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15. Interview: Free Kinlow
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Free is the CEO of FreedomLoveExperience, where she uses her gifts as an intuitive life coach to promote healing to help others connect to their higher selves through spiritual energy readings or life coaching sessions. Free also has a TV special on TLC that started in November 2021 called Down South Spirit.
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
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Hello and welcome to another episode of pursuit of infinity a podcast where we explore the inner and outer mysteries of mind and the universe alike while never forgetting the quote-unquote cosmic giggle that underlies an otherwise serious endeavor inherent in the subject matter of philosophy and mind are often serious and deep conversations and today's interview is no exception, but it also is an exercise in gratitude and silliness
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It wouldn't be a proper universe without both. So today we welcome Free Kinlow to the show. Free is the CEO of Freedom Love Experience, where she uses her gifts as an intuitive life coach to promote healing, to help others connect to their higher selves through spiritual energy readings and life coaching sessions.
What is Intuitive Life Coaching?
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What exactly is an intuitive life coach? Well, listen on because it sounds better coming from her than from me. Free also has a TV special on TLC that started in November, 2021 called Down South Spirit. Check out all her links in the show notes below. Show her some support.
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If you like what we do here and you want to support the show, the easiest way to do that is to subscribe and leave us a five star review on your platform of choice. If you're feeling extra altruistic, you can visit our Patreon at patreon.com slash pursuit of infinity. We're also on Instagram at pursuit of infinity pod and we have our YouTube channel on the way. Without further delay, thank you so much for listening and I hope you enjoy today's discussion.
Embracing Spiritual Gifts
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Hey Free, welcome to the show. Hello, and thank you so very much. Thanks for coming on. I really appreciate it. Well, I'm so grateful that you invited me. Absolutely. So you are an intuitive life coach. Absolutely. So what is that in comparison to like a regular life coach? So intuitive life coach means I also receive channel messages from spirit, God, ancestors,
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And I allow, I use those as well to help assist you in gaining your life's purpose or moving further along. So how did this all start for you? Cause now you have a TV show, you have a business. So where did you start this? I started when I was five. I just didn't realize that's what I was doing five years old. I didn't realize that I was receiving messages and I've always been the person. I remember when I was in high school,
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My high school teacher said, well, she's the leader and whatever she says to people, can you please tell her to tell the kids to be nice to me? Because if she says it, they'll do it. And I'm like, what? She was the teacher. So it's been that way for a long time, but I will say that I fully embraced it as of 11, 11, 11. Oh, what a perfect time. What a beautiful day. Yeah. So what happened on that date?
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So I went to an 11-11 event. And when I went to this event, you can do an aura camera, like take your pictures of your aura and things like that. And I had been told prior to that I was a psychic, that I could see things. A psychic told my dad that when I was 16, I've always known things and know I knew them. I went to see a psychic. He told me the same thing. However, when I did the aura test and my aura came out white,
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When we first did it, the guy was talking to me was like yeah yeah okay okay smiling it's okay make sure that your hand is planted, because it was showing white with just a tad bit of purple around this area right here. So he said, make sure everything's on there solid or your feet planted I say yes did it again. And it was white with a little bit of purple the same thing and he said, do you know who you are me yeah i'm free I know.
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And he said, no, you are special. And he proceeded to explain some things to me. You are so close to the divine. You're so close. You know things. And I think that's when I really say, yo, okay, wait a minute. Let me start operating in this. And I decided to start doing what I needed to do to allow myself to operate in my gifts.
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So do you have that same gift? Like, can you see in other people too, the same way that he saw in you that they can be doing this work as well? So I don't necessarily see the aura a lot. Every once in a while I can see a person's aura. I'm more so see the soul and the energy of the person. I read the vibration of you, if that's a better term, I read your vibration. So yes. And I can see when people are supposed to be doing this or I can see.
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when they are gifted or intuitive.
Remembering Divine Nature and Love
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If you really want to be honest, all of us have it. Everybody just doesn't operate in it. We all, you know, spirit is no respect for person. We are all a spark of the divine. So that means everything that God can do, everything that Yahshua can do, we can do. We just don't know that.
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because we're, what is the quote? We are spiritual beings having a human experience, right? That's it, that's it. But what did you say first? We are spiritual beings first, having a human experience. And now keep in mind, I've seen the soul and I know how ginormous it is. The soul is beautiful and amazing. But we had to dumb all of that down and put it in the shell of a body that we have.
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Right. So in order to do that, we forgot a lot of the things that we knew when we were one with the collective consciousness consciousness in totality. So we forgot a lot. Now, this is all about I hear people say, well, they've awakened, they've awakened. I don't think anybody awakens. I think we just remember. Hmm. I like that. We remember. So what have we forgotten?
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We've forgotten that we are divine. We've forgotten that we are one with God. We've forgotten that we are God. We've forgotten completely. We've forgotten that we can do anything. We've forgotten that love is the most important thing there is. That's the only purpose that we have is love. Now, how you show that love is different, but love is our only purpose. And we've forgotten that that's why the world is how it is. But could you imagine?
