Introduction and Podcast Overview
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Hello, Sam. Hi, Jeff. Do you have anything else, Sam? Is there anything else?
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have any anything else sam is there anything else No, I'm good. I'm settled. Okay, good. Welcome to Down the
Podcast Platforms and Social Media
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Rabbit Hole. This is Jeff and Sam. I'm Jeff. And I'm Sam. And just right when we went to hit record, the moment I hit record, there's a whole 10 steps that happened before you record.
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The moment that I hit record, Sam was like... ah Wait. So then I stopped. Now we're here. It was a moment of panic. It a moment. It was a moment.
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ah Thank you for listening, people. you can find us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, iHeartRadio, and Amazon. Wherever you get your podcast, we are there. Share us with the world.
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You can reach out to us and find us on Instagram at downtherabbitholdepod, or you can send us a message on Gmail at downtherabbitholdepod at gmail.com.
Potential Podcast Renaming
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And um welcome to the Vortex of Fuckery. This is Sam's Vortex of Fuckery.
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um You're absolutely a part of that. I am. I guess it's Jeff and Sam's Vortex. Should that be the name of the show? Vortex of Fuckery. Two competing airstreams there.
Daily Life and Activities
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ah I didn't see you yesterday. did ah we didn't even I didn't do anything yesterday, not even a little bit. In fact, I took the longest nap in the afternoon. oh was it lovely?
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Yeah, I was exhausted. I don't even know why I was so tired. i've been I've been yeah, too. Like Tuesday and Wednesday, I was beat.
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But yesterday, i mean it was beautiful outside, so... I know. Did it work out and then went outside late in the sun. Felt a little guilt for being like taking a nap while it was so pretty outside, you know?
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Just got to learn how to sleep in the sun. Yep. That's what I do um Just like this. ah Exactly. That's the way to do it. They call it lizard naps. But I was okay. I took a big nap. I watched some TV last night. i Honestly, okay,
Movie Review: Anora
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wait. Stop. Rewind.
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Flip it. Reverse it. Reverse it. A good one. What did you think of the movie Anora? Because I think on the last show, we were leaving to go see Anora that night. Give me your thoughts.
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I mean, I know your thoughts, but give these lovely people that are listening your thoughts on the movie Anora.
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ah There's no gentle way to say it. It was fucking amazing. It was so well done. And i know that we've talked about this. We talked to Kim about it afterwards. But, you know, it's it's described as this Cinderella story, right? um But there's something that happens in the movie where...
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It's just there's a twist that happens and you kind of want things to to go a certain way and then something else happens and you're going, oh, wait a second. I kind of like that idea.
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And she such a fucking badass. Oh, my God. She was a badass. like And the ah the whole reason why I wanted to see this movie was because that man, i don't know his name, the producer, the one that edited the movie, Sean Baker. I think that's his name. Sean got up and he won three Oscars that night.
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I don't even really care for the Oscars. I just watched it. And he ah won three Oscars. And in one of his speeches, he thanked the sex workers whom he had interviewed for because they told them they told his their stories to him. They shared their stories with him and he thanked them for it. And I was like, well, that's fucking awesome that he thanked the sex workers.
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And that helped make this movie, which I found to be so refreshing. Honestly, we laughed for the first hour. It was like a little bit of... It was hilarious for the first hour.
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and then at the second hour, you're like, what? It was so good. It was so, so good. Yeah. Definitely not a family movie.
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um If you're dating somebody new, maybe don't take them to it. Awkward. Yeah. um But, you know, if you're and a platonic half marriage like Jeff and I are, it was perfect.
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It was... Yeah. And you could tell, you could tell that he did such a good job. Amen. And the actors, i don't even know the Russian people that were in the movie.
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They were great. I'm obsessed with them. They were great. And the woman that played in Nora, ah feel bad because I don't even know her name right now, but she was fantastic in the movie. What a good experience. And I can tell you it was a good experience because there were five of us that went that night and we all walked out of the theater smiling because that just made us feel so good. It was something, it was a positive experience.
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It was great. yeah It was, oh.
Italian Dinner Experience
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we went to oh We went to dinner beforehand as well that night. Some Italian food. ah So good. Your favorite. we We gave the um the poor waiter such a hard time because we're sarcastic and flat and deadpan sometimes. But also he was sarcastic and he gave it back, which I love that. Yeah, he did. And by hard time, I mean we were just st joking with him. He was lovely. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We weren't actually assholes. No. as
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Can you imagine being one of those assholes that are mean to... Take this back. Please. Oh, yeah. To all you that are that way. I get that that's you, but just don't come into my vortex of fuckery. Have some self-awareness.
