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"It's Already Over" ACN Pod 155
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Springett, Makama, there are lots of reasons to be joyful after a 5-1 thumping of Walsall. But someone has "Transfer Stuff" on his mind and decides to make it all about him. Oh Josh. What a let down.
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Opening & Celebrations
00:00:22
Speaker
Welcome to the Long Come Norwich podcast, where some silly stories are swirling around the soaring canaries who are still sizzling from a staggering 5-1 FA Cup success sparked by a sensational Murkama hat-trick and supplemented by Springett's first senior strike when supporters stop smiling as satisfaction somehow amid such sunny success and a solid scoreline succumb to sadness as a stupid, sulky striker is spoiling the scene.
Sargent Controversy Begins
00:00:46
Speaker
Claire, Sargent should never play for us again, right? Oh, I'm annoyed. i don't want to have to talk about this. I want to talk about our great win yesterday and just dispatching Walsall and how professional you were and how good Jove was. But we've got to talk about stupid Josh being stupid.
00:01:06
Speaker
We don't know what's going on. i don't i don't want to guess at the moment until we find out a bit more. I'm surprised Clement said what he said because he kind of must have known what the outcome of that was going to be in terms of the anger that it was going to create amongst all the fans. But I don't know. What's he doing? What is he doing?
00:01:28
Speaker
i totally get his and I totally get Clement going with, I'm not going to answer questions around not having Josh in the squad. and When clearly, that if if that's what's happened, that's what's happened. And so he's decided that you know the the approach is to give Sargent both barrels from the from the fans. But it it is you know we've seen this yeah recently with with players.
00:01:51
Speaker
There's a way to leave a football club. and especially a football club that has given you a really, really good living, really boosted your um kind of profile, and stuck with you through injuries and and never had anything but love from the fans, even though you know everyone was willing to believe that it was only because he was played out of position that he was you know so weak when he first started. you know Everyone stuck with him and was patient for him to get his chance in his role.
00:02:17
Speaker
yeah yeah Like I say, there's there are there are ways to a football club and this is it. This is not it. No. This is an example of of when you hope agent's been in his ear and he and he's listened to
Cultural Concerns at Norwich City
00:02:28
Speaker
that. What what say you, Punt?
00:02:31
Speaker
Oh, I'm just... ah I'm really quite sad about it while simultaneously being just a smidge angry with the boy. And I was very angry last night when and...
00:02:43
Speaker
heard and Bigfield just dropped it and clearly that was quite calculated. But i am I'm surprised it's been dropped when you could quite easily have swept that under the carpet and dealt with it internally. So it feels like that's a deliberate move.
00:03:02
Speaker
um And I wonder, ah just wonder whether this speaks to like more underlying cultural issues at the football club because Adam Eder pretty much had to down tools and agitate for a move. Abu Kamara had to down tools and agitate for a move.
00:03:23
Speaker
That bloke who went to Ipswich, you know kind of had to down tools and agitate for a move. And these are all under... the current sporting, oh, Jonathan Rowe as well. um These are all under a certain sporting director's watch.
00:03:38
Speaker
And does that now mean that when you get to a point where you feel like you've outgrown the football club, that the only available option to you is that, you know, you you will basically, toys will go out of prams.
00:03:51
Speaker
And, you know, it it will, it just, as Claire was saying, this doesn't feel like this is proportionate or just doesn't feel very Josh Sargent.
00:04:03
Speaker
I think that that's the bit for me. is and And so, yeah, look, there's probably going to be some more context come out. I would imagine, i mean, the fact that, Toronto's interest was essentially just leaked straight away after Clement dropped it. is Clearly Sargent's agent is is you know active and is probably trying to rustle up actual American, you know kind of mainland America um interest because I'd imagine that's where Sarge really wants to go rather than than Canada. But yeah, it just, something feels...
00:04:37
Speaker
quite wrong about it. But, you know, Sargent doesn't strike me as that kind of individual and he has never struck me as the kind of individual that would just go on strike get a move. you think he'd have done it if it was a league game? well No, I was about to say that.
00:04:52
Speaker
I don't think he would have done it. I think he he has more of a conscience than it was the fact that it was a League Two side. Look, all right, you know, it could have been a but banana skin, but by rights, we, you know, we should dispatch of them relatively easily. He's probably really aware that we're going to go strong, which we, you know, we did go strong in terms of lineup, which quite liked.
00:05:11
Speaker
um So, yeah, I don't think, I think he'd have been professional and enough to put it to one side for a league game because it feels to me like he's always had a respect for the football club and respect for the fans.
Speculations on Sargent's Future
00:05:22
Speaker
But you cannot do it. As you said, Tom, there's ways to leave a football club and this is not the way to do it. And it just feels ah just feels like it leaves such a bitter taste in my mouth. Yeah, it is it is rat-like behaviour. There's no getting around it.
00:05:40
Speaker
Yeah, the I was furious um last night with him and I remain furious with him now. I'm of the opinion that um if if it is only 13 million, and we'll take it. We've got a ready-made replacement. As far as I'm concerned, just get rid. It's dead to you.
00:05:58
Speaker
Yeah, well, yeah, big but because that but that's the thing. when you When you treat my football club that way, as far as I'm concerned, um you are dead to me. But this is the player that bashed the badge when the man we can't mention left. But we know this doesn't happen.
00:06:13
Speaker
we know that we know that We know it's nonsense. They they do it when when it suits them. and And there are sadly fewer and fewer examples. you know There are fewer Semenyos and there are more Josh Sargent. There are fewer and fewer class people like Sarah, which Connor mentioned in a Pink podcast.
00:06:30
Speaker
yeah Sarah was really classy and and wanted to make sure that he was playing and and and keeping fit and was due to play a game. But then the the the um you know the interest and the the move ended up meaning he didn't end up playing in that preseason game. But there is such a there's such a litany of these...
00:06:47
Speaker
kind of error-filled ways of leaving a football club. To your point, Punt, I do think that there has been a trendset, you know, that this is the way to get out of Norwich when you've actually got a contract. yeah and And we have given in every time. So it may be until Atanasios says to Napa, he can play with the under thirteens um at the nest ah until his contract runs down. We don't care. He's not for sale and we're not going to be bullied into into into something by this type of behaviour. Unless you choose to make to send a message with a player like, well, Sarge or whoever it is, ah you know, we're going to be in the same position in the summer or the summer after that or the summer after that because if he does do what, you know, ironically I did just say, which is gets to go in the first window, he kicks up a fuss within a few days.
