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Anticipatin' AMEC
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Tis the month before AMEC and we are super pumped for our first in-person national conference since 2019! In this episode, we celebrate iconic women in medicine and beyond in honor of Women's History Month, talk about the hottest new shows on the block, and discuss March's health awareness topics. We also consider the current conflict in Eastern Europe and its implications in the United States #WeStandWithUkraine.
Plus, the hosts converse about what they're most excited for at the Annual Medical Education Conference. For a hint at our special surprise, register for AMEC and all will be revealed ;)
To share your thoughts on our discussions or if you have any questions to ask our hosts, email podcast@snma.org for a chance to be featured on the show!
Disclaimer: The opinion and views expressed on our podcast do not reflect the official stance of Student National Medical Association.
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Introduction and SNMA Nominations
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It's time to nominate and acknowledge those members in chapters that have shown excellence in your region. The nomination forms for membership awards and excellence awards are now live and can be found in the SNMA opportunities newsletter with eligibility criteria for each. There are a number of awards available to show some love to those in your region who have been putting in that work. So please send in your nominations by March 13th
00:00:27
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Winners will be announced at our annual medical education conference taking place April 13th through April 17th. Now you already know what time it is. What time it is. Time to get this joke going. Go, go, go, go.
SNMA Presents Lounge & Icebreaker Discussion
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Welcome to SNMA Presents Lounge. Whether you're in a student lounge, doctor's lounge, or lounging around at home, get ready to join SNMA for meaningful conversations on topics affecting minorities in medicine and groups that often sit at the margins of health care. And I am your boy, Student Dr. Altman.
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And to celebrate the changing of seasons from winter to spring this month, our icebreaker is going to be, what season are you? Spring, summer, fall, or winter, and why? I would say for me, I'm going to say summer. You know what I'm saying?
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I'm a hot boy, you know what I mean? Ooh, you come alive in the, ooh, in the summer? You hear me? I'm not vitamin D for the world needs to have, you know? And in terms of just being outside, being lively, having a great energy, like I'm that summer man, you know what I mean? How y'all feeling though? What y'all feeling about the seasons you are?
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Hey, everyone. Once again, I'm, well, not once again, because I'm introducing myself for the first time, but I'm student Dr. Isabella. My season, so I have to, it's very close between fall and spring for me, but I have to say spring because like the winter time for me is like my hibernation season, like I'm locked in, I'm loaded, I'm just trying to get through it. And for the most part too, like that's
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the roughest time for me because it's just there's no vitamin D out. There's no sun. It's cold all the time. And when spring comes about, it's like a renewal. It's like, I remember again, what it's like to be human. Essentially, I remember to
00:02:47
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to enjoy life and it's almost like that goes away during the winter time. So spring is like a renewal season for me. So that's always like my favorite time to like emerge from that cold, like depressive type season of winter and then like seeing the somewhat of warmth and like flowers and color again on earth. It's a very nice time. So yeah, I have to go with spring. Fall was almost there, but I'll, I have to say spring one for me.
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Hey everyone, it's student Dr. Erica Dingle. So I would be fall 100%. I think fall is the season that is the most chill, literally and figuratively, I guess. You know, you get to fall and people are like coming down off the high of the summer, right? Then there might be a day where it's like, oh, I really want to feel that summer air again. And then boom, fall hits you with summer. So I'm giving you summer in the fall.
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And then it might be a day where it's like, y'all really feel like feeling that chill and then boom, you wake up and you get the perfect chill for some chunky clothing and a nice knee high boot and a big scarf and you get to be fashionable. So yeah, I think that that season gives you everything that you're expecting, calms you down, prepares you for the exit of the year.
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And yeah, it's just a chill, very chill season. You look like fall to me, Erica. You are fall. Yeah. Well, seriously, like that is my favorite season. You do. Hands down. Hands down. Yeah.
00:04:26
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Well, that was cute. I love it. Everybody participate. That's listening in. This would be fun. You might could, who knows what kind of connections you can make off of these seasons. Somebody might, another hot drummer, somebody might connect with Aldwin in his hot summer stage. Okay. Hot boy. Where's, where's her girl?
00:04:48
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We looking out for you. We got to look out for the whole crew. You know what I mean? We'll take the heat off of you right now. We'll bring it back to fall. All right. I got you.
Running the List: Women's History Month
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So it's our favorite portion of the show. It's time to run the list.
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For our preclinical students, running the patient list on the wards allows the team to address the most pressing matters of the day. So in this segment of the show, each of us will address together collectively, go back and forth a little bit about it probably, about the most recent events that pertain to our populations and the communities that we will serve one day as physicians. So let's get into it, shall we?
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Yeah. I'm excited because it's Women's History Month. Shine some light on the women. Yeah. And it's black. Well, it was just Black History Month. I was trying to carry that over. We can. As far as we can go, as far as we can take it. It's Black History Month every day. Black in parentheses and then Women's History Month. Right. That's a trendy fact. And there's some notable women, right? You want to talk about them as?
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Oh, no, I mean, yeah, I wasn't sure what we who we wanted to shout out, but I know there's a lot of women that we could talk about, especially in medicine who are breaking barriers. One person we probably want to speak about or two, I guess, because it's like they're both doctors, Dr. Uche Blackstock and Dr. Oni Blackstock.
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our two women in medicine. And it's funny, because I was just reading a little bit about Uche, she had put on a, or she had made an article on essence, just talking about kind of her progression through medicine and like the different seasons she's gone through, quitting medicine or quitting academic medicine at some point, she said, because it just wasn't serving her as well as like, being married for some time. And then she got ended up getting divorced, maybe, I guess, because her
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marriage wasn't serving her anymore as well. But she ended up kind of creating her own company called Advancing Health Equity. And because she was just kind of upset with academic medicine, not really
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addressing all of these issues that we see when it comes to health disparities in medicine and kind of just feeling like she wasn't being appreciated and valued as a black woman in this field. And I think that's just a great way or that I just felt like that was just a great article for her to make because it speaks to so many of the
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hidden, like, battles that we fight as minorities in this field that people sometimes aren't privy to. They just think, oh, like, you're black, you're in medicine, and so you have this job to, like, fill everybody else's cup, but without filling your own cup, essentially. And so I thought that, like, article was amazing. She just kind of talked a little bit more about her life, her personal life, as well as, like, her professional life and kind of how she's evolved through those stages and where it's led her to today.
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Yeah, I read about both of them and they're well accomplished sisters, Harvard, train, and no, they're always at the forefront of any social political issues, which I appreciate and the way they represent themselves. I mean, it's like to the tee, the standard that you expect. And in regards to Women's History Month, I think, again, we got to celebrate our women every day, cherish them, appreciate them.
