grabbing those beers, there's not a lot of times he pulls those out and they are ready to drink. It's the coolest temperature you can get where it's still close to room temperature.
00:14:43
Speaker
It's perfect. It's the perfect selling that like I could ever imagine. It is 95 percent of the stuff in there is stouts. So, yeah, I mean, there's so many things where Brandon, I just got to tap you on the shoulder and be like, let's let's do this. I was like, can we open the other times also where we like do a full episode like what about this? Like, God damn it, Brandon, we just we just drank all these. We're not doing this tonight. Dan, how many white walkers? I'm sorry. Oh, not white walkers. What's that? What's that?
00:15:12
Speaker
how many john snows are you giving this one damn um i am going to give this four point i'll do four point seven wow the north dude dude i gotta be honest like i really thought
00:15:37
Speaker
because it's marketed as a double pale ale at 8.5%, which is, no, I mean, I'm not like way over a pale ale, but like you're going off like the actual, like the fact, like I really thought you were going to go lower. Like I'm that that's for. So it's like, I looked, it's brewed. I think it was packaged on two 15. So it's like two months, two weeks old ish. And it's like,
00:16:03
Speaker
I don't know. It's just like the hops taste super fresh right now. It's just like tasting really good right now. Yeah. So for me, like my my expectations with three Floyd's is always like, oh, if it's a double pale ale, like it's going to be a hop forward, probably taste drink like an IPA. Same thing with like Alpha King, like when I did that clone and I was like, this is this is more along the lines of a like an IPA. And and I think that's just it's.
00:16:32
Speaker
Three Floyds pushing the style, and what I think they do is they use the grain bill that is attributed to those things. They just amplify it and they get as much as they can out of it, which gives you an eight and a half percent, what they're going to call a double pale ale. Is it? Which at that point, it's like two 4.25 ABV beers.
00:16:57
Speaker
There's no category in like beer judging that's double pale ale. I don't think so. Like I don't think so either. What would you give this as far as. John Snow's.
Rating Zombie Ice
00:17:10
Speaker
Oh, I was right before what when you started asking Dan, my first the first number that popped in my head was four point six five. Yeah, I'm. Fuck man, I'm I'm leaning with you guys. I'm going to go four point seven five because
00:17:28
Speaker
It's nice to have a new iteration of a beer from Three Floyds. I love Three Floyds. And maybe it's a little biased. But I have to say, if this was any other brewery, I might knock it maybe a little bit. Because I'm like, fuck, man, this isn't a pale ale, but because a double pale ale. But because we know what Three Floyds does, this is just overall. It's true to their mouth. Because I'm just judging it as a tasty beer that I would want to get.
00:17:56
Speaker
Nobody's like, oh fuck, let's go with some double pale ale. No one's like, all right, what's your favorite style? Double pale ale. But as far as beers go, this is just a fucking tasty beer. Grabbing this, and if we were hopping on the Metra going someplace, and we grabbed this, and we had, say we're going to a beer under glass.
00:18:16
Speaker
And we're jumping on the, jumping on the Metra. And we had this and you and I can split this. Like, that's a good way to start like a trip. Like a place like you can, it's so good. It's such a tasty beer, but also I am partial to Citra hops. So I love the design of the can. I'm super happy that Three Floyds has taken the zombie brand and decided to turn it into something else instead of just zombie dust. Now there's zombie ice and I, I,
00:18:46
Speaker
I hope this works out for them because it'd be nice to see like, are there other zombie things much like how pipeworks does ninja and unicorn? You know what I mean? Like there's different unicorn beers and shit like that.
00:18:59
Speaker
I would love a whole series of different zombie beers that had different hops or different ways they did that were like double IPA, double pale ale, or if there's a different gumball head type thing. You know what I mean? It's really nice. It's a very fun beer. It's very good.
00:19:17
Speaker
I love it. I'm with you. I'm doing the 4.75. I would never, I don't want this every day, but it's like, I feel like I'm also getting that nostalgia factor. Like it's, it's reminding me of like when I was getting into crap here, it's cause we didn't really talk about it, but it's not hazy at all.
00:19:38
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it's a pumped up
00:20:01
Speaker
When I was checking out at Bottles and Cams, the guy was like, oh, you're checking out the zombie ice? He goes, have you had it? I said, no. He goes, it's surprising. He's like, the way it's smelt and after I poured it, he's like, I was expecting it to come out like being hazy. And he's like, but it's super clear.
00:20:21
Speaker
And there is like a juicy aroma to it. Yeah, it drinks like hop wise. It drinks like a hazy IPA to me like like a super like hopped hazy IPA. But there's it's definitely juicier than it is bitter, but it doesn't have that body doesn't have. Yes, it doesn't have like that. There's no lactose. There's no like anything in there like supplementing it. Like this is not a hazy IPA, but it is just a super, super well hopped.
00:20:50
Speaker
this might be the best description if everybody listened to what we just said between the three of us as far as like what we took away from it like multi juicy hoppy but it's still maintaining that like three floids like zombie dust type experience like this is this is great man this is really good this might be one of the you know what i'm gonna throw it up there i already threw up one uh multi for the year and i can't believe i'm doing it uh in march
00:21:20
Speaker
This one's going up on my Maltese recommendations. I'm pleasantly surprised. I wanted to not like it. Dan, you and I talked about it when we were waiting to record. They were like, oh, fuck, 8.5%. What the fuck's a double pale ale? God damn. And then we cracked it open. And then I don't think any of us expected it to be like this. Honestly, maybe want to hate it too.
