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NFL DFS Thanksgiving Day Slate & Week 12 Early Look
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Welcome to "The DFS Deli," your go-to podcast for slicing and dicing the NFL DFS main slate! Join us at the fantasy feast as we break down the juiciest plays and serve up a winning strategy for the Thanksgiving and Week 12 matchups.
In this episode, we're carving through the turkey day games and diving deep into the weekend slate, exploring the tastiest options for your DFS lineups. Our team of seasoned analysts will be your culinary guides, providing expert insights, player projections, and the secret sauce for constructing winning rosters.
Whether you're a DFS veteran or a rookie hungry for success, "The DFS Deli" has something on the menu for everyone. Grab a seat at our table as we craft the perfect lineup recipe for this Thanksgiving and Week 12 feast. Get ready to savor success and take home a heaping plate of DFS victory!
Tune in to "The DFS Deli" – where fantasy football and flavorful insights collide!
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Thanksgiving and Black Friday Football Excitement
00:00:00
Speaker
Ah, yes, week 12 Thanksgiving Black Friday games are upon us and we are here back in the DFS daily to break it all down for you. And I am personally excited about all the football all weekend. We got Thursday, Friday, big college football Saturday and the grossest main slate that I've seen in a very, very long time. But we're here to break it all down, of course.
00:00:28
Speaker
Welcome on into the deli, put up your favorite beverage, grab a chair and come on in.
Welcome Back Baker
00:00:50
Speaker
Welcome back to the DFS deli. I'm the proprietor of this delicatessen Sully Alicia Heath. And I'd like to welcome back my long standing friend, my colleague, my coworker, Baker.
00:01:05
Speaker
Baker, welcome back to the deli. You've been on the road, grinding the new job. It's a pleasure to have you back in town for Thanksgiving. I assume you're here to to visit and visit and hang out with some family. Am I assuming that correctly? You are, you are. But I'm gonna go meet up with actually chill Anthony Dijon. Go meet up with those guys in a little bit. I'm saying throw a few back. No invite. You have kids.
00:01:33
Speaker
No invite. You have kids. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Don't try to play me. I got it. No, y'all know I got kids, but I ain't get no invite. I didn't have the chance to turn y'all down. Like what?
00:01:48
Speaker
What is this? What is this? You over here meeting with my friends and family, but you don't even want to invite me? That's hurtful, dawg. You're using me to talk about DFS is what you're doing, and it hurts my feelings. I could have came out. I could have came out tonight. I could have found a sitter. I could have done something, but no, I don't want to invite y'all. All right. All right. Let's see how it is. See what had happened was
00:02:14
Speaker
Obviously, you know what me and Dajon got going on the side, so on and so forth. So before I hit the road, you know what I'm saying, grinding with this new job, he had mentioned that he had got on the on the Xboxes and was playing certain games with Ant Chill and those guys. And they had mentioned coming out where that because they play out, they play volleyball by him. So it's like, hey, come out and say you can come out this way. And he's like, well, fuck it. Instead of coming out all the way out on my side of town, he's like,
00:02:42
Speaker
I just go out there. I'm like, well, I still need to go to the house that him and I bought. So I'm like, well, if I'm out there, might as well. All right. Well, huh. Yeah. I mean, would you like for me to do a shot for you? I do a shot for you. I'll just spend the rest of the night alone with your kids, with your kids.
00:03:09
Speaker
who are in the other room. They are literally like 20 feet from me right now. I know, but my kids are sleeping. And again, I could have found a sitter, but nah, y'all don't want to invite me on over here. Sully's old. Sully has kids. Don't invite him anywhere. You want to hang out? Well, first of all, you are old. Second of all, you do have kids. I know. I was speaking the truth. Jerk. I'm just saying.
00:03:35
Speaker
That's fine. Well, regardless of what you guys are doing, I'm just gonna finish the rest of this bottle of wine and go to sleep, I guess, by myself in my tears. So it's fine. But man, it's good to have you back in the deli. Chili's been holding down the fort for us. You were doing the one on one, so it's nice. I mean, trust me, even though I ain't been here, I've been watching. You know what I'm saying? I'll still be seeing. But where can you watch?
00:04:02
Speaker
See, see, I don't even listen on the podcast no more. I just watch it on YouTube. Like I go to my YouTube, I go into the search bar and I type in D F S D E L I. And then, and then this show
Subscribe to DFS Deli YouTube
00:04:17
Speaker
pops up. So I hit the, I hit the subscribe button. So my phone tells me when these get uploaded. So then my phone tells me DFS show. Cool. Click.
00:04:28
Speaker
Excellent, excellent. So what you're telling the listeners is that you should go to the YouTube channel, hit the subscribe button on the DFS daily YouTube channel, hit the notification bell so you know when these episodes get uploaded. So you can ingest the tasteful menu that we have laid out for you for the week 12 slate. Is that what is that what mortgage board of information? Yeah, information or lack thereof.
00:04:54
Speaker
I mean, just because the Thanksgiving show does not mean we're going to spend 90% of this show talking about food. Absolutely. There will be food takes, because in case you don't know the premise of tonight's show is that we're going to look at the early look of the main slate. We're going to talk about the Thanksgiving slate, slap that and face just a little bit, and get some terrible takes out of the way for Thanksgiving.
Thanksgiving Culinary Debates
00:05:18
Speaker
Because again, I say it every year, and I'll say it again this year,
00:05:23
Speaker
Okay, hot take, it's not even a hot take, it's just a take, a truthful take. Turkey is the most overrated dish in the freaking Thanksgiving menu period. If Turkey was that damn good, why is it only one time a year you cook the shit? Why? Because it's trash. Yeah. Trash. Yeah.
00:05:53
Speaker
I mean, I'm not arguing it. I came around on that. Cause initially I think I fought you on it. And then I thought about it. I'm like, hold on, hold on. That actually sounds right. Cause no, I eat sliced Turkey or shaved Turkey sandwiches and things of that nature. Like I don't eat a real bird bird besides once a year. There you go. Cause it's trash.
00:06:12
Speaker
We all know, we all know that the chalk, the chalk, at least for our skin tone on Thanksgiving is that Mac and cheese, bro. It's definitely not Mac and cheese. It's that Mac and cheese, bro. You know what I'm saying? And all of you non
00:06:28
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ethnic listeners that don't have the macaroni and cheese at your Thanksgiving dinner, you're fucking everything up, okay? You're messing it up. So get yourself some macaroni and cheese, have your white daughter date a black man, okay? Invite him over for Thanksgiving and make sure he come through with that macaroni and cheese.
00:06:50
Speaker
I'll just say. I mean, it still cracks me up to this day. Our friend, our mutual friend, Nikki, asking Dijon to have his mom cook. Like, come on. That's how important it was when she realized like, yeah, mac and cheese needs to be at that Thanksgiving table. Period.
00:07:11
Speaker
I mean, like, again, we'll get to football here shortly. Skip the green bean casserole bullshit. That shit sucks. Skip all that. Get yourself some sweet potatoes, okay? Because you know mom's coming through with the sweet potatoes. With or without the marshmallow? With or without? It depends. Am I dating a white woman or not? See, it don't matter if I'm dating a white woman or not.
00:07:34
Speaker
The white people, I feel like they put the marshmallows on there. I feel like we sometimes put the marshmallows on there, too. But we might hook it up with a little bit of extra brown sugar or something. Brown sugar. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If it's an ethnic Thanksgiving, there ain't no marshmallows in that sweet potato. But you best believe we loading up with an extra cup.
