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2025 Sun Belt Football: Week 6 Recap
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Brian and Zeke are joined this week by Aikman Chambers, who joins to talk over Shawn Clark's impact on App State football and the Mountaineers' big home win over Oregon State.
Elsewhere, the trio discusses a potential game of the year candidate, James Madison concerns, and an apology to Old Dominion for their preseason takes.
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Introduction and Guest Introduction
00:00:15
Speaker
Welcome everybody back to another edition of Warm Weather Fans, the Sun Belt Podcast. My name is Brian Stone, joined as always by Zeke Palermo. And this week we have a special guest, ah Appalachian State fan, Aikman Chambers.
00:00:29
Speaker
Aikman, you joined us for the preseason preview. It's been a little while since we caught up. How's it going, man? Oh, it's going good, guys. I appreciate you having me back on the show. Always love listening each and every week, keeping up with the Sun Belt, as always. it's ah I mean, for a long time, it's been our favorite group of five conference for obvious reasons with our team ties and connections.
00:00:53
Speaker
ah Even though maybe overall a down year for the conference as a whole from maybe what we expected in the preseason, but still each and every week you get good games like I know we're going to get into. We had some great games this week in the Sunbelt as a whole, especially my App State Mountaineers were involved in one of those, and I know we'll get to that, but it's still always a good time when we can get together and talk Sunbelt football.
00:01:20
Speaker
Absolutely. Zeke, what's up with you, man?
Remembering Coach Sean Clark
00:01:23
Speaker
Not a whole lot. Thanks for joining us, Aikman. Before we really get into the games, though, um something that we haven't talked a lot on the show about is the passing of former app coach Sean Clark. And we just wanted to ask your thoughts, if you care to eulogize him in any way. I know this is a guy that you worked with um for some time covering the team. So we'd love to hear your thoughts and perspectives on him.
00:01:51
Speaker
I tell you, I have told this in a couple different interviews I've done since Coach Clark passed away a few weeks ago. And the one way I know to kind of summarize him in a way, I guess, is if you look up the term Mountaineer in the dictionary, you're going to get the picture of Sean Clark next to the definition. He is the definition of what it means to be an App State Mountaineer, regardless of How last year went and the way it ended, there he is still the ultimate guy you think of because he bled black and gold literally. He loved Appalachian State University.
00:02:31
Speaker
He loved his players. was still connected to the area even though he was in Orlando ah this year. it It's really rocked the community from the mountain, even trickled down the mountain as well.
00:02:45
Speaker
Like he was just a well-respected person. And a lot of people, you know, obviously they had their differences over the last couple years with some of the fan base, but that's just because people that is so used to seeing this program win – They don't take sub-500 and barely 500 seasons very well. You guys know that as good and well as anybody. But one thing you can never question is the love he had for his players, his fellow coaches. Look at the impact that you saw of all the different coaches and all these different places that were saying wonderful things about Coach Clark and the impact.
00:03:25
Speaker
he had and a lot of players on this current team was recruited by coach clark in some way shape or form so you know it's an awful thing we continue to pray for for his wife and his kids as they have to go through life now without their rock and him for their family but man they Been wearing the number 61 helmet sticker on their back. They had a 61 painted on the heel yesterday up next to the big A hedges, and I think that'll stay there.
00:03:56
Speaker
I hope as time comes, because a lot of people don't remember this, Sean Clark was an All-American tackle when he was in Appalachian. So I hope that maybe nobody wears 61 again.
00:04:08
Speaker
Let's just go ahead and retire that number for App State simply because he's He meant so much to this school and this program. And you you're going to be hard. Jerry Moore and Sean Clark are the two guys.
00:04:20
Speaker
I know Satterfield and Drinkowitz, but when it comes to guys that were all App State for so long, you're not going to get two guys more than Jerry Moore and Sean Clark. Yeah, absolutely. And obviously, we you know, everybody was shocked when they heard the news. You know, you you texted me. I think you were that you were like the first person that I saw say anything about
App State vs. Oregon State Recap
00:04:43
Speaker
it. Like, there were people online that were like, I don't know, it's like unsubstantiated like rumors, like who knows. And then you you pretty much texted me and was like, yeah, this happened. And I was like, I couldn't believe it.
00:04:54
Speaker
Because again, the guy was just coaching in the Sunbelt like 12 months ago. you know not to Not to mention the O-line coach a couple weeks prior at UCF. So, I mean, it's just like it happened so fast.
00:05:09
Speaker
And, you know, it just – it's one of those things, man, that Coach Clark was one of those people, he would always go out of his way to talk to you. And he would joke back and forth, would cut up with you. when one of the like The last time I got to interview him,
00:05:25
Speaker
ah last year before the season started. ah we We talked in NFL, we talked obviously about Abba, he was just so good at making you feel valued in a conversation. It's one of those things Coach Clark did so well, and he he is dearly missed in this Abba State community.
00:05:44
Speaker
Well, speaking of App State, we can start off with their victory over Oregon State 27-23. Aikman, I'm going to go ahead and say i I didn't watch every snap of this game because I knew you would be on top of it. so and it kind of the The JMU Georgia State game was the same for Zeke. I knew he would be all over it. So I was more kind of just flipping back and forth between games or like who was close to scoring, things like that.
00:06:11
Speaker
um I want you to give me your overall thoughts, but really quick, what did you think of J.J. Cole's kind of first complete game starting at quarterback?
00:06:23
Speaker
We had gotten an email from an App State listener like weeks prior when they lost to Southern Miss
J.J. Cole vs. A.J. Swan: Who Fits Better?
00:06:29
Speaker
and was like, Yeah, a lot of us think that J.J. Cole is a better quarterback and a better fit for the team than A.J. Swan is. And Swan had gotten turnover prone in those two losses that they had had. So what was your overall kind of impressions of Cole in his first start?
00:06:48
Speaker
I'm going to be honest. I share that sentiment of a lot of the App State fan base because, honestly, i was on the J.J. Coltrane in preseason camp. I was hoping this is going to be the kid that got the nod.
00:07:03
Speaker
avery Everything I heard dating back to the spring was that A.J. Swan kind of got dropped into that number one slot. And even though it was a competition,
00:07:15
Speaker
How much of a competition was it really? It was almost like, look, Swann's going to be kept in-house at first on that depth chart, and I really didn't think there was any way that was going to change regardless of how things were going. I think they had made up their mind relatively early that that Swan was going to be the starter, but I was always intrigued by JJ Cole, not just because of that, you know, that six, seven frame that he brings to the table, but I just thought he was the more mobile option. AJ Swan, not super mobile outside the pocket.