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how beautiful it would be if everybody remembered that they are loved. Oh my God. And it's happening. I know it's going to happen. I know it. You can see it. It is happening. This, this kind of thing is becoming bigger and bigger. It's like a, it's like a snowball effect. It seems to be rolling down the hill and it's just getting larger and larger and larger. Yes, it is. Yes, it is. And I'm so excited. I was like, I just really thought about it.
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Yo, I picked the best time to be alive in this room for this lifetime. Cause I've been here several times as all of us, but this one right here, yo, this was it. I'm so grateful. You know, I feel a lot of the same sentiments, just gratefulness, gratefulness for, for being in this particular incarnation at this time.
00:07:56
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Fulfilling this purpose on the specific path that I'm on. I just I feel a lot of a lot of gratefulness So you're speaking my language for sure. Yeah So grateful so grateful. I was like, oh my god, and I know I was standing So what do you tell people who are struggling who are suffering who are unable to see this remembering and
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to lean into their heart, to just sit in silence. First, they have to be deprogrammed from what they've learned. So I would ask them, and no judgment on anybody. So I never try to sway anybody. It's only when they come to me and say, I know something is not right. Because I'm not trying to change anybody's views. What I am doing is making the things that I know readily available to other people. So the first thing that I would ask them to do is just open their mind just for a moment.
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Just stop and think. And if everything that you heard really makes sense to you and resonates with you, that's okay. But if any of it, just a little bit seems off kilter, think about it. Think about it. One of the main things I remember,
Ayahuasca and Spiritual Growth
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I was dating a gentleman who, his father is a very well, well, well known Bishop, right? Well known. And I told him, we were talking and he was talking about Jesus or Yahshua is what I say.
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And I told him, I said, well, you know that Yahshua had a woman, he was married, you know that, right? Oh my God. It was like, and this was a long time ago, but I knew that he had somebody. I knew, and I said, well, think about it. Why would God allow himself, if that's how you put it, his son to come on earth and not experience the greatest thing that there is? Love. He wouldn't do that because he couldn't hold us to standards to it that Yahshua wouldn't be able to,
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a field. So we're supposed to stay monogamous or whatever you prefer to call it. He wouldn't do that. He wouldn't, he wouldn't allow a woman to give birth to a child without first knowing the response to it. You know, I just, he wouldn't. So that's the first thing is to deprogram themselves from what they've learned. And all that requires is just an open mind. What if what I'm saying is true?
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What if you are God? Think about the scripture that says, and I will always be with you. Well, how can something always be with you? That means it's on the inside of you. If you're always with me, and I'm like, just think about that. And that's how I do it. And then I tell them to lean into their heart. And when they lean into their heart, if there's an inquiry or a little question about anything,
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then I advise them to dig further. I've heard you speak about, and this made me laugh, and I really, really love the way you put it, taking a dump. Can you go over your concept of taking a dump? You got to take a dump. You got to dump all that other bullshit out your mind that you had before. You got to take a dump. And sometimes that requires a physical dump.
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Because that's stuff that we've impeded inside of us that's the crap the bull crap that we've been fed the stories and things like that. So yes, that is what I say, when you take a dump it when you take a dump we're taking the spiritual dot emotional dot physical dump you're taking all of a duck all of that bull crap out so that you can be replenished with other things right. Essentially, what that means is just letting go of the crap.
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Yeah, it's funny because I've heard, I heard it was like a Zen koan or it was some sort of a story told by like a Buddhist monk where he had been approached and he was asked, what is enlightenment? And his answer to that question was taking a big fat shit. And I thought that that's perfect. That's perfect. Because in the moment where you have that urge.
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to take a shit. That's the only thing you want to do. And it's the only thing that's going to alleviate the physical stress that you have. And when you, when I heard you say taking a dump as a way of like surrendering and shedding yourself of all the conditioning, I thought it was just the perfect analogy. Oh yeah. And I had to do that. And here's the thing about taking a dump. You might have to take a dump a few times. It's going to take a second. You might have to do that a few times.
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But when you do it, you leave room for, um, knowledge. You have to purge all the bullshit so that you can get to the real shit. We're real. Yep. We have to. Now, one of the, uh, like, well, the main way that I do this is through psychedelics.
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Um, and we talk a lot about plant medicines and psychedelics on, on this podcast. And I understand that you had just gone through recently in ayahuasca experience, right? Yes. Yes. Oh my God. I'm getting chills. I love you. I'm getting chills. And here's the thing. I just, night before last, my stomach was hurting so bad and I didn't know why I've since then realized that something about the earth had a tsunami or something.
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There's like all kinds of stuff going on in the atmosphere and it's making people be sick and feel bad and all this other stuff, but it's more knowledge. But I just talked to Mother Aya and I said, Mother Aya, I need you. I did this in November in Costa Rica at Rythmia. The one thing that I can tell you is that once you have that connection to Mother Aya, it's forever.