00:07:57
Speaker
Absolutely. Absolutely. Like I've been to the ethnic, to the black Thanksgiving whip marshmallows in there, but there was extra brown sugar to go along with it. Eating a side dish for dessert.
00:08:14
Speaker
Basically sweet than a motherfucker Skip that pie shit. Just give me them sweet potatoes over there on the side. I'm good That's my dessert period. I mean as a kid, I would eat a message there. They would be that damn sweet. I'm like Okay before we get it we're gonna Thanksgiving the slate real quick
00:08:40
Speaker
Because basically, we're just going to break down about how we're approaching this slate. Not necessarily game by game, plays, blah, blah, blah. Because on a short slate, you have to play it differently. You can't just say, I'm going to take a couple of players from this game, this game, stack it this way, whatever. You've got to get unique. You've got to get different. Because everybody's going to be chalky. Just get it out of it. You're not going to find a 1% owned player that's going to break the slate, probably. And if you do find a 1% owned, that was probably a bad play that you may have just got lucky on.
00:09:08
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Exactly. Exactly. But before we break down tomorrow's games, real quick, I had a memory pop up on Facebook. And it was one of the truest words that I've ever spoken in my life. Okay, you ready for what popped up? Sure. Didn't even know you checked your Facebook. So yeah. Well, because I got to check the whirly ball groups every now and then. Ah,
00:09:30
Speaker
just keeping abreast on, you know, nationals and, you know, all the drama, if there is any. So I'll pop in every now and then. I literally posted, I think it was 11 years ago that I said that the dump after Thanksgiving dinner is the best dump you could ever take of the year. And it's not close. It's not close. Tell me I'm wrong. Tell me I'm wrong. Oh my see, see mine isn't after Thanksgiving dinner. Mine's the next day.
00:09:59
Speaker
Because the next day ones is rough
Thanksgiving Day Routines
00:10:01
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too, yeah. Because the Thanksgiving coma does not allow me to get that out same day.
00:10:11
Speaker
See, Baker, that's why you need to incorporate that mid-meal walk. You know what I'm saying? You gotta get your first plate down, then you gotta step outside, get that fresh air, walk like a quarter to a half a mile, come back, then your digestive system is ready to go. You hit that dump, probably at a friend or family's house, cuz everybody blowing up the bathroom anyway.
00:10:35
Speaker
So you might as well just get in where you fit in, knock that out and then get your second and third plate, fall into that coma on the couch with everybody else because that afternoon game sucks. And then wake up, get yourself some dessert. And then as soon as you get home to your place, that's when the real dub happens. See what I already know how my day is going to go tomorrow. My day is going to we're going we're going to my auntie's house. I'm saying I'm going to like I'm going to walk in the door drinking beer. Sure.
00:11:06
Speaker
Then at some point in time, like, cause they still be cooking when we walk in the door. So I'm gonna be, you know what I'm saying? About three fold beers deep, depending on what I choose to drink. Sure. Yeah. Then I'm going to eat. Then I'm going to have another beer and then another beer and then another beer. And then I'm going to have my second place. So like, like I'm just going to be full from beer and food. Like it's just like, that's, that's going to be my entire makeup tomorrow. Right.
00:11:35
Speaker
I get it. I get it. And I respect it. I respect it. That was me for years. But now I'm a loner. So it's I'm literally sitting in the house and you know the Chinese spot is open. So I'm going to be Chinese in front of the TV and watch the football. So that's that's me man. That's me. You know. Well if you want to if you want to roll through you're more than welcome. I'll be.
00:11:58
Speaker
Hey man, you know, I might have to take up on that, you know, sad, you know, me and auntie, you know, we all family here. We all family. So they introduce you to the other side of the Baker family. Yeah, man. Yeah. We might have to take you up on that. But, uh, speaking of which, you know, around that time, we're going to have our first game of the afternoon, which, uh, it looks like, what is
DFS Lineup Strategies for Thanksgiving
00:12:19
Speaker
it? It's Detroit first, correct? Yes, sir.
00:12:23
Speaker
This game, again, I want to kind of contextualize this slate as a whole before we get to the main slate is like, how are you personally going to approach your lineups when it comes to like the full slate? Because I'm breaking it down two different ways, right? So it's either I onslaught a team or a game and hope that's correct. And then hope the other two game bust.
00:12:48
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or I'm taking, cause we have three teams that are implied to score significantly more than their opponents. Okay. There's a beat down spot with a lot of injuries in green Bay. There's a beat down spot with not a lot of competition with the commanders and then
00:13:03
Speaker
I think the most competitive game is probably going to be Seattle and the 49ers. I agree. Seattle on the Seattle is in a must win situation after missing that field goal that cost them the game against the Rams last week. So in order to continue to push for that division, at least they have to beat the 49ers. Uh, Gino Smith is fighting an elbow injury right now and it's a late hammer. So it's like,
00:13:29
Speaker
Do you play it where you play some of the chalky pieces at 1230 or 430 when the Cowboys play? And then you know where to late swap, which a lot of people don't and won't do tomorrow. But you, the listener, you are a sharp BFS player. So you know to late swap, if you're four o'clock or 12 o'clock players fail, get CMC out of your lineup, get Brock Purdy out of your lineup.
00:13:53
Speaker
I mean, you got it. You got a swap. So I mean, you got to get Zach Chabonie. But yeah, I kind of want to get your opinion about how you're going after it because from, again, my perspective, I'm onslaughting a game.
00:14:21
Speaker
we're on starting a team and kind of picking pieces. So my lead is that I want to be as much in the Seattle game as possible and take like one or two pieces from like the earlier games and then wait for my PMR to hit. But again, that's me. How are you going about it? I kind of agree with that.
00:14:45
Speaker
Because one of the things that I've typically done in my past is I'll try to pick pieces out of every game. And then it's like, hold on one second.
00:15:18
Speaker
Hey, I actually got back before the finish of the Jeopardy thing. Sweet. That was really convenient. I did not plan that. That was really awkward, but it works.
00:15:29
Speaker
But yes, what I've done in the past and it's worked, but not worked because like there'll be, because there is, it tends to be, especially on these short slates. There's one game that you need that, that you need multiple pieces of and grabbing little bits and pieces and trying to stack every game. It tends not to work because not every game is going to have that perfect little mini that's going to get there for you. So, so going into tomorrow, I know my focus will be. All right.
00:16:00
Speaker
I'm saying, how do I want to stack this? Do I want to stack it on this side or that side? And what pieces, especially the 49ers, I think the 49ers pieces that you choose to play in that late window are going to be key because that's the hardest team to stack. And hell, we say that on mainslates too. Yep.
00:16:24
Speaker
Because there's no cheap piece. Cowboys, you can get into the Cowboys with Jake the Snake, who's not too bad. Brady Cooks, who's not too bad. You can get somebody's ancillary Detroit white receivers if you want to just get completely stupid with it. And you can get there with the, or even Jared Goff, who's not expensive. So you can get there in different ways. Everybody in San Francisco is expensive besides Brock Brady.
00:16:50
Speaker
So what San Francisco piece is, how you stack San Francisco, if you play San Francisco, I think that's going to be honestly one of the keys to winning tournament lines.