00:07:38
Speaker
then the message it sends is that's the way to do it. and And you will always be successful. But I mean, having said that, there is an element of if he if the only thing that matters to him is is leaving the football club and he's willing to behave in that way in order to force it through faster.
00:07:55
Speaker
I mean, also, I don't understand the urgency that they are not about to kick off, right? They only finished a few weeks ago. You know, that also Toronto... sure I was going to say it's 20th of February or like so late February.
00:08:07
Speaker
The MLS season actually kicks in. so's so Exactly. So he he is going to be in better nick than any of the other players in that squad in terms of match sharpness and what have you. So it's not like there's any sudden urge. It's still like more than half the window to go Plus Toronto are shit. know if you've looked at the MLS table, which is a farmer's fucking league. And I've just had anyone make out that it isn't.
00:08:26
Speaker
and like you know they They get look at less than half of the points of the teams that challenged. and So it's not like, oh no, it's my dream to go and play in Toronto. you know He's not Canadian. It's it' nonsense. Absolute nonsense. so Yeah, it's a step back in his career. and and there might be other interest it might be other interests that is not that is maybe more real that they don't want to dangle because they actually don't want to you know prejudice it because they think they might develop it into a better office. then There might be more than more than one club, but No, I think that Clement has made it clear that um in the way that he said, I'm going to tell you about it and we are both completely on the same path that he won't be sold this window. i think we've got rotting in the reserves ahead. are honest and the fact They're not allowed to do that anymore, though.
00:09:12
Speaker
No, but they are allowed they are allowed to um not pick him.
Player Loyalty vs. Modern Football
00:09:15
Speaker
so Yeah, they cannot pick him, but they're not allowed to stick him with the under-21s, I don't think, anymore. But I suppose you could... you could But there's there's probably alternative means, isn't there? Like, you know, right, you've got an individualised training plan. You're training over there on your own rather than, you know, with the young ones. So there's things they can do.
00:09:33
Speaker
I can... with with the You don't want our owners to use their money... to do this that we can afford to send a message to the rest of the squad that if you behave like a dickhead then yeah you can collect your wages but you won't see action and you will not force a move until we are ready for you to force a move and or until we're ready to let you go at a price we're happy with can i just offer you one example because i was trying to think of it the other day of ah could he come back from it oh i was trying to think of it last night could he come back from this
00:10:06
Speaker
And the only example that I can probably offer you both is Emi Buendia in that window. Wes. Wes. Did he him and refused to play? He didn't celebrate the goal.
00:10:22
Speaker
Well, yeah, but he didn't I thought he didn't refuse to play. which And this is the bit where Farker had to take Buendia out of... it Basically, was like he's not available for the selection because his head's everywhere, which to me was was a different and canant manifestation of the same situation. yeah And Cantwell, actually. Yeah, but Cantwell never came back, though.
00:10:39
Speaker
No, he did that season. We got promoted. Yeah, I thought he was good that season. But I mean, no, but in terms in terms of the fan base ever really, like that was kind of the the salt that that sulky prima donna stuff with Todd. Yeah, but Buendia is revered.
00:10:54
Speaker
and And, you know, there was... Yeah, know totally. being Being that level of footballer probably, you know, buys you some leeway and in that regard. But... In terms Wessie as well, Clare, I mean, you say he didn't celebrate a goal. I'm not sure Wes always understood what was going on, to be honest. No, he understood that full well. Wes understood that full well at that point. And he called us a shithouse club as well at that at the time. Yeah, it was pretty bad. I don't remember.
00:11:19
Speaker
No, no, no. I'm not sure he actually did say that. Yes, he did. I'm not sure he actually said that. Anyway, let's not desecrate the memory of Wesley Huda. But there's also a body of work though, right? Yeah. Emmy helped us win a league and was incredible. But there's a body of Josh Asaj as well, isn't there? He scores 50-odd goals for this club, yeah.
00:11:42
Speaker
He's scored some goals, but he has also gone missing when we really needed goals. He didn't score us goals to keep us in the league. and He didn't score us goals to project us to and to the title. He hasn't scored goals to get us into the playoffs. and He didn't even score goals to get us nearly the playoffs last year. Sainz did it all. He's constantly ah out injured.
00:12:03
Speaker
This is all true. We did get into playoffs with Sarge. Not off the back of like a 30-goal season. no but he's been injured for a lot of that season. In fairness. His goals to game ratio. I don't need to be fair to him. He's not been fair to me. i'm not like as far as I'm concerned, yeah, I am. Because my football club and I don't want I want to think better of Josh as a human being.
00:12:31
Speaker
I want to know why. want to know why. And I'm sure there is explanation than we've right now. But if there was more to it, Claire, unless Clement is a stony-hearted, evil man, I don't say that Claire. Don't say that to Claire. No, but this is why I'm specifically setting up my next point with... It's too hard. It's too hard. Unless he is really nasty piece of work,
00:12:57
Speaker
if there's a If there's something that's... you know If there's way more to it than transfer stuff, right? um He wouldn't have said that. I don't think he says it. I just says Josh josh wasn't available. I don't know, though. i think He's got flu, he's got an illness. he's No, because I think he's pretty pissed off with Josh's behaviour. Exactly. That clearly came across, no matter what the reasons. But I i think...
00:13:20
Speaker
you know You hope they sit down and have a where they will have a sit down and can't have a conversation about it this week. I don't think you'll let him sit down. I think you'll make him stand. walk run around There will be consequences, I think, the word to use. Because you can't ring up the day before say, i da oh, sorry, boss, don't fancy it. That's a load of shit. Didn't even ring. off Text message hey message. Text message. Not even ringing, yeah. I i feel like if you ring if you ring Clement and give him bad news, it's like a cartoon and like his voice like comes out of the receiver. Like, at you, Clement, he's going to shout you. Oh, oh.
00:13:53
Speaker
Let's talk some positives. Yes, please. Speaking speak speaking of Clement and that press conference, I loved him shutting down the press boys when they tried to ask follow-up questions. He said, no, boys, and i like that he called a boys
Broader Cultural Issues at Norwich
00:14:06
Speaker
as well. No, boys, ah we are going to focus on the lads that played really well, worked really hard and wiped the floor with ah albeit a lower league opposition. yeah But still there's weight there's there's ways to go about in a fake-up.