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You're an asshole to people that serve you food and... I don't know. Have a little self-awareness, right? How's that spit taste? Exactly.
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Goodbye, Earl. Goodbye, Earl. Okay. um Are we there? Are we done talking? Oh, no, I did.
Books and New Shows
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So I kind of started a show last night.
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How do you have so much room for all of these shows? I literally didn't do anything yesterday, and I was bored last night. And I was somebody at Orange Theory yesterday, the coach, Allie. She recommended a show on Hulu.
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I'm putting it on my list. Called Paradise. Paradise. I've seen that advertised. Yes. it's It's a little bit great music. Interesting storyline.
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A little bit dystopian. I'm living it. Yeah. You don't really understand what's happening. Like you finished the first episode. Well, at least me. Maybe I'm not that smart.
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I finished the first episode and I was like, what? What just happened? You know? Okay. And then you go a little bit further into the second show and you kind of understand what you're... It's really interesting. I like it.
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I'm going to watch the third one tonight. Maybe the fourth one. Okay. Well, it's on my list. That's a long list, but you keep reading Harry Potter, so I don't think you're going to get there. I have nothing to say to that. There's nothing wrong with me rereading Harry Potter for the 900th time. A lot of people agree with you on that.
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Yeah. I don't think there's anything wrong with it either. My sister goes, because yeah I've been reading all of her romanticcy, epic romanticcy, whatever, like dragon smut books, right? um Love them.
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Very, very pleased with what she's introduced me to. um Okay. I love the word dragon smut. The description dragon smut. mean, there's no other way to describe it. I probably did that wrong. So for all of those romanticcy people in the world, I'm sorry if I offended you.
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But um so I just kind of needed a ah ah break from that. so ah to So I was like, oh, like what better palate cleanser than Harry Potter?
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My sister goes, what? That is a seven book palate cleanser. That's not what a palate cleanser is, Sam. Like you need a book that's just going reset you. And I said, yeah, but. Harry Potter. So of course I'm going to do it.
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The covenant of water. That's 900 pages. It's so not going to be your type of book. Also not a palate cleanser. You need something that's just going to wash your brain out and just like make you not think. And Harry Potter, i know it so well at this point that there are times where I'm like, I don't even know if I actually read that page. I think I just read the top and the bottom and like filled in the rest of my memory.
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I've read those long time ago. i read those. Ashley bought me the set. Yes. It comes in the little more trunk. Yeah, i have that. Okay. Are you ready do this? Yeah, yeah,
April Episode Preview
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yeah. Okay. So first and foremost, what are you drinking? I'm drinking a bubbly ah blue pomegranate, blueberry pomegranate.
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Oh, I am drinking a bubbly Bellini bliss. I thought you would like that. I think I will too.
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Here we go. um And who we're there. listen to the fizz. um like the fizz.
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Should we cheer Squares? should always cheer Squares. Cheers, Squares. How does it taste?
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That is delightful. Great. That is delightful. Way to go, Bubbly. Yeah, that's good. They've they've impressed us the past couple times. but We're also drinking a tropical smoothie.
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Detox Island Goddess or whatever. that what you got too? got the same thing? Because any of the other ones has like 400 carbs in it. And God bless. Not Chris approved. Not Chris approved. And not Chris approved. No, not nearly enough protein for the amount of carbs. I love the text he sent us today. Oh, that made me so happy.
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Okay. And now we flip a coin.
Astronauts' Space Adventure
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oh it's April. um my God. This show comes out in April. Oh, I'm so happy. You just looked at your watch like, is it?
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Is it April? It's not yet. Not yet. I was wondering. And this is April 3rd. That's when this show comes out. You will have already gone on your little trip to an island in the middle of nowhere.
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I'm going to come back just so relaxed and work in my way every step closer to being one of those old wrinkly little leather handbags. I can't wait. Perfect.
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Life goals. Uh-huh. There you go. Okay. Coin time. And stop. Oh, the good old school one from the Switzerland festival.
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So it's like the cork board or cardboard or whatever it is. So you are going to be the Deport Jeton Buffon.
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Oh, I think I've been that one before. have. I'm just the blank one.
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And she dropped it. It went so much farther than I was like, oh, God. And now she's looking for the coin. God, it's so far away.
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I think your hip's going pop out. Honestly, it almost did. What side did it land on? It landed on you. How does it always land on me? just It's just your cosmic fabulosity. Speaking of cosmic fabulosity, you set me right up for that one. Did you see that those two astronauts are back on Earth? They went there for 10 days. They got stuck there for nine months.
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Yo, that would be us. Never go. Not going to say never. Planning a trip to space after the trip to London and our detour along the way. It was all fun, but jokingly.