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especially Black women. We got to protect you guys. It is our duty and in my honest belief that we could do more. And I think in this month, I think for me, myself is educating myself about women accolades and their accomplishments. Right now, I'm reading a book called Mediocre, which discusses how white male legacy and supremacy has inhibited and restricted Black women from their particular success. And one of the women that I recall from the book recently that I read about was
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Shirley Kism, who ran for president in 1972. We talk about the first black person to run for president was Jesse Jackson, but that was in 1984. She ran in 1972 in the midst of being called the n-word, in the midst of being denigrated and condemned in a time period
Ukraine Crisis Discussion
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where no one believed that she could actually accomplish so much. And so I think that we have to reinforce
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how much knowledge and power is there in our history and how many beautiful and terrific women that have transcended upon this plane on this earth and are currently still doing the magic, still doing the work and still being outside. And in regards to medicine, I have a whole plethora of mentors. I can name drop right now that are doing some amazing things.
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I'll let Erica do her thing, but shout out to all the women doing amazing things, especially in medicine. And shout out to you guys too, because you are part of history too, being part of this podcast. The first for SMA, first podcast co-host. Our name is going to go down in history, Erica. You heard that? Wow. When they talk about the first podcast group, they got to talk about us.
00:09:45
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I didn't even think about that. That is true. That's major. One of the women that just always, whenever it comes to being like a first, like a pioneer sticks out to me, Dr. Susan Taylor, she founded the Skin of Color Society. And I mean, when you consider just the disparities
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in, I mean, just in healthcare in general, but especially when it comes to skin of color, like I've still actually last year was the first time I was able to see a black dermatologist in however many years. And you know, they're not
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everywhere. You might be able to find in your local community a Black family medicine physician, but Black dermatologists are few and far between. There's a number of them, even Dr. Diane Davis, so many that are actually either they are in the field and have paved the way for those to come, Dr. Alexis Carrington, up and coming. It's important because
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not for nothing, like you see our skin. That's the first thing you see. And who am I to think sorry that a white person can really truly understand even like if it's down to like something minimal, like hyperpigmentation, like, bruh, these dark spots, this, this means a lot to me. All right. You know what I'm saying? Like there's just certain things that they can, they can really empathize with us on.
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So I just appreciate the black derms, all the black women physicians in any field that is really hard to get into. Dr. Sonia Sloan, who was one of the first, if not the first in Houston, Texas, orthopedic surgeon to graduate. I forget what school now, but there's another like what that's a male dominated field and she's down there nominating. Yeah. So shout out to all the black women physicians and just
00:11:44
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Women in general, it's our month. It is. Yes, it is. Shout out to all you guys. We love y'all and we are looking up to you. So.
00:11:58
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Well, let's, let's, you know, it's time to talk about the elephant in the room. I'm talking about making his way in like, what's up, y'all? I'm about to sit down. Now the elephant until but it came it came about because there's a bigger elephant in the room. There's a bigger elephant in the world right now. And it has to do a poo in poo in
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Listen, you know, I could sit here and pretend like I've really been following everything that man has been doing, but I'm not going to hold you. I have not been for my own sanity. And for the sake of those who have to be present during his
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I don't know if he's going through like a crisis. I don't know if he's going through like, something's going on at home. I don't know what's happening to that man. But he's just nothing he's doing is making sense. So you know, so I'll give it to one of you guys to kind of walk us through what is because I was actually talking about this with my father and my like, brother today. My dad was just saying how like, yeah, like,
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Biden needs to wake up and just start cutting things off to Russia and everything because we can't find ourselves in this mess. And it's not even actually just about us. It's about Ukraine who's going through this, but it's like...
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America too, we could fuel this nonsense that's happening in Russia, because there's a lot of resources that they depend on that America wants to provide. So all I'm saying, Biden, Uncle Biden, we're looking at you.
00:13:30
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We're looking at you right now. Don't mess up. Don't mess because Putin's not making any sense right now. We can't, we can't find ourselves enough predicament, but you know, I'm gonna let you guys kind of walk us through that. Lay out the facts real quick and then talk about the sanctions and all of this other stuff that we want Uncle Joe to kind of reel in.
00:13:51
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So President Putin partly blamed his decision to attack on NATO's eastward expansion. He earlier complained Russia had nowhere further to retreat. So Ukraine has previously shown interest in joining NATO.
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President Putin views the prospect of Ukraine joining the Western Military Alliance as a hostile act. In NATO, or as it's known, the North Atlantic Treaty Organization was created in 1949 by the United States, Canada, and several Western European nations.
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to provide collective security against the Soviet Union. So I think he's just trying to flex like, wait, this sidebar, this is on topic, off topic. There's something going around like on black Twitter, and it's talking about exactly what's going on. But like in black layman's terms, like so
00:14:42
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Putin is the ex-boyfriend of this, this person. And essentially Putin wants back in and the girl, the ex-girlfriend is like living her best life, best life, not going back and forth. So he's trying to pretty much move back in on territory and they not having it. Um, so now you mentioned uncle Biden or uncle Joe.
00:15:08
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He's now proposed these sanctions, which are limitations for Russia in light of the Ukraine invasion. But the big thing about that, so much comes from that area. I saw a list of all of the imports and the things that we actually depend on Ukraine for. Who's running the White House right now is my question. I don't know.
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I hope it's Uncle Joe Biden. I hope it's him because he's the only one right now that's occupying that seat. It's just, if not our sis Kamala, your sorority sister and my alum, she got to come through because we can't let this fall. You know, Ukraine, you know, has been established as an independent state.
00:16:01
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from the former Soviet Union since 1992 and we look at, you know, there are millions of people living in Ukraine currently and I think it really is a travesty. I feel like the way that this man is acting is like borderline psychotic and narcissistic.
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and he's coming up with these random reasonings in terms of invading another country. How does Ukraine joining NATO, how is that even pertaining to you? You're a whole different country, bro. You might as well say you on the other side of the planet, honestly.
00:16:35
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Ukraine's holding things down, as Erica mentioned, the importing of the goods. They also export a lot of goods. There's a lot of oil, there's a lot of resources that are there. And then also even when we talk about the fact of the matter is that I feel like there are conflicting news, conflicting reports coming out of there.
00:16:52
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It is intentionally not allowing people to know how many casualties are happening on the Russian side. And obviously we know that Ukraine is dealing with casualties as well. Actually, the mayor, Khayiv, is a former world heavyweight champion, one of the Klitschko brothers, I'm not sure if you guys know.
