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Week 17 NFL DFS First Look 2023
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Step into The DFS Deli, where fantasy football meets a gourmet spread of DFS wisdom! In this special episode, we're not only dishing out the crème de la crème of NFL Week 17 GPP (Guaranteed Prize Pool) plays on the main slate but also rolling out the red carpet for our end-of-season awards ceremony. Join our expert hosts as they break down the finest picks at every position to help you craft a winning lineup, and stick around as we unveil our choices for the season's most prestigious honors.
From quarterbacks cooking up magic to running backs ready to sprint into the record books, and wide receivers set to dazzle one last time, we've prepared a banquet of top-tier selections for the final week of the regular season. Tight ends, too, get their moment in the spotlight as we reveal the hidden gems that could make all the difference.
But that's not all! Our hosts will also be handing out season awards, recognizing the players who've shone the brightest throughout the fantasy football campaign. Who's the MVP, the Rookie of the Year, and the Breakout Star? Tune in to find out!
Don't miss this grand finale! Subscribe now to The DFS Deli and join us for a double serving of DFS brilliance and season honors. It's time to savor the last tastes of success in 2023 and celebrate the players who've left an indelible mark on the season.
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Transcript
Welcome and Week 17 Introduction
00:00:00
Speaker
Welcome into what used to be the last week of the season, week 17. We are here at the end of best ball season. If you've made it to your championship, congratulations. Yearly, same thing. But if you're eliminated, sitting on the back burner like us, we're degenerates and we're ready to gamble on some week 17 games. So join us. Come on in, pull up a seat and grab your favorite adult beverage. It's the week 17 DFS deli. Let's get it.
NFL Week 17 Preview
00:00:45
Speaker
Welcome in to the DFS deli. I, of course, am the proprietor of this delicatessen Salioli Shahid coming to you live on a Wednesday night as we do it with the early look of the week 17 main slate. And of course, the obligatory, I can't believe it's already into the season take is here, but we're here. It is.
00:01:04
Speaker
one more week until the last week of the season. There's playoff implications abound, starting with tomorrow night's game. Uh, the jets and the Browns hometown Browns here, but, uh, we're going to break down the main slate for Sunday 13 game main slate and the NFL for some reason put 10 games at one o'clock and three at four. I still don't understand their logic behind that, but there are some decent games. Unlike last week, uh, this week,
00:01:32
Speaker
I'm ready to bounce back, chill. I'm ready to bounce back. Last week, as I was texting you nonstop, could not have gone any worse for me. First of all, okay, my yearly team got eliminated. My last best ball team got eliminated.
DFS Week 17 Transition to Yahoo
00:01:48
Speaker
I mean, for my best ball team, shout out to the Gus bus. He was trying to get me there. I finished second in my pod. I was right behind first place, but just couldn't
00:02:00
Speaker
Couldn't get one team through, man. It would have been nice to have a best ball team in the final. But we're here. As you know, FanDuel decided to shut down in the middle of the day. So there was no late swapping. There was no late slate, no four o'clock games. They just said, well, so I'm waiting on my refund from that. And I will continue to bark up that tree until you give it to me, FanDuel. So some of the takes this week are going to be from Yahoo, because that's where I'm taking my talents to this week.
00:02:29
Speaker
Sully in the DFS deli is playing his DFS slate for week 17 on Yahoo of all, of all sites. So you're going to get some weird, weird dollar amounts today. There's no doubt about that. But disclaimer.
00:02:44
Speaker
for all the listeners out there that are still being degenerates and gambling on the DFS slate this week, Yahoo always has overlay in their tournaments. It never fills. And this is one of the weeks where there's going to be a lot less volume from DFS players. So those contests that have like, I don't know, you know, a hundred thousand entries or whatnot, like your milli makers and stuff like that on draft Kings that are guaranteed to fill over on Yahoo.
00:03:09
Speaker
it ain't feeling. So if you're, you got a couple extra bucks laying around on Sunday, there's, there's still a couple items on Yahoo. You'll see your boy in the DFS deli there, but tonight chill. Welcome back week 17. How's everything going, man? Yeah, man. I mean, I didn't have a very good week 17. Uh, again, like I talked about off air. I made, um,
00:03:34
Speaker
You know the plays my secondary plays after my stacks really didn't do all too Well, which kind of just sunk my lineup. So Kind of this kind of a downer this week, but that happens. So You know get ready to take a look here at a very intriguing Slight slate of games here a ton of games in the one o'clock window three in the four o'clock window So it'll be an interesting an interesting slate
00:04:03
Speaker
Yeah. So, uh, before we get into the DFS side of things, I kind of want to talk to you about regularly, regular season side of things, because me and you had a brief five minute conversation off air before we started to record about, um, end of season awards, because these are things, futures you can gamble on
Season Surprises and Playoff Implications
00:04:19
Speaker
as well. So it still contributes to the degeneracy of gambling. So first of all, I kind of want to know like your biggest surprise from the season.
00:04:28
Speaker
And we can go through the end of year awards as well, just in case we want to throw a couple of hot 10s and 20s into the odds makers of those awards. So what has been your biggest surprise so far? I mean, I think the biggest surprise I think across from like a football sense is probably CJ Stroud, right?
00:04:49
Speaker
I think, I think would certainly be the biggest surprise. I mean, if we take a look at the divisions here, I mean, other than it's probably CJ shroud, and it's probably the bucks second, although they're only eight and seven, they're still leading their division, a division in which everybody kind of handpicked the saints to win like rather confidently.
00:05:11
Speaker
So I mean, like, if you take a look at like division winners, you got, you know, everybody, everybody knew about San Fran. Uh, we knew the NFC East was going to be a two-team race. Nobody even gave the Giants credit in going into the season. Um, so, uh, so we, we knew that you take a look at the ASC. I mean, the chiefs kind of faltering a little bit or being on a down year ish is probably a bit of a surprise as well.
00:05:38
Speaker
Um, you know, they're not getting the number one seed. So they may actually have to travel the second week of the playoffs. So, Oh, imagine that Patrick Mahomes playing on the road. Could you imagine? Oh my God. You know, unless of like Miami decides to lose and then Kansas city wins and they're playing a home game. So which could happen, which could happen. Um,
00:06:03
Speaker
You know, taking a look there at that, you know, a bigger developing story could be if the bills come back to win the AFC East. You know, they they're going to need some help from the Ravens this week. So that could be rather interesting. If that does happen, if the bills win and dolphins lose, that game will get flexed in the Sunday night football, I'm sure.
