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The Statesman's BIG team reveal! Plus: intra-club roundtable | #PODPOD
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Five-time top-100 finisher, Statesman, reveals his full squad to the PODPOD family! Perhaps harbouring futile hopes that he'll return to his former glory, our beloved fossil gauges the opinions of the other three elite coaches on the panel while doing his best to ignore Dos. Will he return to his best, or is it another year of SuperCoach for Stato?
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Transcript
Introduction and Personal Stories
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you
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And welcome to the Pod Pod. It's your boy, Dossie, back on this Monday night, February 20th, 2023. The pipes are back. They're going all right. No longer rusty, Dossie. He's back, hopefully, for the full episode. But on this episode, we have our regular beloved Fossil, five-time top 100 finisher. The state's been doing a full team
Fantasy League Strategy Discussion
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reveal. Let's introduce the great man first, Stato.
00:00:44
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Why are you willing to let go of these trade secrets? Is it because you need some advice from the crew here to really upgrade that team of yours?
00:00:53
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No, not exactly, but this is the time of year where we basically should have a good idea with our structure. Who completes in that structure is a question mark, as we know the rookies probably determined the last bit of that. But look, most of our homework's done now, and it's the old theory where don't get sucked in too much of the practice games because
00:01:20
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Your guns aren't probably giving it 100%, but it should confirm roles for us. So we'll go through the squad as it stands, noting it will change, but I'll give a little secret of how I select some of the players. So we'll actually talk about the data I work through, which is some information that you gents actually help provide.
00:01:45
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Beautiful. Can't wait for that stato. And actually, we've got the full deck on board today and introducing the father for the second time. We got Papa Holmes back on deck. Congratulations, mate. And welcome back. Yeah, thanks, boys. It's been a bit of a whirlwind two weeks having our second child and a little bit of a fun fact. You can probably start to introduce me as Dr. Holmes from now on.
00:02:12
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Dossy boy because I didn't end up making it to the hospital and had to deliver my own child at home. So that was definitely an experience. No worries. Midwife homes are in the building here. Recommend it, mate. Would not recommend Stata, but to be honest, I wouldn't recommend you having a child at your age anyway, mate. I think you're a bit past it. Yeah, let's speak up.
00:02:35
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Better for the community. No, but that's an unreal story, Holmesy. So maybe another time, mate. But yeah, unbelievable scenes. Midwife Dr. Holmesy to the rescue. Let's also introduce Louis on deck again. And the other thing that we're going to be doing this episode is just going through a few of the intra-club notes across the weekend. And Louis was privileged enough to go see his beloved Port Power last Friday night. How'd that go, mate?
00:03:02
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Yeah, it was good, mate. They always put on a pretty good show every single year. So only being around the corner, I thought I'd head down and have a look, which we'll go into a little bit later. And yeah, keen to unpack Stado's fantasy side here and a little bit overwhelmed with some of the talent that we've got on this podcast tonight.
00:03:22
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I know, so to introduce our, we just couldn't get rid of him after he's, he's putting up some big points quality numbers this pre-season. Ah, Hami is back on deck to help with this one as well. And I think Stado kind of just let us know he really wanted him on here as well to help build that team out with his credentials, the two time top 10 finisher as well as Holmsey and Hami, bit of a tongue twister there, both guys, two time top 10 finishers, but welcome back to the show, Hami.
00:03:50
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Thanks Dossie, yep glad to be here and thanks for the invite to pick holes in Stado's lineup.
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Well, there's plenty. There's plenty. It's going to be good. But first of all, we are going to get into those Intra Club notes in a
Sponsorship and Event Announcement
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00:04:24
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Head to the highway this Saturday, Feb 25th, because the Cape League are going to be on before the traders and that may involve, well, it will involve a couple of members right here on the pod port. Louie and I are going to be involved in a bit of the pre-show there. So head on down, get your tickets.
00:04:42
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and hopefully we'll see you for a couple of beers at the highway. You guys can shout us a couple of beers, I reckon. No, no, no, just kidding. Louis will get you some. Let's get into some notes here from... Louis, do you want to go through your Port Adelaide trial notes first and then we're going to look through some other Intra Club headlines from across the Twitter sphere to look at some people that have been rising in the public eye.
00:05:09
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Yeah no worries mate and notes probably isn't really the right word. I've literally just jotted down a couple of words for each just because this time of year is still about practice and I'm sure we'll go into it a little bit later in the podcast but the unofficial and the official practice games are still to come so we can probably start reading more into it then but it's still a good time to take down some notes and just maybe observe some trends that you can look
Player Performance and Injury Updates
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for
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in the coming weeks which is always nice but to kick things off first of all Budders was probably the most requested player for me to talk about on the tweet that I sent out on Friday morning and unfortunately he didn't play so he's dealing with a bruised AC joint just a stinger it was a 50-50 to play on Friday and they've clearly just opted to to protect him which you can't blame so
00:06:03
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can't talk much about him and to a certain respect he's probably affected that midfield mix too so maybe we can't read as much into that as what we may have previously but moving on the wings were Dursmer and Bergman they looked great I think if you were keen on Dursmer
00:06:21
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in classic and certainly as a late draft flyer that he might be one to look for because he looked really good there back to his I call it his best but it was probably his first and second season where he put up that sort of 75 average and I think he's certainly capable of doing that again. Ollie Wines is an interesting one and if he didn't have an affected preseason with injuries probably someone we'd have right at the top of our lists in terms of starting.
00:06:49
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He only rejoined the main training last week. Did play in the interclub game and he looked like a bloke who hasn't really done a pre-season. So just a little bit underdone. I wouldn't call it proppy but just wasn't quite up to the pace of it yet. So he's going to take a couple more weeks and look may hit the ground running but I think he's probably one that you really need to
00:07:12
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start thinking critically about. Bryn Teichel was the sort of the it guy on Friday when he was named in the ones for the port side versus Scotty Lysette in the twos. Personally, I think that was more about getting minutes into Scotty Lysette and him actually playing for a team that's maybe not going to be front running as much and working a little bit harder and I'll tell you what, Scotty Lysette made Bryn Teichel look second rate and I think
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really exposed Brinteko for the depth that he's probably going to be this season so I wouldn't be getting too excited about him. But touching on Scott Lissette, if you were keen before there's no reason not to be keen now. I honestly looked really good but I just have to take it with that grain of salt that he is playing against a guy called Brinteko and Sam Hayes who have just played such little AFL football that
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No he was pretty much rucking through the whole time and I think part of that is like I said he has been a little bit underdone in the pre-season even though he's done most of it. I think a lot of it was about sort of preparing him for the season proper.
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It would be easy to throw your body around especially with a kick up the bum in the twos.