00:17:11
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not to I'm not trying to celebrate this but what I'm trying to say is that it's amazing to see how many people are gearing up arms and protecting their country and it's really patriotic to me to envision people out there like you know unfortunately losing their lives but they believe in protecting their family protecting their community and I want to say shout out to Ukraine for holding it down and when you look at the military forces
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you know, Russia has over 2 million soldiers, you know what I'm saying? Ukraine has 900,000 soldiers. And then that in itself is like already, you know, like cumbersome for them. And the odds are that, you know, they're going to have some challenges and they're trying to persevere. But I think also that when we talk about the United States and their involvement, I think we sent
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7,000 soldiers in the surrounding area to assist potentially. But I think that, again, I think diplomacy obviously is the first way to handle this. I think Biden's have done a great job of doing sanctions. They've also froze a lot of their international accounts for Russia so that they can't manifest any of their resources within the country.
00:18:19
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And the sanctions are also affecting things like food and the importing of other goods that the United States sends over there and our interaction with them. So I think from a long term basis, I think it's going to be pretty effective. But I also believe that we have to kind of play it cool, not just jump the gun because
00:18:36
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We also got issues, we know we got issues here in the United States and there's a human rights issue there that we have to target, but there's also human rights issues here as well. But shout out to Ukraine and how they're holding things down. And I really hope that everything goes well. And we don't see any tragic loss of lives anymore. There's already been three children that have already lost. I'm like, we haven't even finished the pandemic yet. Like, can we catch a break? Can we go from one struggle to the next in sequence at least? Like, why are we just, now we're just adding on and heaping on struggles, like, and
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Andi made a great point, you know, even in Ukraine right now, there's African students, apparently, who are just trapped
Racial Disparities in Ukraine Crisis
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there. Like it says the Poland border guards are reportedly rejecting African citizens from leaving Ukraine because of the color of their skin. So now there's black people suffering at the hands of these, I want to say terrorists, if we can just keep it a stack outside of our own country. So it's just really sad to see that, you know, all across this world right now, we're facing
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different obstacles when it comes to this Putin, whatever mess you want to call it. It's really sad to see. I mean, and you know what, in terms of what this means for the US economy, it seems like we also have to be mindful of that. Because they're saying that some of these sanctions could exacerbate inflation on energy, as well as groceries, gas prices, and Biden's, you know, stated, and I'll quote, I know this is hard and that Americans are already hurting, I will do everything my power to limit the pain the American people are feeling at the gas pump.
00:20:05
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This is critical to me, but this aggression cannot go unanswered. If it did, the consequences for America would be much worse. And you know what? I agree with the guy. I think he's making sense with that. It's gonna be a balancing act, but I do think that
00:20:19
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it's inevitable that something, we may get hurt in this process. We just may, it may affect how much money we're pulling out of our, you know, it really might affect us, but that whole war nonsense that's going on, as long as it doesn't find its way to this side of the world, we gotta do what's necessary. That's where I stand, because we can't handle war, not hearing. I think we cannot handle that.
00:20:45
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The only draft I want to be in is the NBA draft. No, it's okay. We don't want you drafted either. Our economy like...
00:20:53
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We can't take another hit and you won't see the effects of this until months later. Even if you look at, I was having a conversation with somebody last week just talking about the pandemic and how the Spanish flu, you didn't see the effects on the economy of the Spanish flu until years later. So we're not even seeing
00:21:16
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To your point, Isabella, we're going through so much. We're not seeing the collateral yet at all. Granted, on Thursday, when all this popped off, gas prices went up $0.10 within an hour. I think it was around 9 AM, and then it was supposed to exceed or go up $0.25 by the end of the day. Again, the beginning stages of this. We haven't seen
00:21:44
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In my opinion, we haven't seen the effects of any of this truly yet. Sadly. Sadly. I agree. That's the scariest part, trying to anticipate or predict what the future holds. I know America is doing its best from a political and diplomatic aspect, but for us here in America, there's still so much gray area with the pandemic.
00:22:10
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And the social political structures that are going on. And I feel like we, you know, we got to enhance the experience of the constituency or two, you know, a lot of single mothers are struggling with inflation to take care of their children.
00:22:25
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There's a lot of businesses that are struggling to hire people, I mean employment rates, you know, having have improved but also there's certain, you know, infrastructure and industries that are getting killed right now. We see what's going on in Canada with a lot of the trucker truckers not, you know, being able to, you know, they're going on strike and that
00:22:44
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like a lot of the car imports and things of that nature. So it's just a lot of going on in the world. And like Erica, like you mentioned is like these little nuances that we think we could avoid in talking about or not. It's building up. It's building up to like everybody. Yeah, man. Because it's going to affect you one way or another. Yeah.
00:23:03
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Then Isabel, I know you touched on it briefly, the African students that are over there. I think it's wild because Alden said, we have our human rights issues here and we're all standing with Ukraine. However, it's wild that they want to go back home and because they're not a Ukrainian citizen, they're getting pushed back. Is that really why they're getting pushed back because they're not a citizen?
00:23:31
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Yeah, we know the truth. You know, the truth, right? We saw in China, when they were beating on Africans. I mean, this is not. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And, you know, actually, this is a great way to segue into
00:23:45
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just more ways when you can just sit there, be black, literally live your life, and somehow, just issues can just come at you, just for existing, right? There was something that recently happened with Dr. Jeffrey Lieberman, the chair, or I guess we could say former chair, former chair of Columbia Psych Department, who was suspended after referring to a model as a freak of nature on Twitter.
Racism in Academia: Dr. Lieberman
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See, this is what I talk about when I say sometimes everything that happens in your head doesn't have to be said out loud. Sometimes they can say it in your head, right? Like, no, you know, like privilege, privilege, yo, it makes them cross the streets without looking. It makes them say whatever comes to their mind without thinking, could this have any further implications on me? Like, later down the line, they just literally
00:24:36
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Yeah. It's ridiculous. I see it all the time on clerkship. Like even right now as I'm going through my hospital rotations, it's like the amount of times it's just white male doctors just giving their unauthorized, unasked for opinion on a random day. Like you just kind of question.
00:24:52
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I'm waiting for somebody to... This happened to me recently too. It was a physician that I had to check. I had to talk to my attending about that because I'm like, yo, she saying these extra words and she's a white woman and you already know how the hierarchy goes and all of that. And I feel like oftentimes in medicine, in this situation, I'm glad that he got checked and someone
00:25:14
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like help facilitate what the outcome was going to be. Because oftentimes people do these things and we just turn our head because people are afraid. They're afraid of the consequences of that. And Jeffrey, I'm going to call you Jeffrey, because you're not a doctor to me no more. Like, are you really? Stop.
00:25:31
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Relax. Now, for real, because it's really a friend of me, you know what I'm saying? Like reading about this beautiful black woman who we cherish and celebrate. And now again, we see like a white male infrastructure, you know, trying to institute itself and antagonize a woman. That's minding her business, right? Yeah. I feel the tweet. I went on her page and she does call herself the queen of the dark, but by no means has she stated that she is the darkest woman in the world. Darkest woman, yeah. So they adding extra layers to like, then he's like trying to prove himself and all of this. And then
00:26:01
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He stayed like a half-aid apology, you know what I'm saying? You know what you did was wrong, and it's not enough to apologize. You got to go above and beyond. And if you want to represent an institution like Columbia, you know, especially Columbia is in Harlem that's over 60% black.