00:14:17
Speaker
um you know we've we lost a non-league lute and you know we've all seen norwich and that wasn't that bad a lineup either that day you know if you go strong you expect a strong finish and the quality of some of the finishes there is some of the defending isn't great but the quality of the finishes shows that that they were they were on it and yes they three nil they could have coasted but they didn't they kept going for more and more so I loved both the the the way he approached it, the energy they played with, and also, yeah, the the fact that he wanted to keep the focus as much as possible on um the guys that played. And just one tiny little callback to um the the negative thing about Silly Sarge, the fact that he was so keen to make sure that the focus was on the boys who played well is the reason that I really do not think there is anything more to it because he he was...
00:15:11
Speaker
he He really wanted to make the point that Josh had done something out of order and then really wanted to focus on the positive stuff. So I feel he felt that he was in he he couldn't not mention it.
00:15:22
Speaker
you see what I mean? Because he's almost going against what he says. He chose to bring that up. He could have just said, oh, he wasn't available. He had sniffles. And then in in the future, you can learn that it wasn't sniffles. It was something else or whatever. i like the fact that he was that honest. I did think that. I thought, I'm glad we've got a man manager that is...
00:15:40
Speaker
brutally honest, that you know, because he could easily have said, oh, yeah, he's he's got a little strain or, you know, he's got a sniffle or whatever. He felt yeah ill. Well, I don't... We've got the scan results, Dean Ashton, you know. yeah jo yeah yeah if jo if If Josh came... if josh gets you know puts out a message to the fans to say, and my agent was in my ear um and ah you know I'm really worried about World Cup selection. ah In retrospect, it was a really, really stupid thing to do.
00:16:11
Speaker
um i thought that it because it was a cup game, it would be okay because Joe was scoring for fun anyway, so of course he's going to get a hatty. But you know please, can you forgive me? I'm willing to work my way back. And he starts the next game on the bench. Right. takes out a full page in the ah EDP. Well, ah this is it it. I think it's it' in order for it to be saveable, it has to, it has to immediately be full on climb down apology, but I don't see it being that way. If he, if he's already got to the point that he's, he wants out and he's willing to go somewhere as shit as Toronto,
00:16:43
Speaker
and I mean, we talked before we pressed record that yeah there could be some homesickness stuff. There could be some family wanting to relocate. Well, that's fine, but that needs to it needs to be transfer stuff. not like If your missus is desperate to go home, doesn't mean that you lose the ability to play football. At the end of the day, they're playing football. They're kicking a ball around. yeah like They're not doing open heart surgery. like I can't concentrate on kicking a ball because my missus wants to go home. Come on Give me strength. It's pathetic.
00:17:13
Speaker
Don't you agree, Punt? you don't seem I don't know why you're not as angry as i just enjoying watching you run. that's why I don't know if I'm ever as angry as you are, but but what what I would say is, right ah but i'm the mitigation that I'm trying to offer um in my head when I try and rationalise that is maybe Josh Sargent is such a good human that the happiness of his good lady wife is that important to him that he is willing to take this on the chin and ride it out and get that move to a place where, look, career-wise, it is a bit of a dead end. um she you know She may well have said to him,
00:17:49
Speaker
mate, we've been together since we were, they're high school sweethearts, aren't they, from i understand? So like we've been together since we were 14, 15, whatever. I've had to sit here and watch you and move to Germany for you and then move to England for you when I didn't want to leave my family in the US.
00:18:05
Speaker
it' it might be my turn now. Now, do I think that's reasonable? Sorry, he's 25 and he's got another 10 years at most of playing saying it's reasonable, right? No. so am i saying Am I saying that that's maybe what's happened and that maybe there is a a pang of guilt attached to what he's doing?
00:18:24
Speaker
Maybe. Wait, five years? But he can't kick a football about. he can't run up and down. Like, be on the bench. He probably would have been on the bench anyway. But this is, but, okay, we don't want to say, but we don't want to use the word behaviours, do we? But, yeah, it's really poor in terms of what he's done. It's absolutely, you know, like, I was really angry yesterday. That's the main bit for I'm really, I'm really angry. Don't, don't, don't drag it down even more. Yeah.
00:18:51
Speaker
um
00:18:54
Speaker
Yeah, he's like, yeah, fuck me. We've descended into fast already. um Yeah, it's really disappointing. But at the same time, i think he had some level of credit in the bank for me to try and Fathom, you know, look, actually, is is there something else at play? Is there something else going on? You know, kind of, it is there good enough reason that he has conjured up in his mind as to why this is justifiable? Because everything that I've seen before from that fella seems to suggest to me that he's a good human and that, you know, he's he's been a better human than a lot of other
00:19:31
Speaker
absolute knobs that we've had at the at the you know this football club. um well i think So the he's let us down in this way is is very, very disappointing.
00:19:42
Speaker
But that if you take me being angry, if you remember when Rat Ugly Twat went to the scum, um I wasn't that angry because I never rated him as much as other people and and he didn't have anything like the same amount of credit. So one of the reasons that I am so disappointed is my...
00:20:00
Speaker
the career trajectory for Josh, the narrative that he seemed to be locked into was did really well for us, moved on to bigger, or better things. And it, and it was a big thank you at the end of the season, Allah, whether it be Sarah, whether it be science, whether it be, um, know, who was, um, know, training and came turned up for preseason or the rest even though was so obvious before, way before the end of the season that he was going to go, cause he don't, his move by scoring so many goals. Um,
00:20:27
Speaker
You know, that that's why I'm so angry is because it there are so many easier ways of getting getting, if it is to do with, you know, his missus and, you know, she's getting absolutely thrown under the bus. She she might be like I had nothing to do with it. I had nothing to do with her there at all. yeah yeah she She might prefer to go back to Germany because Christmas markets a better. Who knows? I mean, realistically, you make a really good point, Claire. 25.
00:20:52
Speaker
like yeah he's probably got two he if he If he keeps his form and fitness, he's probably got two more really potentially strong moves left in his career. and Another couple of two and a half years worth of 20s, basically, that he can make an impact at clubs. That's what I don't get. It's like career-wise... The World Cup is probably already over for him, realistically. Even if he gets in the squad, he hasn't performed when he's been in the team for the USA. No, he can't hit Bond or. He may or may not get in the squad even if he does go to Toronto. The World Cup's only every four years. So he's going to do all of this on the on the the hope that he gets in the World Cup squad. And then what the rest of his his year is spent playing in the MLS, which is...
00:21:33
Speaker
a far lower level than what he's playing at now. We're all thinking he might be going to West Ham and playing in the... I mean, that would be a rubbish move anyway because they're probably going down. But even so, he'd be going to the Premier League. He'd like, OK, fair enough. Get more eyeballs on him, yeah. He's 25. He's at the...