00:08:43
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It probably was something that they hadn't prepared for either because obviously Finlayson went down a couple of weeks ago which they wouldn't have thought would transpire so maybe just like we said a little bit of extra practice to just really see how he's going in there.
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And of course he was playing Teekle and Hayes, which is probably going to be more of a replica of what he's going to come up against in the AFL as AFL team sort of switched to that two rock system that we've seen in the last few years. Lockie Jones was an interesting one. He looked pretty good. But the reason I've written him down is he actually had CBAs. So that might be one to watch. I don't think they're going to be significant enough to
00:09:27
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It's a pick in classic but certainly worth noting nonetheless. A relevant one in classic though might be Jake Passini. So he's done I think maybe two ACLs or just the one but he's quite young. He's about 22. He's been on the list for a couple of years. Originally was a rookie pick. He's been coming along really nicely. They
00:09:49
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Clearly, he's still on the list. They rate him played in the internal trial and honestly looked really good and might be an outside chance for around one if not will debut in 2023. So as a basement defender, he might be someone that we can look to as we sort of see a bit of an empty cupboard there, but one to keep an eye on.
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Louis just one other that I mean I only I didn't catch much footy at all but I saw 10 minutes of the first quarter of this game the live stream was actually the recording is quite good but I think it was the second or the third CBA of the game and it was a clear like number one team and number two team and the ball went down to Jason Horn Francis and he looks straight up at Ro Zee who stand by himself dummies to him wheels around on the arc and just pumps it inside the forward 50 I thought he's not short on confidence how'd he go the rest of the game?
00:10:40
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Yeah, sorry, he was on my list. For some reason, I just skipped over him. Look, he was good, Armie. It's the first time that I've seen him live, of course. And he got a lot of midfield clock, didn't get a lot of football, but what he did do with it was generally pretty good. So almost like your typical sort of draftee, where in spurts, they were very good and showed a bit of an impact, but did fall out of the game.
00:11:06
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But based on that performance, and I was watching him pretty closely in particular, I probably would be fading him in classic formats, but it's a really difficult game to get a read on and something that we'll have to keep an eye on in the next two weeks. But yeah, I think Jason Horn-Francis role might be a little bit up in the air.
00:11:30
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moving around the grounds to some of the other intro club games gone around and and let's just sort of break these up into your rookies mid prices and premium and some of the news coming out of there. I guess the first one home Z would be just that there is seemingly a bunch of rookies
00:11:45
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putting up their hands to be considered for selection. You had guys like Will Phillips, Harry Schiezel apparently doing all right, Ginby, Chesa at West Coast, Will Ashcroft obviously looking like a no brainer, Phillip who, Cal McKenzie at Hawthorne and then Luke Peddler at Adelaide. So seems like those popular rookie options all kind of put their hands up again on the weekend.
00:12:08
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Yeah, look, it's definitely starting to sound like we might have a few rookies come through, which is good. We always get to this point of the season and we start to worry a little bit about whether they're going to come through. But I suppose the main thing is to just until we see these real practice games and real preseason games, just take it with a little bit of a grain of salt at the moment. We know that
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at this time of year, the main role of the clubs is to really pump up their lists and sell hope to their members. And how do you do that? You pump up the rookies to make it seem like they've done a good job with recruiting. So yeah, positive signs, but just reserve judgment until we start to see it in more intense practice games, which will be coming in the next two weeks.
00:12:50
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Alright and onto the mid prices. Harm me, let's ask you a few questions. Maybe we'll just take it turn by turn here. Josh Ward apparently had a big game for Hawthorne at that mid price bracket. Any interest from you, Josh Ward?
00:13:03
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Yeah well that's Holmes you see the clubs are doing their best as a PR stunt at the moment to talk up their junior players and I think that with the Hawks they've got Mackenzie and they've got Weddle probably to a slightly lesser extent but Josh Ward was the man they interviewed I actually listened to that and he spoke quite well but they reckon he was everywhere.
00:13:23
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how much you can read into that i'm not too sure priced at just over 70 though i'm not sure whether he's a starter in classic but if you don't start with him and then he puts up a couple hundreds in the first two rounds and he may be that one we jump on
00:13:39
Speaker
Yeah I'd just like to say I want to put my eggs in the Josh Ward basket. I think pre-season there was one where we had to do our favourite calls for the season. I jumped on John Newcombe because I was too embarrassed by you guys paying me out for Josh Ward. I like both the guys but I'm big on Josh Ward at the moment and I really think that he's now locked into the Lux winning squad.
00:14:02
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Junior numbers off the charts, a guy that's going to go in there and get all the center bounces in the world. Came back in the back half of last year, already gone plus 16 on his average and he's had another pre-season under his belt. I'm pretty big on Josh Ward probably being the next
00:14:17
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The next Jack McRae, the next Chad Wingard, the next Clayton Oliver, second year monster breakout. Watch this space. Stato shaking his head. I don't give a stuff, Stato. I don't give a stuff. Let's see you adjust him in your team soon enough by the end of pro season.
00:14:34
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Moving on to the next play for you, Stado. Ben Cunnington. Got three snags, bit of mid-time, a fair bit of mid-time. I think over 50% is what the track watchers were saying. Any interest as a forward option for us. But first and foremost, let's just say great to see him back out on the field, healthy and playing footy. But from a fantasy perspective, Stado, any interest?
Fantasy Football Picks and Player Comparisons
00:14:56
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Yeah, of course there's some interest. When we go through the team, we'll get to that forward line. I think there's some real high quality in there. Cunnington is about the 550 mark, is that correct? Yeah, it is in that range. Which is just a really interesting price. I want to see what the mix is. 668, yeah.
00:15:21
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Yeah, that's probably a bit more expensive than I was hoping for, but certainly I'm really interested to see the practice games of what's happening in North Midfield mix.
00:15:36
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Look, from a 75 price tag, you really need him to be going upwards of 90 to be a value good pick and to push the top six. And he's done that twice in his career, and he's going to be playing in the worst team he's ever been playing in his career. And you'd think now with Simpkin and LDU being the big mid-minute skies, I think he's going to be that more 50% CBA guy rotating forward. So it's a big no for me, unfortunately. It's a watch for me.
00:16:04
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We needn't remember the competition he was playing against on the weekend though, if that's the wooden spoons reserve team. Yep.
00:16:12
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Very true. It's a fair call. Miller has played a pre-season game is the note we've got here. So he's got through unscathed. Louis, you've mentioned his name a few times here. Now he's a forward eligible player. Obviously we had him as a mid price or even cheaper than that defender last year, but now there's some interest with him again, actually playing in that halfback role, but available as a forward. Could you go there?