00:26:17
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You know what I mean? We're crazy about the money in a psychiatry department in an area in Harlem that's over 60% Black, saying this about Black people. At the end of the day, I'm glad that they've suspended them. But I think what they need to do is reinforce the fact that racism can be combative if you put the right people in the right positions. So I would suggest or implore them to hire a woman of color. You know what I'm saying? Like that would be a real move. This suspension,
00:26:43
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Like, no, put someone in color and show what you mean. Let's change that a little bit. Put a black woman. How about that, right? Let's call a spade a spade. Because I'm tired of tiptoeing around the elephant in the room. We want a black person there. Scrap the color, black.
00:27:05
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We're the ones who aren't there in these spaces. Let's just call a spade a spade. Because these days, we've started saying of color, and we keep tiptoeing around with the real thing, what we're trying to say. We're trying to say there's no black people in these spaces. That's essentially what we're saying. So if no one else wants to say it, I'm going to say it. Just do that.
00:27:27
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And a little bit of backstory for our listeners as well. The woman, the model, her name was Gatwick. I think that's her last name though. I'm not 100% sure what her first name is, but she essentially is like a model, broke the Guinness World Record, apparently for having the darkest skin, even though to your point Aldwyn.
00:27:44
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She never claimed that she had the darkest skin. Right. I don't even know how much how much truth there is to that, to be honest with you, because at Howard, we had a very beautiful dark skin model woman who was also a student. And I feel like she might be darker than her. So I actually don't really know the validity of that record. But you know what, like, it is what it is. Okay. Melanocytes to know the highest level. I think she clarified that it was an effect untrue. But it's just even wild that it would make its way around to your point.
00:28:14
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Right, right. So, but yeah, so that's kind of a little bit of backs around her. But you know, like you said, gave this like, very, like, I feel like ungenuine in genuine apology to the black community and tall women, but he was suspended. And like we said, we want a black woman to take his place. So let's start getting a move on that.
00:28:36
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Yeah, so there's the story on Dr. Wolf, Jeffrey Lieberman, and we have more craziness happening. I was like, let me follow what I was going to say.
Societal Deception: 'Tinder Swindler' & 'Inventing Anna'
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Let me take out the doctor real quick.
00:29:01
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Yes, but now we have craziness happening in real life. We have craziness happening on these apps. We have craziness being documented through Netflix. Now, I haven't watched the show, but Erika, you have. It's called Tinder Swindler. I've actually had most of you tell me I need to watch the show, but I haven't seen it, so I need the backstory. I need the tea, please. Essentially, well, let me, all right, let me see. So, okay.
00:29:27
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What we're going to say first is this is about a man who poses as a billionaire, scams women out of money to rope other women into his billionaire ploy, essentially a Ponzi scheme for himself. And this is very true. So this man.
00:29:42
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ends up dating over like a period of years. They showed I think it was three or four. Actually, he was dating two of them. And one of them was like his homegirl, essentially. And when I tell you he had these women running him Amex cards on that, like, here's here's my Amex card for you to use. Here's this amount of money. He was flying them to Greece, flying them all to other parts of Europe.
00:30:07
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And his excuse, which is what I'm using when Sallie Mae and whoever else come after me, is my enemies are after me, I cannot pay for my... No! No, literally everything was my enemies. I can't see you because my enemies are after me. He would send them on WhatsApp and then, yo, the final chick, yo, the final chick got him.
00:30:32
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I don't want to ruin it for everybody, but she got somewhat retribution. Yeah, I'm about to watch this. When I tell you, it'll have you sitting there like, mouth agape. And then I didn't even really feel bad for these shows. See, now we're about to segue into a little dating segment, I guess, for a second. You're asking me for money? Nah.
00:30:55
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Yeah. What's wrong with that? What do you mean? What do you mean? Hold on. We won't. It's not like a $20 for some gas or, you know, for a meal. We won't. Wait, hold on, Erica. Even if it was $20 for some gas. Honestly, it's a red flag. It's a red flag. Everything. Why is that a red flag? He's holding you down. Why? He can't quit. What you mean? He's holding me down. What do we... They would just get into notice, man, or win.
00:31:21
Speaker
Wow, I thought we learned our lesson from the Valentine's Day episode, Aldwin. I thought we learned our lesson. Are we going to go back there? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
00:31:37
Speaker
They were just starting to date this man. Their first date was like a private jet to somewhere. And they flicking it up. And oh, he's like, oh, he's love bombing them. And I love you. And you're going to be the mother of my children. And apparently, he had a whole child with this other woman. It was wild. I 100% for the comedic relief,
00:32:06
Speaker
watch it like if not for anything else watch it to laugh you will laugh in my opinion more so oh yeah it's already on my list girl it's added to my it's next it's next in line i'm still watching emily in paris though but
00:32:20
Speaker
It's next to mine, it's next to mine for me. Okay. TV's popping right now. Then we have the inventing Anna, which is similar. She's out here scamming everybody as well. I started watching it, have not finished it. But I'm amazed at how, you know, people really can just kind of move through society, get money, and nobody really questioned anything. Did any of y'all watch it?
00:32:49
Speaker
Okay. I haven't watched it, but you know, usually the first, you know, the first step to doing that is not being black. I'll tell you that, that makes it very easy. That makes it very easy. Yep. I mean, look at the shows. That's right. Look at the shows. Look at the shows we're watching on Netflix. You, you think in any, in any real life society, if a black man tried that, he would have made it through the first episode. It would have been wild with a question mark.
00:33:12
Speaker
Why? He would have been caught. No way. Why? No, but to your point, being white. One of the characters was like, she looked basic and that's how you knew she had money. I'm just like, I want to actually study this. There's some psychology and sociology behind
00:33:33
Speaker
like getting into the upper echelon of it. Well, it's New York, right? But the New York high life and it's wild. Yeah. Yeah. So that y'all have to watch that too.
00:33:50
Speaker
Okay. But yeah, so Inventing Anna, I am definitely gonna watch that because Shonda Rhimes made it and I trust anything that she does. And like, she's just she's like, what what would you call the Betty White of
00:34:06
Speaker
Dramatic television from scandal to grays which like at these shows that ran for so long So I'm definitely gonna watch inventing Anna But yeah, like I said in terms of anything involving the mess that we're talking about You just don't need to be black like once you're not black You can you can get away with half half the stuff and no one's gonna come looking at you twice So I think it's possible when you don't have this skin color for sure. I'm not surprised but
00:34:32
Speaker
We need to talk about another great show. I actually found out about it from the Super Bowl because they had a commercial.
