Sam delves into the twisted and horrifying case of Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo, infamously known as the “Ken and Barbie Killers.” Between 1990 and 1992, this outwardly glamorous couple abducted, sexually assaulted, and murdered young girls—including Karla’s own sister—shattering communities and making headlines across Canada.

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Sam’s sources:

 * Killer Queens Podcast – Episode 203: Ken and Barbie Killers: Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo killerqueenspodcast.com [https://www.killerqueenspodcast.com/203-ken-and-barbie-killers-karla-homolka-and-paul-bernardo/?utm_source=chatgpt.com]
 * Ken & Barbie Killers: The Lost Murder Tapes – HBO Max / Hulu The Streamable [https://thestreamable.com/shows/ken-and-barbie-killers-the-lost-murder-tapes-2021?utm_source=chatgpt.com]HBO Max [https://www.hbomax.com/shows/ken-and-barbie-killers-the-lost-murder-tapes/64ee9dc7-4b94-4dac-bae5-d0ed005f0ca1?utm_source=chatgpt.com]

61 - The Ken and Barbie Killers

In this special bonus episode, Jeff and Sam revisit two unforgettable stories from past episodes. Jeff shares the chaotic and unbelievable events of the 1904 St. Louis Olympic Marathon, widely considered the most absurd Olympic race in history. Sam brings back the heartbreaking and powerful story of Jyoti Singh, whose tragic death sparked outrage and led to nationwide protests and legal reform in India.

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Jeff’s Story – The 1904 Olympics:

 * Smithsonian Magazine – The 1904 Olympic Marathon May Have Been the Strangest Ever [https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/1904-st-louis-olympics-marathon-may-have-been-strangest-ever-180952527/]
 * Olympics.com – Chaos and Cheating at the 1904 Marathon [https://olympics.com/en/news/1904-st-louis-marathon-chaos-cheating-and-strychnine]
 * Wikipedia – 1904 Summer Olympics [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1904_Summer_Olympics#Marathon]

Sam’s Story – The Story of Jyoti Singh (also known as Nirbhaya):

 * BBC – India Gang Rape: The Victim’s Story [https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21226068]
 * NPR – The Life and Legacy of Jyoti Singh [https://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2015/03/06/390833597/in-india-a-rape-victims-death-inspired-change-but-many-say-its-not-enough]
 * Wikipedia – 2012 Delhi Gang Rape and Murder [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Delhi_gang_rape_and_murder]
 * Netflix – India’s Daughter Documentary [https://www.netflix.com/title/80032281] (if still available in your region)

From the Archives: The 1904 Olympics and the Story of Jyoti Singh

This week, Jeff and Sam dive into two shocking cases. Sam shares the haunting story of Jennifer Carson, whose father was one-half of the infamous San Francisco Witch Killers, and how she’s come to terms with his terrifying legacy. Jeff covers the 1976 Chowchilla Bus Kidnapping, the largest mass kidnapping in American history, where 26 children and their bus driver were buried alive in a moving van.

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Sam’s sources:

 * Peacock Documentary: I Lived with a Killer, Season 1, Episode 8 – The San Francisco Witch Killers
 * Martinis & Murder Podcast – Episode 17: San Francisco Witch Killers
 * People Magazine – Daughter of Serial Killer Speaks Out [https://people.com/crime/jenn-carson-daughter-serial-killer-speaks-out/]

Jeff’s sources:

 * CNN – Chowchilla Childhood Trauma [https://www.cnn.com/2023/12/02/health/chowchilla-childhood-trauma]
 * City of Chowchilla – 1976 Bus Kidnapping [https://www.cityofchowchilla.org/300/1976-Bus-Kidnapping]
 * Wikipedia – 1976 Chowchilla Kidnapping [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1976_Chowchilla_kidnapping]
 * Los Angeles Times – Photo Essay on the 1976 Chowchilla Bus Kidnapping [https://www.latimes.com/visuals/photography/la-me-fw-archives-the-1976-chowchilla-bus-kidnapping-20190709-htmlstory.html]
 * YouTube – Chowchilla Kidnapping Story [https://youtu.be/daWpvRbTsIw?si=HmUFL_G3WTuSDOGz]

60 – California Witch Killers & The 1976 Chowchilla Bus Kidnapping

This week, Jeff shares the truly horrific and inspiring survival story of Ellen Halbert, a victim of a brutal attack in Austin, Texas, who turned her trauma into a life of advocacy and justice reform. Sam dives into the haunting tale of Elizabeth Báthory, the Hungarian countess often labeled as one of history’s most prolific female serial killers. Her legend involves the torture and murder of hundreds of young women between 1590 and 1610.