00:07:50
Speaker
And with this offensive line, maybe not to where the offensive lines in years past for App State has been. I felt like a quarterback that could bring a little bit more mobility to the table would be more beneficial for this ah offense.
00:08:03
Speaker
Honestly, to me, J.J. Cole in his first start yesterday, I thought at times we kind of got into this groove of wanting to pass too much. You got to remember Rashad DeBinion was fourth in the nation and rushing coming into this game yesterday. and We got up 17 nothing and then it's almost like we kind of went into this little bit of an air raid mentality, which we have done in multiple games now this year where the running game just kind of gets abandoned in the play calling.
00:08:33
Speaker
You know, if Cole would have threw about 10 less passes and finished 13 of 18, 13 of 19 for that 218 yards and a touchdown, I still think he had a great game. He did nothing yesterday that tells me he won't walk into Atlanta Saturday as QB1 when Ab plays Georgia State.
00:08:55
Speaker
And I think Cole's just going to get better. I really like the potential this kid has. I'm not saying this a Ryan Berger, Joey Aguilar situation all over again where a guy gets hurt and banged up, the backup comes in and just never looks back. i don't You can't say something like that yet.
00:09:15
Speaker
It could have the potential depending on how this ah offense goes. But with guys like Rashad DeBinion, ride the running game, man. I mean, this dude, I know he had the crucial fumble late that they gave up the safety yesterday. But outside of that,
App State's Offensive Strategy Concerns
00:09:31
Speaker
this guy is a stud. And, oh, yeah, I remember when we talked to preseason, I said, watch out for Davion Dozier, who's barely played these first couple games, the Arkansas transfer receiver. exploded yesterday four only on four catches, 140 yards and a touchdown. I mean, that was Randy Moss Thanksgiving-esque back in the 90s when he did kind of the same stat line. So yeah I really like what J.J. Cole brings to the table, and I think as long as he keeps the turnovers down, listen, there was nowhere to go but up. The last few box scores for Swan, you pretty much didn't even want to look at it. It was just burn them and go on.
00:10:11
Speaker
And then the, you know, to say nothing of the Billy Wiles, Noah Gillen snaps that were taken. um
Analyzing Oregon State's Mistakes
00:10:19
Speaker
So I have a comparison and I don't know.
00:10:23
Speaker
i may be showing my age a little bit. JJ Cole reminds me a lot of Ryan Mallett when he was at Arkansas, like very tall, Got some mobility to him always seems to like fall forward when he like runs the football, you know, there's never, it never felt like there was a ah one where he got hit and then driven backwards. It was always like he'd get hit and just kind of like land on top of the guy and get a couple extra yards.
00:10:50
Speaker
Um, yeah. Aikman, tell me if you, so I had two big takeaways from this game. Tell me if you kind of felt the same way. Number one, obviously, I think the goal line stand at the end there, you know, sealed it for app because, you know, what wasn't it?
00:11:06
Speaker
Wasn't it that Oregon State scored and then there was a flag or something like that? Like I was, I was kind of back and forth between that and and another game that was happening at the same time. Everything near the end of that game for Oregon State, what I ended up finding out in the process of watching or keep keep working the game and keeping up with all of it and everything else was the fact that on the one-yard line for the three plays in a row that Oregon State had there late in the game, they didn't put Malik Murphy under center because he had a left-hand injury from the game against Houston ah the week before. So automatically you're keeping him in the shotgun, which from high school to NFL, nothing infuriates me more as a football fan than to be on the one-yard line and see teams in the shotgun.
00:11:56
Speaker
It absolutely drives me insane. every time I see it. And they were unable to put Murphy under under center, being a right-hand quarterback, that left hand being the base when you take that snap under center.
00:12:09
Speaker
So that played into App's favor. And I give the defense credit yesterday because they bowed their backs. You know, the game, it was one of those things where you thought, well, the defense has just got to pin their ears back and not get beat once they got up 17-0. Then things kind of started to spiral a little bit out of control. Oregon State was back in this game.
00:12:31
Speaker
It's kind of been – this has been the theme of the season so far. You know, the defense was great week one against Charlotte. Yes, that was Charlotte. The defense had its moments against Lindenwood. They ended up saving us the game because the ah offense was so bad in the Lindenwood game after the first quarter and a half.
00:12:49
Speaker
ah The offense just went dormant. And then, you know, Southern Miss was what it was. Boise State was what it was. It was bad on both sides of the football for those two. The defense did what they needed to do this week because I really – yes, the offense did good things, but the defense is really what sealed this game. And without those two big defensive stands late in that fourth quarter, the ah offense had kind of slowed down through the second half, and the defense really decided, okay, we're going to put this game away. Perfect.
00:13:21
Speaker
I wanted to ask your ah thoughts on this, Aikman. Just through five games, I mean, you're a half a season now, um pretty much through the first year with Dowell Loggins.
00:13:33
Speaker
How do you feel? ah Because I think what Brian and I have said in previous weeks is that it you know It could be better. It could be worse. But the real the real kicker is this is supposed to be an offensive guy.
00:13:44
Speaker
ah And we're leaving a lot of points on the table here at Oregon State, Lindenwood, Boise State. There's been a lot of points left on the table. Southern Miss. So what's kind of your take through these first five games?
00:13:59
Speaker
You know, it's one of those things, I think, in a lot of ways that the fan base has been left wanting to see more. I think people thought with some of the power for talent that was able to come to this team out of the portal, ah you know, I think people expected more offensively than what we've gotten.
00:14:20
Speaker
And I'll be honest, when it's been bad, it's been really bad. I mean, you look, Boise State, Southern Miss, even Lindenwood, I mean, as much – even though that game was a win, i don't think I've ever walked away from a game that felt as much like a loss out of a win as that Lindenwood game was. I'll be honest with you.
00:14:38
Speaker
And that's why these next two weeks, you got Old Dominion in three weeks,
Georgia State vs. JMU: Defensive Struggles
00:14:45
Speaker
right? So, and they seem to be the class of the conference right now, just my opinion.
00:14:50
Speaker
And you you have no excuses going to Atlanta next week and then Coastal Carolina coming to Boone the week after. If you want to keep your head above water and if you're Dow Loggins, you've got to perform these next two weeks because it's really going to – the season, you've got to win these next two that you're going to be favored to win.
00:15:14
Speaker
If you slip up and go one and one with Old Dominion come knocking on the door and then it's a Boise State or a Southern Miss performance all over again, the ship's going to point south.