00:16:37
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Look, I think you can, Doss. The difference being that this guy's actually had a full pre-season, which he didn't have last year, and he's had a full pre-season training with the half-back group, which is where he sort of got his start and where he became this, I guess, fantasy relevant player that Coach has liked because he looked like he was going to be able to push those numbers and break out.
00:17:02
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Obviously fitness sort of hampered that came back last year and we know how that went but I think if he's got that Distributing role off of halfback which he appeared to have in just a practice game During the week if that has any semblance of sort of looking like it might be real in the next couple of weeks and I think he's someone we have to highly consider and
00:17:24
Speaker
We know he can be an 85 plus guy in the role and we only need him to fire off at 85 for just a couple of weeks to be a worthwhile pick. So he's someone that I'll be keeping an eye on. He's by no means someone I want to pick, I'll be honest.
00:17:44
Speaker
If the things stack up then I think he could be pretty relevant for us in 2023. Elliot Yeo apparently had a big game in the practice match as well. Kyle, is this now just a neo-brainer?
00:17:59
Speaker
Yeah, I really like this one, Dossi. I don't like that line, but the one thing I do, don't get me wrong, he's locked in my side, absolutely. I think he's a no-brainer at this time of the preseason because he's got through unscathed and all of the word coming out of the Eagles is that he's back to his best and he's, you know, he's
00:18:17
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he's getting that inside midfield role and looking really good. I do just worry that there might be a little bit of management throughout the season, and that's not necessarily him missing games, but it might be a little bit of in-game management where he goes back to the back line just to make sure that they can get 22 games out of him, because I think that's going to be their main goal for the season. We know he can score well off the halfback, and if he's getting midfield minutes, then he's going to be a very good scorer for us, but that's the only thing I kind of worry about, Hami.
00:18:45
Speaker
Yeah, I think that with these sorts of games, I think that there are some things we can take out of it. And these guys that are just ticking another box as they work their way to round one is a good example. Yo, he's been injury plagued but he seems to be putting in a solid body of work here at the moment.
00:19:01
Speaker
And you've got to think positively about that. You compare that against Salem, who's now not in full training and sitting out sessions with the thyroid thing. So there's a good contrast there of one you're getting more keen on and one you're probably taking off your list now. I've just got one question for Dos. When are we going to make the call that we're not drafting five players, we're actually only drafting four players?
00:19:30
Speaker
What's this? God, Dos, slow on the uptake, buddy. So there's five of us here, all high quality with exception to yourself. And we've got a 20 team league actually happening. So I think we should be putting a bit of a call out to see which of the listeners would like to get drafted by Harmony. For Christ's sake, I feel sorry for the fifth person you draft.
00:19:59
Speaker
Well, yes. So for those not aware, we are doing a listener league draft and we're doing it in a different way. We're going to be drafting. I believe next week is the deadline. I mean, yeah, the final week of Feb this week coming. So we're looking at drafting. That was when the deadline we put out there, but we're doing a unique draft where
00:20:19
Speaker
Listeners, you can pitch your pitch as to who you want to represent out of these four hosts, but we do have our emergency here as well, the subvest harmony. He's killing it, mate. What do you mean? I'm willing to pop out. Maybe we open up one slot at the sacrifice of Stado, seeing as he's very... I don't think you're taking into account the 2023 results here, Stado, so I'm going to take a step back there with Dossie taking it out.
00:20:48
Speaker
Listen, if you do want to apply for heart to be drafted by Harmey, I might draft in Harmey's honour next week. No. If you're willing to... Look, if we get enough people going for it, then Harmey can maybe jump on for one team. I'm giving him a pat on the back. I missed this ad read in between Yo CBAs and Finn Callahan.
00:21:14
Speaker
really on track here, guys. Finn Kalinan is the next player we're going to be talking about, as you just alluded to, Louis. Do you want to talk about him? Three games last year at VFL level before getting called up, he averaged 103 points, playing more as that inside midfielder, and then he's now getting CBAs
00:21:34
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entering his second year. Do you reckon there's some upside here? He's only in the 400k bracket. He's a guy, you know, maybe with Tanner brewing leaving as well, who had 25% CBAs for them last year. He could be a player that maybe jumps up.
00:21:47
Speaker
There is upside here, Dos. And speaking pre-show with you guys, GWS have held their cards pretty close to their chest. But when they have spoken about Finn Callahan, they've been overwhelmingly positive. And it sounds like he's going to have some sort of role in that midfield at times. So the CBA usage should be pretty decent for, I think he's a second year player. So yes, the upside's there.
00:22:15
Speaker
You'd really want to see it in the season proper, not even just the practice games to start him, in my opinion. I had some injuries to start last year, but we've picked up a couple here. Callahan's one, and Josh Ward's another, where Hydra picks, I think Callahan was three, and they had good junior scoring numbers as well, so Ward was over 100 in the nab league. Callahan was about 90 in the nab league, so he may be a bit more of an outside player, but I think the potential is there.
00:22:43
Speaker
And unfortunately for these players, they are mid-only. You know, when we've had our Clayton Oliver's and Toronto's in the past that have really broken out in their second year, they've had forward status and started from that sort of 60 price range. So that's what makes it a little bit more difficult, albeit I think Callahan's priced around the 40, so it's coming from a bit of a lower base.
00:23:03
Speaker
Okay, last couple of players in this mid price bracket, Tom Powell getting CBAs and Constable at half back. Take us through Tom Powell Kyle and whether you, you know, a lot of buzz coming around for Tom Powell all of a sudden after a pretty disappointing second year. Last year, almost the forgotten man at North and now coming into his third year looking a million bucks.
00:23:26
Speaker
Yeah once again Dossie, high draft pick was very good in his first season, kind of lost his way in the team a little bit last year, roll wise and what not but at his price point and being a mid only you really need him to go that sort of 85 plus even higher and
00:23:42
Speaker
I can't really see that happening with LDU, Simpkin, Cunningham, all around the mark in that midfield. I think there's, as much as it pains me to say, too much competition for ball, and North Melbourne aren't going to be that high a scoring fantasy team, at least at this point in time. So he's not someone I'm looking to start anyway.
00:24:01
Speaker
As much as North Melbourne sucked, who I think they've probably got some of the best midfield depth, certainly young midfield depth coming through in the comp, to be honest. So he's always going to have that competition for spots. Not saying he can't get there, but there might be a heavier rotation than we think.
00:24:19
Speaker
Hami, what about Charlie Constable, who is a bit of my boy there. You know 193 centimetres, I think Stado said pre-show, playing a bit of that defensive role and confirmed in the Interclub game the other day.
00:24:32
Speaker
I think I'm going to need to see it, Dossie. I'm not a believer at this point in time, I'm afraid, because if Stewardew really wanted to play him, he would have got a bit of a run last year. They had some injuries last year. He still couldn't get in there. Played the season in the VFL. They've now tried to recycle him as a back. I'm just not convinced at this point in time.