'Bel-Air' Remake Discussion
00:34:40
Speaker
It's the remake of Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. So some people, I've heard a lot of different dissenting opinions about Bel-Air than the remake of it. So I think if you're like super gung-ho on Fresh Prince just remaining a comedy and you don't want to see it in any way, any like other shape or form,
00:35:01
Speaker
This may not be what you want, but I think, Alden, you're agreeing with that statement, but I think if you just open up your mind just a little bit more, you'll be surprised at how good it is. As a drama, I feel like it captures, if there was no comedy in Fresh Prince, I feel like the heart of what the show is supposed to be, which is literally, he is leaving West Philadelphia because his mom is telling him you need to get out from the streets, and he's going to this upscale Bel Air.
00:35:31
Speaker
Like if they capitalized on that, the backstory of that, it would make for actually really great television. And that's what they did in Bel Air. They basically capitalized on what even brought this boy to Bel Air in the first place. What is he like, what is he running from? What was, what happened back in West Philly, right? And they really kind of hone in on that and they focus on all the drama that comes with it. All of, I would say common pitfalls that black men who grew up in, you know,
00:35:59
Speaker
quote unquote the hood or the ghetto whatever you want to call it i mean i don't really like using those terms but whatever you want to call it. All of these struggles and obstacles they have to face and what happens when they're removed from that environment how do they then thrive how do they then make like make another life for themselves essentially and i think it's great like i'm completely in love with the show.
00:36:18
Speaker
And I think it really touches it like touches so many concepts that we tend to ignore when it comes to the struggle of so many black men in the society, especially in American society. So I think the show is absolutely fantastic. And I was a little bit concerned because like, yeah, like this is a remake, I don't know if they're gonna like ruin
00:36:35
Speaker
like Fresh Prince, it kind of like what it was. But the whole point is that it's actually not really supposed to be like a mimic. Yeah, it's supposed to be like a mimic of the show. It's supposed to be like its own thing with kind of like the same backstory, but like its own thing. It's not meant to be like another comedy. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And they did a great job with the casting.
00:36:54
Speaker
almost all the cast is dark skin. I can't be nothing but happy for that. It's great. Dark skin, which we don't see in regular, we don't see that a lot. Let's not forget when they tried in Fresh Prince to change Aunty Viv from being dark skinned to light skinned, I was always going, Pete, what did they think they were doing? That's what I was going to find out? I remember being like, who's that?
00:37:19
Speaker
Exactly. So ridiculous. So I think I would recommend, you know, if you want to get a lot out of the show, just forget about Fresh Prince, like for the first episode, forget about
00:37:30
Speaker
you know, the whole point of the comedy and what it was and just look at this like it's its own show and you're actually gonna really like it. I've been hearing mixed reviews but the one I mean I think when I think of the generation that Fresh Prince landed on everybody so far is either why did they do this because they wanted it to stay the same or they really embrace it like somebody does a recap after every episode and he's almost in his 40s so you know it's like okay if you to your point if you
00:37:59
Speaker
Kind of step away from what it used to be then you can kind of latch on to what it is now and appreciate it for what it is shoutout to Will Smith for doing that because This is his project. I think it's dope to develop the characters further out make Carlton this evil character that we all knew we had it in him, but oh a little book of sugar his way
00:38:30
Speaker
It would come out of him. That's why I've been hearing this, but I'm excited to see it. I was saying. I was saying. Yeah, she talked to Will Smith being the executive producer on that, and I think a lot of the
00:38:42
Speaker
A lot of the thoughts and ideations regarding the show come from Will Smith's actual background. And I had the opportunity to read his book and it's interesting to follow along with the book and then seeing the actual character and his development, you know, and Will's rise to frame, right? Like Will
00:39:00
Speaker
essentially was a rapper, right? And he wanted to use the first rapper to win the Grammy and all this kind of stuff, ends up going out to Cali meeting, you know, Quincy Adams and then Quincy Jones, excuse me, and then ends up getting on the show. Like he had him do the script right in person in front of hundreds of people at his house.
00:39:16
Speaker
and he ends up getting casted for the Fresh Prince. So it's just interesting to see how Will Smith has kind of like turned this around from a comedy to the realities of a black male struggle in America and how a lot of the issues are relayed now today for us and how we have to kind of get engaged in that and enhance our own personal experiences so that we rise above the occasion, above the challenges that we face. So I really love that and the transformative nature of it. So shout out to Will.
00:39:44
Speaker
Yeah, well, he needs to stick with that executive producer thing he's doing. He's doing a great job. Don't move from that, please. Stay right there. You don't have to act like forever, right? We can evolve, we could change roles. I think he's doing a good job with this EP role and he should stay there.
00:40:04
Speaker
he's doing a good job. I think he should still act and he should still be on the earth. See, oh, you were supposed to leave it at that. You're supposed to... That was a loaded scene. Right, right. We need to let people talk before that, you know, that... No, because it's that... Wolfswitz was going through a period where he was acting in movies that were just bombing. Like, they just weren't apparently good. Like, remember that movie he was in with Jaden after Earth or something like that? After Earth, I love that movie. I don't care what the life is.
00:40:33
Speaker
I love that movie because for me it resonated with me because it's father and son and I was like okay it reminded me of me and my father and like how much art he would go for me and I would go for him so I mean everyone got their own particular experiences but after Earth I Am Legend was one of my favorites you know like he got so many like we can name no the things that Will Smith was a great actor for a long time but I'm saying that I think he should lock in
00:41:05
Speaker
See, I didn't say that guys. Recently for playing in the movie with Serena Williams. So we need him to still act. He's still killing the game. I didn't watch the movie but.
00:41:20
Speaker
Oh, okay. I'll be quiet, but I'll stand on. I'll stand on. We love you as an EP. We love you as an EP, Will. The views of the podcast members do not represent the views of all. Will Smith, I did not tell you not to act.
00:41:47
Speaker
that's a fact that's a friendly will Smith go get your bags sir see i feel bad for trying to try to be open and honest i i thought you guys would agree with you that he could just be honest
00:42:01
Speaker
We need that. But in regards to, you know, we talked about Will Smith and his celebrity status, his grandiose status, but another celebrity has something to say recently.
Music Industry Losses & Generational Impact
00:42:15
Speaker
Ricky Rosé, you know what I'm saying? He out here, he said something that was a little controversial to me.
00:42:22
Speaker
But Ritten Ross basically said that losing Nipsey and Dolph for this generation, I'm sure, was just as equivalent or greater to what B.I.G. or Pac was for my generation. And he also mentions, and a lot of these people always have to, oh yeah, they try to sign, he try to sign Nipsey and all that. It's like, yo, land dead. We don't have to take it that far. It's okay to just let them be themselves.