00:15:24
Speaker
I can promise you that. It's just it's the nature of it. Now, i don't I wasn't expecting no miraculous nine or ten win season. I was not. I thought ah seven wins, maybe knock on the door of eight, we're going to be okay.
00:15:42
Speaker
I don't want to see six and six. I don't think anybody in the App State fan base wants to see six and six. I don't know if they want to see seven and five. I think a lot of people wanted to see at least eight wins, and that's kind of the benchmark.
00:15:56
Speaker
Anything below that, I think people are going to be left underwhelmed in year one, and then that's going to carry over into what could be one of the biggest off seasons for the program, simply because I know it'll just be the second year of his contract.
00:16:12
Speaker
But this fan base has been through some rocky waters the last now two, if you count this year, going into three years. It's been choppy from what they've been used to for, you know, a quarter of a century or over the last 20, 25 years.
00:16:27
Speaker
um on the and I know we're not a Pac-12 podcast, but I just felt like I needed to throw this out there. On the Oregon State side, I thought the play that really killed them, other than the goal line stand, was when Murphy threw that interception on third and goal in the fourth quarter because...
00:16:46
Speaker
It's an unnecessary risk, number one. It's third and goal. like Just throw it away, kick the field goal. You're down by six. So if you throw it away and you kick it, then it's twenty seven twenty four And on that last series when they're coming down the field, they don't need to go forward on fourth and score a touchdown to try to take the lead there.
00:17:06
Speaker
They could just kick another field goal and go to overtime. So... That was, I mean, to me, i don't I know you mentioned the left hand injury. I thought that was just like a brain fart kind of on his part where it's like, you don't need to chuck the ball into traffic.
00:17:20
Speaker
There were five guys between both teams just standing in a pile. It was almost like a so a very short Hail Mary that he threw that was literally just up for grabs and the app stick came down with it.
00:17:32
Speaker
But I was like, what if you're the coach, you've got to be like losing your mind on the sideline watching a play like that because you're like, you're not Patrick Mahomes, my guy. like that is That is not something that we do here. like Throw the ball away on third down and goal.
00:17:47
Speaker
It will take three and be down by three. I don't know. I just thought that was – that really like stuck in my craw. i just thought it was so crazy to do that. And think about this. you know he He throws that – I believe he was even falling maybe off of his back foot when he launched that thing to the end zone.
00:18:03
Speaker
before Colton Ferris after it kind of deflected around between two or three different sets of hands before Colton Ferris came down with the interception. You got to remember that next drive, Appalachian fumbles. J.J. Cole falls on the ball in the end zone for the safety.
00:18:19
Speaker
that makes it a 27-23 game. If you just throw that football away and kick the field goal, it's then 27-26, and that changes everything right on that last drive where Oregon State got the ball back.
00:18:35
Speaker
after the free kick simply because then you don't have to be in touchdown or nothing mode where they were down four. You could have settled and kicked a field goal and possibly won the game. Now, granted, you couldn't – hindsight's always 20-20. You could not predict the fact that the safety was going to happen, but that will make you sick even more knowing the safety came that was two free points that could have added on, and instead of 27-24, you have been sitting 27-26 game.
00:19:04
Speaker
Yeah, ah it was a it was a wild game. It was a good
UL Monroe vs. Northwestern: Offensive and Defensive Woes
00:19:07
Speaker
win for App. you know they They welcome in that Pac-12 conference right now. It's only two teams as of today, but yeah they're adding... Let's put that around. Yeah, it it's it's more like a gathering of friends more than it is like a conference. like you know the The conference title game would be about the saddest thing you've ever seen if they did put it on, but... ah Yeah, good one for app, like we said. um All right, so let's get into this next one here.
00:19:34
Speaker
ah Northwestern beats the living daylights out of UL Monroe. And I, I guess stupidly last week intimated that maybe UL Monroe had a shot in this game of making it something.
00:19:47
Speaker
But I will say my interest got the better of me when they walked down on the first series and scored a touchdown. And I was like, all right, well, if this is the kind of energy we're bringing to this game, like maybe I was onto something. Nope.
00:20:03
Speaker
I wasn't. ah Preston stone for Northwestern throws for two 62 and three scores. Um, Zeke, I so I looked this up.
00:20:15
Speaker
ah Aikman, we've been breaking in using ah PFF grades on our podcast for, you know, just kind of like trying to figure out like what what we might be missing, things like that inside the game.
00:20:26
Speaker
You'll never believe it. Aiden Armenta finished this week with the third highest passing grade in the conference. At 76.2, but his a dot was like five yards.
00:20:38
Speaker
So he basically doesn't throw the ball for again. he he won't he will not throw the ball past five yards essentially and it puts like a hard cap on this offense.
00:20:49
Speaker
You're muted. Splendid. We talked about this last week. um the The key to beating this UL ah yo Monroe team is kind of similar to what we saw from those really good Troy teams a couple years ago, where if you can force the quarterback, who is ah manageable...
00:21:10
Speaker
good enough can win you games quarterback. If you can force him to make plays, if you force him to pass the ball downfield and you do that either by blowing up the short game, the quick game, or by blowing up the run of which Northwestern did both in this game, ah you you put yourself and in such a good position to win because UL Monroe with Aiden Armenta and then they they rotated in Hunter Herring and landing graves for brief periods in this game as well.
00:21:37
Speaker
ah Just does not have a guy that is capable of really pushing the ball downfield, making those big time throws, putting on the Cape in those important moments. So when your offense is, or your run game is limited to 2.9 yards per carry,
00:21:52
Speaker
You know, you have to, you're behind the chains, you're off schedule, and you're asking Aiden Arment to go downfield. If you look at his passing, like his heat map, most of those, he went 10 for 9, or 10 for 19 rather, most of those interceptions came well beyond the chains.
00:22:08
Speaker
Right? And when you force him to make those plays, we've seen that he can't do it. This is the offensive issue. There's also this defensive issue where UL Monroe coming in actually had a pretty good defense, especially on the ground, but could not stop a nosebleed against Northwestern.
00:22:27
Speaker
And i ah this is one of those scenarios where we have to rely on PFF and have to rely on people who paid more attention or pay more attention to ULM on a week-to-week basis because I don't know what changed because ULM has had a good defense in recent weeks.
00:22:42
Speaker
This is a ULM team that coming into the this week was among the best run defenses in the conference. I believe it was the best by yardage, but consider that they've had early bye weeks.
00:22:54
Speaker
So there's this offensive half, and then there's this defensive half, and they didn't come together. And don't know. We've been high on ULM. We thought they've exceeded our expectations to some degree. um You know, this was not going to be the team that represented the West, but this is a team that was better than we thought.