00:24:53
Speaker
at 330,000 as a defender. I think we'll certainly give it a look over the next few weeks and see how it plays out. I mean, we're talking about a guy that could find the ball in the midfield there when he got an opportunity at Geelong, so there's potential there. You know, he's got a bit of scoring about him, but I need to see it. Yeah, we know Stado is going to pick him, though, in Supercoach's basement price, so he's good to go in Supercoach.
00:25:18
Speaker
That's for sure. And another player round his price, Tom Cole, had a big game. Louis, you were pretty keen on him over a couple of vodka soda limes with your boy Dossie on the weekend. Any thoughts on Tom Cole now that you've sobered up?
00:25:32
Speaker
Well, yeah, now that I've sobered up, I think that's a shocking cold Aussie. Clearly, I was only looking at that mark category when you dropped that one about nine vodka sodas deep. But no, I would be very surprised if he's going to be relevant for us, mate. So I'll just let you pick him and you can drive away in your lucks with him.
00:25:54
Speaker
Thanks mate. Look, we're going to touch on four premium players, then it is time for the big team reveal from the Statesman. Took Miller, bit of hamstring tightness concerned, Louis.
00:26:06
Speaker
Oh, not really. But at his price, if you were going to start him, then it's probably enough to send you in the other direction just because it's a large investment on one player who may or might not be dealing with some hamstring issues. Caleb Daniel entering the center bounce mix. Is this just another preseason showing Kyle or are you convinced that maybe there's some points on offer down back and maybe some concern with McCray and Bond playing half forward?
00:26:37
Speaker
Dossie, I think this is a classic pre-season hype where in your intra-club matches you've got two sets of midfielders and they're just trying a few different things just to see where he fits. I know Bailey Dales, they're sort of main guy back there, and Ed Richards came into his own last year, so maybe they seem like they want to play him around a little bit, but price at 84, you'd need him to go 95 plus and be a top six defender from that price point.
00:27:01
Speaker
I think with McRae, Bont, Baz, Libba, all those players in the midfield, even if he does get a run through there at sort of M4, M5, it's going to be pretty tough for him to put up those kind of numbers. So, Holmes here, you're saying you haven't gone cold on McRae and Bont because they're forwards now? Oh, yeah. Can't wait for them to be getting forward status in round six. They're going to be absolute locks.
00:27:23
Speaker
Now, but it is it is important to remember. And as I said at the top of the show, it's training, it's practice at this point. And there's no point sort of putting Caleb Daniel in for 15 percent CBAs just because he's going to do that in the real stuff. You might as well go to your
00:27:39
Speaker
You're bonafide mids who have been in that role for years and years and years and know exactly what they're doing. You may as well park them, put in a Caleb Daniel 100% of the time so he can sort of apply his craft and show what he's got. And then once the river stuff starts, obviously, it reverts back to the norm to some extent.
00:27:57
Speaker
That's why it's tough to read into these things at this point and hopefully we get a better read on it in probably two weeks time at the official practice game, but knowing Bevo, we might be staring down to Caleb Daniel, bloody 90% CBA.
00:28:13
Speaker
Well, moving on to... Oh, and by the way, sorry, Dos, it took a rut contest too in that pinch club. Of course. Looking at one of my favourite players this pre-season in my keeper league, he's going to be in our teams for many years to come. He's already in a crapload of teams as we speak, but Nick Daikos, we saw the tweets going out from
00:28:35
Speaker
from Jen, the beloved Collingwood fan that we should all be following on Twitter. 174,000 tweets. She's done a record about 170 plus on Collingwood. So you can guarantee that she's out on the track watching what's happening. Mentioned that Nick Daikos was at just about every center bounce on the weekend and was just dominant. Harmony, is he an absolute lock for us now with this added news that he could be in that midfield mix and probably likely will be.
00:29:05
Speaker
I wouldn't say absolute like the Dossi, I mean I am keen on him. He's a great player and he does the flashy stuff but he does the hard stuff too. So yeah, I'm not sure whether there's room for him at the moment in that Pies midfield, but maybe he is and maybe Pendles and Crisp are the ones that go out. But I think that his scoring will be probably as good in the midfield as it was on the back flank. So I think
00:29:32
Speaker
He's probably not going to go down from the 86 points that he's priced at. Absolute lock, you heard it from Harmony first. Who wants to talk about Dunkley-Midfield? Somebody's put here. Yeah, that's a course. Who wants to talk about that? Who's put the dot point there, Dunkley-Midfield? Louis, I reckon that was you.
00:29:51
Speaker
No, I put that one there, does he? Look, it was just because he's come through. I mean, he's doing what we thought he was going to do up there. They've recruited him as a midfielder. It seems to be what he's going to do. And I think that there's there is upside from his position and he's at F1 that we all expect him to be. Breaking news, Dunkley, midfield. Thanks, Hami. Maybe we won't. We'll take that team off you next week, I think, mate.
00:30:18
Speaker
Stayed out. It's time to get into. I want to bring back your music, your theme song from last year, The Sugar Hit, because we hope you get plenty of sugar hits this fantasy season with your beloved squad.
00:30:33
Speaker
What do you get when you're zero and old? You big bad players ignore advice you've been told. Unfortunately, his best life's in the past. But, Stato says, you can kiss my ass. I will go play Super Coach. Here is Stato. I can't be bothered here's Stato's team review.
00:30:54
Speaker
Stado, it's the team reveal. The listeners have been waiting for it. Get into it. Where do you want to start? We go on defender right through just the standard reveal here.
Building a Fantasy Team: Strategies and Approaches
00:31:04
Speaker
Yeah, certainly will. And thanks very much. I'm hoping for some sugar and I'll explain how I'm trying to get some sugar. So firstly, there's a fair bit of homework put into who ends up in my team. Of course, this is the team prior to the actual real practice games. As I've talked about, I don't go overboard with club v club because you need two sets of midfield. So who's actually getting the time in the real stuff is actually more important.
00:31:34
Speaker
So I'll take it through, this is how I work my spreadsheet when I'm trying to finalise who my squad is for each line.
00:31:45
Speaker
I actually go through the rankings and this is not just Stado's rankings, this is as many rankings as I can put together. So high quality people like Selby, so his rankings for each of the lines I include. Of course, because we do a fair bit of work in the draft kit, we update these rankings regularly, depending on the news.
00:32:08
Speaker
But so all the draft doctor boys are there. There's probably only one group I avoid from here and that's putting the keeper league stuff in only because it actually has a bit of a slant towards the younger players. So it can actually take away from what's it actually going to be this that season. So that actually gives me an average ranking. So for example, I'll use
00:32:36
Speaker
Where's a good one? Brae Shore. So Brae Shore right across the board is average ranking of 5.6. So then I put it in the column. I then go on the last three years of average points for position. So average point for position for a D1 is generally 108, for example.