00:42:47
Speaker
It's okay. Why are we always shot? Black people, sit up, sit up. Let's stop it. Stop trying to take things far. Like we can respect each individual for who they are. We don't have to make these comparisons. Stop it with these like Twitter. What's these pictures they make where they put some below on someone who's passed on and try to put side by side. Can we stop the madness?
00:43:14
Speaker
Yes. Oh my gosh. Because literally, like you had two moguls and this is not taking away from either young Dolph or Nipsey's death. However, at that stage of the time where hip-hop was really progressing, right? Like you got to think the evolution of hip-hop has already taken place. And this is not to say that either artist that has recently passed is any
00:43:44
Speaker
less significant, but like Biggie and Tupac progressed hip hop. And you know what I'm saying? Like they literally pushed it forward. So to say that to other individuals who had, I don't want to say they didn't have much to do with because that's, that's not, that's not true, but these were pioneers.
00:44:08
Speaker
The world stood still in many cities on the day that Biggie and Pac passed. Like, come on.
00:44:20
Speaker
They were holding two coasts, like literally Biggie held East Coast and Pac held West Coast in his hand. Like, what are we saying? Like, he must got some new chicken dropping or something. And that's why he's trying to push his voice. Yeah, he does have an album. Yeah, yeah. He actually does have some dropping. So I thought it was going to be controversial. I thought it was going to be chicken thighs, like another flavor. That was a big statement to make. When you sent the article for us to read, I was like, wait, what?
00:44:51
Speaker
But I think like we got to respect greatness worth that. And again, the comparison is so easy for us to compare one individual to another. But I think that we got to celebrate what each individual has brought to the game of hip-hop, what's really brought to our culture, to our communities. And I will say from a musical perspective, you know, Biggie and Pac, you know, very transcendent. I mean, untouchable in many regards.
00:45:15
Speaker
But on the other hand, Nip and Young Dolph, community-wise, their community awareness and their willingness to be engaged with those who are less fortunate, I think that they've set a legacy that's very different than being adopted. So with that being said, I think like oftentimes,
00:45:33
Speaker
We look at these rappers as gods and we have this overarching thought about them, but I think we also gotta celebrate their humanness, you know what I'm saying? Not just about their music, but not just about their community stuff, but also about the human beings that they were in cherishing their life and the challenges that they've had and how they persisted. And we just, I feel like we just neglect all of that. You know, it's so easy for us to create animosity and create all of this tension, this guy's better than that, he rapping.
00:45:59
Speaker
Yo, just celebrate who they are. Naturally, they dead. Their legacy will live on forever. And let's look at that more so than seeing who's better when who's on top of the individual. So shout out to all of them. You know what I mean?
Health Awareness: Colorectal Cancer & Endometriosis
00:46:11
Speaker
In addition to this Women's Health Month, Lord, I said Women's Health, Women's History Month, we have National Colorectal Cancer Month. And I think
00:46:25
Speaker
You know, we just talked about how these men, for example, Nipsey and Young Dolph, they lived out their legacies through community involvement. And I think it's important that black men really step in on this front because we see the disparities in the black community, right? We had Chadwick Boseman who passed away. Has it been two years yet?
00:46:52
Speaker
Or are we kind of coming up on two years where he passed? I think we're almost coming up on two years. Or we may have passed it. Yeah. Because I think it was sometime around January, right? Wasn't like January, February that he passed off? I don't remember. Exactly. But talk about the disparities with regards to colon cancer in Black populations. And especially, we know Black men, they don't always go to the doctor and get their checkups. But it would be wonderful to see
00:47:21
Speaker
I don't know. Like you said, when we got these rappers, we kind of look at them as God sometimes. What if somebody did an actual health initiative, like pushed it for real and got out there, right? Who knows?
00:47:36
Speaker
That's the crazy thing about it. We have all of these individuals who have enough resourcefulness, enough money, enough time to create an initiative where we change disparities in our community, especially like you mentioned, black men being afraid to go see a doctor, or when they're having symptoms that are very
00:47:55
Speaker
unusual, they ignore it or turn their head or whether it's mental health, depression, whether it's, you know, like hemorrhagic issues, whatever the case may be. I think that oftentimes we're like, oh, I got it. I'm gonna be all right. And then you come to find out, unfortunately, that you have cancer. And then we look at the statistics with, you know, colorectal cancers. African-Americans are the highest of any racial ethnic group in the US to be affected by colon cancer.
00:48:20
Speaker
and we are 20% more likely to get colon cancer and 40% more likely to die from it than other groups. And this is also involved with breast cancer, the same thing, the same issue. And so being able to have- And I think it's all- Yeah, yeah, Izzy. So sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off. I was just gonna just quickly add in that I think it's all because of like detection, you know, like detection. And I think one detection being later because people don't care to like reach out
00:48:48
Speaker
to, you know, black communities and say, hey, you're at risk for this, it's probably important that you get it. I just think they like to keep these disparities in place and just then be able to say on a you world's question, oh, a risk factor for getting colorectal cancer is being black. But we've done nothing to mitigate why that is. Because I don't think it's inherently just being black is what gets you to
00:49:13
Speaker
yet colon cancer, I think we stop at where we see the disparity and we then make it into a statistic and we leave it alone. So I think it's all about just like late detection and not trying to promote screening in these communities. That's what I believe is the root cause. But you can go ahead Alden, I just had to throw that in there.
00:49:32
Speaker
No, I mean, I definitely agree. Also, I think another thing that is interesting when we look at our communities for Black men, when you talk about colorectal cancer screening, prostate cancer screening, for a lot of men that I know, they are not interested in doing that because it involves having to go in the dairy air, anything that's taken away from their masculinity. I think that's something that we want to target as well, is that your health is more important than any ideation that is always emasculating or it makes me feel pregnant to have a scope
00:50:02
Speaker
inside of me to check if I have something going on, you know? And so, yeah, it's just, it's just a tragedy. And I think it's, it really is a representation of the culture of medicine, right? Like Isabelle, like you said, we, we talk about it, but we never really about it. We don't put policy in place. We don't educate our constituents. Like when, when we're in school, like, why are they teaching us about Christopher Columbus? But then you're not teaching us about health maintenance, right? The importance of going to the doctor, the importance of having good mental health.
00:50:30
Speaker
the importance of facilitating social support and connections with each other so that we can prevent Alzheimer's. Why is all that information missing? We know why. But the reality is that this, for me, in my opinion, is a ploy for them to really target us and put us at a disadvantaged state. We know criminalization. We know from a health perspective, we're behind. From a social political aspect, we're behind. We're behind in so many different domains, and this is just one part that we've got to continue to advocate for.