00:06:27
Speaker
Oh yeah, that that's going to be the game of week 18 without question. Yeah. So that game with this automatically get booted off the main slate into the Sunday night game. Um, so if the bills can pull it off that, that, that's a cool story. Uh, but yeah, I think, I think the, in terms of football itself, it's, uh, I mean, we're on the Mike Tomlin watch for being 500 or better.
00:06:51
Speaker
I mean, it's automatic chill. It's automatic. It doesn't matter if it's Kenny Pickett, Mason Rudolph, Mr. It doesn't, it's Mike Tomlin. It's what he does. Are they sitting at eight wins or seven wins? Do they need to win out? I think they need to win out. Okay. So we'll check that. So they got to beat Seattle and then potentially if Baltimore wins and Baltimore rest their players in week 18,
00:07:21
Speaker
they could get to, he could get to his nine wins. So he, cause he can't even go eight and eight no more. So, uh, luckily we don't have to worry about sit sitting players this week because every team for the most part still has something on the line. So there's no, there's no seeds locked up. There's no resting players. It is everything's everything's a go this week, except one person show the ride is ended. They couldn't risk the ride getting hurt.
00:07:50
Speaker
Yeah. The ride is in it, man. So let's, after all these years on the deli, when he came to, we came to Denver, it's been a great ride. Whatever team you play for next year, we wish you the best. Here's to you, Russ. Here's to you. I mean, speaking of that, how about just shot in the dark? Russell Wilson is a blank next year.
00:08:21
Speaker
Russell Wilson is a, ooh, Russell Wilson is a Raider next year. That's my hot take. My hot take, Russell Wilson is a Pittsburgh Steeler next year. Oh, that's a good one too. That's a good one. Listen, defensive coaches love veteran quarterbacks and we know Pittsburgh ain't changing their ways. You go Russ, Najee, Jarrod, Jalen Warren, he's got, you know,
00:08:51
Speaker
It makes sense. You get like Russ in that offense. Kind of makes a lot of sense. At that point, the move becomes like TE one. I mean, even the other kid I think would get used to that Washington Washington. Yeah, like listen, like he's he's he's still a little mobile so he can kind of hide the offensive line a little bit.
00:09:17
Speaker
you need a quarterback in this debate. Well, I mean, the Browns got Joe Flacco. So you need a serviceable quarterback in this division with that defense. So, uh, I think, man, I think Russ to the Steelers makes a ton of sense. It does. It does. So the people want to know because there's still futures bets to place chill before we get into the main
MVP and Player Awards Discussion
00:09:38
Speaker
slate. When they're building lineups this week, the people want to know they still have odds out there for, I mean, for multiple
00:09:46
Speaker
awards or whatnot, but we want to hit some of the key ones. Who's the MVP? Who's the comeback player of the year? And who's the defensive player of the year? Also the coach of the year. So, so hit me what your takes real quick. Who, who should we be placing money on for the remainder of the season? Those four categories. So, um, I think Lamar can wrap up MVP with a solid game against Miami this week.
00:10:11
Speaker
Um, it's a weird year for MVP. Uh, you know, it was a couple of weeks ago. It was Dak. Then it was Purdy. Now it's Lamar. If Lamar has a bad game and CMC has a really good game against the commies, I think it could go to CMC. My small, the small part of me says you bet Tyree kill and you pray to God. He goes for like two 50 and two 50.
00:10:40
Speaker
Cause like if they win the division, get the number one seed and he's over 2000 yards. Like that's like, obviously half a percent of happening, but, um, you know, waddle may be out this week. So, um, yeah. So I obviously the chalk is Lamar. If you place bets on Lamar a couple of weeks ago, you're dancing. Uh, and then your boy Josh Allen, I think he has a small sliver of hope.
00:11:09
Speaker
That's my pick. By the way, it's Josh Allen. If Josh Allen and his bills went out, the Miami dolphins lose this game on Sunday. And then the bills claim that AFC East title after coming back, he leaves the league and touchdowns. He's PFS number one, great at quarterback. He's still going to have all the stats that go along with being the MVP. So if they're like the two or three seed, and obviously he's the best player on that team,
00:11:32
Speaker
I would take, I would put my money, which I already have, by the way, disclaimer, I would put mine on Josh Allen. Yeah. I mean, that's, Aaron Rodgers kind of came out and said the same thing, but I mean, but then again, the bills need the Ravens to win. Like, and if, and if the Ravens are winning, Lamar's putting up numbers. So it kind of combats itself. I mean, the Ravens have won sloppy games.
00:12:00
Speaker
They don't need Lamar every game. The Bills need Josh Allen every game. With the exception of one, with the exception of the Cowboys game. That could have been Kyle Allen back there. And they still would have boat race the Cowboys. Minus that game. But I don't need, don't need Lamar.
00:12:20
Speaker
I agree. And I kind of agree with your, not kind of, but I do agree with your CMC take. Cause I was on my buddy Evan's podcast a few weeks ago. And I also said if there was an MVP outside candidate, it would be CMC. I mean, if he goes nuclear, which he's very capable of against the commies this week.
00:12:37
Speaker
he's obviously leading, he's right with Raheem Mostar for most touchdowns from an running back position. He's got the total yards. I mean, they have, they don't often give it to running backs, but CMC is in a position where he could definitely achieve that mark. So if these
00:12:54
Speaker
And these quarterbacks don't go nuclear if Josh Allen doesn't get that number one seed, et cetera, et cetera. Like a lot of things have to line up for a position player other than the quarterback to win the MVP. CMC is the most lined up to do it. And then behind him is Tyreke only because like he missed that week and that's going to really, really hurt him. But like if he goes nuclear the next two weeks,
00:13:16
Speaker
then yes, there's outside chance, outside chance. Right. Cause if, if, if Miami beats Baltimore in Baltimore and then they beat the bills, um, yeah, I mean, Miami would then be the number one seed. He would be over 2000 yards. I think that's pretty, that's pretty simple just to give it to the best player on the best team. Yeah. I mean, that's always the simple way to do it. So, uh, I'm back player of the year. Go.