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I'm hard pressed to go to space with you. Some like some shit like that would happen us. Listen, we'll make up for it in Alabama, okay? Okay. Perfect. um Okay. Are you ready?
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Indeed. Are you ready? No. Yeah, I am. Jesus, he's the most dramatic. Please go, sir. Okay.
Mary Vincent's Survival Story Begins
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Thank you for your permission.
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Sometimes court documents are kind of boring. And the experience of witnesses, law officers, victims, and defendants, it's their experience presented at the trial, right?
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Feelings and sensations are irrelevant, so they're left out. Emotions and guesses, left out. Moments inherently complicated where boundaries of the law are tested, they have to be stripped bare.
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You have to be objective and impartial. That's how the law should work, right? Take one but particular document randomly archived that details a trial, one that surrounded an incident on February afternoon in 1997.
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Listed under the state's case, an eyewitness account given by a house painter working in Florida in a suburb detailed what he saw through the window of a home that he was hired to work on. a man, the homeowner, strangling a naked woman.
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The account recalls the bone-crushing sounds that came each time that the man struck her, but it didn't articulate just how it felt for the painter to kick at the front door as he heard the woman crying for help.
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In the same section, the notes of the officer called to the home marked his arrival time at 6.23, but the notes didn't say what the officer felt when his knock at the door was answered by an elderly man in boxers and an unbuttoned shirt with blood smeared across his chest.
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It documents the jittered excuses the old man gave, ah disagreement with his girlfriend, an accident chopping those vegetables, before the officer forced his way through the door, through the home, to find the body of a woman lying face down.
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It doesn't say whether the sight of her closed eyes gave him any hope that she may be conscious, or whether her skin was still warm or had gone cold by the time he tried and failed to respond.
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The victim was Roxanne Hayes, and she had been stabbed seven times. But the journalists who discovered the story weren't reporting on it. They weren't really interested in Roxanne.
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Roxanne was a mother of three kids, and she was also a sex worker. And unfortunately, sex workers are often overlooked. They were more interested in the man who had committed the violent crime, and his name was Lawrence Singleton.
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Because 20 years earlier, Singleton had committed another violent crime, and the victim, Mary, she wasn't surprised at all. There was a little bit of pain in Mary's voice when she heard, and she responded by saying, he destroyed everything about me.
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So this is the survival story of Mary Vincent. You do love yourself a survival story. I do, I do. It's a good setup, I like this. So nearly 20 years earlier, in September of 1978, Mary was standing on the side of the road. She was somewhere in Berkeley, California. She had a sign in her hand saying that she was headed south.
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She faced the direction of oncoming traffic, determined to hitch a ride. Mary was from Las Vegas. She was a middle child in a military family of seven children. She was the lead dancer in a show called Lido de Paz.
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Perry, a prestigious cabaret who frequently skipped school and liked breaking her parents' rules. She was also a scared child who ran away at 15 to save her own life when her sister said, Dad's coming home with a migraine and he's in a rage and he's going to direct it all toward you, Mary.
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From there, she traveled to California. In the summer of that year, Mary, who was 15 or 16 at the time, went from place to place place, from person to person, as if constantly searching for a place to claim her own.
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She spent some hot nights in the car of her short-lived boyfriend near San Francisco until he was arrested for rape of another teenage girl. Mind you, that boyfriend was 26 and marries 15 or 16, so we know what he is.
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She lived with an uncle just outside of Santa Cruz, and on that fateful September evening, there she was, ready to hitchhike to Los Angeles. Do you know this story?
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Okay. Okay. After a while, a man driving a blue van pulled over next to Mary, who stood beside two other hitchhikers. All three of them were hoping to go in the same direction and hoping to get a ride together.
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The driver was older, he had a big belly, and to Mary he looked like a grandpa type of figure. He didn't tell her his name, so she only knew him as the man offering her a ride that would take her south on I-5 freeway.
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This was Larry Singleton. the man was notice ah The van that he was in was noticeably empty with space for all three travelers. Yet he insisted on only taking Mary, saying had just enough room for her and her alone.
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While the two weren't offered a ride, the other two weren't offered a ride, they told Mary not to go with him. Mary ignored their are concerns. She got into the passenger seat. She ignored the two gallon milk jugs that he had filled with alcohol before hitting the road.
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and the way he drank them as he drove toward I-5. She ignored the passes he made at her as he tried to pull close to her before she moved out of his reach. Exhausted, she ignored the warning signs.
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You know, and not that is not to at all victim blame, but sometimes in like Mary, you got to do what you got to do to get to where you need to go, and that's all she was doing. Instead, she settled in and she fell asleep.
