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2025 Sun Belt Football: Week 12 Recap
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Brian and Zeke are back this week to talk over all of the week 12 action, including Georgia Southern defeating Coastal Carolina in a 45-40 shootout.
Elsewhere, the pair talk over a bunch of blowouts, including James Madison's destruction of App State, Old Dominion detonating Troy on Thursday night, and how vulnerable Southern Miss looks without Braylon Braxton.
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Week 12 Highlights and Lowlights
00:00:17
Speaker
Welcome everybody into another edition of Warm Weather Fans. My name is Brian Stone, joined this week again by Zeke Palermo as we go over all of the Week 12 action in the Sunbelt. ah Zeke, we basically had, i want to say like one good game this week that was relatively close.
00:00:36
Speaker
A lot of blowouts. Unfortunately, couple quarterback injuries that we don't really know what the future holds on those. We'll get into all of those as we as we kind of run down the games. But what what do you think your biggest like takeaway from this week was?
Sunbelt West Division Race
00:00:52
Speaker
um I think, I don't know if it's necessarily a takeaway, but the biggest angle is that we still have a race in the West. It's actually a three-dog race ah led by Southern Miss and Troy, but Arkansas State still has hope here.
00:01:06
Speaker
And the final two weeks are going to be interesting. I think what i anticipate ultimately happening is being the Southern Miss-Troy season finale, being our conference semifinal, so to speak.
00:01:18
Speaker
But... I, this race could have ended a lot sooner, especially the way that Southern Miss has kind of handled every other team. But as you mentioned, the quarterback injuries, um,
00:01:32
Speaker
are really going to change how the golden Eagles kind of have an outlook over the next couple weeks. And same thing with Troy. We finally got to see goose Crowder again after, you know, a full season practically of Tucker kill crease. So that changes it a lot for them in that regard. um it It'll be an interesting run in that,
00:01:51
Speaker
I don't know. I think I've definitely been wishy-washy on. There are some weeks where I think I've thought that that Troy Southern Miss game was going to be ah semifinal, but there some weeks where it's looked like Southern Miss is in a class of its own, at least within the West.
James Madison's Dominance
00:02:03
Speaker
um And this is all, of course, futile because whoever has to go play James Madison is just going to get stomped on.
00:02:10
Speaker
Yeah. um So that actually is a good kind of transition. um I'm going to go ahead and give you kind of my take. I think if if Braxton is not, and this this is talking about Troy, because obviously they got beat 33-0 on Thursday night ah in a game that they were...
00:02:33
Speaker
not really that competitive in. I mean, this game was like not close for the most part. I mean, old dominion jumped on, jumped on them with 20 points in the first half and Troy couldn't do anything. And this again, we're, we're kind of back to like the,
00:02:53
Speaker
I still don't know if jar Jared Parker's like the guy in in Troy for to be their like kind of head coach that takes them to the next level. I'm still, I've, I've felt this way the whole time. You know, we went back and and talked over their winning streak and the teams that they played in that and how bad all of those teams are and how they basically just got to feast on what was the lower division of the Sunbelt or the low, you know, in the standings
Troy's Offensive Challenges
00:03:20
Speaker
lower half. Yeah. Yeah.
00:03:21
Speaker
Yeah, and you get to see on Thursday, what does it look like when they play an actual football team that is, like, good at football and has a quarterback and, like, can score some points? And it's like...
00:03:32
Speaker
Not good. um And i I think we're back. i've I've never left this corner. I kind of conceded a little bit, but I'm still on the on the thing of like, if Braxton's healthy, Southern Miss is dog walking this Troy team.
00:03:50
Speaker
And if Braxton's not healthy and it's Liddy, i I don't even really want to watch the Troy Southern Miss game with Goose Crowder dueling it out with Landry Liddy to see who gets the honor of losing by 60 points in the Sunbelt title game.
00:04:05
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it's a tough position. i Troy was, as you said, absolutely outclassed offensively, got nothing done. Goose Crowder finished 11 for 21.
00:04:16
Speaker
You get a little bit of Tucker Killcrease two for two in this game. um But it I mean, from an offensive standpoint, ah Nine sacks. We made jokes a couple weeks ago. Was it Arkansas State that just dropped seven sacks out of nine sacks is obscene and yeah and entirely, entirely...
00:04:34
Speaker
entirely Like, that's malpractice. That is that that is really... the Someone's going to get hurt ah in that in that regard.
Old Dominion's Performance
00:04:44
Speaker
And then offensively, obviously, all the miss or ah old old the miss Old Dominion has been playing this kind of ah magic act where some weeks it looks like they are one of the most interesting and most fun offenses in the league or in really the nation. And then some weeks they kind of...
00:05:03
Speaker
disappear on us. um i this This just exposes the real flaws in Troy that they've they've got the weapon or they have the skill. I think the quarterback, Tucker Kilcrease, had some really interesting weeks and I think is an interesting idea at quarterback.
00:05:19
Speaker
um there There are some offensive weapons that, like Tay Meadows, um Rara Thomas, Jordan Lovett has been good. There are some interesting pieces, but...
00:05:32
Speaker
Much like Louisiana, it does not matter. It doesn't matter what skill you have if those guys up front can't do their job. um This was an embarrassment, and it's awesome that we're putting our best and brightest on Thursday nights.
00:05:46
Speaker
Well, okay, so i I disagree with you a little bit as far as Kilcris goes, because I think, again, when you now look back at the the winning streak, you go, okay, he really lit up some like bad teams during that. anyway It was you know Texas State, he he played really well in, but then there have been games recently where the they won a couple of weeks ago, but he didn't play very well last week. They lost and he didn't play well against Arkansas state, I believe.
00:06:17
Speaker
And this week it's like, it does not matter. if They do not have a quarterback that can elevate them to the level of the top teams when they're all healthy, like in the East West division doesn't really matter.
00:06:34
Speaker
um, when you have, you remember, what was it? Gunnar Watson a couple, couple of years back. I don't think that he was ever in contention for the best quarterback in the Sunbelt, but the team around him was just so well built and coached that it didn't ultimately matter of a lot, a lot of times. And they won two Sunbelt titles. so who you know, who can really argue this team is not built like that. The 2025 Troy team is not insulating the quarterback,
00:07:04
Speaker
the way that the previous teams did with gutter Watson, where it was like, you never really had to see gutter Watson play from behind that much. Cause defensively they were giving up what, like 16 points a game usually.