00:13:45
Speaker
Don't say tomorrow. Hamlin, bro. You know, he's, he's less than Vegas says it's tomorrow. Hamlin. I'll give him what Vegas says do display five games. He's recorded two tackles. I get the story. I get it. The story is awesome. However, he's not good. I mean, we saw Alex Smith come back from having his lead go that way. And that makes sense.
00:14:05
Speaker
Like, and a lot of people that didn't qualify last year, like, so they had to give it to Gino because it's like, all right, he was a bum. Now he's good all of a sudden. So that makes sense. There wasn't any stories. Spoiler alert. Guess what? Your comeback player of the year next year is Aaron Rodgers. But I'm talking about this year. I got actually, I think I got somebody. I think I got somebody better for next year. It'd be Kirk cousins.
00:14:36
Speaker
Oh, the NFL loves Kirk Cousins, don't they? I mean, and he was putting up numbers this year. Like as much as I hate that man, he was top five quarterback. I get it. But Aaron Rodgers didn't play a game. I mean, he played a snap and it snapped. So I mean, but I mean, we'll, we'll see. Cause like, it's the jets. It's Aaron Rodgers. We'll see how that goes. Yeah. But mine is spoilers for next year. Who's winning it this year? Dude. It's the Marhan one as much as you don't want it to be.
00:15:07
Speaker
Okay. First of all, he's the favorite. So we want plus money around here. I mean, we want plus money. Like I kind of took a, I took, took a look vaguely. I mean, I wouldn't have been that far off from Vegas, but like I would have said flacko and then Baker Mayfield. Um, and then somehow like you got two on there. He's next. Yeah. Cause he was hurt a bunch last year. I mean, right. So
00:15:33
Speaker
If I'm picking and I'm not going the good story route, I'm picking Flacco over Baker Mayfield.
00:15:41
Speaker
I gotta go Baker Mayfield because it's sustainability. He's gonna be a division winner most likely after they beat the Saints on Sunday. He's putting up numbers that are better than Patrick Mahomes' numbers, who was the MVP front runner not but three weeks ago. So it's gotta be Baker Mayfield. If I'm placing ducats, again, spoiler alert, which I already have, I'm placing my money on Baker Mayfield. So I gotta go that route.
00:16:08
Speaker
was the other one, defensive player of the year. I think we were both kind of in a close consensus that it probably should be Miles Garrett. He's leading. He's leading right now. He's minus money. Okay. Well, if I, if I rose the argument for Damara Hamlin, we want positive money. So if it's not miles Garrett, who's it going to? Uh, easy, easy money would just be Michael Parsons.
00:16:36
Speaker
I think that's a good one. I think he's second and then you got Watt. I that's the only three people I could see winning it. I think technically every year you can give it to Aaron Donald for a guy who's for a guy who's triple teamed every year. He probably should get it. But now, man, it's Miles best player on arguably a top two defense, top three defense, however you want to look at it.
00:17:03
Speaker
He's a he's a game changer like there's there's only probably four guys in the National Football League and on the defensive side that are like legit can alter a game like We see that we saw the Browns defense kind of with Garrett out against the Rams. They looked horrible
00:17:21
Speaker
literally horrible. So like, and it's the same thing. It's no different than when Pittsburgh loses TJ Y. Sure. Sure. If you take Michael Parsons away from the Cowboys, I bet you they would look average at best. Hey, you know what the bills did to beat the shit out of the Cowboys. They took away Michael Parsons.
00:17:41
Speaker
Yeah. You want to know how you beat Michael Parsons. You literally run the football straight out of straight at his ass is run straight at him. That, I mean, that's, that was the dolphins recipe to that victory. They didn't have the, you know, amount of rushing yards that the bills did of course, but they were just like, listen, why am I going to drop back and pass and let this guy ruin this game when I could just run straight at him?
00:18:02
Speaker
That's ridiculous. So I mean, you know, again, we're not NFL head coach. Unrelated note, what killed that, like as the Dolphins fan, what killed the Cowboys in that game was Tyron Smith was out and like they couldn't stop Bradley Chubb. He lived in the Dallas backfield all day. That's fair. They literally couldn't stop him. If Dallas is O-line is healthy or if, you know, Tony Pollard or the fullback actually get into the end zone,
00:18:32
Speaker
Like, did you ever see the still picture of Tony Pollard? His entire body in the end zone, but not the ball. Well, it's just the fact that like they show you, it's like they show you like Tony Pollard getting the ball and like the caption is, is like he didn't score on display. Yeah. I saw that a bunch of times. Like why he cut back.
00:18:50
Speaker
to take a blow and got caught. Whereas he could just, I don't know, do what any other person does at the running back position and sprint towards the pylon. Like whatever, whatever. As much as I love my dolphins, it's, uh, the Cowboys lost that game. We didn't win it. They lost it. Well, my bills beat the shit out of the Cowboys. So, uh, yeah, that's a hundred percent true. I mean,
00:19:16
Speaker
Coach of the year before we get into the DFS slate, again, I think my bet would probably be, I wanna say Stefanski, but I think they're gonna take it away from him only because he just won it, like two years ago. So if not him, McVey, right? I would go McVey. If Houston makes the playoffs, it goes to D'Amico Ryans.
00:19:43
Speaker
that that's that that's easy. Everybody thought that team would be picking top two. Agreed. So McVeigh is my pick and then it would go D'Amico if they make the playoffs. Outside chance would probably be like, um,
00:20:07
Speaker
Like if Minnesota made the playoffs, I don't see how you did. Don't give it to Kevin O'Connell. I think you're making the playoffs, bro. I, again, I doubt it. I don't see it going to Pete Carroll. I mean, you want to talk about stories. Why not Dan Campbell? Dan Campbell is his title in 30 years, bro. It, listen, that one makes, I think it probably should go to Campbell. I think that'd be pretty cool. 30 years, bro. Detroit gets to celebrate. Wow.
00:20:35
Speaker
Good for them, man. Good. Good for the lions. Good. I was too good on the line. Yeah. Right. You know, literally too. Yeah. I was a hot eight years old. Last time the lions won a division. Wow. I am almost 40 now. Holy shit. I got cousins who weren't even alive. Yeah. I mean, but it's the same thing with the Browns because now they have the longest drought for division titles. So,
00:21:03
Speaker
I would like to see the Browns winner division title before my kids go to college. Not high school, just college. Hey, I'm just saying like, I know you're a Bills fan and a Browns fan. So it's like, it's like you need Baltimore to win, but you also need them to lose. I know. I'm in a terrible situation. A terrible situation.