00:33:01
Speaker
and a D25 is 84 points. Does that make sense? And then you effectively put next to their price against the points they're allocated to in the general ranking, and then that gives them a value. Now the value is based on the magic number. So we all know the magic number this year is around the 8850.
00:33:27
Speaker
So then I'm looking just at the top rankings of each line. So the top 20 in forward defence, the top 12 in the rucks. And I go a little bit deeper in the midfielders, about the top 40. And then it actually gives me who the best value players are if they achieve the combined ranking model. Does that make sense to everyone?
00:33:57
Speaker
nerd. Yeah. So essentially you're correlating a bunch of people who are doing their own research as well. Correct. Getting what their average rank is, seeing where that sits.
00:34:13
Speaker
Um, amongst, uh, so, you know, your rocks, for example, one to 25 where they sit with that, what those rocks have scored in the previous three years and where that would be ranked, um, going into 2023.
00:34:28
Speaker
And that basically gives them a magic number value. So I'll go through the first line, I'll explain the structure, and once we've complete the line, I'll let you bag the living shit out of it, and then I'll refer back to my value list, if that makes sense. Can I just quickly ask that, you know, obviously Stata, we do pay out your...
00:34:50
Speaker
your game these days after a couple of, a couple of days, but you've had, you've had many, you've had much success in the past. I just want to know, you know, homie and homsey and even Louis yourself as well, like you guys have had great success in the game is without explaining your particulars around your strategy. Is this the level of detail you go to with, you know, like a spreadsheet or whatever your method is, is this what I have to be doing to get up to the top? Homsey, you go first, mate. I just want a quick round table. Is this the level?
00:35:21
Speaker
Well, not for me. I haven't really gone into that much depth with spreadsheets and stuff, but I guarantee I'm putting in more time than Stata always in terms of researching players and going back and looking at past data and projecting and things like that. So probably doing a lot of the same things, but just not collating it to the level that Stata is. But you have to put the time in. It's a no brainer. We're coming up against a lot of savvy fantasy coaches these days that are putting in a lot of time and you are going to have to find an edge somehow and this is how it's done.
00:35:52
Speaker
How's that, Holmes? He sneaks in that he's put in more time than State. I didn't notice that just then. He has a real job. But who knows? He lets us know every day that he has a real job. If you sleep with snouts, it's easier to hop on a 40-wire, isn't it? What about you, Harvey?
00:36:09
Speaker
Oh look I really like that, thanks Stado. I guess I do a bit of a range of things and I probably don't go to the level of detail that Stado has but in a very simplified manner I write down what people are priced at and I write down what I think they can go at.
00:36:26
Speaker
and it's arriving at a similar kind of model to what Stado's outlined and I do look at what other people say by way of rankings and I haven't got the Draft Doctors kit yet but I do need to for that purpose to have a look at whether other guys have ranked certain players and validate my thinking or force me to look at a few other people that I haven't checked out properly yet.
00:36:49
Speaker
And what it effectively does, DOS, is it takes away the individual bias, because we all fall into that trap and we all have our own bias. So this system, and sometimes it creates people popping in front of me that I wouldn't have seriously considered, and therefore I can go away and actually start doing Holmesy's additional research. Yeah.
00:37:16
Speaker
And Louis, I know you spend hours and hours with your prep, as we saw. Even last year, you had your entire list of a document ready to go as to who you were going to be picking this year.
00:37:27
Speaker
Yeah and that's part of it Dossy, so it's easy to forget and I just like at the end of the year to jot down a couple of names while the fantasy app is still there and just identify some blokes that are going to be value for me and that really helps with sort of creating a skeleton team straight away with some players that I can really see myself starting with and then from there it's about building
00:37:54
Speaker
On top of that, and that comes from a mixture of research, gut feel, which you can never quantify, articles. It really is just ingesting just about any information that I can, but all based off of the stats at the end of the day.
00:38:13
Speaker
And you've got to look at the reasons why you think they're underpriced as well. I do similar things to what Louis did. I had a look at the end of the season to see what's occurred for some of those players. And using the AFL fantasy's pricing method, I mean, Adam Chera, I think he had a game where he got a five. I think that LDU had a game where he had 14. Darcy Parris had a game that he had 30. These are just off the top of my head. Players that I've looked at and thought, well, why are they underpriced? And there's just a good example.
00:38:41
Speaker
They're baked in straight away and that's where you can get that sometimes guaranteed upside if you think that they're going to keep going in that same trajectory. There's a lot of different ways to do it, but I think at the end of the day, the more information that you can bring in for yourself, the better informed your opinions are going to be.
00:39:03
Speaker
I love it, guys. Thanks for that little roundtable and sorry for rudely interrupting. We've had the longest teaser of all time for Stado's team. It better deliver. Go on, Stado. Yeah, so we'll go through the defence. I've got three players that are 625K and more expensive and then effectively five rookies at the moment. I just see currently there's going to be a host in there.
00:39:28
Speaker
So at the moment I'm saving a lot of money in defence. I don't like the expensive guys right now. I must admit that and looking for value. So D1 I have Nick Daikos, Hayden Young in D2 and Elliot Yeo in D3.
00:39:48
Speaker
So then currently the five I've actually got in the rookie price is Charlie Constable. I'm just waiting to see if that's actually real or not but there's quite a few players around that 300 mark that I'm quite happy to take a little punt at. I've got Reuben Gibney, Darcy Wilmont who seems to be back in favour at the moment, Campbell Cheser who looks like he's back in favour at the moment and Weddell
00:40:13
Speaker
noting that those bottom five will change depending on what selections are. But that's a defence at the moment, as you can see, saving a shitload of cash there. Just quickly, Hayden Young is at D1 and Daikos is D2 based on price. Yeah, I've actually put, Daikos has got a higher ranking, so I've put him as the higher one. I know the price you're saying, yes.
00:40:42
Speaker
It's just a pet peeve of mine. Any comments, thoughts on the defensive line, guys? Saving a fair bit of coin there. Yeah, I like the theory. So you want to hear the value? You go, Stata. Yeah, sorry, mate. Yeah, you can go back and have a crack at my theory. So the value. Elliot Yeo was at number one with a value of 7,022. Nick Daikos at two. Hayden Young at three.
00:41:13
Speaker
So that's the reason why I've selected those three. So they've all got potential upside, some much greater than the others. You want to hear the scary fourth one dos, which I didn't put in? Yes. You want to guess? The fourth what, sorry?
00:41:36
Speaker
Who's the fourth highest value in? Yes, correct. I was going to say Tom Cole, but. Yeah. And the first real premium that shows up is Tom Stewart. I will say across the board, the rankings vary for him. So from as low as four to as high as 12.