00:17:03
Speaker
Yeah, I kind of feel the same way. And again, on a short slate, you kind of got to tell yourself a story, right? So it's like in the early window, how does Detroit win the game? We saw their earlier matchup against the Packers earlier in the year when David Montgomery went absolutely berserk. So it's like his three touchdowns. But Jameer Gibbs is in the building now. So it's like, do you want to play that side? Because I think like Jameer Gibbs will be more expensive, or sorry, more owned.
00:17:31
Speaker
than David Montgomery, correct? But I think like a lot of people want to play those pieces that are, let's say, La Porta and the Sun God and all that, and are they running with other
00:17:44
Speaker
like runbacks in that game because the old narrative for DFS on Thanksgiving was everybody's sitting down drinking and they haven't quite had their first meal yet and they want to see their players play. So everybody in the 1230 window is going to be super owned and because everybody's tapered off towards the end of the day, which does happen.
00:18:03
Speaker
I don't think that's the case this year because the Cowboys are playing at 430. So, and you know, people want some Cowboys because Dak Prescott is probably going to be outside of CMC, the highest owned player on this slate. So you have to tell yourself a story. How does Detroit win? How does the Packers win? Okay. How, how does Washington win? How does, how does Dallas win? So again, the chalkier pieces, let's say in the Dallas game,
00:18:33
Speaker
Dakota and CD lamb. Tell yourself a story that the defense dominates and they don't need those guys. So you want to play other guys or you're telling yourself the other story that Dakota is going to dominate and those are the pieces you want. Then you take your CD lamb, your Dakota, your Jake, the snake, uh, um,
00:18:56
Speaker
what's his name, Cooks, to a lesser extent, and then look at the other game and say, well, how is Detroit gonna win? Because if you're saying that Dallas is winning through the air, you're hopefully telling yourself a story that the Lions are winning on the ground. Because once you put CD Lamb and the Sun God in the lineup, you can forget CMC, you can forget Brandon Ayuk, you can forget Deebo Sam, you can forget George Kittle.
00:19:26
Speaker
So that means you're telling yourself a story that Seattle and the 49ers are going to be a low total. And then Detroit is going to pass all over the yard and the Cowboys are going to pass over the yard and this game is going to bust. Or you're going to tell the opposite story. Like the Cowboys play like a sloppy game. Like they get against Carolina last week and a few people get there, but they don't actually get there.
00:19:50
Speaker
like Tony product was okay. CD lamb was okay. Dakota was okay. The Cowboys defense was the play out of that game last week. Absolutely. So are you telling yourself that story? Or are you telling yourself that Detroit is going to be the game where you want all their pass catchers? Excuse me, my God, I apologize.
00:20:16
Speaker
And they kind of playing it like that. And another thing that I'm actually doing is that I'm playing main slates, playing a couple main slate lineups, but I'm also playing showdown lineups. Are you really? For the hedge. Gross. So whoever's not in my main slate lineup is going in that showdown lineup. You see what I'm saying on every game.
00:20:39
Speaker
So if I'm leaving somebody out, at least they're hitting on another lineup. You know what I'm saying? And just double down, just double down. So you win all the monies or you lose all the monies. Come on, man. We got a hedge on Thanksgiving a little bit. Come on. Absolutely. Absolutely not. Absolutely not. I either want all the monies or I lose all the monies. Case in point. I had, I had so much divine a chain who got hurt last Sunday. So I lost all the monies.
00:21:06
Speaker
But if Devon A. Chain would have went like Denver Broncos, Devon A. Chain, I would have won all the monies. I want all the monies or I lose all the monies. There's no in between. I'm not hedging. I don't want to come out pushing. It's a short slate, Baker. Help me out here. I'm trying to teach these guys game theory. I'm trying to teach you my theory. Money. I want the money. I enjoyed your time off.
00:21:38
Speaker
Don't worry, I hit the road again on Saturday, so. I am back on the road on Saturday. So before we head to the main slate, give me your favorite play on Thanksgiving. I'll give you both. I'll give you two different type of plays. I'll give you my favorite pivot and I'll give you my favorite flat out play. I think the best play on the ONG slit.
00:22:09
Speaker
It has to be Sederian lamb. It has to be Sederian. I don't think I need analysis there. That's just the best play. And I think the best pivot is Tony Pollard. Okay. So same game. So play Dallas one way or the other. If you fade Dallas, best of luck to you.
00:22:29
Speaker
Like I'll, I'll put it that way. Like I'm saying prayer hands in the air for you. If that is, if you choose to fade Dallas, that is, that is one thing I was going to say concerning that slate is that, um, I would, I would care. I would make sure you get at least two Dallas pieces in. So tell yourself a story that either they went on the ground or through the air and the defense. So it's like take Pollard and the defense or take Dak and take CD.
00:23:00
Speaker
Don't you dare fade the Cowboys period. See, one of the interesting things that I was thinking about as we were actually talking here is say I made a lineup with Pollard in Ferguson with no deck. So Ferguson can catch one or two.
00:23:20
Speaker
But deck doesn't have to go off, and the rest can come from Pollard. So I still got my Dallas exposure with no deck. That was something interesting that I was thinking. And both of those guys are leveraging all the ownership on CD and deck. Like I said, I would take two. Take whatever two you want. I just want you to take two Cowboys in your lineups.
00:23:39
Speaker
I don't care how you do it. Do it in a funky way, like you said. If you want to avoid the Dak chalk and hope he just has like a pedestrian game, then that's fine. Don't use Dak. But like you said, I think CD is going to have a great game, but he's going to be highly owned, which is fine. I think Jake Snake could have a good game, but there are good tight ends on this slate. Like you got Laporta, you know what I'm saying? So there's, you got Kittle. There's other places to go. So that ownership might be spread out. And then at running back, obviously people are going to be decided between basically at the top CMC,
00:24:07
Speaker
And Tony Pollard, for the most part, because there's no Aaron Jones. He's out. And then you got no Ken Walker, the third. He's out. So people are going to stuff in Jack Chabonie. So it's like, how do you want to get different? Do you want to just eat the chalk and go CMC Pollard and Chabonie? I think Charbonnet ends up garnishing more ownership than CMC. Oh, he's cheap. Exactly. That's why. Which is why you should play my favorite play of the slate or my favorite play of the slate in large field, Baker.
00:24:38
Speaker
What, no offense? No, I sent you the screenshot earlier. What? Who is that guy? DJ Dallas? That's DJ Dallas? Why does he look so angry? He doesn't look angry. He just looks fucking frightening. He looks so angry.
00:24:56
Speaker
Hey listen, all I'm saying is that if you go into Sunday night and you still have Zach Chabonie and someone from the afternoon busted, just switch them to DJ Dallas, please, and give yourself a chance. I think that scares me the most about playing Zach Chabonie. There's not really much of a lead swap off him.
00:25:15
Speaker
Yeah, like I said, DJ Dallas, that's it. If he's in your flex, I would go JSN over that, but yeah, that's literally pretty much it. Again, you need to resurrect your lineup because if you're that dead, like if JSN is going to have ownership. Oh, absolutely. Believe that. So who else are you going to go to? Because you can't go to any San Francisco ride receivers because guess what? They don't throw anywhere else. They don't.
00:25:41
Speaker
Watch this be the random Juwan Jennings touchdown game. You're setting your whore mouth.
Main Slate Game Strategies
00:25:48
Speaker
Dude, the Sunday, the fucking Thanksgiving Millionaire Maker is going to have like Juwan Jennings and Ray Ray McCloud with their freaking Brock party sack. It is going to hit. Got me choking up like Snoop.
