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"Head with your head" ACN Pod 141
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It's been a bit up and down so far. Some of us are more willing to see the positives than others. We review Boro and try and work out if Nodge and our new players are good or not. OTBC.
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Introduction & Episode Setup
00:00:21
Speaker
Welcome to the Long Come Knowledge Podcast, an inviting, irreverent, inquisitive instalment intent on expecting our inspiring yet infuriating introduction to the season. We'll intimate inaccurate insight and interpret the impressions of a team inclined to impress twice and implode twice.
00:00:35
Speaker
It's intriguing, it's irregular, it's inevitably illustrative of one thing, initial inconsistency. Claire and Punt are with me, so let's get after it.
Team Performance Analysis: Sloppiness & High Press
00:00:45
Speaker
Claire, tell me what went wrong on Saturday, please. Sloppiness and... Dilly-dallying on the ball is what went wrong on Saturday. I think actually the first half was very good, aside from the crazy five minutes at the end.
00:01:00
Speaker
I think two good teams. Borough were, I think, solid and impressive. And I think they're going to be up their top six this season if they carry on like this. So I think, you know, it was pretty even, but we had the better chances. And then we just...
00:01:16
Speaker
Well, I've seen things saying we gave them the goals. I don't think that's strictly true. I think they were very good at the press, high press, and that meant that they turned it over and they scored from that. So, yeah, but we were too sloppy, basically.
00:01:30
Speaker
Yeah, I think on the on the goals in particular, I i was surprised at how much they were letting us play. And the press didn't seem to be particularly effective for them in the first 25, sort of 30 minutes when we had a really, i mean, probably from 10-ish minutes to 35-ish minutes now to the goal, basically. We had a really, really purple patch and it looked like there was only one team going to score.
00:01:53
Speaker
because they only seem to be getting the ball when we, you know, made a mistake.
Game Dynamics: Turnovers & Defensive Lapses
00:01:59
Speaker
um And they didn't seem to be able to hold onto it and progress up the field as well as we'd seem to be able to. And our chance creation was really good, not clear cut chances, but, you know, we had opportunities for Sarge to head head himself a hat trick and, you know, Diallo putting it over from eight yards out, you know tight but ti angle. Yeah.
00:02:16
Speaker
So actually it seemed to be the the very the two times that they really, really went for the press were the two times they turned the ball over. punt ah i was I actually thought that they only needed to get out of third gear twice and that was enough for the game.
00:02:32
Speaker
I thought they were good first 10. I thought Borough were definitely the better team for the first 10. They forced a couple of errors out of us then. But actually their goal came out of nowhere. You're quite right. I thought we'd really started to assert ourselves. We'd...
00:02:46
Speaker
We kind of worked out tactically, which I think was really pleasing. don't know we'd we'd almost but't if we were playing higher up the pitch or whether we just got hold of the ball a bit better and and you know our positional sense was better. on I couldn't really tell.
00:03:00
Speaker
But it felt like we were asserting our quality on the ball and that we'd started to put little moves together. And then it's just a brain fart, isn't it? you know kind of Ultimately. and And that, for me, was very reminiscent of last season where we do a lot of that and then we'd have that moment and then we would completely implode. And we did implode from whenever Burruss scored, I'm guessing it was her 35th, 40th minute, whenever it was, um to pretty much you know kind of and until we made some subs in the second half.
00:03:34
Speaker
um It just felt very chaotic.
Team Identity & Strategy Under Liam Manning
00:03:38
Speaker
um It was almost like the muscle memory was kicking in of last season. that you know got all the And the worry for me was all the things that went wrong last season were prevalent.
00:03:48
Speaker
but actually it didn't have the characteristics of stuff that went right last season, you know, in terms of like, you know that attacking swagger that maybe we talked about in the last call. But that crazy because it's almost an entirely different team. So yeah there can't be any muscle memory.
00:04:01
Speaker
That's the thing that's so frustrating about that. I that was the conversation at half time um going down to the concourse was overhearing multiple people say almost the same phrase, which is they're different players. Why they behaving the same way? Yeah.
00:04:16
Speaker
It's absolutely mad. And I think for me, Norwich... We look like a team with loads of new players, but we also look like a team that is still doesn't really know what we are.
00:04:30
Speaker
And we don't haven't got that kind of clear identity that is is running through the football club. And maybe that is because Liam Manning is a bit more of a pragmatist and and you know he wants us to be solid you know kind of first. But look, we just weren't solid. you know kind of where we that that was the real concern the we All right, and I absolutely accept. No, I don't
Impact of Passing Accuracy on Game Outcome
00:04:50
Speaker
agree. I don't agree. We were until we gave it away.
00:04:53
Speaker
Yes, but then we did give it away. But actually before that, they were in. Kovacevic should give them a chance within, what, 90 seconds or two minutes or whatever. But that's us. It's all self-inflicted. but yeah yeah Exactly. but you know But ultimately, most goals on a football pitch come from mistakes.
00:05:09
Speaker
ryan it's a And so I think Claire making the point around Borough manoeuvring us in a way to make those mistakes is is absolutely valid. But we've just got to be better in some of those moments. It was just really poor decision making.
00:05:22
Speaker
You look at the stats, we had 566 passes to their 393 and ninety three in our pass accuracy was 86%. Claire, hang on, hang on. and We know you're new to this podcast. We don't come with stats. No, I know. I just saw them. But it fascinated me because it that sounded pretty decent. We had a lot of passing and was pretty accurate. So that means that the ones that weren't accurate were the ones that cost us the game. I completely agree. Which is mental.
00:05:49
Speaker
I think that they... I actually have a different... I actually think that my gut feel on looking at the highlights and performances from Borough so far, I actually think i they they it it played out exactly as I thought. they that I don't think they were all that. I really don't.
00:06:06
Speaker
and I was nowhere near as impressed with them as I was second half Millwall. Second half Millwall looked like, you know, a... humming machine. Borough, I know they were it was an interesting tactical decision, if it was a decision, to not go for the jugular at 2-0 against 10 men.
00:06:22
Speaker
They were awful with the ball. They were so wasteful when they had extra space and they weren't able to create that many opportunities. Vlad made a brilliant save. but they weren't able to create lots and lots of clear cut opportunities when they, in theory, they should have had extra space on the part. And, you know, it's the centre midfield is one of our ball playing people. So therefore we shouldn't have been as good at keeping the ball and that
Defensive Mistakes & Substitutions
00:06:44
Speaker
we're not.
00:06:44
Speaker
and And so I, I don't know. I, I'm not, Top eight out 10, yeah, very likely. You've got some really good players and they've made some some good signings. That's one of the issues against... um Whilst I'm very cup half full from from Saturday's game, and one of the cases for the and prosecution is that Middlesbrough have turned over more players than we have.
00:07:08
Speaker
um but i i I don't think that they looked further ahead. don't loads of those were in their starting eleven by the play so't they i just I don't think they looked loads better.