00:23:15
Speaker
Could make a bowl game. Yeah, this was a bowl game type team, but... I mean, I think a lot of their weaknesses got exposed in that when they get behind, they can't catch up.
00:23:25
Speaker
um And for whatever reason, this defense is very exploitable. they They just, like you said, they were off schedule, but again, with Armenta, and you know i i haven't checked this week, so I don't know how it's been updated since, but heading into this week, they had the lowest graded set of receiving weapons on PFF, and it's not particularly close. like i looked There's like a pretty big gap between them and the next lowest team, which I think is like Coastal Carolina.
00:24:00
Speaker
Yeah. But yeah, i'm just you can't win playing like this. and i think they just got thoroughly outclassed by a team that's in a P5 conference, albeit they're the doormat of the Big Ten.
00:24:13
Speaker
But it there there is like a real... competition level difference of like, all right, we got to go play Illinois and Southern Cal and oh or ah Ohio State and Oregon every week.
00:24:26
Speaker
And we're going to play ULM. Sweet. Like is essentially, I think what Northwestern kind of thought going into this one. Aikman, I don't know if you have any thoughts on this one. If you, if you do, you could share them. And if not, we could just move to the next game.
00:24:38
Speaker
I'll just say after last week, because ULM, I kind of thought last week after the win over Arkansas State, I was like, okay, maybe they're finally starting to to find something here and and it could be a big step forward for the program. By no means did I expect them to go in and beat Northwestern.
00:24:57
Speaker
you know i kind of I was just hoping the game would be competitive, at least maybe for a half for ULM, you know, to build off that Arkansas State game. But it's really like Zeke said, because I agree with him 100 percent. This team has to play with a lead. If they get down, i don't think there's enough firepower here for them to catch up, much less you get them two scores down.
00:25:18
Speaker
And keep in mind, this Northwestern team lost to Tulane in week one by 20 points. So even there's like another level here that's even missing. It's like you guys are ULM is not even really on that two lane level, much less, you know, a big, that of a big 10 school. So yeah, I mean, until they figure out somebody else with the quarterback spot, get some more receiving options in there. Like they're just going to continue to have like this concrete ceiling that they just bounce off of and they can't, they can't do anything with it.
00:25:53
Speaker
Um, All right, so Zeke, let's transition to your game here. ah JMU, Georgia georgia State. i ah I watched a lot of the first half of this one.
00:26:05
Speaker
ah JMU was extremely sloppy, I thought. I think what Barnett finished was 74 yards passing for the game.
00:26:17
Speaker
i mean, he was missing guys left and right. They had like 90 yards and penalties in the first half. it It was just a... Aikman, what you said about the Lindenwood game...
00:26:29
Speaker
is probably how James Madison feels today about the Georgia State game. That was as close to a loss as a win could be, I felt like. Yeah, I mean, so a couple nuggets from this game. This is, first of all, the first time Dale McGee coach Georgia State team has allowed less than 20 points.
00:26:48
Speaker
This is also one of the fewest points scored by a JMU team under Bob Chesney. And we're still looking at 14-7 loss. um it It was frustrating to see throughout the first parts of the season, the Georgia State um experience was looking at the defense, which was the worst in the country, and saying, you're not even giving us a chance, right?
00:27:12
Speaker
Sure, we're not running the ball like we have in previous years. Sure, we're still doing this flip-flop thing at quarterback that even JMU has finally figured out how to move away from ah with Cameron Brown and TJ Finley.
00:27:24
Speaker
but defense, you're not even giving us a chance. And when you have this opportunity, you hold James Madison, which, as Aikman said, we're all in agreeance, is the premier team in the conference this season, to 14 points.
00:27:36
Speaker
That is the game that you have to win. And the team Georgia State's inability to do so... raises like these real concerns about Del McGee. um He had a quote, just overall bad coaching, ah talking about subbing too late in the play clock or not getting in play calls ah quick enough.
00:27:53
Speaker
Or how about being the most penalized team in the FBS this year? 15 penalties for 114 yards this year. ah This is from Brady Weiler on 247. Seven of those were false starts or pre-snap.
00:28:06
Speaker
Six of those 15 penalties in the fourth quarter. Four of those 15 penalties on the final drive of the game. These are like the really easy things that before we start addressing a relative lack of talent outside of Ted Hurst and a couple guys on the defense, ah you have to identify these things as real coaching issues.
00:28:27
Speaker
How about James Madison converting not one but two fake punts that were the exact same play? Exact same play. One of them came within their own territory. And so – It's just so frustrating to see this. Again, this is a Georgia State team whose ceiling, realistic ceiling, was a bowl game, was scraping into a bowl game and you know maybe hoping that you can beat a team out on your academic like GPA. that That's realistically what the ceiling was for this team coming into the year.
00:28:57
Speaker
um But this is just this is a huge, huge letdown to see the defense finally show up for this team and the offense just, I mean... Again, Ted Hurst is the superstar of this team ah on either side of the ball.
00:29:12
Speaker
And late in the game, you you throw him like a tunnel screen, at a you know, a short pass on third down late in the game. You need a big play from him, and he runs right into his offensive lineman. Same situation late in the game, third down.
00:29:26
Speaker
You need a big play. You throw a ball up to him, and it looks like it's going to be good. He's going to get under it. Excuse me. But TJ Finley can't even get it to him. you know It's well underthrown by five yards or so.
00:29:38
Speaker
um And so it is just such a major letdown that this could have been this could have been your Vanderbilt win of this season where you get to say, hey, there are some good things. There are some positives about this team that we can take away.
00:29:51
Speaker
um But I'm just incredibly deflated as a fan, and I can't imagine that anyone in Atlanta is – you know, more optimistic about it than I am, after this performance.
00:30:06
Speaker
So Aikman on the JMU side, they obviously continue to to run the ball, you know, at will seemingly their defense ah coming into this week was by total yardage, the third best in the, all of the FBS.
00:30:22
Speaker
I mean, they're there. this This is kind of what happens, right? So Barnett has these games where he, you know, is just not there. I don't know what happens to him. I don't know if he stays up too late the night before or eats some bad fish or like what what his deal is. But he has games like this. like Last year they played Georgia Southern, and he did this exact same thing.
00:30:46
Speaker
But obviously the Eagles were good enough to take advantage of it, and they went at home last year. This year, heat luckily for him, he does it in a game against the Panthers, and they're not good enough to take advantage of it.