00:50:59
Speaker
Well, yeah, I completely agree. And you know, gotta then also go into national endometriosis awareness month. I mean, this one I feel like is a lot more personal, especially when it comes to black women, because I've heard so many stories of people have black women having fertility issues because of their endometriosis, which sometimes they didn't even it goes undetected so many times, like,
00:51:24
Speaker
black woman talking about I've had painful periods for almost like my whole life and was told or dismissed whenever I went to the doctor or maybe shared with family members and they just said, Oh, that's just like a part of Yeah, like it's just normal and then never getting it checked out. And then years go down the road. You're interested in starting a family, you're having issues with that, you go to see your OB and all of a sudden this diagnosis of endometriosis comes up and it's like, well, why didn't I know about this the whole time? Once again, I think detection,
00:51:50
Speaker
screening still these things that were missing when it comes to the Black community. And that's what results in these things. I know one particular celebrity that I know who had her own personal story about it was Tia Mowry, you know, the twin and actress. And she talked about how, you know, before she got pregnant, she had so much difficulty with it because she had endometriosis. So she had to like, I think get surgery for those for her issues with it twice with her OBGYN. And
00:52:20
Speaker
All the experiences that came with that and just her trying to get pregnant maintain a pregnancy all of that and she spoke about that I think one time on her Instagram like she made like an Instagram like TV type video and like publish it but that like really to me was like really inspiring to hear because most of the time people don't even talk about their struggles with fertility when it comes to like endometriosis and like I said goes undetected and
00:52:41
Speaker
no one, you know, knows about it and then they struggle with it in silence. So just some, you know, little statistics for our viewers, but endometriosis affects about 200 million women worldwide and about one out of every 10 women in the US. So it's not something that's like, not common, for the most part. And it's basically just associated with having this very severe life impacting pain during periods, sex, bowel movements, urination, chronic pelvic pain, like the list goes on and on. So it really is
00:53:12
Speaker
can be a debilitating disease to deal with. And so I think we need to kind of get to the point of how do we create more outreach for women who are dealing with this as well as trying to provide treatment options so that people can still live out other aspects of their life that they desire, such as having a family, not having to deal with these really, really like
00:53:32
Speaker
severe periods that affects being able to go to work or maybe sleep at night. I mean, this is something that only women can deal with. And sometimes because it is a male, a patriarchy, we're kind of pushed to the side when it comes to issues like this. So I do think it's important to note
00:53:48
Speaker
about endometriosis awareness month. And so, a little tips on how to mitigate it, changing your diet, as apparently added hormones to certain foods could be linked to what they've seen, as well as with hormone imbalances in patients. They've also seen having endometriosis, engaging in hormonal therapies, another option, as well as considering surgical procedures, so laparoscopic excision to remove the growth. So that's basically where they would just take, like, laparoscopy is a little bit less invasive than, say, open surgery, so they could just use, go through, like, a small incision.
00:54:18
Speaker
insert a camera there and be able to pull out the growths from the endometriosis. So that's another option as well. And so say these are things that we're telling people as we are doing on this podcast, right? This is like a platform of us actually spreading awareness for those who are listening. So we hope that
00:54:33
Speaker
anyone here who may maybe, you know, know somebody or even is dealing with endometriosis, we hope that you guys are able to get the treatment that you need in order to be able to deal with it on your everyday life. But yeah, that's, that's my spiel on endometriosis. Also, if you're a woman,
00:54:49
Speaker
And you have painful periods. It's not normal. Like, that is not something I don't know. I don't know if it's because black people where we think we're supposed to just, Oh, I can deal with this pain. And you know, we get ingrained, right? It's ingrained in us from when we're younger, in some cases, like, Oh, you know, we get the time of the month comes just pop some pills. And then like,
00:55:13
Speaker
13, 14 years later, you're sitting there in debilitating pain and the ibuprofen just doesn't work anymore for you. And you know, then you're in your career and you don't have the time to take off to go to the doctor like you would have when you were younger. But yeah, your health comes first. It's not normal. It is absolutely not normal.
00:55:35
Speaker
A friend of mine who has endometriosis, she told me, she was like, you know, for years, I thought it was normal to have, you know, pain because why not? Like, we're taught from young, it's going to be a painful process those seven days in a month or whatever have you. But come to find out. It's not. Yeah. Although I'm not a woman, I would say like it's really important to break the stigma and the cycle of
00:56:04
Speaker
us you know I think it's important for us to like create the awareness and educate ourselves especially on the men's side and supportive women going through dysmenorrhea going through endometriosis and the various you know reproductive system issues that may occur. I think that we don't communicate that in our community communities at all like when we're growing up even for men you know like issues that we may face
00:56:29
Speaker
It's something that, like Erika said, you just keep to yourself and then you just deal with it. But I think it's okay to build these conversations or build rooms where we can talk about it and discuss it without it being taboo and accept and admire each other in our transparency. I know it's a little bit hard to do, but at the end of the day, that is how we're going to face the statistic and change the disparities.
Excitement for SNMA Annual Conference
00:56:55
Speaker
I think that's it, right? For running the list. We hope you guys enjoyed everything that we talked about. Of course, once again, if you want to say anything or have any comments about what we've spoken about on our run the list, you can reach us at podcast at sna.org and yeah.
00:57:11
Speaker
All right. AMEC. AMEC. As y'all may know, SNMA's annual medical education conference is about a month away. If y'all haven't got your tickets yet, now is the best time. And I'm telling you guys now is the best time because I think those prices raised up like March 15th.
00:57:27
Speaker
You know, it's about that time. The conference will feature many dope panels and sessions for pre-med students, medical students, and graduating students. Plus, the lounge will be hosting two of our very own live events with a special surprise.
00:57:42
Speaker
So I'm really excited for AMEC. I know that I'm definitely looking forward to our events, as well as I think I was looking through other like things on the list. There was like some topics about
00:57:58
Speaker
Oh, step, like step preparation. I know I'm looking forward to that because that is something that's, you know, going to be appearing in my future very soon. I wish it wasn't, but it is. So I'm definitely going to go to that. And I'm very excited for the BOD banquet. That should be super fun. We are going to be in formal attire, guys. I'm going to see you guys looking real spiffy, looking real put together. Yeah, but what about you guys? What are you guys excited for for AMEC?
00:58:23
Speaker
For me, I'm looking forward to, yeah, I know that I'm also chair for the osteopathic committee. So we got a couple of events. We have an osteopathic breakfast that we'll be having on Saturday in the morning. And we have the president and CEO of the American Osteopathic Association giving his speech and encouraging the osteopathic students to be great. We have a DO speed dating event where we're going to have different specialties pull up and pre-meds and med students can get opportunities. So why can't that speed dating be like a real speed dating?
00:58:54
Speaker
You see, that's why it doesn't have to be professional. They should know that as Black Muslims, we're not just out here just dating. They should have had something in place. That's a y'all problem that I'm talking about. Are you trying to say that you're already committed?