00:07:19
Speaker
Claire, obviously, with the stats there pointing out, it that those stats, that's what it felt like to me. The eye test was... there was There was no way they were two goals better than us at half-time. And to be honest, I don't think they could... I don't think any... of Before the first goal went in, none of their fans would have... and All of their fans would have taken going in level because we had dominated possession and we had created way better chances. And the difference is... pun and like and that This is where... It's to do with being solid at the back.
00:07:47
Speaker
Solid at the back to me is you can't you can't create lots of chances against us. I think you can be solid at the back and still make brain farts. that So effectively, when Borough tried to create goals from them starting in their own half,
00:08:04
Speaker
we've seemed relatively comfortable and played pretty well. And then, but when, you know, when all of a sudden, like Mirko is, you know, having a pee with his pants on 30 yards from goal and all of a sudden they've got two players clear and our right back's out of position. So there's there's there's someone on the edge of the box or and Cordova makes the wrong decision, blah, blah, blah.
00:08:23
Speaker
All of a sudden that's just like really, really in the moment decision-making. Like that
New Player Adjustments & League Challenges
00:08:28
Speaker
that goal to me sum summed up the fact that, we bar yeah Yes, OK, they sort of were pressing high, but that's so avoidable from realising, actually, I haven't got as much time on the ball.
00:08:41
Speaker
And I think, Claire, you mentioned something on WhatsApp that i wanted to to to bring up, that maybe a few of the new boys just, and this is a case with Mirko, maybe in this specific goal, they're just expecting a bit more time on the ball than they've got. Yeah, absolutely. i think they've come from leagues that they have got more time on the ball and and welcome to the championship. you know You don't have that time on the ball.
00:09:01
Speaker
um And I think they'll get they'll get there. but obviously they're still, they're learning literally on the job right now. So there's going to be mistakes. And I keep reminding myself that I said, we're going to have a terrible August and then things will gradually start to get better after the first international break. So I'll keep repeating that mantra to myself. I'm not panicking.
00:09:20
Speaker
I'm not panicking at the moment. I think they will get used to it. um But yeah, you know, Topic has only been in the country 20 days, you know. I think he generally had...
00:09:33
Speaker
yeah I think he generally had a really good game. Yeah, he did. And I felt sorry for him that that goal was kind of his fault. so yeah and And they capitalised on it. They capitalised on it. And you see other opportunities where and I was watching matches the day earlier today and um and Man City, for example, had a turnover in the in the box yeah and against Tottenham and just made the wrong pass or didn't quite you know they misunderstood.
00:09:56
Speaker
And that's that that's the other thing. ah Just picking up on your ah you saying you're predicting a terrible August. Yeah. I don't think we're having one. that there We have not been outplayed or played off the pick. Terrible may be an exaggeration. Difficult. I genuinely think they're so there were so many times on Saturday when probably...
00:10:18
Speaker
Three at least in the first half where Sargent decided to go left and Sinat's put it right or Emi put it left and he'd just turned his head and gone the other way. And that's just that's just bad luck. They just looked up at the wrong time.
00:10:29
Speaker
That was two or three times and they were all relatively close to the edge of the box when Sarge could be played in. um So you add that to the four actual chances we created, um of which I think one of the headers he really should have done better with and Diallo definitely should have done better or maybe even cut it back.
Standout Player Performances
00:10:45
Speaker
i'm So, you know, I think there was there's loads loads of positives. And i yeah, going back to Topic, I thought he looked sharper, he looked fitter, he looked like he was starting to get up to to the speed of the game.
00:10:55
Speaker
Some of his kind of turns and pivots to to get us moving forward were... were the sorts of things we saw on the highlight reel when we signed him, right? So i'm I'm warming to him. and Punt, we already you touched on it last week, but Harry Darling again, he looked what a player he looks.
00:11:12
Speaker
i mean, again, ah and a really comfortable performance. He had nothing nothing he could have done with the goals. he His man didn't score. You know, he was he was tight. And he also... He stopped certain goal as well, like in front of the Barkley. That tackle was ridiculous. That was brilliant. Who did bail out?
00:11:29
Speaker
He had absolutely no right. That was a game where he'd given the ball away. But I think it... Well, I think there was a give that yeah there was a concession in terms of, you know, kind of ball turnover. But actually, it happened... I thought it happened at least three times where a player just makes ah a fairly innocuous run across, you know, kind of one of our defenders and they're slotted through like kind of really easily. And it almost exposed the frailties with ah with our back three, i think. And I know we'll onto that.
00:11:57
Speaker
But positionally, we We don't really seem like we've grasped that yet. And I think that is a problem, you know, kind of whether we're transitioning from a back five to a a three, whether it's yeah's a four sometimes as well, isn't it? You know, kind of in terms of the the way in which were we're playing in and out of possession.
00:12:16
Speaker
think they're finding it really difficult at the minute. quite like the fact that Manning seems wedded to it, so he's going to keep at it and he's going to make sure that they do get it. um I just don't quite know whether we've got the right personnel on the pitch to do it. And Darling, as you say, is bailing some of them out.
00:12:32
Speaker
He's definitely bailing Medic out from time to time because Medic isn't... I did think he was better again, though. did think he was slightly better again. I thought he was, but I think there's spaces between... there spaces between Him and Stacey, I know you know look it's going to be a different backline, isn't it? Because Stacey, I guess, will probably have a couple of weeks out with a concussion.
00:12:53
Speaker
um But
Debate: Back Five vs. Back Four?
00:12:55
Speaker
it's... ah you know I said it before, I guess where I'm at with it is Manning kind of came in with a mantra of let's make a solid first and let's build on it.
00:13:04
Speaker
yeah We haven't really got the sal solidity. And I'll take your point about, you know, look, actually you can defend space well and you can look solid like that. But I just don't accept the, but you can still make brain farts because we made so many on Saturday. Like if you've made two or three. Two in the first half, two in the first 15 minutes.
00:13:21
Speaker
and And, you know, let let's let's be fair, Borough could quite easily, because of our own ineptitude, had four or five goals. um but And we could have had four or five goals if we'd have had our shooting heads on, and which which brought us to the debate on WhatsApp about whether or not, you do you shoot with your head? or anyway your head that your head Your head with your head. Your head with your head, definitely.
00:13:41
Speaker
But I think, you know, look looking at the um top picture you guys taking out as a positive, I thought he was terrific for large swathes of that game. and And I think you ally him with, you know, kind of maybe his maybe his preferred midfield partner.
00:13:55
Speaker
um And it could start to look really positive in the engine room because he... you know he is adjusting game by game and he is getting up to the pace of the championship. And all right, look, he was caught in possession a couple of times.
00:14:07
Speaker
But actually, he was a lot more forward thinking, you know, kind of in young particular moments than I thought that we'd maybe get out of him as a six. You know, yeah he'd it'd almost been billed as this tough tackling, you know, Makaleli, you know, kind of almost role, but he's a bit more dynamic than that. yeah So that that is really exciting. Yeah.
00:14:26
Speaker
And I think, you know, I thought his shot that he kind of scuffed with his left foot was in when it when it left it. and He just just kind of curled away at the end. So, um yeah, I think he's, for me, him and Darling are the two that really excited me.