00:21:49
Speaker
like prime of his career. He's got a good five years left at the prime of his career. If he was over 30, I would completely understand his desire to want to go closer to home. Absolutely. It's such a short career. He's got the rest of his life to go back home.
Podcast Sponsorship & Conclusion
00:22:05
Speaker
I don't particularly want to live in London anymore, but I'm stuck here because of my job. Yeah, quite. I want to move back home, but it's not that easy for me to move. So I'm sticking it out until I can. Because this broadcast doesn't pay very well, doesn't it, Claire? Exactly. Well, I haven't seen any money at all. Exactly. I've been here for years. You're supposed to be getting paid.
00:22:26
Speaker
Anyway, my point is there are people. If we can get a local brewery to sponsor us, it'll all be fine, won't it? Pay me some money. Let me trick some fans into thinking it's charity. Anyway, why don't we... You get point anyway.
00:22:39
Speaker
Yeah, i do. why don't we um Why don't we just say no more, Sarge, for the rest of this episode? Because I know we had a couple of questions on Insta about him, but um I think we've done that. Yeah, really yeah exactly. And and really, um what I think we're all agreeing with is Your move, Josh. You know, Clement has won round one. You know, you look a silly boy. And I think Hux is often quite a good barometer. Like, what you know, I quite often put a lot of stock in what he says around situations, particularly around kind of morale or culture and stuff, because he's not, you know, he's not woke or arty.
00:23:18
Speaker
and You know, he's lived in the game. He's played the game. He knows the club inside out. But he's also, knows's you know, he did a lot of moves in his career. and So I often think that he's quite a straight talk in straight shooting. And he he made it clear with his social media comments that, you know, he's been a bit silly here. It's a bad look. And and and he and he's made a similar point about how young he is. So I think it's your move, Josh. Let's see how he and or his agent and or his wife um play it over the next few
Spotlight on Rising Stars
00:23:45
Speaker
days. There could be a spectacular climb down and it could be that we go, all right, well, that was naughty, but you got plenty of credit in the bank. But
00:23:54
Speaker
and Yeah, we'll we'll draw a line undersized. Let's talk about the performance and let's talk about McCarma because, you know, there is there is one striker who plays for Norwich who is having a hell of a season punt.
00:24:06
Speaker
He, i mean, i think for me, it's just so utterly wonderful when a striker emerges that you just never expected. right So, Tejma Pukki, 2018-19, signed as a backup to Jordan Rhodes, absolutely you know blasts the division and ends up with 29 goals or whatever it was.
00:24:28
Speaker
like I'm not putting McCarma in that bracket yet, but actually I'd seen some criticism, not criticism, sorry. I'd seen some kind of flippancy around um just how prolific he'd been. And it there was almost like a suggestion, well, you know, one of them had come off his hand and another one had come off his knee and another one was bundled in. And my argument to that would be, well, he was in the right place on every occasion to get, you know, but actually on Saturday, sorry, Sunday,
00:24:56
Speaker
all three finishes were just really, really well taken. i mean, the goals were were relatively well crafted as well, but it just, he feels like, even though when he was playing in off the left, he's got this happy knack now of just being in the right place and being such a physical presence that defenders don't really know what to do with him in a way that... Their manager said that, didn't yeah they? They couldn't handle it. he You know, whether he was going inside or outside or physically bullying them, you know, if he's...
00:25:26
Speaker
Look, he's not the greatest with his back to goal as yet, but he's got the you know the physical attributes to be able to do that, you would say. And I heard Clement kind of talking about um showing him clips of Lukaku and you know making those comparisons in terms of his you know his physical profile. Maybe you can get you know kind of you can you can um have similar actions to to be able to score goals.
00:25:47
Speaker
But actually, when he gets defenders turns out turned around, when he's running at them, because... He is quick. He's physically massive. He's going to be able to not bundle you out of the way, but actually, you know, kind of knock you off the ball quite easily.
00:26:00
Speaker
and He's winning headers as well. Like, it feels like there's so much to work with. And he's got 12 goals already this season. Like, you know, you show me a 21-year-old in the championship, you know, who's got 12 goals at this stage of the season, probably in the last two or three seasons. You know, we've got a real...
00:26:17
Speaker
but Let's just hope it's not just a purple patch, but feels like we've got a real breakout star on our hands. yeah And look credit to the recruitment team because no one had ever heard of him before you know we picked him Well, I certainly hadn't heard of him before we we picked him up.
00:26:31
Speaker
And I saw a lot of... people maybe pour scorn in it, kind of almost saying, oh, look, he's only scored seven or eight goals for you know Lincoln City. you know That's not the kind of striker that Norwich should be looking for.
00:26:43
Speaker
i mean, he's he's been unbelievable, absolutely unbelievable. And I know we said it on the last pod you know that that maybe we'd been hyping up Oscar and actually you know we'd we'd been overlooking Jovan, but it It just, you know, Clement has been making noises. Oh, you know, he was at 30%. Now he's at 50%. I think I heard him say, oh I'll give him 53% now. you yeah it was just but But he's right.
00:27:10
Speaker
Like, you know, like he is absolutely right. You know, he hasn't he hasn't been one of these players that, um you know, has been honed. And I think this is a good thing, actually. He hasn't been honed in an academy, you know, kind of, you know, almost to this identikit football, you know, kind of he is a little bit more of a a throwback in the way he plays.
00:27:27
Speaker
But actually, because of that, you know, he's he's got a lot of of the kind of, I don't know, you know, the technical stuff still to come on. And he will get there, I think. Well, one one of the things around him being difficult to handle, um something I've noticed the last couple of games in the league, is the fact that he, how tall he stands up when he is facing goal.
00:27:50
Speaker
So he is really difficult to predict whether he will push the left and shoot or push the right and shoot when he's kind of being stood up by by defenders around the edge of the penalty area. As he breaks into the area, he's he's ah He's a big boy and the way he runs with the ball at his feet is really upright. it's just a physical thing that I've noticed with him. And I wonder if that is part of why he is so difficult to read because he doesn't have a natural leaning one way or the other. And he's that and that's why maybe players, defenders are standing up to him as well, which therefore is making it harder for them to flip their hips as where he does choose which side he's going to go to open the space for a shot. um So, yeah, I completely agree. and and And actually, in terms of some of his scrappy finishes, and the the number of different types of goals he is scoring, the number of different places from within the box he is scoring, that I think that is only a positive thing. And I think it reduces the purple patch overall.