00:07:16
Speaker
And so it's like, okay, if they score once they're right back in it. ah When, when, yeah when they had, you know, summer all and all those guys. Now you get down 10 points, all of a sudden everybody's just starts looking around being like,
00:07:30
Speaker
Is Kilcrease going to make a play? Is Goose Crowder coming back in? Are we going to be able to run the ball? Are any of our receivers going to step up in a big spot? You know, you mentioned Rah-Rah Thomas. i don't I don't put this loss solely on him or anything, but two catches for 20 yards.
00:07:46
Speaker
Your leading receiver was Roman Mothershed with 37 yards receiving. Goose Crowder was bad. Kilcrease finished two of two for 14 yards. um
00:07:58
Speaker
ah I guess I have more to say on the old dominion side of this than I do Troy but this is who i thought Troy was the whole time where it was like those wins are nice but if you had to play if you had to reroll and with another team schedule like let's say you had to play old dominion schedule or something like that I i think this team would be much closer to like a four win team ultimately. Like they, they have not, they've been able to dodge a lot of the, the real contenders like in the Sunbelt.
00:08:30
Speaker
Uh, they have, uh, and, But I think, like, to push back on the kill crease idea, ah what we saw in really bad games against, again, pretty poor defenses, South Alabama, Texas State was kind of in that run as well.
00:08:46
Speaker
um You had ULM as well. So, again, as you said, not the creme de la creme of our conference, but...
00:08:56
Speaker
what we saw in those games was something that guys like Bishop Davenport, I think is another, is kind of a good comparison where has a similar schedule, has a similar interesting, but you know, there's no that guy around him offensively.
00:09:12
Speaker
And it it start it's all because of the offensive line that I think we don't get to see that Tucker Kilcrease flashes. ah This team is allowed, I just looked at 43 sacks
Troy's Inconsistent Wins?
00:09:22
Speaker
all year.
00:09:22
Speaker
The next nearest in the conference, we're looking at 25. You're nearly double the next closest team in sacks allowed. And obviously part of that does fall to the quarterback, right? This is part partly ah Tucker Kilcrease.
00:09:36
Speaker
It's not like they're just letting guys through. Please come on, sack our quarterback. There's a level of holding on to the ball to some degree. um But you're you're working from so far behind. You're so – like while everyone else is on second or third, you're still walking up to the plate here in that sense. And so I'm interested to see what Tucker Kilcrease does. I don't know if he has a job next year here or elsewhere, but – um that that's where I really get this idea that he he's shown flashes that other guys, Bishop Davenport being one that we really haven't seen.
00:10:10
Speaker
I mean, I wouldn't accuse Bishop Davenport of being a great quarterback either. i think it is a little bit where, you know, ah not trying to take the wind out of your sails, but that's that's where I stand on that.
00:10:22
Speaker
I think he's best comparable because we did the PFF breakdown of of Louisiana weeks back. I think you can compare him and him and lunch Winfield's situations pretty comparatively. Like you've got a pretty forgettable receiving core.
00:10:39
Speaker
you You don't have much of a run game a lot of times, or if you do, you know, it looks good like in game, but then you look back at it and it's like, oh, Tay Meadows had 68 yards on 15 carries and a score like it's he's not lighting up the box score.
00:10:55
Speaker
And then I've seen more out lunch this year behind, again, a bad offensive line, not great weapons, no not a ah great running game because of the offensive line.
00:11:07
Speaker
I've seen more flashes out of him than have out of Crowder, Killcrease, whoever they want to throw out there. So I think that... i I think if you took lunch and you put him on a better built team, you would be closer to like a six win team like this kind of Troy team is.
00:11:28
Speaker
But.
00:11:30
Speaker
Kill crease again, he he can't elevate he Crowder, whoever they want to throw out there. They do not elevate what the team has, whereas I feel like. the the ultimate win results don't show it, but lunch has played better with the same kind of situation.
00:11:48
Speaker
Individually, he's played better. The team is not better, but ah he has played better with kind of the same situation around him. And for that is kind of why I'm like, I can kind of see the diamond in the rough argument with lunch where I can't really see that argument unless again, Troy would have to play Texas state 12 times for me to be like, okay. All right. Like I see, I see what you got here. Like you don't sure play the worst defense every single week.
00:12:16
Speaker
So yeah, I know that's legitimate. You said you had something on old dominion out of this game. Yeah, they finally, everybody else stepped up around Colton Joseph and didn't make him run the entire show.
00:12:27
Speaker
ah you know You had Devin Roche, 145 yards rushing. Traquan Jones, 96 yards on nine carries, including a 65-yard rush.
00:12:38
Speaker
Colton Joseph did arguably better with his legs than he did with his arm. He only completed half of his passes for 147 yards and a score. But again, when you run for, as a team, and and again, this is including sack yardage and all that kind of stuff.
00:12:55
Speaker
As a team, when you run for seven and a half yards of carry, you don't really have to throw the football, which has been what ah you know a lot of other teams that have really, really bad run defenses, ah the Georgia schools namely, have dealt with this year is like, we can't even force the other team to throw the ball.
00:13:14
Speaker
So we're not we're not even able to take advantage of like any potential mistakes because it's just truly like... They're just running the ball right at the middle, and we have no answers for it. So this has been the first one of the first couple times this year that Old Dominion has said, you know what, Colton, you've done a lot for us this year.
00:13:34
Speaker
Use your legs, cash in a couple of touchdowns. we we don't We don't need you to be to put on the cape and be Superman. And and for that, I'm like... good because again, your quarterback can get hurt in the vein of a Samari Collier or a Braylon Braxton. And it's like, if that happens,
00:13:54
Speaker
I mean, you're probably not winning another game, maybe. Like, I i don't know if Hennicle is a good passer because they don't give him the opportunities. But he had one good game kind of at the end of last year when Colton Joseph was hurt, but he still didn't throw the ball that much. He he had more, like, rushing yards than he had passing yards. So credit to Old Dominion. they they so The rest of the team stepped up around him, and then you mentioned the nine sacks on defense. Like, you can't you can't beat that.
00:14:22
Speaker
No, obviously not. i think... um I don't...
00:14:29
Speaker
It's curious to me, and we'll find out, I guess, over the next two weeks, if this is the new norm, if this is what we've been waiting for out of ah the rest of the old Dominion offense, because the storyline has been all year, who's going step up. This is their first time ah with a 100-yard rusher.
00:14:46
Speaker
We're talking since mid-September. ah This is their only third time all year with 100-yard rusher that wasn't Colton Joseph. um And so...
00:14:59
Speaker
i this is what we saw earlier in the year. And it, when it was still kind of a two dog race between them and James Madison, then obviously James Madison just came out and flattened them and it wasn't particularly close, but this brings me back to like the Marshall game where Marshall was able to put a stop on Colton Joseph and the rest of the team just kind of deteriorated around him.