00:14:40
Speaker
Disappointing with Wright's start to the season. um i mean, I think Mirko being a bit more with it on Saturday against Borough highlighted how little Wright was doing and how little positive progression and and positive passes.
00:14:58
Speaker
he's he's He's very side to side he's towards the end of last season, as as we were starting to play more and more dead rubbers, he did seem to be starting to to feel more comfortable, which is fair enough. you know, his first run in the team in the championship for us.
00:15:14
Speaker
Still a very young player. But I don't know, he he see feels to me like he's taken a bit of a step back in terms of, ah you know, playing playing balls that are you wouldn't expect him to play or weren't just the the first.
00:15:26
Speaker
I mean, my old dad, when he used to go, and It used to be a real bugbear of him, of his, if if he would pick up during a game that one of our players was just finding the most immediately available Norwich shirt, effectively never passed to anyone who wasn't the person closest to him.
00:15:43
Speaker
Now you can argue that possession football and stuff, and you know, this is going back a lot dad's time was before possession football was, you know, like it is today. But I do think his point stands with regards to right that, you know,
00:15:56
Speaker
very rarely is Wright doing anything other than, oh, he's available, let's stick it five yards to him. Is that slightly because he was last year asked to play that role more because we didn't have... a defensive midfielder like we have now.
00:16:09
Speaker
So I guess partly it's adjusting to a slightly different role in the team. So let's go to that defensive shape then. So we had a question on Twata around it.
00:16:22
Speaker
ah Do you have the chap's name there? personally I do. It is Hofster84. Super. The 84th of the Hofstra clan. and Effectively, I wanted i wanted to to talk about this, the the three versus five thing.
00:16:37
Speaker
There was a guy next to me and and um ah I try not to talk about it too much because he he came once last year, last season, um and he is the most negative person.
00:16:51
Speaker
unpleasant person to sit next to. Didn't swear, wasn't, you know um like and you know, didn't do anything that you could complain to a steward about other than just being, his cup is so half full, like his his liquid is like below the equator. Like it's just, it's untrue.
00:17:07
Speaker
And so he was just moaning the entire game about the fact that Manning has had all pre-season with these players and he still hasn't managed to get this back five work. Why have you bought Dialla ah and if you're then going to play him and as ah as a wingback when he's clearly winger.
00:17:25
Speaker
and Cordoba's not good enough to play you know out wide, except like just nonstop. So taking away from... i did actually ask... I eventually relented and turned to him after about 75 minutes and said, have you ever considered motivational speaking?
00:17:39
Speaker
And he looked a bit confused. But honestly, it was, it was just, it was horrendous. So Ruben, my little one recognized him from last season. And so we, we often switch places left and right and between our seats.
Tactical Decisions & Preseason Insights
00:17:50
Speaker
And he, so he made a point of like nodding to me and he sat the other side that he didn't have to sit next to me or anyway, going back to going back to the three, I think, you know, I'm not having him in my ear. He thinks, but he has to have me in his ear. So god bless him.
00:18:06
Speaker
It's an awful football experience for him. So Claire, what say you? Do you think good for Manning for sticking to your guns and eventually he'll get there? Or do you think, oh my God, just play a back four lad?
00:18:17
Speaker
The latter, I think. and I don't like the back five at all. In fact, it's a fluid back five as it is. I had a discussion with my sister in the first half. She was convinced we were playing a back four and that Cordoba was playing as a left back. And i was like, no no no, no, no, that's not the case.
00:18:34
Speaker
but I just don't like it. i think I think Jacob getting sent off, Kenny coming on and then Schlapp, although you know he has his issues as well, but we we reverted to a ah normal back four then. And even with 10 men, it just looks so much better, so much better.
00:18:52
Speaker
yeah ah think Diallo, he's not, he's not, got a defensive mind, although he did do very well in the, what was it, the Watford game that he tracked back? Pompey game, he came back 60 yards, yeah.
00:19:06
Speaker
But we shouldn't be asking him to do that. We shouldn't be asking him to do that. And I think having the three central defenders and then they get dragged out and everyone's out of position when we get turned over and then there's too much space. so I just don't like it.
00:19:19
Speaker
I don't like it at all. The too much space thing, it looks in the first half in particular, um it was a bit easier to see because of they were were're in a Barclay and they're coming towards us up Barclay.
00:19:30
Speaker
and And you can just see as we, as they are, when they had the possession in that first 10 minutes, when they, when it was far more even, maybe they just shaded it and It looked like we hadn't done our research on how they were going to set up because there was they had so much space just inside where our kind of wing backs were, you know, and and so it was it was a it was a mismatch.
00:19:53
Speaker
And I get that you you there's an element of you plan for the way you're going to win versus you just plan for how to stop the opposition. Totally respect that. and However, it just seemed particularly prevalent in that first 10 minutes that they just constantly had a ball, like ah a little ball inside from from the wing to the inside.
00:20:10
Speaker
And midfield was always on because we that's where we had our gaps. And like you say, there was it was a funny old it was a funny old end of the game. They they seemed to have really decided it was already won.
00:20:21
Speaker
So they'd really slowed down. We obviously got the goal that made it a bit more interesting. but But like you say, soon as soon as we seem to and have you Fisher, who I thought played really well when came on and looked really solid, once Fisher was there in right back and pretty much just stayed at right back, yeah we just had, we'd like you say, when there was then a change of possession, there wasn't suddenly three acres for someone to just run into off the back of one ball.
00:20:51
Speaker
and then And then you're just everyone sliding sideways, which it felt to me like that was the the archetypal goal that we conceded, like Punt, you said, playing a ball across the defender, running off a defender.
00:21:03
Speaker
It was Duffy, let's have it right, nearly every every time last season. one hundred percent And basically, it's a ball round is ball down to the right-hand side of Maynich, inside Stacey or Fisher, whoever's there. and then we But basically, because we've lost the ball when we're in a kind of diagonal across the pitch because we've been expansive and and and fluid...
00:21:20
Speaker
we've got a big hole and everyone's rushing back, which means they're rushing so much to come over, over to close it down that there's someone stood on the, on the D going, hello, I'll have a tap in. Thank you very much. So punt, what are you saying? and So Claire has is decreed we're going to four.
00:21:32
Speaker
What say you three, five, four, six, one, I think... Just Harry Darling on his own. so If we were looking to fix it, right? If we were looking to fix it next game and actually what what would the players look most comfortable in, that then you move to a four, don't you? like That's really simple. like It's really easy. You move to a four.
00:21:52
Speaker
But as I said earlier in the pod, I quite like the fact that Manning is wedded to something that he believes in that has worked for him at Bristol City. But what I think... he's going to have to figure out fairly quickly is that maybe the two centre-backs that he's, sorry, of the three centre-backs that he's playing there at the moment aren't going to be the three that that we end up with.
00:22:14
Speaker
And but i don't, look, Medici could come on, you know, this is his first season in England. I think he could get better and better, but his lack of pace worries me.
00:22:25
Speaker
I actually think... Kenny might be an answer here if we're going to persist with it. And actually, Kenny is the left side. I wish this was a video podcast. Mike, Claire, your face. Poor Claire's face.