00:28:48
Speaker
likelihood based on the fact that he isn't a set formula. You know, he isn't just crashing him in with his head because he's big from corners. He isn't just cutting in, like Sainz scored almost the same goal about 15 times, right? yeah You know he's going to cut inside and curl on because that's how Sainz scores goals. Whereas Makama is dribbling, beating man. Yeah, all over place.
00:29:08
Speaker
Yeah, he's dribbling, beating a man and scoring. He's beating two men, having a one-two in scoring. He's getting the last touch with a shin or a knee or whatever just in front of the keep. like It shows great range. I love i love the ones where he... I hope they're working on a contract extension already. I love the ones where he just has the strength to hold off the defender who's doing everything they can to like to to stop him, but they just can't. And then he gets the power he gets from a shot with the ball that's almost dead, like there's no sort of momentum in the ball already, but he just manages to get this power behind it. He does that time and time again. i think i think that's it's amazing. I'm really enjoying watching him playing at the moment.
00:29:46
Speaker
I enjoy watching his demeanor as well. I mean, this can come because he is young and obviously he's getting more success at a higher level. So he's getting more eyeballs than he's had before and and more cash. And that's ah very likely to increase income at the moment. He really doesn't play like he he doesn't, he doesn't have the demeanor of the dickhead that he de could quite possibly be. Yeah. You know, he's not strutting around. He's not, he's not super blingy. He's not, so he's no he's not, he seems really grounded. He seems quite humble. He's quite softly spoken, you know. Don't you think you know that that in part is because he's come from the lower leagues because he's come from Lincoln. Quite possibly. like Why don't we go shopping down there a bit more often?
00:30:25
Speaker
none they've done good job so Well, we got Darren Huckabee played for Lincoln as well once, didn't he? We often hark back to Lambert and his squad of lower league people who all felt like your Nelsons of this world. They've grafted a bit to get where they are. you know Russell Martin. you know they they all they Norwich was the highest.
00:30:47
Speaker
yeah okay Holt had you know been at Forest, but mostly Norwich was the highest they'd ever been, either in the football pyramid or in terms of size of club at that level, right? So there is something to be said for, I'm on a journey rising upwards. yeah um And you know quite possibly Sarge saw it as ah as a sideways step because he was going across to you know the the Premier League from the Bundesliga. Don't mention his name.
00:31:11
Speaker
Sorry, Bruce Larson didn't mention the situation. You have done that, Claire. So, yeah, I feel that he's one to be chuffed with. Speaking someone to be chuffed with and sticking with the S theme of the intro, Tony, Tony, Tony Springer. Oh, bless him. I mean, what a touch. That defender needs to not be ducking out the way, by the way. I don't want to watch that. Can you imagine being in that video analysis room in Walsall? I know if they have a video analysis in Walsall. I do want to get in the way of this lovely goal. I know, but I mean, but it wasn't even a different, he couldn't chest it. Like he had to duck so low get out of the way. Anyway, it was, it was a really, really nice ball from Gibbs, which probably should have been cut out, but the touch from spring it and then a couple more and yeah, it was lovely. And that's a feel good story, right? That's what you want. And he's another one who, who,
00:32:02
Speaker
we we quite often talk about regression versus, you know, positive development as a sign of a good coach. He's one who's come on leaps and bounds, Claire. And and I'm, you know, surely he has to start the next league game.
00:32:15
Speaker
I'm just thrilled for him because, you know, obviously we didn't understand what was going on with him with his injury and how bad it was. He just sort of disappeared off everybody's radar. But when he first came in the team, was in the Premier League and he came into that team and actually was one of our best players towards the end of that season when we were pretty dire by then. But he was one of the shining lights. I was going to say, this Dean Smith era we're about, Claire. But him and Johnny Rowe came in towards the end of the season and they were like the best things in the team. We were raving about them.
00:32:46
Speaker
And then he just kind of disappeared. So it's almost like having a brand new player again. and i just I just love it. like the The way all the players reacted when he scored. And as Clement said, you know he had the Tony Springett fan club behind him when he scored. I mean, that's just awesome, isn't it? It just shows how yeah well-liked he is and... Yeah, it's a brilliant story. I love the the reverse angle of the goal um shows Medici puts his head his hands on his head and as as as the goal goes in. which yeah kind of i can't believe that he's got his goal. it is It's lovely. and and's I think there's a lot of that in this squad. It's another reason why the situation we're not now talking about. There's a lot of things I feel that we're not allowed to say anymore. But another reason that that it feels like such it was such a
00:33:35
Speaker
hammer blow such a it stuck out so badly because everything culture wise for we've almost had six weeks of of obviously a couple of bad results but other than that it's it's basically in six weeks of positivity togetherness and and you just felt like this is really at odds with what clement is building um yeah so yeah is there anyone else you want to pick out punt from from sunday who um you know yeah We haven't mentioned Urosek and him getting off the mark with not not a gentle tap at goal. off going No, he he thwacked that. I want to put out another shout for Tony Springett because he does genuinely come across as a brilliant human.
00:34:14
Speaker
Again, you know, let's not let us down now, Tony, by agitating for a move, you know, mean when you get. when you get really good. He wants to go Arsenal. But if, yeah, but if you look at his Twitter feed, like, you know, I remember this, you know, this is probably about 18 months ago and it felt like the joy he would take in just retweeting, you know kind of people really at grassroots or who'd maybe, you know, kind of,
00:34:40
Speaker
come out you know kind of in a football team or he was championing women's sports. I was like, actually, this is a guy who like really gets it and just yeah comes across beautifully. um But in terms of other people, I'd probably want to shout out Jack Stacey purely because I think he's he had a game full of maybe what we'd expect, endeavour and up and down and really hard work, but actually he showed a bit of quality in the box as well. you know Played a couple of half-decent crosses, which I know I've been critical of him before. because he doesn't feel like he's ever able to cross. But, you know, look, he he found people um on Sunday and he looked really purposeful. So, you know, maybe, maybe... um no I'm not going to say he's found his level playing League 2 opposition. What I am saying is that he was really effective and I felt
Memorable Norwich Moments
00:35:28
Speaker
like him and... And actually, we talked about it, I think, on a previous pod, him and Juracek linked up quite well.