00:21:29
Speaker
It's hard out here for, for NFL fans, man. It's hard. All right, man, let's get into it. The DFS slate 13 gamer, like we said, and we did have some, some value at the quarterback position. Of course, we're going to go position by position, break it down our favorite place, of course. And we're going to slap them real quick because we gave you some, some betting, some futures bets for the rest of the season.
DFS Week 17 Position Analysis
00:21:50
Speaker
Now we're going to hit you with the DFS side of it to build your week 17 lineups. Uh, Tyra Taylor has now replaced
00:21:56
Speaker
DeVito as the starter going against the Rams could be a high scoring affair. We never know. Like I said, I think the offense is a little more, I don't want to say balanced, but definitely more explosive now with Tara Taylor. Jacobi Brissett is now the starter in Washington for the commies. They get the 49ers. Every time that Jacobi Brissett's been on the field, he's led touchdown drives. So, I mean, there's that Jared Stidham gets to face the hapless
00:22:23
Speaker
hapless chargers after Russell Wilson's benching. So there's a lot of different places to go on the low end. And on the high end, of course, you got your Josh Allens and your Jalen Hurtsises of the world. Brock Purdy looking to bounce back. He's got a grade two stinger, apparently. But from early reports, he seems to be fine. We always want to target Washington's secondary. But if he's not a full go, and especially after that terrible performance he had last game out against the Ravens,
00:22:52
Speaker
Where are you going at the quarterback position this week? Yeah, I mean at the top end to me it's easily jail and hurts. I don't even think that's debatable. Philadelphia needs a game where they absolutely come out and beat the shit out of somebody. Excuse my language there, but like they need that going into the playoffs. Kyler Murray is expected to play.
00:23:14
Speaker
Who cares? He didn't. But with Kyler Murray, like at Philadelphia, the Philadelphia's defense is ass. So at least of Kyler's in there, that game will, that game won't get too on a hand. I don't think, cause like he can keep it close with them. At least, you know, keep it to within 10 to where like Jalen Hurts has to keep trying. Again, Philadelphia's defense is, it's poor. I mean, let's not even like, we watched Tyra come out and
00:23:43
Speaker
the Giants were in that game up until like the last five minutes. So like we saw the big play, you know, we saw the big play to Slayton, obviously. So I do like hurts going into the high end. I don't know how I feel about Josh Allen against the Patriots, because like it's such a I mean, it's in Buffalo, which helps. But man, it's such a weird matchup every time he plays New England. Like they lost. They lost the last time to New England. Yeah.
00:24:12
Speaker
it's so hard plus like Steph Diggs is this kind of just man he's been non-existent that guy like and I understand like the schemes and everything changed up it's just hard um when we needed him the most he disappeared yeah I mean like and now I'm kind of looking into his mid-tier um
00:24:31
Speaker
I'm gonna play black rock birdie because it just prints money on the main slate If you don't play it with CMC or if you do play it with CMC, it doesn't matter You're gonna want a 49er in your lineup. I think you probably should set that rule for yourself You're gonna want one like and then again, you know, like God's hands take the wheel from there and
00:24:54
Speaker
And then as we're kind of going down the list here two more guys I'll mention I both quarterbacks are in the same game, but Baker Mayfield and Derek Carr Baker Mayfield has been doing well They've been a little bit of a heater here that Saints defense isn't as great as what it is Obviously, we know Tampa Bay is the ultimate pass funnel Trevor Lawrence getting hurt But CJ bethard actually came in there and put up some numbers against them Derek Carr has been playing pretty well
00:25:24
Speaker
I think he does have like back to back over like 40 attempts like in the back like the past two games Obviously here he's coming off of a 28 point game against the Rams
00:25:36
Speaker
kind of a little bit of a hidden blow out there. Although the game was closed, so he was in catch-up mode. 20 points against the Giants. So some effort there. And then my two puke quarterbacks this week would be AOC. I understand that they completed one pass in the second half against the Chiefs. But this Colts defense, again, it's not very well. It's indoors. It's Indianapolis, I do believe.
00:26:06
Speaker
And then Jared stinnums playing dischargers defense We've seen stinnum come out before against good defenses and ball out Might be more of a draft Kings play there because he's really cheap. I haven't looked at his fan dual price, but Like I said for me for me the high-end is hurts That mid-tier, I'm kind of looking at car and Baker. I'll kind of make a determination from there And then but if I'm bottling out, it's probably AOC or stinnum
00:26:36
Speaker
Okay. Okay. I definitely like where that's going. Um, I'm kind of leaning one of two ways. So if I'm playing hurts, he's in a CMC lineup, right? If I'm playing the opposite way, like the, the, the party side, I'm playing DeAndre swift.
00:26:55
Speaker
It's one of the two because someone's going to tear up the Cardinals. Someone's going to tear up the commies. You got to have an Eagle and a 49er in a lineup. It's just, sorry. It's just the way the slate is going to break down on Sunday. It's one side or the other side. So don't enter any lineups without a 49er and an Eagle this Sunday. That's the caveat, right? So the, the, the, the tail of a New Orleans game,
00:27:22
Speaker
Everybody's going to flock to Derek Carr. And it grosses me out. I mean, like how much money chill you and I, you and I just as us have lost on Derek Carr. I have actually not played him a lot this year. So we learned our lesson chill because we learned after the years of doing this to one another. And I totally get it. But like,
00:27:47
Speaker
Man, Tampa Bay's pass defense is so bad. Play Baker Mayfield. Just play Baker Mayfield. Play the Tampa side. And again, Baker Mayfield, like the Tampa side, I think it's going to be great. Again, I don't know if Lattimore's in or out. Don't know how much he's out. Then you go and fire up some Mike Evans.
00:28:06
Speaker
Mike Evans every week, bro. Oh, and Richard white every week, bro. That's the five words of wisdom from the DFS deli. Simple as that.
00:28:21
Speaker
Or you can run some minis and we'll get to our receiver here in a little bit, but you can run some minis like some, some a lot of a Mike Evans, if you don't want to use either the quarterbacks or there's a lot of ways you can go. But I agree. I think some probably like minus like the Ravens and dolphins game, which again, because of the stakes that are on the line, it could be one of those play tight games. Just kind of like the dolphins Cowboys game that we just witnessed. No one got there except CD lamb.