00:22:37
Speaker
Poor Claire's face. Claire's face turned inside out. But i don't but yeah but then i wouldn't be I wouldn't be playing Kenny as a starting centre midfielder. So actually, moronic i would I would have Topic and Nunez, provided Nunez stays after um you know the deadline day.
00:22:53
Speaker
um as our starting in central midfielders. And then I think Kenny as a left side, because he is good with the ball, like, you know, in terms of, you know, he's better than probably any of our defenders at passing.
00:23:04
Speaker
um You know, he's definitely competent in that regard. He's probably better at passing than any of our defenders. i think we're quite well I think we can all agree that he's a lot better. There's not there's no probably. There are none of our defenders can pass the ball anywhere near as well as Kenny.
00:23:19
Speaker
Well, you know, look we haven't we haven't seen Medic for a full season yet. he he could He could surprise us with Diags. You kind of you never know. that like Yes, yeah all right, that's That's fair. um i get you know Look, if I'm looking at what is our strongest XI, if we're going to play three at the back, I think Kenny probably goes in there at left centre back.
00:23:36
Speaker
I really do. And then I think potentially, to Claire's point around wasting Diallo on the left, Hopefully, then Schlupp actually starts to look like a championship footballer and he gets up to the pace of the league again because he hasn't had much of a pre-season.
00:23:51
Speaker
And then you can get Diallo as part of that front three, which is exactly where you'd want him if you are playing three at the back. Would I do it? Probably not. Do I like the fact that Manning continues to persist with it and believes in a system?
00:24:05
Speaker
Yeah, fair play, mate. And let's see how that ends up. Yeah. There is definitely work to do, though, in terms of transition. and and And it's interesting, Claire, you saying about your sister and thinking that that we were playing like a four because Cordoba's virtually playing left back. He's intentionally playing wider, isn't he? Because he just wants to kind of yeah fill that space.
00:24:24
Speaker
Whereas Medic and Stacey, there isn't that instruction there because I think that they kind of think, well, Stacey's got the legs to get back and Stacey's almost got more of a defensive mindset. Yeah. But actually, that's the side that it's come down more and more. It's where Stacey and Medich haven't been communicating properly. So, um yeah, there's loads to work out.
00:24:42
Speaker
And as I say, simple fix. You move to a four. It probably gets better really quickly. Is that where Manning wants us to be in three months' time? don't know. Maybe not. The issue for me is he only played three at the back like a couple of times in preseason. So if this was something that he was trying to bed in,
00:24:57
Speaker
He didn't give it the best of goes. We played four at the back quite a lot in pre-season. so um But let's see. look we need to give I think we need to give it a chance and see where it lands. Yeah, there's a there's I agree with you that I like a principled manager. And I like knowing where you stand with a manager.
00:25:13
Speaker
but We've always talked for the last three or four years about yeah if there's a plan, we'll give you, if you, if you, if you talk to us and if it's clear what you're trying to do, we will always give you more of a benefit of the doubt than if it's, if you flip flop and there seem, if you seem to be picking names out of a hat and you, know you know, you never know, like it is that that was the Dean Smith thing, right? was just like, ge honestly, it was like, you just and shuffled the balls and and saw who would plop out like a lot lotto machine.
00:25:37
Speaker
um But with, there is a risk that he becomes, oh, that was another thing that Eeyore said yesterday. He he said, he shouted, I bet anyone here a million pounds that Manning won't be in charge at the end of the season. Oh, God.
00:25:54
Speaker
yeah ah Yeah, honestly. there is There is a risk, though, that with that whole principled thing, that if he sticks with it when quite clearly is hurting us when we give the ball away. Because we are going to give the ball away if we're saying to our goalie, we want you to do play like that. If we're saying to our centre-backs and to Kenny, if he's left centre-back, or Cordoba, he's left centre-back, we want you to play like that.
00:26:17
Speaker
We are increasing our chances of of those things happening. They will happen more than if we don't play that way. Fine. and So ah with that in mind, we then have he has got to find a way to make that less painful and less impactful and and have a better kind of safety net of if X loses the ball when we're in this shape, here's how we make sure we cover the space and here's how we sort it whatever.
00:26:43
Speaker
Because otherwise it will become a millstone around his neck. It's just, like oh yeah, no, he's that he's the stubborn guy. Like just look what he does with his back three, back five kind thing. So those sort that it's already been talked about three league games in.
00:26:54
Speaker
so And it's a hybrid though. This is the thing. It isn't just three at the back all the time. It it does become a four at times. not you know it's Most of the time it's a three or a five. But ah players, look, this is this seems to be quite an intricate, complicated system.
00:27:09
Speaker
And you know so I think it is something that is is going to take you know kind of a few more games before we start to see whether it's going to work or not. and Do you think that Jack being injured or concussion for a couple of games will maybe force a change though because yeah that's fair well he's got he's got Fisher and he's got Krasenny and he's got he's got fullback that's not going to happen you you accept that's not going to happen right yeah so then you kind of almost I don't know with um I actually like I can 100% see when
00:27:43
Speaker
when um and hopefully it's when Nunez is both returns to fitness and is still an Irish player, i'm whether that's a year extension or um just because he's going to play out his season with us.
00:27:57
Speaker
um i can eat I can definitely see Cordova coming out of the team and... um and that being a way of getting Kenny and Nunez in the team.
Leadership Impact on Team Morale
00:28:08
Speaker
It's a bit more leadership as well, isn't it? i think you know like we good we we we we We were so much better when Kenny came on. it's not like but Not necessarily compared to that kind of 20-minute spell, but I thought we were actually fine.
00:28:23
Speaker
There was an improvement when he came on, but then it was a fairly low bar. From 1-0 until Kenny, we actually looked like we had a bit of gumption and we looked like we were losing um My criticism would be that he didn't make the right changes. Kviska didn't come on and you anywhere near early enough.
00:28:40
Speaker
and That lad does not ah doesn't feel like he's been given a real shot yet. I wonder if he'll start tomorrow. i know he was planning on starting him against Watford, wasn't he And then he was poorly.
00:28:51
Speaker
So I wonder if tomorrow, not tomorrow night, we're on Sunday. on Is it Tuesday? Tuesday night. I wonder if he gives him the start. Yeah. Because Josh surely doesn't need the the the minutes anymore, right? Is Sernac through the middle, I reckon, Kvisko and maybe on the on the right? I think that's what he might look at. Sernac is one of those where I think if he doesn't pull up any trees against Saints, you're saying about wanting Diallo up as one of those three, it could be Sernac is on the bench and Diallo is up alongside Sarge with Emi on the right. or
00:29:24
Speaker
ah Because Sernac is... It's huffed and puffed, but the the step on that we hoped we would see, we certainly haven't seen yet. So Sernach, just let me say very quickly. So the Pink... I just watched the Pinkan pod today and the Pinkan, or Pad in particular, absolutely pans Sernach in it, like absolutely pans him.
00:29:45
Speaker
And Pad actually did that twice last season and both times Sernach... I mean, obviously he doesn't watch the Pinkan podcast, but both times... That's a big assumption. Well...