00:26:02
Speaker
Anyway, enough with this Thanksgiving crap. Let's slide over to the main slate. Obviously, you know, we're going to break down position by position, bitch, which is why we kind of stuff these shows together because there's only, what, two or three totals over 42 on the main slate. One, two, three, four. Oh, we got a fourth one in. I got Tampa Indy at 43 and a half. Gross. I have Arizona.
00:26:32
Speaker
Arizona LA at 44 and a half. I don't know. I'm just telling you what's in front of my face. Yo, listen, the easiest under in the freaking universe last week minus the Browns game was that Seahawks game.
00:26:48
Speaker
Ain't no way that total should have been 46. No freaking way. Both those teams are freaking sus. So it's like, nah, man, that was the easy. No, ain't no way in hell. I'm sorry. Ram's game is getting into the 40s. Stop the cap. It ain't going to happen. I'm sorry. This is a fifth game. I missed a game. Jacksonville, Houston is at 48 and a half. Yes, that's one of the two games.
00:27:13
Speaker
Buffalo Philly, that's at 48 and a half. Yep. And then Casey Vegas is at 43. Oh shit. I forgot freaking Casey's on the main slate. Oh, I mean, nobody's been talking about Taylor Swift. So how are you supposed to know? You're right. You're right. Kansas City looks like ass. I mean, for fuck's sake, they look like me in our backyard games of football when you know what I'm saying? The joke was I couldn't catch over my shoulder like God damn.
00:27:44
Speaker
I mean, are like the Chargers and Chiefs like clones of one another? Well, I mean, Keenan Allen's great. So I take that, but he dropped a wide open touchdown too. So I'll take it back. He's okay. But, uh, like they're, they're just like the same freaking team. Like God, we got to leverage Casey at four o'clock to this week, man. I'm not excited about that. I mean, there's only one play in my opinion from Casey. Like I'm not playing no pass catcher in that game.
00:28:12
Speaker
Oh, you're talking about Pacheco? The angriest runner in the history of the world. The memes on that guy just, they're lovely. I love it. I love Isaiah Pacheco memes. They crack me down low. They are quite funny. All right. Well, quarterback, I'm going to leave a lot of the talking at quarterback to you because guess what? My player has two people in it. Yeah. So sweet of you. Yeah. It has two people in it. Josh Allen and Jalen hurts.
00:28:40
Speaker
That's it. I'm not playing another quarterback this week. Screw everybody else. I mean, I get why. Cause I mean, it is the game. I mean, Eagles are a pass funnel for the most part too bad, you know, Patrick Mahomes couldn't really explain that, but at the same time his receivers can't catch, but Buffalo's can, uh, there's switched to their new offensive coordinator seems to
00:29:03
Speaker
A little spark, a little spark. I mean, this was a Jets defense that was shutting down checks, notes, everybody, including this same Bill's team first week of the season. So it's like Josh Allen scorched them. What is he about to do to Philly? And then obviously Jalen hurts on the opposite side, just passed.
00:29:23
Speaker
Cam Newton for, you know, on the rushing total for quarterbacks. So I mean, and we got, looks like angry AJ Brown again. And we saw last time he yelled at Jalen hurts how he went off. So, you know, the stacking partners are there, but at the same time, this game, if you're going to go that route is expensive. So it's like, how are you going to approach that game? Are you going to approach it with ancillary pieces with Josh Allen stacks? Are you going to do the same thing with Jalen hurts?
00:29:51
Speaker
Are you in a skinny sack, Jalen Hurts? Are you going to run him naked? Because if he gets the one, you're alive. We know what's happening. Guess what's about to happen. He's getting shoved. So, but yeah, like I said, my player plus two people in it for quarterbacks and that's it, bro. So, you know, you know my stance. I'm not getting cute.
00:30:13
Speaker
You know, you got Gardner Mitchell, cheap. I know you'll talk about him. You got Baker Mayfield against the pass funnel. And Andy, you can talk about him if you choose to. But again, I'm just going to stick with the highest total on the slate and just go with one of those two. Stroud's expensive now. And he should be. Yes, he should be. But again, these two quarterbacks minus Kyler are the only ones that can offer that rushing upside
00:30:41
Speaker
Like, do the damage with their legs, you know what I'm saying? And don't say Trevor Lawrence in his two rushing touchdowns last week. I was going to say Gardner Minshew with his legs, sir. Oh my god. Don't forget, the quote unquote number one defense in the NFL got carved up by one Gardner Minshew. Hey, f*** off with all that shit, man. I don't want to hear it, all right? But go ahead, Baker. Break down the quarterback position of who you are thinking about playing this week.
00:31:09
Speaker
Well, anybody who's been listening to the show for any amount of time understands my infinity and love for Gardner Menchu. So for those people, you don't need me to say anything. You can fast forward to me talking about somebody else. For the people who have not heard me talk about Gardner Menchu. Outside of the fact that Tampa is a pass phone.
00:31:27
Speaker
I understand that Buffalo Philly is the highest total, but the Colts are implied for the same amount of points as Buffalo. So if you're going to play Josh Allen, I understand Josh Allen's ceiling is, you know, whatever blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But if a lot of these points are thought to come from Josh Allen's right arm,
00:31:46
Speaker
We have not equal of a run defense, but a also very stifling run defense in Tampa. So there's no reason that if we're implying for them the same amount of points, those points are coming from Josh Allen's arm. There's a great chance these points are coming from Gardner Minshew's arm. And though there's no design runs for Gardner Minshew, he has shown time and time again that when he's on the run, he sees a lane, he's taking it. So he does have a out with his legs for a rushing touchdown, not much in the rushing yards perspective.
00:32:16
Speaker
And yeah, this Tampa game, this Tampa defense, it gets shown almost every week, essentially, that they can be susceptible to big play. So, and I just love Gardner Menchu, Gardner Menchu for president, as I just came from Washington, DC. If they should, they should put a freaking memorial right between Lincoln and Washington of Gardner Menchu. That's just my personal opinion. I'm just gonna throw it out there. I think CJ Stroud definitely has to be in play for me though.
00:32:45
Speaker
Just because of the exact same reasons that Josh Allen's in play for you, Gardner Mitchell's in play for me, this Jacksonville run defenses is quite stifling. And it's literally the same implied team total as the other two teams that I just talked about. He plays better at home. He has better stats in Houston. This game's in Houston.
00:33:05
Speaker
And it's essentially a pick him. It's a one and a half point spread. So I think that we obviously know the ceiling of CJ Stroud. He's no longer cheap, which makes me sad. But I think that he is definitely a quarterback that needs to be in consideration. And I am such a sad panda because it looks like their car after the bye week is going to play this week. And I was so looking forward to loading up James Winston this week. Hey, listen.
00:33:34
Speaker
Jamis would have made my player pool. There is no doubt about that. I think us as a DFS community want Jamis Winston at quarterback. He would have got so much ownership because of people like us that just want to see it happen. I just want one game. Just Derek Carr sit the fuck down. Just one game.
00:34:00
Speaker
One. Oh, Jamis. Give me one. Just give me one game. Michael Thomas, RIR, it would be Alave, Rashid Shaheen, and Jamis, and walk away. Because that would have been amazing. But no. Looks like Derek Carr was the clear concussion protocol. And this, that, the other. Blah, blah. No, please.
00:34:21
Speaker
For God's sake, one week, just one week of Jamis, please, please. And I know everybody in yearly football is who owns Chris Alave is just praying. Please, for the love of everything holy, let Jamis Winston play one week for Chris Alave. I 100% agree. Yeah, Baker, I don't disagree with any of your takes. I like that QB pool for sure. Again, you need to go to the expensive route.