Mary's Escape and Legal Proceedings
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When she woke up, it was dark outside. She looked up through the windshield and she started to panic. You're going the wrong way and you know you're going the wrong way. Above them, the road signs told her that they were headed toward Nevada, the opposite direction that he promised.
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Angry and afraid, Mary felt like she was feeling around under her seat and she felt a stick, so she held it in front of him. She said, turn around right now. He did as she asked. He turned around, only soon to pull over and stop, telling her he needed to pee before he got out of the car.
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He was going to get out of the car to relieve himself. As he walked away, she looked down and realized that one of her shoes was untied. She was sure she could outrun him. She could outrun the old man if she had to, but her show her shoes would need need to be tied.
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Stepping out of the car, she bent over and began to loop the laces together. She stooped down, her gaze lowered, and she did not see him coming up behind her. Singleton struck Mary in the head with a sledgehammer.
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ah Mary woke up in the back of the van, having been knocked out. Now she's tied up, completely naked, with the driver hovering over her. He began sexually assaulting her, over and over, ignoring her cries, her pleas to be set free, her promises not to tell any anyone if he did.
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Stopping to sleep for a short period of time, or maybe to drive to the nearby canyon, each time returning to assault her once again. Mary was awake for it all, unable to escape her constraints even As he slept, she watched the sun begin to rise, the light of it inevitably seeping through the windows of the van.
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As morning came, the man pulled Mary out from the back seat and removed the rope from around her. He looked at her and said, you want to be free? I'll set you free. And then he pulled out a hatchet, pulling, pulling back the hatchet, striking below her elbow in just three swings. He cut off her left arm.
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Mary felt the shock of the pain, hot, slick blood run down her body as she fell to the ground. He started to cut into her right arm, but it took a lot longer. As she began to kick and scream and grab him, she hoped desperately that someone might hear her screams.
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But when she was finished, but when he was finished, she grew still. Her blood spilled across the pavement. From where she was lying on the ground, she could see him flicking his arm back and forth the width of his body.
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She's laying on the ground. She didn't understand what he was doing until she saw his right on her right arm attached to his forearm. So now he severed both of her arms.
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And her right arm still had a grip on his forearm. But she's laying on the ground. she didn't This was hard for her brain to process. Understandably. Right? So now both arms are gone.
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Maybe she looked dead. Perhaps that's why he picked her up and tossed her off of the edge of the road over 30-foot canyon cliff. She went all the way down to the bottom of the 30-foot canyon.
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Then he climbed down after her and he stuffed her into a nearby drainage culvert before climbing back up.
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Against the cool concrete that encased her body, Mary was barely alive. Four ribs broke in her 30-foot fall, but she continued and she continued to bleed at bleed out from her arms.
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Not knowing if the man had left her to die or if she was if he was still waiting for her, she was tired and she was cold. She wanted to close her eyes and she wanted to go to sleep, to let go.
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but she heard a voice in her head. i can't go to sleep. He's going to do this to somebody else, and I can't let that happen. Moving her way out of the culvert, she stuck up what remained of her arms into the earth of the canyon.
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The mixture of blood and dirt created a mud bandage that she somehow knew would slow the bleeding. Then she began to climb. By the end, she reached the cliff's edge,
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It was night. By the time that she reached the top of the cliff, it was night. Her attacker was gone and the road was empty. A memory came to her of cutting her finger as a child, and her mother said, hold it above your heart to slow the bleeding.
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Standing alongside of the road, she lifted what was left of her arms over her head. She walked for nearly three miles. She followed the sound of the nearby highway. The only light was the night sky.
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In the distance, she saw headlights, a convertible with two young men. She could see and she could hear them getting closer. She knew that they saw they saw her too.
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As she stood in the road waiting, instead of slowing down, they sped up. They intentionally passed her. Naked, caked in dirt and blood, with her severed arms held high, she was afraid that she was going to die.
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Not from her injuries alone, but because she was too horrifying to approach. ah Then again, she saw headlights. This time, an old truck. It came.
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It slowed down. It stopped. The front doors opened. It was a couple on their honeymoon who had gotten lost, stepped out, and led her back to their car. Across the back seat, Mary could hear the tires of the truck's pill as they sped off down the road.
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ah phone call later, Mary was airlifted to the hospital. She was told that she had lost over half of the blood in her body. Jesus. while the blood that remained became toxic or septic.
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In her attack, the body her body and her mind had been torn, drained, and poisoned, yet somehow she held on to both of them. Ten days later, with the description Mary had given as she recovered in the hospital, police identified and arrested her attacker where he lived.
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she they did They came up to her, the police sketch artist, and they said, can you tell me what he looks like? Based on the description she gave to that man and the thing that he drew, they immediately identified him.
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His neighbor saw this on the news and called and was like, that is my neighbor, Lauren Singleton.