00:30:58
Speaker
But he he's missing throws. um You know, from a play-calling perspective, there was that fourth down where they went for it, and they ran Sluka right up the middle, and he got stopped dead, which, side note...
00:31:13
Speaker
you got to come up with some more plays for Sluka. If he's in the game, i you can't run left, right, center, you know, with him and then expect that to be the playbook. It's like, guess what?
00:31:24
Speaker
The other team knows he's running the ball. Second, he checks in because he's lined up at quarterback. He, you won't let him throw the ball for reasons that kind of remain unclear to me as, as someone who's watching.
00:31:37
Speaker
um Yeah. I don't know. They got to get better with the play calling when he's in the game. Cause yeah, it It just feels like they're so like so talented like versus a lot of other teams in the conference. I think Old Dominion is the only other one that really even kind of holds a candle.
00:31:54
Speaker
But it Zeke, we talked about leaving meat on the bone with Old Dominion last week. It's like them and James Madison, like swapped bodies, like in Freaky Friday this week. Like it was JMU not taking advantage of opportunities. Old Dominion's crushing.
00:32:09
Speaker
You know, we'll get to the coastal game on the other side. And ironically, we got an email from a listener who asked us to talk more JMU. Well, it's like the monkey's paw curled and was like, okay, they'll talk more about JMU barely beating a a really bad Georgia State team and go into all the mistakes they made. So I don't know, man. Like we had a comment on our video last week that was like, pump the brakes on giving JMU the East. Like Bob Chesney is going to do some dumb stuff that's going to take you aback. And I was like, no, there's no way.
00:32:40
Speaker
I saw it. I saw it on Saturday. So I don't know. I think they can iron it out, definitely. But this was this was ugly. Aikman, do you have anything on this? Yeah, I was keeping up with this game yesterday, and it was one of those things I was like, you're not going to have a – I don't know that you're going to get a better chance to beat JMU if if you're a team like Georgia State in the Sun Belt. You had the chance yesterday to do it, and, you know,
00:33:10
Speaker
The old Dominion people are going to sitting there like, oh, you had the perfect chance to give us some breathing room in the East. And then it's just like they still find a way to pull it out. So credit the credit them there. But it's like, you know, with Barnett, you said it perfectly, Brian. It's like you don't know what version of this guy you're going to get on any given Saturday or Thursday night when they play.
00:33:35
Speaker
And if they just happen to be playing your team, you hope you get the version you got yesterday. Because, you know, if he plays like this against an old an old Dominion team in a couple weeks when they play each other,
00:33:48
Speaker
14-7 is not going to be in the ballpark if some things aren't done differently. that So JMU, maybe they you know they kind of got it out of their system yesterday. Maybe this is their one. Count their lucky stars just like the Lindenwood game with App and go on and you know take your win and and prepare for next week. But, yeah, it was a less than stellar performance for the Dukes.
00:34:14
Speaker
the ah The other thing too, ah I've been on the JMU Sports News podcast before, so shout out to them. They were talking on Twitter after this game a lot about how Barnett's home road splits are pretty bad.
00:34:30
Speaker
Like if you sit down and watch him play on the road, he's like markedly worse. And I thought about it and I was like, I was thinking through the games that I remember off the top of my head.
00:34:41
Speaker
Like, this game was on the road. Last year when they played Georgia Southern, on the road. You know, the Louisville game earlier this year, he was not great in... And they kept doing the quarterback switching. That was a road game. So it's like...
00:34:56
Speaker
That's something I'm definitely going to keep an an eye on because it feels like the rest of the team is there. It's not like one of those where it's like the whole team doesn't show up. It's literally like he doesn't get off the plane.
00:35:07
Speaker
And so I it's it's going to be something that we watch from here on because, you know, like I don't know where the ODU JMU game is, but if it's on the road. uh-oh, because that might be a real problem for the Dukes. and And that that's the hurdle to them getting to the Sunbelt title game is beating Old Dominion.
00:35:27
Speaker
um All right. Next game here, Arkansas State, Texas State. Uh... I watched a lot of this game, especially the second half. The first half was boring me to tears. I'm sorry, guys. Like
Arkansas State vs. Texas State: Jalen Rayner's Performance
00:35:40
Speaker
that.
00:35:40
Speaker
It was a bunch of short passes. It was Arkansas state, not being able to run the football. Jalen Rainer was the leading rusher for Arkansas state in this game.
00:35:53
Speaker
They, they can't run the ball with clay and Spencer and all these guys. Jaquez crosses out for the year. So that's, that's out the window. um this This game was nuts.
00:36:04
Speaker
There was 20 points scored in the final one minute and 20 seconds of the game, including... A touchdown that Rainer tosses.
00:36:17
Speaker
Then Texas State has a quarterback draw goes 73 yards on the first play after the kickoff. They score. And then with a minute left, Rainer walks down the field in like five plays with two timeouts.
00:36:31
Speaker
They don't use a single timeout. They walk all the way back down the field. And then he cashes in with seven seconds to go. And that was that was the ball game. Jalen Rainer was locked down.
00:36:42
Speaker
in in this game. They showed like the stats. His first half, he was like six of 12. Again, game was boring in the first half. I kept flipping to other stuff. I was like, let me see what else is going on.
00:36:54
Speaker
The second half, they put the stats up. He was like 16 of 18 passing in the second half. Like he was locked all the way in. In the fourth quarter alone, he went 16 for 16 for 147 and took five carries for 40 yards.
00:37:09
Speaker
ah He really put on the cape. It's nuts. yeah that That was one of the best drives, best individual drives or best individually led drives from a quarterback that we've seen, really, that I've seen in football in a long time.
00:37:23
Speaker
yeah i mean he That drive alone, but that fourth quarter as a whole, he really stepped up. But Arkansas State is going to continue... to get in these tight games.
00:37:34
Speaker
um And I, I believe Brian and and I, you and I have both said that we think they're going to continue to kind of lose these types of games until someone else steps up in the run game without Jaquez across because Kenyon Clay ain't doing it. He had a good game a couple of weeks ago.
00:37:50
Speaker
um But I think he, I think that one good game really came through the air for him. It it was as like a scat back type thing instead of really running the ball. Um, Texas State, same thing. It's like Brad Jackson was really good in this.
00:38:05
Speaker
Where's the rest of the team the rest of the three quarters? Where's the defense late in the game? We know neither of these teams really have much of a defense to speak of. That's kind of the the DNA of both of these squads. But um this is kind of – I mean, this is – we've seen this with G.J. Kinney, right? the At some point, he's going to G.J. Kinney again.