00:28:49
Speaker
Like that was supposed to be the game. It was 49 and a half total. He got there. He got there on one play. Sure did. I mean, I think that, I think that Ravens game could be highly contested. And I don't think that regardless of how attractive Tyra Hill always is, uh, how attractive like Isaiah likely on the other side always is your league leader of touchdowns.
00:29:11
Speaker
next to CMC is in that game as well. But again, because of what's on the line, I think that that total is wrong. I would definitely go to the under. And I don't think there's because of the pricing, especially that's probably going to be a game I avoid, to be honest. So there's other places we can pick on. Again, there's domination spots in just what we mentioned. One place, the commies, the other place, the Cardinals. I would just load up with those two teams and be happy about it.
00:29:40
Speaker
So yeah, I'm going to keep it simple. I'm probably not going to touch Josh Allen this week only because I think it could be one of those. Yeah. The bill's one, but nothing came out of the game type deal. So I think it has an avoid for me. Um, but yeah, I'm kind of just targeting Baker, the hurt business or Brock party.
00:29:59
Speaker
That's probably the end of the list. Or, and if I, if I want to get really, really wild, yes, Jared Stidham, because the Chargers are sauce sauce on defense. We can get vintage Stidham. I don't know what vintage Stidham looks like, but you hope you hope it's when they played the Niners. That's what you hope. That's, that's what you hope.
00:30:30
Speaker
are you gonna run some uh Jared Stidham, Jerry Judy, Corbin, Sutton Stacks with me? Is Sutton gonna be playing? Good question. I guess because it might just be Judy and then I think- You're gonna run some Marvin Mims, Jerry Judy Stacks with me with Stidham? Bro, I'd be more inclined to run Mims if it was Russ. At least I know Russ will give him
00:30:53
Speaker
Yolo ball here and there. Well, as you know, Marvin Mims is going to fumble at some point. Maybe even twice on the same play. You never know. You never know. What about that? As I say, hey, how about Anthony hitting that, hitting that two leg parlay, huh? With Gisicki and the- What a bastard! $650.
00:31:19
Speaker
Anytime touchdowns between freaking Gisicki and Zeke, wow. That's how bad I was running. I got Anthony hitting parlays and I can't hit an Anthony. Shout out to Anthony. Seriously. You ready to head over to running back? I think running back, I don't think it's going to take too, too long. I mean, so CMC and Chuck Clyde Edwards Alaire, right? I mean, yeah, CMC.
00:31:49
Speaker
Rams guys kind of scare me because of the whole West Coast team playing it in the one o'clock window That's at all, but they are coming off of the mini-buy So like part of me well this maybe not as much on DraftKings, but on FanDuel Going from CMC who's at 11k to Kyron and I don't know Kyron's price I said I haven't pulled up but
00:32:17
Speaker
I mean like the top part you got that I think one player who becomes extremely interesting here is Probably Travis Etn. I don't know what his ownership is gonna be but like again Carolina is the run funnel the literal run funnel They do not let you pass. So Travis Etn comes a little bit intriguing you you mentioned Pacheco DeAndre swift to me on draft Kings is free at 6500
00:32:48
Speaker
I don't think he's priced up enough. He's $23 on Yahoo chill. Is that good? So to compare prices, CMC is $42.
00:33:02
Speaker
He's a fourth of your salary. Hyram Williams is 36. Travis Etn, the aforementioned is $26. And DeAndre Swift in a nut matchup is 23 bucks on Yahoo. So you load up some Travis Etn and DeAndre Swift, you literally have the price of CMC. That's nice. I think I'd rather do that. And just hope that I don't get 50 bombed by CMC on Sunday.
00:33:31
Speaker
I that that sounds intriguing. Um Two other guys i'll kind of mention here and then i'll kind of pass it on to you. Um I mean truthfully i'm not really interested in the miami guys. Uh again baltimore great defense. Um It's hard. I mean cmc did a pretty good job, but again two different teams. Um The the other two would be the raiders running backs like
00:33:59
Speaker
I think Zemir white would become the chalk if Josh Jacobs is ruled out. I don't think he's getting ruled out. But he was playing last week, so he should be back this week in theory, but it's Wednesday. So I mean, Josh Jake, I mean, with a team that definitely wants to run the ball, uh, on draft Kings, Josh, Jacob's a 6,200 going up against the Colts. That just seems really,
00:34:26
Speaker
Like, I guess more or less just finding guys to where like you can, you can kind of fade Zeke here and maybe be okay. If you play like Swift and Jacobs again, it's CMC gets 50 and then you're married and he, and he could, or, you know, Deebo can go for 40 and you're okay. Like, or the same thing or kiddo same thing. I mean, that's the tricky part about flame 49ers. Um,
00:34:55
Speaker
Givante Williams is kind of in a timeshare now. Like, I don't know how that looks. I mean, I get the timeshare with Givante, but at the same time, this matchup is kind of sexy. That and like, how much are they going to let Jared's to them, bro? Champagne, he might let them throw a lot just to prove a point. He's better than Russ. Oh, there's going to, there's going to be a shove it up Russ's ass game.
00:35:18
Speaker
It might be- Are we locking in Jared Stidham right now, Chilly? Well, hold on. He might want Stidham to throw more. That way he can go to management and be like, listen, Russ, don't fit.
00:35:34
Speaker
because no matter what Russ is getting cut at the end of this year, I guess regardless. So maybe that point's null and void, but I think Sean Payton is a vindictive motherfucker, man. I think Jared Stidham could drop 303 on this charger's defense because they're that bad. And like you said, there might be a point to prove. So we don't, we could have like the cheapest that you want to fit the CMCs of the world.
00:36:01
Speaker
Here's your pathway to do it. Just have yourself a Bronco stack with like no chargers bring back, of course. Like, don't, don't do that. Don't do that. No, don't do that. Don't do that. Just, just, just a cheap skinny Stidham stack with Jerry Judy or, or, uh, is, who's there? Who's there? Other Titan, the dude from the saints, the old one, a trout, a troutman, troutman. Yeah. Get some troutman. You'd be dancing. You load up CMC and Kyron and anybody you want. It's up to you.