00:29:57
Speaker
Yeah. um But both times, i think he scored in the next game or just started to look really, really good. So, look, if that's any kind of omen, Sernac is going to get a hat-trick on Tuesday night and all will be well. is it like pat Pad is a really level-headed human. and He really went for him. like I was really surprised.
00:30:15
Speaker
I've got be honest. that I'm... i would not i would not have any I would not have any issues after the way he started the season if he just basically says, well, we've got to change something. Southampton's an opportunity to change try some different things. Let's have Diallo to the left, only for an hour because we'd need him full of beans for Saturday. But let's have Diallo for an hour um alongside...
00:30:35
Speaker
um ah well, maybe, yeah, put Kisgaden up as like, oh, it's a nine, false nine kind of hybrid or whatever because we we can't risk Sarge getting injured because he's the only one he scores, well like 99% of goals now. Who are you going for on the right then if you play a front three? So you've got
00:30:53
Speaker
Well, I prefer... Diallo, Chris Gordham. Maybe Emi. Because I feel like Emi needs to play into some form. he He was really poor first off. Yeah, he was really poor. He was really... Well, I think the whole... I don't think he was poor full stop. and I think he played very well. But I think he's... I saw someone on the social saying his legs are gone. I don't agree at all. but he didn't He didn't seem out of position through tiredness. He didn't seem... He wasn't missing opportunities through lack of sharpness.
00:31:18
Speaker
He was one of the examples of where if Sarge doesn't turn and run just as Marcondes looks down, that that's a nice through ball instead of a miscommunication. and So I can see that working. There's some balance there. i mean, he has played, obviously, Hoff played Marcondes as a false nine before. So maybe you play him as a false nine and you have Chris Karpel over on the on the wing. But, you know, if he gives Sienaac a chance through the middle,
00:31:43
Speaker
and CNS bangs in a goal. All CNS has really proven is, yeah, I'm better in here. I can't, you know, you're playing me out of position. i think i think it I think we've got to give him a chance in the middle on on Tuesday. yeah He's not playing in his favourite position. Yeah, exactly that.
00:31:58
Speaker
I'd like to see that. And then I think the same, but replace Sonapsh with Sargent in the league game. um i think I think Chris Garden has, every time he's come on, he's impressed. I'd I don't know why he hasn't been given more time. Genuinely not sure what's going on there.
00:32:16
Speaker
He's supposed to be our marquee signing. I'm not sure what's going on, but i I looked at him thought, I hope you're not getting annoyed at this and you know because he should he should be on the pitch.
Midfield Composition Challenges
00:32:26
Speaker
And Oscar came on before him, didn't he? yeah Yeah, exactly. of was like, that's weird. He hasn't pulled any trees this season. I don't really get... I mean, I love Emi. I think he's you know he's a great great addition to the team last year, but Him and Cern actually neither did enough on Saturday and stayed on for too long. And I just think, yeah, Mateus should be given his chance definitely on Tuesday and next Saturday.
00:32:52
Speaker
So just one other thing i wanted to cover in terms of best is is the best midfield that we think that we actually have at the club if everyone was fit and and no one there's no outs. I don't think you can fit the players in the team that you need to and to to to be successful unless you stop playing five at the back.
00:33:13
Speaker
Because Nunez cannot put string together three, has never in his Norwich career strung together three performances in a row where he's bossed it.
00:33:24
Speaker
He quite often looks brilliant two games in a row. And likewise, you you i think the the leadership that Kenny has, and his ability to play those, those having him and Nunez both able to bring out, ah ah basically put ah a goal on a plate for a striker, you need to find a way of getting the both in the team.
00:33:44
Speaker
Wright has not done anything to suggest that he can get in front of either of those two at the moment. But we have seen Kenny and Nunez play together and they massively lack... someone like a top pitch like we look a little bit naked in front of the back four back five or back 20 with those two those two together don't work it's a gerard um who's the other one so could you pivot to a three five two quite quickly so you could keep it at three at the back but just have those three in the center of the park You've got a very, a very scodgy three and a three.
00:34:15
Speaker
Well, but Nunez is almost playing as a 10. Did Hoff play Nunez as one of the wide, he because he played 4-3-3 and Nunez was like one of the wide guys a couple of times, wasn't he?
00:34:26
Speaker
But in the in the second three, not the front three. In the middle three, i'm not the front three. yeah yeah So i like I really like Nunez as a 10. Yeah. and So, and but yeah, to your point, Claire, Topic is not a number four sitting in front of the back. You know, he he is he' a pivot. he is ah He is a six or an eight. Like he needs to be alongside Kenny with maybe Nunez in front.
00:34:49
Speaker
um And then you say to Diallo, you're fit enough to go up and down. And then Juracek, you need to be you need to earn your money and and and be an option. It's telling me. Do we play him on Tuesday? Well, this is it.
00:35:02
Speaker
said me, I've only just thought of him and you asked me who should play wide right. I said, well, you're a sec, obviously. But I mean, hopefully he gives him a start. But he's another one I just think. yeah Are we punishing him for not looking hungry enough in training or whatever? Do we just get him out there? Something's off there, isn't it? Some of the comments that have come out. like he's still There was something that Manning said about It's got to learn bits about the team and not his own ambitions or something. which Oh, really? hadn't seen those quotes. That's interesting. After the first game, I think.
00:35:34
Speaker
It was quite kind of interesting. He's got earn it, he said. yes do i like he is He can earn it a lot better if he's on the pitch setting Josh up. you know he can He can earn it by getting a ah song sung by all of Carrow Road because he's come on and changed the game or or he's started and and and been brilliant.
00:35:52
Speaker
We need a... We risk being like we were last season and when we had, it was, you know, Sainz, one-sided with width. So you're going to have Sienaรง who's basically playing like a bustling nine, but out wide.
00:36:06
Speaker
And then you've got, um you know, a kind of wide player cutting in scoring goals in Sainz. We risk being that again. I mean, Diallo looked fantastic on Saturday. mean, he looked like a phenomenally good sign-in, you know, really dangerous and and was...
00:36:19
Speaker
and within within a few minutes, and but whether or not that was coincidence or it was it was decided beforehand, he was taking two players time and time again. They were like, holy fuck, like one person can't handle him. like They were constantly having to double up on him, which we know obviously creates space, not when you're down to 10 men.
00:36:37
Speaker
and But, you know, we looked we looked like we were going to create something. There was a couple of times when his speed in the first 10 yards is on... Like, that's where the speed is. I mean, I know that apparently he's top speed. He's a fast in league. But it's his... There was a couple of times you thought, well, he's lost the ball. No, he hasn't. Like, he's knocked it that far ahead of him because he knows he's going to get there before the other He knew what he was doing. Yeah, he knew he'd get there. He looks at an absolute, absolute player.
00:37:07
Speaker
um He's a bum off seats player, isn't he? He's replaced Borja... um in that respect and that as soon as he gets the ball, everyone's kind of moves forward a little bit in their chairs. But do you see where I'm coming from, Claire, in that the risk is if we don't have someone to occupy the other side, it's just like, well, that's fine. We just put two people on him because we know the other side not going to create anything because it's Sirnaz.