00:38:27
Speaker
And this was it. This was it. Yeah. um Aikman, I was on yeah ESPN earlier looking at this game because I was like making notes of like individual drives and stuff.
00:38:40
Speaker
The win probability chart looks like a roller coaster that wouldn't get approved by OSHA. like it's It's literally like a line that goes straight up for Arkansas State, and then it goes all the way down, and then it goes all the way back up again.
00:38:55
Speaker
it was It was nuts, and... and I agree with Zeke. There's something with G.J. Kinney where when he gets mentioned for these openings, like I think Oklahoma State, someone asked him about in a press conference, like these openings that are coming, you know, available for like P5s.
00:39:15
Speaker
that He's going to have games like this, and it's going to drive... If he gets that level of job, it's going to drive fans of the team nuts because he's got games where... they They have a mental lapse or something at the end or the effort just doesn't or the play calling doesn't seem to be there.
00:39:31
Speaker
There have been games where two years ago he was like in this weird beef with TJ Finley and like took him out at halftime when he wasn't hurt and like not really playing that poorly and they lose.
00:39:42
Speaker
There's just weird stuff with him all the way around. That's like. literally for Arkansas State, I mean, Jalen Rayner, like Zeke said, he put on the Superman cape.
00:39:53
Speaker
You take Jalen Rayner away from this game, it's not even close. Like, nobody, nobody else has a pulse. I mean, you look at the Arkansas State box score, and it's like, you might as well not pay attention anybody else but Jalen Rayner because he's the only one. I mean, if he could have caught the passes throwing to himself, yeah he probably would have.
00:40:18
Speaker
way to do it pretty much. I mean, chris he can take them as as far as Arkansas State's going to go. It's just I don't, you don't know what you're going to get with this team. It's like you said, you get the mental lapses, you get the, you know, you go from losing to Monroe, like you did to winning a game like this against Texas state. And it's just like, okay, you know, Jonesboro is its own unique roller coaster this season, which is the case. I think for a lot of Sunbelt cities this year, it's almost like you can pick out a handful of teams. I have stayed included in that. What,
00:40:53
Speaker
Everybody's just on this weird rollercoaster ride this year. Mm-hmm. Um... Yeah, the I will say i add this. Jalen Rayner finished this week with the highest PFF rushing grade in the conference of anybody, including running backs.
00:41:13
Speaker
ah he his His grade was at 85. So it really shows, you know, there are a couple of guys in this conference that can do this. There's like Braylon Braxton.
00:41:24
Speaker
There's ah Colton Joseph. There's Jalen Rayner, although Jalen Rayner's defense is so much worse than the other two guys. Like, I don't really blame him when they they end up blowing a game because I'm like, what what can you do? Like, you're going to ask him to play corner next, like to figure it out. Like, I, I truly don't know. But yeah, this was a great win for them.
00:41:44
Speaker
ah This also was one of the reasons why I was very, very hesitant on Texas State's over-under before the season was like seven and a half. And I was like, no.
00:41:56
Speaker
Because there's going to be games like this in there. and And that's the thing that they don't factor in is like, What about the game against Arkansas State when you let a guy walk down the field and go 80 yards in five plays and it took him 53 seconds?
00:42:12
Speaker
like what What happened there? so I guess that you can make the argument they're accounting for them, but it just doesn't feel like like that. um Yeah. I mean... I just want to jump in and continue to bang my drum that we've been banging for at least three years now.
00:42:27
Speaker
Jalen Rayner has kept Butch Jones in a job because this ah Butch Jones stuble stumbled onto him when J.T. Shrout was... wasn't cutting it. I don't remember if it was an injury or JT Trout really just was that bad ah in 2023.
00:42:43
Speaker
But since then, it's been all this team has only been Jalen Rayner. You get Corey Rucker, who actually showed up this week. We've been missing him the past several weeks, been a relative non-factor.
00:42:55
Speaker
um but But without Corey Rucker, without Jaquez Cross, without guys like that over the past several years, I mean, it is only, it has only been Jalen Rayner. And Butch Jones, when when you get bought out, you owe some of that to Jalen Rayner.
00:43:12
Speaker
And you think about this, too. There is not a single defensive difference maker from any of these seasons where Jalen Rayner has been starting that I can name off the top of my head.
00:43:25
Speaker
Not a single one. like it was It was crazy in the preseason. we were like We did the offense section, and then we got to the defense was like, um you got one guy here who had four and a half sacks last year.
00:43:38
Speaker
And that's basically the preview. It's like, they're going to allow a ton of points. They're going to allow a ton of yards. Like what, what can you add to that? Like it was the only, it felt like it was the only team that Phil steel in his magazine was like, I don't like this defense.
00:43:53
Speaker
And it's like, you never read him say, you never hear him say anything negative. And he's like, I don't like this defense at all. And I was like, wow, that, that I feel like says ah lot, but yeah, this was like the game of the year. I think in the Sunbelt, this was like one of the best games college football wise that you'll see, I think this season, just the way. I mean, this was a great game. Yeah. Uh,
00:44:19
Speaker
um all right i thought you had something else there then he kind of died out uh all right next game here uh this will be a quick one old dominion takes coastal to the woodshed um akeman i have one question for you here because we've been zeke and i have have very much been on the uh criticizing tim beck uh train for a while Why do you think he's still employed?
Coastal Carolina's Leadership Challenges
00:44:44
Speaker
do you Do you think it's just as simple as the buyout money that they don't want to pay him? Or like, cause there's, you can't do anything with this. Like the, the one win in conference they have is against South Alabama, who now looks like the stone worst team in the Sunbelt. They don't look like they're going to win a conference game at any point this year. I don't know if they play Georgia state.
00:45:06
Speaker
but, But why is Tim Beck still employed? Aikman, I give you the floor. Honestly, I guess it has to be the buyout because – da've It feels like they've been sitting soured on this guy forever now, from the start almost. It's what it feels like to me. I mean, NC State fans soured on him but by the time his tenure was over. I've got a really good friend of mine who is a diehard Wolfpack fan, very ingrained in that program, and they couldn't wait for him to be gone.
00:45:40
Speaker
they They were glad he was gone when he got the Coastal Carolina job. And you just watch – the fall off of what coastal Carolina was just a few short years ago to where they're at now. And it's mind boggling.
00:45:57
Speaker
I don't know. Maybe there's blackmail that we don't know about somewhere and it's keeping him employed in Conway. I don't know, but they've got to do something because this tenure has not been anything remotely close to what they had hoped or thought it would be.