00:34:48
Speaker
Um, the Josh Allen stacks, the Jalen hurt stacks are there, but like I said, it's very prohibitive to your lineups, but what you mentioned with, you know, guys that garden mentioned, you go garden, Mitch, you Pitman downs. You like, you have a cheap stack and you can get in those games. So. If you go to Josh Allen route, you probably are excluding yourself from other players because again, his pass catchers are expensive, but at the same time, again, these guys offer.
Quarterback Picks and Challenges
00:35:16
Speaker
You know, they offer upside with their legs. So you don't necessarily, even though I will do it, but you don't necessarily have to double stack them. You don't have to bring along digs. You don't have to bring along A.J. Brown. You don't have to bring along Slim Reaper, et cetera, et cetera. But, comma, in order to access that upside, you probably need at least one of them. And it's going to lock you out to some other players. Absolutely. I get your logic. I 100% get it. So.
00:35:45
Speaker
Are we safe to move on to the running back position? I mean, I think we're safe. I always feel weird, even though I'm not on Pat Mahomes, as I mentioned already. I always just feel weird when he's playing the Raiders, cuz I feel like he owns their soul. I mean, I feel like- That's the good thing about it though, is because Patrick Mahomes is Patrick Mahomes, there's going to be ownership on Patrick Mahomes.
00:36:12
Speaker
Now, if there was no ownership on Patrick Mahomes, then I would be on Patrick Mahomes. Right. Because you could give me an unowned Patrick Mahomes and say, versus the Raiders. And like, yeah, I'm not playing Patrick Mahomes. I had no ownership versus the Raiders. I mean, luckily he plays that forward. Because like, if let's say you're going in with Josh Allen or J and the Hurts and your one o'clock fail, you could probably supplant some of that ownership and go to Patrick Mahomes. And like, feel good about it. Or hear me out. You could swap to DTR.
00:36:50
Speaker
And Baker? Ain't no fucking way, boy. Boy ain't no way, boy. Boy ain't no way, boy. Boy ain't no way, boy. Ain't no fucking way, boy. So no, no, that's not going to happen, Baker. That's just not going to happen. OK, more logically, you could swap to Kyler. How about that?
00:37:13
Speaker
That's fair. But like I said, I mean, out of these elite guys, Patrick Mahone is probably gonna be the least owned. And I would feel better about, no, I can't play Josh Allen, I haven't played Patrick Mahone, so darn. Shoot. Heck I'll shoot. Rats, wow. At like a fraction of the ownership. No, what are we ever gonna do? No. But yeah, like I said, at least they play at four. But let's head over to running back. And I think probably,
00:37:39
Speaker
And again, you're probably gonna see my boner for this game, is that I'm playing DeAndre Swift. Gotta do it. The dude doesn't leave the field anymore. He's been good. Right, he's been good. Buffalo's pretty mid against the run. So the only time that the Jets scored last week was via Breeze Hall in the receiving game, but still a running back nonetheless. So yeah, my favorite play is probably still DeAndre Swift. But I mean, there's gonna be
00:38:10
Speaker
a lot of weird plays. Like you already mentioned, you already mentioned Pacheco. I love that against Vegas. I mean, he's definitely cheap enough to the point where you can stuff them in with some PMR at four o'clock. And what we were trying to do at the beginning of the year is attack Denver with running backs. Do you think a guy like drone for it gets enough volume to go into Denver to be playable? Question mark.
00:38:39
Speaker
It's actually funny to me, I was thinking about this as we were getting on, looking up who still ranks where as far as DBO, not DBOA, but defense first positions. And Denver still ranks giving up the most fantasy points to running backs, even though they've been a lot better the past month and a half. It's all just stemmed off of that Dolphins game.
00:39:01
Speaker
Right, right, I can't skew the door's back because of the dolphins. Because two running backs had 50. I gave him 100 points in one game. It's just skewed so freaking much.
00:39:17
Speaker
Facts. But as I look at it, one of my, well, one of my favorite runbacks in Gardener Michoud, besides Maya Evans, which I didn't really feel like I needed to talk about at Y receivers, but Maya Evans is a fantastic player in that game. It's also Rachachachachachachachachachacha white. How does he keep getting there?
00:39:38
Speaker
I don't know. I don't know, but at this point I'm going to stop asking. I understand, you know, you know, a lot of, a lot of times the thought processes team came off a by their, this, that, the other, well, the Colts still suck. Like that defense is still trash and he's still involved in so many different ways to the point where he's, he's, in my opinion, he has to be in play.
00:39:58
Speaker
The second team giving up the most points to the running back position is still Carolina. Now I understand that this game is gross and as an overall thing, but we get like, we get the big dog at a suppressed price with no ownership or not much ownership under 15% as we sit on a Wednesday night. Um,
00:40:23
Speaker
versus the team that gives us the most points to the running back position in a game that we know is not gonna get out of control. Like there's not gonna be many point score, so on and so forth. Would it shock any of us if Derek Henry had one of his vintage 150 and three type of games versus Carolina? It would not shock me whatsoever. Baker, as a Derek Henry, as a Derek Henry truther, hardcore fan, close to my heart. You know, I sleep with his jersey sometimes behind here.
00:40:54
Speaker
But the king is dead. I mean, I understand, but we've seen, I think, two or three spike weeks from your king. We've seen a few spike weeks from Chinchala. Yeah, yeah.
00:41:11
Speaker
You let Tony Pollard score, Carolina. I get where you're coming from. I get where you're coming from. I don't know if I have the testicular fortitude to click our king. And again, this is as a biased fan. I don't know if I have the testicular fortitude to click our king.
00:41:32
Speaker
So it's hard to see that the king is dead. But even in this juicy matchup at home versus one of the worst run defense on the planet. I don't know if I could do it. I mean, I think I think it's an interesting play. And I think it's something for at least I know for myself, I'm gonna have to work through throughout the course of the week.
00:41:55
Speaker
really seeing where ownership falls, because obviously my ownership, as I mentioned to you earlier, off air, is very skewed right now. Yes, yes, absolutely. Because to go along with the 71% Mike Evans that Mike Evans is telling me, it has DeAndre Hopkins at 213% owned. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it gets played two times in lineups, yeah, gotcha. Kyle Phillips at 49% owned.
00:42:27
Speaker
Okay, that's weird. You guys, I want to question you about Kyron Williams. Of course, we know how deplorable Arizona is against the run against everything. Yeah, pretty much against everything. We load up guys against Arizona.
00:42:43
Speaker
all day every day. Kyra Williams coming back off that injury. They cut Narrow Henderson so they must be confident in the health of Kyra and we saw he was just a touchdown machine for the most part when he was active and healthy. And then Saquon Barkley. I mean I think
00:43:01
Speaker
I think Tommy DeVito finally has figured out like I need to get the ball in his hands. You know, Tommy DeVito weirdos and he needs to get the ball in his hands. And we saw two receiving touchdowns from last week in New England. They don't even know who they're playing at quarterback.
00:43:15
Speaker
So I'm not saying the Giants are good. I'm just saying Saquon's kinda good. So he's in that tier at pricing when it's like, you know, your ETN tier and your Kyron tier, Saquon is right there. So I don't know if it's gonna be point chasing if people play him, but I don't know if it's just flat out a good play, like overall. So any love for Saquon or Kyron this week? Kyron, absolutely.