00:35:34
Speaker
um You know, and and it felt like... for me, maybe Stacey's pace and work great, allied quite nicely with Eurosek, who maybe hasn't got that bit, but he has got the quality that Stacey hasn't got. you know kind of It's almost like they were missing bits of the jigsaw that you could lock together.
00:35:51
Speaker
I want to just talk a bit about, is it Jurasek or Jurasek? I can't say Jurasek. I've heard both. I flip between both just for a fun. Matty J? Can we go Matty J? Is that right? No. I don't think he's he's achieved that level of acclaim yet. we've got Matty K. I'm Matty J. um Anyway, i think I think the fact that he's playing a little bit more regularly and getting... so i mean he He played quite a lot of the game. can't remember exactly when he went off on Sunday, but maybe 70 minutes. 70 minutes, maybe, yeah. i say The more he's playing, the more he just seems to be coming more and more into the game. And we're just seeing now the player that we thought we had signed last January. Like, it's a year late, but are we actually now going to be getting that player? and then...
00:36:38
Speaker
Someone who was watching the game on Sunday was saying how great his crosses are and his corners also were really, really good, really high quality. Yeah, they were better. The goal, and they showed today, the couple out with Slimani doing their little back heel flick for the assist. But the cross was a really great cross from Muresek to Slimani as well. Yeah.
00:37:00
Speaker
to get it into him. So i think he had a really, I mean, again, it's Walsall, we can't get carried away, but he's had a couple of decent performances now. So I just hope that this is the start of something more solid for him.
00:37:13
Speaker
I want to just go back one player to Stacey and ask you both, although obviously, you know, Punt, you're so much older than me, so you've got much more experience. um has that ever So is Claire. Yeah, but that's that's not the joke. I know. and the yeah Has there ever been in the same season two players sharing a song?
00:37:37
Speaker
because I can't think of one. So you've currently got Ole Ole, Makama again, and we've also, to the same tune as Jack Stacey's song. And I can't think of a time when we've had the same tune sung for two different players in the same season. So obviously we've recycled tunes before and and you know players have gone and new ones come and we've you know we've we've used their and you know yeah the Elliot Bennett song and it's been reused lots of times, etc. oh yeah but And the D-D-D-D has been almost every player ever signed.
00:38:08
Speaker
But um often feel I often feel we go dirt dirt di do before we've worked out what a good good song will be for a player. um So, yeah, I can't think of an example where we were so unoriginal that we just literally used one song two I we need to get some better songs for a lot of players because they're all a bit average it does It does feel a weak crop. I really like the Cordoba one. and The only time I've heard it was Coventry Away last year, which is... I've never heard this.
00:38:39
Speaker
english To the tune of Englishmen in New York, Panamanian, Jose's Panamanian, Panamanian and on the ball. It's great. and it and it was like we we We sang it at Coventry Away under Thorup.
00:38:52
Speaker
And it was belting, proper bouncy, bouncy, happy tune. You don't hear that tune used often at football, but I guess doesn't really play. He probably needs to play more, doesn't he? I feel like Makama deserves his own decent song because he's a goal scorer and he keeps Stacey's rather basic Olay one. and which because You had the tequila one, didn't you, for Makama before? Yeah, but again, that's not very original. It's not original, no.
00:39:19
Speaker
no i i feel like he deserves uh he deserves like a proper proper one like this you know sergeant had it took a while but then eventually sergeant got his own song and i feel like mccarney's zone don't know the the bark is bouncing much better than it has done you know and a lot of it does come from you you sing more about the teams that you fall in love with and what have you yeah but but you know I really do think we are short of short of decent tunes for for some of these lads. Kellen Fisher needs a proper tune. Haven't they recycled Max Aaron's song for Kellen?
00:39:53
Speaker
I heard that a couple of times. I haven't heard Star. Yeah, I was very disappointed with that. That's lazy. Well, it is lazy. And also, it's... it diminishes that previous thing because we've never sung Starman for anyone else. And and Max Aarons was a really special player at Norwich. Again, one who left in the right way and and always seemed like a lovely boy.
00:40:16
Speaker
Is he rotting in Rangers? Reserves at the moment. It doesn't seem to be playing since they started playing well. um But yeah, and anyway, that's my that's my call to arms for for singers to to to come up with some better stuff.
00:40:29
Speaker
um we had an interesting question that we wanted to touch on oh yes on the socials um would you like to read that out and then punt can give the answer he's really proud of himself for remember i'm not proud of myself i just thought it was a lovely hat trick but anyway claire asked the question because i'm ruining it yeah sorry it's from richard freezer and it's what is your favorite norwich hat trick but obviously not the obvious halt versus scum one
00:40:54
Speaker
Do you want me to give my answer now? One of my favourite songs, as we were just talking about songs. Love that song. Yes. Go on then, Pum. I offer out Tame Apuki's hat-trick against Newcastle when were back in the Premier League.
00:41:09
Speaker
And, i mean, the volley is just unbelievable. like But it just felt like, do you know what? i I remember after that game, I remember there's two two strands to it.
00:41:23
Speaker
First is, I remember thinking to myself, would I swap Pukki with any other footballer in the world at that moment in time? And the answer absolutely, unequivocally, would have been no. I was just so proud of that lad for you know doing it doing it in the Premier League, but doing it with and for Norwich. That moment felt perfect.
00:41:46
Speaker
But also, i remember watching a YouTube video, and it was a Newcastle kind of fan cam after that game. And essentially, like the Newcastle fan just went on a massive, massive rant about how basically they were rotten and Norwich were the absolute example of actually where they should be pitching it. And you know they were we were a terrifically run football club. And at that point in time, it just felt like nothing could go wrong ever again. And actually, we were going to stay up under Farker, even though we'd only spent 750 grand on Sam Byram and then a load of freebies because...
00:42:22
Speaker
we just had that momentum. you know Todd Cantwell somehow had found like unbelievable form as well out of pretty much nowhere. you know it It just felt like everything was going right. And then a load of centre-backs got injured and it all went belly up. But you know I still like to believe if Christoph Zimmerman hadn't got injured early in that season, that maybe things would have been very, very different. So it just, not necessarily for the quality of the hat-trick, but it was a really good hat-trick. But it was more just about the way it made me feel about Norwich.
00:42:55
Speaker
Well, we still felt invincible. Like we still had the the champions feel, even though we obviously lost some games at that point. It was our first home game, wasn't it? So I think we'd only lost to... Oh, was it? Yeah. oh I thought it was only... No, that was that was our first home game.