00:59:17
Speaker
I'm trying to say like we, we doing something professional and there's going to be a lot of events. There's going to be a lot of events. No worries. Don't worry. You'll get your speed dating thing going on. There'll be a lot of activity outside of right.
00:59:34
Speaker
And there's a lot of parties and all that so Yeah, it'll be lit. But yeah, those are my two and then they got a financial planning event for doctors as well Meditation so cool. Yeah, so tossing the baton to Erica. What's your interest? There's so many sessions. I don't know how I'm going to
01:00:01
Speaker
I need to call on myself. But there's a theme I've noticed with like, social media and medicine, like there's one session called the Med Influencer Revolution. There was another one about just social media, like building your brand,
01:00:22
Speaker
Um, so I'm, I'm interested to see it will likely have a big turnout. Cause if y'all haven't noticed like Tik TOK and medical people have blown up.
01:00:34
Speaker
TikTok, Instagram, and I think these people get paid for these ads at some point when you reach certain status, if you will. So I am interested. I'm not a TikToker and I don't see myself dancing and stuff like that, but I feel like
01:00:57
Speaker
I was talking with a friend the other day. So apparently, TikTok in China, or Instagram in China, like their algorithm is different. Like they have videos that
01:01:10
Speaker
get promoted when they're more educational, more life enhancing. And then in the US, our videos are like the dance dance revolution, the challenges, and that's what gets promoted. So I'm wondering, maybe one day the algorithm will change. And not to say that the people who do the dancing on the videos, but you know, like if you're actually providing information, how that can actually translate for you into success,
01:01:35
Speaker
not just the theatrics of, oh, I'm in medicine. You know how they do on the, y'all can't see me that elicited, but they see what I'm- We love all the theatrics. We're too theatrical over here in the US. So I'm looking forward to those mainly, but also there was another workshop, something about like from attending to whatever,
01:02:05
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just about your career in medicine, not necessarily just remaining clinical.
01:02:11
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Just finding other ways, Chronicles of a Black Doctor finding your flow. I think that's going to be a good one. Whoever put this list together, shout outs to y'all, that group, that team. These are some really tight workshops. So I hope people are actually registering and will attend. And I'm excited about meeting you guys in person for the first time.
01:02:37
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I know that was so crazy. And that's a great way to segue into like how we feel about being a Mac being in person. Because I think that's going to be dope. Like even with a Mac last year, being like virtual, we still had a great time on our live session to all those who remember and who tuned in, we were having a great time, we got great feedback about that. And so I think it's gonna be amazing to be able to implement that in a live format.
01:03:01
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and actually get to interact in real time, get people's energy and feedback on how everything was. So I think that's going to be great. COVID concerns, there's always COVID concerns, I think.
01:03:17
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And I'm not going to say anything. COVID can't hold me down, right? COVID can't hold me down. But for AMEC, I can't, I can't speak for her, right? It could, maybe you can hold her down. Maybe you couldn't. So I'm hoping it doesn't because we've, the tickets have already been paid for, the flights have been bought, the hotels have been booked.
01:03:45
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Yeah, we're having it. This is from the high levels we have in it, no matter what. Whether people come and access the number, it's going to be happening.
01:03:57
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Okay. You've heard it from the osteopathic chair himself is verified. AMEC is here to stay and COVID, she can come if she wants, but we're still going to be having a good time. So there we go. But for those who haven't made it to a live AMEC yet, me included, I don't know. I'm sure Alden you've been to a live AMEC, but what are you most excited for with the transitioning back to being in person?
01:04:22
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I mean, I haven't made it to a live AMX, so if Alden, if you wanted to, and I don't, Erica, you haven't gone to a live one either, right? So Alden, you're the best one to talk about how you feel about it going back to being in person.
01:04:34
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I mean, I'm excited because it's one of my favorite things is just seeing people you haven't seen in years, you know, like you just pull up and you see them like, yo, bro, yo, sis, what's good? And just like that camaraderie, getting networks up, getting like your connections up, being able to be in rooms and spaces where you fathom, you know, while in medical school, like why aren't there other people looking like me?
01:04:56
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well this is a place where you're going to see up to close to 2,000 people. Last time we had over 2,000 people in person pull up in Philly. And so that feeling is so visceral and it's like everywhere you look like that's a black doctor, that's a black med student, or that's someone that's supporting the SNMA mission, right? And then just being able to be in these rooms and being able to see like your potential as a person.
01:05:21
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and see what you can accomplish and see that there's so many different ways in which you can envision a doctor you can be you see we've talked about all the events that's pulling up and another thing is like being able to like go through different like events like going through different um the different seminars it's like a real skill to be honest because there'll be some of them that'll be at the same time so it's like a rush it's like a little stress like yo i want to go to this event i want to go to the breakfast so
01:05:44
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I want to go to this talk on social media. So I remember I'd be dipping and dodging. I'd be pulling up for 15 minutes and I'd go to the other session for another 15 minutes, then come back and then I'd go to the other... Don't do that with the podcast sessions, please. No, I'm saying to our listeners, don't think you could be hopping up and down. We're going to be in our zone. We don't want all that hopping up and down. He said what she said.
01:06:09
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You better sit down and stay for the whole event. And that's, you heard it from me at least. So, I mean, always said it was cute during the first, the last live session. That will be cute for the podcast. So if I were you, sit down, sit down and listen and be engaged. We did have a podcast in Philly that I went and attended that I left. So I'm guilty that someone had their podcast that was being showcased and doing any of it. So.
01:06:36
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But don't do that to us. Although I did do that to somebody in 2019. I'm excited to see that, like you mentioned, the sea of Black people. So I've been to conferences before, right? Whether they have, you know, they're multicultural or it's like, you know, the church conference with the women. But I've, I've yet to be around just straight up Black students, Black medical students. I have a feeling it could get a little homecoming.
01:07:06
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Homecoming. Homecoming. It's going to. We've been a little bit like a homecoming in here, especially at night when, you know, those functions go down. And whatever stays at AMX, whatever happens to AMX stays there. I did not say that. But I am looking forward to being around like the people who will literally be my
01:07:37
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colleagues, peers in medicine for the future. I think, gosh, if you don't get a boost or some empowerment from that, why are you here? You know why I'm here. But I'm looking forward to it. Right. No. And none of us go to HBCU medical school. So I think this would just be a great way. But we all have gone to an HBCU so we know how it is. We know how it can feel. So I think it'll be great
01:08:07
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to be in a space like that again. So I'm definitely looking excited or super excited for AMEC and looking forward to all the festivities. I'm looking forward to what the podcasts, how we bring it and how we represent for SNMA and for AMEC. So I think we're gonna do great guys and we'll see all of our listeners there. Oh, wow. Yeah, that'll be the next episode. So that's our show. Thank you so much for joining us on this episode of The Lounge.
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