00:43:44
Speaker
I mean, hell, this, this, this is that same game earlier in the season is where Kyron got hurt on in garbage time. Um, after he, after he got us all there, he got hurt in garbage time, which was very sad.
00:43:57
Speaker
So, absolutely love Kyron. We're going to continue to do this for the next, we're in week 12, for the next six weeks. Sure. Arizona, running back, white receivers, anything, play it. So, there's no convincing of a guy who's going to be on the field 80% of the time and see 70 to 90%, or not close to 90% of the freaking running back touches. It's a no-brainer for me, on Kyron Williams. Saquon on the other side,
00:44:27
Speaker
I feel like the Patriots will have a better game plan than Washington did, because the Washington defense doesn't have a game plan more times than not. And, you know, Bill coming off his bye and all that fun stuff, I feel like Bill actually will make adjustments, at least to his defense, to have them ready for Tommy DeVito and Saquon Barkley. Bill has obviously been, you know, notorious about beating the hell out of rookie quarterbacks. So, I mean, it might be one of those games where Saquon gets 30 carries.
00:44:58
Speaker
But I don't see many scenarios where he's going to be in position to score. And I think that's gonna be the huge thing for him. The touches obviously will be there, but I don't think he's gonna be in position to score. So he's not that great of a play to me personally. Okay, so you're taking Kyrie in a vacuum, I get it. But I think I'm potentially interested in the running back on the other side of the ball. In that game, maybe. Gross.
00:45:25
Speaker
I mean, we saw before the buy, like Remondre kinda got back to that lead back role, seeing, you know, seeing elite pass, passing down usage and running the ball a lot better the past couple of weeks. He's fully healthy coming off of their buy. And we've been, hell, we've been targeting the Giants with running backs as well. So I don't see why, you know, Brian Robinson just had a great game versus these guys last week. I don't see why Remondre at 5,800 can't do the same thing.
00:45:54
Speaker
You know, I like the Ramadre play only because if I'm in like Peking and Bill Belichick's head, I'm trying to keep the ball out of my quarterback's hands as much as possible. Absolutely. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. You know what? You sold me. You sold me. I'm good. I will include a cheap Ramadre Stevenson. I'm with you. I like that.
00:46:19
Speaker
So I can convince you on Remindre Stevenson, but I can't convince you when you're king, something's wrong here. Again, it's only Wednesday, bro. It's only Wednesday. Things can change. Things can change. It's literally who's getting paired up with DeAndre Swift, because I'm playing DeAndre Swift in every lineup. Period. So what you're saying is it's going to be DeAndre Swift and Kyron Williams. It's going to be DeAndre Swift and Isaiah Pacheco. It's going to be DeAndre Swift and Rachacha Childwhite.
00:46:48
Speaker
You're building my lineup for me, bro. You're building it for me. I kind of like where this is going. So are we safe to move the Y receiver? We can slap that real quick.
00:47:00
Speaker
I mean, I think Travis Etienne is in play as well, but I mean, I don't feel he's the strongest play, but I definitely think he's in play. Yeah, absolutely. I 100% agree. Again, high total. You know what Etienne does. We saw that he got, he got sniped a couple of times, you know, by his own quarterback. So I get it. You know, it could definitely be a bounce back for Travis Iintini. Absolutely. There's a lot of big dogs on the slate at wide receiver. Steph, AJ, if we don't get Cooper cup, as you mentioned off air, Pukanakua probably becomes like,
00:47:29
Speaker
as close to a lock as you can get. If we don't have Cooper Cub lock in. I'm telling you that right now. There will be a lock button on. If Cooper Cub is out. I know. I know. Like I get. Yeah. Yes. Yes. I mean, yes, there's no analysis needed. I give zero. He could be 100% owned. I'm playing them. Facts.
00:47:52
Speaker
Um, you know, take Dell is obviously come on strong, you know, Nathaniel, if it wasn't for his own quarterback, he'd probably be in consideration alongside poop Nukem for offensive rookie of the year. Um, and then you got your receivers in that indie game on, you know, your, your.
00:48:11
Speaker
your Gardner Mitchell side with Michael Pittman Jr., even though I don't think he's gonna be played as much as probably he should, only because of his price. Both sides, he's priced up, probably got a little price, but because of the matchup, completely understand that. Who I really wanna ask you about is this elite tier that involves Jamar Chase. Change that quarterback, tough matchup.
00:48:37
Speaker
Can Jake Browning support a guy like Jamar Chase? Because I know this is more of a Saturday take, but no one's going to play Jamar Chase, bro. Absolutely not.
00:48:48
Speaker
Absolutely fucking not. So I guess my question to you is, would you consider Jamar Chase? It's such a sickening play, because it's never going to come in a stack. So do I want a one off Jamar Chase? And at that price tag of $83,000, I mean, he's more expensive than Puknukum. He's $7,000 cheaper than AJ Brown.
00:49:18
Speaker
He's 1100 more than the Slim Reaper. He's at a price point where it doesn't make it easy to play him. He's obviously a nice leverage off of ownership in that price range, but he's going to make you not play some better plays.
00:49:44
Speaker
I can't see like I feel like it feels a four if he was a four o'clock He would be a late swap. He'd be a swaption the probably one of the better late swabs on the slate Yeah, but like you said you you would be locked into Jamar Chase. That means you're locked out of Steph Diggs Puga, Nakua You know AJ Brown guys like that like they that's that's your elite spot being occupied by Jamar Chase
Player Performance Speculations
00:50:09
Speaker
Like you're sitting there at one o'clock hoping that he has an Arizona game again, you know, dropping 50. To ensure that you are going to stay well, the fuck ahead of everything that's about to come.
00:50:24
Speaker
That's a rough, that's a rough play, man. That's a rough play. It's an extremely rough play and just understanding that, that's like, like what's to come in that four o'clock window with some of those great plays and those heavy hitters to come. I can't, I can't see myself doing it. I know. I agree. And I don't want to
00:50:45
Speaker
I don't want to harp on it, but man, you want to talk about, but he's one of those guys that has the upside to compete with the elites, right? Because he is elite. Absolutely. So is it, are you going to arrow on the side of caution saying that like, listen, if I'm Jake Browning, I need to find one guy and that's Jamal Chase. If they got any type of chance to win this game in Pittsburgh and or against Pittsburgh and it's like,
00:51:15
Speaker
I don't trust anybody else. I mean, if I take anybody from Cincinnati, it's going to be Jamar Chase. If I'm taking Jamar Chase, I'm probably taking Jalen Warren with him because I don't want a one off Jamar Chase, right? Like if I feel like, okay, this game could probably go over the total. We all see what, and that's another guy we didn't mention in the running back section is that Jalen Warren.
00:51:33
Speaker
is the starter, even though he got less opportunities than Najee Harris on Sunday and had quadruple the amount of yards and touched down. But hey, Mack headed us fired. So hey, maybe there's hope. I don't know. So we'll see. But yeah, man, I think I'm just gonna try and stick with the elites and say,
00:51:58
Speaker
the Mike Evans tier, the Pukanakua, the Tankdell tier, those are my guys. And again, if we had Jamis Baker, Chris Olave would probably be a lock. Oh, dude, there'd be so much Ariard's. Ariard Olave, I mean, I would be wetting myself. Seriously. And Rashish, he gets a boost, obviously. Like, man, we could have had a cheap piece. We could have had some cheap piece to go along with these elites. But the Saints want to eff it up.