00:15:24
Speaker
And they ended up ultimately losing that game. You end this season with one conference loss if these guys, Devin Roche, Traquan Brown, um is it Trey Jones III?
00:15:39
Speaker
Yeah, Trey Brown, ah the receiver. he's He's been good, as has Naheem Abdul-Gladding all year. But when if these guys had shown up in that Marshall game, we're looking at a one conference loss team that is like – flirting with received votes because their only losses are to James Madison in number one, number two, Indiana.
00:16:00
Speaker
Well, if the rest of the team steps up, then maybe you don't get blanked in the second half of the JMU game too. It's certainly possible. like They got outscored like 35-0 in the second half. like They didn't score a single point.
00:16:13
Speaker
we We talked about it when um Jack Fitzpatrick came on. Old Dominion had like 10 yards of offense or something after
Old Dominion's Missed Opportunities
00:16:20
Speaker
halftime in that game. Like, so when everybody jumps on us, you know, let's let's say everything remains the same. It's it's Colton Joseph's back next next season. He doesn't transfer out.
00:16:32
Speaker
They bring comparable weapons. When everybody jumps down our throat, next year and we do the preview and we say this is a good team but are they going to be able to compete with like the true contenders in the in the Sunbelt I just want to go back and point in the JMU game and go I know JMU was really really good last year however that second half is the difference between being a real real contender and being like there's a term like people use in like UFC of like gatekeeper.
00:17:04
Speaker
Like if someone wants to be a contender, they have to beat you, but you're not, you're not really like going to compete for like a title. So there are, you know, levels to like, you can't, you can't honestly step up and like challenge someone for the title. Like you're going to be kind of at, at your level, like water finds its level, but that,
00:17:25
Speaker
Someone has to beat you and Jamie, you did that. ah You know, Marshall did that. But now we've we kind of understand what Marshall is a little bit. But it's just it's one of those things. It's like they need more people to step up. And we've kind of been beating that drum since the before the preseason.
00:17:42
Speaker
And it's it's nice that they did it in this game, but those are the reasons they haven't been able to win those two games that really kind of careened their season off a cliff. As far as as far as the conference race, like they'll make a bowl game.
00:17:55
Speaker
they'll They'll get to do all that nice stuff. But yeah, they're they're not this that that's the reason they're not with the JMUs of the world is because they can't get everybody to kind of come together and and ah produce all at the same time in games that like really, really matter.
00:18:10
Speaker
ah But yeah, great job in this one. You mentioned Trey Brown, five catches 112. ah Despite only you completing half of his passes, ah Colton Joseph finished with the third highest PFF passing grade this week.
00:18:26
Speaker
ah his yards per tent was 7.4 and his a dot was 12.9. twelve point nine So he was pushing it down the field. And again, you could do that when you know, Hey, this other team can't, can't do anything. They can't score.
00:18:40
Speaker
So, yeah. Uh, so yeah, that was a good, good win on Thursday for old dominion. Um, all right. So starting with the Saturday games, this was yours. Marshall defeats Georgia state 30 to 18. Uh,
00:18:55
Speaker
ah
00:18:58
Speaker
TJ Finley. Give me, give me, what were your thoughts so on TJ Finley on, on Saturday? Um, anyone other than Cameron Brown was going to be a no contest.
00:19:10
Speaker
Uh, I think Georgia state was always going to lose this game. um But anyone other than Cameron Brown, it was like, wait it was never going to be a fight. um So TJ Finley did what we expected through, I think, two interceptions, had a fumble, um was not great through the air, um did nothing on the ground.
00:19:31
Speaker
ah The highlights from a Georgia State perspective, and it's funny that at the end of the year, when we reflect on the 12-game season, these will probably be the two highlights of the season.
00:19:43
Speaker
is you set a ah school record with a 92-yard rush from Jordan Simmons, 92-yard rushing touchdown, and then ah you hit a 60-yarder right at the buzzer, Braden McAllister, who is not usually the kicker. It's Liam Rickman.
00:19:59
Speaker
um I don't know if he's just got the leg or what, but sets a program record with a 60-yard field goal. Those were electric moments um that will ultimately be forgotten in a 1-11
Georgia State's Struggles
00:20:10
Speaker
season.
00:20:11
Speaker
um yeah Yeah, Dale McGee finishes his first two seasons more than likely without a home Sunbelt win, ah with likely the only Sunbelt win through his first few years coming at Texas State ah last year.
00:20:26
Speaker
yeah. Yeah, Panthers finish off with Troy and Old Dominion. um no matter Again, we spoke at Nauseam about some of the deficiencies. Troy has defensive line being the primary one and then just kind of some weird – but just bodies at really a lot of the offensive skill positions, that's enough to score 35 here.
00:20:47
Speaker
um From a Marshall perspective, though, i think this was – yeah Congratulations to beat Georgia State, but hey, Carlos Del Rio Wilson doing what he's done. He's turned into a really, really great quarterback for them. Toby Payne shows up up in this one. Five catches for 110. He's been ah important for them for a couple years now.
00:21:06
Speaker
And over the past couple weeks, it's kind of taken a downturn to like a 30, 40-yard receiving guy. um So it's good to see him jump back up. not a ton of like long-term observations out of this one.
00:21:18
Speaker
ah Just, I think both teams did what was expected that being Georgia state show up um and host the event and Marshall win the game.
00:21:30
Speaker
um You talked about the long rush from ah Jordan Simmons. He was the fourth highest graded ah running back per PFF this week.
00:21:41
Speaker
so 19 carries 164 yards and a score. Was it all just that one rush that kind of powered it or was he just kind of ripping off chunk gains like at will?
00:21:53
Speaker
I mean, he was good. He was good in this game. This was a, I think his first, uh, a hundred yard game of the season. I know for certain his first hundred yard game of the season. Um,
00:22:06
Speaker
Not really. that This was just a volume yardage, and it's propped up by the 92. It's not like he was running all over Marshall here. um I also – is a little bit of a where has this guy been because over the past three weeks, he's been putting up pretty good numbers.
00:22:21
Speaker
I think he had 77 last week and maybe 50 and change the week before, maybe even more. um So it does feel in this offense where we've lacked identity, and obviously that was – Very turbulent quarterback situation through the early weeks where we tried Christian Valera again, and then it became TJ Finley, and then it was Cameron Brown and TJ Finley at the same time, and then it finally became Cameron Brown, and now we're back to TJ Finley because we don't know how long Cameron Brown's going to be out.