00:46:12
Speaker
no I looked into my ah my browsing history here, Brian, and that's a place I rare seldom go. It's a dark place. But I searched Tim Beck buyout, and I've noticed a pattern that about every seven days at about this time every week, I've Googled Tim Beck buyout because we've talked about it pretty consistently through the first six weeks of this season.
00:46:40
Speaker
Yeah, what it what what can you say? like it but He hasn't identified a quarterback. The only time that he had success was when he had Grayson McCall for six or seven games in his first season.
00:46:54
Speaker
They looked okay with Vasco, and then we saw last year that that wasn't sustainable and wasn't going to be able to be replicated. There was that whole thing... there was this like PR push before the season where I read this online and I was like, okay, yeah, this is just like Sunbelt media day fluff.
00:47:12
Speaker
And then Phil steel came on and was like, they're simplifying the offense. And I'm like, it wasn't that complicated to me to start with it. What you're not running Andy Reed's playbook. Like it it's, it's strict spread. Like what is there to be confused about again, to use a ah previous coach's example, it's not Jamie Chadwell where you've got all these motions and there's option concepts dropped in.
00:47:35
Speaker
It should be straightforward. They just run and spread. They run inside zone from the shotgun. Like what, what is there to, to be confused about? I was just like, what?
00:47:48
Speaker
Uh, something actually before we do leave here though, we have to give, I think I'm finally ready to say it old dominion. We were wrong. We've seen Trey on Jones show up, uh, for the past several weeks.
00:48:01
Speaker
We're seeing guys around Colton Joseph finally start to perform. Um, and I was wrong and we got clowned for it in the preseason when we said there was nothing around him.
00:48:13
Speaker
Um, And we were wrong because there there are weapons. Naeem Abdulrahim Gladding has been really good this year. Trey Brown has been really good in the receiving core. Ja'Cory Thomas has been really good.
00:48:25
Speaker
There are weapons that we did not identify. um I've been really, really hesitant to give Old Dominion the, the hey, I'm sorry, because they've left me on the bone. they left ah We talked about this last week.
00:48:41
Speaker
There were points that I needed to see still out of this team before we were ready to say that it's not just heliocentric around Colton Joseph like we see at Arkansas State. Yeah.
00:48:53
Speaker
This really secured it for me, and I feel comfortable for the first time saying Old Dominion has a complete offense that is, you know, they greatly benefit from Colton Joseph, but that is no longer, I say that no longer ah as a demeaning statement that, oh, well, you have Colton Joseph. Well, now it's, I mean, it's like the old Chiefs, right?
00:49:14
Speaker
Well, you've got Kareem Hunt, and you've got Tyree Killian, you've got Travis Kelsey. Oh, and by the way, you also have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah. um Just two last things before we move on from this
Old Dominion's Offensive Potential
00:49:26
Speaker
game.
00:49:26
Speaker
um Colton Joseph finished with the best passing grade per PFF in the conference with 83.1. Tad Hunson finished dead last this this week with anybody that had more than 10 attempts, 47.6. They...
00:49:39
Speaker
forty seven point six they We had gotten some of this Ted Hudson like steam heading into the bowl game last year because it felt like everybody was ready to be done for Coastal, was ready to be done with the Vasco, Noah kim you know, whoever else.
00:49:57
Speaker
And everybody was like, it's going to be Hudson. It's going to be Hudson for the bowl game. We can't wait. He turned in an awful bowl game and we were Zeke and I were kind of laughing on that episode. he's not been good this year at all. Like he had one respectable game against South Alabama where they won.
00:50:13
Speaker
Other than that, he's been a liability for them. so This is just like a a whole team that is just not ready for this level of competition with Tim Beck.
00:50:24
Speaker
um Like Zeke said, every every Sunday at 8 o'clock, he's logging into his browser and typing Tim Beck buyout and trying to figure out when he's going to get canned. I mean, it's it's just a matter of time. But let's transition off of that by saying another guy who might be fireable at this point looks to be Major Applewhite because...
00:50:47
Speaker
i I don't know what's going on in mobile. Like they, they need to go figure it out because it's Bishop Davenport is obviously not Gio Lopez. He's not going to be Gio Lopez from years past.
00:51:00
Speaker
He's not even, i mean, he threw for 104 yards in a game that had 61 combined points and went to overtime. He barely broke a hundred yards passing.
00:51:14
Speaker
Um, um, I don't know. yeah This is a, like a little tidbit nugget. Uh, Troy had four sacks from four different players. That's not the nugget. The nugget is South Alabama guard. Amoree Wiggins had the lowest blocking grade of anybody in the, in the sunbelt this week that took more than 20 snaps.
00:51:37
Speaker
Uh, his grade was 34 out of a hundred. Um, um he's he The crazy thing, too, is he's kind of the only link weak link when you look at that on PFF.
00:51:49
Speaker
It's like a bunch of guys in the 60s and 70s, and then he's way down here. So I don't think he's the one that's making the difference, but Troy keeps leaning on Tay Meadows in these big spots. He scores two game-winning touchdowns in the last two games that they've won.
00:52:05
Speaker
you know Maybe they're figuring some stuff out. Kill crease looks better. Do you know this is the first time under Gerard Parker that Troy's had an overall above 500 record?
00:52:18
Speaker
I believe that. I mean, yeah this is what, year two? I guess it is only year two, but at three and two, savor it while you can. ah Tucker Kilcreece, hats off because this is his revenge game.
00:52:29
Speaker
I don't remember know if you remember last year's ah battle for the belt, but that was the game that he got benched for Matthew Caldwell. Oh yeah. And so he comes out, mind you, doesn't light the world on fire 13 for 21 with two Oh three, two touchdowns and interception, but does run 19 times 102 yards.
00:52:49
Speaker
um Congratulations, Chuck Kielcrease. You're finally consistently – I guess he was consistently the quarterback for most of last year before they got the pull to Caldwell. But um South Alabama, I found in play calling, was way too conservative.
00:53:05
Speaker
I understand that you have Contrell Bullock, who's really, really good, and you've got ah Bishop Davenport, who's pretty mobile, who's pretty But I found their play calling, again, they're trying to follow that ULM archetype where you lean on your defense and you lean on a good run game to to make up for what could be subpar quarterback play.
00:53:28
Speaker
um We've seen flashes from Bishop Davenport, but I think at this point we're pretty, you know, his cap is 17 completions, 180 yards. That type of a stat line is kind of his ceiling on a week to week basis.
00:53:42
Speaker
But the defense is not nearly good enough. And the run game is not nearly good enough. Again, control book is exceptional. um But his his longest rush in this game was nine yards. Now I know I play the game of take away his longest rush.