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And I got i'm tingling all over right now it's forever like I when I tell you, I cannot explain. The gratitude. I can't explain. It was the hardest yet the most beautiful thing that I had ever done. Oh, my God, it was so beautiful so beautiful I feel like everyone.
00:14:26
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should have an ayahuasca experience. I've also done Golden Teacher quite a lot. I've done Tamarian Blue quite a lot. I've done DMT. I didn't know that was the tone when I did it. I was just doing some shit because I just wanted to try it. As I went to a little ceremony with somebody, I was like, oh, this is cool. OK, I'm going to do DMT. Honey, when I came off that pipe,
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So what was your DMT trip like? So when I first came off of it, I am a music person. Music always shows up in every one of my journeys. So when I first came off the pipe, I started doing this and I was just rotating and I knew I was doing it and then I just went back. And as I went back, I heard on my left side,
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I heard a tribe of indigenous people, they were singing to me and playing the drums to me and I could see them and they were talking to me and telling me, you know, it's getting ready to happen. Are you ready? I answered, I'm ready. The second time I said, I'm ready. They said they thought I was getting ready to start masturbating or something. Cause I was like, I'm ready. They were like, Oh, but I didn't, I just got,
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It was so beautiful. And after they did their little ceremony and I said, I'm ready. I started dancing. I'm laying down and I'm doing full movements. And they said they had never seen anything so beautiful. They knew that I was doing some type of sacred dance. Now that has happened to me again. When I did, um, to marry in blue, I dance. And then I also danced on ayahuasca because the ayahuasca was for ceremonies. We did four, four days in a row.
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But DMT, listen, overwhelming feeling of love, overwhelming feeling of knowledge, of being one with everything. Now, one of the persons that I did it with, she freaked out. She was like, yo, I'm fucking tripping. So I had to close my eyes. I'm the person that when I do any type of journey like that, I don't sit and try to see what's around me. I want to go on the inside. Absolutely.
00:16:54
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You know, some people, they have their eyes open. The first time I did mushrooms, which is golden teacher, my eyes open. And I saw the ceiling in my bedroom separate. I said, yo, ho, that was a fun journey that I just laughed, laughed, laughed, laughed, laughed. That's all I did. But the very next time I did it on the beach, and it was more than that for me. Now it was time for them to teach me.
00:17:20
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because I got all the laughter part out and I always start laughing right when I'm getting ready to go under. That's how everybody I think has their own little thing that they do when they go, when the journey starts. Mine is I'm going on and then after I yawn, I'm gonna start laughing. And I'm talking about laughing like two tears falling. And I don't know what I'm laughing at, but it's hilarious. And I'd be saying, ooh, that's funny. I'd be laughing hard. And then I go under and I'm ready.
00:17:50
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But DMT was amazing, ayahuasca is amazing. Like I just, that's probably why they're so illegal in certain places. Because if we all were on that. The world would be a very different place. Listen, if they would give that to people with depression, I honestly think they wouldn't have it. I've realized why, cause I love to drink wine and I couldn't figure out why.
00:18:17
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I could drink a bottle of wine a day, sometimes two, depending on what time I started. And I couldn't figure out why or what was going on with me that I felt like I needed to have this wine. What mother Aya told me, that was my resistance to walking in my care. That was my safe hate. And that's why.
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And I couldn't understand it. She, she told me to stop it. She didn't say stop forever. And I have since then drank some wine because my mother transitioned. That probably was my excuse for drinking it. Cause I really wanted to drink it anyway. That was my excuse. But she did tell me that I didn't need it. Yeah. I hear a lot of stories about people encountering mother ayahuasca and her telling them about their vices, uh, like one man in particular, um, Graham Hancock. Have you ever heard of him?
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I have, I have. I don't remember what he does, but I know I've heard that name before. He researches like, uh, lost and ancient civilizations. And he's very, very much into, uh, the psychedelic community and the psychedelic world. And ayahuasca is one of his favorite drugs. And he had, uh, had a very tumultuous relationship with marijuana where he would just be smoking it.
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all day, all the time, like no matter what, he was always super high, super stoned. And Ayahuasca told him, you know, you have to curate your relationship with this drug because this drug is also a plant teacher and you have to use it and integrate it into your life in the correct way because right now the way you're doing it, it's not right. It's not benefiting you. So I find that to be a common theme.
00:20:02
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I personally have never taken ayahuasca yet. I'd love to. I feel like such a calling toward it, but I just haven't really gotten around to, like you said, it's illegal. So you have to like go out of the country. And like you said, you went to Rythmia.
00:20:19
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I, I really, yeah, in Costa Rica, there's another place called Sotara in Costa Rica that I was looking at as well, but how important to you was it to go to a place where they have like trained authentic shamans? Um, it was important to me because I know that if you're not ready or you're not careful, you're not knowing what you're doing, it could be detrimental to you. Right. I do know that.