00:22:48
Speaker
um So, you know, with that turbulence, and then obviously you know you have Ted Hurst, but who else in that receiving game is a real option, so... It feels like, where's this guy been, Jordan Simmons? but um And it's obviously frustrating. I think he's a fifth or maybe even sixth year senior, so it's not like we get to roll that into next season. But I don't know. As we play Troy, as we play South Al, something to keep it a little interesting.
00:23:15
Speaker
Yeah, for sure. ah You mentioned Toby Payne. He had a great game. ah DeAndre Tamarez, four catches for 79 yards. um Yeah, man. Marshall just handled them. You know, Demarcus Lacey caught a touchdown. Adrian Norton caught a touchdown. Like,
00:23:32
Speaker
Just handled Georgia State, although, you know, i honestly thought when the game kind of started, I was like, wow, this is closer than I originally had anticipated. And then Marshall just kind of leaned on him and and felt like they just pulled away, you know, yeah especially in the second quarter.
00:23:49
Speaker
It was 7-7 through most of the first half. um Marshall didn't score to go up 14-7 until pretty late in the second. um But then they were able to double dip because Georgia State punted really quickly.
00:24:03
Speaker
Um, so they double dip and then you end the half with the 60 yard field goal. So it was 21 to 10 going into halftime. And you think, again, that was closer than I would have anticipated at halftime.
00:24:16
Speaker
But, um, Marshall just kind of runs away with it or state scores a touchdown in the third quarter. And again, has a chance after making a stop to kind of double dip and keep it a game. But then TJ Finley takes a third down sack and you're like, all right, well, that's why we took Cameron Brown instead of you. And here we are.
00:24:35
Speaker
All right. Well, good for Marshall picking up that win there.
Marshall's Path to Success
00:24:39
Speaker
You know, ah they play. Do they play JMU in the finale or have they? they No, they already played JMU. My bad.
00:24:50
Speaker
I was trying to remember who their last two games are against because they might be 6-6. They might be 7-5. Right. they They play App and Southern, Georgia Southern.
00:25:02
Speaker
That's right. Those are two winnable games. Yeah, they'll probably win both of those games. ah All right. This next one here, we there's a lot to go over in James Madison App State.
00:25:14
Speaker
ah and Not a lot of it good. Not if it, well, it depends on if you're a James Madison fan or not. This is one of those box scores that like, if you're the JMU defensive coordinator, I'd print this thing out and like hang it on my wall.
00:25:31
Speaker
ah Okay, so to put it in perspective, James Madison obviously routed him. It was 58 to 10. Um, AJ Swan played most of the game.
00:25:43
Speaker
He went eight of 28 for 64 yards and in in a pick. Um, I texted friend of the show, Aikman chambers. He let me know.
00:25:54
Speaker
JJ Cole was not hurt. It was just a coach's decision to play AJ Swan the last couple of weeks. And you see how this went. Um, um, James Madison outrushed app as a team, three 24 to one.
00:26:11
Speaker
App State had but one rushing yard on 15 carries net. You know, they count sack yardage or whatever. So it's like the Binion had 25 yards on 10 carries and Swan lost 24 yards on sacks.
00:26:25
Speaker
So they had net one rushing yard. um James Madison had a guy in Joby Mallory ru score three touchdowns on eight carries and go over 100 yards.
00:26:38
Speaker
um Wayne Knight had 94 yards on the ground and a score. Sluka came in late and played ah and and scored a touchdown and had 70 yards rushing ah on four carries.
00:26:51
Speaker
They just, I mean, this is a total destruction of app. I will say, after I saw the photo that we retweeted from the app state account with Dow logins on the sideline talking to, I guess, what was the GM of the team and what seemed like his like 10 year old son.
00:27:13
Speaker
And they're just, he's showing them the iPad and like, or whatever. Like, I don't know what the heck that was. um I will say app fans. I still think it's too early in year one to fire Dow logins, but I will tell you this.
00:27:27
Speaker
I get it. I get it. I don't think it's going to ultimately happen. They're going to bring him back for year two because unfortunately that year one buyout probably is just through the roof and they're like, we just don't want to pay it, which I totally get.
00:27:42
Speaker
But at fans, I understand now. Like I get it.
00:27:48
Speaker
It's bad, man. It is bad. It's really bad.
App State's Weaknesses Exposed
00:27:51
Speaker
i The AJ Swan, JJ Cole thing is what really perplexed me because if they could have, AJ Swan would have played the whole thing and only got hurt late in the game with, I think, a right knee ah was what it was reported. He left left the field on crutches.
00:28:06
Speaker
And so, you know... We're not rooting for injury, but luckily for app fans, it looks like it might be JJ Cole the rest of the way. um That really perplexes me. Again, this always is going to come back to why is there no offensive coordinator? Why are we letting the head coach like this? This is always going to be the comeback ah from that perspective. And then defensively, this is not something James Madison has really done.
00:28:34
Speaker
They've not really throttled teams like this. They did it against Old Dominion, and that was to some degree necessary in order to ah kind of solidify their top spot atop the East and really atop the conference. Yeah.
00:28:52
Speaker
I guess they didn't get to see until the second half. You know what I mean? Right. Like that's the craziest thing is like, you're right. They haven't done this where they've just taken a team, given a team the belt for four straight quarters and then been like sent them home packing.
00:29:09
Speaker
um The craziest stat to me is that app state defensively had more sacks than James Madison did in this game.
00:29:20
Speaker
That's the craziest stat that I could think of in a 58-10 loss. um This, i I think for James Madison, and they're obviously helped by the South Florida loss, this is kind of the notch that they needed to turn into at this point in the season over the last couple games as they finish out against Washington State and Coastal um in order to really clinch that playoff spot because now after South Florida's loss, it looks like James Madison has to be the shoe in for the, the piece or G six representative in the college football football playoffs. Right.
00:29:55
Speaker
Um, and so have we dropped the whole Memphis thing is the Memphis thing dead now? I don't know. i again, you can only go cause it's the committee, right. And you really have no idea what's going on in there. Um, none of it good.
00:30:10
Speaker
Um, i don't I have no idea what their what their thought process is ever, so I don't presume to know what they're going to Granted, like again, who knows how much this means, but I remember watching like the pre-game stuff, like game day and whatever, all the you know pre-kickoff um, stuff in the morning and it was all, so you know, here's our FPI projected playoffs. And it's like South Florida is the leader and then James Madison. And then as you said, yeah, Memphis was kind of in there, but I don't know how serious that was. um,
00:30:45
Speaker
i don't know. We'll find out. We record this on Sunday nights. The rankings come out, what, Tuesdays? Tuesdays. um So, I mean, you'll know by the time you hear this what the committee was actually thinking. But, um oh, that's it.