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um Lawrence Singleton and the atrocities he committed toward Mary Vincent quickly became the worst kind of infamous. single Singleton described Mary as a drugged out call girl who threatened to hurt him and say that he he raped her if he didn't do as she asked.
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He would insist that in reality, two other hitchhikers he picked up were Mary's true attackers. And he was entirely framed for the crimes that he was charged with. that was He was the real victim.
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This insufferable defense, along with the inarguably shocking and gruesome nature of the attack, left him depicted and dismissed as a one-dimensional monster. Once more, scattered hints and implications only form a splintered image.
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His alcohol problem began when he was stationed in Korea and would follow him throughout his life, ending his first marriage in 1971, continuing on to his second in He was an angry drunk, and that would be aimed at the women around him, ultimately ending his relationship with his daughter.
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He would then divorce from his second wife a year later, meaning that this attack would have occurred the same year that his wife left him. Years later, psychologists, ah psychological evaluations conducted on Singleton would find evidence of atypical psychosis, traits of a personality disorder, and damage in all measurable regions of the brain.
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Six months after her attacker's arrest, wearing a prosthetic, two prostra prosthetics that she had been fitted for, Mary stepped into a San Diego courthouse and faced Singleton for the first time since he tried to kill her.
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On the witness stand, she was terrified. Her attacker sat only a few feet away as she reopened all of her wounds. When she was finished testifying, her only exit forced her to move directly past Singleton.
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Now he was just inches away, and as she walked past, he whispered to her, If it's the last thing I do, i will finish the job. ah yeah Fucked up, right?
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The hushed, deadly threat had Mary turning pale and running out of the courtroom. And her fears only increased when she heard the sentence. Despite being convicted of attempted murder, kidnapping, rape, sodomy, forced oral copulation, and aggravated mayhem, he was sentenced to only 14 years in prison.
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The maximum sentence in California at the time. Now, people in California were pissed off. Outrage surrounding his sentence his sentencing would rise again when Singleton was paroled after serving merely eight years and three months due to good behavior and a prison program that allowed inmates to work their time off their sentence.
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According to the state's parole board and its laws, Singleton was ready and safe to reenter society. Now think about that. He was ready and safe to enter society. He's no longer a threat. Yeah, right. The entirety of California objected to the idea of Singleton living in their state.
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In what might be described as a strange game of parole-y hot potato, each city where Singleton was placed rejected him. Entire counties placed temporary restraining orders on him. One city's ah petition to have him banned received over 10,000 signatures.
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On several occasions, Sigleton had to be escorted by the police out of what was to be his quiet permanent residence, pushing past hundreds of protesters, screaming and waving signs, denouncing his presence.
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Police even had to put him in bulletproof vests to get him out of these situations. Hmm. after months on the parole After months of the parole being, like where he was lived, being constantly moved and removed across city lines, a trailer was placed on the grounds of San Quentin, where he had been imprisoned, where he lived until his parole expired in 1988, less than 10 years from the day he saw a young girl on the side of the road and decided to offer her a ride.
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Lawrence Singleton left the grounds of San Quentin. While many wanted him to go to Florida, where he was known to have family, his destination was entirely in his control. He was now a free man.
Mary's Life Post-Attack
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The same couldn't be said about Mary Vincent. While she survived, the trauma left... behind cascaded early on beyond ah the constant reminders that hung at her side surgeons had to take part of her leg in order to save her right arm ending her career as a dancer in her return to las vegas she began to understand her new reality as a public spectacle She enrolled in school and a school for the handicapped.
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Her old friends drew away from her. And even after the trial, media outlets bombarded her. Her already strained relationship with her parents worsened. ah she'd say later in her life, they were more interested and what they felt about what happened to me rather than what I felt about what happened to me.
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Her father started collecting guns and plotting ways to kill Singleton, and loud fights became a regular facet of the home and mary was ah that she was so desperate to go back to.
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She left again, traveling until she found a small town in Washington State to settle down in There, she got married, became a mother, something that she had dreamed of doing since she was four years old.
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For a moment, she was allowed to have the home that she had been trying to reach. Then Singleton was released from prison, then from parole. Mary hadn't forgotten the promise that he made to her in court that day.
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To finish, what he said started the day he decided to end her life. Her fear was only made more tangible when Singleton said he planned to spend his first few days of freedom visiting Washington State, where Mary was known to be living.
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She began to move frequently, too afraid of staying in one place for a long time. um She took her two sons with her. They would move with her. With the looming threat of another attack and the imposing hounding force of the media, her marriage fell apart.
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Her income became limited to disability checks, insufficient or never paid court settlements because she won $2 million dollars in court, but he's a piece of shit. So she never got that.