00:20:49
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Um, and then I went with a group of people that I also knew we didn't sit together because we wanted to have our own separate experience. But I feel like you have to, when you do something like that. So one, there are so many people who are now trying to do this, or I won't say trying because either they're doing it or they're not. There's no such as dry. There are so many people that are doing this, but you, it has to be a place where, you know, your health is very important at rhythm. Yeah.
00:21:19
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you have to go through a wellness check first before you can do it. If your blood pressure is too high, they won't let you do it, right? And it's so many other things. Not only do you do the ayahuasca, but you also have to do a colonic, which allows you to take a dump, get all that shit out, you know? And then you get a massage, which will move things through your body. And then you do the breath work because there's so much in alignment to it.
00:21:47
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If you just try to go into it and just start drinking ayahuasca, I don't know that that is a sacred. Like I will tell you, I had a soul merger when I did it. My higher self merged back with me. Cause we all go through a soul split. Something happens. Alarm clock can sometimes make that split. I knew what mine was, which explains why I was so uncomfortable in my gift when I got up.
00:22:16
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to sing at 10 years old I opened my mouth and nothing came out, I used to always lead all the solos in church. When I got up over my mouth, nothing came out that all of a sudden made me shy and afraid to say and do things like that right fear of judgment that's when my soul split from my body and she told me that. So when you go through this merger, you have to know how to breathe, you have to know
00:22:42
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Because it's intense. I won't tell nobody, no story listed. You can't come to her half-assing. You got to come correct when you come. But here's the thing. If you're getting the pulling, if it keeps coming up and all of that, that's her saying, you're ready. She calls you. You don't just go because you want to go. She calls you. Because I had tried to do ayahuasca several times before that. Pay for it. And the person refunded my money.
00:23:11
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which meant I couldn't go there, right? So this one, everything was seamless. And it was just, it was beautiful. It was beautiful. It's amazing. So how have your experiences with plant medicine informed what you're doing and your gifts? Have they reaffirmed them or have they advanced them? Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
00:23:37
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Listen, sometimes when you are an intuitive person, you sometimes will wonder, wait, am I crazy? Is that me? So when Golden Teacher told me, you know, every single person that you meet in your life is to help you grow and be a better person, right? So my first time with Golden Teacher, my son came to me first, then my daughter, then my best friend. And you know what she told me?
00:24:05
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That's why I'm your best friend so that you can work with me so that you can help and teach others because you're responsible. You're going to be helping the world. Now this is before the TV show or anything. You're going to be helping the world, but make sure that those around you are taking care of first. And I was like, yeah. If you're going to that same healing that you're going to give to others, give it to those around you. That's why we're here so that you can practice.
00:24:33
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My twin flame who I always felt like maybe, but I wasn't even thinking about them on my journey. My twin flame told me, I am your twin flame, but I've made another decision in this life. And it is okay. It doesn't mean that we won't ever be together again. It's just that in this life, I've made another decision. I made a different choice, but I still love you. And I have spoken to my twin flame since then. And she acknowledged, yes, my twin flame is a woman.
00:25:03
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in this life, right? And I date both. I don't judge about a sex of a person. I don't date them because of what they are, just like people. I love people. So she said that. So that enhanced that. The Tamarian Blue told me what I was supposed to do with my gift. And mother Aya, she said, get ready because you're going to change the world. Get ready.
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She said, it's time, no more running. And it was the most beautiful thing she did. She even had me to do an activation on myself. The first time when she did, she was cleared. At first I thought she was clearing my heart. Cause I thought I was holding on to something I didn't need, but she did one movie and it was my hand, but it was going so fast. I can't humanly possibly do that. I was clearing, clearing, clearing, clearing. Then she, it went over and it did like this.
00:26:04
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And then it started with that one. I knew what was going on, but I was like, yo, cleared me of whatever could have been going on. I don't know. I know I had a mammogram. I'm clear. Nothing is there. Right. But before, when I had one a few years ago, they saw, they saw something really little, but they didn't know what it was. So now there's nothing there. So when, and you hear people talk about mother Aya,
00:26:35
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There are people who will heal you like the minions and things like that. I didn't see any minions. I just talked to mother Aya and my soul, right? And she talked. Yeah, I wish I knew how to put it in the words, because I don't. And I can talk. But when it comes to that, I'm speechless, because I don't know the words to say. It was the most divinely orchestrated experience of my life.
00:27:04
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That's a common theme for psychedelic experiences. The power and the ineffability of them, for sure. And I mean, I can speak from experience as well. Mushrooms, especially, and DMT more recently for me as well. But yeah, I'm definitely I'm planning the ayahuasca ceremony. I really, really want to do that. Yeah, she's calling you. Yeah. So how was your DMT experience?
00:27:31
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Uh, fantastic. Um, so I've had two powerful ones. Um, I've done it a few times, um, because as you know, I'm sure the, the mechanism of smoking it is like kind of iffy. So you have to really get the technique right. So I didn't get the technique right until the last two previous times. And the first time now I'm not a Christian. I'm not a Catholic. I don't identify with any sort of organized religion in any way.