00:30:59
Speaker
Memphis has dropped two straight to Tulane in East Carolina. So that puts them pretty squarely out at eight and three. um Pretty squarely out of that race. Yeah. And because I know that the playoff committee does not actually care about looking at like quality wins and quality losses and things like that, they kind of just look at, I i truly don't know what they look at. Like a lot of times it seems to be a very heavily narrative based.
00:31:27
Speaker
um Yeah. I mean, this, like I said, though, that this was just an absolute beating of a game. 58 to 10, you you know I think the the the most damning thing to me, other than the stuff on the sideline, which is totally out of bounds, and like, I've not seen some of the most embarrassing Sunbelt coaches do something like that, is the fact that like,
00:31:53
Speaker
He's looking at AJ Swan and he's looking at JJ Cole and he's picking AJ Swan every time. Like AJ Swan must just be a practice hero. Like he must be lighting it up in practice and then he gets out on game day and like maybe does the Lamar Jackson thing where he eats like shrimp Alfredo and it messes up his like IBS before each game. um But I don't know what what what is what does he see throughout the week?
00:32:21
Speaker
And then he comes in on Saturday and what is just like blindsided by like what he's given from AJ Swan. Like, I don't, I don't understand. I think the good news ah for us is that within about this time next year, Dowell Loggins will be available on Sunday nights to explain it to us.
00:32:41
Speaker
That's fair enough.
00:32:44
Speaker
All right. So moving on from that one, ah this one should be pretty
South Alabama vs ULM
00:32:49
Speaker
quick. South Alabama beats ULM 26 to 14. ah ULM went up 14 to nothing early in this game. And I was like, oh, man, did we did we underestimate ULM? And then they didn't score point the rest of the game.
00:33:03
Speaker
And I was just like, oh, never mind. Like, it was, they're exactly who you think they are at every at every turn. so Yeah. um And this is kind of interesting because ulm has had this you know I don't know what you want to call it, inability to score when down.
00:33:22
Speaker
um And South Alabama has demonstrated a similar trait, ah obviously not to the same degree, but has displayed a similar thing. When you go back to their Louisiana game, it would have been two weeks ago now.
00:33:35
Speaker
They were down at half, um at half and Then Louisiana only scores seven in the second half. You only put up 15. So it's like they they kind of had the same thing where not really able to play from behind very well. And part of that is the quarterback ah deficiencies both teams have.
00:33:54
Speaker
ah Monroe just crumbles here, man. They they had the opportunity to, i i think what you call just writing them off, which we've done for a lot of this year.
00:34:05
Speaker
And we've done a South Alabama to a lesser degree. Um, But no, they're they're who we thought they were. They can't put up points. they They play defense, but it's nothing. you know It's on no side of the extreme.
00:34:19
Speaker
No. It's just not. Alabama is absolutely unremarkable in every respect. They are, they're good enough to, to kind of dodge the absolute basement with the Georgia States and the ULMs and these teams that like literally can't get out of their own way.
00:34:38
Speaker
But when you play even a a, passable, like middle of the road, some belt team, they just have nothing for them. So it's just like, you know, uh, major Apple white,
00:34:51
Speaker
My opinion of him as a coach has not changed despite winning this game. ah You know, I still think he's... If I was South Al, I think I'd just fire him at the end of the year just eat the pie out. Like, the damage a season, a year three could do if you're running back this and you bring this back for 26, I think could, like, really cripple, like, any fan support you may have. Because it's like...
00:35:19
Speaker
imagine being like, yeah, we were we were the second worst team in the West, but things will change because we don't want to pay this guy to go away. It's like, wow, what a hell of a sales pitch.
00:35:29
Speaker
So it's not like they've dealt with like major like major major injuries to guys that like would be putting them over the top had they stayed healthy. They're just not there's not a good team. And ULM, on the flip side of things, I mean, Aiden Armenta,
00:35:47
Speaker
Dude, I don't know why he keeps getting out there. At this point, I would just throw Hunter Herring out there and just let him play like a hybrid wildcat that can kind of throw sometimes quarterback. You know, I've called him Taysom Hill in the past.
00:36:01
Speaker
I would rather see that if I was the coach of ULM. I would rather run the spread option from the shotgun and just do something else that differently. Like, I...
00:36:14
Speaker
How can you... Okay, he didn't even crack 190 yards passing on Saturday. Aiden Armenta aid and armmentta through for 82 yards and a pick. He had the second worst PFF grade only ahead of AJ Swan, who was historically bad and completed less than 30% of his passes. So...
00:36:34
Speaker
so I don't know, man. And it and it's like, okay, Aiden Armenta's yards per attempt, 4.3. So he's not even really like trying to push it downfield.
00:36:46
Speaker
And...
00:36:49
Speaker
I don't know. like this is this is goingnna be in a But here's the thing. you know We've talked about this. Brian Vincent's also the AD interim. He's not going to fire himself, so he's going to be back next year.
00:37:01
Speaker
He's got to find a quarterback. like If they ever hire a real AD who like expects results, like he has to find a quarterback.
00:37:10
Speaker
Yeah, I'm just trying i'm trying to look through South Alabama's history and see like what their trend is coaching-wise. um That 7-6 last year, again, we've called it before and will continue.
00:37:23
Speaker
Not a very strong or convincing 7-6 last year. um It was kind of very much held up by Gio Lopez, um very much held up by Jamal Pritchett.
00:37:36
Speaker
um Yeah, yeah. Blaine Myrick was a guy, too, who really held up that team.
00:37:43
Speaker
Both of these teams need to change, and I really do just think you're right. Nothing really to add. South Alabama is unfortunately not in a position right now because he's not going to fire himself.
00:37:57
Speaker
Because does he then – if Major Applewhite – let's say he were to step down, does he get to keep his interim AD role? It's ULM's head coach is the AD. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, yes, yes. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know that for fact. um
00:38:13
Speaker
Brian Vincent, rather. If he were to step down, does he get to retain his interim AD role? um Because with Kerry Bowden, like – I don't know. they They were pretty aggressive, I thought, with Terry Bowden. He wasn't turning the team into a winner, but he really pulled them out of the basement.
00:38:30
Speaker
um yeah I thought that was a swift boot that they gave him.
00:38:38
Speaker
I don't know. I thought Brian Vincent was a good hire on the surface because he coached UAB really well that year that Bill Clark stepped down. um I think one of two things are true.