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When one home was repossessed within months of her overborrowing on a down payment, she and the boys she referred to as her little men lived in an unheated, abandoned Arco station in the icy winter months.
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With her children, Mary felt the push to keep fighting and keep going, even in moments she didn't really want to. and the fear and anticipation of her attacker's return, with the knowledge of what he was capable of, Mary couldn't be free.
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And so in the early months of 1997, when she learned of Singleton's arrest for the murder of Roxanne Hayes, she couldn't help but feel relieved.
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I mean, the man had spent so much time. She had spent so much time fearing he would come after her, but now he was locked up again. But to say that this was all that she felt was not right because, um,
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Then multiple news outlets came crashing into her life again, pushing her to rehash her trauma. She mourned all the while she was mourning for the life of Roxanne. She couldn't stop thinking about Roxanne or reliving her own encounter with Roxanne's murderer, Singleton.
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In those thoughts and recollections, she did recall the voice that had told her to stay awake all those years ago, that told her she couldn't let him hurt anyone else. Could she not help but imagine herself in the last moments of Roxanne's life?
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At night, in the trailer park that was her home, the nightmares she had recently gotten over... that often made her scream and dislocate her joints when she fell from the bed, returned in the wake of the murder.
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A year after Roxanne's death, her children sat quietly in the second row of a Florida courtroom, all dressed in black. Akeena, 11 years old, who was the one who had to identify her mom, Clifton, who was eight, and the youngest was Malachi, he was four,
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In his testimony, Singleton told another tale of victimhood and misunderstanding, of a sad old man who asked Roxanne to come over more for company than for sex, that she was the one who tried to stab him, and in his struggle for the knife, she had somehow stabbed herself seven times in the face, in the body, and the stomach, that she had asked him to hold her in his arms as she died.
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The following week, somebody else would testify in a Florida courtroom. Mary. Honey, Mary made that journey from Washington State to Florida. she was She was done with him.
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So the following week, Mary raised her right prosthetic hand before the courtroom in Florida and gave her testimony at his sentencing. Right there in front of Lawrence Singleton for 10 minutes while Singleton sat emotionless, she retold her story, looking at him in the eye, physically pointing to him and identifying him as the man who had attacked her.
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This time, when she walked out of the courtroom, he said nothing. Again, people saw through his story, and he was found guilty after less than four hours of deliberation. Singleton received the death sentence, but he died of cancer three years after receiving this sentence. Bastard.
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Mary Vincent became an aspiring artist who works with chalk pastels to create powerfully upbeat women like female action figures. She draws family and individual portraits on commission.
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Her customized prosthetics are also self creations, including a custom prosthetic for bowling because she likes to bowl. Oh, She still has nightmares that will likely never go away.
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Her shoulders ache every single day as she held up her prosthetics to walk her dogs, play pool or embrace her sons. And this is ah quote from the article that I read. It's going to be in the show notes.
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It says a pattern is etched in the narratives that fail to adequately portray the truth. A paradigm that maybe exemplifies an inherent human instinct to pick and choose elements of fact or a particular life as a story is woven around a desired tone, effect, or moral.
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To be a victor or a victim, to be tragic or happy ending. There's a comfort in simplistic, the essential, the linear. But if any conclusion can be drawn from Mary's story, it isn't that life is comfortable or clear or chosen.
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It's complicated. It's felt. And before anything else, it's lived. And that is the survivor story of Mary Vincent. Damn. Did you like that? it i mean, the story was horrible, but you did a very good job.
Reflecting on Trauma and Strength
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Thank you. But you know, I think about after I tell these stories of these survivors, ah I think there's so much trauma that they have to deal with and losing your arms, that just, the whole body's connected from head to toe. This is what we used to say with mom after she went through what she went through.
00:35:56
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The whole body is connected from head to toe. So when one, if your knees hurt, then your hips hurt. If your hips hurt, then your back hurt. And not to even mention the emotional trauma.
00:36:10
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You know? It's probably still a nightmare for her every day. i mean, good for her for going to testify against him. Like, it's a shame that he died before he could get executed. But that fucking always happens. Yep.
00:36:26
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Ugh. Glad he got what he deserved. Mm-hmm. a degree. Mm-hmm. That was good. Way to go, Mary. Mary kick ass.
00:36:39
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Damn. Kick ass and paint a picture. There you go. Okay. um Mine's on a very different level.
Finnish Soldier's WWII Tale
00:36:50
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Good. Cheer us up.
00:36:52
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So this is one of the stories that was sent as a recommendation. So now that we know that recommendations are coming. And I do apologize because I gathered all the recommendations up and I just passed them on. And I cannot remember who it's from. Maybe when you're telling me out because I don't know what it is.