00:21:47
Speaker
I don't know. So Tony, just so you know, I have a running note for you of what you mentioned on episodes as being up for the multi. Fantastic. Because I have it too. And this is number two. This is number two on my list. What's the first one? The first one is from Mars Brewing, the Punchke. Oh, I missed that one. So you have three space junk log boat.
00:22:13
Speaker
Oh, shit. That's under two. Oh, fuck. Yeah, two APAs. Well, an IPA, a double pale ale and the Mars brewing punchy, which is that the time this is out? I'm pretty sure that that Apple that episodes out the Apple. I haven't I haven't heard you guys talk about the episode like super sweet. No, I was fantastic. I was looking dude. It's so good. Mars one. So fucking good. The punch. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
00:22:38
Speaker
I was at Binnies. You'll hear it on the episode. I will listen. I will. The I was in Binnies the other day, and there was a Poonchke vodka. Yes. From a joint distillery. Joe from Percolator posted about that on Facebook. He was like, yeah, he was like, should I should I buy this? I'm like, yes, buy it and tell me how it is.
00:23:05
Speaker
I took a picture because we all want to try it. But yeah, the Mars, the Mars. What was it? The the chocolate custard punchy stout because it's a pistachio one and then a double chocolate one, which I said I was going to go back and get and I didn't. But the actual the camera like froze and it looked like you were holding up a lightsaber. Still can't really see. Really? Is it like frozen? There you go. There you go. Actually, that's better. Yeah.
00:23:34
Speaker
But yeah, the Mars Punchke chocolate custard beer was fantastic. Space dust is on there, and then this is on there too. So there's three beers. So thank you, Brandon, for clocking that for me. Of course. All right. So any last words on this? By the way, I just burped. I still have a full fucking pint.
00:23:52
Speaker
Oh, God, it's so good. It's so good. But I know that there's certain IPAs or certain beers that I have when I burp, and it's like those hops come back through the burp, that I'm like, oh, fuck, I really do like this beer, and I want to go back and have more of it. But I also know that I need to drink.
00:24:12
Speaker
So Brandon, I love you, buddy. Love you, man. Thank you so much for curating this and the other episode of the Irish beers. So that was fun. Of course. And Dan, hey, man. Thanks for showing up. I love you guys. Oh, shit. Dan fucking loves us. Man, we love you too, Dan. Dan, this is like two episodes. I don't know if they're in a row, but two episodes where, man, we didn't really show each other.
00:24:40
Speaker
Do you want to say anything shitty to me now so we can make sure we don't break that? I got nothing. I got nothing either. I'll be trying to. Ah, fuck. Ah, we'll figure out another time. All right, everybody. Thank you for listening. Keep liking, keep subscribing, keep sharing, keep... I don't know, man. Just fucking keep doing stuff that helps us keep doing this. All right, see
Listener Engagement with Joe
00:25:02
Speaker
you guys next week. Can I say one thing real quick? Oh, shit. Sorry. Joe, listener Joe.
00:25:08
Speaker
Joe, are you talking about Joe John? Are Joe? Yeah, Joe John. Yeah, Joe. He reached out to me, and I forgot to mention this, but he reached out to me about that Cruz Blanca beer.
00:25:18
Speaker
And then he reached out to me saying that he had tried the newer version, which was like, we had that, I can't remember what it was called right now, but it was like the raspberry ale. I thought it was a key lime pie one. We did. No, no, no. It was a cruise bunker I had when we were recording on zoom the last time. Oh yes. Yes. Oh yes. Like the raspberry. I mentioned him and he was like, Oh, like thanks for the shout out. And then he tried the new one, which was with coffee. And I just wanted to shout out Joe for like listening all the way to the end on some of these.
00:25:45
Speaker
I'm going to be honest, Joe is seriously our number one fan. We own my shirt, number one. Number two, we want to go and drink some beers. I bought it. Fantastic. Joe will drink some beers with you. At some point this year,
00:26:02
Speaker
We're going to have a whole episode where Joe is going to come by and be on an episode. We can't not have Joe on an episode at this point. Yeah. I agree. Because there's other people other than Joe listening, and we keep mentioning Joe. So Joe, at some point this year, and we're on year number, almost year two now, of us meeting up with you from your underclass. But Joe, we love you, man. And thank you, everybody, for listening. And we'll see you guys next week. Yeah. Bye.
00:26:33
Speaker
I was going to say that. You guys both suck. I wanted to insult somebody, so there was an insult. No, try one more time right now. You guys suck. No, I got nothing. Fuck. I love you guys. I dream of you in my sleep.
00:26:59
Speaker
This has been The Malting Hour. Be sure to follow us on all social media by searching The Malting Hour and at themaltinghour.com. You can also follow us individually on social media. Brandon can be found on Instagram as bmdub81, on Twitter, bdub81, and on Untapped as bdubdrinksbeer. Tony can be found on Instagram and Untapped under Ace of Hope Chicago. On Twitter, The Ace of Hope Chicago. Clark can be found as Clarkowski on all three.
00:27:27
Speaker
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