00:38:51
Speaker
Either he's not a good recruiter or he does not have the resources to get a competitive team around him at ULM. We've talked about like their financial issues. I'm sure NIL is not good there.
00:39:06
Speaker
um it he hasn't in two in the two years he's been there he's just run back the Aiden Armenta thing like he didn't really bring anybody in that was like really competing for the job like Armenta was kind of the entrenched starter in the preseason like we didn't even hear another person's name like hey watch out for the it was just like yeah it's Armenta again and I was kind of like you know He wasn't great last year, but that's a pretty uninspiring choice to just be like, no, we're just putting the job right in his lap, and then if he takes it, great, and if he doesn't, we're screwed.
00:39:41
Speaker
I don't like that as a as an alternative. i think I feel like that's pretty lazy just to be like, I don't know. well I'm not even going to call anybody from the FCS and see if they want to move up and play here. like I think this program, again, this really hinges on like that financial side.
00:39:58
Speaker
Maybe they're like Idaho. And they just fall back down. um
00:40:05
Speaker
maybe Maybe that's what's best for him. I mean, i feel i have those rumblings at Georgia State as well. It's like sometimes that might just be the best thing. You don't want to be that guy, but.
00:40:17
Speaker
Yeah. What else are going to do? Yeah. Especially when you're, you're non-competitive, you know, last year they had their moments, but now with the benefit of hindsight, you're really like, it was a mod Hardy was like, you know, basically carrying the team on his back ah because he allowed the defense to kind of play more aggressively. They were limiting the other team's possessions per game.
00:40:40
Speaker
You have some good running backs on this team like Braylon McReynolds, but you don't have anybody who could turn around and step into the SEC and be like one of the leading rushers in that conference like day two, um I think is the big difference. So, ah you know, as long as he doesn't have a quarterback, like they don't really have a shot.
00:40:59
Speaker
I mean, even you saw last year, even with a generational running back that came through ULM, like it ultimately didn't make a ah huge bit of difference. They start hot. They fall off the map.
00:41:10
Speaker
They finish, I think, below 500. And so it's just like, Yeah, this is going to be, you know, year two and he's going to have probably eight wins, I guess, as a coach through two years. Like, and then you talked about how aggressive they were with Bowden, but that was when they had an AD. So I don't and know that they still make that move now.
00:41:31
Speaker
um All right. Next game here. Texas State Southern Miss. So I didn't know. And I guess nobody knew that Braylon Braxton was out and he was a gay true like game time decision. People said like he was on the field.
00:41:46
Speaker
I think he tried to give it a go. It didn't ultimately pan out. He came out as like one of the the captains like before the game, but he wasn't dressed. Yeah. And then i ironically, like I didn't know he wasn't going to play when we recorded last Sunday.
Texas State vs Southern Miss
00:42:03
Speaker
But I said, i was like, I feel like Texas State's only shot is if the backup comes in and plays and is really bad. And then they take advantage of that and just jump on them. And that's exactly what they did.
00:42:14
Speaker
ah They scored 27 first half points. Um, You know, Landry Liddy had ah had a real ah struggle of a time trying to kind of keep drives alive and keep the offense on the field.
00:42:28
Speaker
um Lincoln Pair had 118 yards rushing on 21 carries and a score. um Brad Jackson only threw 17 passes in this game, 14 of 17 for one 92 and a score.
00:42:42
Speaker
They just straight dominated, um you know, Southern miss in Southern misses shown now, like they are very top heavy to the point where this team is now on like the Troy level of like, I don't know what I'm getting out of this team. If Braylon Braxton's not the quarterback.
00:43:01
Speaker
Yeah, ah from an offensive perspective, Texas State kind of stuck to their normal game plan initially. This was not... ah This is the first time Brad Jackson's thrown less than 20 passes all year.
00:43:13
Speaker
And so it was the very normal... high flying offense early in the game. But I mean, just very quickly, it was pretty apparent that Southern Miss was going to be non-competitive.
00:43:25
Speaker
Um, Texas state scores, I think on both of their first two drives. Um, yeah, they go field goal touchdown while Southern Miss in the first quarter fumbles the ball, uh, and then punts on six plays. So, uh, Texas state scores on every first half possession, except for the final, uh, where they, I took, I think just ran out, uh, the first half.
00:43:45
Speaker
Um,
00:43:48
Speaker
This is, I remember when, um gosh, was it Troy? i compared, yeah, it was Troy ah last year or two years ago when Summerall left for Gerard Parker um and this Southern Miss team in that, look, you have a lot of the bones of a championship winning team. team Obviously, Southern Miss, you brought over those bones from Marshall, namely Braylon Braxton, namely Charles Huff.
00:44:20
Speaker
Um, but beyond those like very top level, good infrastructure, um, is how I compared them. in In retrospect, they're actually kind of opposites in that Troy had the, what you would call the real bones of a championship winner. They had the depth, they had the the infrastructure there, but there was no top level. There was no championship winning piece. And for Troy with John Summerall, it was that just obscene defense.
00:44:51
Speaker
um Whereas Southern Miss, it didn't get to bring any of the Southern or Marshall bones over, but you get the head coach, you get the quarterback, you get a handful of skill positions, ah but you're notably missing, obviously Mike green.
00:45:05
Speaker
um Nothing you can do about that. He graduated playing in the NFL now, um but you miss a lot of those defensive pieces, that infrastructure around your stars and around your top pieces.
00:45:16
Speaker
um So it's funny that those teams are kind of inverse now. And when you take away those layers, this is what we saw out of Troy in their first year out of Gerard Parker after going to, and I think them winning the Sunbelt championship.
00:45:29
Speaker
Yep. and You know, not even to, to kind of add onto your point, you don't have the running game with an AJ Turner who was there last year at Marshall. You don't have the, the, the big body receiver of a Christian Fitzpatrick who was the the number one at Marshall last year.
00:45:47
Speaker
that This was sort of my concern and it kind of came to fruition in the Louisiana tech game that they kind of got blown off the map early and then really couldn't claw back.
00:45:59
Speaker
But then as the sunbelt season has gone on, I'm like, you know, Louisiana tech might be good, but they're not in the sunbelt yet. So we don't really have to put a ton of concern in now with Liddy playing. I'm like,
00:46:13
Speaker
I don't know about these guys like around him, like the inability to run the ball with Pittman and all these other, this mishmash of guys who are all like fine, but not great.
00:46:24
Speaker
um The receiving core, it's like, basically you got Elijah Metcalf and then whoever else, yeah you know, on a weekly basis. So it's just kind of like, And then you see now when you can't sustain drives and your defense is on the field constantly and they're tired and all all this sort of stuff, this thing kind of just snowballs when the quarterback is out.