00:37:07
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Maybe I'll remember okay who sent it to us. Well, whoever did send it, I thoroughly enjoyed it. Oh, good. So you thought you had a bad trip, huh?
00:37:20
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We have a lot of experience with people high on a multitude of different substances. I'm sure we all have the fun, and I'm not really sure that that's the correct word to use here, but, you know, maybe that's just the dark ER humor.
00:37:33
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ah stories about interactions with patients who have taken or ingested plenty of different things. So we've got the marijuana stories from just a few years ago when all of the Woodstock babies who used to smoke weed all the time started using what they thought was weed or weed products. And it's, they realized that it was a totally different strain and it was a totally different monster.
00:37:54
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um and We've got our,
00:37:59
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tale as old as time, PCP and cocaine and meth stories. PCP is the worst. Being an ER nurse. I've never seen anything like that.
00:38:10
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But you know what? And this is, maybe this is, just makes me so fucked up, but I love it. It's like, it it it is It creates monsters. Literally very strong monsters. Absurd. Yeah. Like flip the stretcher with one hand kind of. And we've seen that. you know, we've lived We've been on the receiving end of, whoop, don't get too close.
00:38:32
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Mm-hmm. in the ER, we get to hear and experience all sorts of exciting and absolutely bonkers stories. This is one of those stories, and i would have loved to have been a nurse taking care of this guy.
00:38:49
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In 1938, Temler Pharmaceuticals developed a little pick-me-up capsule that seemed to cure depression, provide a boost of energy while decreasing fear and hesitation. This medication was called Pervitin, and it could be it could be obtained over the counter.
00:39:08
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In the what decade? It was 1938. Oh, nineteen thirty s It was essentially a quick-acting, swallowable form of pure crystal meth.
00:39:20
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Oh, shit. With war so close on the horizon, German doctor Otto Rönke began testing Pervitin on college students. The effects were such that he suggested providing soldiers with it.
00:39:33
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Oh, scheisse. This little gem gave the Nazis an edge. The soldiers didn't need to sleep and they could march through many nights with ease. Thus, in the spring of 1940, they issued the Stimulant Decree and sent 35 million doses of meth to the front lines.
00:39:53
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But they called it a pretty name. Pervitin. This is your daily dose of Pervitin. Drink with the orange juice. The Allied forces... took a page from the Nazi book and began providing their soldiers with small doses as well.
00:40:07
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Because if they're doing it, we might as well be on the same level. don't should do it. This allowed them to fight off the fatigue associated with constant combat. Over the next four years, obviously there was a lot going on, but we're going to focus on Finland.
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Throughout the war... This a great story. Finland played many roles. They allied with Germany to fight off so Soviet invasion and then invade the the Soviet Union. And then they fought with the Allies against Germany.
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Aimo Koivinen was born October 17th, 1917. Not much is known about his early life, except that he was the eldest of six children. He grew up to become a soldier. And by World War Two, he was a corporal.
00:40:50
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While the Soviet Union thought they could just roll through Finland, take it quickly and quietly, and then move on, he was part of the forces that resisted. It cost them too much and much more than they were expecting, and thus eventually gave up.
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Aimo was an upstanding soldier and did not like the idea of taking pills, so he didn't take any, and he was in control and possession of the Pervitin for his entire unit. On March 18th, 1944, his unit woke up on the third day of a patrol with temperatures hovering around negative 15 degrees Celsius. Yeah, I would die.
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Right. By 10 a.m., m they were stopped to make a small fire for warmth and to make some tea because, you know, everyone likes tea. One gunfire broke out nearby. As the unit fled to avoid being surrounded, Imo was in the lead.
00:41:42
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So he was responsible for cutting a path through the multiple feet deep snow. He couldn't let his men down. Their lives depended on him to keep pushing.
00:41:52
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He could hear some of them calling out to him not to stop. But Imo was exhausted from plowing a path through the snow. His only option was to keep going. In order to push through the exhaustion that was rapidly overtaking him, he realized that he would have to take his purvitin.
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He took out the bag of his unit's meds. Unfortunately, his gloves were so thick that he couldn't grab a single pill. He didn't have time to stop and remove the gloves or to hesitate.
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He poured the contents of the bag out into his hand. am putting my hand over my mouth because I know what he's going to He took 30 doses of pure crystal meth in one swallow.
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For a few moments, he felt amazing. In his supercharged state, he was able to push through the snow so rapidly and continue going without stopping.
00:42:47
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As he got farther away from the encroaching... It's so good. It's so good. So bad. So good. As he got farther away from the encroaching troops, his vision began to blur.
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He recalls that his last thought before blacking out was, that perhaps was a mistake.