00:37:29
Speaker
Do you see what I mean? And that's what happened with Borja, right? As soon as yeah yeah yeah yeah his scoring run sort of dwindled, it was because he would have two, three people waiting for him to cut inside and shoot and just go, well we know you're not going to pass, so we'll just huddle around you.
00:37:42
Speaker
So with that that's that's the thing. i mean, the the the plus side is Diallo at the moment isn't just shooting from everywhere. He is trying to put balls But then maybe if you put Chris Garden on the other side, I think he's capable of that as well, isn't he? By the look of such a... Did you see his attempted overhead? Yeah. yeah It's like, it's not the time or the place, but I love it. brilliant it though. Yeah, he plays football like he's six.
00:38:04
Speaker
yeah so He doesn't realise that he's smaller than the bigger boys. It doesn't matter. He's just turned up at the park with his big brother. And as far as he's concerned, he's going to put himself about a bit.
Player Transfers & Josh Sargent Speculation
00:38:16
Speaker
Okay. and Are there any other listeninger questions that that caught your eye punt that you wanted us to to have a little bang at? We shouldn't talk about it, but our friend Matthew McGregor um got in touch and he said, how many goals will Sargent score for Brentford this season? And will it be enough to keep them up?
00:38:34
Speaker
Not answering that question. No, i think I think they're going to go down. i don't think i don't think even Sargent can save them. um
00:38:44
Speaker
We can't sell him now, can we? We can't sell him now, surely. we well he was Not until January. ah he was He was seen by a friend of mine today. He was asked outright. and He said, I ain't going nowhere.
00:38:55
Speaker
So he wouldn't lie um because no one's ever changed their mind. Hang on. Well, Robert Fleck, when I asked him once at sign-in session an open day, told me to my face that he was staying.
00:39:06
Speaker
It's good that you got over it, though, moved on. I do think the club keep putting things out with... Sarge in andari in happy and happy. ah Would they be that cruel to us?
00:39:17
Speaker
ah It was the... His would be naive applause post-match was really separate to the rest of the team. Yeah, but think that's because he's the captain. He was dragging team around. Yeah, but they didn't follow him. They didn't follow him. They were almost like, oh, on, have your little moment. And I was like, oh, I don't know. No, he's not. he's It's not imminent. It's not imminent.
00:39:34
Speaker
and we will because of the No, there's no noise, is there? So I think he stays. but i was just and and And the thing is, it's such a it's such a pivotal... I mean, our but our boys have been really good. Our boys, our our you know the guys on the beat, Paddy and Conor, what have you, they have been so on it this this season in terms of when there's even a sniff of anything and when there's you know no circus.
00:39:55
Speaker
if If there is even an ink, they are too well connected. The club could not keep that secret. If there was an inkling that Josh is going... we will hear about it at least a couple of days before. It's not going to be, yeahs it's not going to be that he's going to go be doing a lap of honour and saying goodbye.
00:40:09
Speaker
And to your point, we've still got a week though, haven't we? Is it? No, it's eight yeah days. But this is it. I almost feel like eight days is, he's not the sort of player, where, oh, there's a bid at 10 o'clock and now he's racing in a car off.
00:40:23
Speaker
yeah he like He doesn't go on the day, I don't think, like that. And Norwich have to have a replacement lined up in order to sanction that. Napa says he has. um Yeah, but that's... Yeah, I don't know. There's so many moving parts. We haven't heard anything about who it is.
00:40:38
Speaker
i can't I can't... I think it's... We talked about this three times already this season. I don't... I can't... I will celebrate hard when he, if and when he is but he remains an Orange player, you know, in early September. We should have like New Year's Eve party at midnight, everyone. We should. It's our work.
00:41:04
Speaker
Sergeant extension Eve. that that Yeah. it um I mean, he is he's vital. Right. i mean, he I think we are. and Yeah, we we keep saying we're a top 16 with him in the team.
00:41:17
Speaker
And maybe we know fucking. that there's been so much positive There's been so much positive play. i already and I already prefer Manning's football to Hoff and it isn't even close. like we get the book The first three, four games of Manning's compared to the first three, four games of Hoff. Mate, what are you watching? now i don't think that's... What are you watching?
00:41:37
Speaker
We get the ball forward we were good at my home last year. We were really good under Hoth for the first half of the season, mate. I can't see where you're getting that from. i might see hell I've watched two defeats in two games having watched two defeats two years previously. It's not necessarily about the results. It's about how likely we look to create chances to score. Borgia was incredible. Hang on, we were top scorers in the league up until about April. How many chances would we be likely to create? What you on about?
00:42:06
Speaker
I prefer Manning to Hoff. I want to buy into Manning more. I like his football and what he's trying to do more than Hoff. I am not a side-to-side-to-side-to-side person. It took me a long time to come around to Farker because i didn't I didn't necessarily want that style of play to work.
00:42:22
Speaker
Possession with intent, right? Manning seems to be setting his team out. And it's happy although it's only like four games, including a cup game, I know I always bang on about it, but it's the repetitive patterns. We get into similar positions often enough for me to think that's not fluke because they happen to fall over or they happen to, you know, it just happened that the the space was there on the pitch. It's to do with the fact that we seem to be creating similar chances again.
00:42:48
Speaker
and they're seen and And I like to, i prefer the the purpose with which we seem to be playing under Manning. Now, super early days, And I would much rather have a a winger who's, you know, top joint top scorer or top scorer or whatever.
00:43:01
Speaker
I'm very happy for Sarge to be top scorer in the league. im but And and i'm not I'm not saying that nothing Hoff did as good. I'm not saying that I didn't enjoy winning so many games at home last year. I much would have preferred if we'd have taken the chances and been 4-0 up at halftime on Saturday, which we easily could have been. That game yeah could have easily been out of sight by halftime.
Coaching Philosophies: Past vs. Present
00:43:20
Speaker
right I don't know about easily and 4-0, but I don't think we created four clear-cut chances. Sarge had three headers. Not clear-cut. They're not clear-cut. I'd love to see the XG on that after this, mate.
00:43:31
Speaker
No chance. They're clear-cut. Eight to nine yards out. our best our best striker has got a header. That's a chance. You should hit the target. You should tell by his reaction as well. And one of them he knew. One of them he absolutely knew. But the other two, I'm like, they're not not high percentage chances. No, they were defended well as well. But yeah the point but But again, the point is the the very fact that we were able to create three chances that were so similar suggests that it's not like, oh, we've just stumbled across an opportunity to put the ball in. It's like, no, we are there are patterns of play that are getting us up from back to front much, much quicker, much quicker.
00:44:09
Speaker
in general, in open play, in general play, it's taking us less time. And there are far few, like even when we were winning. We created so many more chances in open play under Hoff.
00:44:20
Speaker
Like I'm not having that. You're not telling me that Manning's some kind of genius for chances from open play. I'm not saying he's genius. I haven't said genius. god We've scored a goal off Sargent's arse. We've scored a goal off a long punt. And um we've scored two set pieces. Like, I mean, ah like this hole from open play. yeah i'm talking about I'm talking about chance creation. I'm talking about how quickly he we go from back to front.