00:28:00
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Um, but what appeared to me in my vision was the mother Mary or some, some entity that looked like the mother Mary. And she was like guiding me through this like big area. I don't even know how to describe it. It was like this. She was in the, my field of vision, no matter where I was looking and obviously my body was still, but.
00:28:24
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She was moving me around this area and she was just stuck right in the center. And she was just feeding me love and feeding me just the most beautiful things in the world. And I mean, I can't even describe it.
Nurturing Spiritual Awareness in Children
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And the tears started to fall out of my eyes and it was just, it was beautiful. And she was telling me like, welcome, you know, like you finally made it because it was my first time that I finally broke through to that. And it was just amazing.
00:28:54
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Yeah. The second time was kind of crazy too. The second time was a little more intense. Um, the main visions that I saw were like these ancient looking women and it was like the sides of their heads and inside their brains were, and they were, there were a whole bunch of them. They were kind of like, uh, like stained glass all over my field of vision. And.
00:29:17
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inside their brains were fetuses like baby fetuses. And it like felt to me like this is the place where you go to like choose the soul of your baby or something like as crazy as that sounds. And it sounds it's not. Yeah, look, sounds right to me. Yeah, I yeah, I can see in your eyes that you you understand what I'm saying. But yeah, it's just beautiful.
00:29:47
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I wish more people could try it. Me too. I wish more people were open to the idea, but like you said, the social conditioning that we've all been so used to just beats these types of ideas out of us. I feel like we're closer to this when we're children because we can sort of effortlessly just spread joy and love and we don't have these weird restrictions that we put on ourselves to fit into a certain type of societal norm.
00:30:17
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Children are the closest thing to heaven. One of the things that spirit told me. I don't know I was having I have like these moments with God and we just talked, and so one of the things that God told me was when a baby is born. The reason that that soft spot is there and why we cannot touch it is because they're still receiving downloads they haven't fully incarnated into earth yet.
00:30:45
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Once that's closed, they are fully a human being. But while that soft spot is still there, that's why nobody should touch it, nobody should be there because they're still connected and still tied where we can't see the cord, but it's still there. And babies are still receiving those downloads and still receiving that information and still connected because it takes a moment. Can you imagine being under all this love and then all of a sudden you're in this place
00:31:13
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You know, it's like, who, who are you? You know, I know we don't look like what we look like there. You know what I mean? So, and when he said that to me when, when I was told that by them, by God, I was like, yo, that makes so much sense to me. Children are so, I don't know. They're just, they're so free. Yeah, they are. They are.
00:31:43
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They operate in freedom. And we try to tell them, sit down, be quiet. But that actually stunts their growth, that stunts their ability. We should let them, if they haven't a temper tantrum, I learned this at Rythmia. And I can't remember what they called it, but it was like when you, we would say, we take a breath and then we'd hit the floor and just scream. Yo, that felt like an orgasm at times. Cause it felt so good. And it's like, that's why you have to let children
00:32:13
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Instead of spanking them or being mad or saying stop, let them throw their tantrum. And when they're done, they will stop. But we've never been taught that, but you have to allow the energy to move in the body.
00:32:28
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Yeah. These things are not taught to us in schools. It's not taught to us by, they're not pushed to us through any institutions. This is, it's something you have to figure out on your own. So, and, but it seems like you started very young figuring this all out. I did. I did. I've always been different. I've always been different. Um, and I know that I was meant to do this. I remember when I was five.
00:32:55
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We were at church because my parents are big into the church. I'm just on the opposite spectrum, but they're heavy in the church. And it was a pastor that preached and I asked my mom if I could go, I wanted to go talk to him. So I went up to him and he was talking to all these other adults. Well, all I did was grab his hand. I didn't say anything. I just grabbed his hand. He stopped talking to all these adults and he said, whose child is this? Well, my mom thinking that he was saying, get your child. Cause she grabbed my hand, but that's not what he was saying.
00:33:25
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He was telling her, this child is full of power. You don't know who this baby is yet. And sometimes for myself, it's like, do I really know who I am? You know what I mean? I've always been the person that wanted everything to be about love. I've always, my friends, my family, they say I pick up people like stray dogs and stray cats.
00:33:56
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Because I just love people. And I've always been that way since I was a little girl. My mom said, you can't do nothing about yourself. It's not that I didn't want to do it by myself. It's just that I knew that that person couldn't do it unless they did it with us. And I wanted to bring it. I wanted everybody else to experience. Come on. Let's come over here with me. We're doing a cookout. It's going to be good food. That's just, I just wanted to give to everybody. So yeah, it started when I was very young.
00:34:26
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And I'm 50 now. 45 years ago is when I remember the first. So you imagine all the things that have happened now. When things happen, I relate or I align them. Oh, that's why that happens so that this could happen. Oh, you know, so now it's more fun to me because I'm maneuvering through life and it's still, it's always not easy.