00:43:09
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He regained awareness the next day. Oh my God. He had continued moving and crossed approximately 100 kilometers through the untouched snow, and he was completely alone now.
00:43:22
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He had nothing. No. He had no food or ammunition. He was in possession of the skis on his feet and an empty gun on his back. After a bit of confusion, he saw his comrades up in the distance, or so he thought.
00:43:37
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He had a heated argument with them, but rather himself, about his whereabouts and which way they should go. He won the imaginary argument with his hallucination and skied down a hill. I love that for him.
00:43:51
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Maybe the next evening, because time didn't really move correctly for him, ah he thought he saw another Finnish camp. He did, in fact, see campfires in the distance.
00:44:02
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He picked up his pace and was going so fast that he couldn't stop. And he skied right into and then right through ah Soviet camp. Oh, my God.
00:44:14
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But the way they describe it. was like He was a bullet shot from a gun He was moving so fast that he just didn't didn't stop. And he they said that even like some of the soldiers Soviet soldiers were so confused, they like picked up their feet and like jumped out of the way because they were like, what's happening?
00:44:33
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The Soviets were so confused and startled by his sudden appearance and then very rapid disappearance that they scrambled to get a group to follow him. But they were way too slow to keep up with him. So Imo kept skiing.
00:44:44
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For 24 hours, he kept moving. His hunger finally began to become a apparent, but he had no food. So he ate some pine cones to keep the hunger at bay. Oh my God.
00:44:56
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At one point, he removed his skis to walk. um but He's going to shit out a pine tree.
00:45:04
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So he takes his skis off to walk. But then at that moment, he steps on a German landmine. Oh God. According to his memoirs, when he landed, he looked down at his leg to see bones sticking out in different directions, and the muscles looked like they had been grated.
00:45:21
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About 300 feet away, he saw what appeared to be an abandoned shack, so he crawled to it, dragging his disfigured left leg. When the door opened, the shack exploded. The Germans had rigged it to explode.
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He was thrown 100 feet away, and when he landed, he still had his hand clutched around the doorknob.
Conclusion and Thanks
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Just as he began losing hope, a Siberian Jay landed next to him in the snow.
00:45:46
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He beat it to death with one of his ski poles and ate it raw. He was somehow miraculously found by a Finnish patrol on March 31st. Okay.
00:45:57
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okay He told them that he had been there for, i don't know, maybe a week or so. The soldiers thought he was out of his mind and they weren't entirely wrong. It had been 14 days alone, missing without any food in sub-zero Arctic temperatures high on crystal meth. Oh my God.
00:46:18
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When he arrived at the hospital on April 1st at 2 a.m., 15 days after taking a handful of meth pills, his heart rate was still consistently over 200 beats per minute, and he weighed 94 pounds.
00:46:32
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After such an impossible and miraculous adventure, he recovered from his little overdose and lived to be 71 years old. Fun fact, when you graduate with a PhD in Finland, you get a sword and a top hat.
00:46:49
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I just thought you should know that because it's just so badass. A sword and a top hat?
00:46:56
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as as an As an aside, I highly suggest people look up pictures of this guy because I'm not sure if it's what he looked like at baseline or if he was they took all the pictures when he was still just cracked out of his mind.
00:47:09
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But just... Look at his eyes in all of the pictures because he's like. It was cracked out. it's It's so bad. But what a crazy story. But that helped him. You know, you just gave me a survival story.
00:47:24
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oh i did. Oh, I You did. You gave me. as there i was loving that story. Every bit of it. And then I was like, wait, is he going to survive? This is a survival story. he fucking did Rock on. That was awesome.
00:47:39
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So, you know, don't take drugs, kids, because you might end up missing a couple of limbs. Ever. Yeah. Skiing 250 miles.
00:47:51
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um Getting blown up. Getting blown up. up Twice. Pervitin. for For a little boost. For a little boost. Don't drink with caffeine. May cause an upset stomach.
00:48:03
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Yeah. You might experience palpitations. Absolutely. Sweats, lack of hunger, hallucinations. Skiing for miles upon miles, not even knowing that you're skiing. In arctic temperatures. Amen. That was a good story. i like that.
00:48:19
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Good job. That was really good. That was fun. Okay, if you just listened to this and you sent that story in to us, can you tell us who recommended that story? You need credit for that because that was amazing. It was amazing and it was so very, very, very fun to do.
00:48:32
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That was a good one. oh And he lived to be 71. Like, what a life. Did he have any limbs missing? His lower left leg was blown off by the grenade.
00:48:45
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That's amazing. Sorry, the landmine. Yeah, the landmine. Wow. Okay, folks, that is all for today. hot mess of a show.
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