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Jeff’s sources:

 * “Joseph’s Hammer” (2015) – IMDb [https://www.imdb.com/title/tt36175308/]
 * The Ellen Halbert Story – Joseph's Hammer [https://www.josephshammer.org/the-ellen-halbert-story]

Sam’s sources:

 * Elizabeth Báthory – Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elizabeth_B%C3%A1thory]
 * Elizabeth Bathory – Britannica [https://www.britannica.com/biography/Elizabeth-Bathory]
 * New Theory on the Blood Countess – CBS News [https://www.cbsnews.com/news/blood-countess-elizabeth-bathory-slovakia-serial-killer-new-theory/]
 * Elizabeth Bathory – Biography.com [https://www.biography.com/crime/elizabeth-bathory]
 * Bathory’s Torturous Escapades – History.com [https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/december-29/bathorys-torturous-escapades-are-exposed]

59 – Ellen Halbert & Elizabeth Báthory

This week, Jeff and Sam revisit the Previous Episode 44 about two incredible survival stories.

Jeff shares the story of Mary Vincent, who miraculously survived a violent attack while hitchhiking in 1978 and went on to become a powerful advocate and artist.

Sam tells the unbelievable tale of Aimo Koivunen, a Finnish soldier in WWII who survived extreme conditions after accidentally overdosing on meth.

Enjoy!

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Jeff's sources:

 * The Untold Story of Roxanne Hayes: A Life Cut Short by the "Mad Chopper" Killer [https://unquestionablycriminal.medium.com/the-untold-story-of-roxanne-hayes-a-life-cut-short-by-the-mad-chopper-killer-de383b7f3a15]
 * Mary Vincent (artist) - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mary_Vincent_(artist)]
 * Lawrence Singleton - Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Singleton]
 * Mary Vincent: A Life of Survival [https://www.openceilingsmagazine.com/features/mary-vincent-a-life-of-survival]

Sam's sources:

 * The Incredible Story of Aimo Koivunen [https://allthatsinteresting.com/aimo-koivunen]
 * Aimo Koivunen: The Finnish Soldier Who Survived WWII Thanks To Accidentally Overdosing On Meth [https://www.hereswhathappened.net/blog/aimo-koivunen]

PE44 - Mary Vincent and Aimo Koivunen

This week, Jeff tells the tragic story of the 1999 murders of JB Beasley and Tracie Hawlett in Ozark, Alabama—an unsolved case for decades that finally led to a conviction in 2023. Sam dives into the deeply disturbing case of Dean Corll, the infamous serial killer known as The Candyman, whose crimes haunted Houston in the early 1970s.

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Jeff’s sources:

 * Coley McCraney Gets Life Without Parole – AL.com [https://www.al.com/news/2023/06/coley-mccraney-gets-life-without-parole-in-long-unsolved-1999-murders-of-alabama-teens.html]
 * Autopsy Reports Breakdown – WDHN [https://www.wdhn.com/news/top-stories/new-information-wdhn-breaks-down-autopsy-reports-in-beasley-hawlett-case/]
 * Murders of J.B. Beasley and Tracie Hawlett – Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_J.B._Beasley_and_Tracie_Hawlett]
 * ABC 20/20 – Forever 17

Sam’s sources:

 * Dean Corll Case Overview – ABC13 [https://abc13.com/post/dean-corll-houston-candyman-serial-killer-1970s-murders-boathouse-killings-new-details-Elmer-Wayne-Henley-david-brooks/16368766/]
 * The Lost Boys – Texas Monthly [https://www.texasmonthly.com/true-crime/the-lost-boys/]
 * Documentary: Texas True Crime – Season 1, Episode 4

58 – JB Beasley & Tracie Hawlett and The Candyman

This week, Sam dives into the haunted history of Printer’s Alley and the story of David Schulman, a beloved figure in Nashville’s vibrant nightlife. Meanwhile, Jeff shares the twisted and bizarre true story of Otto in the Attic—a secret lover hidden above the ceiling, a murder, and a magical vagina. You’ll laugh, gasp, and possibly need to lock your attic door.