00:34:54
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Cause people think when you get to a certain level, it's going to be easy. No, no, no, no, no. You still have things that you have to, but that's part of the growth process. You have to get yourself to fully, fully, fully accomplish your God self. And as long as you're having a human experience, that's a moment by moment, not day by day. That's a moment by moment task because the ego is sitting there all good and faithful.
00:35:22
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telling you, no, no, you can't do this. So when we are able to fully encompass our God self, where everything is based off love, and I think that psychedelics can help us do that.
00:35:37
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I totally agree. And another thing that I feel helps to silence that ego on your shoulder is when you start to see synchronicities and really notice them and pay attention to them and sort of follow them. That to me is where the rubber meets the road. That's like in your waking life, no drugs, nothing. When you can really see a synchronicity and you're not scared of it because some people get scared of them too.
00:36:03
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But for me, every time I see a synchronicity is just a big smile pops on my face and I'm like, yes. All right. There's another one. I love them. Even your show is a synchronicity for me because I've been learning the infinity breath. So by the name of your show, and then I have the infinity symbol on my body and I've been doing so, so like, I don't know it all is synchronicity. Like if you.
00:36:31
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For me it's all like that, like I met you. You know yeah it's just beautiful. License plates. I see those when I see double numbers on license plates or it doesn't matter what i'm doing or I wake up and I look at the clock and I see what time it is I start laughing. Okay, I got you. So yeah it's all beautiful.
00:36:52
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Yeah. I mean, just the way that I discovered you. I mean, I just started this podcast in January and I've been, you know, just fishing for guests, really, you know, trying to find people that I could resonate with. And I, and, uh, on Reddit, a dude named Christian Reeve posted that he was looking for guests and I was like, ah, cool. Like, let's, you know, let's collaborate. So we collaborated and during the podcast that we recorded for his show.
00:37:19
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Um, which I think he just released recently, he was, he was talking about you and I had no idea who you were at the time. He was telling me that he just had a podcast with like a very spiritual woman. And you know, we were sort of being, you were sort of saying the same types of things to him. And then.
00:37:35
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Like a week or two later, you know, I see he drops your podcast with him and I was like, Oh, interesting. So who's this person named free? I was like, her name is free. That's perfect. So I had to listen and I listened to it and I was like, man, I, I was even thinking, I was saying, I got to talk to this woman. And then when you said to him that you had taken ayahuasca, I was like, that's it. I gotta, I gotta figure out how do I get in touch with her and talk to her. And it just so happens that, you know, the universe made it happen and you know, here we are.
00:38:05
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Always, always. But the beauty of that is even deeper to me because we agreed to do this before we came to earth. You and I agreed to meet with each other on this day at this time before we came to earth for the betterment of mankind. So whomever hears this is who's supposed to hear it. I love that. Isn't that beautiful? Everybody that you encounter, even those people that you think hurt you,
00:38:36
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They love you so much until they're willing to be the one to make you go through something and hurt you so that you will hate them, so that they can make you grow. That's how much they love you. Like people say, they must really hate you. No, that's how much they love me because they had to agree for me to not be in a loving space with them because they had to hurt me. That took me some time to get to that point because I'm like anybody else, you know? Yeah.
00:39:02
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I could get mad and angry at one time a whole lot, but now it's about recognizing where that's coming from. Oh, okay, I got it. That's what that's for, you know?
00:39:16
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Yeah, when you see that, you understand that there really is like no such thing as hate. And my brother and I talk about this a lot because we, we run this podcast together and we talk about it quite a bit. It's like, hate is a reactionary emotion. It's not something that's real or tangible. It's, it's all based in love. Essentially we used the other spectrum of love. It's love on the other spectrum. That's all it is.
00:39:45
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Because they loved you enough for you to hate them. Oh. In that beautiful perfect. Beautiful.
Life Paths and Spiritual Awakening
00:39:59
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Beautiful. So, and when we get to that point, and we realize it.
00:40:03
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We'd be much better. And what were you going to say, baby? Oh, I was just going to, I wanted to get back to your trajectory through this whole thing. Um, did you say that your plant medicine experiences were before or after your professional, um,
00:40:20
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Like life in this realm, like, uh, the TV show and your business, which is called freedom, love experience. So did that stuff come after your plant medicine experiences or was it, was it sort of intertwined within? It was intertwined. So freedom, love experience has been around for a long time since that the word, the name of it. And that's just what I've been doing my readings under. So I've been doing readings prior to, um, it's just, it was intertwined. It just happened with it. Right.
00:40:49
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I started working on the TV show back in, I want to say the whole process started back in 2020. Right. Um, I had not done ayahuasca. I had not done japay. I love japay too. I do japay every day. I had not done any of those things. Um, I kind of sorted when I started doing it, I just went all in my first time doing japay. I want to say, I mean, um,
00:41:18
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Plant medicine, I want to say my first time was in 2020. 2020. Yeah, I believe that was my first time. And it's just sort of kind of been going like that, just been happening, happening, happening. I will tell you that my ayahuasca experience was November 13th through the 20th.