00:46:46
Speaker
And, you know, hopefully for their sake, Braxton is out there sooner than later because at minimum you're going to need him to – play in the Troy game because eve so Troy has two conference losses, right?
00:47:01
Speaker
Yeah, they're 42. So Southern Miss in theory can drop this one this weekend. and And if Brad is back for the Troy game, they they win the West if if they beat Troy. So, um,
00:47:15
Speaker
Yeah. I mean, you know, your ceiling wasn't going to be higher than that to begin with like eight and four, ah is, is fine. But if, if it's even a question of Braxton being healthy for this Saturday, I would just hold them out and be like, we've got that one game cushion. We'll use it.
00:47:31
Speaker
If we win, we win. If, if not, whatever. And then we'll, we'll bring Braxton back, hopefully more healthy for the Troy game and just hope to kind of close it out. Uh, Especially when you saw what you saw at a Troy on Thursday, you're like, yeah, we can beat this team with bre as long as Braxton's healthy.
00:47:48
Speaker
Yeah. I think it's interesting that we've seen just some, diff some teams have really stumbled into a quarterback. I mean, shoot, Arkansas state stumbled into Jalen Rayner.
00:47:59
Speaker
um I don't remember. I think old dominion kind of stumbled into Colton Joseph. I don't exactly remember. Cause they didn't want to, they didn't start him last year. Coastal, and again, you know who knows what you get out of him, but you kind of stumble into Samari Collier.
00:48:15
Speaker
ah But some of these other teams, we saw it last year with Louisiana, where there was, and granted, they were looking at their third guy in Daniel Beal. Now it's Southern Miss looking at Landry Liddy. Some of these top contenders really are unable to, like you're telling me Troy can't accidentally find someone.
00:48:34
Speaker
ULM can't find a guy. it's It's funny just like the different if you're at the bottom, you've got someone there. You just have to find him. But if you're at the top, I guess there's just no one there for you.
00:48:49
Speaker
Well, I mean, you know, even to use, you know, you guys's situation, let's say, you know, you guys had Darren Granger for a couple of years. He was yeah good.
00:49:00
Speaker
But was he ever – I don't think he was as good as Cameron Brown is right now, to be totally honest. like That's tough. Cameron Brown like has, to me, seems way more consistent. We talked about in years past, like, Granger could could drop a dime 60 yards down the field and then he'd overthrow a screen pass by 10 yards. And you're like – Yeah. You're like but you're you're like the Adam Dunn of quarterbacks where it's either a home run or a strikeout, like every every at bat. Like, what are we doing?
00:49:29
Speaker
And he was a guy, too, that Georgia State just kind of fumbled into ah because Quad Brown, I don't remember if it was off the field or just poor play, but, I mean, he was ready to become the best quarterback in team history that season, and it just didn't pan out. So it's interesting it's interesting how these quarterback fines happen and then how you compare that to you know maybe a higher level where it's like you go in and you know your guy.
00:49:57
Speaker
We've got our guy. Even Braylon Braxton last year. Yeah. Like, yeah, didn't want to play him. And then basically the Southern game happened. And then it was like, oh, no, like I have to get him on the field. Like they're going to fire me. or You know, he was gone regardless. But he's like, I won't get another head coaching job if I don't get my best quarterback out there.
00:50:15
Speaker
Um, Yeah, again, Texas State just kind of ran it down their throat. ah Chris Dawn, good job by him. Five catches, 117 and a score. They just absolutely routed Southern Miss, and Southern Miss had nothing for them.
00:50:28
Speaker
um All right, last game of the night.
Georgia Southern's Historic Win
00:50:31
Speaker
This was mine my game. This is the O.J. Arnold game. Like, put it in the Where were you? I was on my couch ah watching.
00:50:41
Speaker
ah I will say my father-in-law and my and my wife's grandfather ah were at the game. um So they got to see that. And my and my father-in-law is not even a Southern fan. He's a Georgia Tech alum.
00:50:54
Speaker
But ah he was like, you know, I'll take my dad, like blah, blah, blah. I'll get to go see the game. So that was that was nice. ah But man, OJ Arnold went crazy in this game.
00:51:06
Speaker
267 yards rushing, two touchdowns on the ground. You had, i think it was 53 yards receiving and a touchdown through the air. And then he threw 73 yard touchdown and he became the only Georgia Southern player in program history to have all three within one game.
00:51:24
Speaker
So really, Well, because how many guys are passing, rushing, and throwing a touchdown? you know i feel – I mean, obviously that's crazy, but you would think at some point, especially during those like triple option years where everyone is so hybrid, you'd think at some point someone would have done that, right?
00:51:43
Speaker
I don't think they were running a lot of trick plays back in the eighties. Like, I don't think there was a lot of halfback passes. right now Well, I think it was, to I think it was one of two things when they did throw the ball, you know, it may have been to the running back, but then they weren't running a trip, a trick play.
00:52:00
Speaker
And then when the quarterback was, was rushing and passing, they weren't running a trick play to throw him the ball in the end zone. That's fair enough. That was the big thing. Um,
00:52:11
Speaker
I will say, defensively, this cemented... if If there was ever any doubt in anybody's mind, this cemented that Brandon Bailey should have just a pink slip on his desk. like the The last game of the season, after they after they probably lose to Marshall, he should just have a pink slip on his desk. It's like, clear your crap out, bud.
00:52:29
Speaker
You're done. like The fact that you... So Samari Collier gets hurt on a long run and he's on the sidelines at the end and he can't even like put weight on his, on his leg. So I tweeted it out. It seems like he's probably gonna be done for the season with like two games to go. He may, I don't know severity of the injury. He may be able to get back for bowl season, but probably not.
00:52:52
Speaker
So Tad Hudson comes in. The fact that you struggled to close out a Tad Hudson team and only beat them by five, That to me defensively is a fireable offense. You should not be allowing 40 points to a team that primarily had to play Tad Hudson.
00:53:11
Speaker
I'm sorry. Yeah, we someone tweeted at us or replied to one of our tweets and asked, you know, with Samari Collier kind of taking this job and Coastal seems to be going to like a a really pass heavy look. ah What happens to Tad Hudson? and Realistically, the only thing is better learn Montana State, buddy.
00:53:30
Speaker
Please Montana state. He might not even start there. That's where, that's where college football at the FCS level is like rocking. He's not going to be able to keep up with North Dakota state up there. I hope you learn your, you know, great plains geography. Cause that's where you're bound.