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Jeff’s sources:

 * Dolly Oesterreich’s House – I Am Not a Stalker [https://www.iamnotastalker.com/2016/10/03/dolly-oesterreichs-house/]
 * Walburga “Dolly” Oesterreich – Wikipedia [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walburga_Oesterreich]
 * Murderous Lover in a Silver Lake Attic – LAist [https://laist.com/news/la-history/hidden-history-of-la-the-murderous-lover-who-lived-in-a-silver-lake-attic]
 * The Dollop #200 – Otto in the Attic [https://podcasts.apple.com/ee/podcast/200-otto-in-the-attic/id643055307?i=1000374266956]

Sam’s source:

 * Printer’s Alley and the Rainbow Room – Nashville Ghosts [https://nashvilleghosts.com/printers-alley-and-the-rainbow-room/]

57 – Nashville Ghosts and Otto in an Attic

To end Gay pride month 2025, Sam tells the story of Sara Josephine Baker. Baker  was an American physician notable for making contributions to public health, especially in the immigrant communities of New York City. She also happed to be part of the Queer community.  Her fight against the damage that widespread urban poverty and ignorance caused to children, especially newborns, is perhaps her most lasting legacy. In 1917, she noted that babies born in the United States faced a higher mortality rate than soldiers fighting in WW1, drawing a great deal of attention to her cause.  She also is known for (twice) tracking down Mary Malone, better known as Typhoid Mary.

Sources:

https://www.harvardsquarelibrary.org/biographies/sara-josephine-baker/

https://www.curvemag.com/blog/history/sara-josephine-baker-lesbian-scientist-changed-the-face-of-public-health/

https://cfmedicine.nlm.nih.gov/physicians/biography_19.html

https://poklib.org/doctor-sara-josephine-baker-fighting-for-life/#:~:text=In%20her%20later%20years%2C%20she,death%20on%20February%2022%2C%201945.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Sara-Josephine-Baker

Sara Josephine Baker

This week, Sam shares the story of Typhoid Mary, the first person in the United States identified as an asymptomatic carrier of the pathogen associated with typhoid fever. Jeff dives into the chilling case of Danny Rolling, also known as the Gainesville Ripper—a serial killer whose horrifying crimes inspired a massively popular horror film. True crime meets medical mystery in this haunting episode.

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Jeff’s sources:

 * Danny Rolling – Wikipedia [https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Rolling]
 * The Real Killer Who Inspired Scream – Collider [https://collider.com/scream-killer-true-story/]
 * Gainesville Ripper – YouTube [https://youtu.be/nHGT2R70cr8?si=ZKy41GRyF0DYdBKQ]

Sam’s source:

 * Mary Mallon (Typhoid Mary) – PMC [https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3959940/]

56 – Typhoid Mary and the Gainesville Ripper

This week, Jeff shares the story of Harvey Milk. Milk is a Queer icon. Milk was an American politician and the first openly gay man to be elected to public office in California, as a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors. 

Because of his tireless advocacy for all gay people Harvey Milk was assassinated in 1978.

 His story is unique and heroic. He is simply... a hero. 



Sources used: 

https://campus.digication.com/caradevine2/last_words

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harvey_Milk

https://milkfoundation.org/

https://youtu.be/Od05s8cc32A?si=-5bdnMnkFTCviaqV



And for bonus, if you want to see Anita Bryant take a pie to the face here is that video.

https://youtu.be/5tHGmSh7f-0?si=draPKuXPBM_-iSes

Harvey Milk

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