00:41:47
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My show launched November 22nd. Wow. So like right after. Right after. Right after. Yeah. Yeah. And I was wide open. How did that whole thing come about? Were you contacted by, it was a TLC show, correct? So were you contacted by them? So no, actually a casting director was looking for a psychic. And I said, oh, I am. I submitted myself. Cause they were looking for it.
00:42:16
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And that was back in November of 2019. And February of 2020, I got a call on my phone ring and she said, hi, I am such as such, such I'm the casting director and she said, let me just tell you, I have received hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of head shots and nobody was right.
00:42:44
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But when I saw you, I knew that it was you. And that's it. I had to do a series of interviews and in a series of interviews and then more stuff and then do a pile. I mean, a trailer, like a sizzle reel. And then from the sizzle reel, we did a pilot. So, you know, it just, yeah, it was a lot, but it was beautiful. It's, it's the most wonderful experience. Oh my God ever, because I had asked for it. Here's the thing.
00:43:12
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So I naturally, I have the gift of being on stage, doing stage performances, theater, and I love theater. But what I told God was, I wanna be on television, but I wanna do my gifts. I don't want it to just be me acting. I want it to be me. I wanna do my gifts. I said that, I started saying that back in 2014,
00:43:44
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No, 2016 is when I started saying it. Here we are. So that's why I want people to know delayed does not mean denied. Everything is about timing. The timing is everything because she had to be looking for a casting director to do that. TOC probably never would have put me on if Teresa Caputo was still on there. So her show had to run its course.
00:44:12
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and get the ending of where she needed it to be, you know, and then it can happen for me. It's all, it's all time. It's all time.
00:44:24
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Yeah, they say hindsight is 2020 when you look back and I mean, I love that quote because it's such a deep idea because when you do look back on things and you see how perfectly everything aligned and as we were saying, you know, if everything didn't happen exactly the way it did, we wouldn't be here right now speaking to one another. And it makes you wonder if this is sort of like a
00:44:49
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I don't want to say predetermined, but for lack of a better word is, is it in your view, like a predetermined trajectory for everyone's life or for every soul's physical incarnation? So what I think is everyone has free will. And I think your will to be, you will be whatever you will to be, because remember a person can make a choice. So if you make this choice, it could go this way. If you make that choice, it could go that way. So I think.
00:45:17
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that there are more than one outcome, but that more than one outcome will still lead you to that same road. You still will end up where you need to be, right? You might go left, I might go right. But we still will end up in that meeting point. So yes, I do feel like it's created.
00:45:45
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I feel like we co-created, but we already know what we're going to co-create because it's already destined. It's already predetermined, but we just have to enjoy the journey on the way to get there. And most people get hung up on the journey and they get tired and they fall off. It's not that you got to just keep going because you will get what it is that you desire. You will get any only reason that you have the desire in the first place is because it's already yours. The only reason you had a desire to do a podcast show is because you're meant to do one anyway.
00:46:16
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period. It's a fulfilling thing to do for sure. That's why you were meant to do as we are. It's yours. It's your calling. That's how you're going to show love. That is you doing your part to help the collective consciousness that's on this earth. Remember who they are. So people that get bogged, it is, it is beautiful. So.
00:46:42
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People that get bogged down in their life, like you were saying, and they get attached, they attach themselves to the negativity and they attach themselves to all the problems and they identify with negativity and hate and all of that. Do you think, is that, do they just have to take a dump? Do they just have to surrender and just shed themselves of all of that crap? Absolutely. Usually it is when you are at your lowest that you come out brand new.
00:47:11
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Because you have nowhere else to go. All you can do is take a shit. Because you don't have anywhere else to go. I want to put that in quotes. All you got to do is take a shit. I love it. I'm
Spiritual Practices and Final Thoughts
00:47:21
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telling you. I love it. That's it. Because if you think about every single person's story, their awakening always happened after they would have been at their lowest. One of my favorite books, it's even a movie, and I absolutely love it, is A Conversation with God.
00:47:40
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Neil Donna Walsh. I love, love, love that. But he was so down on his luck, he was even homeless. Do you know what I mean? And then he wouldn't never have heard what God was telling him to write if he hadn't have been in that moment where he was like, what, what do you want from me? He shut up long enough to hear what he wanted. And thus he created the book. Ah.
00:48:10
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It's beautiful. It's amazing. So that's the only time that we listen because we have nowhere else to go. So do you find that meditation is an important part of your practice? It is. And I can tell you, I don't meditate nearly as much as I should. What Ha Pei is doing, because I do it every day, is making sure that I stay on a regular meditation schedule because I'll get busy and do other things and be like, okay, I got to quiet my mind and quiet, you know,
00:48:41
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And then like I said, I do family meditation. The first one was 30 days. And then this one is seven days. That also is to help me stay on track. You know, it's like, okay, let's do this together. Um, but yes, I do feel like meditation is absolutely amazing meditation and pink Himalayan sea salt in Florida water. Sounds good to me, especially hearing this PA cold. Yeah. Yep. Absolutely.