00:52:26
Speaker
Like Bear Card, just sit your punk ass down. Give the people what they want. Give the fantasy community what they want. Sit your ass down and let us experience James Winston. So Sally, do you remember the South Park movie? I'm guessing you do. Yeah, absolutely. So I saw a meme and oh my God, I was dying laughing. You remember the song Blame Canada?
00:53:02
Speaker
So I'm assuming it was a Mac Canada spin. Oh yeah. I was dying laughing. I'm like, no, they did not take South Park and just turned us into blame Canada, like Mac Canada. Man, South Park has been wreaking havoc on the cultural world lately. It's been great. I don't know if you're abreast of the news with that terrible ass The Marvels movie, but basically South Park like destroyed it before it even came out. It was amazing.
00:53:34
Speaker
South Park, why you gotta do that? Why can't you give them a chance? Why South Park always right? That's that's the that's the better question. You're not wrong. You're not wrong. Oh, man. Okay, so unrelated to fantasy. Um,
00:53:52
Speaker
I kind of put two and two together. I don't know if it's the actual two and two that I was looking for, but it kind of crossed my mind, I think like two weeks ago, about the Broncos and Russell Wilson and the Let's Ride thing, right?
Humorous Takes on NFL Culture
00:54:07
Speaker
So he's married to Sierra, right? Yes. What was one of her most popular songs? Write it. So did he get the catchphrase from Sierra?
00:54:24
Speaker
Like he, like, let's ride, let's ride it. It came from his wife. I'm just, is that, is that accurate? Is that where your brain goes randomly at times? Yes. Yes. We're talking about all this celebrity and bullshit like that with Taylor Swift and Travis Kosey and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I was like, whoa, Russell Wilson has a famous wife. And now he's got, you know, he's had this catchphrase for two years since he became a brocco. And I just thought it dawned on me. Like, let's ride.
00:54:54
Speaker
Right. His wife. See it. Oh my God. It's all connected, man. That's random. Oh my God. Something's so wrong with you. Your brain works in very weird ways. Well, that's one game I will not be playing the Broncos. There's two plays of that game and both are the defenses. Yep.
00:55:22
Speaker
Period. Period. Walk away. Walk the FOA. It's at 33 and a half, dude. We ain't getting cute here. We are not getting cute here. Right. I mean, Courtland Sutton continues to score like damn near every game. He scored in five straight games. Like, what the fuck's going on here? Again. Ride.
00:55:48
Speaker
That is one thing I will not be doing. Uh-uh. Uh-uh. That's not a swap shit. That's not a nothing. You couldn't pay me to play that shit. And it's so funny that they're in the four o'clock window with all these decent games, decent enough games. I got to sit here and watch both of my teams play at the same time. One of them gets the Eagles and the other gets the Broncos.
00:56:15
Speaker
It's like one exciting one. Why am I watching this? I mean, credit to the Broncos. They've been winning games. I mean, they beat the Chiefs. They beat another one of my teams. They're winning games. It's just in the ugliest fashion you could ever imagine. I'm not going to lie. Sunday night, I thought Josh Dobbs was going to find some magic and pull that one out. I thought he was.
00:56:41
Speaker
For a smidge, for a smidgen, for a smidgen of time. And personally, Baker, we should hate the Broncos right now. They beat your team last week. They beat my team the week before. They've got to be our other team this week. We should hate the Broncos.
00:57:02
Speaker
What a weird coincidence. Part of me was happy the Broncos lost because I got a text. This wasn't trying to throw shade, but it was just what it is. How the Vikings were undefeated. Students sent me a text saying, oh, the Vikings are undefeated without Justin Jefferson. And I'm like, OK. That's just a weird coincidence.
00:57:25
Speaker
It's like, are we digging into this, or are we just pointing out something that's completely oblivious? Don't magically get better by losing one of the best receivers in the NFL. It's like saying the Bills dominated the Jets last Sunday, and they didn't even need Steph Diggs. Do they need Steph Diggs? Yeah, take them off the team. See how good y'all are. Yeah, go ahead. It's not going to be fun. It's not going to be fun. It's not going to be fun.
00:57:54
Speaker
Um, real quick tight ends. I don't know why we need to do this, but let's do it. Um, because according to you and she'll work in coaching contractually obligated, but we're not. I mean, well, we're on the show together. So like, we don't have to talk about this at nauseam. It's just nice. So I, here's the fucked up part. Like as I started building Monday and Tuesday, I literally built and I'm like, there's not a single tight end. I give a flying fuck about.
00:58:19
Speaker
But Travis Koes, he's on the slate. Is Taylor Swift going to be in Vegas? I don't know. If the answer is no, trust me, social media will tell us before Sunday. Yes, yes, yes, yes. We will know, or we'll know. If T Swizzy is not in the building, I don't care about Travis Koes. Okay, so basically we need to talk about what, two people? Trey McBride, Evan Ingram.
00:58:48
Speaker
Dude, Evan Ingram is like, like I have heard, what was the set that I heard last week? Evan Ingram on the season has like, it was either three end zone targets or three red zone targets all season. It's end zone. Like the dude does not get targeted in the end zone at all. Like he's the most, he's the most negative EV play on the slate ever. That's probably the easiest fade for me of all time. I mean, my initial builds, I just kept putting Jono Smith in it.
00:59:18
Speaker
Dude, you're right. We do get Kyle Pitts and June Smith back. Oh, Lord, help us all. I mean, I don't want to play the backup tight end into Kyle Pitts. I want to play the starter in John Smith. Just a second. Why don't we just play the floor play and play Michael Mayer and call it a day, bro? I'm just saying.
00:59:43
Speaker
Yeah. Like this is a, like this now when it comes to tight ends, this is a, this tight in slate is piteous. I mean, you know who sucks against the tight end? Uh, the Eagles, the Broncos not playing David and Joku. No, we just got finished talking about how we're not playing that game. See if I can hit you with a curve ball. Absolutely not. Absolutely fucking not.
01:00:13
Speaker
Yeah, just just looking at the Titans on this late. I'm like, it's like it's literally like the only quote unquote good place. Kincaid. Chuck McBride. And Dr. Schultz, that's it. Yeah, I mean, and then I guess Travis Kelsey like he's just a good player, but yeah, he's just Travis Colsey. I mean, whatever. Yeah.
01:00:39
Speaker
I think at this point, I think at this point, Travis coast. He's probably just a late swap for me. Like literally swap only. Travis Kelsey is going to be like, I might lock him in with Pooka Nakula. If I hear Taylor Swift at the game. Cool. See that he's going to need some love man. After one of his crucial red zone fumbles last game. So I mean, yeah, maybe get some get back. If a T swizzes in the building, then yeah, lock in Travis. Kelsey. If not, then you're right. Fade him. Yep.
01:01:10
Speaker
And that's not, that's not DFS, you know, logic. It's, there's no stats back. I mean, there are stats back in that, but it's not like the Sims, the Sims that all y'all more person using right now does not have a little button that says is Taylor Swift in attendance. If you hit yes, you need to adjust the projections automatically and then it can simulate, but until technology is that advanced, no need to worry about it.