00:43:09
Speaker
I was thinking... We lost to Liverpool away in the first game. Right. I thought that came after the Chelsea game. I don't think so. I thought we'd lost to Chelsea narrowly. Okay. But mean, in that period of the season, even though we were... When we were losing, we were losing with real...
00:43:27
Speaker
sort of flair in character. Like that Chelsea game was like a five-a-side game. I remember that 3-2. That was a really, really competitive We played really well in that game, yeah. Yeah, and when we were losing, you know, we didn't feel we were far off it. And I think it is the fact that we just needed another couple of bodies. Had we had backed Varka in that first window, think we would maybe still in the Premier League. We did have terrible luck. Terrible luck with injuries that is.
00:43:56
Speaker
even Ibrahim Amadou had turned out to be like a half decent player. He had to play at the back for half the season. And that wasn't what bought him for. He didn't have a defensive midfielder then because they were all playing in defence. So it was just a mess. Right, come on, give us your... Can I just also say as well, because I forgot to mention it, that it was my oldest daughter's birthday on that day as well. Lovely and special. Yeah, it was nice of Timo to do that for her birthday.
00:44:21
Speaker
It was, yeah. Basically, that's exactly why he scored the swing. Yeah, it's the only reason he tried that day. Exactly. Right, go on, Clare Bear Thomas. So that I did have Timo as my second one in case in case one of you picked my first one, but it's it's got to be Simeon, hasn't it?
00:44:37
Speaker
Derby. I mean, that... Chance! Exactly. That hat trick, that goal in the 90-something minute, that's like part of our folklore as Norwich City, as Norwich City fans. Like the commentary, the fan falling over the hoardings during the celebration. Like... Tremendous. Exactly. It's just like in ground into our very beings. And that the way that we all felt after that, I went back to London after the game, after that game with my then partner. And um we basically didn't speak to each other for the whole journey because we were just in shock about what had just happened and what it actually meant because we were about to get promoted. Is that where it started to go wrong? No, no. Because we'd fallen out. We were just like, we just looked at each other every now and then and we'd just sort of shake our heads in disbelief. We got all the way back to London for like three hours and barely said a word to each other because we were just in stunned silence. And then we just got home and went, let's go to the pub. And it's like, yeah, it was just magical, magical. So nothing can beat that one. ah If I could go back to any moment as a Norwich fan, I think that would be possibly the moment I would choose when that good goal went in. Oh, that's interesting.
00:45:52
Speaker
It's one of the loudest like moments where Carrot just exploded. but yeah well You don't get many of those. no So the Vrancic, which wasn't a hat-trick and wasn't a winning goal. That's not answering the question then, is it? No, no, i no, no. It's because it's because of there's a particular there's a particular noise that the Coward Road crowd makes. And depending on the excitement forward slash relief forward slash joy, um there it's like the it's the vowel sound is more of an A and less of an O in the roar.
00:46:27
Speaker
And they're ah the... It's very technical. if you listen if you So if you listen, there's like a... There's an... oh sound yeah when we when when you hear the roar of the initial goal and then when it's an app when it's absolute limbs and bedlam it's more of an ah sound ah it's like higher right right and uh you'll and so if you watch for example give Oh, versus ah. and and I'm going to watch it back now.
00:46:59
Speaker
Tim Close's equaliser against Scum yeah was loud was loud. But I think the Vranchic, that was incredibly loud. yeah, yeah. loud yeah because That would also be a moment.
00:47:14
Speaker
That was relief limbs and it was that that was particularly loud. But yeah, that that Derby one was was absolutely bonkers. and It's going back a very, very long way um in terms of, some there's a couple of other old school loud ones that that I remember. um So a very old one.
00:47:33
Speaker
was ah the Bayern Munich, um the sound when we came out, ah not even Goss' equaliser. was going to the goal, just it goes nuts. No, the goal was mad. yeah I still get the hairs go up the back of my neck when I think about them because we obviously we'd seen them on telly and they'd already achieved this incredible feat. And obviously it was the first time we'd then seen them, you know, a few days later kind of thing. When they came out of the tunnel, the roar, how ready Carrow Road was for...
00:48:02
Speaker
this could be not you know amazing if those that were able to go and and be in the stadium that night away. But for those of us that were like, now it's our turn. Could we do something amazing? That roar was loud. But yeah, obviously the equaliser, when we were just like right now on aggregate, we're basically through. I was i was actually thinking about that today because I did think about the whole, oh, if I could go back to one moment, what would it be? And I actually did think about that one because that was my first season as a Norwich season ticket holder. And I hadn't really appreciated at the time...
00:48:36
Speaker
how big a deal that was because I was fairly new into liking football and I wish I could go back now as passionate as I am now 30 odd years later and redo that one because I didn't really feel like I gave it enough as a fan if that makes sense. enough limbs, you want to go back and re-link? Yeah, I didn't appreciate the enormity of it because I just thought life was always going to be like that.
00:49:02
Speaker
it sadly wasn't we've said it multiple times we've said it multiple times but yes what punt said to his girls it's not always like this they started at the pinnacle or a recent pinnacle um oh it's nice to be honest we have like sometimes you sometimes you sort of think oh no we only had that far and then you know lambert was incredible and then europe was pretty good yeah we have had we have had some tom tom tom you need to pick a hat trick Well, yeah you've said that you've said the two that are, I think, very worthy recent ones. and the ah the yeah The correct answer is obviously scored three goals against the Scun. And Wesley scored the other one. um But with um the the you mentioning Simeon Jackson, we we then went off on a tangent about talking about Scunthorpe game, when you know two hat-tricks in a game. That...
00:49:54
Speaker
It wasn't particularly important or significant in in terms of, but that that was a period of supporting Norwich where it felt like we could score six every week at the moment. yeah yeah and And when you get two hat-tricks in a game and they are both great players and and have done significant things. So I throw that one out there. not It's not on the same standard as the the two you just mentioned, but it's just another nice thing to put in people's heads as a bloody good day at the office for Norwich City.
00:50:20
Speaker
ive got a feeling that was on my dad's birthday as well. I'm sure it was. Oh, hat tricks on loved ones' birthdays. well the date well date former death birthday anyway Well, it's usually my birthday on the championship playoff final. oh it's mean my Because my my birthday is, funnily enough, always at the same time each year. um It's pushed one of those traditions I like to keep. And it's always May bank holiday. So depending on if it's like, sometimes they do it on the Saturday, sometimes they do it on the Monday. So sometimes it falls on it. So maybe in the future, there's ah there's a hat trick on a playoff final for me. Maybe next next Oh, yeah, that'd be lovely. And friends and fred Karma might do another hat trick. That'd be nice. yeah
00:50:57
Speaker
Yeah. Oh, no, because we're going to it say we're going to win the league. He'll have asked for a move next summer. In the January. You're not allowed to talk about him and him and spring it.