00:42:00
Speaker
So there's some great variables with Tom Stewart, and I think that probably reflects your scoring too. The ceiling's massive, but can get closed down or can do a defensive role. So Stado, how many of Nick Dacos, Hayden Young and Elliott Yow are you expecting to be keepers? Is it all three?
00:42:21
Speaker
Yeah, it's a real question mark. They will need to show some real upside to be keepers. The reality is it's the one line where I'm not trying to confirm or bank one, two or three, which is a bit unusual for me, but I think we've got a really unusual year in the defenders. So I'm not convinced that those top three guys have got upside.
00:42:53
Speaker
I was going to make a similar comment, I suppose, Stata, I think you're going to probably end up using a number of trades back there as progressively over the season as you chase those premiums. Yeah, so something to bear in mind when you have that number of undervalued people and rookies as well.
00:43:13
Speaker
Yeah, I really like the theory as well, Stado. It's something I've been looking to do is really spend down in the defence because a lot of our top price defenders are what we call fairly priced or maybe even a little bit overs after having career best years.
00:43:28
Speaker
I still think we need to try and bank one of them, and even if one of them doesn't necessarily present value, but if you can get one of your docks, dawson, cinclairs or brayshaws to at least hold their value and bank one of those keepers, I think that's still something we need to look at.
00:43:44
Speaker
as someone that was consistently chasing value last year in the defence and watching Doc Dawson and Sinclair just consistently get away from me, I think, are smart players to try and get one of those locked away early. But the theory of spending down in defence, I think, is something that's quite common and a good way to look at it this year. I'm hoping one of those are one of those that actually pop up. So Sinclair, you're talking previously was a 79 guy at best.
00:44:13
Speaker
So I'm hoping that's the case. I think Dawson might've, best year, might've been 85. So I'm hoping that one of those three ends up being, preferably three out of three end up being. But yes, understand your point, but we'll roll back to that once we complete.
Evaluating Team Structures and Player Roles
00:44:33
Speaker
Awesome. Can't wait for the next line, Stado. Let's go.
00:44:36
Speaker
Okay, Midfield, spending a bit more here at M1 is Jack Steele. Just get that lockaway captain and with the rolling lockout, St Kilda a last slot. And I like the fact that Jack Steele can, you know, be my stop and go to captain if things don't work out with the VC. At M2 is Tom Mitchell.
00:45:03
Speaker
I don't think he can get the 120s back, but I'm comfortable he's 105 to 110. Tim Taranto, which might seem an unusual pick, is sitting at M3. We'll roll back on that discussion as well once we get to the forward line. But obviously new club, new role, just killing it at the moment is the word. But again, is that PR or is that reality?
00:45:31
Speaker
I've got LDU at M4. I think good value, good upside. Obviously need to see it come through with the practice games, but really good matchups early, which is good. At M5, I have Tom Green.
00:45:49
Speaker
So obviously, midfield role, major upsides, I see the value there. Then I've got three rookies on field, Ashcroft, Cam McKenzie at this stage. I want to see how real that is. There's a fair bit of positive talk about him and Will Phillips, of course, and two just holding the pine at the moment, Johnson and Roberts.
00:46:12
Speaker
Freo and Swans, good young inside mids, but I think they might be more likely downgrade targets later on in the year, but we'll wait to see where those positions can get filled by. That's the mid field. What do you think, Tom Crankin? Go State-O. He's somebody that I was actually really keen on about two months ago, and I guess I was sort of since cooled on that price point as we got closer to the season.
00:46:40
Speaker
Well, so I'll go to the value to answer that question. Value number one is Tom Green. Value number two is Tom Mitchell. Value number three is LDU. Jack Steele sits at eight. The ones in between Jack Steele, there's one I'm interested in, probably the others I want to watch and hop on if they come true, which is Cherra, Sarong, Newcomb, and the one I'm interested in, Bontum Pelly.
00:47:08
Speaker
And I will say Noah Anderson is right behind Jack Still. Now, Tom Green is sitting at number one value with a predicted 96. And I think he is probably going to exceed that. So if he's best value at 96, I'm hoping for 100 to 102.
00:47:33
Speaker
Stado, so when you're like doing your, as you've said, you've done your little aggregate system where you're sort of aggregating all the different draft rankings, presuming yours also go in there, but do you put any, you don't put any extra weight on your draft rankings and then at the end of it, your selection? No, my rankings are just part of the system, so I don't go overweight.
00:47:59
Speaker
So I wasn't the highest position on Tom Green. I wasn't the highest position on Tom Mitchell and I wasn't the highest position on the LDU. Nor was I the highest position on Jack Steele. So Jack Steele, Silby has him at number one.
00:48:16
Speaker
Just quickly on that, sorry boys. Do you think, you know, I know Tom Green's presenting a lot of value, but if he goes from 85 to 95 or 96, like everything that I've sort of had with success in the past, that tells me that's not enough. And I get we've got a year this year where there's not as many players that are presenting value just at this point in time. It can clearly change. But yeah, that would kind of worry me a bit. I just don't think that's going to get it done.
00:48:47
Speaker
Yeah, but I think there's bias on previous scores with him at the moment. So I'm hot on him and currently what everyone ranks him puts him at the highest value. I'm taking that punt.
00:49:01
Speaker
I was going to say something similar to Holmesy. I mean, I don't think that he will be a keeper. Obviously, that's different to what you've outlined there. And I think that you're going to get more benefit from a Dom sheet or even a James Wharpool type that notes you don't have any mid prices in your midfield there other than Tom Green. And if he's only going to give you between 10 and 15 points, I'm not quite sure about that pick at the moment.
00:49:27
Speaker
Yep, and as I say, we'll roll back to that overall structure once we complete.
00:49:34
Speaker
So it'll sort of make sense to you a bit. All right, moving into the rucks. Now this is almost as confusing as our defensive line. So R1 is Rowan Marshall. I think we all agree the upside if he has the key role is right there. So he's stuck at R1.
00:49:57
Speaker
until he gets injured or plays full forward. And in R2 I currently have Jared Wits and at R3 at the moment is the holder is Max Heath. The reason is Ruck Ford, highly likely
00:50:17
Speaker
not to be selected, but there is a bit of a chance with the depth at the moment. So he might be one that gets called upon. But again, Cincilda being a lot of late games, if I do get a really good VC, then that's the opportunity that I can loop and put the captain on him. That's the ruck line. Thoughts before I go to the value?