00:36:31
Speaker
Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right back. Yeah. It gets to be a little bit of a weird place, you know, like Singletary kind of went back to a timeshare type of deal. Well, they were in their ass kicked the entire game last week. So they were. I'm not really interested in mixing against Kansas City. Never. You get Bijon.
00:37:01
Speaker
I mean, Bijon had a great game last week without the touchdown going up against the Bears in Chicago. Justin Fields is playing his new team, so that's entertaining. Oh, reckless speculation. I mean, I would be like if Chicago keeps them, I'd be very surprised on this unrelated note, but either here or there. Yeah, I mean, you mentioned Rashad White.
00:37:30
Speaker
He always gets there. The top guys are good. I think I'd rather play Kyron over CMC. Um, if you want to pick from one of the top guys, I get it. I might be just sticking in the mid tier this week. I think the mid tier is fun. I think the mid tier has great match ups and we got to deal with Clyde Edwards, a layer of chalk anyway. So might as well just go ahead and sling that in there and just move on. So, uh, I'm ready to jump over to receiver if you're ready. Yeah, that's cool.
00:37:59
Speaker
Sweet. So we mentioned a couple of plus match ups. Of course, the commies are on the slate. So anybody involving the commies can be played. And then Tampa, like you said, the past funnel that they are, if we get a healthy Alave, he's probably going to be one of the most popular receivers on the slate. Richie rice every week, bro, apparently, because
00:38:19
Speaker
He only has one person to throw to either their backups are getting hurt or that office just looks dusty in general. To me, I've been saying that for since week one, but here we are. So, but there are options, like you said at the top that we can get to if we want.
00:38:38
Speaker
to play the narrative that Tyree Hill has got that outside chance looking in at MVP. He's going to have to have back to back nuclear games. So if you want to ride that narrative and you feel like this is one of them.
00:38:54
Speaker
I go ahead and like load them up. Uh, any San Francisco receiver is on the table, either Deebo or Ayuk. And then we got Puka Nakua chasing records. He's, uh, only a few off, I think of 140 something, uh, away from the rookie record. So, you know, you got that narrative going for you. So.
00:39:13
Speaker
It's one of those things where like at the top you can pick and choose. And in the mids here and at the bottoms here, we might have some value open up as the week goes along because of a four midget injuries. Like you said, Courtland Sutton could be in or out. Jalen Waddle, same thing, high ankle sprain. So there's going to be a lot of variables that could fall into place as we could close it to Sunday. But variables aside, who are you looking at this week?
00:39:41
Speaker
Yeah, I mean, it kind of started up here at the top, you know, just taking a look here. I really like AJ Brown this week. Basically, any eagle is going to work this week. I think AJ Brown was kind of kind of bitching again.
00:40:01
Speaker
And we know the last time we complain, obviously those two are really good friends. They go way back. Even, you know, Devonta Smith, you know, like wasn't complaining, but like just saying that they haven't played a good game, even though like they won. So I think either one of the Eagles guys here is going to be really good. You mentioned the Rams guys. I guess if I have to pick, I'll probably, I'll probably pick in Pukka out of the two, kind of like the more
00:40:27
Speaker
Think puka is probably more boom bust at this point, but like I'll take the upside there Again, the Giants defense is not great So there Again, I ukur debo. I think make a ton of sense Deebo has an injury. So, you know just kind of monitor that One guy who I think it's gonna go overlooked here is Devonta Adams and
00:40:52
Speaker
Again, he like us. I think his name is Sneed for Kansas City is. Yeah, he's a really good corner. The Raiders obviously completed one pass in the second half, but they that's just how that game was. They got it done defensively and on the ground because Kansas City couldn't stop white. So like if you're going to give me like less than five percent to Bonta Adams against the questionable defense, I kind of want to take a shot on that.
00:41:21
Speaker
Uh, kind of might be like my gross take here. Um, you mentioned the Sates guys, uh, you know, Shaheed and Alave. Uh, again, I think that game has the sneaky shootout potential, you know, quote unquote. Oh yeah. I think I'm gonna be all over that game this weekend, man. I don't know what it is. Something about it. Something about it.
00:41:45
Speaker
One guy who I think becomes more intriguing now is Terry Maclaurin, because Jacobi Brissett loves himself some Terry Maclaurin. I don't like that. You can get F1 on the cheap. You know, we've mentioned Judy before. I do like Judy. He's a good salary relief there at $5,100. Again, Shaheed, especially on DK's, $4,600. Again, really cheap.
00:42:18
Speaker
And so it's kind of what I'm just looking at here why your stevers kind of interesting I think there's I think you have good value I Don't think I'm playing any of the I don't think I'm playing any of the Jags guys. I don't think I'm playing DJ more either You might get chased back but again like Kansas City's corner is super good and
00:42:46
Speaker
The, uh, the browning is starting to kind of show his true colors. So again, turn it back into a pumpkin. I get it. He's kind of turning back into the pumpkin. Um, is a flowers is Lamar Jackson's favorite target. He's going to get a ton of volume. Miami's defense has been playing very, very well, but their numbers are kind of blown out because they've played the jets twice.
00:43:11
Speaker
I understand that they did do well against the Cowboys, but CD lambs still got there Again, if the Cowboys have a healthy offensive line, I think see I think see the lamb cooks Ramsey and I'm a Ramsey guy but like again Dallas didn't have an offensive line to stop chub So like as much as I want to say Miami's defense has been like kind of elite here. It's kind of It's kind of smoky smoky at best
00:43:41
Speaker
So, you know, we'll see in the next two weeks when they play Lamar and Josh Allen how good their defense really is But again wide receiver it's a little bit interesting as of this week, there's not a ton of value Again, I'm just speaking from a draft king sense here, you know, we saw we saw some of that value absolutely Whiff last week Parker Washington
00:44:08
Speaker
If you want to sell me on Tralyn Burks, you can. Oh, no. Don't do that. You could sell me on Burks.
00:44:19
Speaker
Again, I would rather sell you on the giants guys because they get an upgraded quarterback, a guy that's willing to take shots downfield. We saw various slate. And even though they were trailing the entire game, he got a shot downfield, ended up with 18 PPR points. He probably might evolve into Tyron Taylor's favorite target at some point. So it's like one of these giants guys could be salary relief. They're going to be in a plus matchup because you know, the Rams are going to put up points. So.