00:44:40
Speaker
even during the um Even during the times we were winning and unbeaten for a long period at home last season, do you have you put out of your mind, mainly because you didn't agree with it, so you might have done, have you put out of your mind how many grumbles there were at home about how...
00:44:59
Speaker
fucking slowly we would build up second half of the season i think that's a legitimate concern but the first half the season i don't i think we moved the ball with purpose and quite quickly and we created brilliant chances pre-christmas we yeah we did but a lot of it was boards are picking up the ball and running with it and and there was so much side to side to side to side to side going nowhere even in the in in the early part of the season now look who knows how this season is going to play out who knows whether or not manning's going to be a one season wonder and i'm you know, this guy's going to hold on to his million pounds that he bet us all.
00:45:29
Speaker
and But i i yeah um all I can go on is is just the gut feel of having watched a lot of Norwich City football games as a completely unintelligent moron. This unintelligent moron, I like the way in which we're headed. And and and I would rather this be successful than the pass you to death model.
00:45:47
Speaker
That's all I'm saying. Fair enough. Well, I'm glad you're having a lovely time. I'd have a lovelier time if we were winning. and I know. I know. We all would. But it is part of it's part of the the culture with which you think you're trying to win, I think is part of it. And I sort of feel like we've done the party, party, party thing a couple of times now.
00:46:07
Speaker
So let's try it. Football's changing, isn't it? were I think everyone's trying to move away from from that Man City situation. You've seen a lot of pundits coming out and say it, right? a forest You're seeing quite a few pundits now starting to say, is anyone else a bit bored with this?
00:46:23
Speaker
but Is anyone else bit fed up with I'll say this now. The Barcelona team that used to be the best team, I was bored to tears mostly watching Barcelona. I really did not see it at all.
00:46:36
Speaker
so like yeah I agree with you. Iniesta is probably my favourite player to have watched on TV. They were brilliant footballers. It was boring. It's like watching somebody play with a mouse slowly. yeah it's like ah It's like a consider like a constrictor. right it's just like i'm just you know We're going choke you by basically giving you so little of the ball and we're not necessarily going to do anything with it.
00:46:57
Speaker
yeah that's I don't want to win that way. and you yeah what was great about the Farker team is there was a little bit of balance there because like you had Emi so you yeah know Buendia might do a little moment of magic and like turn on a sixpence and Stieperman would an or Vrancic would play like a a bended ball for Pukki to run onto that could cut that could suddenly happen anyway but that's the thing with those teams right you have to have the magicians you have to have an Emi Buendia in that Barcelona team that you're talking about Claire you have to have a Lionel Messi you know kind of like that's
00:47:28
Speaker
You have to have those X-factor players. And i I really like watching that style of football and still do. But you have to have someone who's just going to make it, you know, kind of all change in in an instant and pick exactly the right moment to do that. And so you exert the control and then you do it. Whereas I think it just feels feels a little bit more...
00:47:48
Speaker
I don't, you know, back to front quite quickly and and almost like hopeful in what we're doing. But if we do it so many times, then, you know, we'll create a chance. And we we managed to, and actually Sernach played an unbelievable ball to Stacey for one chance.
00:48:02
Speaker
Yeah. It was almost, if we had a right wing back with a little bit more purpose and a little bit more attacking now, then I think we probably would have created those clear cut chances that you're talking about, Tom.
00:48:13
Speaker
Yeah. he was probably the weak link in terms of like as an attacking force. um So yeah, look, it could come and I hope it comes. And if we start playing, you know, style a style of football that we're all happy with, then look, this will become a quite boring podcast quite quickly because we'll all just be really positive all the time and it'll be great.
00:48:32
Speaker
So I hope that happens. But in the meantime, I'm, I think the jury's still massively out on Manning for We're two thirds positive by the sounds that. Yeah, it's good to find. So let's see if we get to three thirds. Yeah.
00:48:43
Speaker
Watch this space.
Along Come Norwich Quiz Segment
00:48:58
Speaker
It's time for the Along Come Norwich quiz. Last week, whilst a few people were thrilled to have the the quiz back, I did get a few people say, do you need to put a time limit. need These chunks take way too long. and they you know And as the person who edits the pod,
00:49:16
Speaker
You don't want to know how many times I had to copy and paste that bed music but because I just don't know. I'm still not finished. So um this week I'm going to in i'm going to set a 90 seconds on the clock, which I think is fair because it's still six players you've got to name, but there's just a little bit more. Oh, is that bloody format again? it the same again? It's not all 2010s, is it? Don't tell me that.
00:49:39
Speaker
I have adjusted the ears, the years, eras. I've adjusted the eras to suit Moany Punt because obviously he moaned. Claire's very similar age to me, right, I think. Older, I think. She's a lot younger than you. How dare you. ain't.
00:49:56
Speaker
I'm not. Just looks at me. I do, yeah. I bet I'm older. Yeah, she was like, yeah, I'm arguing with that. Yeah, I definitely do look young. I do look young. But I am old. It's bad lighting in here.
00:50:10
Speaker
ah Yeah, okay. I wonder why you sit right in front of a light. which is just like yeah I was born on the day that Rumours was released. yeah yeah Yeah, you definitely are older than me. i It came out the day I was born.
00:50:23
Speaker
So look that up and then you'll know when um was born how old I am. Right then, Claire Bear will go with you first and then we're going to come to Puntinho. So you're going to get ah these six. Now, and this is all right as per Wikipedia.
00:50:39
Speaker
and Do we still get steals? Do we still get the steals? are you saying, boy? Yeah, you still steals. And this is more likely to happen now because you're not gonna be able to mull it over. So that this brings the old ACM pass back in. You might want to pass. And if you pass, then obviously, and you do get through all six, we will then go back to the start again. So puntalicious, have your pen ready or your pencil or your crayon.
00:50:59
Speaker
um And ah Claire, your time starts now. A forward who joined Norwich from Manchester United in 1992 and whose next club was Leicester City.
00:51:15
Speaker
nine United, 1992. I don't think Mark Robbins, but that was... Correct. A forward who joined ac from AFC Bournemouth in 1993 and whose next club was Wimbledon.
00:51:31
Speaker
Efna Kuku. Correct. A midfielder who joined Norwich as a youth player and whose next club was Newcastle United.
00:51:42
Speaker
What year? Oh no. ah From 1986. From nineteen eighty s and what area? From 1986? 86, yeah. but Left for Newcastle in February 1994.
00:51:55
Speaker
Pass. Okay. and A centre-back who joined Norwich from Southend United in 1993. Spencer Pryor. Correct. A forward who joined Norwich from Manchester City and whose next club was
00:52:14
Speaker
20 seconds left.
00:52:18
Speaker
Ashley Ward? No, a forward who joined Norwich from Crew Alexander in 1994 and whose next club was Blackburn Rovers.
00:52:28
Speaker
Was that Ashley Ward? That is Ashley Ward, yeah. The left time is up. you did very well there. You got ah Mark Robbins, sort of. They said... Oh, yeah. if I loved that. I was like, she's not going to get this. She's not going to get this. I didn't think he went Leicester, that's why. that threw me off. I knew it was Man United, but I didn't think he went to Leicester.