00:53:56
Speaker
And then look at his yardage numbers. But there is value. You need to have 10 yard rushes. You need to have those 15 yard rushes in order to provide your team an out that when you lose a yard on first and 10 and you don't have to look to Bishop Davenport, you can say, all right, control, go run it for 12 yards now. Right.
00:54:16
Speaker
ah Major Applewhite. Same deal. I've not looked it up quite as often, but we're getting, ah you know, what's his buyout looking like? Mm hmm. He's obviously not the answer ah as as a coach. um
00:54:32
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know what's missing because I thought in spurts last year that Davenport played pretty well. Like he showed up in that bowl game and and played fairly well. But this year, i don't know if there's like a change in like scheme or they've lost players or whatnot. But it's like Zeke, it's like what you said. You know, they ran for 214 yards as you know, between Bullock, Davenport and Phillips.
00:54:58
Speaker
But if you can't throw it for more than 105 yards, unless you run the triple option like wing T style, this this that's you can't win at the at the FBS level thrown for under 105 yards. It just doesn't... There are guys that thrown for 105 yards in the first quarter of their games.
00:55:18
Speaker
So, I mean... I don't know. Aikman, what, what, how do you feel about the way that like, what, ah what is, what is going to happen with the South Alabama team? You think like, you think they're going to win like two games and then fire Applewhite?
00:55:33
Speaker
I mean, you look at that schedule of what they've got left. You've got the Arkansas State game coming up. And as long as, you know, it's winnable, but you just got to hope that j Jalen Rainer's not playing Superman because if he's in Superman mode, good luck with that.
00:55:49
Speaker
You know, you but you play Georgia State. To me, the Georgia State game is the marker for South Alabama. If you lose to Georgia State, you might as well go ahead fire Major Applewhite when you leave Atlanta. Like, don't – let's just get that out of the way. I mean, you lose to Georgia State, then you still – you've got to play Louisiana.
00:56:09
Speaker
You've got Louisiana Monroe. You've got Southern Miss, Texas State. I mean – One, maybe two wins at best for South Alabama, the way they look the rest of the season. you know and And honestly, two wins may be generous at this point with what they have left. I mean, so...
00:56:31
Speaker
I'm just – I didn't expect one in five. I mean, granted, Gio Lopez went on to – I'm going to put quotations again around greener pastures at Carolina, and it got him killed and put on the injury shelf for Max Johnson yesterday.
00:56:46
Speaker
But – This team could use Gio Lopez Gio Lopez wasn't broke. Gio Lopez is not the version people have seen in Chapel Hill.
00:56:57
Speaker
He's a much better quarterback because he was a fit in that South Alabama system with the running back play that South Alabama has as well. It just goes to show you when you take a quarterback of Gio Lopez's ability away from that football team, just how much it changes regardless of who you still have at running back.
00:57:19
Speaker
Yeah.
00:57:21
Speaker
I don't know. It seems like, you know, Tim Beck and Applewhite both have kind of their days numbered here as as coaches in
Sunbelt Championship Predictions
00:57:29
Speaker
the Sun Belt. But that will pretty much do it for this episode where we recap week six.
00:57:35
Speaker
Aikman, let everybody know where they can find you on socials and then we'll throw it over to Zeke and I'll close out. Guys, thanks so much again for having me. I really do appreciate it. As always, at Radio Guy AC on Twitter, you can find me there ah with anything and everything between App State stuff and then own local high school podcast that I do as well. I share on there. So just follow me. Love interacting with people on there. I love the Sunbelt talk during college football weekends like this. And
00:58:11
Speaker
One thing I will add real quick, because I didn't add it when we were talking about it, right now I am solely on the Old Dominion train out of the East. I think they've got enough.
00:58:22
Speaker
so if old If JMU shows up and plays anywhere close to they did yesterday in two weeks, the game will not be close with Old Dominion, just my opinion.
00:58:34
Speaker
i just – I think Old Dominion – hello just has it this year. It may be their year to get it done because I've thought this from the start of the season. I don't think whoever comes out of the West is going to challenge JMU, Old Dominion, whoever that may be out of the East.
00:58:53
Speaker
I feel like whoever wins the East, That was pretty much your Sunbelt Championship game. I wish it could kind of be JMU and Old Dominion in the Sunbelt Championship game just because I do feel like they are – it's cut and dry. They are the two best
Conclusion and Social Media Plugs
00:59:09
Speaker
teams in this conference right now. But, again, thanks again, guys. Love listening every week to you guys.
00:59:15
Speaker
And I really appreciate you having me back on. Yeah, man. Well, thanks thanks for coming on. ah We always love to hear ah perspectives of other people, folks that are following teams that we don't follow as closely because at the end of the day, obviously, Brian and I have our own teams. Although, Brian, as we established last week, I think his ship is ah he's OK missing a couple games now. And I'm getting to that point, too, with Del McGee. um Yeah, you can find me on Twitter at Zeke Palermo, Z-E-K-E-P-A-L-E-R-M-O.
00:59:48
Speaker
um Yeah, you can follow the show on Twitter at Warm Weather Fans. You can email the show, warmweatherfans at gmail.com. You can find me on Twitter at WatchTheStone. Zeke, I've got an App State tidbit for you, and I don't even know if Aikman's fully aware of this or not.
01:00:03
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So that the App State like fan forum, Aikman, it's called Joseph's Cabin, right? yeah okay i don't know if you know this if you like myself are registered user of gsu fans the georgia southern version your ip is banned by yosef's cabin you cannot even view past the opening page of the site yeah they've got ip bands in place if you have an account they've scraped your ip and added it to a ban list like automatically um because last year i was just amazing
01:00:39
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I was just trying to figure out what was the deal with the coaching situation after Clark got fired. So I went on, tried to go on you guys' the site, and it was like, you are permanently banned. Please leave.
01:00:50
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Here's a link to Google or whatever. and I was like, oh, okay. Wow. ah It's amazing what you can accomplish, even if you live in the mountains of North Carolina. They still know their way. We're not just, you know, some people like to think we're just sitting on the back deck, you know, with a glass of whiskey and a shotgun and everything else singing mountain music.
01:01:12
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And while we may do that for a large portion of our day, we can still get around a computer and know how to do some backdoor stuff. Yeah, I just thought that was so funny when I saw that happen. I've never been to a site that banned me before I ever went there.
01:01:27
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um So that was that was fun. But yeah, Aikman, as always, great to have you on, man. thanks for Thanks for taking the time. And this has been another edition of One With The Fans.