00:44:46
Speaker
You want a little back and forth with a little salary saver. I would say if you're playing Puka, bring a Giants guy along. I mean, Saquon is always the automatic when it comes to, you know, backfill touches inside the red zone. But if we're talking outside the red zone, we're talking Darius, Clayton, Wanda, Robinson, Jalen Hyatt. They all have decent prices to the point where you could justify saying, if I'm playing a Ram, well, I can save some salary right over here. So Wanda looks like he's dealing with an injury here.
00:45:12
Speaker
Even better. But I think if I want to play a Giants guy, I feel like it's a Waller. He's talking about Darren Waller that missed two wide open touchdowns last week. Or in the one that Tyra Taylor overthrew him on or no, he under threw him on. Whatever. I mean, I could I think because when Tyra was in before it was he was still like throw, throw, throw the Waller what he basically
00:45:35
Speaker
Well, the fact of the matter is, we're talking about saving salary and Darren Waller is not going to save you that much compared to the other Giants receivers. I'm just throwing out the way to save a little bit of dough. If I got to pick a Giants guy, I'd just go boom bust with Slayton at 34. Yeah, and Darius picked the Slayton, baby. Yeah, because Wyatt didn't even get a target last week.
00:45:58
Speaker
Oh, and it's Darius Slayton on the DFS deli. He is deli endorsed Darius Slayton. Yeah, I'd roll with I'd roll with Slayton. Can I can I interest you in the the human dorch? No, you can't interest me in a single cardinal. That's not Trey McBride. No. OK. I would play dorch in a Philly onslaught because you'll need them to fit. All right. Last one.
00:46:28
Speaker
Again, he's going to fumble a couple of times. Not Mims. But if Sutton's not playing, Marvin Mims, question mark? Let me see what the update here with Sutton is, or kind of what they're saying. Just got to throw it out a couple salary savers. So Sutton's dealing with a concussion. Oh, yeah, he ain't playing. So I guess we'll see how that goes. Marvin Mims season. You know what? Yeah, you could sell me on Mims.
00:46:58
Speaker
They want to see what they got in the guy. I mean, he's probably the fastest guy on the damn field whenever he's out there. I just hold on to the damn ball. You want to go Stidham and Mims? You could sell me on it. Chill. Don't even double it. Don't even double them. You know what, Judy, along with it, you just want Mims Stidham. Yep.
00:47:20
Speaker
Because if he catches it like a 70-yard bomb or a 50-yard bomb, you need the rest of your lineup to do something. Because instead of that little bit of a Russian floor. That's what we like to hear, Chill. That's what we like to hear. The Russian floor. The Russian floor.
00:47:38
Speaker
All right. Uh, tight end should be pretty straightforward because it's all trash. Uh, training ride, obviously every week gets there. Isaiah likely, obviously coming on as one of the Mars favorite targets, got him on the slate. And again, one of those 49ers that we've mentioned, George Kittle, who had a great game last time they were out, uh, on this past, on this past game. Uh, it's just,
00:48:02
Speaker
We saw Dr. Schultz kind of get loose on the Browns a little bit. So there was a little bit of chemistry, but if we get Stroud back, it definitely elevates him. And then it's about it. I just want to say if Stroud comes back, I think you played Nico Collins. I mean, you could play them last week. You were okay. He got 11 points. You got a cheap touchdown to salvage. I'm just saying you would have been okay. He did. But
00:48:28
Speaker
I think Nico and the boys kind of become intriguing there. Yeah, but I mean, honestly, I think either life of your kiddo are probably the best tight end plays on the slate and McBride, of course. Yeah, I mean... It's gonna cost you, but I mean, they're still probably the best place. Man, for some reason, like, I'm gonna talk myself into Travis Kelsey, and I don't like Kelsey. You gotta talk yourself into Kyle Pitts again is what you're gonna do.
00:48:56
Speaker
Uh, I, if it fits, it fits. All right. All right. Just throwing it out there. Man, like I watched, uh, Hockinson have himself a good game against the same Bengals. Like I watched these Bengals get cooked by Mason Rudolph. They did. And like, obviously by Mason Rudolph and like, it don't, it don't get me wrong. Like I understand. I understand my homes and them are having a bad,
00:49:26
Speaker
Couple games here, but like Dude it's at Kansas City. I Understand the last game was at Kansas City, but like they got embarrassed. They got literally embarrassed by the Raiders And like it obviously burrows not playing but this is still like that like rivalry game, you know, I'm intrigued by Kelsey depending on what the rest of the lineup looks like
00:49:57
Speaker
I mean, we were talking about this New Orleans Tampa game. Another tight end in that game is obviously Kate Otten. I mean, he could bank you a touchdown randomly for no reason. Kate Otten is viable. You playing yourself some Jimmy Graham? The fuck did you just say to me? Are you playing Jimmy Graham? Absolutely not. He's almost got as many touchdowns as Travis Kelce.
00:50:23
Speaker
Facts, but he was catching this last game and I bet is anytime prop because I would have been for straight games and he didn't hit it. You get a target. So whatever if I'm playing a tight end, you know, it's weapon X. So yeah, weapon X is fine. I mean, Juwan Johnson is probably not a bad if you need filler. That's way too many Saints tight ends for one day. I can't bring myself to do it.
00:50:52
Speaker
I mean, one of them will probably get there. Like I said, I really, really liked this game environment between Tampa and New Orleans. So I mean, Chica Conquo finally went over the 10 point mark. Is Derek Henry his quarterback this week? Could be. We don't know. Cause I'm in. Get my, get my double stack. That's my stack right there. King Henry and chick.
00:51:20
Speaker
Yeah, man. I mean, to be honest, you know, an off topic for this particular position is that it's probably Derek Henry swan song, right? He's not going to be a Titan next year, right? There's zero way. Yeah, no, he's not coming back to Tennessee. He's going to go to a team. He'll go to a team that just, I think he'll be in a, in a timeshare next year. I don't think he'll be the guy. I don't think he'll be the guy. Like I said, the most sense for him would be like Dallas.
00:51:49
Speaker
Um, I think Philadelphia makes a ton of sense. If you go him and Swift, um, why I said I have the touch that I have the touch to Jalen hurts his
Derrick Henry's Future Speculation
00:51:59
Speaker
ass next year. Let me get into the big guy with dreads in the back of me to get these one yard touchdowns or they put Derek, Derek Henry behind center and they push him. The defensive line would say, you know what you scored.