00:52:50
Speaker
You got a co-cou immediately. Yeah. um You got didn't get the midfielder who went to Newcastle in February 1994. 149 league gaps and 24 goals.
00:53:01
Speaker
and You got Spencer Pryor. You didn't get the next one. Well, you tried Ashley Ward twice. I told you last week it's worth saying in the same name if it doesn't come around. So what's that? That's one, two, three, four.
00:53:15
Speaker
Four out six. Can you steal a couple of those, Puntalicious? Rule Fox and Mike Sheeran. Oh, yeah. He's done it. he's He's done it. So you need to make sure you stick Nick a couple of these back. um So, Panty Ronty, off we go. Your time starts.
00:53:32
Speaker
Now, a defender who joined Norwich Leeds United in 1994 and whose next club was Sheffield Wednesday. John Newsome. Correct. A defender who joined Norwich from Sheffield United in 1994.
00:53:47
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ah Next club doesn't exist on Wikipedia. Oh, that's helpful. Did he die? Or retire? Did you say 1994? 1994. Defender from Sheffield United.
00:54:05
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Pass. Don't know that one. A forward who joined Norwich from Chelsea in 1992 and whose next club was Blackburn Rovers. That one is wrong. Oh, right. This one that you've just asked me is wrong. Yeah, so I'll move on. A defender who joined Norwich from Tottenham Hotspur in 1992 and next club was West Ham United.
00:54:24
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From Tottenham in 92? Yeah, I think the 92 thing is because I asked ChatGPT to start the era from 1992. Ah, tremendous. And that's where it's gone wrong. Yeah. So just go from a defender from Tottenham Hotspur. I'll give you an extra 20 seconds.
00:54:38
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I mean, it's going to be Mark Bowen or Ian Culverhouse, I'd imagine. it is Mark Bowen. And then you've got a defender who was with Norwich in 1992 and whose next club was Millwall.
00:54:49
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82 league appearances, five goals. Hang on, he joined from where? He was with us in 1992. And his next club was? Millwall. Millwall?
00:55:00
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um I don't know, Colin Woodthorpe. No, a midfielder who joined Norwich from Oldham Athletic in 1993 and whose next club was Manchester City. Mike Milligan?
00:55:12
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Correct. Right, so... these questionst Those questions seemed flawed, Parsling. Yeah, two of them were a little bit flawed. It's a sloping pitch, it's equal for both teams. and no that No, that was not... Fuck off.
00:55:24
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Fuck off, was um because Sometimes I might... Alright, next time i will hear friendship questions. So I'm just trying to find this particular person. Yeah, okay. So if he came from Sheffield United, this defender, in 1994.
00:55:37
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And then after us, went to Wigan Athletic in 1997. Either of you. Hang on. Where did they come from? Sheffield United. And then they went to Wigan, 1994 to 1997.
00:55:51
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I don't know. Matt Jackson? No, it's Kyle Bradshaw. Oh, yeah. Sheffield United, of course. Yeah. The guy who I thought, I mistakenly thought, who was with us from the start of his career actually did a long stint at Bristol City before joining us.
00:56:09
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Rob Newman. Joined us in 19, not yet, it's Rob Newman, yeah. He played loads, I think, for Bristol City before us. More than us. He played 89 times more for them,
Predictions & Light-hearted Conclusion
00:56:19
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according to Wikipedia. So i tell you what, we'll call that a draw.
00:56:22
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And what we'll do is we um will we'll make sure that the IOC... and doubles checks and make make sure we're fine for next time. i'd I don't mind ah as long as there are appalling questions for both of us. like That's no issue. it just Claire got Mark Robinson and Fana
00:56:41
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Yeah. Well, to be fair, she really fucked Robbins up. and It's only... his Yeah. throw In my defence, I'd only just support started supporting Norwich then. So, you know, that was literally the first year that I supported You started so my knowledge walking in a Robbins wonderland.
00:56:59
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My knowledge free then is non-existent. i am i Can we do the 80s next time, Tom? No, do not do the 80s. I'm humble enough to accept that it's probably my fault that I didn't check all of those.
00:57:11
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Typical shambolic form. and I would say that i promise listeners to be better next time. Not going to make any such promise. so However, I'll endeavour to try. Let's have some guarantees for ah the upcoming game. So Southampton, punt, what is your guaranteed score, please?
00:57:29
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It's got to be 2-1 because that's been every single game so far, hasn't it? yes we We will win 2-1. Really? Crumbs. Yeah, we're going to win Andy Sernach is going to have an absolute blinder.
00:57:40
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Score both of them. Yeah, just because Pad. Cheers, Pad. And he even he'll even kiss the badge and then just point up to the press box. Claire,
00:57:51
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is it cup run? Yeah, I think we're going to win. I was going to say 2-1 as well, but I'll go 2-1. 3-1 and I ah think Fiskarden will score 2 and Diallo will score 1. Oh, that'd be nice. Yeah. quite Nice.
00:58:08
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Okay. And then he has to play them on Saturday. Yeah, i think we're going to win 4-0. And then on to Blackburn on Saturday. God. Todd Cantwell, captain. Yeah, captain, skipper, and who are currently sandwiched right next to us in the league.
00:58:23
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and So, what's your guaranteed... ah Claire, what's your guaranteed a goal scorer? and well my One of my good mates at work is a Blackburn fan and was bemoaning how terrible they were. And then they won at the weekend. So...
00:58:38
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um i We're good away. I think we will snatch a 1-0 win. It's going to be really messy. And of course, Josh is going to score.
00:58:49
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You can't really veer away from that, can you? Okay, love that. Punt? I'll go for Desmond. 2-2 and Kvist-Goren will grab a goal. Off the bench. I think he might still be on the bench on Saturday. And he shouldn't he shouldn't be, but he will be on the yeah with ah meant that A lot of that maybe depends on what happens on on Tuesday.
00:59:10
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yeah But we take on Saints and we continue, according to this podcast, our fantastic cup run. and Enjoy however you follow that along and enjoy the game at Blackburn. Enjoy that armband on and the blonde blocked.
00:59:23
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to ah And after the international break, we will see you for some pre-Coventry chat. and Maybe get Paddy on. buts Yeah, let's get Paddy on and get him to pad. Coventry and the Cowboys.
00:59:36
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Right then, mind, there you go
01:00:07
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What number did he use to What's first name? This is GPT. What does it look like? It's GPT again. So this one is where you've got... So this is Craig Bellamy, but he was a youth. what?
01:00:17
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He was a youth. Yeah, so the so he ended up at Cardiff. is's I reckon it's got stuck in some sort of loop. Why are you using GPT? Because this makes it so much faster. Oh, God. We need to check it.
01:00:30
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i I did last week. This week, I had to do quite a lot of, like, pretending to be a horse. and um To be fair, this was hastily arranged this week, wasn't it? If you want me to fact check them before we do the quiz, then I will help. You can fact check Punt's questions and he can fact check yours. And then when they're wrong, then won't have time to run. Anyway, typical shambolic form. and I would say that promise listeners to be better next time. I'm not going to make any such promise.
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