00:49:10
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And mugwort tea, because I drink that too. I love mugwort tea. What exactly is that? It's one of my favorite teas. It is a tea leaf. It is a indigenous plant, really. It will give you lucid dreams. It clears negativity. You can smoke it. You can drink it. Instead of smoking weed, smoke some mugwort. Now pregnant, if you're pregnant or nursing, you probably shouldn't do it. Not probably, you shouldn't do it.
00:49:41
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And if you have asked me you can't burn it in the House because it's not good for you, but you can. use it to clear space use it to they call it a witch's brew type of tea or witches are. Well, I think we're all witches because which just means you do magic where everybody does some form of magic. So we all witches quit when they were it's beautiful, you know so, but it is a very get yourself, I want you to try it.
00:50:04
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You know, it's so funny because as you were saying that I think it was about a week or two ago, my mother.
00:50:11
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has shown me a picture on her phone. Shout out to my mom. She's the greatest. Love her. Hi, mom. She's great. And she showed me a picture on her phone of mugwort tea. And she said, I'm getting this. And just today, I was discussing with my brother what we're going to talk about on our next episode. And he was telling me that he has been drinking this dream tea, he called it. And I think that's what it is. So chalk up another synchronicity for us.
00:50:40
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Listen i'm telling you i'm telling you baby this thing is good. yeah I love my word to us better, but the bitterness doesn't bother me and it smells good when you burn it to me oh try to burn it in your house to clear your house. yeah I keep it.
00:51:05
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So what other things do you use? What other practices, substances, anything do you use to keep yourself in tune with your gifts? I do a lot of dancing. I like to listen to music, even if I'm sitting down. I like to move. I wrap my head a lot. And I didn't realize they were talking about this is the crown covering season. Well, I didn't know. I just knew that I wanted to keep wrapping my head. I felt like I wanted to do that.
00:51:34
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There is an artist called Moles, I think, M-O-S-E. And that's like, if you do cacao ceremonies, he does like those little... Oh my God. His music puts me in a trance. So I love it. Sometimes I speak in unknown language and that's how I clear myself as well. It just starts. And I know when it's ready to do it, I'll just... And it just starts going, going, going, going. Yeah.
00:52:04
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I'm very particular about what I watch and what I listen to. I try to do the 432 megahertz in music all the time, or gigahertz, whatever. 432 is very significant for me. It's funny because the stuff I watch is old stuff. I don't watch any new stuff. I watch like Murder, She Wrote, because that's funny to me, and Monk. But I don't watch a lot of other stuff.
00:52:34
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Cause I'm very careful about what I allow. And then I watch a lot of spiritually based movies, you know, or a lot of things that I can feel the love from the movie. That's really important to me. I used to watch touch by an angel all the time. Cause it just made me feel good. Even if some of the things that they were saying on there, I didn't agree with, but that's okay. Because the gist of the show is for me.
00:53:03
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And I personally feel like whatever a person is, whatever works for them, it works for them. You know what I mean? Like if you have to go to church every Sunday to feel your connection to God, then baby, please go every Sunday. There's nothing wrong with that. I totally agree. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever you have to do, but that's some things that I do. And I try to do retreats as well, where I bring people in and, um, yeah.
00:53:33
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Enjoy. So as we begin to wrap up a little here, what are some things you want to get out to the listeners? Some things that I want to get out to the listeners is remember who you are. Remember who you are. You are more powerful than you think. You are co-creating this thing with God, not praying for God to make it happen.
00:54:04
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You are co-creating with God and you will be what you will to be. So what are you willing to be? Love it. What are some of, uh, your upcoming events, projects, anything involving, uh, your business? Yes. Yes. So I have a radio show every Tuesday at 5 PM.
00:54:32
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It's called God is Unapologetically. I do it with my oldest daughter. No topic is, listen, we talk about everything, everything. So that's every Tuesday. I also have a retreat coming up for women. It's called God is Uninterrupted, brought to you by God is Unapologetically, where we're just allowing the women to unwind. And me and we have not forgotten about you,
00:54:59
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I feel like, when the women are healed, the men automatically will fall into place a lot of times, right? Because we give birth to the men, truthfully. So this is where there's no work, no cell phone, no nothing. We're going to spend this time to reconnect back with yourself, right? Spend time with you. Get to know you. Be pampered. And that's June 2nd through the 5th. If you would like to find out more about that, you can go to freedomloveexperience.com.
00:55:28
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That's freedom, love experience.com. And you'll see that retreat. We do have one coming up for the man and the women in August. That's brought to you by freedom, love experience. And that is unleashing and unlocking your inner God and goddess. Yeah. And there will be some plant medicine at that one. That's nice. I like to hear that. Well, free, this has been a real pleasure. Thank you so much for coming on the show.
00:55:57
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Oh, thank you so much for having me. I so adore you. I think you're amazing. Thank you so much. I think you're amazing. And I'm telling you, you're going to grow. Just hold on. It's happening. It's happening.