00:53:46
Speaker
Um, yeah, Yeah, as you said, this just exacerbates the the real inefficiencies of Georgia Southern's offense. What happened, though, because this was a shootout in the first half.
00:53:59
Speaker
i This could have been bound for like sixty sixty something like that. And then both yeah teams kind neutered themselves in the second half ah offensively. Coastal scored 13 to Georgia Southern's 10 after going into half 27-35.
00:54:13
Speaker
thirty five Yeah. what Frankly, I think they both got tired from all the running in the first half. yeah i would Ryan Applin has had this thing, and I know it worked twice ah on Saturday.
00:54:30
Speaker
He's had this thing about trick plays. like He loves trick plays, and he keeps trying to run them, and like up until this week, they have not worked like at all. And then he had two work this week, which means he'll probably just exclusively run trick plays against the Old Dominion.
00:54:43
Speaker
Yeah. Because the one thing that I know about this coaching staff is they do not learn from their mistakes. They keep doing the same things and hope for different results. So honestly, it was just kind of like,
00:54:58
Speaker
the Tad Hudson thing like petered out like in the second half. And then it became a, a race to just run the clock out where it was like Southern's offense was OJ Arnold, basically. I mean, French played fairly well. He had 264 yards and two touchdowns, but it, it was just like,
00:55:18
Speaker
they were trying to run the clock out and at all costs. And I think Arnold was kind of out of gas, like after everything he had done and they kept rotating these other backs in who like haven't played all year. And I'm kind of like, who are these? Like, who is Tao Todd?
00:55:35
Speaker
Who is Bryce Brown? Like, who are these guys? Like, I've not seen Terrence Gibbs got, was let out of his sarcophagus for a couple of plays. And then they shoved him back in. Are we giving up on the carry the horror thing? Finally, like what's going on, man?
00:55:49
Speaker
i I truly don't know. like he Every year in the offseason, I said this before this season, every year in the offseason, they promise us he's back to 100%, and then he plays like 18 snaps all season, and then it's like, yeah, so I don't know. like Occasionally, he'll just pop up and have a reception for six yards, and then it's like,
00:56:09
Speaker
back to the locker room with you, bud. Like, we won't see you for another three quarters. so So I don't know. Basically what it came down to is like, they wanted to run the clock out, but they, their backups to Arnold aren't good enough to like make it happen. So they were really struggling to kind of get any yardage.
00:56:27
Speaker
And for coastal, it was like, you know, one of those scores when Hudson was in was a kick return touchdown. So he didn't even touch the ball on that possession. um, I texted you. It was like he threw one of the worst picks I've ever seen in my life. like he He hit a defender in the between the numbers.
00:56:45
Speaker
like I think they were on the 30 or something. and he he They were like driving to go down and score to like pull within... I can't remember what the score was at that point.
00:56:56
Speaker
He hit a defender literally between the numbers like in the hands. like It was a textbook like you know what you would want ah a receiver to get as a target. But... I don't know. it was just like kind of both teams, I think ran out of gas.
00:57:10
Speaker
Like by the end, it was just like neither one of them have the depth to like keep this momentum going. And, you know, Coastal is not going to score a ton with Tad Hudson in the game. No, ah they're a lost ship without Samari Collier. And even then, um they were starting to figure it out, realized that the guy just really can't pass the ball well and just let him run out of the gun and call it a day. um You've got to go back to Tad Hudson. It's just a really dark spot that I don't wish upon anyone.
00:57:45
Speaker
that' That's really unfortunate. No, I couldn't agree more. after ah I saw him play last year a full game against Southern, and he was really bad. Or no, no, no, sorry. That was... a the other guy who's who's at Liberty now.
00:58:03
Speaker
ah We watched Hudson play the bowl game. He was really bad in that. And then to start this season, and he was really bad until they got Collier in there finally. Yeah, Collier had a 47-yard run. So like to me, maybe OJ Arnold still does what he did in this game.
00:58:21
Speaker
But if Collier plays, I kind of think Coastal scores late and it's 47-45 Coastal because They still weren't having like a ton of problems, but it's like, yeah, look at Hudson 15 of 28, one 73 in a pick.
00:58:37
Speaker
Like they weren't really doing a whole lot when he was out there. it was kind of like, yeah, we need, you know, Collier to come out and, you know, Bryson Graves hits one pass, which was also a trick play.
00:58:51
Speaker
Um, yeah, you know, I, they were running trick plays. We were running trick plays. They were getting kick return touchdowns. You know, we would do something silly. Uh, you know, Cameron, brown Camden Brown, uh, was five catches, one 33 and three touchdowns.
00:59:07
Speaker
Uh, so, so good on him for that. Um, He caught the OJ Arnold touchdown and Weston Bryant actually came out and threw a touchdown as well. So we, it was just, both teams were just kind of emptying the bag, like trying to find anything to kind of claw and get this win. But defensively, yeah, it's, it's still really bad.
00:59:26
Speaker
I'm glad that they're having fun because the alternative is your app state and you're sticking with AJ Swan. This is actually the best case scenario for both teams. um Obviously coastal in without Samari Collier, this is your best case scenario. Then for Southern um it's just, Hey man, go have fun ah because the defense ain't going to a lick.
00:59:47
Speaker
ah So at least make it entertaining best you can. The defense isn't going to do anything for you that's positive, really. ah You've got ah you've got you've already eliminated yourself from the the conference title race. You've got no hope there. Yeah.
01:00:06
Speaker
you your your best shot is just to make a bowl, like, squeak into a bowl game at, like, 6-6, 7-5, because, frankly, like, do I think they're going to beat Old Dominion at home this weekend? No.
01:00:17
Speaker
And then Marshall ah has been all over the map, so... But I've seen... I've seen better stuff out of Carlos Del Rio Wilson recently than bad. Like he was not great against JMU, but Jamie's defense and Georgia Southern's are an ocean apart.
01:00:34
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ah So I, I honestly think like Southern probably drops the last two games and misses a bowl game. But like you said, might as well empty the playbook. Cause if you don't win at least two more before the coastal game, like you're not making a bowl game anyway.
01:00:48
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So And good thing is that coastal Carolina is going to make everyone forget about what South Carolina did to texan Texas, Texas A&M last week. Cause they're about to go into, uh, uh, Williams price and just get slaughtered.
01:01:05
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Yeah. Uh, all right. Well, that does it for week 12 Zeke. Let everybody know where they can find your own socials. Yeah, it's really easy at Zeke Palermo, Z E K E P A L E R M O.
01:01:18
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01:01:30
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01:01:41
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