01:01:37
Speaker
Actually, since I'm on literally a site that's called Run the Sims, I'm going to see if there is a algorithm in here that applies for Taylor Swift. Give me one second. Hey, listen, man. As soon as simulation sites get the is my hot girlfriend in attendance, unless they start factoring that,
01:02:03
Speaker
The shower narrative needs to be factored in. The revenge narrative needs to be factored in. My coach just got fired. It's time to get fired up narrative until y'all can start putting those variables in the shit. I'm not doing any simulations. Forget all that. You know what? It's not in here, so I can't give you any type of numbers on
01:02:27
Speaker
on Travis in the Sims as far as the whole Taylor Swift thing. Please, if anybody that is doing simulation sites that listens or is subscribed to a simulation site like you are, email your provider of said simulation site.
01:02:45
Speaker
and make them add features that point out revenge games, point out narratives, point out girlfriends, point out firings of coaches, that is the shit. And especially come week 17, week 17 or 18 or whatever it is, I need highlights of contract incentives. I need all that shit. I need all of it. Every last bit of it.
01:03:11
Speaker
Cause it matters. I don't care what anybody says. Oh, narratives are the fuck they are. Narratives are real, bro. Period. Narratives exist and they factor in our BFS decisions. I don't care what anybody fucking says. Oh, I have so fucking lonely. Okay. Not a tight end is done. Thank the Lord. Uh, defense. Um, I mean, I love the chief's defense. I think that's one of my favorite defenses on the slate as of, as we sit here.
01:03:41
Speaker
They're so expensive Baker. There's no cheap ones though. That's the fucked up part. The cheapest defense is 2600. They put a strangle on defense this week. I know they have been like, I don't want to say sharper, but more aggressive, more aggressive. Like they're definitely never giving you another $2,000 defense ever.
01:04:12
Speaker
No, no. Wasn't, didn't we have one at 1800 one year? Yes, we did. The Jets defense against... God knows who, but it was the easiest play in the world. Oh God, 1800? Lock. I'll play that, and I don't give a fuck who... They could be playing Jesus Christ himself.
01:04:34
Speaker
I'm telling you, I agree. 100% agree. But yeah, you're right. Draftkings and FanDuel are just like, nah, fam, no cheapies. Uh-uh. We're going to make you play this position that none of y'all want to play anyway. The cheapest defense on FanDuel is at 3K, and it's the Raiders. And I'm not doing that. The fucked up part is the Raiders isn't even the cheapest defense on DK. I don't have DK pulled up who's the cheapest defense. The Texans.
01:05:04
Speaker
Yeah, the Texans are like right in front of the Raiders. I'd rather play the Texans. But yeah, I mean, I like the Chiefs at 31. The Patriots at 32. Once again, Bill Belichick in his rookie narrative. As we stated, the Browns or the Broncos either one have fun. Like I said, in that game, are they going to pass enough to warrant?
01:05:31
Speaker
like turnovers, sacks, pick sixes, stuff like that. I want teams that can, that will throw the ball and drop back. I don't want to shut out. Like 10 points is cool, but I said, I was not even occur in the NFL anymore. Like someone backs their way to three points at the end of the game. Um, I think I'm going to go back to an old philosophy of mine from, I think last year or two years ago, uh, I'm going to chase Kyler Murray with defenses.
01:06:01
Speaker
Dude, he runs into so many sacks from him trying to make these great plays, and that part of his game still hasn't changed, even coming off the injury. He's just going to do the little... Oh, fuck. So, watching parts of that game on Sunday before I explored the city of our nation's capital, I'm like, dude, he still does this shit. Sure does.
01:06:29
Speaker
I mean, Tommy DeVito got sacked nine times. And he has to go against the Patriots. So yeah, I'm with you. Patriots D. Patriots D stacked up with Ramon Dre. Isaiah Pacheco stacked up with the Chiefs because you know AOC is going to get his ass whooped. Yeah, pissed off Chiefs team after losing that game. Oh, man.
01:06:56
Speaker
Boy, AOC about to get destroyed. Yes, yes, yes. Yeah, they will make AOC look AFK real quick. It's about to get ugly for that young man. I'm not excited for what's about to happen with that. So yeah, like you said, man, there's no cheap ones. It's tough sledding out there. But yeah, I just want defense that go against quarterback so they're going to drop back a little bit. Absolutely. Yeah, I think we're in agreement with that.
01:07:26
Speaker
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01:07:53
Speaker
Slam the mashed potatoes. If you have it, make sure you get somebody in your family that has the macaroni and cheese. Because if you're not having macaroni and cheese, which Thanksgiving dinner, you're doing things wrong. You're doing it wrong. Period. Period. Sweet potatoes are a dessert, not a side dish. Or both. Don't forget that. Or both. Or both. Or both. Right? And make sure you got your Charmin extra soft coming to the party.
01:08:24
Speaker
Because if you're not hosting, you know the host has that cheap ass toilet paper, okay? You know they got it because they know multiple people are gonna be taking dumps inside their own home, okay? So you bring your own roll of Charmin Extra Soft tomorrow for Thanksgiving and don't forget it, okay? That shit is so expensive though. Let me tell you bro, it's worth it. It is so expensive. It's worth it.
01:08:54
Speaker
And sort of just pay a little extra. You should sell some Charmin, not just soft. Okay. Before we get out of here, of course, Baker, I need some bold. I need some bold for Thanksgiving and I need some bold for the main slate. I need it. I need it in my life. All right, let me bring up Thanksgiving real quick. Something bold for the giving of thanks.
01:09:26
Speaker
I got, I got something for you. I, so the Cowboys are going to smack Washington, right? Wait, sorry. I'm a little behind, but they going to smack them so bad that Cooper rush is going to score more fantasy points than Sam Hall. What did he say?
01:09:57
Speaker
That's an ass whipping. Wow. Cooper Rush over Sam Howe. Got it. Got it. Got it. Got it. Is that bold enough for you? Yeah, that's bold. That's bold. That's bold, bro. That's bold.
01:10:14
Speaker
Uh, main main, main slate for you. I mean, I'm about to go into the game in which I've talked about all evening. Obviously you guys know I'm locking in, uh, poop, poop, Nukem. He's your white receiver one. I'm not going bold with that though. Okay. So we're going to go six X he's going to six X his salary Gardner Minshew six as 30 plus.
01:10:45
Speaker
Okay, thank you so much. I I mean I want to have his children Fair thanksgiving hot take DJ Dallas outscores that carbon a Looks like I'm all
01:11:13
Speaker
And, and on the main slate, Josh Allen is QB one, no question. And you will need him to take down tournaments period. You will need Josh Allen, despite Gardner Minshew's 30 plus you will need Josh Allen. Dude. If I, if I, if Gardner Minshew drops 30 and I come in like second, third or fourth or some shit, because Josh Allen drops 40, I'm going to be so fucking heated. Well, is it two weeks ago?
01:11:41
Speaker
We had all our Stroud lineups looking all sexy, and then Dakota was like, hold on, you need me to win. Your lineups are nice, but here's 405 total touchdowns. That's just how I. What was it, three weeks ago when Stroud went off, and then I had Dakota, and then the week after that, I had Stroud, and then Dakota goes off. I'm like, man, fuck both of y'all. All right, I'm sick of both of you guys. You're both pissing me off.
01:12:11
Speaker
You're both redacted! But for Dale, who's out bowling? For Chill, who's out volleyball? Volleyball. And volleyball. Nature for the white devil? And volleyball. If y'all don't get that reference, you are uncultured. Uncultured swines.
01:12:34
Speaker
And of course for the returning Baker, this has been the DFS deli. Good luck on all your tournaments this week. Uh, tomorrow your shutout slates on Friday was weird. And of course the main slate on Sunday.