00:50:45
Speaker
Witz is pretty unique mate and I don't mind him as a pick at R2 because he's probably one of the guys that I can see in that ruck division that I'm pretty confident is going to land somewhere between what he's priced at and maybe
00:51:00
Speaker
maybe a 95 and even then could be some scope to go past that and in a line where there's just so many question marks and so many things up in the air you may be onto something there sort of death by a thousand cuts or rather death by a thousand 90s you know so he might be the pick at R2 until sort of Joe Blow comes out of the blue and puts his hand up as being that bonafide next ruckman off the rank assuming that Marshall is number one.
00:51:30
Speaker
I just have a question for you. What do you think the absolute worst case is for Brody Grundy this year? Absolute worst case? He's down here as 95. Worst case? Worst case or best case? Oh, no, no. I'm just telling you what the sign is. I don't know what worst case is because I don't understand what they're doing yet.
00:51:56
Speaker
So the Brody Granny piece for me is to watch and learn.
00:52:02
Speaker
Yeah, so if it comes out in pre-season, if it comes out in pre-season that, you know, Grundy is getting that sort of, let's call it 50-50 ruckshare. Let's call it 50-60% with, you know, Melbourne being a high scoring fantasy team and Gold Coast not being a high scoring fantasy team. And we kind of, you know, agree that, you know, Grundy is probably not going to go worse than his 93. Would you consider flipping over to Grundy instead of Wits knowing that there's potential upside there, whereas Wits is pretty much what he is?
00:52:34
Speaker
Yeah, it's a really good question. At the moment, I'm really keen to have people that are just playing 100% ruck. To me, the whole Melbourne thing is just a watch. And I'll wait to see what happens. If one of them goes down, trust me, I'm jumping on the other straight away.
00:52:53
Speaker
I mean that's probably where the death by a thousand nineties thing sort of comes in because there might be a game where Grundy does pump that 105 and then it gets flipped on its head and all of a sudden he's you know scraping to a 75 because Gorn's taking that ruck time so it's really hard to get a read on on how they're going to go week to week which probably makes it hard to read into their practice games as well because I think
00:53:18
Speaker
At the end of the day, their goal is to win games of footy and that's going to be variable and there's going to be a lot of different ways to do that. So it's going to be hard to predict their roles week on and week out. No interest in Darcy Cameron Stado given the news he's kind of back in full training?
00:53:37
Speaker
Yeah, no, mate. So I'll go through the value list. So the value list, number one, and reasonably quite clear, number one, is Scott Lycett, and that's with him getting 80.
00:53:52
Speaker
Number two is Marshall, number three is Wits, then Darcy Cameron, then Brody Grundy, then Riley O'Brien, then Tim English. So just looking at that data and I will say that the three to seven is quite close.
00:54:14
Speaker
So it then becomes a match-ups and who's one, who's two. I'm fearful on Cameron because he's had an interrupted pre-season and the fact that he has shown to be sharing with Cox. And what were your opinions on Tim English there, Stado? Interrupted now twice.
00:54:38
Speaker
a highest price, hard matchup round one. I'm just going to sit down and wait and see. And just to tack on to you mentioning Scott Lysette and something that I realised during the week, which I think the listeners will be interested in, is that since Scottie Lysette's been at Port Adelaide, against Brisbane, who he plays in round one,
00:55:01
Speaker
uh he's averaged 57 across the last four years and then going back two years he's actually averaged 45 so it's gotten worse and that's the sort of player that if you're selecting you really need him to go 80 80 80 you know at least to start just to get that ball rolling but if he drops a putrid score around one then it's a
00:55:23
Speaker
half sudden you're already on the back foot. The break evens going up and all of a sudden your value pick at R2 is literally doing the opposite of what you need it to. You were talking him up an hour ago, Louie. I was, mate. Yeah, I was talking him up because he will be the the rock one. But with that round one matchup, I just think it's it's enough to keep me away and maybe the listeners.
00:55:53
Speaker
All right, so moving on to the forward line. This one's pretty quick and pretty easy because I've had Taranto in the midfield already. I think you know who my big three are. It's Dunkley, Cogs and Connor. At F4 is Toby McLean. Then I've got Rookies in the other four position. Filippo,
00:56:17
Speaker
peddler, jewellery and long at the moment. They're all holding places until we find out selections and Cedric as the utility at the moment being a midfield forward. I don't know if he's playing. Of course that position gets filled depending on who gets named. Before I go with value, any thoughts on the forward line?
00:56:40
Speaker
No, I like it, mate. They're pretty, I hate saying the word vanilla, but they are this year in Dunkley, Toronto and Rosie. I think a lot of coaches agree that those guys are going to be the top three and then extrapolating that out to Toronto as well.
00:56:57
Speaker
they're probably going to be the top four forwards and McLean there at F4 I think is a pretty popular pick and rightfully so. He should be the mid-pricer that pops this year. We've seen him do it in the past and him coming in for that final last year I think there's a lot pointing towards him at least being an 80 guy which makes him 35 points undervalued off the top of my head maybe a little bit less but definitely a smash pick
00:57:25
Speaker
You never said all about cogs state are you got cogs and green I see so I guess you're banking on those two being the primary ball winners at GWS in a team that's what developing are they or they staying about the bottom four.
00:57:39
Speaker
They're Richmond, mate, so they'll come out for and make the top eight easy. Yeah, look, practice games are really important. Doing the value is Connor 1, Tim 2, Cogs 3 and Dunks. 4 obviously Dunks is the fourth because of his average and his price from last year.
00:58:03
Speaker
To be honest, I love that group. I love the four. They're all going to be playing midfield, which is exactly what you want out of your forward line players. And there's such good value. So I'm pretty comfortable. You want me to throw you the kicker right now? Go on. In the bank is 620K.
00:58:28
Speaker
So what that does is it gives us the flexibility that if you don't get the rookies in the forward line and you can flip one of the forward lines in a Toronto, throw in a Dom sheet and you've got still about 200k in the bank.
00:58:50
Speaker
If the rookies do land where you are, you can make the decision of getting rid of Constable and seriously look at one of the big three defenders. So you've got that sort of play at the moment. So you're letting the rookies define where your last bit of spend is. And that's why I've got, I love those four. They're better value than what the midfielders and less risk.
00:59:19
Speaker
So I'm happy to actually put the extra one in there for the time being to find out where I land. So Dom's sheet's not off the radar, I just want to see what West Coast do in that midfield and then let the practice games confirm the positions, otherwise you've got the other values like a Bonton Peddley,
00:59:43
Speaker
maybe in Anderson. You'll notice Macrae's not in that team. He sits at value number 10. Although I will say the news that come out that he's spending a bit of time on the half forward line just gives me a little bit of a shake. But again, let's see what happens in the practice games.
01:00:04
Speaker
I suppose what sticks out for me at the moment is just looking through your team. I can count 8 keepers that you've got at the moment or 8 players that you're pretty confident are going to be top of their lines and someone you're going to keep for the rest of the season.