Closing Predictions
00:51:09
Speaker
because because it's actually spring it's sitting on 15 goals and 18 assists by Christmas next year okay right we and I think one final thing then and before we do our guarantees and we've signed a player um any any immediate thoughts and on in terms of Ali and obviously not fit enough to to play at the weekend do we think we're definitely going to see him and when when we get back to league action
00:51:37
Speaker
apparently I think he'll be on the bench, don't you? Yeah, Clemence said he's in his thoughts for Wrexham, isn't he? I think so. Hopefully. Yeah. So we've got and a couple of and couple of close, you know, we've got two games close together. It's quite a busy kind of couple of weeks. We go Wrexham-West Brom and then and we come back home again for Cobb and then up to Middlesbrough. So, yeah, we got yeah you go Saturday, Tuesday. Easy. That is tough, isn't it?
00:52:03
Speaker
Nearly six days off after that. It's actually really tough. Yeah, so so yeah I feel like we need to pick up some points against Wrexham and West Brom and to mean that we can go to... And Kov are having a wobble and we're at home, so maybe we'll beat Kov.
00:52:21
Speaker
Yeah, i i um I think if if we go into that game not off the back of disappointing results than the previous two, we'll be doing okay. But, you know, that's far too far ahead. We're going to talk again before this. So let's focus on guarantees for the next next two games. So what's your guarantee for Wrexham in terms of a score and a scorer, please, Claire?
00:52:46
Speaker
Wrexham having a bit of a purple patch at the moment, aren't they? Along come Norwich. yeah. jew I feel like we owe them one after what they did to us at home. So maybe we'll turn the tables and we will beat them 3-2. Is that what they beat? I think, yeah, 3-2. Yeah.
00:53:05
Speaker
And i'm obviously, Joves is going to score. And I think...
00:53:13
Speaker
matt maybe Matty K might might score a goal because I feel sorry for him. He didn't score one on Sunday. Yeah. yeah Yeah. It's a bit rotten if you get five. Yeah. I did feel a bit. get one feel a bit It's like, come on, Jove, let me have a go. What about you, Pump?
00:53:28
Speaker
um I think we'll probably go there and get a point. ah But I feel like we might, play very well. look We haven't played, a but like cup game aside, in the league, it feels like we haven't put in a belt in performance for a while. like Actually, early Clement days, it there was a lot of two-touch, one-touch football and flowing moves put together. I was like, I really like the look of this and I can see what we're trying to do.
00:53:53
Speaker
Points have been accumulated more through graft and actually being difficult to beat and defensively sound and then taking our chances when when we got them. I'd like to see us get back to maybe that kind of Sheffield United, Southampton performance level. So, you know, even if that's a point and it keeps us ticking along, I'd be well happy with that. So I'm going to go one one and o think Pella Mattson is going score.
00:54:17
Speaker
Oh, it'd be nice for him to get a goal. Yeah, that'd be lovely. Also, just a quick word for him. i know we like we kind of waxed quite lyrical about um Liam Gibbs' ball Tony Springer that the you know it was so powerful that Chap had to duck to get out of the way of.
00:54:33
Speaker
Just look at Pella Mattson's pass to Ben Crescene ahead of Jovan's third on Sunday. is incredible. Yeah, he's sort almost single-handedly um resurrecting Napa's reputation, isn't he? And Makama.
00:54:52
Speaker
I think we will... Oh, yes, of course. and I think we will win 4-0. I think that it will be a Mattson brace. Oh, yeah. Madson, as the commentator kept saying. Oh, yeah. That was Dan O'Hagan. It was. how we going can we Can we not keep having different, like, just pick one and stick with it. Madson. Oh, my God. Madson. But also, was Quiskorum, wasn't it? was Quiskroon or something. was like, yeah, it was all a bit.
00:55:19
Speaker
yeah well anyway I don't know how he knows his stuff he's probably right it' like yeah he's a good lad he does tend to you know he he does like like the foreign players he does tend to know no i I probably would back him but and yeah I'm just going to keep calling him what I call him so Mattson he's got a score Pele's going to score two and then and ah Sarge is going to come off the bench and score two and we're all going to feel very conflicted about oh
00:55:51
Speaker
That'd be a storyline, wouldn't it? It would. It would. i don't think he's anywhere near the 18 on Saturday. and And he doesn't celebrate either of them. yeah Apparently he didn't score the QPR goal. When you look back, he didn't celebrate QPR goal.
00:56:06
Speaker
As somebody pointed out. a low And I was like, oh, actually, no, he didn't. oh Right, we're not talking about it anymore. Get rid of him. ahll I'll take that. No, really quickly. So would you take 13 mil punt? Yes or no?
00:56:19
Speaker
If it was done this week? No chance. a chance. What's the million you would take? £21.2 million. In this window, crumbs. In this window. It's a premium window. Yeah.
00:56:32
Speaker
yeah You've got to pay more in January.
00:56:35
Speaker
Claire, what's your... Can't take less than what what we were about to sell him for when he said, I don't want to go And now he's turned around and I want to go now, but I want to go for £7 million pound less.
00:56:47
Speaker
Sorry about that. Tough shit. No. £20 million or more. Okay. I think we say you're never for sale. You're going to wind your time down training in a windowless room at Colney on own. Don't talk about Don't talk about it.
00:57:05
Speaker
I probably would take the money. and Cool. I just thought I like the idea of a cash injection at any time. It might help us get over the line with, you know, another. feels like we need a marquee signing this window. feels like Clement needs someone where where the headline... But they're really hard to get in January. Well, yeah, i know, but I feel like I cannot believe that he wasn't promised cash in January. He has been, but he said it's it's a really complicated window because nobody wants to let their best players go. It's really hard to get people in. So we'll overpay. We're rich.
00:57:37
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Okay. I'm just tempering your expectations a little bit. Okay. Trying to protect me from myself. Okay. Feels like that's this podcast. It's been for a while, mate. Okay, right, well, and you've got some guarantees and and obviously we're all in the same hymn sheet around Sarge or or not, we're all singing completely different songs. and Speaking of which, come up with some new songs, please. Yes. ah Hopefully we'll all enjoy the 4-0 romp in Wales and in the meantime, mind how you go.