00:52:17
Speaker
like score. Now, go ahead. It saves it saves Jalen hurts from getting hit. So they just put Derek Henry there and just push push him to and listen. He obviously take a snap. Yeah, I know. I agree. So I mean, other what else would make sense for Derek Henry? Just other than those are the two that jump off my head immediately. So officially, Buffalo.
00:52:48
Speaker
Oh, you know what? I think Houston makes a ton of sense as well. I think, I think Houston, Damien Pierce is young and they just signed single Terry. I don't know how long his deal is, but listen, piercing Pierce was returned a fucking kickoff. Again, he's young. He's young. That's the only thing he's got going for him. He's probably got like two years left on his rookie deal. He can get mentored. I get it. A hundred percent agree. Uh, let's hit defense real quick. Uh,
00:53:16
Speaker
Like I said, a lot of backup quarterbacks that we can attack this week. I think the Rams defense against Tyron makes sense. I mean, there's a lot of places we can go. Jacksonville always on the table. They're still getting turnovers at a high rate. And Bryce Young had one good game and it was last week.
00:53:38
Speaker
I don't think he goes into Jacksonville and he's going to be able to replicate something like that. So I don't think so. In Jacksonville has a good secondary and they do, they're up there for like league lead and turnovers. Like you have, you know, so again, they're kind of a pass funnel as well. They stopped the run really well. So I think, I think the Jags defense makes a ton of sense. Um,
00:54:07
Speaker
If you want to sell yourself on the Chargers or Broncos defense, I think that's fine. Oh, I'm sorry. Broncos, Broncos, Broncos. It sucks, dude. He might've tore up the bills a little bit, but he still sucks. Again, I think if you want to sell yourself on one of those, it's fine. I think it's very thin, but if you wanted to play the Patriots, I think that's thin. If you're trying to jam something in and you're not playing a bill, I think
00:54:38
Speaker
He's been playing well. So like two, again, I think it's thin, but I think if you want to play the Patriots defense, I think that's fine. See, that's all you need to come over here to Yahoo chill because the Patriots defense is $12 over here on Yahoo. You know, who else is $12? The Rams defense is $12. You know, who's $10 chill as you can get even cheaper than that at the men, the Jaguars defense.
00:55:07
Speaker
I'm sorry. There's 16. My bad. My bad. So the Rams, the Rams, definitely the Rams. My only problem with the Rams is like Tyron doesn't really turn over the ball. Yeah, but okay. Hear me out. And I'm not pulling a Dale on this one, but hear me out. When's the lifestyle of Tyron Taylor made it through a game healthy.
00:55:32
Speaker
I mean, we might see this before you just saying, just saying, I'm not wishing to injury upon anybody. Cause Lord knows the NFL has suffered enough injuries this year, especially at the quarterback position. But literally I can't remember the last time Tyron Taylor played full quarters of NFL football. He at least made it through two.
00:55:57
Speaker
That's positive. And then Aaron Donald eats them. I'm like, wait one is like, yeah, I'm fucking done. I'm done here. Um, well, chill, as always as customary. Well, for you, we need a bowl take me I need to ask you to make sure you hit that subscribe button if you're still degenerating degenerating with us. If you're still gambling on DFS,
00:56:22
Speaker
If you want to dabble on sites that you've never dabbled on before and join me on Yahoo, come on over. Week 17 slate is just fine. A lot of, a lot of avenues we could go across and it's going to be a fun one. I mean, it's going to be a fun slate. So, but before you get out of here, chill, give me something bold for this Sunday. What, what, what, what do the people need to invest in? All right. All right. Well, uh, well, uh,
00:56:49
Speaker
Let's see. Let's see what we can get into. So let's do so. I think this is bold. And this is this. I haven't been quite bold in a while. So let's just go. I think the Bonta, the Bonta Adams returns to form here. I could see like six to seven receptions. He gets the hundred yards. He gets a couple of touchdowns. So I think the Bonta Adams kind of reminds us that he's still relevant here. Oh, yeah. He's elite.
00:57:20
Speaker
And just to kind of correlate with that, maybe I'll just throw a nice hot 10 on his first time touchdown score. So, uh, 10 is hot. Yeah. I think, or maybe I should ask Anthony like, Hey, like, dude, like before you give me your bold take. So like, uh, obviously, so like when we got home from the bar, we went to my uncle's next door.
00:57:45
Speaker
Uh, to hang out with the rest of the family for Christmas. And like, we went over there relatively at the start of the halftime or started a second half for that game. And I'm like, I think his, his two Lake Parlay was, was, uh, Jovante and Gassicky. So I think that's what it was. He's like, yeah, I just named, uh, Gassicky to get into the box. Well, like I was checking on my phone and stuff during the game. I'm like, bro, he doesn't even have a reception yet.
00:58:11
Speaker
Like he doesn't even have a target. A target, right. And then like five minutes later, I look at my phone, I'm like, oh, OK, the Patriots scored. And I look, I just see Mike Isicki. I'm like, I'm like, no fucking way. I said, hey, Anthony. I'm like, Mike Isicki just scored a touchdown. He's like, what? He was like, we're in the middle of playing Uno. So like he goes over there and he looks at his phone and he's just like, oh, it's already in my account, 650 bucks. Like.
00:58:38
Speaker
I was like, good for you, bro. Merry Christmas. I'm like, now you see why we gamble? You see that? That's why we do it. That's why we do it. Shit like that. That's why we do it. That's why I do it. So yeah, so good for him. But yeah, I do like me some Devonta Adams to kind of come back out and come back to relevancy this week. So.
00:58:56
Speaker
I like it. I like it. My bowl take is really simple. I saw Aiden O'Connell have a career game against this terrible defense. So I'm going the same thing. Jared Stidham this week, baby. Load them up. It's happening this week. The FU game to Russell Wilson, 303 from Jared Stidham this week. Check it out. Check it out. This sounds good.
00:59:23
Speaker
But thank you, Chill, of course, for joining me early on a Wednesday night. And hopefully we'll see someone in the deli on Saturday to get you ready for the rest of the main slate. For Baker, who I'm sure is working, for Dale, who I'm sure is doing some random task at home. Got my man Chill here. I've been Salih Alishahid. We're gonna close up the shop for the night. And of course, we're gonna see you all at the top. Thank you all for listening.