Revisiting Strategies and Maintaining Flexibility
01:00:18
Speaker
You've been pretty big on the record before saying that you like to try and get your 11-12 keepers in your starting squad. Have you had a rethink about how you like to play the game?
01:00:33
Speaker
No, I'm just sort of forced into it with the defence. So when you say that, if all three of those defenders end up being top eight defenders, then I've actually got the number I'm after. But look, you're right. This year, I think generally most lines have sort of clear answers. The defence in the ruck this year is probably the first time I've looked at it and gone,
01:01:00
Speaker
I don't know, I really don't. So that's why I'm just going back to my research on the value and it gives me greater flexibility to pick up. There's something going to pop up in defence that we don't know about.
01:01:17
Speaker
and I just want to get in a position where I can sit and wait. I reckon at this stage could be anywhere between 100 and 200k that I've got sitting in the bank ready to jump for around two or three. And to be fair with your what you've got left you've probably got enough change to put on somebody else's head to quickly get those sort of keepers up to that sort of 10 11 market at a minimum as well as sort of getting up a
01:01:45
Speaker
a rookie on your bench that you might be able to use? Yeah, absolutely. I think I'm just a 20K off of taking constable up to docketing.
01:02:00
Speaker
if that's a cheaper rookie comes on because I've got Weddle at 266 sitting on the bench in defence, and there's a couple more like that, that I can move and go to one of the big dogs in defence. I can move to sheed, add sheed into the midfield. So I've got a fair bit of flexibility at the moment, which I think I need.
01:02:24
Speaker
I think the other thing that kind of sticks out Stado is that you've got a lot of basement rookies on the bench too. So I think having that cash there to help with them is going to be handy, but I'm not sure you're going to have all 600K of that to be able to get onto someone to get up to what we think is a keeper, I think.
01:02:41
Speaker
For me, just personally, I think you're probably asking a little bit too much out of Tom Green, Davies Uniac, Daikos and Young all to be the keepers that we need. I think you're going to fall short there. And I think one of those players has to go up to someone that's going to be a little bit more bona fide. Just looking at it myself, I think you might be caught in a little bit of no man's land, especially early if a lot of these players don't pop like we need them to. And you lose some rookies and we say two trades a week, but they do go pretty quickly if
01:03:08
Speaker
your team starts to go pear shaped. So that's just how I'm kind of looking at it at the moment but it is interesting your value theory and we haven't looked at the game like that in as much detail as you have.
01:03:20
Speaker
And look at the end of the day, it's why I've got 620 in the bank, isn't it? Because I've made some savings. Now, whether that's where it lands, it ends, they need to be able to convince me, they need to confirm their place and only showing the right form and the right role during this next two, three weeks is the important piece.
01:03:43
Speaker
And at the end of the day, you can drop down to a Caleb Daniel 100% mid-time and maybe a bit of upside there. Yup. Correct.
01:03:54
Speaker
Now, Hami, I just want to get your opinion. I've been a bit quiet here, you know, just biting my tongue. I'm not a fan of the status team, to be honest. What do you reckon about holding the... No end riches. No end riches. What do you think about holding 620K in the bank? Haven't seen that used too often around the traps. Hami, you're a fan of this, you know, just... He's basically saying to us, he doesn't have any faith in his picks that he's got to have 600K in the bank to correct all these stuff ups after round one.
01:04:25
Speaker
I think it's foolish. I'm not doing this at round one. Quite simply, it's foolish and an action of somebody that doesn't really know where they're headed at the moment, does he, boy? So I retake that advice that harm you should be in the draft, just to confirm.
01:04:42
Speaker
No, look, I haven't said too much myself either, Dossie, but I think that with the exception of wits, every one of those are players that I have looked at at some point over the course of the pre-season too. So some I'm less keen on and some I'm red-hot keen on. So, yeah, wits I haven't really looked at too much. And Charlie Constable, obviously, I mentioned earlier in the podcast, so I wouldn't need to see it. But look,
01:05:07
Speaker
Hayden Young, I'm still not convinced on myself. I know a lot of people are and that's okay. I just think this competition down back at Freo and he's not going to be the main distributor, but could well be wrong as well. And the reality is if he goes to a 50% kick in guy, it's probably nine to 12 points upside already.
01:05:33
Speaker
or he stays at like 1% from last year and he doesn't go forward. Yeah, true. Just one more thing, maybe I'll throw this one to you, Louis. I do want to revisit just quickly the mid price kind of avoiding any of those kind of 400k. I just thought this year for me, looking at it, we seem to have a couple of like relatively obvious ones or I mean, I've been toying with it myself not going sort of going the statesman route, but
01:06:03
Speaker
What do you think? Let's just revisit that last time. Obviously not going any of the mid pricey guys like your Warpool and or sorry, or a Sheed, that sort of thing. I thought you were the biggest Sheed fan by the way, Stado. Just quietly, but anyway.
01:06:19
Speaker
Those are that sort of price range presents the greatest risk in terms of the salary spend that you use for them to take them on in your side. But at the same time, if it comes off, it arguably gives you the most upside to being able to pick these guys that massively outperform their price. So it's probably more of a guns and rookies type strategy that status got going on here.
01:06:43
Speaker
That being said, I think the last couple of years mid prices have sort of led the competition winners to sort of winning the highlights in the end too. But that being said, they are players that you can jump on very early if you can identify. But I can't knock someone for not having those 400K players because to be quite frank, the ones that I have in my side priced around there, probably the players that I'm most uncomfortable about. But at the same time, I'm
01:07:12
Speaker
I do understand that sometimes you do have to pick these guys and just take a punt on the upside that is there. Generally there's a reason for them being priced at that and that's either because they're on the way down or something's affected them to a point where they might be back on the way up.
01:07:29
Speaker
Well, I do appreciate you putting your balls on the line, Stado, and sharing your team with us. It's always interesting to do at this time of year. Subject to change, obviously, still a little while left before the season starts, but we do appreciate you sharing your team. And hopefully that's helped a lot of the listeners.
01:07:46
Speaker
You know, maybe they'll leave 600k in their bank too for the round two upgrades. But thanks very much. It's not for the round two. It's for the movement once we know what's going on. There's another primo landing in this team. I just don't know where it is because it'll be where it's needed. I don't believe you.
01:08:04
Speaker
All right. Anyway, thank you very much, Stado. And thanks to everyone for joining us on this episode. Hami, Holmesy, Louis, and the Statesman. I'm your boy, Dossy. Thanks for listening to another episode of Pod Pod. We'll see you next week, where we'll be doing the listener league draft as well as a few other things. But remember to get your listener league requests in. If Hami does get a few, maybe he gets a team. We'll see how it goes. Until then, we'll see you next week.